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The Late Debate | 12 February · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait wait, welcome wait tur Bay.
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  Speaker 2: Well thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. I'm
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  Speaker 2: James Macpherson with Freilich and Caleb Bond. Here's what's coming
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  Speaker 2: up tonight. Israel's president is in Melbourne but unable to
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  Speaker 2: visit the Fire bond Adas Synagogue due to security concerns.
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  Speaker 2: So what on earth has happened to our country? Plus
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  Speaker 2: you won't believe which country the UN has just appointed
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  Speaker 2: to promote democracy and gender equality, and the British Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister demands an apology after the co owner of Manchester
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  Speaker 2: United says the country's been colonized by immigrants. We'll get
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  Speaker 2: to all of that and more shortly, but first, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure you're familiar with the old expression if lefties didn't
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  Speaker 2: have double standards, well they'd have no standards at all.
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  Speaker 2: Case in point, the curious saga of singer Kelly Holiday.
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  Speaker 2: Now Kelly Holiday is not just a performer, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: he's also the boyfriend of that well known lefty podcaster
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  Speaker 2: Abbi Chatfield. Together there are a couple of social justice
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  Speaker 2: warriors in love, or maybe just a set of matching contradictions.
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  Speaker 2: So picture this the Australian Turf Club in their infinite wisdom,
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  Speaker 2: announced Kelly Holiday would perform at Royal Randwick this April
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  Speaker 2: as part of their bid to attract more young people
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  Speaker 2: to horse racing. But there was a tiny wrinkle in
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  Speaker 2: their plan. You see, just a few years ago, Kelly's
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  Speaker 2: other half, the ever enlightened Abby Chatfield, publicly mocked celebrities
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  Speaker 2: who dare set foot at the races, telling her a
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  Speaker 2: million plus followers she wouldn't be caught dead at Flemington,
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  Speaker 2: not for all the money in the world.
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  Speaker 3: Guys.
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  Speaker 4: I thought we were done with the races, like it
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  Speaker 4: Like I thought that like wasn't a thing anymore? Like
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  Speaker 4: why is so many people.
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  Speaker 3: Go in the races?
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  Speaker 4: What the hell dying at like random people's snarky dams
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  Speaker 4: being like, well even invited, yeahs offered money to go
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  Speaker 4: a lot of money, and I.
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  Speaker 2: Said, well. When that video resurfaced this week, Holiday suddenly
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  Speaker 2: found himself too busy to headline the Championships at Royal Randwick.
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  Speaker 2: After all, he's pulled out of the event. This CALEBN
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  Speaker 2: farras what we call the woke Shuffle, make bold proclamations
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  Speaker 2: about you won't do and then get caught cashing in
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  Speaker 2: on exactly the thing you publicly despised. It's beautiful, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Look as a racing man, I'm terribly disappointed that I
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  Speaker 3: won't be able to go and see mister Holiday performing
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  Speaker 3: on Day one of the Championships at Royal Randwick. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm also bitterly disappointed that I don't run into Abbey
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  Speaker 3: Chatfield when I go to the Melbourne carp Ord to
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  Speaker 3: Derby day down at Flemington.
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  Speaker 1: It has really ruined my.
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  Speaker 3: Day at the races. I have to tell you, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because he put out this song it went to number
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  Speaker 3: one last year, called Dancing two, which is about how
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  Speaker 3: he met Abby and the song sort of goes at
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  Speaker 3: the crucial bit I was dancing and you were dancing too. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it would seem in this case you were grifting and
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  Speaker 3: I was drifting.
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  Speaker 1: Too, because how do you not know?
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry you jump up and down about social justice
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  Speaker 3: and he said a lot of weird stuff, mister Holliday,
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  Speaker 3: including about people who went to the match for Australia
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  Speaker 3: Rallies who I think he said they should be in
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  Speaker 3: prison or worse. He would not clarify what worse meant,
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  Speaker 3: but I think we can all read between the lines.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what he thinks of, you know, hard working,
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  Speaker 3: every day Aussies who care about their country. Did he
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  Speaker 3: not think there might be a small problem in carrying
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  Speaker 3: on like that and then taking the money of a
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  Speaker 3: racing club which hits its money from people who go
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  Speaker 3: to the races. Oh my god, overable abuse of the
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  Speaker 3: roasting is these idiots all say, but anything for a dollar,
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  Speaker 3: I suppose, until you get caught out exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Honestly, I just don't know why anyone takes Abby Chatfield seriously.
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  Speaker 5: But this is the problem. She is massively influential among
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  Speaker 5: young women. There's been some internal polling done by a
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  Speaker 5: group that shows like twenty percent of young women in
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  Speaker 5: Australia get their political opinions from Abby Chatfield.
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  Speaker 6: That is terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: The viewers who preps don't know much about what's the
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  Speaker 2: appeal because you often see the craziness. What's the appeal
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  Speaker 2: for so many young women?
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  Speaker 5: Well, look, I don't really see it. She's blocked me
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  Speaker 5: on every social media platform after I made videos making
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  Speaker 5: fun of her. But I guess you know, she's relatable,
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  Speaker 5: she's pretty, she's quite articulate, she is an intelligent girl.
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  Speaker 5: But Oftentimes intelligent people can be extremely stupid. So she
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  Speaker 5: is someone She had the Prime Minister on her podcast
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  Speaker 5: just weeks before the election. In the podcast prior to that,
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  Speaker 5: she was talking about all sorts of lude sexual acts.
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  Speaker 5: She has a line of kinky sex toys and butt plugs.
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  Speaker 6: And it is genuinely say, first.
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  Speaker 3: Time that words ever been used on Sky.
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  Speaker 5: I think I am sorry to all the viewers at home,
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  Speaker 5: but this is the kind of person that is occupying
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  Speaker 5: a central plays any political discourse for young women.
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  Speaker 6: That is terrifying.
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  Speaker 2: Well, because she has so many followers, the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: doesn't care much. I suppose she's talked about. It's the
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  Speaker 2: audience that she generates that makes her valuable.
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  Speaker 3: And we saw that during the election campaign with Labor
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  Speaker 3: in particular. I think it was during the federal budget,
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  Speaker 3: wasn't it last year where they were getting influences involved
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  Speaker 3: in the coverage. Yes, and invited them to the budget
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  Speaker 3: lock up and treated them as though they were journalists.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, these people don't have a journalistic bone
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  Speaker 3: in their body.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have any qualifications.
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  Speaker 3: They never worked in a newsroom, haven't gone through a
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  Speaker 3: cadet ship, but they have audiences because they share their opinions.
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  Speaker 3: Of course you're within your rights to do that, but
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that you know how to deal with
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  Speaker 3: information that governments hand out and how to critically assess
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  Speaker 3: that and say, well this is right and this is wrong.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's just a conduit for governments to get
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  Speaker 3: out what they want to get out.
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  Speaker 2: So, as the racing expert quickly before we move on,
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  Speaker 2: is Kelly Holiday a loss to the racing and yoh
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  Speaker 2: performing absolutely not.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure the ATC will be able to get a
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  Speaker 3: much better act to perform on Day one of the Championships.
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to miss him, I can tell you
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  Speaker 1: that for free.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, as I always point out in
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  Speaker 3: these situations, all you anti racing people or thought we
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  Speaker 3: were gone with the races, go and look at how
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  Speaker 3: many people have been going to the Melbourne Cup and
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  Speaker 3: Derby Day over the last few years, or the whole
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  Speaker 3: of the Spring Carnival. The attendance numbers keep going up
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  Speaker 3: and the viewership numbers on TV keep going up. So
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  Speaker 3: it turns out that people are actually turning onto racing,
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  Speaker 3: they aren't turning off. Speaking of turning off, someone who
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  Speaker 3: sort of disappeared for a while sixty four days. In fact,
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  Speaker 3: we did not see her once on our television screens
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  Speaker 3: or anywhere in public at a press conference, anything like this.
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  Speaker 3: Sarah Hanson Young, the Green senator from South Australia, because
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  Speaker 3: on the tenth of December last year, you may remember,
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  Speaker 3: The Australian revealed that she had been using the partner
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  Speaker 3: or family travel entitlements in order to fly her husband,
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  Speaker 3: who is a lobbyist, from Adelaide to Canberra and back.
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  Speaker 3: And she had spent in the order of fifty grand
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  Speaker 3: flying her lobbyist husband to and from Canberra. And it
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  Speaker 3: raised all these questions, if he's lobbyists, he's in Canberra,
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  Speaker 3: is he doing any work up there?
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  Speaker 1: She was cleared of any wrongdoing in this.
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  Speaker 3: Situation, but still plenty of questions one might ask about
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  Speaker 3: why you would spend fifty grand flying your lobbyist husband,
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  Speaker 3: who is presumably earning a decent wage, whose job is
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  Speaker 3: to talk to politicians.
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  Speaker 1: To and from Canberra all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Sixty four days we have not heard a word from
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  Speaker 3: her and not seen her until today, Yes, the day
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  Speaker 3: we find out that the Liberal Party's implosion may be over,
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  Speaker 3: and they're going to change leaders.
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  Speaker 1: Huge news day in politics.
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  Speaker 3: Today is the day she's decided to resurface and tell
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  Speaker 3: us what actually happened. She says, I did nothing wrong,
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  Speaker 3: but I won't do it again.
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  Speaker 5: I've made a decision that going forward, I'm not going
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  Speaker 5: to use the entitlement because it's just not worth the
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  Speaker 5: stress and the attention that it.
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  Speaker 6: Brings on too families.
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  Speaker 1: Were those rules used in good faith in the.
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  Speaker 6: Past, Yeah, of course they were. They were always used
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  Speaker 6: in good faith, Yeah they were.
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  Speaker 3: Look, that's normally a regular spot that she does with
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  Speaker 3: Peter Stefanovic. But she's not popped up on Sky in
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  Speaker 3: her regular spot since the tenth of.
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  Speaker 1: December last year.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't it curious that, you know, when the rest of
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  Speaker 3: the political media is focused on other things, she's thought,
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  Speaker 3: now's the right time to make my re emergence into
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  Speaker 3: the world.
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  Speaker 2: I was fascinated by her reason for deciding she will
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  Speaker 2: no longer use the family travels allowance at all. She said, quote,
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  Speaker 2: it's not worth the stress and the attention to my family.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, she's the victim here. It's the public
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  Speaker 2: focus on her using the travel entitlements to fly her
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  Speaker 2: lobbyist husband to Canberra. That has caused stress to her
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  Speaker 2: and because of that, she's no longer going to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Not because it's you know, it's not wrong, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not really appropriate either, is it. She also said that
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  Speaker 2: community expectations have changed. I don't think community expectations change.
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  Speaker 2: I think senator expectations about what they can get away
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  Speaker 2: with have changed. Hence she's no longer going to be
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  Speaker 2: doing it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the dodgy thing here was that her
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  Speaker 5: husband's a lobbyist, so he's going down to Canberra, he's
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  Speaker 5: having all these meetings, he is making money, but then
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  Speaker 5: essentially asking taxpayers to pick up the bill for him
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  Speaker 5: to commute to work.
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  Speaker 6: That's not right.
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  Speaker 5: But I do think the travel entitlements for family reunions
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  Speaker 5: are a good thing. I think generally speaking, our politicians
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  Speaker 5: in this country are underpaid and undercompensated. It's a huge
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  Speaker 5: pay cut for most of them to enter parliament. It
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  Speaker 5: is very hard on your family life, especially if you're
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  Speaker 5: a parent with kids, and so I don't think we
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  Speaker 5: should just be bashing anyone that uses family entitlements. I agree,
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  Speaker 5: And this is where you know, of course, with anaka
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  Speaker 5: Wells flying her kids out for ski trips. That's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: But in principle, yes, of course your family should be
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  Speaker 5: able to join you in Canberra.
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  Speaker 2: But if you listen to.
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  Speaker 3: It's like if a couple of times a year the
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  Speaker 3: wife and kids come and visit you, or the husband
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  Speaker 3: and kids come and visit you in Canberra while you're working,
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  Speaker 3: that's fine.
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  Speaker 1: But when you're talking.
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  Speaker 3: About fifty grand worth of flights over a few years,
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  Speaker 3: or lean Anika Will's case, you know, a habby going
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  Speaker 3: down and back in one day to Melbourne to go
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  Speaker 3: to the footy or the cricket or something, it's not
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  Speaker 3: really within the spirit of the rules, even if no
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  Speaker 3: rules have been broke.
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  Speaker 2: Hanson Young flew her lobbyist husband to Canberra seventy eight times,
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  Speaker 2: and in that Sky interview we showed you a portion
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  Speaker 2: of it. She made out like the issue was the
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  Speaker 2: family reunion allowance itself, rather then specifically her husband was
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  Speaker 2: a lobbyist working in Canberra. She ought not have been
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  Speaker 2: doing that, and she spoke about the fact that it
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  Speaker 2: was within the rules. And that's absolutely true. But I
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  Speaker 2: had it when politicians defer to it, well, is it
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  Speaker 2: legal or is it within the rules. That's not really
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  Speaker 2: the question. The question is it appropriate. That's a better question,
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  Speaker 2: and clearly it's not appropriate, which is why she's been
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  Speaker 2: quiet for sixty four days and chosen today, of all days,
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  Speaker 2: to pop her head up and say, oh, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: going to do it anymore.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 5: And the problem is when people do abuse the system,
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  Speaker 5: they ruin it for everyone, including the people that are
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  Speaker 5: doing the right thing, but someone else or a group
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  Speaker 5: of people who are ruining something for everyone. Down in Melbourne,
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  Speaker 5: protesters are going wild, similar to what we saw here
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  Speaker 5: in Sydney the other night. But President Isaac Hurtzog of
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  Speaker 5: Israel was scheduled to visit the Adas Synagogue, which was
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  Speaker 5: firebombed in an anti Semitic attack, but he was at
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  Speaker 5: the last minute unable to go due to security concerns.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that is truly remarkable. You have the head
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  Speaker 5: of state of a democratic ally in the Middle East,
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  Speaker 5: in Australia, in solidarity with victims of an anti Semitic massacre,
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  Speaker 5: and he can't even go to the site of another
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  Speaker 5: alleged anti Semitic attack because of fears of more attacks.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, at what point do you just go. Clearly,
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  Speaker 5: we are no longer able to guarantee the safety of
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  Speaker 5: Jewish Australians of Israelis. That is an indictment not just
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  Speaker 5: on our government but also on the state police force.
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  Speaker 5: The Clearly they're not being given enough powers to actually
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  Speaker 5: protect Herzeng.
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  Speaker 2: He's here to mourn with families and friends of the
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  Speaker 2: Bondai victims, and it's appropriate he goes to Melbourne because
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  Speaker 2: I mean anti Semitism. I think we've seen it at
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  Speaker 2: its worst in Melbourne and the fire bombing of that
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  Speaker 2: synagogue was particularly upsetting for the Jewish community in Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: That he can't go to that site and meet with
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  Speaker 2: the people who use that synagogue because police were concerned
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  Speaker 2: about security arrangements is just shocking. But to give you
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  Speaker 2: an idea of what Jews in Victoria have to put
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  Speaker 2: up with, have a look at this photograph that was
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  Speaker 2: published by the ABC. It's Melbourne University. Someone spray painted
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  Speaker 2: just this morning on one of the university buildings, Death
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  Speaker 2: to Herzog and Israel and Oz and you might be
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  Speaker 2: able to make out there there's the Hamas symbol has
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  Speaker 2: been painted on the wall as well. Curiously, police declined
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  Speaker 2: to comment, which I don't think is good enough. Police
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  Speaker 2: should comment, and in that photo you can see a
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  Speaker 2: CCTV camera there. Police should make a comment that they
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  Speaker 2: will find the culprits who did this. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: one thing to say globalize the Interfada. It's another thing
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  Speaker 2: to say death death to the IDF. But to say
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  Speaker 2: death to Herzog, a visiting dignitary who's there to mourn
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  Speaker 2: with the Jewish community, is just outrageous.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is an incitement to voce. I mean, whatever
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  Speaker 3: it is. You don't just go around calling for people
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  Speaker 3: to be dead. I mean, if I came on here
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  Speaker 3: and not in this context of talking about what was there,
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  Speaker 3: but quite earnestly said death the Hertzog, I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 3: a job tomorrow. And fair enough, because you just can't
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  Speaker 3: do that stuff. It should be investigated with the full
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  Speaker 3: force of the law. But clearly you have a situation.
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  Speaker 3: It would seem in Victoria anyway, where the animals are
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  Speaker 3: running the zoo, and if the animals are able to
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  Speaker 3: put the fear into the zookeepers that if you dare
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  Speaker 3: to lawfully go and visit a synagogue, something is going
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  Speaker 3: to happen to the point that they feel like they
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  Speaker 3: can't ensure the security. My argument in that situation would
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  Speaker 3: be that doubly means you've got to go to the
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  Speaker 3: synagogue because you have to make a point.
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  Speaker 1: You have to make a point.
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  Speaker 3: That we are in charge and if you try it on,
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  Speaker 3: you are going to feel the full force of the law.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not an entirely analogous situation, but I think
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  Speaker 3: of in nineteen seventy one when the spring Box toured
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  Speaker 3: Australia and there were protests, big protests about that, and
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  Speaker 3: so jo Bi LK. Peterson, as Premier of Queensland, ensured
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  Speaker 3: that the spring Box were able to play, and of
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  Speaker 3: course at the time there were big issues with apartheid
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  Speaker 3: in South Africa. He declared the stadium where they were
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  Speaker 3: to play as a special site or whatever the term
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  Speaker 3: was under law, which meant that the police had ultimate
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  Speaker 3: power to control the area, and when.
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  Speaker 1: Protesters rocked up, the police just mode right through them.
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  Speaker 3: Now, of course they are two very different situations. But
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  Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say is that if a state
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  Speaker 3: government wants to make something happen, it can it has
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  Speaker 3: the powers to do it. And this is a situation,
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  Speaker 3: situation where they should have been able to say we
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  Speaker 3: absolutely have the right to go there and if you
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  Speaker 3: try it on in terms of threatening our safety, not
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  Speaker 3: going to happen.
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  Speaker 5: We saw during COVID the Victorian government has no issues
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  Speaker 5: but massive crowd control, rubba bullets, using any kind of
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  Speaker 5: force required to contain a crowd. They're perfectly happy to
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  Speaker 5: do it. Then why aren't they willing to do it now?
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  Speaker 5: And why is it always the Jewish community that has
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  Speaker 5: to hide, that has to stay away. It's the same
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  Speaker 5: thing that happened after October seven with the Opera House.
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  Speaker 5: It was the Jewish community, even though the Opera House
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  Speaker 5: was being lit up for them, they were the ones
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  Speaker 5: that were told to stay away from the city. That's
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  Speaker 5: not good enough.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have a listened to some of the flawed logic
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  Speaker 2: of those who were protesting the president's visit today.
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  Speaker 7: That's rail today is an apartheid system And to me,
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  Speaker 7: from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free
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  Speaker 7: is about a society of equality.
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  Speaker 8: Melbourne is showing up and as a collective community, we
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  Speaker 8: don't support genocide.
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  Speaker 1: It's just terrible what's happened.
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  Speaker 3: They're in Gaza and Israel has just been incredibly cruel, ruthless.
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  Speaker 2: That first guy Israel is an apartheid system. Guaranteed he's
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  Speaker 2: never been to Israel anyway. You can't help these people,
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  Speaker 2: and they continue to insist they show up on behalf
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  Speaker 2: of Melbourne. I don't think they're there on behalf of
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  Speaker 2: many more people than themselves. But you know, the craziness continues,
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  Speaker 2: not just in Victoria. If you want crazy, go to
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Victoria or the United Nations. That's your other option where
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Iran have just been made co chairs of the Committee
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: for Social Development. Now the UN's Committee for Social Development
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: focuses on gender equality, tolerance, nonviolence and promoting would you
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: believe it? Democracy? Could you imagine a worse nation to
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: co chair a committee responsible for the promotion of democracy
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: around the world than Iran. I'm not sure what is
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: more surprising than that they were nominated for the position,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: or that when nominated not a single voice of objection
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: in the United Nations was raised.
• 18:10
  Speaker 9: May I take it that the Commission wishes to elect
• 18:12
  Speaker 9: by acclamation mister Abbas Tajik of the Islamic Republic of
• 18:16
  Speaker 9: Iran and mister Shahriar Krajev of a Zerbaijan as wise
• 18:20
  Speaker 9: chairs of the sixty fifth session of the Commission for
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: Social Development. I hear no objection. It is so decided.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Are they completely unaware about what's been happening in Iran
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: the last number of weeks? I mean, what is it?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Forty fifty thousand civilians killed, people being killed in hospitals,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: doctors and lawyers being rounded up, so they can't give
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: testimony to the fact that the regime has been cracking
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: down on citizens wanting their freedom, and the UN says, yeah, sure,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: let's have Iran on our Committee for Promoting Democracy and
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Tolerance around the world.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: Well, and opposition politicians FORMOST, they've also been rounded up.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: So so much for democracy. It does not exist in Iran,
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: that's for sure. Look, frankly, I'm not surprised. I think
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: the UN has completely discredited itself. It's just a joke
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: at this point. I'm not sure why we give it
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: any funding whatsoever. What good has the UN actually achieved?
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: Can someone points to the outcomes it's created, maybe in
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: the areas of poverty reduction and that kind of thing,
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: But when it comes to all these commissions and chairs
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: and Human Rights Counsel. Genuinely, what have they achieved? Absolutely nothing?
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: And don't forget in twenty twenty five the UN past
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: fifteen resolutions condemning Israel and just eleven resolutions condemning all
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: other countries in the world combined. That has been the
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: story of the UN for many decades. Now it's time
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: we just say enough.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I think UN stands for useless nonsense, doesn't it. I mean,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: satire is dead. Seriously, you could get the writers of
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know what Utopia the thick of it, Yes, Minister, Yes,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Prime Minister, frontline monty pythons wore.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: On everything, Monty python.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: You get them all in a room and they wouldn't
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: be able to come up with something as simple yet
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: as funny as that that the UN would go, oh, yes.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: This just makes a lot of sense. We'll have you
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: run in charge of this thing.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Don't forget a couple of years ago and Saudi Arabia
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: was put in charge of the Commission on the Status
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: of Women.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, do they not stop and think when they
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: do this?
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, I wonder if this looks strange at all?
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Like I remember, remember was it last year or the
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: year before when the Taliban were invited to a ten
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: day climate change conference with the United Nations. We know
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: the Taliban are very committed to, you know, making sure
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: global warming is combatant.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: If you're worried about global warming, you're probably the sort
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: of person who drinks oat milk, it should be said.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: And they've had a landmark court case in the UK
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: overnight where they have decided that a oat milk company,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Oatly is the product, is no longer able to advertise
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: its product by using the word milk.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Now, they already actually have.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Laws in the UK that say you can't label milk
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: products as things that aren't dairy. So over there, I
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: think they call it oat drink to legally get around it.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: But what this company Oatly within doing to try and
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: get the milk on their cartons was they were using
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: and had tried to copyright, the term post milk generation,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: which would mean they would be able to write milk
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: on their cartons and therefore people would go oat milk right. Well,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: the court has struck this down. The dairy industry has
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: been fighting against this for years now, and finally the
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: cord has decided in the UK that know, if you
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: are made of oats or almonds or soy.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: It's not milk.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: You're not allowed to use the term milk. And we've
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: been having these discussions here too. I think this should
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: go worldwide.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: If it doesn't come out of an animal, you can't
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: call it milk.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you who's feeling vindicated, Nigel Farage, because
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: he raised exactly this point a few years ago.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: So I'm in a smart home sound in London. I've
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: got a cup of coffee.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I want some milk.
• 22:30
  Speaker 9: Let's have a look.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: We've got semi skim that don't like that oat milk?
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: What on earth that one is?
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: At home?
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Almond milk? All I want is proper bloody milk, not
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: left wing options, proper milk. What's wrong with me asking
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: for that?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Two right proper bloody milk.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know why people drink that low fat crap.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: It's just taste hot water. You gotta have full cream
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: as far as I'm concerned. But a win for common
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: sense that you can't put milk on the label of
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: a product that doesn't come out of a cow or
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: a goat or some other animal that can be milk.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: We should be doing this here in Australia as well.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: And a more accurate description for oat milk is not milk.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: It's juice. It is oat juice.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: And when you look at how it's created, it's actually disgusting.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: A lot of people seem to think it's somehow healthier
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: than milk, but it has to go through about ten
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: artificial steps to get to a point where it's even drinkable,
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: because oats don't naturally turn into milk. That's the thing.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: How do you get it to that point? It's not healthy,
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: it's not milk. It's basically juice and it's gross anyway,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: So why would you drink here?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Then when you look at your porridge in the morning,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: you haven't found the teats on the.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Little oats, ye?
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Right? So can I point out the glaring hypocrisy here?
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: So the UK Supreme Court says you cannot call oat
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: milk milk because it's not milk. And yet the NHS
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: says that if a man uses drugs to induce lactation,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: the milk that comes from his nipples are every bit
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: as good for babies as the milk from a pregnant mother.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: How do you get those two things from the same country?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: All the same time. It's absolutely ludicrous. In fact, the
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: NHS went as far as to say that we shouldn't
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: talk about breast milk or mother's milk, we should talk
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: about human milk so as not to be biased. So
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: this is the madness of Western culture. You can't say
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: oat milk because that's not real milk, but you must
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: say human milk as opposed to breast milk or a
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: mother's milk because men can produce milk for babies too.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: It's just madness and the.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Amount of hormones and stuff you have to give these
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: men to supposedly induce lactation. It's about as artificial as
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: oat milk. It doesn't exist naturally. It is not a thing.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: It should not be a thing. You're so right to
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: call that out.
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: Someone else who's in the UK calling out hypocrisy and
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: the downfall of the nation as they.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: See it, is Sir Jim Ratcliffe.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: He is the co owner of the Manchester United football
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: team and a very successful businessman. Now he has come
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: out and said the UK is being colonized by migrants.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: Have a listen, afford.
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: You can't have an economy with nine million people on
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: benefits and huge levels of immigrants coming into I mean,
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: the UK's being colonized. It's costing too much money. It
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: will cause, it will cause the UK has been colonized
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: by immigrants, really, isn't it.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: He's just given up caring. I love that he's like, yeah, yeah,
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: well I said what I said.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: See, when you're a billionaire, you can afford to say
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: stuff like that exactly.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: And so Kirstalm has come back and obviously thrown a
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: big tantrum. He said, oh well, Britain is a proud,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: tolerant and diverse country. Does not even mean okay, well, look,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: I mean I think he's onto something. If you think
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: about what is the definition of colonization. You move into
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: a new territory, you establish a permanent population. You impose
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: your customs, your institutions, your traditions on the native population.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: You then reduce the ability of the native population to
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: determine their own affairs. You change the demographics. I mean,
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: it's not colonization in the traditional sense that we might
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: all think about, but it certainly has reshaped the UK.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the Manchester United Muslims Supporters Club. I'm not
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: sure why you need a Muslim supporters club. Why don't
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: you just have a Manchester United supporters club. You wouldn't
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: have a Christian supporters club or a Buddhist supporters club
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: either for that matter. They said that these comments by
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: the boss of the footy club frames migrants as invaders
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: and demographic threats. Well, when you see footage of people
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: arriving on mass in boats and then running across beaches,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: and you look at the change in the demography of
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: the UK and and see it with their own eyes,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're disparaging migrants by simply pointing out
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: that the demography is changing and that people are arriving
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: in Britain uninvited. Mass immigration is certainly impacting community harmony,
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: but it seems like the only people that ever get
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: in trouble are the ones who dare to notice it.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: And it's fair to raise demography is an issue. I mean,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: can you imagine I don't know Nicaragua, for instance, if
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: white people just started moving there on mass and then
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: we're largely building up the population, people in Nicaragua would
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: just sit there and.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Go, ah, whatever, well money, turn around and go hang on.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: My country looks a little different to how it used
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: to look, and they're well within their rights to say that,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: which surely we are in the West as well. And
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: it's interesting because when you drill down into the numbers,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: and we can only deal with the last census, which
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: was twenty one twenty two, sixteen percent of the British
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: population was born overseas, which is, according to our last census,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: roughly half the proportion as there is in Australia. So
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: we actually have a lot more new migrants in our
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: country than the UK does. But in London they make
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: up forty percent of the population people who were born overseas.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: And the vast difference in the UK, of course is
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: that their Muslim population. And again this is all based
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: on five year old census data, but five years ago
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: their Muslim population was double what ours was in Australia
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: as a proportion of the population, right and the UK
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: we know they've got Sharia councils operating over there. So
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: even though there might be fewer migrants per head of population,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: as a country, it's a country where they have seen
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: the effects of large populations of migrants in certain areas,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: in particular having a lot of sway and you've seen
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: it in the laws and the way that it's being
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: applied in terms of you know what is and isn't
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: hate speech. Now people being pulled up by the police
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: for mildly offensive tweets or making a racist joke. It's
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: a country where they've really felt the brunt of what
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: can happen if you let things go too fast, And
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: that's the key.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: You can have immigration, and Australia always has and you
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: can have it, but it's got to be at such
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: a level where people can integrate into society. If it's
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: at a level where that doesn't happen, because you simply
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: don't have to to continue to live your life, all
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: ethnic enclaves start to form, that undermines the country for everyone.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: So you can understand when you see the change to
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: British culture why people like the boss of the Manchester
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: United footy club would feel like our country is being changed.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: They even taken from us. Have look at this incident
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: an old man confronted by police over some words that
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: he was told he ought not have said.
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: Apparently doing some conversations between yourself, apparently you've let you
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: have alleged we weren't here, so I don't know you
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: said it. You've alleged to say speak English. Yeah, that's fine,
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: and that's why we've just come to speak because potentially
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: someone could perceive that as a hate crime.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: So if an English if in an English speaking country
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: called England, by the way, you say to someone, hey
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: could you speak English, that's a hate crime. No wonder
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: people want to vote reform.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: I just don't understand how, on any level, any sane definition,
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: that could be a hate crime. And what you're essentially
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: saying is it is offensive and potentially illegal to ask
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: people who've come into your country to adapt to.
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: Your way of life. Well, what is the point.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: Of them coming to the UK if you don't actually
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: want to live in the UK?
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: Follow their rules, their con If you ever go to it's.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: FIVI go to Paris. They don't have any hesitation in
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: saying hey speak for I'm sure we don't speak at
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: all while we're in the UK. And talking about migrants,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: of course, Kirs Starmer announced plan where for every migrant
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: who crossed the channel illegally into the UK, they'd send
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: that person back to France and take an immigrant from
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: France who had arrived legally and was properly documented. Will
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: those being sent back to France having crossed the channel illegally,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: are now trying to remain in the UK by claiming
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: that they are victims of modern slavery. So Kiir Starmer's
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: plan to send these people back is being thwarted because
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: four out of ten of them now have human rights
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: lawyers who are taking their claims to court. This threatens
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: to completely undermine Kirstarmer's one in, one out promise, which
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: was supposed to deal with the immigration problem. This is
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: not new though. We've seen this, haven't we Caleb over
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: the past couple of years, where people arrive in the
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: UK illegally, then human rights lawyers tout for work and
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: find loophole after loophole in the British court system to
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: keep them in the country.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: And do you blame them?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, this is a country where we've
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: seen people get out of being deported because their sons
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: don't like the taste of chicken nuggets in Algeria.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, why would you not, as.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: A human rights lawyer, say hey, let's try on the
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: slavery defense and if that one doesn't work, we'll just
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: say you don't like the food back home, and you
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: can't possibly go back there because you've acclimatized to the
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: chicken nuggets in the UK. Now, when your own laws
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: are working against you, you have something wrong. Surely a
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: country has the right to assert its own sovereignty and
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: eternal authority about who comes in and out of its country,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: and if they say you don't belong there, you simply
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: don't belong there.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: But I mean, to be honest, even though it is
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: bad that people are using and exploiting the law to stay,
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: I don't think Kirstarma's one in one out policy was
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: going to make one ayota of difference anyway, to be
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: perfectly honest, But to give you a scale of just
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: how badly the illegal migration problem has blown out. In
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: twenty eighteen they had two hundred and ninety nine people
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: cross the Channel illegally. Since Kirstarma became Prime Minister, sixty
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: six thousands have crossed the channel.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Seven hundred and ninety one a week.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Insane. I mean that is insane. How do you where
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: do you even start the one in, one out When
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: you're having to process each one of these through the courts,
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: It's very expensive, It's going to take a long time. Unfortunately,
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: for the UK unless they literally start stopping the boats,
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: which is what we did here in Australia.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: There's no hope for them.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: Why you have a navy.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: It's just insane And I just remembered as well, just
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: going back to the previous thing we're talking about with
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Sakia has said that Radcliffe has to apologize for saying
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: they've been colonized by immorants. Sakira is the man who
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: just a few months ago said that the UK risks
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: becoming an island of strangers if it didn't do something
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: about illegal migration. So you know, you can't have it
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: both ways.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: He's trying to though, is he tries to throw a
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: little crumb to people who might be tempted to vote reform,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: but then he reverts to his true colors, which is
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: very pro mass immigration and he doesn't mind how they
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: get there.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Indeed, now sometimes when I'm watching Sakia Starmer, I think
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: he may will be an AI character bot or something.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: He just kind of has that cadence about him. He's
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: just so incredibly boring that you think, is this man
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: actually real? There are radio stations, would you believe it?
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: In Australia where they are now using AI presenters and
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: they typically don't declare this. There's some work has been
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: done to show on some FM stations they have actually been.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Voice tracking with AI voices.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: And the new Code of Conduct for radios Radio on
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Australia came out today for twenty twenty six and radio
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: stations will now have to declare if they are using
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: AI to generate a quote unquote presenter on air, and
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: fair enough, I think they should too. I mean, you know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: if they're going to put us.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Out of a job, that's where I really cross draw
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the line.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Well, it won't apply to weather reports, traffic reports or
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: just general updates, but news and music they'll have to declare.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: On Spotify now you can get a AI DJ to
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: rate your playlist and they introduce the songs and they
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: tell you about it and it's terrible.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: Actually really like it. I mean, I think this is
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: the era where entering, where everything is ultra personalized through AI,
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: and you can have this like custom news presenter who
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: delivers the news exactly you would be interested in.
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: It's cool.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I object to this machine talking to me like we
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: have some sort of relationship. He knows not.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: Real he probably knows you better than yourself, to be honest.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the scary thing.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Is One of the other things they brought in just
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: quickly in this new code of conduct is the the
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: stuff that you can broadcast between eight and nine am
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: and three and four pm, which is and they think
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: kids are in the car, which is basically just trying
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: to gag Carl and Jackie over right, because they keep
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: getting into trouble. I'm just going to say, Carl and Jackie,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: I've been on air for what tweety years together.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: If you haven't worked.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Out what they talk about by now, maybe just turn
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: the radio off between eight and nine.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to a break. When we come back,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: we'll look at what's making headlines tomorrow, including Jewish leaders
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: saying that private security guards outside synagogues and schools should
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: be armed. We'll talk about that and more in just
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: a moment. Welcome back to the program. Well, I don't
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: think there's any prizes for guessing what's the main story
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: in tomorrow's papers.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: Freya, No, absolutely not.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: It is being dominated by the leadership spill that is
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: going to happen at nine am tomorrow. But the Telegraph
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: does have a pretty good headline loan le Liberal ms
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: dessert Susan ahead of Lib spill in The Australian, another
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: good headline, do or die? Will good opposition start today?
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: And here they sort of get into what's going on tomorrow.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: Angus Taylor is poised to become the seventeenth Liberal leader
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: on Friday morning, as several Susan Lee allies concede she's
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: likely to lose a spill and leading conservatives warn the
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: desertion of two million supporters since May risks the very
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: survival of a party that must now change direction. The
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: snowballing of support for a leadership change led to ten
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: front bench resignations on Thursday evening, with mister Taylor's focus
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: on a pledge to tackle one nation on cultural issues
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: and revamp up the fight against Anthony Albanezi on economics.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: And be sure to be watching tomorrow morning for the
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: Liberal leadership showdown here on Sky News, Susan Lee and
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Angus Taylor going head to head in the long anticipated
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: leadership vote. Sky will have all the key moments and
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: live rolling coverage from eight am. So what do you
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: guys reckon? Is it a done deal? Fingers?
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Absolutely done deal? Nothing? Surer? What will be interesting is
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: to observe who the deputy is and how he arranges
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: his shadow cabinet, because the headline in the Australian I
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: think is pretty apt it to do or die. We
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: can't afford incremental change when you've lost that many did
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: you say, two many mills?
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: Seven thousand a.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Day a day that they've been losing, So you can't
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: adjust things minimally. You can't have small changes. You've got
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: to really go for broke. Will he have the courage
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: to do that? We'll see.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's what we really need to find out
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: after he wins the leadership tomorrow, which of course you will.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, you'd have to be an absolute fool to
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: bring this on if you.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Didn't know you already had the numbers right, because that's
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: just like total death.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: So he will win tomorrow and then he has to
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: come out with a really strong case for how he's
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: going to rebuild the Liberal Party. What is interesting you
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: talk about the deputy position. All the names that have
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: been thrown up today, except for Ted O'Brien, who will
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: probably via to keep his spot as deputy, are in
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: or from Victoria. So we may be seeing a bit
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: of a you know, I mean, once upon a time
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: the Victorians.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Basically ruled the Liberal Party, but.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: It's a long time since we've seen that, so we
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: might see a bit of a resurgence of Victorians in
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: the Liberal Party. I'm hearing this evening that Tim Wilson
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: may vote for Angus Taylor. If there's a suggestion he
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: could get shadow Treasury, that Dan t and who we
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: know is going to vote for Angus Taylor, would likely
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: get a shadow foreign which is what he wants. So look,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: it'll be very interesting to see how all of this
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: pans out tomorrow and what his message is for.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: How we actually fix this.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Because it's all good and well to say, Okay, Lee's gone,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: polling numbers are bad, gotta go.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Where do you go after that?
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: One of the lines that's often used about Angus Taylor
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: is that he is the best policy brain in the coalition.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: But sometimes when you're too smart, you're actually too smart.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: For your own good.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: You miss the forest through the trees, And when you're
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: in opposition, you don't have the luxury of time, certainly
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: not the Liberal Party right now.
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: You can't be across every detail.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: You do have to go with your gut and just
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: make decisions on the fly. So that will be the
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: test of does angus have the goods to deliver? But look,
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: can it really get much worse?
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: No, hopefully not.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Actually every time they both He's the best policy brain
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: in the party. I think. So was Kevin Rudd. So
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: was Malcolm Turnbull allegedly so you know, I'm not sure
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: that he was a.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: Road scholar and a McKinsey partner and one of the university.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Medal was a Hodes scholar as well. And yeah, he
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: did much good.
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: He was brilliant.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not knocking Tony Abbitt. I'm just saying it didn't
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: help it retain the premise that is.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Lost thirty news polls in a row. And that's how
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Malcolm Turnbull.
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Anyway, Also in the Australian Tomorrow arm private security guards,
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: senior rabbi Anti Semitism Royal Commission of Virginia Bell and
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: her team have begun meeting with Jewish community leaders, and
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: one senior figure has demanded Jewish private security be armed
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: and Asier police communication breakdowns be investigated. Three sources of
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: confirmed Miss Belle met with Jewish community leaders on Thursday morning,
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: for a procedural discussion. I mean, to be perfectly honest,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: given the climate we're living in, why shouldn't they be armed?
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: I mean that would seem like a pretty common sense
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: position to me.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: It is a common sense position, and it's such a
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: shame that we have a country where that is seen
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: as common sense. I remember going when I was younger,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: went to the Philippines and you'd shocked you'd see armed guards,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: armed security guards everywhere because it was such a foreign
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: concept to be thinking now that it makes a lot
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: of sense to have the same here in Australia shows
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: just how far we've fallen exactly.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure how I feel about security guards with guns,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: though I'm all on board with tasers, and after the
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Bondi tech at Bondi Westfield, I wrote in the Advertiser
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: that they should have some form of weapon because I mean,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: at the moment, security guards have got nothing. They can't
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: do anything at all. But it is a big step
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: to go from nothing to we now have armed security guard.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: This is litively as a police officer.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: To be clear, and I know you know this bit.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Just so viewers, No, this is not a call for
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: security guards that your local Westfield shopping center to be armed.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: This is specifically for security guards outside Jewish school synagogue.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: But then you know, once you let one lot have it,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: can you then say, well, what if a craze gunment
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: walks through the local shopping center, why shouldn't the security
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: guard there have a gun?
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Because that's not a known and real threat, whereas threats
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: to the Jewish community are pretty evident.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly. Well.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: Also in the Australian Tomorrow, just interesting to note down
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: at the bottom of the newspaper is a huge ad
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: paid for by Clive Palmer's It literally says Clive Palmer
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: says the Liberals couldn't make an impression on a cushon reckond.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Clive Palmer would make.
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: A bit of an import rather large and rotunde one.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Oh isn't it? Isn't it great? And I love that?
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: You know he has to clarify Clive Palmer season and
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: then puts his face there twice just.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: To make sure that we're then authorized by Clive Palmer
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: At least we know that it was Clive Palmer over
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: on the front of the Herald Sun Tomorrow. There of course,
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: noting the leadership's Bill Prime angus desperately sacking susan good headline,
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: but the little story next.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: To it Iback wrought pro but no apology.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Victoria's anti corruption watchdog is set to probe claims of
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: widespread corruption across the Allen government's big build sites. The
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Herald's son has confirmed Iback will assess each complaint made
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: in a referral by the state opposition on Thursday. A
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: wide scale investigation would only be launched if an assessment
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: determines criminal offending might have occurred. It comes as Premier
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: just Center Allen has refused to apologize to Victorian taxpayers
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: for the alleged fifteen billion dollar cost of the CFMU wrought.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Even disputing the amount.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I mean that this is typical Dan Andrews, isn't I
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: I don't accept that that can't be real. And seriously,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: misappropriation of taxpayers money to this degree is not a
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: light issue and one on which you just go, ah, well,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: that's wrong.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: Well, rule number one of politics is deny, deny, deny,
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: and I think Victorian labor has mastered that perfectly.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely, all right. Let's go to the is that
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: the Herald some we're done with yes, all right, Let's
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: go to the front page of the Gold Coast bullet
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: and interesting story here from the local council. Stunning move
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: after council travel deal exposed CEO's flights grounded. So the
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: story goes like this, the Gold Coast Council will now
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: approve the CEO's travelers. Stunning move after it was revealed
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: the top boss and mayor have been signing off on
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: each other's ratepayer funded international trips. In the past year,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: the Gold Coast Council CEO has been to London, to India,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: to the UK, to the US. Why the CEO would
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: need to do so much international travel is beyond me.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: No suggestion any of it was wrong, but it was
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: approved by the mayor, and of course the mayor's travel
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: is approved by the CEO. It's a pretty nice arrangement.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Now that it's been revealed that arrangement will cease.
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: So I remember reading I think it was in yesterday's
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: Gold Coast Bulletin, And at some point this week Tom Tate,
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: the mayor, is over in Italy for the Winter Olympics
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: and has just signed up their eleventh sister city. So
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: you know, great payer value eleven's sister cities.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Can you believe it all right? If you think the
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Australian Parliament is an absolute circus, after the break will
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: show you the Turkish Parliament, which is an absolute wrestling ring.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: That's next. I don't know why you would want to
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: run a business these days. You employ staff, but then
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: it's almost impossible to get rid of them. Case in point,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: a truck driver was stopped by a random breath test
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: and police found he had traces of marijuana in his system.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Now this was on a Wednesday morning. He told his
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: bosses about what had happened and admitted he had been
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: smoking pot at the weekend. While the boss instantly fired him,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: we don't want a truck driver who's smoking pot and
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: then pulled over and found to have it in his system.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: He complained though that it hadn't affected his driving, and
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: the police, while testing him positive, hadn't got back the
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: lab results yet to confirm the positive test. So he
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: took his boss to the Fair Work Commission and they
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: found he was dismissed unfairly and they ordered him to
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: be paid thirty five thousand dollars in compensation. So he
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: smokes pot on the weekend, gets pulled over, found to
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: have it in his system, His boss sacks him and
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: he gets paid thirty five grand compo.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I have to say in defensive procedural fairness, given he
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: was sacked before the lab result came back, there is
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: an argument, but I don't know.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: What the lab results were after that.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: The issue is that they sacked him too early, that
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: he had waited for the lab results, if they would
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: have had everything they.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Need, he admitted he had done it.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: I know, well, I mean, you're allowed to smoke pot
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: on the week well legally not, but people do it.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: We know that maybe you just shouldn't be a truck drift.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: This is the state of our laws in this country.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: You're right, James, why would you employ anyone? Let's go
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: over to Turkey, where a shocking brawl has broken out
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: in parliament as a new justice minister tried to get
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: sworn in. Well, some MPs, we're just not having it.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: Makes our leadership crisis and the Liberal Party look.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Very tame, very civilized.
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Very civilized, very respectful. Apparently this guy was the lead
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: prosecutor in a lot of cases against opposition parties in Turkey.
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: Is he gonna understand a little bit of the frustration there,
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: but it's probably not the best way to happen.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: I think more people would take an interest in politics
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: if ours was.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Telling you this is how all parliamentary debates should be resolved,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Like are we going to pass this bill? We'll just
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: fight it out and see who comes out on top.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Clara O'Neill posted on Facebook the other day, I've just
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: smashed out my pilates class. Now I'm going to go
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: and smash a few liberals should fit right in the
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Turkish parliament.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Bring it on all right, time for this segment don't
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: book the day, and today's entry is Trevor Brown from
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: ray White, Cheltenham, who was not too happy about the
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: fact that while he was doing an open for inspection,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: the woman next door who he had sold this house
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: to the house need store that is, was using your
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: lift blower.
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: That's not your property right there right there? An enemy?
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Do you want everyone in the street to know you're
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: a cockid or just the neighbors that are about to leave?
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: What did you just call me?
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: What a rude bagger called her a cockein for using
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: a leaf which is within their rights to use the
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: leaf blowers on.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: The real estate agency said they will introduce protocol training
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: for their agency. Yes, that's needed. Good night, that's it
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: from us stick around. Coming up is the Read a
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Penny Show