Latest / The Driven Athlete / Enneagram Intro: The Lens of Perspective | Ep 24
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- 0:00Speaker 1: If you're a driven, active person who wants to reach and pursue a higher quality life with some ambition, then guess what this podcast is for you.
- 0:07Speaker 1: This is the Driven Athlete Podcast.
- 0:10Speaker 1: What's up, y'all?
- 0:12Speaker 1: It's your man, dr Kyle.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Driven Athlete Podcast.
- 0:16Speaker 1: This podcast episode is really interesting and something that I've gotten a little more into.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Don't live my life by it by any means, but it's a cool self-reflection tool and the Enneagram Personality Assessment Tool is the main thing we're talking about right now.
- 0:32Speaker 1: We've talked about it and mentioned it in other podcast episodes with Mary Tatum and then some other people, and there's a.
- 0:39Speaker 1: It's insane.
- 0:42Speaker 1: There's like big conventions and societies based around this personality assessment tool that didn't realize right.
- 0:49Speaker 1: There's books on it, there's podcasts on it.
- 0:51Speaker 1: By no means of my and what I claim myself to be an expert, but I just wanted to introduce some of the concepts behind it and then let y'all do your own research and figure out stuff for yourself, but I think it's really interesting and I wanted to bring it up.
- 1:04Speaker 1: So the Enneagram is a personality self-assessment, self-reflection tool for a little bit more self identity awareness and maybe how, and the definition they use is like the lens in which you perceive the world right, because everyone has their own perspectives and beliefs, which ultimately shape your world, right?
- 1:20Speaker 1: Your perspectives and beliefs that come from experiences in the past and how you're raised and how you were exposed to things.
- 1:26Speaker 1: That is, that shapes the lens in which you perceive the world, which is gonna be way different for everybody, right?
- 1:33Speaker 1: So, that being said, if you have a better insight on, maybe, what your lens and your perspective is and how you perceive the world, you can have better self-reflection and awareness and maybe how you're acting and maybe how you might react to certain situations and how you perceive stuff, and maybe better self-management, emotional management, which is the key for homeostasis, which is just a more sustained, manageable life, versus just like emotionally blowing up all the time or not getting things like why do they act like that?
- 1:59Speaker 1: Why are they doing this?
- 2:01Speaker 1: Right?
- 2:01Speaker 1: Why am I acting like that?
- 2:02Speaker 1: Why am I?
- 2:02Speaker 1: I wish I wouldn't react that way, right?
- 2:04Speaker 1: So this is just a self-reflection tool so you can maybe better insight somehow how you perceive the world and how other people that you're close with perceive the world, so you can read other people and have a good idea, maybe where they're at, if you know what their number is or where they're at and maybe enhance your relationship with them.
- 2:22Speaker 1: If you're to your spouse, your family, friends, coworkers, whatever, it's just really interesting because you have a better idea of like, oh, there are three or there are nine, or there are six, I know maybe a better idea of why they're reacting that way.
- 2:34Speaker 1: I'm gonna approach this conversation differently, with a little bit more purposefulness and mindfulness to manage this conversation and our relationship better, versus just being super confused and frustrated all the time.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Right, we're like why do they act like that?
- 2:46Speaker 1: Why do they do that?
- 2:47Speaker 1: Why don't they see things the way I see it?
- 2:48Speaker 1: Right, we're just oil and water, we just don't mix.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:52Speaker 1: You can purposefully be better at managing that stuff and social relationships better, but anyway.
- 2:59Speaker 1: So this is the Enneagram alright, it represents like a circle and there's nine personality types.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Alright, one through nine.
- 3:06Speaker 1: One is the reformer, and they're more of like a.
- 3:10Speaker 1: They want a good world view, justice, the right way to do things, perfectionism.
- 3:15Speaker 1: They're a perfectionist, so they can be kind of anxious or not great if people don't fit the same perfectionism.
- 3:21Speaker 1: They're sloppy if they're late to stop meetings, and that's the reformer.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Two is the helper, and they're usually really compassionate and they just want to serve other people and really help people.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Alright, usually sometimes, and what they describe is like at their own expense, right?
- 3:36Speaker 1: So imagine somebody that's like super compassionate and helpful and they're not going to really introspectively look at what their needs are, because they're always giving other people their needs, so at their own expense they might be overly serving other people.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Three is the achiever and they're usually very success and goal-driven and oriented and they usually are very concerned and want to be viewed as a high status in the society of their outward appearance.
- 4:01Speaker 1: They're always put together.
- 4:02Speaker 1: They have great goals.
- 4:03Speaker 1: They don't want to project any weaknesses or they're not put together.
- 4:08Speaker 1: They don't have their stuff together.
- 4:09Speaker 1: They don't want that.
- 4:10Speaker 1: So they're very success and they're concerned about what other people think.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Four is the individualist and usually more artsy, fartsy and a little bit more design artsy and within their emotions they're super complicated.
- 4:21Speaker 1: They want to be perceived as complicated and that people can understand them.
- 4:24Speaker 1: I think right, and, like I said, by no mean to my expert on this stuff.
- 4:28Speaker 1: I'm just introducing this concept and I would love to have any of your great experts on here.
- 4:32Speaker 1: We can deep dive in all this stuff a little bit more.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Five is the investigator.
- 4:36Speaker 1: The investigator usually very analytical, excel spreadsheets, introverted engineers, software engineers, researchers, the investigators.
- 4:49Speaker 1: They're not super social butterflies usually and more introverted, but super analytical and practical.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Sixes are the loyalist.
- 4:59Speaker 1: They're usually a little bit more on the skeptical side and if they're your friend and they trust you, it's trust and fear driven, is my understanding.
- 5:08Speaker 1: So they want security, they want to know all ramifications to make sure that everything's in place and like, everything's safe and that they trust you.
- 5:16Speaker 1: And as soon as you break their trust, they're gonna be skeptical for a long time.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Right, they get back into the trust circle is really hard.
- 5:22Speaker 1: That's the loyalist.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Seven is the enthusiast, and the enthusiast is super optimistic.
- 5:30Speaker 1: They want to have fun, fun, loving, happy, go lucky, and they want to do a lot of variable things.
- 5:36Speaker 1: They're usually a jack of all trades but a master at none, which is still better than a master of one, by the way.
- 5:42Speaker 1: That's the quote.
- 5:42Speaker 1: So have you ever heard that quote before?
- 5:43Speaker 1: Jack of all trades but a master of none.
- 5:46Speaker 1: You got to finish the quote, which is still better than a master of one.
- 5:49Speaker 1: That's the quote, but anyway.
- 5:51Speaker 1: So sevens I say that because I'm a high seven.
- 5:53Speaker 1: But sevens the enthusiasts are super optimistic, they're super high energy, they want positivity, they reject pessimism.
- 6:03Speaker 1: And it's like nails on a chalkboard If people are just naturally negative all the time and bringing Debbie Downers and stuff, it's just always tough to manage.
- 6:10Speaker 1: The other thing, though, on their negative side, is like if they're super high energy and they wanna do a lot of high variety of things, they might be starting a lot of projects and not finishing them and then start another project and not finish that one.
- 6:22Speaker 1: So they have a lot of unfinished projects that they have going on all at one time and they really can't manage that stuff.
- 6:27Speaker 1: So it may be a little bit more scatterbrained and then maybe not really the best at commitment.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Eights are the challengers.
- 6:33Speaker 1: They describe these people.
- 6:34Speaker 1: They're usually more confrontational, domineering, super goal driven.
- 6:38Speaker 1: They're leaders and they don't wanna be told what to do and their natural core desire is they don't so wanna be controlled.
- 6:45Speaker 1: They wanna have their own life and they're under their own control.
- 6:48Speaker 1: So they can be a little bit more aggressive and prickly on the edge, but then once you get to know them, they're usually a little bit softer.
- 6:53Speaker 1: So they're described as like a Mack truck filled with marshmallows.
- 6:57Speaker 1: That's usually what I've heard on eight being described as.
- 7:02Speaker 1: And then nine's are the peacemaker.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Peacemakers, from what they describe, is that they want they have a perfect worldview, that they want things to be in harmony.
- 7:10Speaker 1: They usually avoid confrontation.
- 7:12Speaker 1: They don't like conflict, they usually retract and avoid that.
- 7:16Speaker 1: So if there is a conflict they might be retracting and withdrawing from confrontational situations.
- 7:20Speaker 1: So if you have a more of a domineering personality engaged a lot with a peacemaker type personality, the domineering one might be advancing more and more offensively to get a conversation going and just get to the bottom of it, whereas the peacemaker might retract to get more quiet and then withdraw even further and then making the other person the more domineering wanna advance even further, like why are you walking away?
- 7:43Speaker 1: Why didn't you answer my questions?
- 7:44Speaker 1: And then making the nine's even more concerned.
- 7:46Speaker 1: So anyway, they're super empathetic and they usually have a lot of high capacity for understanding and wanna help people too.
- 7:55Speaker 1: So anyway, that's the gist of the Enneagram nine personality types and the visual they give is like in a circle and they all kind of interconnect and correlate with each other in different ways and it seems like the.
- 8:08Speaker 1: There's a lot of versions of tests you can take.
- 8:10Speaker 1: But what they seems like they describe is people ultimately choose what they think they are.
- 8:14Speaker 1: So if you take an assessment personality, one of these personality assessments of tests for the Enneagram, you'll score high on a lot of them right, like maybe two or three, your three highest scores and then you might have lower scores.
- 8:26Speaker 1: So you'll be elements of all nine right.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Some will be really low and then some will be very high right.
- 8:33Speaker 1: A lot of that can be determined on how you interpret each question to make.
- 8:37Speaker 1: That can skew your score.
- 8:38Speaker 1: So you can take multiple tests, do it multiple times maybe.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Have loved ones give some insights on maybe how do you think they should answer the question just for a couple of them.
- 8:49Speaker 1: But anyway, you score high on a lot of them right, two or three.
- 8:51Speaker 1: So your two or three highest scores.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Deep dive into what those person types are and then you ultimately choose what you are right Like.
- 8:59Speaker 1: I think I'm this more than this one right.
- 9:02Speaker 1: I scored high on this and I also scored high on that.
- 9:04Speaker 1: If I interpreted one question each way maybe a little bit differently, that could skew the results into four point swing, which may be this one higher.
- 9:11Speaker 1: Does that make sense.
- 9:12Speaker 1: And if you're between those two and you read them like I think I'm more this right you can have a loved one read the descriptions and be like if you were to read this which one do you think fits me more?
- 9:21Speaker 1: Get their opinion and insights too.
- 9:23Speaker 1: But ultimately you pick your own and it comes down to the decision being what's your core desire and your core fear?
- 9:30Speaker 1: Like, if someone's very success driven right, they could be a three, an eight, one, right, it's their goals and success driven.
- 9:39Speaker 1: But what's their core desire?
- 9:41Speaker 1: Like why are they doing that in the first place?
- 9:42Speaker 1: And what's their core fear, as in like I really wanna be success driven.
- 9:47Speaker 1: My self worth and self value is embedded in how successful I am.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Okay, that's gonna be more of a three.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Versus, I wanna make the world a better place and I have a different world view of how things should be done in the way that I think that might be more of a one or versus, like I wanna be the controller of my own life.
- 10:06Speaker 1: I wanna dictate my own life direction.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Right, that's why I'm pursuing this stuff and don't tell me what to do.
- 10:11Speaker 1: That's gonna be more of an eight.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
- 10:13Speaker 1: The core desires, between the reasons why people pursue stuff that dictates the lens in which they see the world and perceive the world, and their core fears of like what they don't wanna happen because I don't wanna be controlled, right.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Or maybe a seven would say something like I don't want to be my freedom and my ability to do fun things to be hampered right.
- 10:36Speaker 1: So that may be more of a seven core driven or core fear, core value.
- 10:40Speaker 1: So anyway, that's the integral.
- 10:41Speaker 1: I think it's really cool.
- 10:42Speaker 1: The times that I've taken it I'm usually more of an eight and I'm also a high seven, and then a three is my next highest one as well.
- 10:51Speaker 1: I seem to be consistently scoring eight, seven, three is my top three and the core desires would dictate, maybe like which one I would choose.
- 10:58Speaker 1: So anyway, I would encourage you guys to check it out.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't live my life by it.
- 11:02Speaker 1: It is a cool self reflection tool.
- 11:04Speaker 1: I have my wife take it.
- 11:05Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to my kids in the future, when they get a little bit older, taking it too, and things will change right.
- 11:11Speaker 1: Like perspectives and beliefs shift and people morph and evolve.
- 11:15Speaker 1: People evolve right In different phases of life, and there's something to consider too, like your number might change by the time you're 50, right, or from your 20s to your 50s, whatever, but it's something to consider.
- 11:26Speaker 1: But anyway, it's just a good self reflection tool and self assessment of why maybe I'm reacting a certain way and maybe how is my spouse react?
- 11:32Speaker 1: Like, how is my friend, how's my coworker maybe perceive this?
- 11:36Speaker 1: Right, how might, if I approach this conversation in this way let me have some forethought on this I can manage this better.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Right, I can be a better version of myself and manage and have some mindfulness better with these social interactions and relationships.
- 11:49Speaker 1: If I approach it this way, they might perceive it like that.
- 11:52Speaker 1: So let me do it this way instead and it might be better received and click for them better.
- 11:57Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
- 11:59Speaker 1: So if they react certain ways, like why has that person reacting like that?
- 12:01Speaker 1: Oh, like their core desire and core fear, based off what their Enneagram test might be, might suggest that makes sense.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Now I understand.
- 12:09Speaker 1: Let me have a little bit more empathy, maybe for this person right, or now have some better understanding and I can approach the situation better with some better clarity.
- 12:17Speaker 1: But anyway, so that's the Enneagram.
- 12:18Speaker 1: That's the introduction.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Like I said, there's polar.
- 12:21Speaker 1: We can deep dive and everything so much more.
- 12:23Speaker 1: There's podcasts dedicated only to Enneagram breakdowns, instagram profiles only dedicated to Enneagram breakdown and better ways of projecting some of these things and conveying some of this stuff, societies and conventions about this stuff.
- 12:37Speaker 1: So the Enneagram is really cool and, like I said, I just think it's a cool assessment tool that you can reflect on for yourself and other people in your life, but anyway.
- 12:46Speaker 1: So if you have any questions, I always reach out.
- 12:48Speaker 1: We always want more topics and suggestions or conflicting opinions to then bring it up.
- 12:52Speaker 1: We're always we want to answer questions and have good conversations for driven people that want self development, and the best way to reach us is our phone number at 561-899-8725 or our email is team at athleterccom.
- 13:05Speaker 1: So we'll catch you all next time.