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Sausages and Saunas · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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Speaker 1: Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, more red
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Speaker 1: flags for Tammy Hembrough ahead of her wedding next month,
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Speaker 1: Sarah's Day's dramatic final days of pregnancy and Steph Clare
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Speaker 1: Smith's anticlimactic life update.
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Speaker 2: But first, a bizarre.
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Speaker 1: Rant about sausages and saunas has sparked breakup rumors between
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Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley and her baby daddy, Lockie, war.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Lockie has.
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Speaker 1: Been missing from Sky's social media for a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks now. And it's quite odd because initially, Lockie never
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Speaker 1: wanted to be included on Sky's channel. He made it
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Speaker 1: pretty clear he didn't want to get involved. But since
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Speaker 1: she won I'm a Celeb, he has started being featured
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Speaker 1: more and more and At the time, a lot of
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Speaker 1: people said possibly it was because his business wasn't doing
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Speaker 1: so well. So maybe he realized that he might have
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Speaker 1: to go on and start a social media career of
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Speaker 1: his own or be more supportive of Sky's career. Well,
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Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, there were media reports that
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Speaker 1: his business ShopFitCo had gone into administration. Just last week,
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Speaker 1: he hit back at those claims saying that his business
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Speaker 1: was still solvent. I have always loved seeing Lockie on
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Speaker 1: Sky's channel. He is hilarious even without trying to be.
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Speaker 1: I have a soft spot for him as well because
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Speaker 1: I don't think he intentionally tries to be funny. No.
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Speaker 1: I think he's just, I don't want to say an oddball,
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Speaker 1: but I think he's just a bit weird and he
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Speaker 1: and Sky just play off each other really well because
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Speaker 1: he'll give it to her. Yeah. A lot of people
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Speaker 1: have noticed that he's actually a bit of eye candy
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Speaker 1: as well. He was never really my type, but he
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Speaker 1: seems to have matured a bit.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's just been hitting the gym
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Speaker 2: or not.
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Speaker 1: I think it's when guys reach 30 and they start
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Speaker 1: to look like real men.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that has something to do with it.
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Speaker 1: I had a big laugh on Sunday because I don't
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Speaker 1: follow him on social media, but one of the comments
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Speaker 1: on Sky's photos said to go check it out because
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Speaker 1: he was being a little bit unhinged. And his username
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Speaker 1: is Sweet Tooth, isn't it? It's actually not his real name. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so when I clicked over, I was surprised. His page
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Speaker 1: actually has 51,000 followers. I'm guessing all of Sky's followers
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Speaker 1: have gone over. I haven't seen someone be so real
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Speaker 1: on social media for such a long time.
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Speaker 2: Let's throw to some of what he said. Just a
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Speaker 2: bit of fucking topic.
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Speaker 3: Go!
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Speaker 2: You fucking beauty And you know what happens When you
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Speaker 2: have a bit of chorizo It's a bit salty So
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Speaker 2: you gotta whip up another G & T baby You
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Speaker 2: fucking beauty.
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Speaker 1: And you know what they say when you've had too
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Speaker 1: much chorizo And too many G & Ts You just
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Speaker 1: gotta take yourself Downtown.
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Speaker 2: You gotta have a really serious think about what you've
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Speaker 2: done and you've gotta sweat it out baby. And then
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Speaker 2: you might find yourself sitting down pondering, wondering.
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Speaker 1: Why did I just eat three or four lengths of sausage?
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Speaker 3: You might be thinking, did I really need to eat
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Speaker 3: three pieces of sausage?
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Speaker 1: And then I lay here, I sit and wonder and
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Speaker 1: I think, Well, you probably didn't need to eat three
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Speaker 1: pieces of sausage. Maybe one sausage would have done. Maybe two,
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Speaker 1: but three, three pieces of sausage.
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Speaker 2: That's one sausage too much.
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Speaker 3: Don't know about you guys, but I hope you guys
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Speaker 3: enjoy that because I'll tell you what, I'm fucking sick
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Speaker 3: to death of just seeing.
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Speaker 1: Fucking fake shit. I don't know what's going on in
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Speaker 1: the fucking world anymore, but everyone's so just.
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Speaker 2: fucking serious and everyone's just doing fitness and shit i
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Speaker 2: mean that's all good being fit but like don't live
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Speaker 2: a lie just like do shit who cares stop being
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Speaker 2: so fucking serious.
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Speaker 1: I tend to agree with him i want to see
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Speaker 1: more content like that on social media i want to
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Speaker 1: see people being unhinged saying it how it is There
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Speaker 1: was a part of me that was thinking, is he
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Speaker 1: taking aim at Sky? But let's be honest, Sky is
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Speaker 1: exactly like that on social media. She does post fitness stuff,
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Speaker 1: but she also never filters herself.
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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the content too.
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Speaker 1: However, there was a bit of a mixed reception in
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Speaker 1: our Facebook community. So one of our listeners said, his
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Speaker 1: stories are giving midlife crisis.
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Speaker 2: Ha ha ha.
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Speaker 1: Another said, guys who jump on social media and yap
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Speaker 1: are generally super embarrassing, to be honest. Whilst another said,
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Speaker 1: I'm finding it odd because he hated being on social media. Well,
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Speaker 1: the reason people think that Lockie has broken up with
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Speaker 1: Skye or that they're on a break is the fact
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Speaker 1: that all of that footage was actually filmed at, people
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Speaker 1: are speculating, his mum's house.
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Speaker 2: It was a very nice house. It had a beautiful pool.
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Speaker 2: It was very Hampton style. It even had a sauna,
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Speaker 2: as you could hear.
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Speaker 1: I remember seeing Lockie's parents appear in a very early
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Speaker 1: vlog when Skye and Lockie started dating. And I think
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Speaker 1: that they were meeting for a Christmas celebration and his
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Speaker 1: parents looked very how to do and they looked rather
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Speaker 1: taken back. by some of the things that Sky was saying.
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Speaker 1: So I think that they are very wealthy. Some people
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Speaker 1: think that he must just be house-sitting for his mum,
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Speaker 1: who appears to be holidaying at the moment. I wonder
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Speaker 1: if he went rogue on social media because he's a
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Speaker 1: bit lonely. He's probably used to being in this very
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Speaker 1: chaotic and loud house with Sky and their kids. And
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Speaker 1: maybe he just felt like getting some of that energy
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Speaker 1: out online. I just think he went rogue because he
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Speaker 1: was enjoying himself. I mean, if you're a father of
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Speaker 1: two and you're used to being in a family environment
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Speaker 1: and you've got this beautiful house by yourself He ate
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Speaker 1: three or four chorizo sausages.
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Speaker 2: And went in a sauna. I mean, what a perfect
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Speaker 2: evening for some people.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just interesting that he would choose to share it,
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Speaker 1: particularly when he has been so against appearing in Sky's
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Speaker 1: social media content. I'm officially five days away from my
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Speaker 1: due date.
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Speaker 2: I'm at 39 weeks and two days.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you'll just have to believe me. I currently give.
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Speaker 3: You a bump update.
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Speaker 1: Sarah's day is definitely making the most out of her
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Speaker 1: third and final pregnancy.
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Speaker 2: The controversial influencer.
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Speaker 1: Has been keeping her 1.2 million followers regularly updated on
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Speaker 1: her final weeks of pregnancy from sharing induction methods to
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Speaker 1: a daily tally of her gestation period. For the record,
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Speaker 1: she's officially 40 weeks today. I keep checking in on
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Speaker 1: her Instagram account to see if the baby's finally here
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Speaker 1: and I just can't believe that it still hasn't arrived
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Speaker 1: because two weeks ago she did this big update.
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Speaker 2: Saying, oh my God, everyone, I've lost my mucus plug.
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Speaker 2: Baby must be on its way. But then she.
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Speaker 1: Plugged her Pilates or pregnancy workout guide as part of
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Speaker 1: that update. Of course she did, because that has been
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Speaker 1: a theme throughout it. You can tell that she really
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Speaker 1: is trying to monetize this pregnancy because pregnancy has been
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Speaker 1: such a big part.
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Speaker 2: Of her brand for the last five years.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you almost get the sense of desperation of
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Speaker 1: ensuring that she milks this final pregnancy. Well, I think
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Speaker 1: she realizes that now that she's going to have three
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Speaker 1: very young children and There's no way that she's going
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Speaker 1: to be able to push out the volume of content
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Speaker 1: that she used to. I mean, in the past couple
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Speaker 1: of years, we've seen a huge decline in the amount
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Speaker 1: of videos that she's put out and also the amount
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Speaker 1: of views that she receives on videos and the hype
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Speaker 1: around her. Well, her pregnancies have always created a lot
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Speaker 1: of hype and also acted as distraction from some of
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Speaker 1: the biggest scandals that she's been involved in. For instance,
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Speaker 1: her first pregnancy with Fox was the perfect distraction away
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Speaker 1: from that Sin 3 drama. And his birth ended up
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Speaker 1: being the most watched moment on her YouTube channel to date.
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Speaker 1: And she is definitely trying to build suspense with her
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Speaker 1: content around baby number three. So at 38 weeks pregnant,
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Speaker 1: Sarah revealed the methods that she was trying to induce labor.
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Speaker 1: So one of those was a pregnancy leg massage. So
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Speaker 1: she shared that the massage had brought on labor, not
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Speaker 1: only for her, but also her friends within 24 hours
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Speaker 1: of having it. And the following day, she was MIA
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Speaker 1: from her Instagram account, which caused a lot of speculation
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Speaker 1: that she had gone into labor. She then returned on
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Speaker 1: the Monday and told her followers that she doesn't post
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Speaker 1: much on the weekend. That was despite sharing about the
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Speaker 1: massage on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: Well, she's a businesswoman.
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Speaker 1: It's a great way to drum up engagement and get
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Speaker 1: people coming in to check back in on your page,
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Speaker 1: which I was doing. Now, one of the reasons that
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Speaker 1: Sarah seems so keen to induce labor is because of
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Speaker 1: the looming date of Halloween. So she revealed that she
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Speaker 1: does not want her baby born on Halloween because of
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Speaker 1: religious reasons. So a follower wrote on her page, I
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Speaker 1: wonder if you're going to have a Halloween baby, to
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Speaker 1: which she replied, I will put my pelvic floor to
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Speaker 1: the ultimate test and keep him inside of me if
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Speaker 1: my body tries to go into labor on Halloween.
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Speaker 2: My worst day of the year, no thanks.
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Speaker 1: A follower asked Sarah why, and she responded saying, I
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Speaker 1: just think it's super demonic and totally goes against my faith.
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Speaker 1: But if baby decides to come on Halloween, then I'll
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Speaker 1: actually celebrate that date for a different reason, including a
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Speaker 1: birthday cake emoji, as well as clapping hands and balloons.
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Speaker 1: At first, I thought it was a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a joke, the reference to Halloween, but then I realized
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Speaker 1: there were some religious reasonings behind not wanting to give
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Speaker 1: birth on that date. It's actually funny to hear an
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Speaker 1: influencer talk badly about Halloween because normally they're using it
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Speaker 1: for content and posting costume ideas. This didn't particularly surprise
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Speaker 1: me because Halloween is one of those holidays, which isn't
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Speaker 1: embraced by a lot of religions, particularly the Christian faith.
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Speaker 1: And she does speak a lot about her religious views.
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Speaker 1: So she's entitled to not want her baby born on Halloween.
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Speaker 1: My husband's birthday is actually a day before Halloween and
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Speaker 1: he has grown up hating Halloween. I think it's because
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Speaker 1: as a child, The day after your birthday is always
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Speaker 1: so disappointing. And I think he felt like Halloween took
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Speaker 1: the shine off the fact that it was his day.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, moving on to the drama surrounding this last week
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Speaker 1: of pregnancy. On Monday last week, while doing a tutorial
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Speaker 1: on how to express colostrum, Sarah flagged that she was
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Speaker 1: starting to feel unwell. So during Sarah's last labor with
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Speaker 1: her son Malachi, she actually had rhinovirus and she was
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Speaker 1: very unwell. And she said the fact that she was
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Speaker 1: getting a scratchy throat actually was triggering her because she
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Speaker 1: has opened up about having birth trauma surrounding both of
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Speaker 1: the births of her sons.
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Speaker 2: Oh, I felt so sorry for her.
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Speaker 1: She looked incredibly unwell and it seemed like she was
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Speaker 1: trying anything to get better. She then asked her followers
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Speaker 1: for some home remedies to help fight off her sickness
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Speaker 1: and But unfortunately, the following day, she revealed that despite
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Speaker 1: all of the attempts, she was struck down with the flu.
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Speaker 1: She wrote on Instagram, went to bed with onions on
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Speaker 1: my feet, onions next to the bed, ate raw garlic,
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Speaker 1: took all the vitamins and have still woken up incredibly sick.
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Speaker 1: I do feel very sorry for her that she was
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Speaker 1: feeling sick and that this triggered her. But I did
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Speaker 1: have a laugh because it was like, can you believe it?
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Speaker 1: I've done all of these things. And it's like, why
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Speaker 1: didn't you go to the doctor?
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Speaker 2: Like why would you be trying all these home remedies?
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Speaker 1: I also saw she went to this very expensive health
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Speaker 1: food store and said, I will buy everything you tell
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Speaker 1: me to. And of course she came home with a
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Speaker 1: huge supply of things because they probably saw dollar signs.
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Speaker 1: And she had these three large smoothies that she literally
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Speaker 1: sculled on her Instagram story.
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Speaker 2: I would hate to think how much they cost. No
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Speaker 2: wonder she ended up vomiting.
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Speaker 1: She did say it could have had something to do
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Speaker 1: with the raw garlic that she also ate. I think
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Speaker 1: when you're that heavily pregnant and you've had such a
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Speaker 1: bad experience with your other labours, that you're going to
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Speaker 1: try and do anything to feel like you've got control
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Speaker 1: over the situation? Well, she even asked her followers to
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Speaker 1: pray for her. So she put out what she called
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Speaker 1: a prayer request asking for, quote, health and healing over
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Speaker 1: my body and that baby stays in me until I
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Speaker 1: can fight this off. Please, Lord, just protect this baby
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Speaker 1: and keep him cooking so I don't give him this
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Speaker 1: sickness or have to go through labor like this again. Now,
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Speaker 1: despite saying that she didn't want to give birth, She
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Speaker 1: then ended up having a bath with Clary sage oil,
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Speaker 1: which actually can stimulate the uterus to contract and people
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Speaker 1: normally use it to induce labor. So I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: if she just wasn't thinking in that moment, but she
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Speaker 1: has been trying so many remedies to bring.
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Speaker 2: Forth this labor.
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Speaker 1: Now, after taking two days off to recover from her cold,
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Speaker 1: Sarah returned online and this time it was to share
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Speaker 1: what she called her favorite optical illusion. So she filmed
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Speaker 1: herself front on in the mirror before turning to the
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Speaker 1: side to show off her baby bump. She captioned the
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Speaker 1: reel forever my favorite optical illusion and went on to
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Speaker 1: share that she was 39 plus two days pregnant. Now,
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Speaker 1: since the time of recording, this reel has amassed 1.3
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Speaker 1: million views and has sparked.
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Speaker 2: A lot of debate.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the majority of the commentary was positive towards Sarah.
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Speaker 1: Many followers were praising her for her amazing physique. One
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Speaker 1: person wrote, everyone must be so envious that you have
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Speaker 1: a waist even when so pregnant. Another person added, your
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Speaker 1: body is going to bounce right back. You look absolutely incredible.
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Speaker 1: One person actually passed her bump size off as being
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Speaker 1: to do with the gender of the baby and So
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Speaker 1: they wrote, that's a boy bump for you. Sarah seemed
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Speaker 1: to take offense to that comment, responding, I'd say it's
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Speaker 1: more a combo of being raging healthy, working out for
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Speaker 1: the entirety of my pregnancy, following a core strength program,
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Speaker 1: body and bump, and some genetics sprinkled in, rather than
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Speaker 1: the gender of my baby. I love how she uses
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Speaker 1: this moment to plug her fitness program. It's clear that
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Speaker 1: a lot of people actually felt inadequate after seeing this reel.
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Speaker 1: One person wrote, this makes me depressed. Happy for you,
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Speaker 1: but I'm struggling not to hate myself. this is my issue,
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Speaker 1: not yours. I totally understand where that person is coming
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Speaker 1: from because when I was pregnant, I didn't feel ultra
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Speaker 1: comfortable showing off my bump.
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Speaker 2: There's some people that get these, I want to.
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Speaker 1: Use inverted commas around it, designer bumps that you see
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Speaker 1: them everywhere on influencers or models. It's just a little
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Speaker 1: bump and you can't tell the rest of them is pregnant.
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Speaker 1: And that doesn't necessarily mean that you're fitter or healthier
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Speaker 1: than someone. That's just how your body holds onto weight
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Speaker 1: and And a growing baby. Also, a lot of women
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Speaker 1: have a lot of fluid in their face, which makes
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Speaker 1: them feel not like themselves. I've seen on TikTok a
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Speaker 1: lot of women saying also that they get pregnancy nose
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Speaker 1: and a lot of their features just look different and
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Speaker 1: they don't feel like themselves. So I think that that
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Speaker 1: is why it's particularly jarring to see someone saying, oh.
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Speaker 2: Look, this is an optical illusion. Everything else about me
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Speaker 2: looks exactly the same except my little bump.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I held a lot of fluid in
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Speaker 1: my face towards the end and I only realized now
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Speaker 1: that I'm not pregnant.
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Speaker 2: Looking back at your wedding.
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Speaker 1: Photos, I was like, my face looks completely different. But
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Speaker 1: that's just what happens when you get pregnant. You are
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Speaker 1: creating life inside of your body. You are allowed to
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Speaker 1: look different. It's just ridiculous. And if you don't look different,
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Speaker 1: that's also fine. But it does make me feel a
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Speaker 1: little bit uncomfortable. The fact that Sarah is using these
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Speaker 1: opportunities to constantly plug her fitness program. It's not a
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Speaker 1: cheap guide. It costs $ 120. And it seems like at
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Speaker 1: every opportunity, she is making sure people know, I look
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Speaker 1: like this pregnant because of this fitness guide. And it
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Speaker 1: really is playing on people's vulnerabilities because I don't think
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Speaker 1: that there's a more vulnerable time in a lot of
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Speaker 1: women's life than when they're pregnant because so much is
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Speaker 1: happening to them hormonally. They don't look like they once
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Speaker 1: did and they'll probably try anything to get an ounce
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Speaker 1: of that back. Yeah, and it does concern me for
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Speaker 1: what Sarah is going to be like postpartum because last
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Speaker 1: pregnancy she was accused of pushing bounce back culture. Now
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Speaker 1: that she actually has her guide out there, I think
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Speaker 1: it's only gonna be worse. Yeah, I really hope that
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Speaker 1: we don't see body checks. That is my least favorite
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Speaker 1: thing to see online. It is never helpful for anyone.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why people put it out there unless
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Speaker 1: it's a flex for them. Well, it is only a
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Speaker 1: matter of days before she has this baby, if not today.
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Speaker 1: Do you think she's gonna update her followers? My feeling
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Speaker 1: is that she'll do a bit of a cryptic update
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Speaker 1: like she did when she was in labor with Malachi.
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Speaker 1: So from memory, she took a photo online in the car.
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Speaker 1: I think it was very late at the time and
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Speaker 1: they were heading into the hospital and she did a
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Speaker 1: couple of emojis referencing clues to Malachi's name. I think
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Speaker 1: we'll get something similar to that. We might get a
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Speaker 1: few photos of her in labor, but she will keep
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Speaker 1: a lot of it for her YouTube channel, I think,
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Speaker 1: and also TikTok.
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Speaker 2: I love how you say it's cryptic. Like she was
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Speaker 2: literally on the way to the hospital. It's not ultra cryptic. Well,
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Speaker 2: it was cryptic in the sense of she was still
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Speaker 2: trying to tease about his name. Oh, I see. I
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Speaker 2: think differently.
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Speaker 1: I think that because this is her last pregnancy and
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Speaker 1: she's really trying to crack TikTok, I think that she's
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Speaker 1: going to post live updates, a little bit how Indy
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Speaker 1: Clinton did. So Indy Clinton was popping TikToks up as
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Speaker 1: she was at the hospital and in labor. I think
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Speaker 1: Sarah is going to want to copy that.
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Speaker 2: I just freaking hope that this process helps me.
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Speaker 1: Over the weekend, Steph Claire Smith revealed she would be
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Speaker 1: sharing a life update on her latest podcast episode, which
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Speaker 1: would air on Monday. Now, she broke the news first
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Speaker 1: to her broadcast channel before sharing this statement on her
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Speaker 1: Instagram story on Sunday. She wrote, so tomorrow on the
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Speaker 1: kick pod, I'll be sharing something relatively fresh, but really
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Speaker 1: important to me. It's something I've been working through for
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Speaker 1: quite some time now, and in ways the journey's only
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Speaker 1: just begun. I'd really appreciate you listening with kindness as
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Speaker 1: it's something I've been nervous to share.
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Speaker 2: All my love, kiss, kiss, kiss.
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Speaker 1: As soon as I saw this, I was like, what
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Speaker 1: is going on? This must be a huge life update.
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Speaker 1: And it did lead to a lot of speculation and
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Speaker 1: theories online. The most popular theory was that Steph and
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Speaker 1: her husband, Josh, were breaking up. Now, I knew this
17:00
Speaker 1: wasn't true because Steph has been posting with him as normal.
17:03
Speaker 1: They're actually away on a weekend together. I actually thought
17:06
Speaker 1: there could have been some validity to those theories, particularly
17:09
Speaker 1: because Josh was holidaying with his friends in Europe without
17:13
Speaker 1: Steph just a couple of weeks ago. And the only
17:15
Speaker 1: times I saw Josh pop up on Steph's Instagram story
17:18
Speaker 1: were when they were out and about with Harvey. And
17:20
Speaker 1: I thought, well, perhaps they're just being amicable and showing
17:23
Speaker 1: that they're joint parenting. I love that they're parents. And
17:26
Speaker 1: so they're going to be with their child all the time.
17:27
Speaker 1: But you thought that. What?
17:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're parents. Of course, they're going to be
17:31
Speaker 2: out with their child all the time.
17:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not like we were seeing content of
17:34
Speaker 1: them at home together or them going out on dates
17:37
Speaker 1: or anything like that. I know it's difficult when you
17:39
Speaker 1: have a child, but I thought that there could be
17:42
Speaker 1: some truth to it, particularly... in the way that she
17:44
Speaker 1: let in that she was very nervous about and it's
17:46
Speaker 1: something that she's been working through. The other theory was
17:49
Speaker 1: that she could be opening up about fertility issues or
17:52
Speaker 1: even a health scare. Now, this came off the back
17:54
Speaker 1: of Steph sharing a post of her in the car
17:58
Speaker 1: saying that there was a lot going on in her
17:59
Speaker 1: life and you never know what's going on behind the scenes.
18:02
Speaker 1: She looked quite sad in the photo and this has
18:04
Speaker 1: been worrying a lot of her followers. Yeah, in the post,
18:07
Speaker 1: she said, there's a lot happening behind the scenes at
18:10
Speaker 1: the moment, things bringing a multitude of emotions on.
18:13
Speaker 2: But I'm okay.
18:14
Speaker 1: So grateful for my beautiful friends and family. Teared up
18:17
Speaker 1: today thinking about it. You never know what someone's got
18:19
Speaker 1: going on.
18:20
Speaker 2: Just remember that.
18:21
Speaker 1: And if you have got something at the moment, lean
18:24
Speaker 1: on your loved ones, give them the opportunity to be
18:26
Speaker 1: there for you. Because I know a lot of us
18:28
Speaker 1: feel like we need to figure it out on our own,
18:30
Speaker 1: but you don't.
18:31
Speaker 2: Lots of love. Hope your weekend is filled with joy.
18:33
Speaker 1: To me, I was like, oh my God, there is
18:35
Speaker 1: something drastic going on in her life.
18:38
Speaker 2: And I felt a lot of sympathy for her.
18:40
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, someone actually hit the nail on the head
18:43
Speaker 1: in our Facebook group. They said, watch, it will be
18:45
Speaker 1: something totally underwhelming again. Now this is in reference to
18:48
Speaker 1: Kik's promo about their concierge service. Yeah. And that's the
18:52
Speaker 1: issue when you really do breadcrumb information like this and
18:55
Speaker 1: hype it up in order for people to consume something.
18:59
Speaker 1: So in this case, it's clear that Steph and Laura
19:01
Speaker 1: wanted their audience to all tune into this episode. And
19:05
Speaker 1: in the episode, Steph revealed that she has ADHD. Let's
19:09
Speaker 1: throw to some of what she said.
19:11
Speaker 2: I have a bit of a life update for everyone.
19:13
Speaker 3: For me, I've spent the whole last decade of my
19:16
Speaker 3: life publicly online and I've always been really open about
19:19
Speaker 3: what's going on in my life. And I just feel
19:21
Speaker 3: like with this, it's been something that's been taking up
19:24
Speaker 3: a lot of my mental capacity. Just the other week,
19:26
Speaker 3: I was diagnosed with ADHD. It was probably about over
19:28
Speaker 3: a year ago now where I started to get curious
19:31
Speaker 3: about it.
19:31
Speaker 1: Now, in terms of making this announcement, Steph said it
19:34
Speaker 1: felt inauthentic not to share the news as she's been
19:36
Speaker 1: sharing her life online for 10 years now. And then
19:39
Speaker 1: she went on to speak about why she got assessed
19:42
Speaker 1: and also how she went about it, as well as
19:44
Speaker 1: how she felt during the process. Now, Steph said that
19:47
Speaker 1: she expected to cop criticism and also understand support. And
19:51
Speaker 1: she said that she actually shared the news to help others. Look,
19:54
Speaker 1: I am all for Steph telling her story about her diagnosis.
19:59
Speaker 1: And I agree, it probably will help others who maybe
20:02
Speaker 1: feel alone. And it is a serious thing. What I
20:05
Speaker 1: take issue with though, is breadcrumbing this information and trying
20:09
Speaker 1: to hype it up and clickbait it. That's what I
20:11
Speaker 1: don't feel comfortable with. Yeah, I think it's very commendable
20:14
Speaker 1: for Steph to open up about her diagnosis, but I
20:17
Speaker 1: also think it would have been a lot more powerful
20:19
Speaker 1: if she didn't tease it for clickbait, especially when there
20:22
Speaker 1: have been so many high profile women talking openly about
20:26
Speaker 1: having ADHD.
20:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been.
20:28
Speaker 1: Something we've seen spoken about, particularly about women's experiences over
20:32
Speaker 1: the past two years. even to the point where there's
20:34
Speaker 1: been a lot of jokes and ridicule on TikTok that
20:37
Speaker 1: everyone thinks that they have ADHD because it seems to
20:39
Speaker 1: be popular at the moment.
20:41
Speaker 2: So maybe that's where Steph's hesitation and worry came from.
20:44
Speaker 1: She didn't want people to feel like she was jumping
20:47
Speaker 1: on some sort of trend, which I hate to call
20:48
Speaker 1: it a trend because it's not.
20:49
Speaker 2: Well, she did talk about that on her stories afterwards.
20:52
Speaker 1: So she said she had a bit of an oversharing hangover,
20:56
Speaker 1: but it really seemed to rile her up because she
20:59
Speaker 1: did cop negativity. So One person wrote, oh, spare me.
21:02
Speaker 1: Everyone has ADHD these days.
21:04
Speaker 2: It's a scale.
21:05
Speaker 1: Chase a diagnosis and you'll find it. Now that comment
21:08
Speaker 1: had 64 likes. Someone else wrote, does actually every member
21:11
Speaker 1: of the population have it? As I've never heard of
21:14
Speaker 1: anyone not diagnosed with it when being tested. Ever since
21:17
Speaker 1: the kick pod took a new direction, Steph and Laura
21:20
Speaker 1: have opened themselves up to a lot more criticism because
21:23
Speaker 1: a lot of the material and information they share about
21:26
Speaker 1: their lives now is very clickbaity. Every time I see
21:31
Speaker 1: a reel promoting their podcast, they are talking about very
21:35
Speaker 1: personal details, either about their sex life or controversial arguments
21:40
Speaker 1: with their partners. Yeah, well, when I tuned into this episode,
21:43
Speaker 1: the first thing Laura shared with everyone was that she
21:45
Speaker 1: had thrush. And then she went into this very personal
21:49
Speaker 1: conversation that she and her husband Dalton had about how
21:52
Speaker 1: he had asked if they could have sex that day.
21:55
Speaker 1: And she said, no, she had thrush. And then he said, oh,
21:58
Speaker 1: what about your mouth? And then she said, I've got
22:00
Speaker 1: a cold sore. And then he said, what about your hand?
22:02
Speaker 1: And then they started laughing about how hand jobs seem
22:05
Speaker 1: very high school. I was actually blown away. And I'm
22:09
Speaker 1: not trying to shame Laura for talking about her sex life.
22:12
Speaker 1: I think it's great that people are open about their
22:14
Speaker 1: sex life. But surely there is a line when it
22:15
Speaker 1: comes to sharing those types of details about a conversation
22:18
Speaker 1: that you've had with your husband. I think particularly because
22:21
Speaker 1: you don't have any of the tone of that conversation,
22:23
Speaker 1: because that could be taken out of context.
22:25
Speaker 2: And look particularly bad upon him.
22:28
Speaker 1: Like it sounded like he was really pushing for it
22:30
Speaker 1: when she was clearly saying no. Yeah, it made me
22:31
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable because yeah, there definitely wasn't much context given.
22:35
Speaker 1: And we have spoken about this previously, but the way
22:39
Speaker 1: that Laura speaks about her husband isn't really in a
22:41
Speaker 1: very glowing light. Like I would not be impressed if
22:43
Speaker 1: I was Dalton, particularly the information that she shares about
22:46
Speaker 1: their sex life.
22:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like they're selling their souls for this podcast.
22:50
Speaker 1: And I kind of don't understand it because they already
22:52
Speaker 1: have an absolutely flourishing business Their Kick app is fantastic.
22:57
Speaker 1: I have been using it for five years, I think
22:59
Speaker 1: even longer than that. They also have this amazing line
23:02
Speaker 1: of products in Woolworths. They're both huge influencers in their
23:05
Speaker 1: own right, but I feel like they are diluting their
23:07
Speaker 1: brand by putting out this podcast.
23:10
Speaker 2: I mean, it must be making them enough money for
23:12
Speaker 2: them to do it. I'm the executive creative director, chief
23:16
Speaker 2: buyer and lifestyle coordinator. It's a huge responsibility.
23:20
Speaker 3: I'm very important.
23:22
Speaker 1: Let's get into our highs and lows of the week.
23:24
Speaker 1: My high and low are actually intertwined. So my best,
23:27
Speaker 1: of course, is returning to the podcast for maternity leave.
23:31
Speaker 1: It's hard to get my head around the fact that
23:33
Speaker 1: it's been 18 weeks. It feels like I've never left.
23:36
Speaker 1: And then also it feels like I've had this whole
23:38
Speaker 1: other life. Ironically, you can probably hear Jack crying in
23:41
Speaker 1: the background because we're recording from my house. So I
23:44
Speaker 1: am at the moment trying to balance motherhood and being
23:47
Speaker 1: back on the podcast. And that's why it's my low
23:50
Speaker 1: as well, because I do miss Jack when I'm not
23:52
Speaker 1: around him. We had a babysitter the other day. Thank you, mom,
23:55
Speaker 1: for looking after him. And it was so sad and
23:57
Speaker 1: it was so nice to come home to him and
23:59
Speaker 1: see him. And I feel so lucky that I've got
24:01
Speaker 1: the flexibility where I can work during his nap time
24:04
Speaker 1: or when Reese is home or if we've got a babysitter.
24:07
Speaker 1: But it is just so sad to leave him when
24:09
Speaker 1: I have to go to work. Yeah, I feel like
24:10
Speaker 1: we've got a bit of a co-host happening in the
24:12
Speaker 1: background with his cute little crying. But it is really
24:15
Speaker 1: nice to have you back on the show. I'm going
24:17
Speaker 1: to get into my high of the week. And it
24:18
Speaker 1: has been discovering an incredible Christmas appeal, which is called
24:22
Speaker 1: It's In The Bag. And it's run by a charity
24:25
Speaker 1: called Share the Dignity Australia. And it encourages people to
24:28
Speaker 1: put together bags filled with essential items and also some
24:32
Speaker 1: luxury items for women and girls who are spending their
24:35
Speaker 1: Christmas in a domestic violence refuge or a homeless shelter.
24:39
Speaker 1: My husband's auntie has been making bags for this charity
24:42
Speaker 1: for quite some time now, and it's just such a
24:44
Speaker 1: beautiful thing to do to make someone else's Christmas morning
24:47
Speaker 1: a little bit brighter. It's really easy to get involved,
24:50
Speaker 1: and you can either put together an adult, teen, or
24:53
Speaker 1: mum and bub bag. They do ask for the bags
24:56
Speaker 1: to be filled with essential items, and then the rest
24:58
Speaker 1: is up to you. And once you've made your bag,
25:00
Speaker 1: you can then easily drop it off at your local
25:02
Speaker 1: Bunnings store between the 15th of November and the 1st
25:05
Speaker 1: of December. I know everyone might not be in the
25:08
Speaker 1: position to do so, but if you are, I would
25:10
Speaker 1: highly recommend getting involved because the charity was down 100,000
25:15
Speaker 1: bags last year and they did not meet the requests
25:18
Speaker 1: of those who needed them.
25:19
Speaker 2: So I think we should all try and get behind them.
25:21
Speaker 1: My low of the week, and I think that this
25:23
Speaker 1: will be a low shared by many others, is is
25:26
Speaker 1: Liam Payne's tragic passing. We spoke on Tuesday's episode in
25:30
Speaker 1: depth about what happened and our complex feelings towards it.
25:35
Speaker 1: But I just still can't shake the feeling of being sad.
25:38
Speaker 1: I've been listening to a lot of One Direction in
25:39
Speaker 1: the car, which has been bringing me a bit of
25:42
Speaker 1: happiness and joy, particularly because Liam sings so many of
25:46
Speaker 1: the verses. And I think that all of us are
25:48
Speaker 1: holding a bit of a heavy heart this week because
25:51
Speaker 1: of it. Now that is all we have time for today.
25:53
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us for this episode.
25:56
Speaker 1: If you have enjoyed it, could you please make sure
25:58
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