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Ep. 136 - When the Fire Goes Out: Overcoming Apathy on the Sober Journey & Remembering 9/11. · Trudge Report

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SPEAKER_00: Ladies and gentlemen, good evening and welcome to another episode of Trudge Report.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, gentlemen, good evening.
0:42
SPEAKER_00: Happy recording Sunday.
0:44
SPEAKER_00: Happy recording first Sunday of NFL football season.
0:48
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna get into that.
0:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, but let's go ahead and my screen, the the Bexley Breakers up there in the top left.
0:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh the Bexley Breakers.
0:57
SPEAKER_00: Danny P, what's going on, buddy?
0:59
SPEAKER_02: Uh, what's up, man?
1:00
SPEAKER_02: We had a more normal week this week, so that was that was kind of nice.
1:04
SPEAKER_02: Um, my son had his uh first JV football game.
1:07
SPEAKER_02: He got a rec uh a recovery fumble and two tackles in the game.
1:13
SPEAKER_02: So that was pretty awesome.
1:14
SPEAKER_02: Uh I was planning to go out there to see it, but it was just too much traveling, man.
1:18
SPEAKER_02: I've been nonstop.
1:19
SPEAKER_02: I've been exhausted all week.
1:20
SPEAKER_02: I slept for like, I don't even know, like 12 hours the other night.
1:24
SPEAKER_02: Um everything else is uh pretty normal.
1:27
SPEAKER_02: Trying to get back into the workflow, man.
1:29
SPEAKER_02: Work is stacking up with all those days off I took and all that jazz.
1:32
SPEAKER_02: Um and just trying to get back into a little bit of normalcy.
1:35
SPEAKER_02: Gonna be doing a lot of traveling here in the next month or so, though.
1:38
SPEAKER_02: Back and forth in Connecticut and all that.
1:40
SPEAKER_02: Um we had a double header today, and uh, we won one and we lost one.
1:46
SPEAKER_02: But dude, it's uh cool moment like it with just Maya, man.
1:49
SPEAKER_02: It's just like you know, like she's got she's athletically athletically gifted.
1:53
SPEAKER_02: Whether it turns into anything or whatever, you know, I mean it's whatever.
1:56
SPEAKER_02: But like, I mean, she got up there and she bats lefty every now and then just because she wants just because she wants to.
2:03
SPEAKER_00: A little switch hitter, dude.
2:04
SPEAKER_02: And it it's John, John, it's so natural.
2:07
SPEAKER_02: Like literally, it's like wildly, it amazes me every time.
2:10
SPEAKER_02: She got up there and she hasn't done it since spring.
2:13
SPEAKER_02: Got up there and the girls pitching pretty quick.
2:15
SPEAKER_02: And both times she made contact, hard line her fall, and then a hard drive to second base.
2:20
SPEAKER_02: The the chick ended up catching it and stuff, but like, I don't know, it's just super cute.
2:24
SPEAKER_02: Like watching your kid, you know what I mean?
2:26
SPEAKER_02: Like that in that aspect, man.
2:27
SPEAKER_02: It was it was pretty, it was pretty badass, dude.
2:29
SPEAKER_00: It was crazy.
2:30
SPEAKER_00: Corey, you may not know how valuable being a switch hitter is, but it's valuable, yeah.
2:34
SPEAKER_00: Especially in softball, dude.
2:36
SPEAKER_02: The softball you turn into a slap hitter and all that stuff.
2:38
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's like I don't know, it's it's just pretty cool to watch, man, especially you know, when it's your own kid.
2:43
SPEAKER_02: But uh, yeah, she had a good game, and uh, I mean, pretty much everything else is around the same, man.
2:48
SPEAKER_02: Wait, like I said, returning to a lot of normalcy.
2:50
SPEAKER_02: Things got a little back to uh, you know what I mean, uh a happy place.
2:54
SPEAKER_02: So uh this week was good, and um yeah, happy to be back here with you guys.
2:58
SPEAKER_02: And let's go, Giants.
3:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, good stuff.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: Mr.
3:03
SPEAKER_00: GA Phillips doing good, man.
3:07
SPEAKER_01: I had a rough week, but weekend was cool.
3:10
SPEAKER_01: Um just a nice chill weekend, man.
3:13
SPEAKER_01: Um had a little date night, went out to uh went out to the movies, went out to dinner, and uh yeah, just locked in for football all week all uh day today.
3:23
SPEAKER_01: So that was that was nice.
3:24
SPEAKER_01: What movie did you say?
3:26
SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't saw the new insidious film.
3:31
SPEAKER_04: Don't say much, but how was it?
3:34
SPEAKER_01: It was alright.
3:34
SPEAKER_01: It wasn't bad.
3:35
SPEAKER_01: It it was uh there were there were a couple parts that was that were scary as shit, honestly.
3:41
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, um but yeah, nice nice uh kickoff to spooky season, uh for sure.
3:48
SPEAKER_01: I fucking love it.
3:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right around the corner.
3:51
SPEAKER_00: Yes, it is good stuff.
3:54
SPEAKER_04: Insidious, you know, dude.
3:55
SPEAKER_04: I so what tell me this was it better than the last one?
3:59
SPEAKER_04: Like the 2023 good.
4:02
SPEAKER_04: That's that's promising.
4:04
SPEAKER_04: All right, that one sucked.
4:06
SPEAKER_04: Really, it was terrible.
4:07
SPEAKER_01: It was terrible.
4:08
SPEAKER_01: Um, and that they acknowledge like part of that actually in in this one, but yeah, it's not that one.
4:16
SPEAKER_04: Did they make a joke about how bad it was and then look at the camera and break the fourth wall?
4:20
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's like a whole office episode basically.
4:23
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
4:25
SPEAKER_01: Good.
4:26
SPEAKER_01: I'm glad.
4:26
SPEAKER_01: I was gonna tell you.
4:28
SPEAKER_01: I will say this.
4:29
SPEAKER_01: Is you know, you know how like when you're a kid you used to build like couch forts?
4:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
4:34
SPEAKER_01: Yes, you know, and take all the when I was a kid.
4:37
SPEAKER_02: I just did one the other day.
4:38
SPEAKER_02: Maya's sleeping on one right now in her room.
4:40
SPEAKER_01: Dude, there is a scene that involves a couch for weekend that was absolutely terrifying and it was awesome.
4:46
SPEAKER_01: So I'll just say that.
4:49
SPEAKER_00: Dude, we used to have go ahead, Corey.
4:51
SPEAKER_00: Uh I was just saying that's that's good.
4:52
SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
4:53
SPEAKER_00: We used to have these sock wars, okay?
4:56
SPEAKER_00: So we would build couch forts, we'd build them on two side separate sides of the living room.
5:01
SPEAKER_00: And the house, um, the specific house I'm talking about in Virginia, we had a huge living room that like was it was connected by like a day room, you know, with like a sliding glass door out to we had a big house, and um we lived with it.
5:15
SPEAKER_00: Was my mom and me, and then her best friend and her daughter, who was like four or five years older than me, and I was young, but we would make two separate forts.
5:23
SPEAKER_00: And my mom, you know, in this we're talking like the 90s, right?
5:27
SPEAKER_00: So they were like the big scrunchy socks that like like they weren't quite knee highs, but you know what I'm talking about?
5:32
SPEAKER_00: They were they were thick, bro.
5:34
SPEAKER_00: They had some volume to them, and you could roll them up in a ball, and they were like this big, and dude, you could throw those suckers, and we would just have sock wars, bro, all the time and couch forts.
5:46
SPEAKER_00: Love it, great memories.
5:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, um I can't hit it.
5:52
SPEAKER_04: Dan, you sock wars and halfway.
5:54
SPEAKER_00: See, perfect, dude.
5:56
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, dude.
5:57
SPEAKER_00: I was like I was like six, but congratulations, Dan.
6:01
SPEAKER_02: I was looking at your face, Corey.
6:02
SPEAKER_02: I was gonna start dying.
6:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
6:07
SPEAKER_01: We're we're Dan's socks filled with quarters.
6:10
SPEAKER_00: And and lot bicycle locks, you know?
6:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, have you ever been hit with uh like a a bike lock in a sock or anything like that?
6:19
SPEAKER_01: I've done with quarters, yeah.
6:22
SPEAKER_00: I got I got hit with one at the skating rink of all places, yeah.
6:25
SPEAKER_02: Dude, there was a there was a gang fight on our high school on the roof, and they had pull balls and socks.
6:30
SPEAKER_02: On the roof?
6:31
SPEAKER_02: On the roof of the high school.
6:32
SPEAKER_02: That's the place.
6:34
SPEAKER_01: That's on the roof.
6:35
SPEAKER_01: You're taking it up a notch, dude.
6:36
SPEAKER_01: That was wild now.
6:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, wild.
6:39
SPEAKER_00: Nobody fell off of it.
6:40
SPEAKER_00: No, yeah.
6:42
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
6:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I got hit.
6:45
SPEAKER_00: I got boom.
6:47
SPEAKER_00: It it that it hit.
6:48
SPEAKER_00: It hurts.
6:50
SPEAKER_00: That shit hurts.
6:51
SPEAKER_00: Corey, how are you doing, buddy?
6:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
6:54
SPEAKER_00: Congratulations, one and oh, leading the division.
6:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
7:01
SPEAKER_04: I think all of America's a Giants fan right now.
7:04
SPEAKER_04: So that's cool.
7:05
SPEAKER_00: Agree.
7:06
SPEAKER_00: I think most of America, except for Dallas, hates Dallas, you know.
7:10
SPEAKER_00: So every yeah, that's the one thing we can all agree on.
7:12
SPEAKER_01: Well, and it's not it's it's on the eve of uh uh 9-11, so there's that too.
7:19
SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
7:21
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, I know I I thought about what how wait, what?
7:25
SPEAKER_04: It's not the Eve for sure.
7:26
SPEAKER_01: Not the Eve, yeah.
7:27
SPEAKER_01: That was the same.
7:30
SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's uh direct.
7:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I see what you're saying.
7:33
SPEAKER_01: The New York in New York.
7:35
SPEAKER_01: All right, yes, they did a whole like tribute before the game.
7:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, gotcha.
7:38
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, yeah.
7:39
SPEAKER_04: You know, I was thinking about how we didn't mention 9-11 at all last episode and came out a day before the 25th anniversary.
7:48
SPEAKER_04: But we did talk about it last year a little bit.
7:49
SPEAKER_04: We can mention it now.
7:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, okay, 9-11.
7:53
SPEAKER_04: Rosh Hashanah.
7:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
7:56
SPEAKER_04: No, but can you believe it's been 25 years?
7:58
SPEAKER_04: I mean, that's fucking crazy.
8:00
SPEAKER_04: No.
8:00
SPEAKER_00: Alright, real quick, Corey, where were you?
8:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's do that.
8:04
SPEAKER_04: Alright, I'll make it real fast.
8:06
SPEAKER_04: Kindergarten.
8:08
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god, bro.
8:10
SPEAKER_04: Jesus.
8:11
SPEAKER_04: I was in kindergarten.
8:13
SPEAKER_04: Oh man.
8:14
SPEAKER_04: I was taking your afternoon nap.
8:17
SPEAKER_04: Taking my nap.
8:18
SPEAKER_04: Eating your fucking carrot sticks.
8:20
SPEAKER_04: Somebody woke me the fuck up and said, Your brother's coming to get you.
8:24
SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah, my my older brother picked up me and my other brother.
8:28
SPEAKER_04: Because my mom.
8:29
SPEAKER_04: Actually, I just talked to my mom the other day and she goes, I don't know why I didn't come get you.
8:32
SPEAKER_04: Maybe I just wanted to sit in front of the TV.
8:34
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
8:35
SPEAKER_04: She like she like sent my brother to pick us up early.
8:38
SPEAKER_04: And uh Yeah, I I remember bits and pieces of it though.
8:42
SPEAKER_04: Um I remember bits and pieces of it.
8:45
SPEAKER_04: I I'll go ahead.
8:47
SPEAKER_04: Where were you guys?
8:48
SPEAKER_04: Fucking at your day job for 20 20 years in your careers.
8:52
SPEAKER_02: Where where were you, Dan?
8:53
SPEAKER_02: Uh I was cutting school.
8:55
SPEAKER_02: We were uh smoking weed and my friend Christmas.
8:57
SPEAKER_02: Getting high, baby.
8:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, smoking uh weed and my friend Christina.
9:01
SPEAKER_00: The world's coming to an end, man.
9:02
SPEAKER_00: We gotta get high now.
9:04
SPEAKER_02: Her stepdad came sprinting upstairs.
9:06
SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, do you guys see what's happening and stuff?
9:09
SPEAKER_02: And we're like, whoa, man.
9:11
SPEAKER_02: Oh chill out, bro.
9:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, cut.
9:16
SPEAKER_01: Uh I was in uh senior year, second period, Earth Dynamics.
9:23
SPEAKER_01: And the only thing that I remember about Earth Dynamics.
9:27
SPEAKER_00: Earth Dynamics?
9:28
SPEAKER_00: Yes, that was the class.
9:29
SPEAKER_00: Hey, that's that's a fake ass class if I've ever heard.
9:32
SPEAKER_01: I know, I know.
9:32
SPEAKER_01: Earth dynamics.
9:34
SPEAKER_01: That's like senior needs one more credit.
9:36
SPEAKER_04: They don't teach you, they don't teach you how to fucking do your taxes or nothing useful.
9:41
SPEAKER_01: No, no.
9:42
SPEAKER_01: Well, um, it was it was mostly like I think like a geology class, um, pretty much or whatever.
9:47
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, uh principal came like busting in the door, turned the TV on, you know, and uh yeah, crazy.
9:54
SPEAKER_00: I was uh thir uh 13 getting a cast taken off of my arm because a broken arm in the doctor's office, and same thing the nurse busted in the door, and and uh you'll get you'll love this, rolled a TV into the room.
10:08
SPEAKER_00: Remember the old roll-y ones they had in school with the big yeah, rolled a TV into the room and turned it on.
10:13
SPEAKER_00: And uh, I remember my getting home.
10:15
SPEAKER_00: My mom, I think my dad had taken me to the to the for whatever because I was home when I got it when he took me home.
10:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he did, because he took me home.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: My mom wouldn't let me go to soccer practice that night.
10:26
SPEAKER_00: I think my dad might have convinced him to let me, but um she was like, We can't leave the house, you know.
10:33
SPEAKER_01: So I tried to get out of work that night and get out of work, but I don't know if you guys remember, and Corey obviously wouldn't, but um, do you guys remember like everybody thought that the world was legit coming to the end?
10:45
SPEAKER_01: Like gas stations like were yeah absolutely packed.
10:49
SPEAKER_01: Like well, I I live like an hour and a half for gas.
10:53
SPEAKER_01: I I lived in an area.
10:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't remember that too much.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying it wasn't true, I just don't remember it.
10:58
SPEAKER_02: They I lived in an area where you could see the smoke, and the people my friends had parents that actually died in the uh you in Connecticut?
11:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
11:06
SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah.
11:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
11:07
SPEAKER_02: So you could literally over Long Island Sound, you could see it.
11:10
SPEAKER_00: I I had a my I think I've shared this on the podcast.
11:13
SPEAKER_00: I think I don't know, I might she I might get the FBI at my door for this, but my mom's cousin, my godmother, shout out to cousin.
11:22
SPEAKER_00: I won't even say her name because I'm legitimately not sure I can.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: She was she's she's quote retired now from the FBI.
11:30
SPEAKER_00: She was in uh counterterrorism and she was in the trade towers when they hit.
11:34
SPEAKER_00: She she luckily made it out, obviously, but she was there, she had to run out.
11:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, but she was she was the type of like family member where even growing up she had two cell phones, and like when one of those bad boys rang, not the other one, like she was gone.
11:49
SPEAKER_00: She was out and she couldn't talk about it.
11:51
SPEAKER_00: She's real deal um in the in the FBI, but yeah, it's wild.
11:57
SPEAKER_04: I um I came across a TikTok maybe two weeks ago that was like it it was the the point in the TikTok was like supposed to be telling us why uh this generation, meaning like my generation and the little older than me is so fucked up.
12:14
SPEAKER_04: And the they started out with you know, one of our earliest memories was a teacher rolling in a fucking TV to watch one of the greatest tragedies in history unfold.
12:24
SPEAKER_04: And I I never really thought about it, but um, yeah, why why why are there so many people that were in like third, fourth grade at the time was like, yeah, our teacher just kind of turned the TV on and we just watched that bad boy happen.
12:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like a third grader maybe shouldn't watch it, yeah.
12:38
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like what the fuck?
12:39
SPEAKER_04: I mean, you guys were a little older, but like yeah, I mean I went home and watched it to some degree.
12:44
SPEAKER_04: I don't really remember the images on the TV necessarily.
12:47
SPEAKER_01: Honestly, so we hadn't had anything like that scale happen in this country since Pearl Harbor, you know, and um and I think well, I don't think I know for a fact, like the the majority of the American public just thought the first one was just an accident.
13:06
SPEAKER_01: Yep, like somehow that was some kind of crazy accident that happened, yeah, yeah, and then we all watched the second one hit live, and it was like obviously on purpose.
13:17
SPEAKER_00: Not to take us on a real deep rabbit hole, but do you do you guys you guys I'm sure you guys have like looked into the conspiracy theories about them and stuff and heard some of them?
13:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
13:27
SPEAKER_04: I mean to some degree, it's there's some wild ones.
13:30
SPEAKER_04: I feel like it's uh conspiracy theories are sometimes just too easy, you know.
13:34
SPEAKER_00: Just like yeah, I don't I don't know.
13:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't get myself too wrapped up into that stuff, but did uh did any of you guys that's uh speaking of like rolling TVs into third graders and stuff like that.
13:43
SPEAKER_02: I remember in middle school they announced the verdict of the OJ trial on the loudspeaker.
13:49
SPEAKER_02: Really?
13:50
SPEAKER_02: That's wild if you think about it.
13:52
SPEAKER_01: It is, but dude, like do you remember when that was going on?
13:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like that that was the only thing on television for for months.
14:01
SPEAKER_02: It's so wild if you think about it now.
14:03
SPEAKER_02: People would go nuts if that happened.
14:07
SPEAKER_04: Nothing happens like that these days, I don't think.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: Well, it can't because of exactly what we're doing right now.
14:13
SPEAKER_00: The the internet everything is so immediate, you know.
14:16
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, right.
14:17
SPEAKER_04: That's true.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: So you know, we get a ding on our phone about it.
14:22
SPEAKER_04: Sean, was there an like an age for like Sophia, like where she started understanding a little bit about what 9-11 was?
14:29
SPEAKER_04: Do you do you know like that?
14:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she she uh third grade, third grade, actually.
14:35
SPEAKER_00: I remember her coming home and like to a very basic level understanding what happened.
14:40
SPEAKER_00: Um here's you know what?
14:42
SPEAKER_00: Here's some shit.
14:43
SPEAKER_00: And I don't man, maybe maybe I shouldn't say this stuff, but she one of her friends that she's literally known since kindergarten and been in in the same school since kindergarten, and they're now in fifth grade.
14:54
SPEAKER_00: Um her mom's getting deported, which means like her and her sister have to leave too.
15:01
SPEAKER_00: And it's like, tell you what, it's a little different when it's like down the street from you in a family you've known for the last six years, you know, and your kids hang out and are like super close.
15:13
SPEAKER_00: It kind of fucking sucks, actually.
15:15
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think no matter what you can sum that up as an unfortunate situation.
15:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
15:20
SPEAKER_00: That's it's a tough one.
15:22
SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's it's easy to have viewpoints and like certain beliefs on it when it's like happening, you know, over there and to them.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, right.
15:31
SPEAKER_04: Well that you know, and we we're not you know, not to dive down that hole, but I will I I think it's worth saying, like, like you just said, like it's easy to have that, like that's where most of the people that are so like violently opinionated on social media and stuff, like that's exactly it's not happening next door.
15:50
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know what I mean, or like whatever it is to them, it's not, yeah, yeah, yeah.
15:54
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
15:55
SPEAKER_02: And I think us uh us normal people, uh we all have that commonality of like we're not worried about people like that, you know what I mean?
16:03
SPEAKER_02: Like, we're all about our viewpoint of like if you want to deport people that are you know what I mean, whatever just violent criminals, yeah.
16:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, not even violent criminals, just people that are you know a debt to society, you know what I mean?
16:14
SPEAKER_02: Like they're just not contributing in any way, shape, or form, which is easily provable, you know what I mean?
16:19
SPEAKER_02: But Ronaldo Ronaldo the drywaller, he's probably fine.
16:22
SPEAKER_02: We could probably leave him in here.
16:24
SPEAKER_02: So he could work at his job, too.
16:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I you know, I don't want to pay top dollar for that.
16:29
SPEAKER_02: Let's go, man.
16:29
SPEAKER_02: Come on.
16:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:32
SPEAKER_04: Um, but no, but I asked about I asked about that because the kids like have been somewhat introduced to it just from just stuff.
16:41
SPEAKER_04: We had some stuff on the TV here and there, nothing too graphic, of course.
16:44
SPEAKER_00: But I will say, I'll say I think Grace learned about it as well this year, at least a little bit in second grade.
16:49
SPEAKER_00: But I will say that from what I know and from like Sophia's last few years, they have the her school, her teachers have done a really good job of educating them on what happened and and real, but also truly like making it a point to to and I want to navigate this carefully, but like, you know, people of of Middle Eastern descent are not all bad people, you know what I mean?
17:12
SPEAKER_00: Like they've really done a good job.
17:13
SPEAKER_00: I think I think so.
17:14
SPEAKER_00: They've done a good job from what I've what I've heard and talk to some of the teachers about you know making that very clear to all the students, you know, that it wasn't it wasn't you know, quote, those people, it was like a few bad apples, you know what I mean?
17:27
SPEAKER_00: Like that kind of theory.
17:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well let me tell you.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
17:30
SPEAKER_02: You can do it within any race, man.
17:32
SPEAKER_02: You know, white people shoot up buildings, you know, like you can do it any anyway.
17:37
SPEAKER_02: Timothy McVeigh.
17:38
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
17:38
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, like you can do it.
17:39
SPEAKER_02: It's all like with the narrative you want to fit, you can make it.
17:42
SPEAKER_00: Corey Mitchner.
17:43
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you remember that that crazy bastard.
17:45
SPEAKER_02: The worst Eagles fan ever.
17:48
SPEAKER_04: Uh if I'm plotting, it's only against you three.
17:50
SPEAKER_04: So and AJ Brown.
17:52
SPEAKER_04: I can think of a few more.
17:53
SPEAKER_04: Fuck him, by the way, but I I did I was sad to see that AJ Brown went down with an injury.
17:58
SPEAKER_04: We'll talk about shit later.
17:59
SPEAKER_04: But I just want to say that just so you guys know, to a five-year-old, to a five-year-old boy named Noah, 9-11 is not that serious of a topic.
18:11
SPEAKER_04: And I had to put myself in his shoes for a moment and realize that he builds towers all the fucking time with Legos.
18:18
SPEAKER_04: It is not a serious topic.
18:24
SPEAKER_04: Pretty sure.
18:24
SPEAKER_01: Uh go ahead.
18:26
SPEAKER_04: Well, I just like we we actually, and I'm and I'm making light of it, but like we actually I won't I won't get into the specifics because of the sensitivity of the topic.
18:36
SPEAKER_04: But we totally sat him down and was like, listen, I think you need to understand a little bit more of what you're talking about here.
18:44
SPEAKER_01: Or just don't you can't say that stuff at school.
18:46
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's you want to do it at home in your room, Noah?
18:49
SPEAKER_04: Fine, but because towers falling is funny to him, and you know, it's like, hey, so this is what happened a little bit, Noah.
18:58
SPEAKER_04: It was a sad time, and explained it seemed to understand as much as he needed to, so that was good.
19:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
19:04
SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm pretty sure how it went was Peyton came home from school the other day and he was like educating his mom as as he does on these things, and it's uh well, first uh first a plane hit one tower and then it hit a second tower, and then I don't know, somewhere else it hit a trapezoid.
19:24
SPEAKER_01: Trapezoid, that's amazing, guys.
19:29
SPEAKER_01: Fucking rhombus, yeah.
19:31
SPEAKER_01: Fucking rhombus.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
19:33
SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
19:34
SPEAKER_00: That's funny.
19:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, hey, listen.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: R.I.P.
19:38
SPEAKER_00: man.
19:40
SPEAKER_04: You know one thing, one thing that I'm just thinking of?
19:43
SPEAKER_04: We I mean we can move on, obviously, but it always I I feel like it never gets discussed.
19:49
SPEAKER_04: But like flight 93 left out in Newark at 842 a.m.
19:57
SPEAKER_04: And the first plane the first tower at 8 46 a.m.
20:03
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
20:04
SPEAKER_04: I always thought like fuck dude, if there was like a if there was even a five-minute delay, they would have seen that shit.
20:10
SPEAKER_04: I mean it's right there.
20:11
SPEAKER_04: The Newark airport's right there.
20:15
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
20:15
SPEAKER_04: That was just a weird thought that I had to.
20:17
SPEAKER_00: It is crazy.
20:19
SPEAKER_00: So shall we uh shall we transition now into something a little more positive?
20:26
SPEAKER_02: No, I'd rather not.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: This is fun, yeah.
20:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was good good conversation.
20:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh I did here's here's a light note.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: I literally got a text from my mom about 10 minutes ago.
20:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, I just uploaded last week's episode to YouTube today, and for some reason she only watches on YouTube, she won't like listen or do anything else.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: And she just texted me and she was like, I'm so happy you guys did recovery first and football second.
20:52
SPEAKER_00: So that was good.
20:54
SPEAKER_00: You're welcome.
20:55
SPEAKER_00: That that one's for you, Suzanne.
20:56
SPEAKER_04: Just depends on depends on the week on which topics gonna suck, really.
21:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I tell you what now that you guys all all say that stuff, I'm trying to think because where I live is like wildly liberal.
21:07
SPEAKER_02: Maya came home from school, and I'm pretty sure I didn't hear one thing about 9-11 or anything.
21:11
SPEAKER_02: You better ask that.
21:12
SPEAKER_00: I I do I have heard that in some of the more liberal areas they are they're not educating or teaching on it as much for to be sensitive to the Muslim community in the schools.
21:28
SPEAKER_01: Does do they say the Pledge of Allegiance at my school?
21:31
SPEAKER_01: No, no chance.
21:32
SPEAKER_04: Are you serious?
21:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no way, bro.
21:34
SPEAKER_02: No way, Corey, Corey.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: We're lucky here, dude.
21:36
SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
21:37
SPEAKER_04: You gotta fact that.
21:39
SPEAKER_02: Are you are you sure?
21:40
SPEAKER_02: No, 100% positive.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of places that don't anymore, Corey.
21:44
SPEAKER_00: We're lucky here.
21:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 100% positive, dude.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: We we we live in a very we're lucky, let's just say that, Corey.
21:52
SPEAKER_00: So I mean, it's just guys, complacency in sobriety.
21:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
21:58
SPEAKER_00: I pledge allegiance.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:04
SPEAKER_00: Um we're talking about complacency and sobriety tonight, resting on our laurels, which means our past achievements, uh, what happens when we get complacent, how we get to the point of complacency, and how we can hopefully like turn that tide and get back to some action before um before it really takes a toll on us.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: So um I think you know, I'll just kick it off and kind of get a conversation starter going, give you guys a second to to collect some thoughts, but I think that um so I have uh believe it or not, I have gone through periods of complacent sobriety.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: Uh there have been times where specifically that I wasn't meditating on a regular basis.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: There have been times where there was times like that I was only going to one meeting a week for a long time.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: Um and my complacency may not look like everybody else's.
23:01
SPEAKER_00: I get all that, but my life is set up to where like that is really inexcusable for me with the time that I have, with my work schedule.
23:08
SPEAKER_00: It hasn't really been much in the last few years, but there was there there have definitely been points, and like I think the biggest thing is I think it's easy to get hung up on like all the stuff I've done, and it's easy to get hung up on, you know, I have a busy life and the kids this and the kids that, and and the family this and the job that, and like that, none those are all, you know, they're none of those are invalid points, you know.
23:33
SPEAKER_00: But I like what happens is I have to remember that, you know, do I still believe that my life is on the line with this thing, right?
23:42
SPEAKER_00: Do I I mean we've seen countless, countless people um that had years of sobriety that have fallen off, and a lot of times they seem to hang on for a few years, not doing much, and then they're they're not sober anymore, you know, or worse, they're god forbid they're they're dead, right?
24:05
SPEAKER_00: And I'm not I'm not trying to be like super dramatic with it, but this is a program of life or death for us.
24:11
SPEAKER_00: This is a disease that would wants us dead.
24:14
SPEAKER_00: Um, any of us, with the amount of time we've had with sobriety, I think if we, God forbid we ever relapse, like it would just be it would be like curtains for us because just it's I just don't know how you come back from that, you know.
24:27
SPEAKER_00: Um so I think two things, a few things for me.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: One, obviously, having my wife who's in recovery is like super important.
24:35
SPEAKER_00: She helps keep me on my toes, and we kind of do the same for each other.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, she's she's constantly meeting with her girls.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: I got my guys that I meet with, like she's got her commitments and her groups and all that stuff.
24:46
SPEAKER_00: And knowing that, like, okay, so Mondays and Wednesdays are her nights out, her nights at group, her nights at whatever, it it always, you know, helps keep it a reminder for me of how I always need to keep that.
24:58
SPEAKER_00: And I have it.
24:58
SPEAKER_00: I have my Tuesday nights, I have my Saturday nights usually, depending on family stuff.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: You know, Thursday nights pickleball, and pickleball is not uh not like a replacement for recovery groups or or working with mentors and mentees, but it is almost all of us are all in recovery that go.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: It is a fellowship aspect of it, a fellowship type thing where we're around other sober people and hanging out and doing things.
25:21
SPEAKER_00: You know, we we have different events we go to.
25:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, but having my wife there and then like just having guys that are constantly calling me and reaching out to me for guidance, direction, or even saying, Hey, when are we gonna meet again?
25:36
SPEAKER_00: When are we gonna do this?
25:37
SPEAKER_00: When are we gonna do that?
25:38
SPEAKER_00: Or can can you take this commitment?
25:40
SPEAKER_00: Can you take this meeting to detox?
25:42
SPEAKER_00: I need help with this.
25:43
SPEAKER_00: Can you come speak here?
25:44
SPEAKER_00: Like, all that stuff is a recipe to stay involved.
25:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, but it it, you know, I'm fortunate in the sense that like I don't know, I I've never not had the desire to be involved in it, you know, and I know that that might be different for some people, but I've I've always had the desire.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: It's always given me such a sense of purpose and direction and something to like Catherine and I were literally just talking about this in the car last night.
26:12
SPEAKER_00: We went to a um a wedding uh yesterday, we had a wonderful time, somebody in recovery.
26:18
SPEAKER_00: And uh I forget how we got on the subject of it, but um like we've we don't we wouldn't know what to do with our time, you know.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: Like we were kind of made a joke.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: Like if we just had family nights seven days a week where we were both home all the time, we'd probably drive each other effing crazy.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: Like we need that that outlet in those few days a week for each of us to to go out and and do our own thing and be with our own friends and get out of the house and not have to you know change a poopy diaper and put you know, wash long curly girl hair.
26:50
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
26:51
SPEAKER_00: Like I need a break from that every now and then.
26:53
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
26:54
SPEAKER_00: Let's we take that wherever we want.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, uh Dan, I'll go to you first just because you're on my screen.
27:00
SPEAKER_00: But uh it was your topic, great topic, great idea.
27:03
SPEAKER_00: Love to hear what you got to say.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
27:05
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, I mean, it look like you said, man, uh complacency or you know, I call it um, you know what I mean, like uh I'm content with my life, so I'm good.
27:15
SPEAKER_02: You know, like that's like uh the feeling that I I would say that I experience within me.
27:20
SPEAKER_02: And uh like you said, I don't ever lose the desire to do it, you know what I mean?
27:25
SPEAKER_02: But time.
27:26
SPEAKER_02: Time is my you know what I mean?
27:28
SPEAKER_02: Because like I said, I mean you guys all know, you know, I have a million things going on and doing this and this and this, you know, and no how no matter how many times, you know what I mean, 10 years, whatever, what you know, it's about to be 11 years is that that always creeps in without a thought.
27:43
SPEAKER_02: Like it just happened, it's life, you know.
27:45
SPEAKER_02: But like the checks and balances that you were just talking about, that if I am falling complacent, I'm able to recognize it in my actions to people, but more so I'm able to recognize that how I'm treating other people, talking to you guys, talking to this.
28:01
SPEAKER_02: And like I can feel that with my interactions with people, you know what I mean?
28:04
SPEAKER_02: And then I go to a recovery meeting or I go to this, and and then it's like you said, it checks you back in to like your divine purpose in life is X, you know.
28:14
SPEAKER_02: And that's like I it really, it really like it really is really hard.
28:18
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
28:19
SPEAKER_02: I I can say that it's definitely not easy for me, you know, lack of time and traveling, and you know, and I have you know softball three times a week and Alyssa's working nights now, and I can make yeah, every excuse I could put them on the board, and they're tangible excuses, they're legit, you know what I mean.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: But what what what what got me here?
28:37
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
28:38
SPEAKER_02: What is my purpose?
28:39
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean, and what am I doing to make myself better and help other people?
28:42
SPEAKER_02: You know, that's what it comes down to in the end.
28:44
SPEAKER_02: But it's so easy to lose that train of thought, you know, and I super like I hardly agree, you know what I mean, like with what you said about every year that goes by that I stay sober is every year that'll be harder to come back.
28:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:59
SPEAKER_02: I I agree, I I think that's so true, man.
29:02
SPEAKER_02: I think that's so true.
29:03
SPEAKER_02: You know, the every year that you go along and and and the the huge like ultimate stopgap for me is just in my life, you know what I mean?
29:11
SPEAKER_02: Like I said, like when when we brought up the topic, man, just things that happen in your life that hit so close that you're like, fuck man, this shit is so freaking real.
29:20
SPEAKER_02: Because you forget, you don't, you do.
29:22
SPEAKER_02: It's just it's just you just do forget how real it is.
29:25
SPEAKER_02: Like we all know the seriousness of it, and we all can say life or death and stuff like that.
29:30
SPEAKER_02: But when you experience it in someone close to you, or things that happen that, you know, I mean someone goes back out or whatever, this and that and the other thing, and and like really hits, and you're like, oh shit, man.
29:41
SPEAKER_02: You know, but um, yeah, I mean, recovery meetings and the fellowship, because that's where I get to talk to people, you know.
29:47
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's where I get to, you know, meet someone that I can help, maybe, you know, meet someone that can help me, maybe, you know, and all those things just you you always and whether it's workers, you know, I mean, you say, uh, you know, I'm gonna go back to my roots to where it started, and it always comes back to that, especially in a recovery program.
30:04
SPEAKER_02: It's just like this is how I got here, and this is what works.
30:07
SPEAKER_02: So I'm always gonna go back to that in the end.
30:09
SPEAKER_02: But that complacency, it's a it's a mother, man.
30:11
SPEAKER_02: I've been fortunate and and you know, just blessed, you know what I mean, by God, man, to have you guys to have recovery meetings around me.
30:18
SPEAKER_02: You know, I don't live in some desolate area where I can't find it.
30:22
SPEAKER_02: If I can't find it, it's because I don't want to find it.
30:24
SPEAKER_02: And you know, that's on me, that's not on anyone else.
30:26
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I mean I've had especially I mean me and Greg talked about it at length before, moving here, you know what I mean?
30:33
SPEAKER_02: That's the first thing I did when I moved here.
30:34
SPEAKER_02: I had, you know, we lived at Alyssa's mom's house and I didn't have a job and any of that stuff.
30:39
SPEAKER_02: And what did I do?
30:39
SPEAKER_02: I hit recovery meetings almost every single day.
30:42
SPEAKER_02: You know, why did I do that?
30:43
SPEAKER_02: Because I had nothing to do, because that's all I knew, you know, and I felt I still feel okay, you know, to be jobless for like three months, you know what I mean, and have no clue where we're gonna get money and all that stuff from.
30:53
SPEAKER_02: But we were good every single day.
30:54
SPEAKER_02: And I was going to recovery meetings and talking to people and stuff, and then life happens and all these things, you know, and it's like you can make excuses all day long, but I'm just I'm I'm grateful that I have, you know, a a solid base and foundation and people like you guys and the recovery meetings and the people in those rooms that you know check me back in.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, the the hard truths of the truth that uh hit close to home, you know, that that really that's like the uh I I think I think maybe almost once a year I get one of them that happens, man, and it's like oh man, you know, like I'm sure you guys feel the same way.
31:28
SPEAKER_02: Like it's just it really when it when it hits close, man, it it really is like a mindset where like, alright, what am I doing with my life?
31:36
SPEAKER_02: Corey, what about you?
31:40
SPEAKER_04: Um Well what do I say, Sean?
31:47
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
31:48
SPEAKER_04: I don't know, Corey.
31:50
SPEAKER_04: I'm intrigued.
31:51
SPEAKER_04: I didn't get I didn't get a fucking message with my script on it this week.
31:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you never do.
31:57
SPEAKER_04: I know, but this is the week I needed it.
32:00
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
32:01
SPEAKER_04: Um for starters, uh it's Dan, to something you said.
32:06
SPEAKER_04: I I definitely want to pitch a topic idea for one of these episodes one day.
32:14
SPEAKER_04: Uh all about moving when you're in recovery.
32:17
SPEAKER_04: Because personally, I want nothing more than to leave this hot ass state one day.
32:22
SPEAKER_04: And and we see it go both ways, right?
32:26
SPEAKER_04: We see it go both ways with people in recovery that kind of leave the recovery bubble that they're in, and many aren't successful and um in staying sober, and but you you know, you guys have been so one one of these one of these episodes, I feel like that'd be a good topic to talk about, and selfishly I just want to discuss it because I feel like it'd be fun.
32:45
SPEAKER_04: Um I'm fucking real good at complacency.
32:48
SPEAKER_04: I'm really, really good at getting getting complacent.
32:51
SPEAKER_04: I don't identify so much, by the way.
32:54
SPEAKER_04: I was I was thinking about this.
32:56
SPEAKER_04: Like I don't necessarily identify with the people that are a year sober getting complacent.
33:02
SPEAKER_04: Like it was still very fun and like you know, um a lot to do, you know what I mean?
33:10
SPEAKER_04: Like and maybe that has a lot to do with the area that we're in down here uh that you guys were in, and whatever, there's just a lot of recovery.
33:19
SPEAKER_04: So it was like, I mean you just said it, like there's a lot of recovery around, so it's like there's it's not really hard to find something to do.
33:27
SPEAKER_04: I will say that I fucking moved out here to East Bumblefuck, poor St.
33:31
SPEAKER_04: Lucie, and now it's really easy to be like, ah god, that's like a that's like 40 miles round trip, man.
33:38
SPEAKER_04: If I go to that fucking meeting, then I like it.
33:40
SPEAKER_04: And gas is expensive, and gas is four dollars a frickin' gallon, so like you know don't forget the egg.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: And the eggs.
33:55
SPEAKER_04: My headphones are being real weird, but um so I I you know I can make a lot of excuses today, but what I was saying is like I just think like if you're a year sober or like just or not even to put a timestamp on it, but like you're relatively newer, so you know, so to speak, and you're like complacent or resting on your laurel, like you don't even have laurels by that point.
34:16
SPEAKER_04: Like your marble still win.
34:19
SPEAKER_00: You don't even know laurel.
34:21
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
34:21
SPEAKER_04: It's like there there's so much I don't know, there's just so much to do.
34:26
SPEAKER_04: You just never if you fall off of that point, like I just don't I don't know if you ever had it, you know what I mean?
34:30
SPEAKER_04: And I'm not I'm not trying to say that like indignantly or whatever, it's just you know, it's not really I feel I in my experience it's been easier to get complacent the further I've gotten along because because I have more to more to rest on, right?
34:44
SPEAKER_00: Like, oh I you know if you're getting complacent at a year sober, you're in deep, deep doo-doo.
34:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
34:51
SPEAKER_04: It's so it's just easier when you have some time behind you to be like, I I'm good.
34:56
SPEAKER_04: I don't need you know what I mean.
34:57
SPEAKER_04: I don't need to hit two, three meetings a week.
34:59
SPEAKER_04: I can just hit my one one a week, my sweet spot, you know what I mean?
35:03
SPEAKER_04: And in reality, it's like that's not really like the what the one meeting I go to, honestly, like the whole foundation of our spiritual lives is helping other people.
35:16
SPEAKER_04: And honestly, at our at our one meeting that I hit a week, there's not like a plethora of people to help.
35:25
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
35:26
SPEAKER_04: Like there is like sporadically, Sean.
35:28
SPEAKER_04: Like, would you agree?
35:29
SPEAKER_04: Like it's it's not like the seven o'clock at the hall back in the day where there's just like everybody's fucking new.
35:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
35:36
SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, no, it's not.
35:38
SPEAKER_00: It's not like that.
35:42
SPEAKER_00: That's a maybe that's a conversation for another time.
35:44
SPEAKER_00: Because I do think there are plenty of there are plenty of new people coming into our Tuesday night group.
35:50
SPEAKER_00: We get a bunch of them from the two rehab and detox meetings that we have a commitment at, but correct.
35:55
SPEAKER_00: It is not like some of those meetings at at the clubhouse where it's three halfway houses and two treatment centers are there, and then you have, you know, 15% are sober multiple years.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's not like that, I would agree.
36:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
36:12
SPEAKER_04: So anyway, I'm gonna shut up for now because this is driving me insane.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
36:18
unknown: All right.
36:19
SPEAKER_01: Uh Greg.
36:21
SPEAKER_01: I uh I echo the same uh kind of sentiments uh of all you guys.
36:26
SPEAKER_01: Definitely with Dan.
36:27
SPEAKER_01: Um where where it hits in my life is is yeah, time, right?
36:32
SPEAKER_01: I work 50 plus hours a week, I have a commute, I have uh, you know, my my early mornings at the gym that uh have become uh an ingrained routine.
36:44
SPEAKER_01: I have a fiance and a kid, and um his sports activities and duties around the house and everything that comes along with it, you know.
36:55
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, when when I get complacent, it's mostly because I'm filling my life with other things, and that's cool because that's like the gifts that we've been given as part of our sobriety.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: But I think that um the times that I've gotten really complacent, it's because uh you know, I've I've I just consider myself lucky, you know.
37:18
SPEAKER_01: I I think that it hasn't gotten to a point where maybe having a drink uh seems like it would be an okay idea, you know, or maybe cutting loose on a weekend seems like it would be an okay idea.
37:33
SPEAKER_01: And and I just I know that that is uh the grace of a higher power looking out for me and and nothing else.
37:40
SPEAKER_01: It's not that's not me, because uh you know, on my own I've never been able to do that stuff.
37:46
SPEAKER_01: So um or at least um make those kind of decisions, certainly.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: So um but yeah, I think that's uh what what what it all comes down to is is coming back to what it is that we know, um, what it is that we know works, sure fire every time.
38:06
SPEAKER_01: Right?
38:06
SPEAKER_01: What does our literature say?
38:07
SPEAKER_01: It says that nothing will uh insure us uh immunity more so than one-on-one work with another person who's uh sick and suffering.
38:18
SPEAKER_01: So, you know, that is definitely what I try to stick to.
38:22
SPEAKER_01: You know, um but I am always curious.
38:24
SPEAKER_01: I and I and I try to ask the questions when I can without being intrusive or just an asshole.
38:32
SPEAKER_01: But when somebody does come back, you know, from a significant amount of time in sobriety, and then they go back out, and uh and I'm always interested to hear hear what it was.
38:43
SPEAKER_01: What what was was it was it uh was it a gradual path, was it a one life event, was it and and the answers, there's a plethora of different answers that you can get for that depending on the person.
38:56
SPEAKER_01: But I think that yeah, the common thread that runs through all of those stories is is yeah, the there there was complacency somewhere along the line.
39:08
SPEAKER_01: You know, um and and the the resting on the laurels, you know.
39:13
SPEAKER_01: So it it's yeah, maybe they were showing up to three, four meetings a week, maybe they were working with other people, but were they were did they have a a good contact with their higher power?
39:23
SPEAKER_01: Were they praying?
39:24
SPEAKER_01: Were they meditating?
39:25
SPEAKER_01: Were they doing all the stuff that we've been taught to do?
39:28
SPEAKER_01: You know, and somewhere along the line those those questions start coming up is nope, wasn't doing that.
39:35
SPEAKER_01: Nope, wasn't doing that, or you know, taking things piecemeal, you know, like it's a a buffet that we can just pick and choose.
39:42
SPEAKER_04: So can you can you guys know I dude I think I think one of my my biggest issues is uh is only going to like one meeting a week because it can get real real monotonous hearing the same thing five people share and that kind of stuff.
40:04
SPEAKER_04: And like not that it's even bad, like we got a good group on Tuesdays, we do.
40:08
SPEAKER_04: I I I wouldn't really want a different uh you know, regular meeting, but it's just you know, every now and again it's just like it gets you know a little mundane and it's and that's on me, right?
40:23
SPEAKER_04: That's for not getting to other ones, and like honestly, sometimes even a shitty meeting would would freshen things up, you know what I mean?
40:30
SPEAKER_04: Well, I mix it, yeah.
40:31
SPEAKER_02: I mix it up, man.
40:32
SPEAKER_02: I don't uh I'm not yeah, like I I like doing different ones different days sometimes because of that reason.
40:39
SPEAKER_01: I'll find one to them and telling telling them that your name is a different name.
40:43
SPEAKER_01: Like I am I'm Ronaldo, yeah, shirtless too.
40:46
SPEAKER_01: I used to do that Ronaldo the drywaller.
40:49
SPEAKER_00: So who used to do that all the time?
40:51
SPEAKER_00: Didn't Bill used to say he did that all the time?
40:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I'm not sure he ever did.
40:56
SPEAKER_01: Bill said he gave it different names.
40:58
SPEAKER_02: Because I don't know how, like, you know, Greg, I think we talked about it before, but like, you know what I mean?
41:02
SPEAKER_02: It's not like it's down there, you know what I mean.
41:04
SPEAKER_02: So you guys have your meeting, and all those people that are in that meeting ain't no meeting here like that.
41:08
SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
41:09
SPEAKER_01: There there have been it is very few and far between, and it's yeah, and it's okay.
41:14
SPEAKER_01: It's not I'm not I'm not I'm not you know, um, but what what I have found is that at least where I'm at, is that there are a lot of people that are ready to get back home after that meeting.
41:26
SPEAKER_01: So the like the the fellowship, yeah.
41:29
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to say it's non-existent because that's not the truth, you know.
41:32
SPEAKER_01: Like I um there's a there's a group of men we that do a uh like um a weekend, uh one one week in a first Saturday of the month, they do like a big brunch and and hang out and stuff like that afterwards, which is cool.
41:47
SPEAKER_01: But like, yeah, a lot of times it's hey, let's let's get here, let's let's do this work here and in this meeting.
41:54
SPEAKER_01: Let's let's uh you know maybe exchange some phone numbers, call me, call me later on.
41:58
SPEAKER_01: But I got I got a wife and kids to get home to, you know.
42:01
SPEAKER_01: And it's all right.
42:04
SPEAKER_00: I do, you know, that's it.
42:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you brought that up, and I know you both have brought that up multiple times before.
42:10
SPEAKER_00: Like I I do and I and Corey, you know, we are we are very fortunate, and we know that we're not it's not something that's new to us about how just how easily accessible really good recovery meetings are like every night of the week, sometimes in the in the morning, you know.
42:27
SPEAKER_00: Hell, you can even go to one in the middle of the day, that's probably not too bad, you know, four o'clock at nighttime, like they're legitimately within, at least for me, uh you're a little further now, but you know, I can go 10 minutes in pretty much any direction, almost any day of the week, any time of day for the most part, um, and and find one that's that's halfway decent.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: And I think I, you know, like it's it's obviously different for each one of us.
42:55
SPEAKER_00: Like we all have our our threshold, we all have our point where we know, okay, gotta get back to business, gotta get back to basics, need to hit a meeting, need to go do this, need to go do that.
43:03
SPEAKER_00: Like, I know what mine is.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: Uh it helps too.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, having I think, and I kind of mentioned it, I have there's not only my mentor who's very active, um, but is and is always asking me, like, hey, you go into this meeting, you go into that meeting, you want to take this into detox with me.
43:23
SPEAKER_00: Like, he does a detox thing every Tuesday, which is our our our group, Corey, but he still does it almost every Tuesday.
43:30
SPEAKER_00: But having enough people, like I it would be hard for me just to like stop showing up everywhere without a bunch of phone calls and stuff.
43:39
SPEAKER_00: And I think that's I think that's a a big thing too, having like that group of people.
43:43
SPEAKER_00: And again, maybe that's Dan, to your point, you know, you're you're a little more out there.
43:47
SPEAKER_00: There's not there's just not as much going on out there, you know.
43:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I don't know what that's like because I've never lived anywhere else in sobriety, you know.
43:54
SPEAKER_00: And to be honest with you, I'm not like terrified to do so.
43:58
SPEAKER_00: I do think my relationship with God is true.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: And I would I would find enough of a fellowship, but I part of me is like I don't I don't want to find out what that's like, you know, I don't want to have to relocate like you two did, unless, of course, like that's the path that God lays out and stuff like that.
44:14
SPEAKER_02: But you know, I think the most people I've had like like deep conversations outside of our re meeting was because they wanted me to remodel their bathroom.
44:28
SPEAKER_00: So what else?
44:30
SPEAKER_00: Anything else or we want to get right into the last 15 minutes of foo's ball.
44:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, I think.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: Let's do it.
44:39
SPEAKER_00: Well, boys, the season is here.
44:41
SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know.
44:43
SPEAKER_00: Uh thoughts, takeaways?
44:45
SPEAKER_00: Let's just start like we had we had a Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday game, bunch of games today.
44:50
SPEAKER_00: Let's just go initial initial first thoughts.
44:52
SPEAKER_00: Corey, I told you, J Brown's a bum.
44:56
SPEAKER_04: I told you.
44:57
SPEAKER_04: He's got weak angles.
45:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: That's all.
45:03
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
45:04
SPEAKER_00: I uh thoroughly impressed um by some teams, thoroughly impressed by the 49ers.
45:14
SPEAKER_00: Not that that's a big, like a big jump, but but you know, we talked about it.
45:19
SPEAKER_00: Rams were heavy favorites, thoroughly impressed by the Niners.
45:22
SPEAKER_00: Um honestly still impressed by the Patriots.
45:24
SPEAKER_00: They played a great game.
45:26
SPEAKER_00: Drake May just has to protect the football.
45:28
SPEAKER_00: Like they had that thing won.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: They did.
45:31
SPEAKER_00: Their defense stood up against a really good Seattle offense, and likewise, Seattle defense played good against them too, but like they had that thing won.
45:39
SPEAKER_00: And I think that is something that you can you can help fix from a quarterback like Drake May.
45:43
SPEAKER_00: I still think he's highly talented.
45:45
SPEAKER_00: Um so why are you never impressed by the Eagles?
45:49
SPEAKER_00: You weren't impressed today?
45:50
unknown: No.
45:50
SPEAKER_00: Um I'm impressed by their defense again.
45:54
SPEAKER_00: Their defense is stout, and it always has been.
45:56
SPEAKER_01: I mean, here's the thing.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm not Hertz went out there and did his thing, you know, for sure.
46:02
SPEAKER_01: But the what that game comes down to is that it comes down to Washington making a mistake in the last two minutes.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:09
SPEAKER_00: And they missed a field goal.
46:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah.
46:10
SPEAKER_01: And they missed a field goal.
46:12
SPEAKER_00: And Stefan Diggs is an idiot.
46:13
SPEAKER_00: It's been like the last two.
46:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the bear hug on the fucking that was.
46:18
SPEAKER_00: Not that they would have gone for two, but but they could have, and they would have had two cracks at it, they would have been able to go for it there.
46:25
SPEAKER_00: And if they didn't get it, they still, you know, hopefully, but now who knows how the organization of the game changes butterfly effect and all that.
46:32
SPEAKER_00: But then the block PAT, man.
46:34
SPEAKER_00: I told you, Corey, that was gonna come back to buy and and credit to you guys.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: Like Jalen Carter's a monster.
46:39
SPEAKER_00: I give it to you.
46:40
SPEAKER_00: I I I uh I wasn't listening.
46:44
SPEAKER_00: No, I wasn't super impressed with your offense.
46:46
SPEAKER_00: I wasn't, but I wasn't super impressed with my offense either.
46:49
SPEAKER_00: Saquon's gotta get it going, dude.
46:51
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know if it's the line or if it's Saquon, is just uh the the Dallas Goddard touchdown was a complete, total brain fart on the Redskins defense miscommunication.
47:02
SPEAKER_01: Which one?
47:03
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
47:04
SPEAKER_00: I was talking about the second one, but yeah.
47:06
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, yeah, so no, I wasn't impressed, but I wasn't impressed with ours either.
47:10
SPEAKER_00: I was impressed at how we were able to hang in the game with you guys.
47:15
SPEAKER_02: I think our minds of it that's what the Eagles do, though, man.
47:18
SPEAKER_02: It's been the last two years and change.
47:19
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they win games ugly, and then they when when they get the lead, they just sit on it.
47:23
SPEAKER_02: So that's why Staquon's not doing anything anymore.
47:26
SPEAKER_02: No one doesn't, they just sit on, they don't they don't blow out teams.
47:29
SPEAKER_00: They said that Ciriani is has the third most one-score wins in NFL history.
47:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I don't think that's a good thing.
47:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure it is either, but it's a hell of a stat.
47:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but yeah, they just sit on you know, whenever they get the lead and stuff, they just bank on that defense, and the defense.
47:47
SPEAKER_04: All I'm saying, though, I don't know football that well.
47:51
SPEAKER_04: But I do know I thought Jalen Hurts actually looked okay.
47:55
SPEAKER_00: He made a couple really good passes.
47:56
SPEAKER_00: He did.
47:57
SPEAKER_00: I will give you that.
47:58
SPEAKER_04: That's promising when you're an Eagles fan looking at Jalen Hurts.
48:02
SPEAKER_04: But also, he has the best record of starting quarterback in the NFL, and I'm just saying, yeah, I know that it's not always like the stats aren't aren't there or whatever, but like there's a lot to be said for when that he has the fucking football in his hands that they win a game.
48:18
SPEAKER_00: That's true.
48:19
SPEAKER_00: Give you that.
48:20
SPEAKER_00: Never never taking that, never taking that away from me.
48:23
SPEAKER_00: The only thing I and and not to reheat this one is this he's not a top level talent.
48:30
SPEAKER_00: He's a top level winner, for sure.
48:34
SPEAKER_00: For sure.
48:34
SPEAKER_00: Like you said, he does what he needs to do.
48:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so is Eli Manon, and he can't even walk on his own two feet.
48:40
SPEAKER_01: I will say that of the four o'clock games today, that one that was at least the most exciting.
48:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
48:46
SPEAKER_01: Um, which isn't saying much because the rest of them were duds, except for the fact that Minnesota uh decided to just go.
48:54
SPEAKER_01: Dude, how about let's quick I want to go quick.
48:57
SPEAKER_00: I want to just quickly I want to touch quickly on a couple games.
49:00
SPEAKER_00: How about the fucking Bears putting up almost?
49:03
SPEAKER_00: That was the game of the week.
49:04
SPEAKER_01: That was the game of the week.
49:05
SPEAKER_01: Both of those teams because hats off the game.
49:07
SPEAKER_01: And it was like 31-31.
49:09
SPEAKER_01: Bryce, Bryce Young.
49:11
SPEAKER_01: If Bryce Young had not, um or I'm sorry, if Caleb Williams had not run in those two touchdowns, yeah, Bryce Williams would have had ended up have or Bryce Williams, Bryce Young would have had a better rating today.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: Bryce Young would have had a better rating today, dude.
49:28
SPEAKER_01: They they were both electric out there.
49:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it was like 30, it was like 31-31 somewhere in the third quarter, too.
49:35
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah.
49:35
SPEAKER_02: Then they had that 61-yard touchdown or whatever.
49:37
SPEAKER_00: The Bears when they took out that one, and then you you guys mentioned it.
49:42
SPEAKER_00: Dude, Carson Wentz out of nowhere after uh Kyler Murray might be dead.
49:46
SPEAKER_01: I think Kyler Murray might be dead.
49:48
SPEAKER_00: He might be dead.
49:50
SPEAKER_00: I mean, 40 points, 39 points from that.
49:52
SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
49:53
SPEAKER_00: Um, the the Lions squeaking it out in overtime against the Saints after they had a uh a three touchdown lead or whatever it was.
50:00
SPEAKER_01: They're gonna be they're gonna be in trouble.
50:01
SPEAKER_01: They are, man.
50:02
SPEAKER_00: Something something's off there, dude.
50:04
SPEAKER_00: Something stinks.
50:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, the Bills showing a lot of grit.
50:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that was that was a great game.
50:10
SPEAKER_00: I watched almost all that game because it was televised on my end.
50:13
SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
50:13
SPEAKER_01: Big time props because the Texans have been the thorn in their side for a couple years now.
50:18
SPEAKER_00: 2006, they haven't beat him in Texas since 2006.
50:22
SPEAKER_01: Hats off.
50:23
SPEAKER_00: And I but I will say Josh Allen tried to throw that game away.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: Did you see that one he tried to throw it like that long end zone pass, and and it totally the defender turned the or the his offense, his um whoever it was turned the opposite way, and the defender hit his hands and he just dropped it.
50:40
SPEAKER_00: That would have been the game right there.
50:42
unknown: Yep.
50:42
SPEAKER_00: But but yeah, they I mean, he threw some seeds though, bro.
50:47
SPEAKER_00: But so did so did CJ Stroud.
50:48
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that was a great game as well.
50:50
SPEAKER_00: That truly was a great game.
50:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, see CJ Stroud just had that dud at the end, and that was that was it.
50:57
SPEAKER_00: Get it knocked out.
50:58
SPEAKER_00: Um Danny, your game's still going on, it's a close game right now.
51:02
SPEAKER_00: That's the Giants started.
51:03
SPEAKER_01: I didn't I haven't watched it since we've been on the pod, but the that first drive by the Giants was nice.
51:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, dude, that's the loudest I've heard that place in a long time.
51:11
SPEAKER_02: They're pumped, dude.
51:12
SPEAKER_02: Damn it.
51:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's just some sign of life.
51:14
SPEAKER_02: That's all we need, baby.
51:16
SPEAKER_02: The hope of a new season.
51:17
SPEAKER_02: It's real, it's eternal, bro.
51:19
SPEAKER_02: It's so real.
51:19
SPEAKER_02: Like it's like all those guys just got out of detox and the hope is real.
51:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they can't wait to be sober.
51:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh, dude, my uh I honestly I watched a little bit of it, obviously, because it was televised here.
51:31
SPEAKER_02: They didn't hold out great, but um the Bengals, man, their defense, their new defense.
51:35
SPEAKER_02: It looked really good in the beginning.
51:37
SPEAKER_02: It did, they look good.
51:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they started giving it back a little bit and stuff like that, but they look they look good, man.
51:41
SPEAKER_02: They keep a little healthy.
51:42
SPEAKER_00: The the Browns showed some promise, Greg, you know?
51:45
SPEAKER_00: Like what is okay.
51:48
SPEAKER_01: Denzel Boston caught a caught a four-yard touchdown at the end of the game.
51:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they looked pretty bad, dude.
51:54
SPEAKER_04: What happened with that game?
51:54
SPEAKER_04: Did they win?
51:55
SPEAKER_04: Oh, dude.
51:56
SPEAKER_04: They were down like 30 to nothing.
51:58
SPEAKER_04: I wonder.
52:00
SPEAKER_01: And then it wasn't it was never the the seven points came at the end of the game.
52:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
52:06
SPEAKER_01: The the Bears are my sweet.
52:07
SPEAKER_01: Sean Watson looks like poop.
52:10
SPEAKER_00: He looked bad, dude.
52:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:12
SPEAKER_00: He looked so bad.
52:14
SPEAKER_00: I thought he was in jail.
52:16
SPEAKER_00: He shouldn't be.
52:17
SPEAKER_00: No.
52:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:19
SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, I mean, they couldn't, they couldn't run the ball, they couldn't pass the ball.
52:24
SPEAKER_01: It was it was a rough, rough outing.
52:26
SPEAKER_01: The box score doesn't.
52:28
SPEAKER_01: I think I think he had like 200 yards, one TD and one interception, but yeah, the box score does not.
52:33
SPEAKER_00: It was pedestrian, yeah.
52:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
52:35
SPEAKER_00: Um it is fun that the season's back though.
52:37
SPEAKER_00: Like I was I was watching that first game with the Bills, and just like I played golf early this morning, and just and then the the girls were at a birthday party today, and then Catherine took the girls to go bowling with one of her friends and their kids.
52:49
SPEAKER_00: So it was just me and the baby pretty much all day hanging out at home, just watching football.
52:53
SPEAKER_00: It was really it was cool.
52:54
SPEAKER_01: Rogers, Rogers got some zing to him still, dude.
52:57
SPEAKER_01: I mean I get it.
52:58
SPEAKER_00: It's his last year.
52:59
SPEAKER_00: It's it's PJ Watt won them that game.
53:02
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
53:03
SPEAKER_01: Well, but I will say this.
53:05
SPEAKER_00: No, he does.
53:05
SPEAKER_00: He throws Atlanta.
53:07
SPEAKER_01: Atlanta's gotta figure something out.
53:09
SPEAKER_01: Atlanta's gotta figure something out at quarterback because they cannot throw the football.
53:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and they're ways to be John, man.
53:16
SPEAKER_02: He's a beast.
53:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:20
SPEAKER_02: It was fun.
53:20
SPEAKER_01: Um not to Burrow Burrow had to just okay.
53:25
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he'll get he'll they got it done against the Buccaneers.
53:29
SPEAKER_00: I I hate to say it because I'm not a Burrow fan, but he'll he'll be fine.
53:33
SPEAKER_00: He'll he'll figure it out.
53:34
SPEAKER_02: Their offense is always fine, it's just the defense.
53:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
53:37
SPEAKER_00: Um not to to go backwards here, but guys, did you I'm sure you watched it, Greg.
53:45
SPEAKER_00: Texas, Ohio State last night?
53:48
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I did that.
53:49
SPEAKER_00: Whoa.
53:50
SPEAKER_00: That was like I'm sorry for you, Greg.
53:52
SPEAKER_00: I know you're not Ohio State fan.
53:53
SPEAKER_00: That was unbelievable.
53:55
SPEAKER_00: In Royal.
53:56
SPEAKER_00: That was completely.
53:58
SPEAKER_00: We deserved to lose halves.
54:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
54:00
SPEAKER_02: Like the misery at a softball field at 9 a.m.
54:04
SPEAKER_02: by all their parents was insane this morning.
54:07
SPEAKER_00: Corey, it was 20 to that was like a huge the biggest college football game of the year so far.
54:11
SPEAKER_00: It was number one Ohio State versus number four, Texas.
54:14
SPEAKER_00: In Texas, which I think played a large part of that, it was 20 to 3 at halftime Ohio State.
54:21
SPEAKER_00: Texas could not get any offense going, and Texas ends up winning the game.
54:27
SPEAKER_00: And they just like it was it was unreal, honestly.
54:30
SPEAKER_00: Like, I I don't know.
54:32
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, but that's college, though.
54:34
SPEAKER_00: That's that's college.
54:35
SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Cleveland Browns, Archmaning.
54:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're coming, buddy.
54:39
SPEAKER_00: You're coming.
54:40
SPEAKER_00: Very possible.
54:41
SPEAKER_00: Hell yeah.
54:43
SPEAKER_00: So what else?
54:45
SPEAKER_00: Anything else you want to touch on?
54:46
SPEAKER_00: Uh how'd fantasy stuff go for you guys so far?
54:51
SPEAKER_01: Two two out of three.
54:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, well, ask ask Corey.
54:54
SPEAKER_01: Ask Corey how fantasies go.
54:56
SPEAKER_02: I'm actually cooking right now.
54:57
SPEAKER_02: I got three giants.
54:58
SPEAKER_02: Uh uh likely and scatterboo both got touchdowns, and Dart I got Dart too.
55:03
SPEAKER_02: Nice.
55:04
SPEAKER_04: I I I mean, I'm I don't know.
55:06
SPEAKER_04: I think I suck at this, I'm pretty sure.
55:08
SPEAKER_04: It's gotta be me at this point.
55:10
SPEAKER_04: Who am I playing?
55:11
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
55:13
SPEAKER_04: I had the first I had the first fucking pick.
55:16
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
55:17
SPEAKER_04: I literally well, I guess Peyton picked your uh roster or whatever, but I was giving Greg shit about picking Josh Allen in the first time.
55:25
SPEAKER_01: Yep, and he scored the most points out of anybody in the week this week.
55:29
SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
55:29
SPEAKER_04: Not a bad pick.
55:31
SPEAKER_01: Not a bad pick at all.
55:32
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I I thought you know, I whatever.
55:35
SPEAKER_04: I've I was told you don't pick a QB that early, but whatever.
55:38
SPEAKER_04: Apparently you do whatever the guy, dude.
55:41
SPEAKER_04: As long as you're not Corey Mitchler.
55:42
SPEAKER_04: He's that guy.
55:44
SPEAKER_00: Peyton's gonna win GM of the year, probably.
55:46
SPEAKER_00: Most likely.
55:47
SPEAKER_04: Uh I I was gonna I was gonna tell you to put him in the chat.
55:52
SPEAKER_04: Put him in the chat, Greg.
55:53
SPEAKER_04: I gotta talk some shit.
55:56
SPEAKER_00: Well, the beautiful thing about it is first week of the season, long season to go.
56:01
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's exciting times.
56:02
SPEAKER_00: I won't even get into baseball.
56:04
SPEAKER_00: I I I am dude, you guys whooped our butts today, Corey, but we we whooped, we beat the brains off you guys last night, like 13 to 2.
56:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but we've we've took two out of three from you.
56:15
SPEAKER_00: I just I man, we won in over extra innings the other night against you guys, Corey.
56:19
SPEAKER_00: It's I've I'm so pumped for playoff baseball.
56:23
SPEAKER_00: I know it's all about football, but I am so pumped for playoff baseball.
56:26
SPEAKER_00: Greg, you guys are only like a half game back, right?
56:28
SPEAKER_01: We got the series uh series of the year tomorrow, starting tomorrow again.
56:32
SPEAKER_01: It's exciting against the White Sox to see who's gonna who's exciting lead the division.
56:37
SPEAKER_02: We got four with Tampa Bay coming up, I think, next week.
56:40
SPEAKER_00: You guys just won tonight.
56:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh over you beat the Mets tonight, today, Greg.
56:43
SPEAKER_00: Or today, man.
56:44
SPEAKER_02: We beat the uh Cy Young, man.
56:46
SPEAKER_01: We beat the twins uh yeah like nine to four today.
56:49
SPEAKER_02: So old Schlitty's under two now.
56:51
SPEAKER_02: He's got the Cy Young locked up.
56:53
SPEAKER_00: Good stuff.
56:54
SPEAKER_00: Well, we will uh we will we'll be back, man.
56:57
SPEAKER_00: We'll be back.
56:58
SPEAKER_00: We we're we do this every week, guys.
57:00
SPEAKER_00: So don't worry.
57:00
SPEAKER_00: Plenty of time, plenty of time to talk about how stinky Jalen Hurts is.
57:07
SPEAKER_00: Love all you guys.
57:08
SPEAKER_00: As always, thank you for being here.
57:10
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for chopping it up with us.
57:12
SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, good con good conversation on the front end.
57:16
SPEAKER_00: It might not always be the happiest, but I think it's important that we get that stuff out there about how what we're teaching our kids and and and how we feel about these things.
57:24
SPEAKER_00: And it's real stuff, it's real stuff that real people in sobriety have to deal with.
57:29
SPEAKER_00: We don't we don't uh we don't get you know covered in in linen or whatever it says in our literature about and protected from all these outside things.
57:38
SPEAKER_00: We still have to live in the world.
57:40
SPEAKER_00: So good good conversation.
57:42
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57:43
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57:47
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57:57
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58:01
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58:11
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58:15
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58:18
SPEAKER_00: Good night.
58:19
SPEAKER_00: God bless.
58:19
SPEAKER_00: May you trudge the road of happy destiny.
58:22
SPEAKER_00: We will see you in week two.