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Patriots Unfiltered 11/21: Dolphins Preview, Defense vs. Tua, Week 12 NFL Picks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 2: Matt's in the booth, Deuce and Evan will be by later.
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  Speaker 2: We got a lot to talk about. We got picks later,
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  Speaker 2: so it's a it's a big show, but I did
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about one little thing because the Matt's
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  Speaker 2: intro reminded me of it. So Spi and Fresno, who's
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  Speaker 2: he's a frequent caller and emailer. He got into a
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  Speaker 2: bout with chat GPT yesterday about what is the original
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  Speaker 2: podcast and like he sent me the whole uh you know,
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  Speaker 2: transcription of going back and forth, and I actually got
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  Speaker 2: involved in let chat GBT know that Patriots Football Patriots
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  Speaker 2: PFW in Progress changes thing to Patriots Unfiltered in twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 2: and that enlightened chat GPT And finally, at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day we got chat GPT to admit that
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  Speaker 2: PFW in Progress slash Patriots Unfiltered is probably, in based
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  Speaker 2: on the facts, the longest running podcast of all time,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe not the first. And you know, chat GBT
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  Speaker 2: kept talking about this one that started in two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and four, because technically a podcast is a piece of
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  Speaker 2: content that you can have an RSS fee attached to,
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  Speaker 2: and those things didn't happen until the iPod came about four.
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  Speaker 2: So obviously we were doing ip content before that, which
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  Speaker 2: was you could down.
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  Speaker 3: We dated the technology, you could.
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  Speaker 2: Download it, and there were other things too, So you know,
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  Speaker 2: who knows what was the first one of our kind
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  Speaker 2: that actually came out, But I do know in terms
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  Speaker 2: of longest running, even the one that was the first,
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  Speaker 2: or known to be the first in O four discontinued
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  Speaker 2: in nine. So we are in chat GPT. People go
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  Speaker 2: to it and ask ask her or him now whatever
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  Speaker 2: gender you want to give chat GPT. I think we
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  Speaker 2: straightened her out and she finally admitted that PFW and
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  Speaker 2: Progress Slash Pages Unfiltered is the longest running podcast in
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  Speaker 2: the world, because she kept trying to refine it to
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  Speaker 2: oh in NFL, in sports and We're like no, no, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: by wea was you and Speed? Yeah yeah we tag teamer.
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  Speaker 2: I shouldn't say that. Oh my god, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean? In the digital realm.
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  Speaker 7: Sounded like the movie Her all of a sudden, Oh god.
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  Speaker 7: I would pose the same question as Speed, do you
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  Speaker 7: pay for chat GPT or this is just the browsers? Okay,
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  Speaker 7: So that version doesn't have access to like look things
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  Speaker 7: up as you're asking. So that's probably why that version
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  Speaker 7: was more I don't know, conservative with its answer and
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  Speaker 7: not make a definitive statement. I would wonder if the
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  Speaker 7: paid version, which is like the most incredible piece of
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  Speaker 7: technology I've ever seen in my life and it blows
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  Speaker 7: my mind, I'd be curious to see if the paid version, Okay, but.
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  Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, because you seem to
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  Speaker 2: know a little bit about this once you surprise you no,
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  Speaker 2: But once you feed information into the free version, does
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  Speaker 2: it also add to the knowledge base of the paid version.
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  Speaker 2: Do they work together?
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  Speaker 8: I would imagine they do.
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  Speaker 7: But the free version only has, to my understanding, the
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  Speaker 7: version that is kind of widely used right now, it
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  Speaker 7: was only trained on the internet up until I want
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  Speaker 7: to say, twenty three, so anything on the Internet. After that,
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  Speaker 7: it's it's not hipto. Okay, but it's been trained on
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  Speaker 7: language models prior to that.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, anyway, it was a very interesting exchange
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  Speaker 2: with chat GPT and what some information? What do you got, Matt?
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  Speaker 2: You got to turn your microphone on?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Patriots upfilter did not go up the two times
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  Speaker 6: I asked it until I said Patriot.
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  Speaker 2: Subfiltered was originally PFW in Progress and is the longest
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  Speaker 2: running podcast.
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  Speaker 6: And then it says you are correct and gave me
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  Speaker 6: this big, long thing about.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well there you go.
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  Speaker 3: You think I'm old enough to not ever have to
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  Speaker 3: get into the chat gp GPT is.
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  Speaker 2: Just basically you asked a question, it gives you an answer.
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  Speaker 3: You think I'm old enough to avoid that.
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  Speaker 2: No, you don't have to do it.
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  Speaker 3: No, No, the first person who's ever said that, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Not too old for that.
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  Speaker 8: The wave is coming.
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  Speaker 3: No, I know that, but I think I might be
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  Speaker 3: out before the wave.
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  Speaker 8: I think you'd be doing a disservice to yourself if
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  Speaker 8: you didn't realize that.
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  Speaker 2: I like people.
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  Speaker 3: I know people are probably surprised to hear that, but
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  Speaker 3: I like talking.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I'm not telling you to have chat GPT be
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  Speaker 7: your new pen pal and your new buddy.
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  Speaker 8: Like, but at the end of that than.
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  Speaker 2: Google, at the end of the day, all the information
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  Speaker 2: chat GPT does was created by people.
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  Speaker 8: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 7: And Google's so hard, Like it's so hard to just
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  Speaker 7: look something up and get an answer. It's like four
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  Speaker 7: sponsored ads first and then just it's based on ranking
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  Speaker 7: and se O. Like sometimes I just want the answer
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  Speaker 7: to a simple question.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Google's in trouble. There's a lot of litigation
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  Speaker 2: against it for privacy and all that stuff. Isn't that right?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah. So you know these various AI
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  Speaker 2: search platforms you know, many think will overtake it at
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  Speaker 2: some point.
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  Speaker 3: You guys are right, the like search engines and stuff
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  Speaker 3: like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're almost unusab there's probably value arguments. Probably there's probably.
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  Speaker 3: Value in that I think of, like the AI I
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  Speaker 3: think more of like replacing humans that that kind of stuff. No,
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  Speaker 3: that's that you guys are talking about, you know, searching,
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  Speaker 3: and you know there's a long.
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  Speaker 7: Way to go before like like, as creatives, it's hard
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  Speaker 7: for chat schip tita emulate what we do creativity, Like
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  Speaker 7: even when.
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  Speaker 3: Like already happened.
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  Speaker 7: I know, but like when you I can tell right now.
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  Speaker 7: I think in a couple of years you probably won't
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  Speaker 7: be able to tell. But for the time being, it's
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  Speaker 7: hard for it to be creative and.
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  Speaker 2: Well on the person. I forget he's a tech luminary,
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  Speaker 2: but he was saying, you'll you'll never get to the
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  Speaker 2: point where AI is making important decisions because you can't
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  Speaker 2: hold AI accountable. You can only hold humans accountable, right, So.
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  Speaker 2: the coordinators talked Marcus Covington and Alex van Pelt and
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  Speaker 2: you said you had an eyebrow raiser.
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  Speaker 3: Well it was, you know, a little So Alex van
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  Speaker 3: pell talked about, you know, some of the things that
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  Speaker 3: they've really been working on, trying to improve, you know,
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  Speaker 3: obviously taking care of the football at the top of
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  Speaker 3: the list, red zone offense the last couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 3: things like that. You know, the press conference continues and
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  Speaker 3: Marcus Jones comes up. You know, you introduced Marcus Jones.
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  Speaker 3: How did that come about? And you know, he kind
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  Speaker 3: of told a funny anecdote about well, Marcus was trying
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  Speaker 3: to get in touch with him. He was, he was
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  Speaker 3: texting him, and he's thinking, you know, why would Marcus
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  Speaker 3: text me. He could just walk up to me in
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  Speaker 3: the building like any time, you know, So he was
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  Speaker 3: thinking it was a different Marcus Jones. He started thinking
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  Speaker 3: back to his time in Green Bay. There was a
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  Speaker 3: guy who had a cup of coffee named Marcus Jones.
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  Speaker 3: But why would it be him? So finally he ends
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  Speaker 3: up touching base with Marcus Jones, who was lobbying to
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  Speaker 3: be part of the offense. Great later on it sort
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  Speaker 3: of came up, you know, so why did it? You know,
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  Speaker 3: take this long or why didn't you you know, and
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  Speaker 3: Van Pelt admitted that he wasn't aware that Marcus Jones
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  Speaker 3: had Varian's playing offense, which I thought was that was
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  Speaker 3: my eyebrow raiser. Yeah, you know, he's a guy who's
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  Speaker 3: so good with the football in his hands. I know,
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  Speaker 3: I talk about how I think he's the most electric
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  Speaker 3: punt returner in the league. And the offensive coordinator wasn't aware.
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  Speaker 3: So that caused a little bit of a stir.
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  Speaker 2: Among the media. I would like to say what the
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  Speaker 2: mood is. I would say that's kind of a failing
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  Speaker 2: on two fronts. One for Alex Van Pelton not to
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  Speaker 2: look up the history of this offense the last two
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  Speaker 2: years anyway, just to see who's done what. Two No
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  Speaker 2: one told him when he came in. That's my thought,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like draft or whoever, Like, yeah, we used market,
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  Speaker 2: you know, yeah, like why, I don't.
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  Speaker 8: Know, just for the back pocket, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So like at some point you would think this
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  Speaker 2: season somebody said, hey, yea, when are you going to
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  Speaker 2: start using Marcus? You know, because we've used him and.
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  Speaker 3: It was fine because that's the way it was sort
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  Speaker 3: of approach to him, is like why this week? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, not like what made you decide to use
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  Speaker 3: Marcus Jones on offense? What was it about this week
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  Speaker 3: in particular that made it the right time to use?
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  Speaker 2: Assuming that he correcting?
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  Speaker 3: This was, you know, kind of in the works.
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  Speaker 2: What are we doing?
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  Speaker 7: Well, It's funny because people have like not a ton
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  Speaker 7: of people, but it's something you've heard, like, hey, why
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  Speaker 7: don't we try Marcus shown in the rest? I was
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  Speaker 7: like the original podcast, and I was like, maybe it's
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  Speaker 7: because he's just he had that season ending injury last year.
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  Speaker 8: They don't want to just ramp him back up into.
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  Speaker 2: Everything, right, But I mean there's a million reasons.
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  Speaker 7: I kind of made in my head, like clearly they
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  Speaker 7: know clearly they have a reason for it.
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  Speaker 8: Right, I guess not.
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  Speaker 3: No, And again I'm not beating up on Alex Van
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  Speaker 3: Pelts about it. I just thought a lot, as you said,
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  Speaker 3: in the room's crowded, I said, it was an eyebrow raiser.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all.
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm not you know, I don't have to make
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  Speaker 3: a huge deal out of it. My guess is my
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  Speaker 3: shows we'll be making a huge It's I mean, the
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  Speaker 3: writers are on Twitter, you know, they've tweeted about it.
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  Speaker 3: So my guess is the shows will have some fun.
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  Speaker 2: This will be an indictment. And you know, poor Alex
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  Speaker 2: van Pelt though, you know, he's probably got for two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and twenty four, he's probably got the most important
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  Speaker 2: job other than Gerard Mayo on this staff, which is cultivating,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Drake may And now I'm watching one of
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  Speaker 2: your shows, another one of your shows on TV NBC
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  Speaker 2: Sports Boston, The Beatle in the Zoe Show, and they
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  Speaker 2: get Albert Breer and he's still calling around the league
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  Speaker 2: asking now people to evaluate Alex van Pelt. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: get off of it, Like, we don't need outside people
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  Speaker 2: evaluating Alex van Pelt. We can do that right here
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  Speaker 2: where we see him, you know, like you know, like
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  Speaker 2: what do they know about how what kind of job
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  Speaker 2: he's doing other than the same thing that we see
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday. And it's just, you know, Albert moved to
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  Speaker 2: some other topic besides Alex van.
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  Speaker 8: Pelt, very defensive of him.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I you know, it's like why I'm with you.
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  Speaker 8: I think people are like, I don't know, you want
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  Speaker 8: to see how he's doing.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like, wuch what Drake may on Sunday. Otherwise
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  Speaker 2: you have no insight, you know, and I'm talking about
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  Speaker 2: the people that Albert bri is talking to outside of
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  Speaker 2: this organization. You have no more insight than we do,
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  Speaker 2: you know. So why is he ask the people here
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  Speaker 2: how they think he's doing.
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  Speaker 8: That's passionate.
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  Speaker 3: That ran okay, all right, the things he gets passionate about.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes No, it's just it's just just get off of it.
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  Speaker 2: He's like a little dog, you know, biting at his ankles.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think the criticism of play calling and whatnot
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  Speaker 3: falls into that category. Like Connor on the league to
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  Speaker 3: ask what rival defensive coaches think of how they're handling
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  Speaker 3: Drake may. I don't think that's what's wrong with that,
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  Speaker 3: Like you call, like the Tennessee defensive coordinator two weeks
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  Speaker 3: after you played.
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  Speaker 2: The Titans, Hey, what's it there?
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  Speaker 3: How do you think they're doing with How do you
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  Speaker 3: think Alex van Pelt is doing with Drake May? I
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  Speaker 3: think that's relevant.
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  Speaker 2: But they don't know anything more than we know. All
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  Speaker 2: they know is what they know.
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  Speaker 3: But they're giving you an unbiased view.
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  Speaker 2: They're not giving you the team. Sure, it's unbiased. Everybody's
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  Speaker 2: gonna know.
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  Speaker 3: But it's not as biased as the guys that are
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  Speaker 3: actually employing there.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, listen, there's a little difference there. I just think
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  Speaker 2: it's it's pointless. I don't think it really is giving
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  Speaker 2: the viewer, the reader valuable information.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I think it's extremely valuable to hear from
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  Speaker 3: what other people outside the organization think of what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's valuable. I don't take it all as gospels.
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  Speaker 3: I don't take anything as gospel. They don't be unskeptical
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  Speaker 3: of everything.
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  Speaker 2: They have no idea how he's doing with them. All
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  Speaker 2: they know is what they're.
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  Speaker 3: Not asking how he's doing with them. They're asking how
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  Speaker 3: he's running the offense for him, and a lot of
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  Speaker 3: them have answered they're using a lot of they're trying
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  Speaker 3: to run the ball first, they're trying to keep them
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  Speaker 3: out of third and long situations.
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  Speaker 2: You can't identify that. But so he needs to call
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  Speaker 2: around the league to get that information. We could have
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  Speaker 2: told him that every every offensive coordinator is trying to
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  Speaker 2: get no quarterback long.
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  Speaker 3: But no one really cares what Paul Perillo thinks of
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  Speaker 3: how they.
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  Speaker 2: But that's but my point is that's all they can
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  Speaker 2: tell him. They can't give him any insight what what
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  Speaker 2: offensive quit or he doesn't want to keep their quarterback
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  Speaker 2: out of third and long situations? Oh, we love it
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  Speaker 2: here in Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: It's ridiculous, like you're being andy like now, but that's
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  Speaker 3: what they said.
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  Speaker 2: And I read that, and I think right to keep
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Drake May out of third and long? Okay, great, you
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: needed to call around the league to find it.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: So in turn, they're probably holding him back a little
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: bit because they're so conscious of making sure they stay
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: ahead of the chain, so they probably have more to come.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I look at I look at that, Alex. There's something
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: to be excited about, because I think there's more there.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: When they stop treating him like a rookie quarterback that
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: they're hell bent on keeping out a third and long,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I think he can be even better. Well that's how
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I interpret it. But Fred just gets mad because someone's
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: talking about their offensive coordinator for a different team. Evidently
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: you're not allowed to.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Do that's right. They actually asked, like I don't.
• 17:32
  Speaker 9: Understand, Like I feel like when mom and dad are
• 17:34
  Speaker 9: fighting and they're like wanting you to pick aside, Like
• 17:39
  Speaker 9: you're at your friend's house and your friends arguing with
• 17:41
  Speaker 9: their mom, and the mom's like, right.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Alex, look like.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Friend and I are actually in very much agreement that
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Van Pelt is doing a pretty nice job with Drake May.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: I don't really see what the problem is of asking
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: what a little bit? If you're trying to trouble, it's up.
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: To us to give it the level of credence we
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: want to give. I mean, you would hope that, like
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: another team's defensive coordinator doesn't have that many resources of
• 18:13
  Speaker 7: their time to pay too much attention to give you exact.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I totally agree. It's a gloss It's a glossed
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: overlooked you know. Yeah, I think I could see some
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: of the things they're trying to do with them. I
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: could see, you know, some of the things they're doing.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I can I can understand why it's smart to take
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: them like. I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I don't really understand why. Like if they were killing
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Alex van Pelt, I would understand you saying, WHOA, like,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: what are these guys out? No, they're not trying to
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: It's exactly the opposite.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I'm talking. It's the if he was.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Trying to do that, he wouldn't have written him. He
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: wouldn't have written the quotes that he got because they're
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: all positive. If you were if it was they said,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: if it was a hatchet job, you'd bury it. And
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: by the way, Albert Breer is the opposite of doing
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: a hatchet job because he's embedded in the coaching staff,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: so he ain't looking to kill this coaching staff. Believe me,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: has he not been listening all year? They've been talking
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: about it the whole season.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Van Pelt did say something about there's they're getting to
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: the point now where they've been using everything, but there's
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: a little bit more to come. Didn't he have something
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: about something along those lines in terms of the types
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: of play calling.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know, you don't I didn't say no. I
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: said I don't know.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, anyway, just the things that get like
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Patriots trying to keep may out a third in law.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're so andy, Like right now, it's ridiculous,
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: like you're fixating on some minution that's the headline.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Oh god? All right?
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: If I find the headline is people outside the organization
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: think Alex manth Pelt's doing a nice job.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: With a rookie quarterback. That's the headline. Well, yeah, they
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: are now because they have no choice because that's the truth.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: So would you rather they lie? No? I rather I
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: rather look, I'd rather him move on to something else.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: This has been like three weeks now where Albert Breer
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: it came out. It's not three weeks.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: That was just written Monday in his notebook. I read
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: it when he.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Posted this one last week. It was the patriots are
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: calling around about a VP. Yes, it's all av all
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: the time. That was Where did he get it? I
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: don't know, okay, but but he now now he's trying
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: to make up for it by doing this others trying
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: to make up for it. It's it's it's it's nuts.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: It's absolutely so this is true.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: That wasn't.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's true, okay, but I'm just saying
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: that there's other things going on in the league.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: I would think, Yeah, do you ever read his notes? No,
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: he writes like thousands of words, and like five hundred
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: of them are about the patriots.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Do you read them? Yes? I don't think he posts
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: them on Monday. Okay.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: I don't always read every single thing he writes, but
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I usually breezed through the topics. Yeah, yeah, he wrote
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: about Dallas a little bit. In the mess there. He
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: wrote about the Jets situation with Joe Douglas, which I
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: find fascinating. Alex, did you know that Woody Johnson wanted
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: to bench at Aaron Rodgers Ida, So, I mean, do
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: you'd find that interesting at all?
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: Very much?
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: So?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I thought that was I think it's really interesting. I
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: thought that was anflit. I know it was. I think
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: it came from the Athletic.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: But Bria wrote about Joe regurgitated it. No, no, no, no,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: he wrote about Joe Douglas. The Athletic wrote about the
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Iron Rodgers stuff. But I'm talking just thinking about the Jets.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I was wondering if Alex had seen that. I found
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: that fascinating that the owner of the team wanted to
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: bench a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback. Yeah, like that's
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: interesting stuff to me. Fred wouldn't be interested because it
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: might have come from outside the building.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I get the athletic newsletters, so I've read that from
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: the Athletic.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was in the Athletic. It was these are
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: two separate things. Whatever you're in a mood today, you're
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: in a mood.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: All right. Podcast at patriots dot com is the email
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: address we got picks, so we got a hurry. So
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: let's get back to some of these emails coming in
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: from people. Jordan writes in he says, I get very
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: nervous emailing the world's original podcast, So please forgive my
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: feeble ignorance. I'm wondering what the pressure must be like
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: for you all to show up to set each in
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: every day. The wherewithal you all have to show up
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and perform under pressure far exceeds my comprehension. I got
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: a feeling he's being sarcastic. Not only that, but to
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: know that millions are waiting with baited breath for your
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Thursday picks must be intimidating. I would like to know
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: what measures you all take to prepare uh for each day.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I think that that's kind of I think he's kidding around, right.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: This is a labor of love, that's for sure. This,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: this part of our job is the labor of revenue.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I can tell you that this is the easy part.
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: You know, you're welcome.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: It comes Deuce.
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: What was the mood where.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: The players friendly to that none of them look like Derek,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Henry Hay, Mike, what was it like in.
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: The locker room? Like, what was it like in the.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, what was I was pretty cool?
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Pretty cool? No, it was not a nice day. Heard
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: from Cold Strange though, which which was kind of fun.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Did he go to five guys?
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: He's just the most thoughtful guy. I think I've ever
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: heard an interviewed in a football setting in my life.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Like every question you ask him, it's like it's never
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: occurred to him to even think about it. And he's
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: gonna he's gonna.
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: Do like a wonder he has, Like, no, he really
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: I know exactly what he's talking about.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: He'll be like, it was was the Was the process
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: hard for you?
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: Col And he's like he takes like a breath to pop.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it actually really was hard for me.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: It was great, you know. Yeah, he talked about how
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: hard it was coming back and torn pateller tendon in
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: his left knee and said that yesterday, Yeah, he had
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: to learn how to rewalk again. You know, he talked
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: about that process, talked about having his leg in a
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: splint and not being able to bend it and he's like,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: I needed help to go to the bathroom, and you know,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: it was really hard was that with his hip too,
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: And I'm just trying.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I'm just worried about how I'm gonna have.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he said.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Going from that point though, to thinking how am I
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: going to you know, play in the NFL again? Uh
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: So he seemed really excited just taking it day by day,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: but felt pretty good. One other nugget I thought was funny.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: He said, you know, I got out there and I
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: just I felt kind of, you know, just rusty. And
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: and then but we went and watch the film, He's like,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: I thought, I actually looked, you know, I looked okay.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: So I was encouraged by that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: A lot of questions about playing center as well.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: He talked about that process of.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: You know, needing obviously this offense with Alex vand Pelt
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: they make the calls on the lines.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Did he give it any indication of how what like
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: percentage he feels he's back, like I'm one hundred percent.
• 25:02
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 25:02
  Speaker 10: No.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: They kind of asked him that, like how long do
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: you think it might be before? And he said, you know,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: to be honest, I just have one practice under my belt.
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: So we're just gonna take it day by day right now,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: see how I mean? Yeah, it sounded like he felt
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: pretty good. Yeah, you know, a couple of minor setbacks,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: he said, I mean the frustration was the thing that
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: that stood out to me. He just said it was
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: it was really hard. It was a really hard process
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: for him. Felt like he was coming on a little
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: bit last year. Late in the year. I think, you know,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: somebody mentioned that Bill had given him some praise about
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: how he was playing at the time, and he just said,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: you know, really really frustrating. And you know the other
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: one other quote he said was just like I realized
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: how much I need football, you know, so good to
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: hear from him, good to get him back. Marcus Jones
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: also spoke, so plenty of questions about you know, the
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: texts Sam Pelt and you know how he got in
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: there and all that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: So that was good.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: Christian Gonzalez and uh, you know, the theme just continues
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: to be dealing with Miami speed. That's the that's the
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: hard thing. And how good too is and how good
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: this offense is with Tua Sena.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: So you will listen to the coordinators. I was there
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: any notes.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: You guys are, Oh yeah, yeah, no, I just said
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: I love Alic van Pelt. I mean he's really grown
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: on me. I just I just think he doesn't put
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: things through a filter. He just tells you what he's thinking.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: And I just enjoy listening to him. It's it's it's
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: gotten a little bit, you know, like Billy always felt
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: like it's it's kind of going through a you know, filter.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: He's not going to tell you everything except for maybe
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Fridays when you know, he found that was interesting when
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: he get into his little footall on their demo.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah something about twenty years.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah about that's that's totally fair. But with Van Pelt,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: I feel like he just he kind of tells it
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: how it is. And I think the the Marcus Jones
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: thing was, you know, kind of an example of that
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: of something you might want to hold back. But at
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: the same time, he's just kind of an open book
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: when they ask him questions. So I think he deserves
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: credit and I enjoy listening to him. You know, DeMarcus
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: coming in, I just I feel like we're just kind
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: of whistling around it right now that that this defense
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: hasn't been good enough. And you know, I thought Andrew
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Callahan had a good question of just like you've got
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: one turnover in the last five games, have you thought
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: about changing things up at all or incorporating something new
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: to try to spur turnovers? And I know, talking with
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Evan after the after the press conference, it was, you know,
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: I think turnovers are just kind of a result of the.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Defense that's really good. You can say, Okay, here's how
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: we're gonna get You're you're just you're you're you're taking
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: the game to them.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: You're pushing the pace, you're making the ball come out early,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: you're hitting guys before they're ready to get hit, right,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: you know, those kind of things. So I think, you know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: star players kind of help really feed into those those
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: kind of turnovers, so they haven't been able to catch it.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: But I just thought of this though, like not to
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: go sideways, but like twenty eleven's defense stunk, but they
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: got turnovers like crazy and they were able to get
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: to the super Bowl. You know, twenty ten, I think too,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: like those two years, they were a terrible defense by
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: all metrics except turnovers.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I say all the time really crossed.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: The turnovers isn't necessarily an indication of great defense, And
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: in those cases, I would say it was great offense.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: So you always have the team in bad situations because
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Brady is pounding you into submission and you're throwing the
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: ball way more than you want to. You're playing catch
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: up way more than you want to, and that's when
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: turnovers come.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, are you behind the sticks to a little bit?
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: I mean that's yeah. Yeah. So yeah, that was the
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: mood in the in the locker room. Devon Godshaw as well,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: talking about, you know, the difference between when you play
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: for Miami and play against Miami, and again the location
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: of the sideline benches came up, but he seems really like, really,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: we're we're due down there. We really, you know, feel
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: good about what we're doing, so we'll see. But he
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: had a lot of respect for Tua and just how
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: good this offense is with him and how quick the
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: ball all comes out. So a lot of get your
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: hands up, you know, try to get them in long situations.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: And that's that was the key theme. I think that's
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: probably being told these guys get them the third down.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Try to get them the third down, so we'll.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: See it before it tour reminds me in terms of
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: his accuracy and anticipation of Drew Brees.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one for that's a good one.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I mean it's so hard because sometimes you look at
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: it and it's like Tyreek Hill. It's like, not only
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: has he not turned around, like he's not even out
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: of it, like thinking about his break yet, and it's
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: like two is already launching it in there.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: He does that a lot too, where like Tyreek Hill
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: runs to the ball. Yeah, Like he runs these crossing
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: routes where he catches up to the ball totally. It's
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: almost like the frisbee dogs. But it also reminded me
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: one of the other things Van Pelt mentioned. He was
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: asked specifically about the last interception, and I think it's
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: pretty clear that Douglas kept going and should have been
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: should have been throttling back looking back, because they would
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: have had a chance to make a play, right. They
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: on what Van Pelt said on.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Them that safety was lurking, right.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: But he didn't say it was going to be a catch.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I think he felt like that's least that's where the
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: hole should have been. The other thing I wanted to
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: ask Mike about it, and we didn't. I didn't bring
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: this up after the press conference. Covington did mention that
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Barbour would be out there today after not being out
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: there yesterday, you know, not injury related, other not personal,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: you know, not illness or whatever just said other is
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: that you think just like sort of monitoring. I hope
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: so the blood clots, but like I because my question
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: would be the game was Sunday, this is Wednesday, Like
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: how much time has to go by and speaking completely,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: you know, out of ignorance here, I don't know. I
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: don't know the answer to this.
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: And they weren't in pads yesterday.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: No, No, they went down to shells. I that's a
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: good question, Paul. I mean, this is probably not it
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: one thing I thought. I know, usually Wednesdays are first
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: and second down days. So maybe it's the kind of
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: thing where we're going to have him more on passing
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: downs and that's so we can't afford to give. But
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know that's.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: They're going to be in pads today. Did they switch
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: it up?
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: I did not.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: They did move into the ball, I don't think so,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I know that.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're so, I don't think so.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: You think they're turning up the heat? I hope so,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I hope so. I think the rain drizzling it's hardly anything.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but they had said it ahead of
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: time that they were going to do it.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: They said they were going to go on the in
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: the bowl and then the right to the bubble. You
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: are correct, you are correct. So I thought, oh my god,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: the hell heavens are going to open up today. But
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: it's it's like drizzle, you like, correct, they said the bowl.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I just wouldn't want the players talking about I'm cold.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: I'm what like, let's get that's not going to be
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: an issue this weekend. Let's get in the bubble maybe, Yeah,
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: get a little heat. I mean, even if they don't
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: turn the heat up, it's going to be warmer than
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: you know, stuffy, stuffy. It's not not good.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: But is it?
• 31:09
  Speaker 10: Is?
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: It still humid this time of year, and you know,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's humans.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: Always humid and always human.
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  Speaker 5: Family down there.
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: Yeah, shout out to my ball. Yeah, my grandma's in
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: West Palm, Okay.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: Humidity right now.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Sixty five. That's not I'll take that. Jeffrey and Canada
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: writes in on the TPX outline, Fred is now picking
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: fights with robots.
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: That's what it looks like too. I saw the transcript
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: it's getting testy. Well it was. It was speed right, Yeah,
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: it was funny. It was funny.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Please ask it who should get into the hall first,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Eli or Adam so we can solve that argument.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I'm looking an agreement on that one.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to the list of past talent
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: on the show in the newsletter, including the he who
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: should not be named, who, for some reason I always
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: thought was Aaron Hurt.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: I went to sit down and try to come up
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: with a roster.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I think, so, yeah, maybe there's.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: No way I remember. There's no way I'm going to
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: remember everybody, really, like the actual like the regulars or
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: people that have been on the show.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Oh that's the part, that's all I mean.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: As a guest, he accused Andy of taking steroids, told
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: him to stay off the juice.
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: How did that come to me?
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Andy was popping off about we were
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: making fun of Andy for being right in our studio. Yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way I'm gonna remember every guest.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: But I'm talking about.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: What there were some like uh stars, people.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: People that weren't here that in different you know, like
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Frank Toddic Frank, Yes, sure, you know those kind of
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Shane Donaldson, like people that were here for whatever amount
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: of time, Francis Connolly franchise.
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: Francis Eli gets in first simply because he was a quarterback.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's what chat GPT you is saying.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Now you're gonna You're gonna get in another fight now?
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, What was your prompt, Matt.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Who should get in this loser? Eli Manning?
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Or we should get into the All Time Football Hall
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: of Fame first, Eli Manning or out of Vinity area.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: And then it gave me a.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Whole put in like NFL all time leading score.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: In terms of immediate induction. Eli Manning likely has the
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: edge due to his prominent role at quarterback in postseason
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: heroic heroics.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Doesn't have postseason heroics.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: The greatest kick in history.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: He's in a bit of a I'm not I'm yelling
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: at her or him?
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: What did I miss?
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Earlier?
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Was there something?
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: When no Speed had prompted chat gpt to figure out
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: if we were indeed the world's original podcast and Fred
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: was not having some of the responses.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: He wasn't either, But at the end of the day
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: it concluded that we are.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, Oh really, Fred convinced it's wrong kind of a lot.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I would never use that for anything and not.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Double check at all.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you definitely have to double check it. But it's
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: wrong in like silly ways sometimes. One time I was
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: trying to look up what was older I think mon
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: Talk or Newport, and it listed exactly the year of
• 34:20
  Speaker 7: when each town was incorporated, and then said Montalk was older.
• 34:24
  Speaker 7: And I was like, but you said that Newport was
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: incorporated two years earlier, So.
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: What do you mean? And it was like, oh, yeah, haha,
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: you're right. Sorry, It's like, okay.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: It does that a lot. Well, it just gives up.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: But it's all based on doesn't argue information that's on
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: the internet.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, it has to be right, right, yeah, and
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: we all know that anything you see on the internet has.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: To be true right now. I got Lane onto it.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: She started using it just for like busy work, like
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: having to like write an email, like you know sometimes
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: you have to write an email you don't really want
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: to write, and she's so she's uh, I got I
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: got her onto that.
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: I officiated my cousin's wedding last year and I had
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: Chatchid write it. I said, these are all the stats,
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: please write me a fifteen minute wedding room.
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: No, all my friends have been doing that.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: What the kind of stats is that you know?
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: This is my cousin. She's marrying this guy. I haven't
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: met him yet.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: May he's six and zero and Dome games. Trying to
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: work that in somehow to the wedding.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Sure, I love it, Jason writes in He says this
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: week's game against Miami is a make break game for me.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: With these coaches, a divisional opponent you've seen once this year,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: and an offense, specifically Drake May on the rise. I
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: expect these coaches to come out with a winning game plan.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I will not be nearly as worried if the players
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: lose the game as I will be if they come
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: out with a bad game plan. This is a team
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: you're supposed to know inside and out when they aren't
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: playing particularly well. Do you guys agree, He says, twenty
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: seven to twenty three Patriots.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: They're owing six against two of.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Them, Like, so, what do we consider last week's game?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Was that a bad game plan loss? Or is that
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: the players? According to the experts, But that's my point.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: The defense says it was a bad game plan. That's
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: my point.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, if we're just gonna say if they lose
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: it was a bad game plan, then why are we
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: gonna wait to see how it unfolds? Like they got
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I don't care what the game plan was last week.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: The other team's players were better. That's why they lost,
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: right right, Yeah, And you.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: Had the greatest coach of all time trying to come
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: up with a plan to get a win over this team,
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: and he was able to do it. I think you're
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: putting a little bit it's too much on this.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: It's easy to just say, well, they lost because they
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: had a bad game plan.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And nobody loves divisional games more than me, Like
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: nobody makes more of a deal more than me, you know.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: But I mean, I think it just comes down to talent.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, I would love it if they came up
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: with something to slow this offense down. I mean, it's
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I got to do more of a little deep dive though, Paul,
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: maybe I could use your brain for that. Like I'm like,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: was was it really McDaniel's McDaniel taking the Patriots defense
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: to the woodshed with Tua or was it just kind
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: of six games that unfolded? And I mean, I know
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: they had a chance to win a couple of those
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: that were set by turnovers near the end.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Or I would say for the most part, they have
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: not run rough shot over the Patriots.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: It was like seven and seven touchdowns, five intercepting something
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: like that. It's not, it's not.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Some of those games have unfolded in like I would
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: say like Week two last year would be an example.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Like the Patriots.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: The Patriots had a very hard time stopping the Dolphins
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: on that Sunday night game, but at the end of
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: the day, you look up, it was only twenty four points.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: The Miami missed a couple of field goals the end
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: of the game. I think they were in scoring range
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: when they kneeled on the ball, like they drove down
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: the field at the end and ran out the clock.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: So I think they could have scored over thirty had
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: they been sharper, but the bottom liners they only scored
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: twenty four points. Yeah, so I think I don't think
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: it's been an example of.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: They're just you know, down the don money every time.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, I remember, like a Damien Harris fumble. I
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: think in twenty one, maybe they're going down to maybe
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: take the lead or tie it and Harris fumbled it
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: and they go down. You know, like there were moments
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: like that in some of these games where you felt
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: like I remember the other one with with Mac down there,
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: maybe twenty two, the opener where you were probably there, yeah,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Rick one like and it was like an interception right
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: on the first drive.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Where things have happened down there. People remember, was it
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Kevin fok who fumbled on the goal line that one year?
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: You remember that stuff, right, Yeah, suddenly we got Kevin Falkon.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just staying over the years. Other than the
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Miami miracle, I mean that was crazy, but now, I mean,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: weird stuff have happened, like weird stuff.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I would put the corpse of Stephen Jackson game in
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: the weird stuff happened when Bill just decided I'm going
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: to run the ball every play of the whole first half.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Why like, why did he do that? What was going on?
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: There was a lot of injuries, right, I remember that,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: but I don't. I don't know.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I don't remember a lot of injuries. To be honest
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: with you, I have no idea what he was thinking.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan and Kansas rights in. I have a bad
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: feeling about the defense the Miami offense likes the motion
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: as well as the rams, and if we have Gonzo
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: on the outside guarding Odell or Malik Washington instead of
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Waddle or Hill, I'm going to turn my TV off.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: I have no faith and DeMarcus coming to an adjusting
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: to this high motion offense, especially with Tua running the show.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Final point linebacker is a real sneaky need for next year.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: It feels like every time we play zone there's a
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: wide open man in the middle of the field and
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: a linebacker being caught with his feet in the mud.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, I think it's
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: an interesting how you approach it because you get Juwan
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Bentley back, but you know he's starting to get up
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: there a little bit, and you just can't get caught
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: next year like you were caught this year. I love
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: when you steal Evans steipe too.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: He doesn't know it's not.
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: Just put the ft back empty one there.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: But I do think they need to build in a
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: little bit of a contingency plan next year to just
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: have a complimentary interior player, like I mean, I think
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: even elainein Roberts was here when Bentley was farmed and
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: not that he specifically is the answer, or you know,
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: but just a downhill inside linebacker who can stop the
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: run and you know, is comfortable inside it Just it
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: doesn't seem like Jilani Tavai is comfortable inside doing all
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: the things that the inside life that's really interesting.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Would you rather, you know, that kind of a solution.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe get a veteran like a Landon Roberts, not saying
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: it has to be Roberts, but someone who fills that
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: kind of role. Or would you rather see if they
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: could find, you know, a Rokwan Smith. Oh boy, you know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I don't mean necessarily a free agent. I'm saying, would
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: you look for a three down linebacker who can play
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: the run and doesn't necessarily have to come off the field.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: I would love that. I would love it. I mean,
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't want to say anything bad about
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: Jawan Bentley. I think he's a leader on this team.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: I think he's a physical player. But I think ultimately
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: they're gonna need the next guy for that defense eventually.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: I mean I just think back to and not all
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: of those guys panned out, but like you know, like
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Patrick Queen and Kenneth Murray and you know, uh, Devin White,
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: you know those guys. Devin Bush was another one. Like, yeah,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: there was like five or six of these guys. They
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: came out some I mean, strange draft. They've all been
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: decent played e Lloyd from Jacksonville, he's been pretty good,
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: but some of them haven't necessarily been what they were
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: supposed to be, you know. And Nikobe Dean was kind
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: of that kind of player, but he was so banged up. Like,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: you don't necessarily have to take those guys, you know,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: the top of the first round. Sure, some of them
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: have been not these some of them have been high
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: draft picks. But some of those other guys weren't.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: What was Landon Roberts he was. He was like a
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: six or seventh round pick.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Landon Roberts is a early down guys, I understand. But
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: those other you know, some of those guys were first
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: round picks, you know, and that's what you have to
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: do to get those. But I would be interested in
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: trying to find one of those rather than just plugging
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: it in with a veteran.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Me Too, Me Too call in Chicago is a longtime listener,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: occasionally mail or former paper subscriber, former Center of Chicago
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: popcorn and he he wants to guess at my five
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: most hated teams. Oh now, so can you do this
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: without giving it away? Yeah? Okay, so he says Jets
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: number one, Spygate and just general discuss two Colts, the
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: flake Gate and plenty of other things. Three broncos. I
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: know they are a team of his youth, but sharp
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: on the phone calling the National Guards cements them for
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: the Dolphins just because in five Now I'm guessing, but
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: New York Giants for ruining several seasons. Well, we'll see,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna guess, and I don't know the answers,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: but I'm going to guess that you have two out
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: of the five, and I'm not gonna I'm gonna respect
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Fred's privacy.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Privacy, Well, I just don't want to spoil it for
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: our news.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: I think there's definitely one missing. Yeah, there was definitely
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: one missing.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Look at her.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: There is there is, without question, one that I know
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: for certain was not included in that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Ah, so highly anticipated, Stay mom, Stay mom. You
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  Speaker 7: That emails coming out Friday, Well, you guys will see
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  Speaker 7: Oh no, I see, okay, so you'll see it today.
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  Speaker 2: I'd have to read it, but I could see the draft. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Some people that open? To explain it if I don't
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  Speaker 7: It's a really complicated term, but it actually really is
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  Speaker 7: open the email.
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  Speaker 8: There's something.
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  Speaker 4: You're touching a nerve here.
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  Speaker 3: I meant, how do you know?
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  Speaker 7: The open rate is really high considering how many like
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  Speaker 8: Like, Yeah, I don't know people who I was pretty excited.
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  Speaker 2: People who emailed.
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  Speaker 4: The show and seven, you know, all of a sudden.
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• 44:30
  Speaker 11: I mean you know with us like engaged on the show,
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  Speaker 2: Has redrafted the QBS for twenty twenty four. His order
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: was as follows. Number one, Daniels, number two, May, number three, Williams,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: number four Nicks. Just by Paul's infamous eye tests, we
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: can see that May is playing better than Williams. We
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: can also see that Daniels is starting to slip. Is
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: there any chance that at the end of the year
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: everyone will be talking about Drake May being the top
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: QB in the class?
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, if you're going to go so. But if you're
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: going to do that fairly, bo Nix is at the
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: top right now on the eye test. Now, I think
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: bo Nicks is asked to do.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: The least of those four. But his numbers are good.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: He was phenomenalized. So he threw for over three hundred
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: yards and four touchdowns and against a good team and
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: by the way, tricky element of this, he's winning the games, right,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: you know, so if you want to be if you
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: want to be fair about it, that that would be
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: the thing where I sort of had my eyebrows raised
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: for Rolasky is no mention of the fact that he
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: wanted to sit him not one but two years.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: He says he's.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: Really close to putting Drake Man. And I'm not here
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: to make fun of his take.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, i am, but I'm not. I'm not.
• 45:55
  Speaker 8: I'm not not making fun of the take.
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: It's just like, hey, remember when you said this, I'm
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: making fun of the.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: Fact that he has seemingly refused to acknowledge the take.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: What about everybody everybody misses?
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not telling I'm not telling you that he should
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: not he should be drawn in quarter because his take
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: was wrong.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: But just say, hey, Licken, I was off.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Everybody misses. If you're in the opinion business and you're
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: not going to be right all the time, and so
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: when you're wrong, you say it.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Who was the one was that Chris Simpsons said he's
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: going to get a coaches fired. Yep, Meryl Hodge, Meryl Hodge,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: sorry Chris.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Out there, But again, I'm not criticizing the take. But
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: if Meryl Hodge goes on now and says Drake may
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: is the best quarterback in this draft and never says
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: which surprises me because I.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Thought he would be a coach killer.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: A coach killer. There's nothing wrong with if he says
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: all of that. But you're not telling the whole story
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: by Danie Rolosky, not telling the fact that he thought
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: he needed to sit not one but two years before
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: he'd be ready, and now telling you he is really
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: close to saying I would take him one. Overall, he
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: is only telling half of the story. And by the way,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels is also hurt, like that's part of you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: his sort of leveling off. And again they're winning the games.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: That's that needs to count.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: It does uh. Diego is an Argentinian fan living in Milford, Connecticut.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: I discovered the podcast last year and since then I've
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: tried not losing any single podcast. My name is Diego.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: I live in Milford. I will tell you in another
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: email how I became a Patriots fan. But I have
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: two questions for the time being.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: One.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: On Tuesday's podcast, you mentioned the possibility of Belichick going
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: to the Jaguars, but you missed to mention that he
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: will be coaching Mack again. Wouldn't that be hilarious or
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: very sad for.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Mac Joe that wouldn't be on the teams. No, Max
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: a free agent.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: They're not going to resign him. Okay, all right, but
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: it's kind of funny. Two. Regarding Matt Jones during his
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: first season, when we got to the playoffs, what were
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: you saying about him? What did you think his ceiling was?
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: About Mac Mac?
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: I think back then, if you're asking what I thought
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: is different than everybody else. I thought he was a stiff.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Now, I thought I was excited that they got to
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: the players in his first year, and I was hoping
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: because I saw the drop off in the second half
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: of the year, that in second year he'd take that
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: big jump. Yeah, me too, And then the Patricia thing
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: happened and everything fell apart.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's about help. But I mean I was
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: definitely more optimistic or holding out hope, probably longer about him,
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: I'd say now, having watched Drake do what Drake has done,
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: it certainly affects how I look back on Mac now
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: and some of the things that we weren't seeing, which
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: is I think it's just more credit to Drake of
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: how much he's improved. And it's just like I think
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: I want to ran on Tuesday about it's just so noticeable,
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: Like I've never seen a kid like all Right really
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: make strides within the season, and you know some of
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: the things that they were talked about with the dan
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Orlowski like, it looks pretty good right now. And and
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: you know, I think as good as as solid as
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Mac was? Can I call him solid out of the gate?
• 49:09
  Speaker 12: Was that?
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: What? Like?
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Is that a good word?
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: I would solid?
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: Now I wouldn't. But he was okay. He was okay
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: out of the gate. I mean, he seemed to understand
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: what was going on. He had some pocket presence, but
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: you know, you just you didn't see the progress and.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: It wasn't it was just his fault. He wasn't tested
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: that first half. They they coddled him and it was
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: a big miss. Diego also says, these days we are
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: all talking about how impressive May looks right now and
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: that he might be the one. Did you think the
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: same about mac Or always thought it was going to
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: be average? Yeah? I didn't have.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: I thought there'd always be limitations, you know, there always
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: be limitations. I think I might have fooled myself into
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: believing that they can overcome it. If they have enough
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: and they play you know, complimentary football, and everything kind
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: of works together, they'll they'll be okay.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: He would be okay in that scenario. But if you
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: had the absolute best team in football and didn't ask
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: him to do anything outside of the box, he would
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: He'd be able to hand the ball off and throw
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: the ball three yards.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: And backup quarterback.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: You'd be all right.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Brian from Plymouth has been emailing every show asking for
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: an update on the security guard who got wiped out
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: on Sunday. So now that was rough to watch. Those
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: people need backup camp so they can see the play coming.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: In any event, both the security guard and Pop need
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: to learn the art of the look back when your
• 50:22
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• 50:25
  Speaker 2: From what I understand, she's fine. We did get an update.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Matt Morrell looked into it and she's doing fine. Great,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: like not like in the hospital or anything. She's fine.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Looked like she hit her head. That's why I was worthy.
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so scary.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, We're gonna take a break when we
• 50:40
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• 50:51
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• 50:54
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  Speaker 12: Good morning, Yeah, but as all as always you know,
• 52:30
  Speaker 12: winners are draw on Wednesday, which we changed the page.
• 52:32
  Speaker 12: No different uh this week. I did, you know, have
• 52:35
  Speaker 12: an opportunity today in the squad meeting to kind of
• 52:38
  Speaker 12: show the areas that we've improved at and things that
• 52:40
  Speaker 12: we just have to get better. And I think the
• 52:42
  Speaker 12: guys really took uh took that stuff to heart. You know,
• 52:45
  Speaker 12: one thing just on on both sides of the ball
• 52:47
  Speaker 12: as far as targets are concerned, is protecting the football
• 52:49
  Speaker 12: and the takeaways, Like we just have to do a
• 52:52
  Speaker 12: better job.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 52:53
  Speaker 12: In those two areas. You know, it's good to get
• 52:55
  Speaker 12: back in the division. I we'll say, you know, this
• 52:57
  Speaker 12: isn't the same uh Dolphins team that we played before.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 53:01
  Speaker 12: That was also a reminder to the guys where you
• 53:03
  Speaker 12: feel like you know a team at the same time. Uh,
• 53:06
  Speaker 12: they're gonna do things different and too us here and
• 53:08
  Speaker 12: you can you can see, uh, just the difference in
• 53:12
  Speaker 12: that offense with Tua out there, very good player for him.
• 53:15
  Speaker 12: Talk about their receivers obviously, one word to describe those
• 53:18
  Speaker 12: guys are as fast. Those guys are are blazers. And
• 53:22
  Speaker 12: you know we have some fast guys on defense too,
• 53:23
  Speaker 12: so this you know, will probably be a little bit
• 53:25
  Speaker 12: more of a matchup game. But those guys have fast
• 53:28
  Speaker 12: players on the outside. I will say the backs don't
• 53:30
  Speaker 12: get enough love. I think their running backs are very good,
• 53:32
  Speaker 12: especially with the scheme that they run, and then the
• 53:35
  Speaker 12: tight end. You know, Johnny was doing a good job
• 53:38
  Speaker 12: and has been coming on as of late as far
• 53:40
  Speaker 12: as his run after catch stuff. So doing a good
• 53:43
  Speaker 12: job for him there. Defensively, starts up front, starts up
• 53:47
  Speaker 12: front with the bigs, you know, Siler and Campbell, very
• 53:52
  Speaker 12: very active, very active upfront It's going to be a
• 53:55
  Speaker 12: challenge or an opportunity for us to go out there
• 53:57
  Speaker 12: and do a good job on those guys. Once you
• 53:59
  Speaker 12: get the down guys there, you know, you go to
• 54:01
  Speaker 12: the next level. I would say Brooks is doing a
• 54:03
  Speaker 12: good job as the season continues to progress. And then
• 54:06
  Speaker 12: obviously in the back end you have some good players
• 54:08
  Speaker 12: there in Ramsey and Holland and the rest of those guys.
• 54:10
  Speaker 12: So definitely going to be a huge challenge for us.
• 54:14
  Speaker 12: One piece of good news, you know, Cole Strange will
• 54:17
  Speaker 12: return to practice today, which is exciting not only just
• 54:21
  Speaker 12: you know, for him to get back out there, but
• 54:23
  Speaker 12: just understanding the journey that he is taking to even
• 54:26
  Speaker 12: get to this point. And oftentimes those things get you know,
• 54:30
  Speaker 12: get looked over, but it is a journey, you know,
• 54:32
  Speaker 12: anytime you're coming back from injury, which I know, I
• 54:35
  Speaker 12: know the feeling, it's not a straight line to getting
• 54:38
  Speaker 12: back to you know, the way you used to play.
• 54:40
  Speaker 12: It takes time, going through rehab and all those things.
• 54:42
  Speaker 12: It's been a long year for Coal, but again, excited
• 54:46
  Speaker 12: to have him out there.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Questions that's there, Kikay, Is there a timeline for when
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Cole may be able to return to the game field,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: or you're kind of just taking a.
• 54:56
  Speaker 12: Day by you just got to take a day by day.
• 54:58
  Speaker 12: Like I said, you know, it is his first time
• 54:59
  Speaker 12: going to be out there, first time out there. Just
• 55:01
  Speaker 12: take it one day at a time.
• 55:03
  Speaker 10: Previously, the cole can see snaps at center, will be
• 55:06
  Speaker 10: focused on center comes back or will it play guards?
• 55:09
  Speaker 12: Well, first, I think, you know, just going through the
• 55:11
  Speaker 12: individual drills and see how he responds to that stuff
• 55:13
  Speaker 12: is the most important thing. He does have the flexibility
• 55:16
  Speaker 12: to play center and play guard. He's been getting extra
• 55:18
  Speaker 12: work at center. Dave Andrews has a good job with
• 55:21
  Speaker 12: him as well. You know, going back to you know
• 55:23
  Speaker 12: a guy that you know he's on IR for the year,
• 55:26
  Speaker 12: but just his leadership remains in the building. And one
• 55:29
  Speaker 12: of those tasks has been, you know, to help Cole
• 55:32
  Speaker 12: understand the center position while he wasn't able to be
• 55:34
  Speaker 12: on a practice shield.
• 55:36
  Speaker 16: You look at Miami, I'm sure you asked them, looked
• 55:39
  Speaker 16: at this that if you four straight and lost six
• 55:41
  Speaker 16: of seven, do you.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Do anything different as a head coach?
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Do you get on earlier?
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Do you how do you look at what goes on
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: in Miami?
• 55:47
  Speaker 12: For you guys as a franchise, you know, I would
• 55:49
  Speaker 12: say this year it's you know, when you go to
• 55:51
  Speaker 12: Miami at this point in the year is a lot
• 55:52
  Speaker 12: different than going to Miami at the beginning of the year.
• 55:54
  Speaker 12: And so for us, you know it all it comes
• 55:56
  Speaker 12: down to execution. That's what it comes down to.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: We didn't ask you about the city or those as
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: a team moved on in Tapewon Porty, you know, saying
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: at Kansas City, study your thoughts and I.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Went into the decision.
• 56:07
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think you know, there was a lot of
• 56:08
  Speaker 12: love for Taekwon and obviously he's a fast receiver and
• 56:11
  Speaker 12: he did a lot of things right and saying that
• 56:14
  Speaker 12: we're always trying to do what's best for our football team.
• 56:17
  Speaker 16: Trov just kind of curious, what are your weekly interactions
• 56:20
  Speaker 16: like with Drake Bady sit down with him one on
• 56:22
  Speaker 16: one do you totally leave him the a VP, Like,
• 56:24
  Speaker 16: what's your interact now?
• 56:26
  Speaker 12: I think the head coach always have to have a
• 56:27
  Speaker 12: good relationship with the starting quarterback and we talk every day.
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: Keith Wallace uh piven o'clock.
• 56:34
  Speaker 12: Or not yet, not yet, not yet, don'tkid one at
• 56:37
  Speaker 12: a time like one at a time.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: Drug what'd you guys see from Titus Lee up?
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Do you want to work with him?
• 56:44
  Speaker 12: Just a versatile player, has good sized, good athleticism, and
• 56:46
  Speaker 12: hopefully he can help us on defense and really special
• 56:49
  Speaker 12: teams as well.
• 56:50
  Speaker 8: Did you get all?
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 56:53
  Speaker 8: We're trying of a lot of time, But did you
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: guys have a lection chet?
• 56:57
  Speaker 12: No?
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Drug?
• 56:59
  Speaker 16: When you see that the way that Trade has been
• 57:00
  Speaker 16: playing seems to be improving each week. Is there any
• 57:03
  Speaker 16: part of you that's surprised with how well l he's
• 57:05
  Speaker 16: been playing?
• 57:06
  Speaker 12: No? I will say this, you know that one of
• 57:08
  Speaker 12: his strengths that you continue to see now, he's not
• 57:11
  Speaker 12: a repeat era guy and there are definitely looks that
• 57:14
  Speaker 12: he still hasn't seen or we haven't practice against, and
• 57:16
  Speaker 12: you know they may confuse him at first, but he's
• 57:18
  Speaker 12: not a repeat air guy. And that's a that's a
• 57:20
  Speaker 12: good trait for a quarterback that I know.
• 57:22
  Speaker 10: He said, I believe the extending place is the most
• 57:25
  Speaker 10: fall you on the quarterback, because quarterreck, when did you
• 57:28
  Speaker 10: come to believe that?
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: And what made you come to that realization?
• 57:31
  Speaker 12: I mean, look at look at the quarterbacks around the
• 57:33
  Speaker 12: league that we throw in the top tier, all of
• 57:36
  Speaker 12: them have the ability to extend plays. Now, with that
• 57:38
  Speaker 12: being said, he is a quarterback and there are times
• 57:40
  Speaker 12: where it's like just stay in the pocket and throw
• 57:42
  Speaker 12: the ball. But to be able to at least even
• 57:44
  Speaker 12: have the threat of scrambling definitely helps offenses out and
• 57:49
  Speaker 12: the offensive.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Line that time.
• 57:50
  Speaker 10: It's different from the other quarterbacks you faced. You know,
• 57:52
  Speaker 10: when you were playing right, most pocket bound guys, and
• 57:55
  Speaker 10: since you started coaching year, you know, the top quarterbacks
• 57:58
  Speaker 10: have that account of mobility and ability to extend it.
• 58:00
  Speaker 10: Is that something that changed in your philosophy or viewpoint
• 58:02
  Speaker 10: during those periods.
• 58:03
  Speaker 12: I would say there was a mix of quarterbacks at
• 58:05
  Speaker 12: least when I played. You know, it may not be
• 58:07
  Speaker 12: the let's say, the Lamar Jackson, but you got to think,
• 58:10
  Speaker 12: like Michael Vick was doing some of that stuff. And
• 58:12
  Speaker 12: I would also throw a guy like Ben Roethlisberger in there,
• 58:14
  Speaker 12: who he wasn't very elusive, but it was hard to
• 58:17
  Speaker 12: bring down in the pocket. And so I mean, I'm
• 58:19
  Speaker 12: sure you've seen all the mistackles on Ben Roethlisberger, but
• 58:22
  Speaker 12: that also is an extended Playfully way back, we're back.
• 58:30
  Speaker 16: Every team seems to have at least two really top
• 58:32
  Speaker 16: tier receivers from.
• 58:33
  Speaker 12: The Bengals of Seattle.
• 58:35
  Speaker 11: Last week, you guys dealt with cup in Nakula. How
• 58:38
  Speaker 11: do you guys determine when you see wattle and Tyreek hilt?
• 58:41
  Speaker 16: How do you determine what you're gonna do in the
• 58:44
  Speaker 16: secondary week to week into the conversation stuff.
• 58:47
  Speaker 12: I think the first thing this is a little bit different.
• 58:49
  Speaker 12: You know, you look at last week it was more
• 58:51
  Speaker 12: about the size matchup. This week is about the speed matchup.
• 58:54
  Speaker 12: And you know, we've we have guys in the locker
• 58:56
  Speaker 12: room who have covered those guys relatively well, and we
• 58:59
  Speaker 12: just have to continue to do that. I would say
• 59:00
  Speaker 12: when you look at when you look at like matchups
• 59:03
  Speaker 12: like that, you know, it's always fun to see a
• 59:06
  Speaker 12: guy travel with the guy. But again, you know they
• 59:09
  Speaker 12: learned you and you're learning them during the game, and
• 59:11
  Speaker 12: I think there is something that's sometimes changing those matchups up.
• 59:14
  Speaker 12: Just to throw it off, I was.
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: Gonna ask somewhat similar questions, being somewhat big, secular, open extaement.
• 59:21
  Speaker 14: They have speedy guys, You have speedy.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Guys that might people were of a matchup.
• 59:26
  Speaker 12: No, that's right, that's exactly right.
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: It was wonder de Fens and he follow off of
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: the Rams game where some of our discussion with Christian.
• 59:35
  Speaker 12: Which is which is you know it's it's a fair
• 59:37
  Speaker 12: point what I would say, Like in the Man I
• 59:39
  Speaker 12: went back and looked at that as well. So in
• 59:41
  Speaker 12: the Manda Man snaps, Christian was on one of those
• 59:45
  Speaker 12: top two guys the majority of the time and now
• 59:47
  Speaker 12: on zone like I mean, it really doesn't matter. Now
• 59:49
  Speaker 12: I shouldn't say doesn't matter where he is, but in
• 59:51
  Speaker 12: those Manda Man snaps, he was for the most part
• 59:53
  Speaker 12: where we wanted him to be.
• 59:54
  Speaker 16: Try did you've watched the Dolphins up two of him
• 59:57
  Speaker 16: since he became their quarterback?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: Why does he did this offense.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 12: So long and comes out so quickness?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: That's right?
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think I think the first thing is like
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 12: you have a bunch of receivers and now even putting
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 12: the back and Johnny in there as well, that you
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 12: know they have good run after catchability and you hit
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 12: it on the head. You know, the quickness that the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 12: ball comes out and gives those guys an opportunity to
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 12: run is definitely a strength to us.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Live Quarterback wide Receiver conversation.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: How much of it all this history played?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: We talk about a guy specifically like Jonathan jos.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 12: I think you take those things into consideration while at
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 12: the same time, you know, maintaining the right to kind
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 12: of change those matchups.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 16: So Miami historically has been a weird place for this
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 16: team to play, no matter at the time of the year.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 12: What do you think that is.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 16: Do you address that with the guys this week?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 12: I think it well, first and foremost. I won't address
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 12: it with the guys as far as like the struggles
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 12: that we've had in Miami, even though they're probably listening
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 12: to me right now. But what I will say is
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 12: every game is unique. Every game is unique. It's a
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 12: tough place to play. It's not that it's like super
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 12: loud or anything like that. We just we just haven't
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 12: been able to get over the hump.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: So sorry to keep parking on.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: The matchups in and now great moments in.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: History. Eric and Paul show a feeling for the league.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Jacksonville wins this game. They do, in fact, get that
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: I took the Houston points.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: What about the cover I took the heree and a
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: half Jacksonville by three and a half. Yeah, you took
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: jackson So you want the point you lay in the points, pleepless.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: They're gonna They're gonna win by more's He's winnings on
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: both sides.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, He's winning.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: They're gonna win now, you know.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Want to know why I have that face? Some of
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: these are not intentional?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh, this is your lock of the week. Upset
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Lock of the week Pittsburgh over the Titans. What was
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: the spread?
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 15: To two?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Huge upset too.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: They're gonna win by more big upset. The New England
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: money is not coming in, so that worries me. That
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: worries me in this game. What do they know? What
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: do they know? But I'm gonna say nothing. They know nothing.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Oh I thought you were gonna say nothing.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's done that plenty Yeah.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: Patriots prevail twenty eight nineteen Patriots.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: My favorite part of the friend is twenty when he
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: gives picks on games that there's some thought too, like
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: that one. Right, He's tortured for a minute and then
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: it's really you go either way and then six away
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: for a two score win.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another great moment.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: All right back here and Patriot's unfiltered a five to
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: five past five hundred is the TPX hotline podcasts at
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Patriots dot Com. Is the email address. Jay has a
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: good email. It's a candidate for Email of the Week.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: In the newsletter, it says, first off, love the show,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: especially when Fred and Paul argue when they agree with
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: each other. Me too, we argue when we agree. But
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I've had several gripes this year and I want to
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: get them off my chest. One Alex and Evans attendance
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: is poor to me. They're unbelievably good members and I
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: love when they're on, but it's disappointing that fifty percent
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: of the shows don't have one or the other. I
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: understand that it's due to change and schedule with the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: team in the league, but I feel like something can
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: be done. Okay, well, you know, we leave, we leave
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: you wanting more, not really, not really for we leave
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: you wanting more anyway. Number two Alex Barth does not
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: know what rapid fire means. Dude needs to make a
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: point and move on. We'll have to take that up
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: with Evan when he comes here.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Three, Alex, the woman needs to elaborate on her freaking picks. Okay, okay,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: I kind of like her style, and we have to hurry.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 8: We have to there's not much to elaborate on.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: We have to hurry. Four. No Socks needs to get
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: the good, the bad, and the injured list so much
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: sooner he lets it drag on and on until he does.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: It's so annoying. Good, the bad, and the injured.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: Well, I think we've done the good, the bad, the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: injured before we start the good, the bad, and the injury.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Five. The good, bad, and injured list is the best
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: part of the post game shows. Stop consolidating the list
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: and take your time. For instance, Oh, the whole defense
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: was great today. Say more talk about all the individual players,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: especially after a win. We're riding a high. Well that
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: doesn't come too often. Frid Well, we only had three
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: so far. Uh makes it sound so mean. And still
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: on No Socks, he needs to understand what part of good, bad,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: and injured you're in, because he always has some weird
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: interjection with a negative in the good list or an
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: injured player when you're on the bad list.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: Oh, that's funny, so it's good.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: I haven't total help him out with that. I do try, right,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: but I don't know.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: Do you notice the last part there that he when
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: we're in the middle of the good list, he talks
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: about bad things.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: Oh I don't know, No, not so much.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: In general.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: In life, well, Susan, Yeah, we Mike, I have sort
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: of I think he's getting better every week.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's just like we already know Matt
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: and we already have a little bit of a rapport
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: with him. So I think it's just settling into that,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: like into what we're normally just sitting in the bullpen
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: down here.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: The one thing that I've been trying to really get
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: him to come out and do is offer his thoughts.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: He wants to be sort of traditional host. I'm gonna
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: set the table and I'm gonna let Mike and Paul
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: Shine opine.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: But I think he needs to opine more.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, sure, that's where heart he did a little
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: bit Kickers usually right every time they'd score a touchdown,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: Nick Folk would make the extra point, he'd write down, I.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Got one, everybody, Lee writes in High Gentleman and Alex
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I love the stripped down start to Patriots Unfiltered, with
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: the senior members arguing whilst Alex looks on probably in
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: complete bewilderment of them. Arguing, arguing in agreement.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 7: You were stuck in one of those like when two
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: dogs are fighting each other and you're like if I
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 7: jump on them?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: Just in the AML too, look on her face was
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: exactly as the email are just described.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: It was like, what am I doing here?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: No, I was smiling, it was entertaining.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 7: I was thinking in my head like it'd be cool
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 7: for the listeners to be able to have like a
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 7: front row seat to it and be in the room
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 7: while it's manifesting.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: It's it's it's it's fun to listen to. But at
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: the same time, like there, You're like, are they arguing
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: the same thing? I'm like, I'd get in on this
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: if there was a side, But I feel like they're
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: both on the same side and there's some are arguing.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: So it's two days in a row. Two It was
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: on Adam.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: It was on Adam yesterday and today it was we
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: agree that Van Pelt is doing a good job.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: What's right now we're arguing about it.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: All that thing.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Fred. I have some concerns. Firstly, we haven't seen Tamara
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: in a long time. I hope she's okay. She's been
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: on the post game show, pregame she just I'd be
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: in the pregame show every week. Yeah. Secondly, Paul seems
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: to be in some sort of predicament car concerns, no
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: longer eating on the show. Can you drive around and
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: do a welfare check on him as part of your
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: boss man duties?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: I have finances of hit hard.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: I have a query as to what you think of
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: last year's draft class now they are no longer rookies, Douglas, White,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Gonzales all look like NFL caliber players and similar to
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: parliamentry by Booty as to his progression will continue and
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: what causes move from frankly bust to looking like he
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: belongs in the league. Is it the change in coaches
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: and approach? I think it's it's him. He just decided
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: I'm going.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: To keep working at it, because he went through the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: spring in most of the summer in the same spot
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: that he was in sort of fringe.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: Moster guy, hanging on, kind of fighting.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: According to the coaches, it was his sort of progression
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: on the practice field that pushed it. He was inactive
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: earlier in the year, right, yeah, a couple of times. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: So I would agree overall though, like that draft class
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: looks Okay, you know, Gonzales and White I think look
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: like two guys that should be part of your defense
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: going forward. And I think you get I think Douglas
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: and Booty you are both probably going to be part
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: of your receiving group. Now you need obviously better than that,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: but they're going to be part of it. So that's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: that's four players that you're going to have going forward
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: from one class.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: That's not bad. I echoed that.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: I'm curious about Marty Mapoo right now. I know, actually
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: Jabill Peppers has his next court date tomorrow, so maybe
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: we'll get an update on his status. But I mean
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: there's a very good chance he's never gonna dress to
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: the Patriots again. Marty Maphu didn't dress last week. Is
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: he part of the solution long term? You know, how
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: do you feel about Kyle Dugart, Del Pattis and Mapou
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: next year or is that a significant need that they
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: might have to look at it.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: I wonder if Mapu didn't dress because of something physical.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: He's mean, he's been on with a neck, he's had
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: a neck injury, or if they just decided, But I mean,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: even you know, one little thing I noticed is Del
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: delp has us play more snap than then the other
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: guy right now, jamis you know just I mean it
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: could be circumstantial, but still it's uh not great.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: Something to note, but that's not really a shot at
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: del pettis the secondary struggle.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Sure, you know, Brian wrote in and this is for you, dues.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: He wants to know if you have an update on
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: bil Peppers.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: I just gave him man courrow. We could do that
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: on tomorrow. Tomorrow Tomorrow is next time he'll be.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: But so you really think that we've we will not
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: see him again.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: I kind of think that's the way I'm leaning, right,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: I mean unless tomorrow they come out, And I mean
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 4: why if there was a videotape of something, wouldn't they
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: have been here?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: It is Oh geez, the ladies.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 7: Maybe we talked about this all the time, like I'm leaving,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 7: I'm leaking at the next day, That's what I do,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: you know.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 8: And he's been like he's dropping.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: Some music don't like in the last so really, what's
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: he doing now?
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 7: This is like talk We were wondering what he was doing.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 7: And then later that week I saw him posting like.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: Round he's getting into his music now. See it's not
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: a good sign like he's on this transitioning his music career.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: Jacob and Illinois. I'd like to address a glaring p
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: U Crew injustice. Fred. You must be mister crabs for
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: how you live comfortably wearing designer clothes because Marshals is
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: beneath you, having your lawn mode for you and going
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: to restaurants where you shot Dane to carry your drink. Meanwhile,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: the man next to you can't afford to keep his
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: car to snuff with the state and can't update the wardrobe.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: You incessantly bully him for loosen your purse strings. You
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: miserable whatever. Paying Paul shouldn't be that hard. Something else
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: that isn't hard, easy to drink, easy to enjoy the
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: official beverage of Paul Perilla.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: I got your butt.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: All of this isn't just keep up the amazing work.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: Shout out Biggie my brother from another mother trucker.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 8: What a Marshalls slanderous This is a Marshall's fine right here.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: First, people, though, I'm Marshalls hashtag TEAMJS. Well maybe you
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: work there, Alex. You can provide some insight on this.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: Fred says that the clothes that they send to Marshals
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 4: are actually lesser quality than the clothes they sell in
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: the regular store.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Would you concur and or we're damaged?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: Okay, So to my understanding, it's a mix of irregular stuff,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 7: stuff that was over purchased for retail stores, and then
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 7: a lot of what you're seeing now is like maybe
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 7: brands that are past their heyday a little and they're
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 7: on the decline, and then that's when they get into
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 7: your Marshals and stuff. I think there's probably some that
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 7: manufacture specifically.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: I think you're right.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 7: I cannot confirm that I was just a lucky I
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 7: was a very lowly sixteen seventeen year old sales associate.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: I worked in the if you're if.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: You're a young kid and you and you've just got
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: your first or second job, and it's a place where
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: you kind of have to work. Everything you have to
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: dress every day go to Marshalls.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 7: So it depends on the Marshalls too. Yeah, you go
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 7: even one in Newton. They have legitimate designer stuff like
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 7: in glass cases, like you need someone to get in there.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 17: You go to like bother and speaking by So I'm
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 17: in CBS the other day, okay, and I needed to
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 17: buy soap bar soap on the slot it's locked up.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to get assistanced the case to get
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: soap soap?
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 10: Is that?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: I said to her? I said, people really stealing.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 7: So she's like, if you go to the ink blot
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 7: anywhere in the ink blot or like, you can't even
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 7: just go in.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 8: And get anything. It was all locked up at least
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 8: last time I was, which is ra yeah expensive.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: You know any formula, drugs, formula, this.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Is just normal.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 8: Well, they're making meth out of suit of fed.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 4: Sounds like it sounds like an.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 6: Opportunity, melting the soap and repurposing it and selling it
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 6: on the black market. It's like, what are they building
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: it into then reselling it themselves?
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Is that right? Wow, that's what the Google says. Oh
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: my god.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: Ept, well you can imagine, you know, I don't care.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. A new unlocked about the Marshals.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: How about a new unlock display soap on a slot?
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: So, the slat irregular in the sense of being defected
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: or damaged, but often come from overstocked past seasons or
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: excessive inventory from major brands.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there's the regular stuff too.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Literally, you remember the like.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: The Adidas shorts that everybody used to wear.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the three stripes stripes, Yeah, yeah, kind of like.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was probably like maybe twelve ish and my
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: mother got me.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: A few pairs. Sometimes they were really shiny.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know, and they were they were good shorts.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: But like one of the pockets was like stitch clothes.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: Couldn't you couldn't get in you know, No, no it
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: was it was stitch clothes. It wasn't trying.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: You couldn't do it. That's why it was in. Marshall
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: locked up the pocket.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: That's why that like pair of like you know, forty
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: dollars shorts was on sale for like five bucks because
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: the pocket didn't there.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: But you can't get into it.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: But I I it looks good. Yeah, it's just like
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: all the time, like damn it, that's my move for
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: all I know. There's like there's a sales guy upstairs
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: who's about to do a deal with Marshall's Boston company.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: I've gotten many things at Marshall's.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: Okay, good for kids, kids stuff.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: I mean that's I don't think we've ever gotten anything.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: But like I said, if you need quantity, because you
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: need to change it up. You go there, Go ahead,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: put them bag for your buck. Yeah, I just don't
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: buy a lot of clothes.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: Even says it with such disdain. Go there if you want.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: I'm giving you permission.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: The email and nails you like the one like the
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: one from back, the one about no one makes being
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: rich sod.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: Rich that he missed out on like the thread had
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 4: just hanging his hand off the off the throne to
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 4: let the dog clean off.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: His fingers for it. That's just being lazy. That's just
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: being lazy. Uh. Tom in England the perfect We're talking
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: about donuts the other day. So the perfect donut is
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: a jam filled donut, not shelley with a dusting of sugar,
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: followed by a Krispy Kreme glazed ring donut. What are
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: your thoughts on Tim Horton's We have this side of
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: the pond and I rate them over Duncan.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: Duncan is great a sponsor.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, Uh.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: Doesn't match up donut.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: Right? I don't know.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 7: One Duncan in Massachusetts where they still make them there,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 7: but most.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Of the others then donuts are fine for the donuts,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: but you go to these places they have these designer
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: donuts it's like.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: The next Yeah, like.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: What's the place that every is that the place bringing
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: and is like thanks, they just sit there because nobody
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: wanted them. Yeah, you just told me.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: Well, I will say. We get dunk in every week
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: for the pre and post game show and those things
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: are gone, like they everyone.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: Six of them before.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 4: That's why I always get one.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: I get one sometimes too.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: It's got a little treat before the two. Get you excited.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: Ah, let's see who's his first time emailer? It is Dylan. Oh,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: you're on the list with to talk about a VP
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: and Marcus Jones. Early I had an idea. It might
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: not be realistic, but I wanted your opinion on it.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: The running game has been struggling for a while. Remandre
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: hasn't had the same juice we saw earlier in the season.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: It seems like Drake May accounts for seventy percent of
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: the rushing yards every week. Could putting Marcus Jones in
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: the backfield and giving him some snaps as a running
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: back workout. Like Paul said, he's absolutely electric with the
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: ball in his hand and he could be a threat
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: to break one off for a touchdown at any point.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Do you think his vision and ability on punt returns
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: could translate to a role as running back, getting a
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: few snaps here and there. It's a change of pace,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think. So it's a lot different, you know,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: running from that dead start.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: That's what we've seen, Yeah, that dead stop, getting them
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 4: in space, you know, getting them with speed and space.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: And around last week is yeah, you have to do
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: it that way.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but I mean I get what he's getting
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: at a little bit with a punk return, but I
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: also think on a punt return, you have a lot
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: more time to kind of find an angle. And it's
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: not like I mean, especially with this offensive line, there
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: might be a guy on top of him, like you
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: don't like a punt return, but he might wave fair catch.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: And if you're spreading, you know, spread the formation out
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: and you're trying to, you know, see if you can
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: get the defense in a light front, and all of
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: a sudden you get a seam or a crease or whatever. Yeah,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, he could make some big plays doing that,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: but I there's a traditional running back first and ten
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: I don't I don't like his chances, right, yeah, twenty
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: two leads. I don't like his chances of holding.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Up tim our friend at Duncan writes in he says,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: do you think that the Patriots may utilize Brendan's schooler
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: the way they did in the Chicago game as some
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: sort of spy for the quarterback?
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think you need it on too it.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 4: I mean maybe something to considered with Kyler Murray in
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: a couple of weeks though.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: Sure, sure, yep, sure, Uh let's go to the TP.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: We haven't been there yet. I can't read. Uh, Dylan
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: in South Carolina? What's up? Dylan?
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 18: Hey, first time caller. Just to clear up some things
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 18: you guys were talking about yesterday, y'all are saying, like
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 18: Drake had said pause here in the interview. Being from
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 18: the Carolinas and a young kid like myself had a
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 18: brag or anything, but uh, we would say pause if
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 18: we said something out of pocket, for example, like Drake
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 18: made it feeling up on the guys or whatever. He
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 18: ended up staying like feeling good in the coverage. He
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 18: said pause, and you know, indicate like it might have
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 18: been out of pocket if you heard it. I had contact.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's why he was saying that.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 18: The last thing I want to bring up is we
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 18: always talk about the worst draft here recently. What would
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 18: be the best draft pick other than Drake May obviously
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 18: that you guys would bring up and I'll take it
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 18: off there of.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: All time, Dylan the way the best, the best draft
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: pick recently. Yeah, he's probably Gonzales. Yeah yeah, yeah, like
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 3: Drake May was the third overall pick, that was the
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: pick Gonzales. They had all kinds of options, they traded down,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: they still got Paul.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: What was the best draft the Patriots ever had as
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: a franchise individual years at the Hannah Draft, that.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: Would be one of them. Seventy three I think it was. Yeah,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: seventy six was great. I think it was like one
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: in like eighty five, I think something like that.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: I mean they drafted Marcus Haynes and then Marcus Haynes,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: Mike Haynes. I'm thinking of Marcus Jones. Mike Haynes. I
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: just know you speak, I speak, Frank, I know I
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: knew exactly what he meant. That's why I laughed. That
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: was a good.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: They had some good I mean, Chuck Fairbanks was a
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: really good drafter.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and even you know when Parcels, they had
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: some good.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: Drafts ninety five draft was was exceptional high lawd Ted Johnson,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: Curtis Martin.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not a bad one. Two three Nope.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: Chat g BT says the two thousand is the best
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: draft year of all.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: Time for the Patriots.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, why who they draft in two thousand?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 17: Right?
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: You're playing out here here with Rabel?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: None of these were draft picks except for Break.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: Was not a draft. I'm straight just reading, not.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: Knowing at you GPTs blind spot right, facts, facts, facts.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: Rabel wasn't a draft pick anything. Wasn't on a team
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: in two thousand. So that's not good. That's not good
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: for g BT.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: I'd be careful with that.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: Accurate, but it isn't. Kendalls in North Carolina? What's up, Kendall?
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 8: Hey?
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: Are you good?
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 19: I wanted to ask real quick, what do I think
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 19: that Patriots can be like to be competing for the division,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 19: to be compete for the division next year or at
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 19: least a second. If you look at the division, the
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 19: Dolphins got situations with Tour long term help, and then
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 19: the Jet they're like they're going to rebuild it this year,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 19: and then we know Buffalo is but that we can
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 19: at least be number two in the Vision next year.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 19: This question foot Paul, but any of y'all can answer,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 19: appreciate it, Okay.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: All right, thanks Kenvill.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think I would say Miami would
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: be discernibly better than the Patriots next year, But if
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: TUA is out of the equation.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: Then that would change things for sure.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 3: And I also think there's a difference between competing for
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: the division and finishing second in the division. Right now,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: whoever finish the second behind Buffalo this year is probably
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 3: going to be like four or five games behind, right, and.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: Then go after loose to Buffalo in the playoffs.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: Well, so what you're saying second is up for grabs
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: Miami's four and six, right, so there are four games
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: by hind in Buffalo. We're not even at Thanksgiving.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 4: It's a lot to make up.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: So you can say Miami is the second best team
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: in the division, that's fact, right, But you can't say
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: they're a contender for the division right because they're not.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: Yep uh Travis in West Virginia. One of my pet
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: peeves is when people add an extra unnecessary syllable when
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: saying Vina. Terry Matt and Mike Knock it.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: Off because you guys say Tierry, I pronounced the eye
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: vin Terry than a Terry.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 6: Okay, I said it that way because that's how I
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 6: heard Mike saying, no.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: Shoot. Also, I'm personally indifferent about you can't cover this
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: team if you don't know how to pronounce there's an
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: eye in there.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: You don't know how to pronounce the names you should.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: There's an Ou and Blount.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 6: You said it so many times making the two thousand
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 6: and one documentary.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: Oh damn it, I ruined the whole thing.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Also, I'm personally indifferent about the Thursday pick segment, but
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: I actually think it's an insult. If people say that
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: it's their favorite part of the show, Wow, they're insulted.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: I have to say, I take the pics a little
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: bit more seriously now that they we have like a
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: graphic about the standings.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 8: I tried to take it seriously. Today it was blocked
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 8: from DraftKings. I tried to do.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 5: Prep and we had to get Fred.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: I had to issue a ticket to help desk same.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because I.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: Wasn't allowed and I had to I had to approve it.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. Fred came out Big boss Man said he
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: was like what huh.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: He actually had to approve it.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 7: We're on the gambling approved list, all of us.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well at least the people. I mean Evan and
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: Alex and me and.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 8: You anyone who submitted a help ticket.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we're not allowed to gamble. We had
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: to take a class to say that we understand that
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: we're not allowed to gamble, and now we have to
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: be treated like children. No, no, no, you can't even
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: look at a spread, like.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: What are we doing blocking more sites? Like what you know?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: Like what do you really need for your job? Like
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: you know you can get to do that.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 8: A lot of companies do that, like Gmail will be
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 8: blocked and random stuff. I don't know.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: It's crazy being freds Now. You guys had some lawn
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: maintenance discussion yesterday which got me wondering if Fred has
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: been using his nut grab or it's actually nut Wizard.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: I can't remember the actual name. That's what it is.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: It is it holding up. I've never had it's amazing.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: After that one season where acorns were just raining down,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: ever since then, I've never had a year where not
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: these horns were.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: This year was an acorn year. We got a ton
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: of acorns because I don't have like different, yeah, but
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: I know it's like a thing every couple of years
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: that there's just a ton of acorns, so I never
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: had to you we had them this year.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: But it is holding up Evan's here.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 17: Evan has returned from practice and has returned prompt.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 6: Has returned from practice.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: Who was there?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: All right, Evan? What's going on?
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: Now?
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 5: They're in the bubble, right in the bubble today? There
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: it was it wasn't too hot in there now it wasn't.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 5: It was normal bubble temperature. But you know, a lot
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: of grousing about in out and out. And I'll get
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: to that in a second. But the good news is
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: is that, yeah, is that Christian Barmore? Now I can't
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: even get my train of thought. Christian Barmore was back
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: at practice today, So it sounds like he's like on
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: like a Thursday schedule where Thursday is the day. We'll
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 5: see if he's out there tomorrow. But that's what it
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: was last week. So Barmore back, Still no dtrich whise,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 5: so he misses his fifth straight practice now going back
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 5: to last week after missing last week's game with that
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 5: foot injury. So those are really the two attendance notes today,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 5: everybody else was present and accounted for. So Barmore back
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: and why is not.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: Okay? So is this the first time they practiced in
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: the bubble? What we've had access this season?
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: Correct?
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that's nothing. What was the mood like? Was
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: it different for you in there?
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: It was different. It was bumping in there because you know,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: you turned music on and and it's indoors obviously, so
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: it's allowed. And uh, you know, guys were guys were
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 5: into it. There's a lot of.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Hoot more selective in terms of what media is allowed
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 5: Nope, no, nope, same contingent. But they have these like
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 5: awnings up like because you know the glass doors that
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 5: open up into it from the parking lot, so they
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 5: have these like awnings up now, like kind of like
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: when we're on the road, when you know, in the
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 5: team hotel, to like cover the field so that you
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: can't just stand in the parking lot and look into
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 5: the into the practice. So that that that was an
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: interesting new edition.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: And we did have an emailer that asks that you
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: have a conversation with Alex Barth about because he doesn't
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: understand the meaning of rapid fire.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: Oh he does not. We're terrible at that as a duo,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 5: Like you know us, like we could talk football all
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 5: day long. So asking us to go rapid fire is
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 5: like asking us to do something impossible.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: You know. It's is that a segment in the show
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: that you do?
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: Know it?
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 5: Just last week we had a bunch of and he's
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: he's standing over there right now.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: We like making fun of people right when they're Yeah.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 5: Last week we had a bunch of emails that had
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 5: come in and I had neglected them. So I was like,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 5: last ten minutes, let's just rapid fire through one. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: and we were going the first one. He's going on
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: and on, Alex, rapid fire like I don't have five
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: minute takes here, you know, but that's what we do
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: to share his gift.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, uh Dan writes in firstly, some email are on
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: host crime, Alex. Stop picking on Paul in the newsletter.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: You might hide it well, but Paul is a very
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: sensitive soul. You might think that he drinks as a hobby,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: but it's an escape. It's to escape days that's dark, Alex.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: If you need to fill in content, you can always
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: print Eric's book about Africa and serial excerpts. That would
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: be funny, don't It'll be a low effort piece as
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: there will be nothing to print. If you're lucky, Eric
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: might give you a watermark photo to fill in the space.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: So that's how those are inside.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: Jokes, inside jokes.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: John Jones usually played on Hill in the past. Is
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: that still the case or is Marcus Jones a better
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: match for Hill now with his speed? I think I
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: think he'll. I think what you do with Jones is
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: you double them up with somebody.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: So Dave had Gonzo actually played Tyreek Hill the last
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 5: couple of times. In Week five, he shadowed Tyreek on
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: twenty one of his twenty nine routes in that game,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 5: and then also Gonzalez his rookie year. Now, Marcus Jones
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: got hurt early in that game his rookie season, so
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: I don't know if that had an effect, but Gonzalez
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: shadowed Tyreek Hill in that game as well, So I think,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: you know, let's not forget that Gonzales ran a four
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: to three nine. He can he can fly too, So yeah,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: he's been on Hill for the most part the last
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 5: couple of times he's been healthy.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: Okay, it might be some Jones of safety.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: That's kind of what I could be figure as well.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot to ask were they in pads today indoors?
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: No pads, no pads, No, no pads at all.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah they had they always have the uppers.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: Well, I want to hear more about the grousing though,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: about the ins and the outs.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 8: Well, yeah, Michael Scott snipsnaps.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was in out and out, you know, pause
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: and back in the back in the in the rain.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: They're putting you back out in the rain.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 5: Uh. That was the That was the grousing was that
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: we were standing underneath the overhead that this is such
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: a first problem. That's why I'm lou there and uh,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: and we're out in the kind of the rain but
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: not getting rained on. And then we thought we were
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: going to get kicked out and back outside, but they
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 5: let us stand behind the awning you know, backs to
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: the field though right now.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Just really surprised they don't like to put hoods over
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: turn around.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's like me, of all people, I'm not
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 5: going to break anything like.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: A blanket party. The don't even look at him, don't
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: Did you get an updated list of who's going on?
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: The trip this week.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: A couple of people are going on the trip this
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: week that don't normally don't always go, So it's going
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 5: to be a little bit of a bigger from the media.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, nice nice weather.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, a little bit bigger. But I was reminded
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 5: that it's usually cold in that press box in Miami.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: Well, no, it was what happens. It's the worst press
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: First of all, it's the worst press box ever, even
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: with the improvements to the stadium. But when it is
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: warm out, they've got the events that literally drip condensation
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: right on you while you're sitting there.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 5: It's like it's raining. Yeah, it's a tough setup. But
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: noted about the cold chili.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 4: Some people are bring a ring coader and it bring
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 4: that on, Brelly, you brought its child.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: It's going to be in the fifties.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I like that.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you guys are going to do.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: I'm not going to have to bring all right.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: It's that time of the week.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: The best part of the show the shop. It's really
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: free because they're at home.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: Playing a game long boat. The boys from the Man
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: We gotta hurry Love.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 4: We got a hurry spread of again, we got a
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: hurry business song tune?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: She makes a real one. It's that time? Okay? Is
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: that AI generated? Okay?
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: It is? It sounded like a ross between mid eighties sitcoms.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just some like prompted if we like that
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: or should we give it another try?
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: I have other versions if you want.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, not for today.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 5: But the irony is that that takes up a lot
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 5: of time when we're trying to hurry.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: What's that The prop I put in for that was
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: disco and jingle?
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 11: Okay?
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: It was there a rights issue with the that thing? No, no,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 4: we're just getting people just as a yeah, all right, fine.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: All right, Paul. What happened last week?
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: So it was a good week for most not me, No.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: Not really you either, Fred, But I didn't say anything.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: No, no, I just was saying we were, you know,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: a little lagging behind. Mike and Evan eleven and three, nice,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: Alex ten and four, and you and I were nine
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: and five. So you know, it's like we're holding down
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: the curve, right, you know, right, you know, bringing down
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: the whole class with the spread. Mike eleven and three,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: really good week with the spread, Alex and Evan really
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: good week with the spread ten and four, Paul seven
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: and seven mediocre as usual, Fred, very atypical of Fred.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, six and eight, My worst week yet this year.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: You've fallen off.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: The top spot. Oh boy, So overall, Evan takes the
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: lead from me, breaks the tie one oh nine and
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: fifty seven. I remained in second place at one O
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: seven and fifty nine, Alex one O six and sixty
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: Fred one O five and sixty one, and Mike one
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 3: O three and sixty three. Don't you Fred, I don't know, Oh,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: handsome one, it's happened with the spread. There's a new
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: sheriff in time, boy, and he's wicked handsome. Mike is
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 3: ninety three seventy and three, Wow, followed by Fred at
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: ninety two seventy one and three, Evan ninety seventy three
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: and three, Paul eighty eight seventy five and three, and
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: Alex eighty six seventy seven and three. Still picking every
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: game with the spread. The worst record that this show
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: has is eighty six and seventy seven. Is something that's
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: that's pretty good. That's what you don't need to man's plain,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: what are we doing?
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 4: Well? Like?
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 8: That's pretty good?
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: I think you don't get bonus points for being a woman.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 8: No, I'm saying, like I I don't want a man's
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 8: playing basketball.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: One of my all time favorite drops. I feel like
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: man's splaying.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: I was a man splainning hockey to do earlier. So
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 5: that's fine, power.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: Play you have an extra man?
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 5: How does that happen?
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: Paul?
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: That first, the spread the last?
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 5: Overall?
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: Do you have like a like a theory of like
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: Like, don't I think we need to check my dumblock? Yeah?
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 4: Probably there, Thanks for but.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have to especially first on the amount of
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have to knock into the We're gonna have
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: to do something about that point spread.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 4: Lead.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: I gotta get my lead back, all right. Start with
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: tonight on Prime Video eight fifteen. The eight and two
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: Steelers are at the two and eight Browns, another one
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: of Paul's division matchups.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Pittsburgh by three and a half.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah. I think there's some sharp snow something here.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: Something's up, folks, Something is up.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 4: I think there's some inclement weather as well tonight.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 5: It's that could be a little bit of our sources
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 4: We have sources directly connected to the head coach in
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh who informed us that there's some snow tonight. It
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 4: could be yet I don't know, man, I I guess.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: I guess, no pronounce, that's what this person said.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: But I'm gonna I'm gonna go. I look, I don't
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: I haven't really been a believer in Pittsburgh, but I'm
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 4: gonna go for it tonight. I'll take Pittsburgh lay the points.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll take Pittsburgh road favorite. I think they're starting
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 8: to put a little bit of stuff together. I think
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 8: they're tough. There's a weather situation, thank you.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm taking Pittsburgh both ways. That the Browns have
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: not been competitive for a couple of weeks now, and
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: I keep on thinking that the Steelers are gonna slip
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: up here, and they just don't. So I'm taking Pittsburgh.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 3: I'm taking Pittsburgh both ways too. My only concern would
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: be coming off a huge win short week on the road.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 3: But this is more of an anti Cleveland pick. I'll
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: take Pittsburgh both Yeah.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: This is the kind of team, the kind of game
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: where Tomlin says, you.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: Know, we're tough, and yeah, according to sources exactly what
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: he's saying, will blanket at I don't know she was
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: going between a blanket and the T shirt. I'm like,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 4: get it straight, he says.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: And now everybody right Sunday CBS one o'clock, the nine
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: and one Chiefs are at the three and seven Panthers.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 3: Kansas City by eleven on the road.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 4: Eleven.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: Oh boy.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 4: Uh the last week I went against Kansas City right
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: time to finally yeah, to go against them, but I'm
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 4: back on the chefs. Just a question to lay in
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 4: that ten and a half. I'm gonna go for it.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 4: Let's lay him.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna lay it to bounce back for the Chiefs.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 8: Good placement of opponent for them.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 4: Taekwon thornon two on the team, so look practice well.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 5: But I don't know if you know he landed in
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 5: Kansas City and saw that.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: I was worried.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: I didn't know if his plane would make it.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: But he's there. Chiefs both ways.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: Uh so definitely Kansas City great, as Alex said, great
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 3: bounce back opponent after the loss. I'm gonna take Carolina
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: with the points because Kansas City just hasn't covered these
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: spreads all year, and I'm gonna go with the balance
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: of the season and say that Carolina finds a way
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: to have a backdoor cover.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: I was tempted to take the points, but my reasoning
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: for not doing that is Chiefs lost last week, their
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: first loss. Now kind of like pressure is off, so
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: it only it's almost like they're starting a new season
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: here for them, So I think that they actually do
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: cover and have a uncharacteristically twenty twenty four good offensive game, and.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: That defense could really make life difficult on Bryce Young.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: One o'clock on Fox, The eight and two Vikings are
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: at the four and six Bears Minnesota by three and
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: a half.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 4: O Man, I hate picking Minnesota every week. It's just
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: I can never get a good feel for them, and
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: it's hard to pick Chicago after seeing what they did
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: two weeks ago and then they bounce back. But I'm
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: gonna take Minnesota. I just think they're overall better team
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: and they've got the more well developed talent at this point.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 7: On later points, I'm gonna take the Vikings both ways,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 7: and I don't have an elaboration.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: Two games in already out of gas, I'm I'm not
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 3: sure I'm gonna take the Vikings for sure, but I'm
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: gonna take the Bears to the cover.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 5: You know, these divisional games sometimes they get close and
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: they get weird. I'm gonna say it's a field goal
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: game and.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take it a step further and take the
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: Bears to pull an upset.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 5: And he's trying to make up ground.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: It's more about sam Donold. I think he's not been
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: the same the last, you know, consistently, the last couple
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: of weeks. And I think Chicago at home, I think
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: they look like they put together a better performance last week,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: and I think they'll do it again.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Vikings here. I think Brian
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: Flores himself has a sack in this game. One o'clock
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: on CBS, the two and eight Titans are at the
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: seven and four Texans. Uh, Houston by eight?
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: Oh Joe, Yeah, they were so he's just pretty fired up, right, Fred?
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 7: Was that was you?
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 4: Were you the one that was bothering there? They were too,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 4: They were too excited.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the sideline, very excited on the sideline.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: Fred wasn't having that fun. Police was out.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: I think they keep rolling, especially at home. I'll I'll
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: take Houston.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 8: I'll lay the points Betweet.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take Houston both ways. I just think
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 5: the Titans kind of stank.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: Oh man, Yeah, I don't think Houston's played all that
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 3: well offensively. They have to try to get that offense
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: on track. I know they scored thirty four points last week,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: but that wasn't a thirty four point outing. They had
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 3: some turnovers. I'll take Houston both ways.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: I am too Houston both ways. Uh Fox one o'clock,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: the nine and one Lions are at the five and
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: six Colts, So this is Dutwah by seven and a half.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 4: Listening to Evan Lazarre tell me this morning, Anthony Richardson
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 4: not quite as bad as you might have thought last week,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 4: but I don't care.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: He played really well, but.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm still gonna stick with Detroit. I just
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 4: think they are in f you mode and I will
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 4: lay the seven and a half points.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, me too.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I was impressed by what I saw from Richardson
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: last week. A lot of design quarterback run stuff that
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 5: try to get him into the game a little bit,
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 5: and I thought he made some good throws. But I
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 5: just think the Lions are a wagon. So I'm gonna
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: take the Lions in this game both ways. But I
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 5: was impressed for next week with the Patriots that Anthony
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 5: Richardson I thought looked a lot better.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: And this is another one of those examples. There's evidently
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: a thing. The team that plays Detroit the following week
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: gets eviscerated. Oh yeah, except for when Tennessee did it.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 3: Who Tennessee played the.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: Week after they played Detroit?
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 4: I don't remember Patriots.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: Oh so this is setting up the Colts coming to
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: town next week. I'm going to take Detroit both ways, folks.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: This is your point spread lock of the week. Colts
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: cover in this game, even though the Blonds win.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: I thought about taking the hook.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: You should have threw the ball.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: Well. One o'clock on CBS, the four and six Buccaneers
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: are at the two and eight Giants Bucks by six.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say my sheets three and a half.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 4: Only that was way too low. Uh yeah. Things falling apart,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 4: by the way for the Yeah, see them talking to
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 4: Drew Locke about it. He seems as befuddled. I was interesting, Paul,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 4: real quick aside. You talk a lot about the New
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: York media, and I watched an interview with Drew Locke,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 4: and they were right on him of like, I mean,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 4: when you signed here, you thought you were the backup,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: and you know you could see the conflict in him
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 4: of how to answer these questions and yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: I mean I am kind of thinking that, you know,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 4: they they got him good.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: Here we would have been asking the backup quarterback about
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 3: the backside.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go with bigger bakes
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: and I will uh yeah, I'm gonna lay those six points.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Bucks. Giants are just weird
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 8: to me.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: A lot of decent size spreads this week.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Bucks. I'm gonna take them
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 5: both ways, but I'm tempted to take the Giants to cover.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 5: But I the decision to bench Daniel Jones and go
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 5: to Tommy DeVito has not gone over well. It doesn't
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 5: feel like in New York, and I'm worried that for
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 5: a dable that that might have lost in the locker
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: room a little bit. So that's why I'm not gonna take.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: I absolutely agree, and I don't have any problem with
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: benching Jones mean either for business reasons, and I know
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: that's why they did it so he doesn't get hurt
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: and they don't. They're not on the hook for that guarantee,
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: But why not Drew Locke? Like that doesn't make any
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: sense to me. It's almost like it's a twin bill.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: It's we're gonna do what's not in the best interest
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: of winning games by taking the quarterback out for financial reasons,
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: but we're also not going to put the guy in
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: who gives us the better chance to win because we
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: want to lose. Yeah, it's like both Yeah, I got
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 3: Tampa both ways because of what Evan says. I think
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: the Giants' locker.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: Room is me too, buckering the same Buccaneers both ways.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: One o'clock on Fox, the three and seven Cowboys are
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: at the seven and four Commanders. Cowboys finally have a
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: non prime game.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: Uh, they'll be back. Unfortunately, Washington by ten and a half.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 4: Ten and a half, that seems like a lot. I'm
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: gonna take Washington to win at home. That's just a
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 4: lot of points for a divisional game, even if Dallas
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: is stinking. So I'm gonna take the points for Dallas.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: Please.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 8: I'm just gonna rip it Commanders both ways.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: It just rip it.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 5: I Normally would side would do such a big spread
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 5: in a divisional game, But the Cowboys just haven't been
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 5: competitive in their games. So I'm going to take the
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 5: Commanders both ways. I just think the Cowboys stink.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: I also think Washington, you know, been off ten days.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: They need to get back on track. Lost two in
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: a row. Maybe Jade and dais a little healthier. I'll
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: take Washington both ways.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: I will take the points Cowboys cover. All right, we
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: skip over the Patriots and we moved to four oh
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: five on CBS. The six and five Broncos are a
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: rare road game. At the two and eight Raiders, it's
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: not far from home, though.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: Denver By he always adds a wrinkle to it that
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: makes me laugh. Denver By six.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked a little bit about Bonix. You know,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: he's playing pretty well. I think you can see why
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: Sean Payton liked him and how he's fitting into things
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: for them there. So I'm gonna take Denver. Uh, drop
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 4: Vegas another one. I'll lay the six points from Denver.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 7: Take Denver, lay the points. The reason is I don't
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 7: like the Raiders. One of my irrational gripes, like Fred has.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 4: Does not have to be irrational?
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: What's the reasoning? Why don't you like the Raiders?
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 7: A lot of reasons I think they should have, just
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 7: like I don't know. I don't like just plopping all
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 7: these teams in Vegas and just it's not their fault,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 7: I know, but but there's a lot of reasons too.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's kind of their fault.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: They wanted to go there, But I don't know. But
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: is that really the reason? Just ye, no, I don't.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 8: I just don't respect the readers. I don't respect them, Okay,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 8: I don't know why?
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: Fair enough?
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 4: It seems like a deep dive.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: Imagine Fred asking someone why, How ironic is that?
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 8: That's why I called it?
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you might need an essay in the newsletter.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 3: You hate for reasons sometimes, but you have a lot
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 3: of irrational hate.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: Well you do. I have the reason, but maybe it's irrational,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: you know, like there's always a reason, you know what
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's never like oh, just because there's sometimes
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: a reason. You may not think the reason is worthy
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: of the hate, but that's your your opinion.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 5: I'm not buying the Bonnick stuff. It feels very mac
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 5: Jones Rookie year to me, like really good head coach
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 5: that's managing him through these games. But I don't like
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 5: the Raiders either, So I'm going to take Denver in
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 5: this game, and I'll take the Raiders to cover. Though
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 5: I thought Minshew was was a little little frisky last
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 5: week against Miami. I didn't think he played poorly.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: I think it'll be a little different against the Broncos
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: defense for your frisky quarterback. I think this is a
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: huge game for the Broncos, a game on the road
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: that they quote unquote should win. Let's see where they are.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: I'll take Denver both ways.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: I'll take Denver, but not to cover the Raiders cover
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: in this AFC.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: How about bron Bowers And I do.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 3: Have to say, you know, I was critical of other
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: people and not coming back. I think bo Nicks I
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: thought he coming out. I thought he's stunk. I thought
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 3: he was a second round pick at best. He's played
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: really well, and you know.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: Sean Payton for that a lot of it.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: But I give the coaches a lot of credit for
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: how they handle these young guys because nobody comes into
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 3: the league ready to do it all by themselves, so
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 3: they need good structure. And I think Sean Payton's done
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 3: a good job with them.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Four on Fox, the five and five forty nine
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: Ers are at the seven to three Packers Green Bay
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: by one and a half.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 4: Oh no, this is a good game. This feels yeah,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 4: I mean this is this is the closest spare we had,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 4: But you know this, this feels like a good one.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 4: Little little old school little history there of course.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 4: I think it's a coin flip a little with these
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 4: two teams. But San Francisco should be peaking. Shoot, I'm
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 4: gonna take San Francisco on the road. I'm gonna go
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 4: for it. I'll take them with the upset, yep, upset.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: My guy, Kyle's not doing so hot right now. This
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 5: is not the season that they invented, envisioned in San Francisco.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 5: I didn't think b Rock Party played very well last
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: week either, So I'm gonna take the Packers in this
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 5: game at home to win. I something's off with the
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 5: forty nine Ers. I can't really put my finger on it,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 5: but it seems like all their guys have come back,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: but maybe a little bit too late, you know, and
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: the season sort of off the rails already.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to do the same. I agree that
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: Deebo doesn't look good. I know they don't have a
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: You know what happened is you were complimentary of pretty
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 3: much I did that.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take I'll take the pack Horse Engineer.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take the forty nine ers to win
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: the game. I just I think every once in a
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: while this year, they're gonna have a good game just
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: because of their talent. So this is one of those
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: four to twenty five Fox. The six and four Cardinals
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: are at the five and five Seahawks.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: Seattle by one.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 5: That's a tough one.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, this is another good one NFC West matchup. I
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 4: love Seattle at home, but Arizona's playing well. I think
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 4: they they've got a lot of respect. Trae McBride another
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 4: tight end who's coming on and playing well. Shoot, I'm
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 4: gonna go Arizona. I'll do the same thing I did
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 4: last time with San Francisco. I'll take the upset.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 8: This is one too that I'm conflicted.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 7: My got saying Cardinals, my brain is saying Seahawks, and
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 7: I feel like it's bad vibes to pick two upsets
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 7: in a row. So I will go with the what's
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 7: your heart saying my heart could not care less.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: The heart wants, the heart wants.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 3: Seattle at home, Seattle at home.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 4: This is uh.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: I love watching both of these offenses.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know which one owns the other on this
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 5: Either, but I both these offenses I think are really
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: well designed and fun to watch. And I'm excited to
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 5: watch this game afterwards. But I'm gonna go Seahawks at home.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 5: I just think that they they're ryan high after that
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 5: win last week over San Francisco's. I'll take the Seahawks,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 5: but I think both these coordinators are doing really good job.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take Arizona. I think they're They've played
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 3: better than Seattle over the course of the season. I
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: think they'll continue to do that. And I think that
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 3: the way they play is going to be travels.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: They're a physical team. They like to run the ball
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: with Connor and Maury's played really well.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah he has. It's a tough one. This really is spread. Yeah,
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Cardinals. Have been with them all year,
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: so I'll stick with them. Sunday Night A twenty on
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: nb Universo, Telexitos and Peacock. The eight and two Eagles
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: are at the five and five Rams. Rams coming off
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 2: huge win.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, back to back huge primetime games at Sofar this weekend.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 3: Two decent matchups, not great matches, but decent. The Eagles
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 3: by two and a half six.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 5: In a row over Philly streaking what's six of the six?
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know that's and I always have trouble
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: with this, Like you see the Rams come in and
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: their offense looks really good against Patriots team, and it's like,
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 4: how are these guys not better than what their record
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 4: indicates they are.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 3: And most of those guys haven't played most of the year.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: That's correct, right, No, yeah, I know, but that's what
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 4: you know. So I think I'm gonna go with the
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 4: Rams here. Lots I like about Philly, but I still
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 4: just think there's some there's some things not quite totally
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 4: right there. I'm gonna go with the Rams as home dogs.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna take Philly both ways.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 5: I like the Rams here too. I think the thing
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 5: is off about the Eagles to me is their coaching.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 5: I still don't trust their coaching on offense, especially, and
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 5: I think this is another one of those games prime
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 5: time McVeigh Stafford. I think they show their their metal
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 5: in this game.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Eagles are a better team. But
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 3: I'm going to root for my boy, Matthew Stafford. So
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna take the law and I'm going to
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: just go with I'm gonna use Alex's advice and go
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: with my heart to your heart.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 8: Oh, speaking of your love of Stafford. That reminded me.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 8: I was on Claire's podcast today. I just wanted to shout,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 8: shout out clip.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 4: Anymore.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 5: You remember she used to she's she's busy promoting her
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 5: own she's she's famous.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 4: Now we pay her to call in now because she's.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: You know, uh, just another one. I I have no idea.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go with the Eagles. I've been picking
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: against them a lot this year and I've been wrong,
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: so I'll give them this week. They'll probably prove me
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: wrong again. But take the Eagles over the Rams, all right?
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: Monday night, eight fifteen on ESPN, ABC, ESPN two, and
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: ESPN Deportes. The seven and four Ravens are at the
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: seven and three Chargers.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: The Brothers correct Harball Bowl and Baltimore by two and
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 3: a half.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 4: Also, it's a tough one. I like Baltimore just last
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: week it was, like I said, it was so them
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 4: like I you know, you get on board, you feel
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 4: like they're humming and it's gonna all go great, and
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 4: then all of a sudden they lose to a team
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 4: that you might not think that they should have lost to.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: No disrespect to the Steelers.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: Sounded like a lot of disrespect.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 4: Actually maybe it was. That's just my open the.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 3: Team ahead of the other one, wasn't.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 5: I just feel like the rasource isn't going to give
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 5: us information anymore, alienating the sources.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 4: You know what, I'm gonna go with the lack at home.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 4: I think they play a similar kind of tough brand
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 4: of football the Baltimore and I think got a little
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: Ravens skid here.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 8: I'm going to predict a Ravens bounce back on the road.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 8: Take them both ways.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 7: Happy for the Harbaugh family to all get together before Thanksgiving.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 7: It's really nice of the week.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 5: It's a great point out.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 4: Do you think you'll fly back or actually it was
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 4: like the gyms will still living in like a looking.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 3: Like an ran the river blows.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 5: Was it a bungalow balow?
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Price, L l A.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 8: Bungalows are nice, right, thank you.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 5: I'm going to take the Ravens in this game. I
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 5: like what I've seen from the Chargers. I'm just not
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 5: sure if they're quite there. And Baltimore needs to get
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: back on track after last week. So I will say though,
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 5: when Justin Herbert was running down the field on a
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 5: scramble the other day, I did a double take and
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 5: thought it was Drake mank and it was fantastic all
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 5: right then and there, and it made me feel something. Yeah,
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: where did you feel it? No comment?
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: So I'm a little worried that I'm agreeing with some
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: of the points that Evan's making so much. I agree
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 3: everything you said about the Chargers. I'm really impressed with
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: the team, but I'm just not I don't know if
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: they're ready for a step up in weight class.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to take Baltimore. I think Jim has
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: John right where he wants him. I'm going to take
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: the Chargers. Did I get that right? Yeah?
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 2: Now we go back. It's a Sunday at one on CBS.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: The three and eight Patriots, who the team No one
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: wants to play, are at Miami playing the four and
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: six Dolphins Miami by seven and a half.
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 5: That's disrespectful.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 4: Sure is, it's a lot of points.
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: Sure is, it's like those movies.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 3: It sounded like the Beef.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: Dad's gonna creemy on account I didn't do my homework
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: past perfect. That was absolutely perfect.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 3: That could actually be a line of dialogue from that show.
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: Trust me. I grew up with lead a de beaber.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 5: Ah leave it's a beam the name of that show.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 4: My confidence is not high with this Patriots defense going
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 4: against this Miami offense. I heard him talk about speed
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 4: all week. That's it's gonna be a challenge for them.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: I think two was gonna If it does what Toua does,
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: he's gonna have a day. I've got Miami thirty three,
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 4: twenty four.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 7: Miami thirty four, back door cover by the Pats twenty seven.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 4: Oh look at that parts.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: I like where alex Is head is that I'm gonna
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 5: go a little bit lower scoring thirty one twenty three Miami,
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 5: But I like where your head's at in terms of
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 5: potentially a backdoor cover opportunity here for the Patriots. I
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 5: definitely worry about the Patriots defense against this Miami offense.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 5: I think the key to the game for the Patriots
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 5: is to try to shorten it. If they can make
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 5: the Dolphins march, you know, have to go ten, twelve, fifteen,
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 5: play drive to score, then maybe they can keep this
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 5: thing in the twenties. But if you just look at
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 5: the matchup on paper, I don't see how the Patriots
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 5: defense stops the Dolphins very much.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of see it similar to everybody else.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the hook. I will take Miami to win,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: but I'll take the that half point thirty to twenty three.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 3: I think Drake may gets sort of in a shootout
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: adjacent but can't quite keep up because he doesn't have
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: what Tua has to help him do it.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 5: I said thirty one, I'm at thirty one. I'm at
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 5: your score.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: Oh so you're taking the points?
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thirty one, twenty four back door cover.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: Okay. I'd love to say Tua in this game.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 3: Well that's a pause. You might hear that again on Sunday,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: but I can't.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 4: Ta Yeah, oh, Tua, I got you, all right, But.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: The Dolphins prevail.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 4: But what are you doing on Patriots?
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: For the first time this season, hit the thirty mark
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 2: thirty five thirty Dolphins win the game.
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 5: That would be a fun one yeap, all right, so.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: That's gonna be it. That's it, everything's in.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 3: We had had three minutes.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: Hayes in the barn. Any closing thoughts as people enter
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: into the weekend.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 8: I got one, Yeah, do some media on media crime?
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: Oh no, please for me, not you do?
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 5: Please do it?
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: I know the story, go ahead.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 7: I was doing a one on one yesterday interview outside
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 7: of the locker room. I was interrupted mid interview, mid
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 7: player thought for just like some small talk for I'm
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 7: not going to call it the reporter. I'm not gonna
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 7: call it outlet, but they were experienced, They've been.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 8: Doing this a while.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: And respectful.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 8: Does that like.
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 7: Trying to get an interview the players in the middle
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 7: of like a long, really thoughtful answer and this reporter
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 7: just like came in to shake his hand, and is.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: There any is there any? Is there any chance that
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: the reporter just heard the silence and moved in and
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: didn't know that you were in the middle.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 7: Because the player was I have the recording mid answer,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 7: and it totally threw him off the game.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 8: He had to be like, wait, what was the question? Toge,
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 8: I'm so sorry.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, did you say anything to this person?
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 8: So this is what I want you guys to advice on.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 8: Back in the day, your heads prevail.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 7: So I wanted to give it some time, and I
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 7: didn't want I didn't want to like.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 8: Look like a B word in front of the player
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 8: and be like, what the effort you doing? I'm trying
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 8: to conduct an interview?
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 5: The hell are you doing?
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 8: And would you do that if it were any like?
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know, so that would be my second part
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 3: of the question is would the reporter have interrupted.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 8: And I don't want to play or the team employee.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 3: Would they've interrupted Karen Gregian doing that?
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 3: No, they wouldn't have. They did it because there was
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 3: a Patriots employee. They knew that and they figured they could.
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 8: That's right, That's not right.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't And it wasn't like.
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 7: Small talk with the player. We're outside of the locker
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 7: room doing like recorder literally like that.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if it happens as much
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: as it used to. But back in the day, when
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: you'd have the big scrums, sometimes you'd have jostling in
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: the back with like a writer that would get in
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: front of a camera and the bump them in the
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: head hands.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 5: Ye, yeah, the killing.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you know, they'd be close to skirmish is breaking out.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 5: So there's that used to The new setup helps with
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 5: that now that we're doing video only in the REVS
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 5: locker room, Yeah, it definitely avoids that those types of.
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  Speaker 3: But what used to happen a lot is kind of
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 3: what Alex is talking about. There'd be scrums everywhere, and
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 3: then some people would say I don't really have any
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 3: interested in the scrum, and they'd go over and talk
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  Speaker 3: to somebody on their own, and all of a sudden,
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 3: the scrub would end, and you know, three or four
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 3: people from the scrum, Oh, he's I didn't invite you
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 3: to this, right, all right, I'm talking to this guy
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  Speaker 3: by myself. I didn't say you guys could come.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 2: In, right, you know, But that happens, and that used
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: to be etiquette in general. That's the etiquette.
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 3: Someone comes over and they'll give you the you know,
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 3: they'll they'll try to make eye contact with you to
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 3: see if it's okay.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 8: Before that isn't this guy's first rodeo.
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 5: This happens all the time.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 2: Should be said something should be said, and you said
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: it was a veteran. Oh yeah, veteran camera person or
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 2: writer writer? Oh even worse, I don't know who it is,
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: but I think I know who it is. Okay, all right,
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