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DA CREW PODCAST SEASON 1| EPISODE #163| HOST PATRICE GRIMBALL · DA CREW Podcast

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  are you as I did your have? So y'all heard it. Y'all heard
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  the careless whisper. Y'all heard it. You heard it? So you know
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  what time it is. It is time for you to meet a brand new
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  author here on sc Book Guts and Friends Chats. We hope everyone had a
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  blessing and beautiful Thanksgiving. I did with all of my family and friends.
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  So you know, yesterday it was Black Friday, and you know, for
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  the literary world, we do Black Friday almost every day. So go ahead
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  and get your pencils and your papers ready because I'm gonna introduce you to an
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  author so that you can add her to your back Friday. It's okay.
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  All I'm gonna say is African American Mystery. You don't have that to often,
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  you know. I'm thinking maybe one out of a hundred books. But
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  now we got this young lady right here, Miss Shanty James, and she
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  is going to talk about her book. Who the Locked Room? We're going
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  to try to unlock the room tonight, you guys. Okay, hello,
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  miss James, how are you hi. I'm fantastic. Thank you so much
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  for having me. I appreciate it, all right. So of course she
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  got to start the night out. You got to tell us a little bit
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  about yourself. Okay. So I feel like I have three buckets. The
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  first one is that I teach. I love to teach. I've been at
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  Penn State Harsburg for about a minute now, so I'm just blessed to be
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  able to disseminate information and then to see people grow. I mean that,
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  I just love it. So teaching is one of my colleagues. The second
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  thing that I do is that I have a podcast entitled Women in Justice.
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  So here's a platform where I can show my activism. I bring in different
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  speakers to show case what they do. So I'm a textbook girl at heart.
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  I always say to people, I'm going to bring the book to you,
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  and that what's great about the podcast is that I pair with someone who's
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  doing that work. So the combination of the textbook and the experientials to me
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  where you really find out information. And then the last bucket that I have
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  is that I do research and I write. So I've been published on a
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  lot of journals, a lot of book reviews, and then I do fiction
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  and nonfiction. So it is just two different wheelhouses doing the fiction and nonfixtion.
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  And it's different when you're in the We call it the pure academic arena
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  and the commercial side because if you talk to some people in the academic world,
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  I've sold my soul by publishing and the commercial side, which I found
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  funny, but it's just another way to disseminate. So those are kind of
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  three areas associated with me. Okay, So I work at a library half
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  the eighteen years, and what you said it was just popping in my mind,
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  like, boy, how does she even live with those two worlds battling
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  against each other? Oh my god, how do you How do you do
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  it? It's a tight, stressful walk in the sense that when you write,
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  you are very vulnerable, so you already kind of put your soul and
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  your heart out there, and then to have people say, Okay, I
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  like this, I don't like this. It can be daunting at times,
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  but I'm very aware that I'm very blessed. But like again, I said,
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  you you have some critics, and you have you know. And on
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  the other end, you have people who love what I do, and they'll
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  read something that I've written in a journal and then go and read something that
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  I've written in the fiction world. So there's pluses and minuses to it.
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  And that's the craziest part about it, because at work, I've had individuals
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  come in and they're like, I don't understand why they have this booked here
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  with this half nigked person on the cover. They should only have non fiction
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  books. And I'm like, I don't want to read about true life all
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  the time. I need to step away in somebody's fantasy world, you know
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  what I'm saying. So I totally understand in my hats off for you,
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  and I'm sorry that they kind of put you. I always thinking of it
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  as it's it's a dance. So it's kind of like being invited to a
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  party. So at a party, you just kind of go in and sometimes
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  I'm dancing. I'm like, oh I'm good, and I'm like, no,
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  I don't mention anybody. There's a lot to do it. But you
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  know, it's just attending a different party. So the more parties you can
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  go to, the better. I think. I love that. I love
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  that comparacy. That's beautiful. So let's step let's step into this book.
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  Okay, yes, the locker room. Okay, So it's a mystery.
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  Uh, it's a spoof off going into a locked room. So typically when
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  you go into a locker room that lock you in, they give you some
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  clues and you try to figure it out. So I was like, okay,
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  being you know, a minority author, it never works out there way.
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  It just don't work out that way, You're right. I was like,
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  okay, let's let's bring them into the room. They all know each
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  other, which you know is true to you kind of go into a locker
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  room. And typically too for some locker rooms, you might they might need
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  five people and you have three. So they met you with different people,
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  but in this one, they all know each other. Okay, they think,
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  well they think and oh and by the way, there's a dead body
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  in the room. So it's just no, you just can't go slipping in
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  that there's a dead hold on, how are you just gonna say that?
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  Okay? Oh yeah, boy the way there's a dead body in there's a
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  dead body, and there's a dead body in the room. So uh,
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  to kind of step people back just a little bit, just a little,
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  just a little bit, because I want you to go out to get it.
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  There's a few key things. One, it's really short, so every
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  time it's a series, it's a Tea Taylor mystery series. So every November
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  the fourteenth, I will always write, so we'll come out every year.
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  So this is the first year. It's always gonna be short, so you
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  literally can go get it, read it, and then you know, if
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  you're like me, if when a book's good, I'm like in the bathroom,
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  going leave me alone and reading this book. So I wrote it with
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  yeah, I wrote it with that purpose in mind. And then it's a
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  relationship between an aunt and a niece. So that's a relationship you typically don't
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  see. So I have been blessed to have a ton of nieces and nephews,
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  So it's my tip of my hat to them, the dynamics of how
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  they see me and how I see them because I'm the aunt that it's just
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  like, well, you know, she's gonna do what she's gonna do.
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  I'm going to have that type of relationship. And then the other backdrop for
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  the book too, which you know, as we're going through edits, I
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  realized that people just don't have this type of relationship is the relationship between friends
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  and family. So what I've been blessed with is a group of a circle
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  around me that's gonna tell me, hey, I really don't like that unicorn
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  hat you got on? Why they got to There's a couple of things there
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  too, Because why do I have that unicorn hat? On? Is the
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  first question. Wow, Okay, they're gonna tell you. But what's great
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  about it is if I decide that I am gonna wear that unicorn hat,
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  they're gonna stand behind me and say, this is the best unicorn hat we've
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  ever seen. So it showcases that relationship. You know, they're gonna tell
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  you the truth. But when we're out in company, or in front of
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  people, they're be like, no, that's the best hat. So it
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  shows the dynamics and relationships of true friends, because you know, we've all
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  seen someone on the show and of your list like what they have no friends?
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  You know. And when we were in editing, quite a few of
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  the editors like, hey, my friend wouldn't say that. I was like,
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  no, a true friend would say would say it right? To say
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  right? So you're saying that every November fourteenth, is that that day?
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  Can we act? Why that day? We wanted to And it's stemming off
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  the first fiction book that I wrote. We wanted to make sure that there
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  was something that I was always giving back. And I knew that this was
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  my gift to people who supported me. This was my gift to my family.
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  This was a gift to having my father for you know, just giving
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  me the platform to be able to do this. So every year you just
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  kind of it's a toast to that time period to say, hey, if
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  I want to get away, I can read this. Hey if I want
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  to, you know, it's kind of like going to visit old friend.
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  And I wanted to make sure that it was consistent. I love that because
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  some authors. Yes, authors, I'm gonna get in your office. Don't
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  be writing these five star page turners. And then we got to wait four
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  or five years for the next book to come out. That is the most
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  irritating thing. And I don't know how many authors I have had done that.
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  They wrote this wonderful book, and I'm like, all right, part
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  two, and they writing all these other part part two. Here go another
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  book Part two. Man, hold up, stop writing everything else and give
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  me a part two please. So I love that that that November fourteen,
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  you always know every year that there is going to be another connection. I
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  love that is so creative. I love that. Yes, Okay, so
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  I have to say, with my first fiction book, though, which is
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  Murdered Secret Secrets among Colleagues, the part two has to come out to that
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  one. So I have to say I'm halfway on that bus with that one.
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  That was the first one I did by myself, because my very first
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  book was a nonfiction. Okay, so that one's coming out. So for
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  the people who have gotten that one, there's no need to email me that
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  one's coming because I've gotten that email already and be like, Okay, you're
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  great. I'm happy you got this new one out. I have done that.
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  I have done that to often to be like, all right, I'm
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  so happy you got all these other books. So you're helping everybody else.
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  But can I finally figure what's gonna go on with this character? One lady
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  told me, she said, I stopped breknant. Seriously, how are you
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  gonna leave the what? How you gonna leave me? Like that? Like
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  this is a friendship that broke up. Yeah, okay, okay, cool,
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  cool, I'm not so why mystery of all genres? Why mystery?
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  Okay? So it started with you know, I've been in the education since
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  y'all was in kindergarten. So I always say to people I've never left school,
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  Like I went in and I haven't left. I kept getting a degree,
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  getting a degree. Oh wow, I haven't left. So I said
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  to my aunt and she and I want to give you know, dedication to
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  her. She recently classed away. I was just like, hey, you
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  know, I'm always doing stuff for the academic world. You know, it's
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  pretty daunting. Is tiring, you know, because could I get one more
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  review from somebody and then they you know, ultimately they published it. When
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  you I mean to get to the published day is it's interesting, I'll say
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  that. So she was like, hey, we go to you know,
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  your childhood was based upon us going to book clubs mysteries. Why don't you
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  just write one. And I was just like, oh, okay, well
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  you know, hey, yeah all right. And then you know, I
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  kept writing it and and she kept giving me feedback. That's the best gift
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  a writer can get someone to, you know, read a few pages be
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  like well I don't see this, or hey I kind of see this,
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  or maybe you need her to turn around. It was just fantastic and it
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  was such a blessing to be able to have that time with her. That
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  was the best gift she could have given to me. Just a time and
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  us laughing and joking and we were over zoom. Oh yeah. So I
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  always say to people, don't underestimate zoom FaceTime. I would encourage you to
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  with family that's far away. It was just great. So that's how I
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  got I love mysteries. But she really motivated me to say, well,
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  come on, you can do it. And I was just like okay,
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  And then you know, you start putting some stuff on the paper and then
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  you're like, oh, okay, wait, a minute. This isn't you
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  know. And then all I had to do was, in my mind make
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  her happy. So if the two of us were happy, then we were
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  good to go. And then that's how I kind of I'm jump in the
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  deep end girl. So an author that takes feedback, yes, the most
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  beautiful thing in the world and take it to the point of understanding it is
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  beautiful. I've had some authors when I've done the book review really got mad
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  at me, and I'm like, yo, it's just my opinion. The
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  next person might think you have to think the best thing next to the Bible.
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  But the fact that you were able to take that feedback and incorporate it
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  into the book, you know, no, use it, don't use it,
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  baggar, you do it, you do it. So I loved it
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  so and it was fun because I knew that she was coming from a good
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  place, like she wasn't there to hurt me. And I think sometimes when
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  we're dialoguing with people, I think we've lost that for some reason. I'm
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  not sure why, but you sound like you're similar to me in the sense
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  that you love to go to book groups because we're talking about the book.
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  Oh no, no, they're so my library, I love them. I
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  loved them. They got this running joke because I'm I'm boxed in. I
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  read a lot of African American urban but I will read other genres. Well,
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  my first name is Patrice and my professional last name right now Smith David.
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  Get so funny because there's so many Smiths. They'll be putting it off
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  the wall books on my desk top of join a book club and it'd be
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  like, like, fifty shades agree, I'm not reading that or other ones
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  be the honest people in the world. So it's I totally understand where you're
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  coming from. You said this about your childhood, and that leads into my
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  next question. Okay, who was your favorite as a child author? Okay,
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  because someone asked me that before. I honestly I just loved to read,
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  so I cannot say someone's my favorite. I feel like I would be
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  doing and you know all the different books that I read because I read across
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  a large spectrum of authors, people's articles, different things. So I think
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  what is creates a clearer picture of me is I'm the type of person that
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  if I moved to an area or I get a job somewhere, I'm gonna
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  get my ID for the location. But the next step is I'm gonna get
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  my ID at the line. So that tells you who I am. Okay.
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  So then the next piece that I think is important in kind of shaping
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  who I am is that I've realized so many people put things into place for
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  me to be standing here today, whether we're looking at a Barbara Neili,
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  whether we're looking at at Edwards. There's times there's so many different authors that
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  I'm standing on their back, and I hope and pray that over time there'll
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  be someone to say they're standing on my back to ensure that I have the
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  opportunity. Because double day they signed their first African American author in ninety two.
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  I mean to say, I mean just for me, especially in this
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  genre, to know so that was ninety two. I mean, it's not
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  like this was what this was so long ago. No, No, this
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  is just it's just profound. If you step back and think about how many
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  people had to go in different offices and say there's a market hear my voice.
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  I'm a storyteller. I have something to offer, you know. No,
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  I don't sound like this other person, and I'm not supposed to I
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  think that's the other thing that I want to make sure that people here,
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  they provide a place, a place for my voice to be heard, whether
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  you like it or not. I always said people you know me, you
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  know, festivals and stuff. I'm like, the big thing is, hey,
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  you like it, you don't, Okay, that's great. The dialogue
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  is the key in allowing the voices to be heard. That's that's the crazy
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  You did that and I heard that, but I didn't know if that was
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  true, but the nineteen ninety two. But we're gonna at a library.
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  Yeah, I see why some people have to create how they say, create
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  their table. Yes, And now that's like one of the biggest things when
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  it comes to black and brown and Latino, all these other races. They're
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  starting to create their own tables in the literary world. Because, let's be
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  honest, it was just the older white men and the older white women and
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  we just were bounced around. So I applaud you for that and too say,
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  hey, you know what, this is me. This is my genre.
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  Take me or leave me, I'll take you. Every November fourteen,
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  do you ever see yourself writing a book for kids? Little kids? No?
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  I just I mean I've seen that mark. And you know, every
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  once in a while i'll be at a festival, I'll be like, oh,
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  that's okay, Well maybe you know, but we said the same thing
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  about me looking at some other stuff and I was like no, and then
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  my hand, you know, she's like okay, So like next month,
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  we'll see, because the one thing that's coming out in the next two months
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  is I'm writing a dark mystery. And it's dark, like very like very
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  dark, like twisted dark. So you know, when you first kind of
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  enter this world and you know you're thinking about it, you have to at
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  least for me, this is how I write. You have to get into
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  the character. And I was just like, nah, I can't really go.
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  So then I start writing. I was like, this is kind of
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  easy hold on. She said, this is easy hold on. And where
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  you live at against make sure we don't knowing here, So that's cool.
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  So dark mystery, it's a dark mystery. So within mystery. The other
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  thing that I think that people just don't know there's so many genres in mysteries.
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  Like when you say mystery, people are like, oh, mystery,
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  and I'm like, no, it's actually it is a mystery. But it's
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  a cozy. And the people are like, well, what's a cozy?
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  You know, you know, what's a crime ficure? You know. I'm
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  like, okay, so, yes, yes, we just had a convention
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  down here in Charleston maybe about once a month, maybe two months ago,
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  and it was called the Cozy Mystery, and I'm like, Cozy Mystery.
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  And then I saw the thinking, yes there, you can kill them,
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  you can love them, you can steal a book, you can steal a
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  cat, the dog, and all this kind of stuff, and I was
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  like, okay, okay, so y'all all over the police very much so.
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  And even in the cozies, there's different distinctions within the cozy. So
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  uh, it's just it's interesting. And I think the more people are exposed
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  to the difference, it makes it interesting to me, or makes it it
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  Bron's your scope would be a better way to phrase it. You are so
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  correct. So now, my friend, we gonna have us some fun.
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  Okay, I'm not showing that, but okay, if you just know and
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  you go when you watch my shows, y'all know my second half I always
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  got them crazy questions. Suck in the book a locker room, you said,
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  as a dead body. Yes, who would have killed if you can
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  choose one of these killers that we have, Jason, chucky it. What's
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  the other one, Freddy, if you can choose any of them, who
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  would have killed that person in the room. Okay, Oh, I'm scared
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  the way you just look like this, no, because you know, I
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  thought you didn't say Michael Myers, so you want to chat. So I'm
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  kind of like, I'm Michael Myers, but I'm a big fan of because
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  they spoofed Scream, the scream genre, and I was just like, oh
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  maybe, yeah, so there's where the hesitation was, and there's where to
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  me that little dark comes in where you're like, oh, this is what
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  I know to be true. And she put a little twist on Wow.
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  So Scream and Michael Myer. Yes, so uh, I would be a
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  little nervous for the dark book that's coming out and then, uh, but
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  for the locker Room, it's a very on the line of a cozy mystery,
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  and that is safe, you know, young people can read it,
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  but be a little nervous for the ones coming up. Okay, Okay,
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  so let's go, let's go take it a little further. Okay, your
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  main character. Their name is Okay, the two so it's Tea Taylor and
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  then aunt Ray aunt Ray. If you could choose any mother, television,
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  mom, moving mom, who would you choose? Now, let me tell
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  you who I chose. Okay, I chose Lynn Woodfield. Oh wait a
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  minute, which one? Okay, there's a couple of roles. That's why
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  I'm just like, wall, wait a minute. I'm thinking Lynn Woodfield Tyler
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  Harry when she was the mother? Okay, okay, okay, but I
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  think about it now, I'm thinking Lynn would feel when she was in wasn't
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  she in Beloved? Correct? No, that wasn't her. I'm not sure.
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  I don't think she was in Beloved, but I don't hold me to
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  it because I'm like, you know how you're going through your head and you're
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  just like, wait a minute. Yes, I think Lynn would feel because
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  I get a little no, no, no, We're good. I think
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  for me for this book, I would Felicia Rashad educated, that domineering,
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  but also that fun loving, because that's how aunt Ray is loyal to her
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  family, loyal to her niece, loyal to her friends. So I would
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  probably jump into the Cosby and then okay, so I was thinking at first
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  for Lin Woodfield. Okay, I was thinking Diane Carroll when she was playing
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  Whitney's mom in a different world. Okay, okay, okay, no,
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  No, that's another good one. Yes, very much. Especially with all
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  the books that I write, especially to fictions, I think it's important for
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  people to see the characters as educated, you know, especially people reading it
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  to say, okay, educated individuals come in different shades. So it's the
• 27:38
  interesting thing about the fiction the Murder miss because it's set on a college campus.
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  But one of the things, and I do this with all the books,
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  there's always several twists. So one of the twists from the second book
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  is I never assigned them racial categories. Oh I never do. But when
• 28:02
  I talk to people after they read it, they have which I find very
• 28:07
  interesting. I just find that very interesting. You know, I'll be talking
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  to them and they'll say, hey, well, such and such as this,
• 28:15
  and I was like, I didn't say that. One of the things
• 28:22
  that I always tell people is whether it's me or another author, I would
• 28:26
  strongly encourage you to contact that author to have a session, whether it's you
• 28:33
  or the book club, to hear well what went into the book because in
• 28:41
  all minds, I take what you know to be true, because the academic
• 28:44
  doesn't leave. I take what you know to be true. And I twisted
• 28:48
  like the first one. If you were to kind of category it was crime
• 28:52
  fiction. Most people haven't heard of a crime When you say crime fiction,
• 28:55
  they're like, what this one? You know? It is a mystery and
• 28:59
  both them the both mysteries. But it has that cozy feel to it.
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  But I put some twists on that cozy because cozy's have rules and it's interesting
• 29:08
  talk to the author, like I didn't know until I got into it.
• 29:12
  There's rules to you know, having you know, doing a cozy or doing
• 29:21
  a crime fiction. There's rules to it. You know, people who are
• 29:23
  faithful to their genre or say, well, you know, you broke rule
• 29:26
  five. I'll be like, yeah, you know what, I've had so
• 29:33
  much fun with you tonight. It's crazy. So we're got to tell everybody
• 29:37
  how they can contact you, how they can follow you, follow your podcast.
• 29:42
  Just give us everything we need to know about your miss chains. Okay,
• 29:47
  So for the podcast, it's entitled Women in Justice. You can get
• 29:52
  that on iHeart, Spotify, Apple, you name it, We're on it
• 29:56
  on the platform. So again it's just women and justice, taking what you
• 30:02
  know about women and twisting. And the biggest thing too is women are at
• 30:07
  the center. We're not an appendage. So that was really you know,
• 30:11
  here's that educational portion that was really important to me because usually males are the
• 30:15
  focus and then it's like, oh, by the way, she you know,
• 30:18
  now women are as a focus. The best way to reach me would
• 30:22
  be through social media, whether it's Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, or TikTok.
• 30:29
  Not very good on any of them, let's be clear, but I
• 30:33
  but I do have a presence. I do have a presence. The last
• 30:37
  way would be on the website, which would be the sites sites dot PSU,
• 30:42
  dot edu, backslash Chaunte James and that'll tell you all the events I
• 30:48
  have coming up. So I strongly, strongly encourage people to come out to
• 30:52
  the events. So you have the conversation because with the second book, did
• 30:57
  you realize that and put race it with this current book, there's some twist.
• 31:06
  Yeah, I know, I know, I know. So with all
• 31:08
  of them you can get them on Amazon. Let me encourage you, whether
• 31:14
  it's me, go and kind of branch out to other artists, authors,
• 31:21
  that you wouldn't normally go and get and then inngage with those individuals, whether
• 31:27
  it's giving them feed that's the best gift you can give them feedback on Amazon,
• 31:33
  feedback and person come out to hear them present, because that's that way
• 31:37
  they can come back again, just giving them the platform to come back again.
• 31:41
  Yes, and a lot of authors would love that, even if you're
• 31:44
  inbox them. Hey, I've read your books such and such. They actually
• 31:47
  loved that engagement back and forth. So Miss James, don't worry, You're
• 31:51
  gonna get plenty of engagement. All these clues and bombs you dropping on us
• 31:57
  tonight. Thank you for joining us on sc book thousand friends. You have
• 32:05
  a wonderful evening, and you know I've already got it. November fourteenth,
• 32:09
  Ye, good night's sweetheart. Later, thank you, You're welcome. So
• 32:19
  you guys, it is another night that is in the books, and I
• 32:22
  thank you guys for being here. But guess what, I'm coming back tomorrow
• 32:27
  night. And tomorrow you guys want to be here because we are going to
• 32:31
  have information about our twenty twenty four Awards show tomorrow night. I'm gonna tell
• 32:40
  you how you can nominate your favorite author, your favorite illustrator, your favorite
• 32:45
  author and different genres your favorite book. Just stay tuned because your favorite might
• 32:52
  be our twenty twenty four winner. Okay, you guys, have a wonderful
• 32:57
  night. From sci bookous and friends. I love you. Bye.