Latest / Brandon Fogal Evolution / #135 - Are Alien Abductions Real? Michael Knowles vs The Rogue Archaeologist
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- 0:00So are alien abductions a real phenomena?
- 0:04Michael Knowles had his second sit down with Timothy Albarino and they discussed
- 0:10a lot of things but the one that I want to focus in on on this episode,
- 0:15is alien abductions because it was very interesting the whole conversation that they talked about.
- 0:20My name is Brandon Fogle. This is Evolution. Let's dive into this.
- 0:23All right so there are a couple or a few clips I want to show and we're going
- 0:26to just break it down because when I haven't got into the whole alien abduction thing per se,
- 0:34really, I, and I do immediately come to it skeptical because does it,
- 0:39does it go against the Bible?
- 0:41Is that, is like, say alien abductions are real. Aliens are real.
- 0:46I actually think aliens are real, but these alien abductions that are happening
- 0:49right here now, it's, I always come to it like, really, really?
- 0:54Would that crush my Christian faith if these are happening.
- 0:59I kind of want to maybe just flesh this out before we look at the clips is I'm
- 1:06saying aliens, I think that they are really out there.
- 1:09And when I say aliens, I don't know exactly what's going on,
- 1:13but I do think that there is something out there.
- 1:15And then, but the, I guess I just immediately think if someone says I was abducted,
- 1:21I don't, my antenna goes up. I don't immediately think that they're,
- 1:26they might've just been hallucinating.
- 1:28Something might've been going on in that arena. So I guess it does kind of go
- 1:32against, cause I'm saying one thing and another, but I'm just telling you how it is.
- 1:36I'm always just going to tell you what I think and what I, what I haven't fully
- 1:40fleshed this out because this was just released yesterday or the,
- 1:44their, their sit down and them talking about this.
- 1:48So, but yeah, I wanted to just kind of look at this and, and see,
- 1:52and also get some, what do you all think about this?
- 1:54Would this melt or crush the Christian worldview if these things are happening?
- 1:59And before I go any further, let's just take a first look at the first clip
- 2:03because Timothy is going to break down this.
- 2:06This is happening all over the world. But then,
- 2:09It seems like all of these events from all different walks of life are saying
- 2:14the same kind of thing is happening to them when you really dive into it.
- 2:18And they're going to get into the implants that are in people that they're finding
- 2:23from these abductions. But that's going to be in the next clip.
- 2:26This one right here is just the common theme of what is actually happening every
- 2:31time somebody gets taken up by these extraterrestrials.
- 2:36A beam of light in the room or a flash of light, and then a little gray guy
- 2:41appears, or usually three.
- 2:43Three little gray guys appear in the room, bald, diminutive,
- 2:47gray people with large almond-shaped black eyes.
- 2:53And usually the first thing that happens is these entities will come up to the
- 2:57abductee, who again is immobilized, awake but immobilized.
- 3:00Demobilized, and they'll look into their eyes and they'll communicate telepathically
- 3:04with them and attempt to calm them down.
- 3:07And then they extract the abductee from the bedroom, in this case.
- 3:12And that usually happens through a beam of light that's projected into the room.
- 3:17And they go through the beam of light, through the window, up into the craft.
- 3:21If the craft is not in proximity, then what happens is that the little gray
- 3:26guys, little gray aliens, will hold the abductee by the hand.
- 3:29They'll walk them through the house, down the stairs, out the front door,
- 3:33across the front yard, across the field, into the woods, into a clearing in
- 3:38the woods where the craft has landed.
- 3:40Say you were taken up by an alien. To my recollection, I have not been.
- 3:46But say I started telling people that I was. And I think a lot of people that
- 3:51have been abducted, they're not out there broadcasting it,
- 3:54all the time. Some people will, some people don't, but you would immediately
- 3:57think the person was crazy.
- 3:59So like, I'm trying to be as sober as possible when I discuss this.
- 4:04And I don't want to just feed into sensationalism because I don't necessarily want this to be true.
- 4:09I don't really want people being abducted, but I also do think there is something out there.
- 4:14There's something out there. And whether you could say it's fallen angels impersonating
- 4:19aliens or whatever, but what is an angel itself?
- 4:22Wouldn't it be an extraterrestrial outside of this realm?
- 4:26We might just, the Bible, because it becomes Bible-ese and we're just used to
- 4:31the, if the Bible says it, oh, that's, we put it in its own label,
- 4:34but it might be speaking about something that in our vernacular is aliens.
- 4:40Aliens, angel, like almost there is an equivalency there. Is that possibly what's
- 4:46going on, because there are physical manifestations of angels that are described,
- 4:52multiple times throughout the Bible.
- 4:53And they look like men. They have different characteristics.
- 4:58But just because it's in the Bible, I think it's easy just to shift one thing as opposed to the other.
- 5:05I'm going to put on my scientific hat over here, and then I'm going to put my
- 5:09Bible hat over here and never the two shall, you know, mix, but maybe there
- 5:13is some mixture in there.
- 5:15So I do, cause I think that there is going to be something that's going to,
- 5:18what, what, what event would cause all the world to come together?
- 5:23Something outside of this world. That's the only thing I could even think of
- 5:27that would bring everybody together into this one world government or one world,
- 5:31just everybody linking arms together,
- 5:34throwing down all divisions because of if, and then that would also cause something
- 5:39to happen that people would, if an alien invasion happened, people would immediately
- 5:45throw out the Bible because now we got real things happening.
- 5:48And the Bible was just a time for, you know, our early beginnings as a human species.
- 5:55Now we're, we're actually evolved and we're, we're seeing something in front
- 5:58of us because Because in the Bible, it talks about when all this stuff is going
- 6:03to hit the fan, that there's going to be a massive rebellion, a massive rebellion.
- 6:09And people that are not Christians, they're already rebelling.
- 6:15They're already out there. So it's not in that viewpoint, but it's going to
- 6:18be, there's going to be a massive rebellion within the community of faith.
- 6:22And what would cause the community of faith to just be shattered in their faith
- 6:26if extraterrestrials came? That might be something that immediately might lose
- 6:31all faith because now we're seeing aliens.
- 6:33But let's continue because now we're going to get into the implants because
- 6:37there's a lot of different details for every person that they experience when
- 6:45these occurrences happen.
- 6:48But one of them that just lasts with them, there's that these things are implanted
- 6:53into them and that they actually have these.
- 6:56And he's going to talk about somebody, a few people out there that have them now.
- 7:00And a lot of times doctors just don't want to touch them because,
- 7:04you know, it's going into surgery and kind of taking them out.
- 7:08Dr. Larry, he passed away, would go to extract these implants.
- 7:11They would evade, evade him in the body.
- 7:15So they're mobile. They move around. And then the third thing about them is
- 7:18that they seem to be composed of nanotubes, nanotechnology.
- 7:25And these have been extracted from abductees.
- 7:29Abductees have had them fall out of their noses, their nasal cavity,
- 7:33after an abduction episode.
- 7:35So I think all the abductees are implanted. I mean, we have,
- 7:39not me, but abduction researchers have the implants that have come out of people's
- 7:45bodies. So how do the skeptics explain that?
- 7:48Like me, how do I explain that? There is no explanation.
- 7:51So really, let's say inside of ufology, there's two camps.
- 7:58So among people who believe in an extraterrestrial presence or whatever it is,
- 8:02non-human intelligence, some of them believe that the abductions are actually
- 8:07happening and that the gray aliens are perpetrating this phenomenon.
- 8:12Others think that the government is perpetrating this phenomenon. Yeah.
- 8:15Yeah. If people are being abducted and there is because there's sometimes that
- 8:21it says that people are impregnated, you know, and then these these fetuses in them,
- 8:27they they live with them for a little bit and then they get abducted again and taken away.
- 8:30And he also goes into that a lot of times when it happens, the last thing that
- 8:36the people see is something behind them or if they're in their room,
- 8:40they see a flash of light.
- 8:41And then they've had neighbors being seen people taken up to these spacecraft
- 8:46or something taken up there. And then time just stops.
- 8:50Time is like in hyperspeed in a sense, but it stops here and then they're immediately
- 8:56back. I say I'm skeptical about this stuff, but I don't want to be a person that is just immediate.
- 9:02I want to hear people out. I guess there's that balancing act because I believe
- 9:07in outside world, worldly phenomena that is, does not, is that science cannot
- 9:11just explain everything.
- 9:12There's something beyond what we have right in front of us. So I guess there's
- 9:16that balanced, delicate act of just hearing people out.
- 9:20What is going on with these events? And since I haven't done the research myself.
- 9:25I'm taking it on Timothy's authority, Timothy Albarino's authority and his immense
- 9:31research that he has had over a decade of looking into this.
- 9:36And knowing people that are not just kooks or just crazy people that he personally
- 9:42knows that have experienced these things.
- 9:44I know you can be very suggestible. It's easy to be suggestible to something.
- 9:49You say it over and over. It gets embedded in your mind, and then you just start,
- 9:54experiencing it maybe because there are people who have a lot of things going on.
- 9:58Not everything that we have in front of us is always rational.
- 10:04And not everything that we're going to go through is always going to be measured
- 10:08and perfectly in tune with what is science.
- 10:13But there might be outside forces that are kind of just interacting with people.
- 10:17And we just got to, I think I want to be as open-minded as possible,
- 10:20but have like a skeptical vision of when I'm looking at it as well.
- 10:25I don't know if you're, you have that same viewpoint or if you're bought in one way or the other.
- 10:29You know, I don't want to come to this because this, like I've said,
- 10:31I've, I'm researching evolution itself and Darwinism.
- 10:35And I told you, I would keep you updated on that. The more I am studying that,
- 10:39the more I am looking into that and researching that it does not seem,
- 10:44it seems just like another faith of how this all came about,
- 10:49you know, but even like highly intelligent people, they just accept it and just assume it.
- 10:53I'm not saying it's didn't happen, but I'm not immediately where like the science
- 10:58that is presented to me is not completely compelling that I have to jump on board.
- 11:03And so I will, I'm going to continue to study evolution and Darwinism and explain
- 11:09what my viewpoint of it, because I'm going to have a, as much as I can,
- 11:14a sober view of these things and just give you, give you how it is.
- 11:18I'm not going to be sensational about stuff. I'm going to tell you if it's,
- 11:22if it seems bunk and right now evolution and all of that, you know,
- 11:27I'm not saying it didn't happen.
- 11:29I'm not saying that all of that, you know, that we just evolved as a species
- 11:33didn't happen, but it's, it seems like it's just another faith.
- 11:38It seems like it's just another faith.
- 11:40You're just taking it on other people's authority. And I guess that's how we do a lot of things.
- 11:44But on this last clip, this is those implants that are being put into people.
- 11:49I wanted to show you this.
- 11:51He actually says that certain people have them And he's going to throw out a
- 11:55pretty big name that you will be aware of.
- 11:58When you do extract them, again, they seem to be covered in a membrane,
- 12:02some kind of an organic membrane.
- 12:05And they're very, very difficult to cut, really hard to cut.
- 12:11They've looked at them with the electron microscopes, and they've discovered,
- 12:16as I said before, like nanotubes.
- 12:17So there seems to be some kind of a nanotechnology associated with these things.
- 12:21But quite a few of them have been extracted.
- 12:25From abductees. So where are they? I want to see one of these things. Well, Lear had some.
- 12:29It's rumored that Steven Spielberg has some. I've got people who come to me.
- 12:34Right now, I've got a couple of people who have identified an implant and they
- 12:41want to get it extracted and analyzed. Okay.
- 12:43So Steven Spielberg might have one. I mean, that'd be the guy you would think
- 12:47of, you know, maybe. I don't know.
- 12:49But if certain people have these things and they are in people's bodies,
- 12:53it says they're evasive.
- 12:55They're not easy to pull out. They're not easy to get.
- 12:59And they would be dangerous doing it. And a lot of people don't know that they
- 13:02have them in them, but then they're discovered by x-ray or something that just shows them.
- 13:07And then it brings to remembrance this event that happened to them that they
- 13:13probably just suppressed and just pushed it away.
- 13:17Other memories were put into them. You know, this is kind of men in black stuff,
- 13:21but whether things are out there, I already think things are out there,
- 13:26that there are aliens out there.
- 13:28I just hadn't gone down this route of people actually being abducted.
- 13:31So it's very interesting to me.
- 13:34I think I'm more on the side of Michael Knowles. He was, he doesn't immediately
- 13:38buy into it, but Timothy Albarino is very convincing and he's very measured.
- 13:43He's not just, he's not a crazy guy just saying this stuff. And he he doesn't
- 13:48really put himself on the many things that he discusses.
- 13:52He doesn't just say, oh, it's true. It's true.
- 13:55And but this, it seems like he he really believes that people are being abducted
- 14:00or at least the evidence is there that these events are taking place.
- 14:05I guess you got to hear everybody at their own what they're when they describe what they went through.
- 14:10But it's very interesting to me. I'm glad that these guys talked about it.
- 14:13So if you'd like to continue this conversation, hit this link right here and
- 14:17I will see you all in the next one.