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Lindsay Clancy is SO Last week, we're talking about Jane Doe now! | HBR News 572 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: This is HBR News number 572. Lindsay Clancy is so
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  Speaker 1: last week. We're talking about Jane Doe now, where we
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  Speaker 1: discuss the news of the week and give it the
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  Speaker 1: badger treatment. Hello everybody and welcome back to Honey Badger Radio.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you guys are doing well this week and
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  Speaker 1: that you are laughing at all of this insanity so
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  Speaker 1: that you are not consumed by it. I'm your host, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: I'm joined by, as always, my lovely co-hosts, Hannah Wallen
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  Speaker 1: and Dr. Ranmar Cam. On today's HBR News show, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be talking about the Cornell 7 case, which
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  Speaker 1: has been basically like everywhere right now. And I think
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  Speaker 1: it is for a number of reasons. But we're here
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  Speaker 1: to cut through all of the BS and give it
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  Speaker 1: to you straight, at least as straight as we know it.
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  Speaker 1: We're also going to be talking about some of the,
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  Speaker 1: let's say, side effects of that, like Kathy Hochul, governor
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  Speaker 1: of New York, trying to call for an end to
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  Speaker 1: what she calls the intoxication loophole. A death row inmate
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  Speaker 1: seems to be immortal and more, so stick around. It's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a good time. And be sure to
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  Speaker 1: join us afterwards for the patron-only show. So on this
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  Speaker 1: patron-only show, I can't help but notice, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: always say, and we'll talk about this more in the
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  Speaker 1: patron show, but I always say that feminists almost never
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  Speaker 1: hold themselves to the same standards they expect for other women.
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  Speaker 1: And Margot Robbie, the actress known for her role in
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  Speaker 1: the Barbie movie, which was a very, very feminist movie.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what anybody says. It absolutely was. She
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  Speaker 1: made the cardinal sin of taking the last name of
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  Speaker 1: her husband and getting married to begin with. And not
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  Speaker 1: all the other feminists are happy about that, including Rebecca
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  Speaker 1: Shaw here, who said, Margot Robbie changing her name to
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  Speaker 1: her husband's hurts my beautiful lesbian brain. Here's why. So
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  Speaker 1: we're going to look at this. in the patron show.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what a beautiful brain looks.
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  Speaker 2: Like, but we're supposed to care, right?
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  Speaker 1: We're supposed to care. She wrote it in the guardian.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. This is, is she related to this
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  Speaker 2: woman in any way at all?
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. She is a, she is a part
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  Speaker 1: of the sisterhood that that's, that's how they see it.
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  Speaker 3: Like when Natalie Portman changed her name to, from Natalie,
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  Speaker 3: her slag to Natalie Portman, or when, uh, Jennifer Anastasakis
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  Speaker 3: changed her name to Jennifer Aniston. Nobody gave a shit
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  Speaker 3: because they were just changing them for the sake of
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  Speaker 3: their Hollywood career. But if you give your name to
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  Speaker 3: a man or if you allow a man to give
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  Speaker 3: you his name, that's beyond the pale.
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  Speaker 2: And apparently it's everybody else's business. See, that's the thing
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  Speaker 2: that gets me. We are told to stay out of
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  Speaker 2: women's business, right? We're told, you know, like men are
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  Speaker 2: told no uterus, no opinion. But if a woman is pro-life, well,
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  Speaker 2: it's not her business either because it's not her uterus either.
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  Speaker 2: And we're told stay out of women's sex life, stay
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  Speaker 2: out of this, stay out of that. But as soon
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  Speaker 2: as a woman gets married and takes the man's name,
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  Speaker 2: the same women who say all that bullshit feel comfortable
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  Speaker 2: having a cow about it in public. Because they never
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  Speaker 2: meant stay out of our business. They just meant let
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  Speaker 2: us do whatever the hell we want.
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  Speaker 3: Believe all women until they tell you something you don't
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  Speaker 3: want to hear. That is going to come up in
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  Speaker 3: several of the stories tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Stay tuned, folks. So anyway, if you guys want to
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  Speaker 1: met Margot Robbie, doesn't know who she is, has no
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  Speaker 1: out of the way, we are now going to get
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  Speaker 1: into today's stories. All right, first things first. We got
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  Speaker 1: to talk about Cornell. Oh, I got a super chow today,
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  Speaker 1: but it was before the show. So I'll go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and read it really quick. So I got two. One
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  Speaker 1: from Laptop215 who gave us $ 10 and said, Honey for
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  Speaker 1: the Badgers, heavy topic. This was for my guest yesterday. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I have nothing other to contribute. Also, too late. I
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  Speaker 1: sent this on October 5th. Yes, that was yesterday. Then
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  Speaker 1: DarkKigimora sent us $ 100. Thank you, DarkKigimora. Really appreciate it. Doc,
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  Speaker 1: 12 years ago, I had your response videos replace the
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  Speaker 1: usual South Park slash Simpsons slash Adult Swim reruns I
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  Speaker 1: used to have on the background while playing video games.
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  Speaker 1: One game I used to play all the time was
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  Speaker 1: the Sega Master System version of Wonder Boy in Monster
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  Speaker 1: Land and play a drinking game when the heart meters
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  Speaker 1: filled up. So when your Gamer Gator video came out
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  Speaker 1: later where you covered that Wonder Boy song, I was
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  Speaker 1: blown away. But I just want to know if that
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  Speaker 1: was a tribute to Wonder Boy in Monsterland or The
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  Speaker 1: Dragon's Trap, since that song was technically in both, and
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  Speaker 1: which one is your favorite and which system?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Wonder Boy and The Dragon's Trap was my....
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  Speaker 2: Fucking.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know what the word is. It was
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  Speaker 3: one of the first video games that ever blew my mind.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I have to have a Master System now.
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  Speaker 3: The Master System had better music and sound effects than
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  Speaker 3: the Genesis. Fight me. I know everyone talks about Sonic
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  Speaker 3: on the Genesis, but Sonic on the Master System is
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  Speaker 3: a hidden gem. Especially the music. Every track was a banger.
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  Speaker 3: Fucking all of you go back and play Sonic 1
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  Speaker 3: and Sonic 2, kind of think of it, on the
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  Speaker 3: Master System.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Every track was a banger. People often ask me what
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  Speaker 3: my musical influences were. And long before I started listening
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  Speaker 3: to actual bands and stuff, I was sat there with
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  Speaker 3: my little black box that was the Master System. drooling
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  Speaker 3: over the fucking amazing music that was in them and
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  Speaker 3: that's why I sat down and covered every track from
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  Speaker 3: Wonder Boy 3 The Dragon's Trap because it's not just
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  Speaker 3: a great game it's a great game with a great
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  Speaker 3: soundtrack and yeah it takes a certain small gap in
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  Speaker 3: the generations the Xennials I think who can appreciate what
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying, even the small gap within the Xennials who
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  Speaker 3: played Wonder Boy 3, The Dragon's Trap, and indeed the
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  Speaker 3: Sonic games on the Master System. They were better than
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  Speaker 3: the Genesis versions. Fucking fight me.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. I never played the Master System stuff, so I'll
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  Speaker 1: have to look it up. I'll have to look it up.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you for the super chows. Okay, now we're
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  Speaker 1: going to get into the story. So this is a
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  Speaker 1: big one. It is the story, the Cornell 7 story.
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  Speaker 1: So the Cornell 7, for the record, is not a
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  Speaker 1: criminal conviction. It is a media label for seven Chi
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  Speaker 1: Phi members named in a September 2026 civil lawsuit, civil lawsuit,
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  Speaker 1: this is important detail, by a former Cornell student currently
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  Speaker 1: named Jane Doe. Someone in the live chat is saying
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  Speaker 1: that her name is Lucy Craig and that people should
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  Speaker 1: know her name since we have the names of the seven.
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  Speaker 3: There have been several different possibilities as to who Jane
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  Speaker 3: Doe is. And it's kind of not important. It's more
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  Speaker 3: important that the Cornell seven have been named. None of
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  Speaker 3: them are John Doe's. We're not referring to them as
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  Speaker 3: the seven Cornell John Doe's. They've all been doxxed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've all been doxxed. But anyway, we'll just leave
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  Speaker 1: it Jane Doe for now. No one has been charged
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  Speaker 1: with any criminal case. What is documented is an ugly
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  Speaker 1: night at a fraternity house, a sworn statement that prosecutors
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  Speaker 1: said did not describe a crime, a later Title IX
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  Speaker 1: process with mixed results, and a political and media campaign
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  Speaker 1: that has treated the lawsuit's version as settled facts. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so what happened? On the night of October 19th and
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  Speaker 1: 20th of 2024, Doe, then 20, and a Delta Delta
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  Speaker 1: Delta member went to Cornell's Chi Phi house after drinking.
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  Speaker 1: She reported the episode to Cornell police around November 8th,
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  Speaker 1: so this is like a couple weeks later, and and
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  Speaker 1: gave a long interview on November 14th. Police reduced that
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  Speaker 1: interview to a six-page sworn statement. She made more than
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  Speaker 1: 20 handwritten corrections to it. Tompkins County District Attorney Matthew
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  Speaker 1: Van Houten declined charges on that record. In a September 28,
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  Speaker 1: 2026 public statement, he wrote that the sworn account, quote,
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  Speaker 1: did not allege that she was drugged against her will
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  Speaker 1: or gang-raped. and instead described her participation in drug use
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  Speaker 1: and sexual conduct as voluntary, conscious, and consensual. He also
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  Speaker 1: said that when she asked to stop particular acts, the
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  Speaker 1: conduct stopped, and that failure to remember later events is
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  Speaker 1: not proof that she was unconscious at the time. He
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  Speaker 1: called some of the men's behavior disgusting and morally reprehensible,
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  Speaker 1: and said that that is not the same thing as
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  Speaker 1: a prosecutable crime. Reporting based on the longer transcript and
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  Speaker 1: Title IX file adds context to the six-page statement left out,
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  Speaker 1: but does not erase the earlier account. Doe told investigators
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  Speaker 1: the night began with a threesome she was pretty okay with.
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  Speaker 1: This is her quote. She said, I was pretty okay
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  Speaker 1: with this, basically. Though she was drunk. They were too.
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  Speaker 1: She later texted one of the men that, quote, 90%
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  Speaker 1: of what happened that night was not consensual, end quote.
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  Speaker 1: And this is later, okay? And in the interview said, quote,
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  Speaker 1: I can say with 100% confidence I was raped, end quote.
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  Speaker 1: So it went from I'm fine to pretty good chance
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  Speaker 1: I was raped to I was definitely raped. The New
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  Speaker 1: York Times reported that the rape sentence was not in
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  Speaker 1: the summary sent to the district attorney. She also told
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  Speaker 1: police she took more ketamine in part because she thought
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  Speaker 1: that if she passed out and sex continued, the men
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  Speaker 1: could be charged. That is her later stated reasoning, not
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  Speaker 1: independent proof of incapacity. The men in Title IX interviews
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  Speaker 1: denied nonconsensual sex. Four said sexual contact happened and was consensual.
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  Speaker 1: Several said she initiated. Yes, yes, we got that as well.
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  Speaker 1: At least one lawyer has said a hair test showed
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  Speaker 1: no ketamine in the client's. One attorney acknowledged the defendant
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  Speaker 1: thoughtlessly sent a group chat message but denied sex or
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  Speaker 1: drug use. So one of the people, one of the men,
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  Speaker 1: didn't even, you know, wasn't even there, but he was
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  Speaker 1: a part of the group chat. Screenshots included in the
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  Speaker 1: civil complaint show messages in a Chi-Fi Active's Snapchat, Snapchat thread,
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  Speaker 1: including free pussy and shop till open? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: These messages are maybe morally foul and, if authenticated, show
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  Speaker 1: crude talk about a woman upstairs, but they do not
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  Speaker 1: by themselves prove any rape, drugging, or who did what.
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  Speaker 1: Cornell's Title IX process, early 2025, is the only adjudication
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  Speaker 1: so far. The university has said sanctions included expulsions and
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  Speaker 1: suspensions and that sci-fi remains barred from campus. Public reporting
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  Speaker 1: of the outcomes to expelled two suspended for at least
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  Speaker 1: two semesters, one already graduated, two found not responsible for
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  Speaker 1: any sexual misconduct. Cornell has denied the viral claim that
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  Speaker 1: the others got off by writing essays. Title IX uses
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  Speaker 1: a lower standard than criminal court and is not a
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  Speaker 1: finding of guilt. And that's one of the reasons why
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  Speaker 1: people use Title IX, like sort of college kangaroo courts,
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  Speaker 1: because the standard of evidence is a lot lower than
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  Speaker 1: actual criminal courts. The civil complaint, filed in mid-September of 2026,
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  Speaker 1: names seven men, Matthew Ingalls, Jonathan Newell, Winston Lee, Gilio Lopez,
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  Speaker 1: Diego Sarabia, Scott Norris, Scott Kretschmarl, Cornell, Shifi, Tri-Delta, and
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  Speaker 1: an Ithaca bar. It alleges pressure to take ketamine, incapacity,
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  Speaker 1: and hours of non-consensual sex. This is what it alleges, okay,
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  Speaker 1: after the group chat. Those are the pleadings. They have
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  Speaker 1: not been tested in court, and they conflict with the
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  Speaker 1: 2024 sworn statement the DA relied on. So, the reason
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  Speaker 1: why I'm bringing this story up is not just because
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  Speaker 1: of some of the obvious stuff connected to it, but
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  Speaker 1: also because it is being used as a political weapon
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  Speaker 1: against being that it is October and the midterms are
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  Speaker 1: next month, and you think that that's not relevant, but
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  Speaker 1: it 100% is. After the lawsuit, coverage largely adopted the
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  Speaker 1: complainant's framing of gang rape, the Cornell 7, etc. This
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  Speaker 1: is like the way the media has covered it, and
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  Speaker 1: treated the absence of charges as institutional failure rather than
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  Speaker 1: an evidence problem. Activist sites published the men's names. Doe's
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  Speaker 1: lawyer has said she is quote, gratified by the outpouring
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  Speaker 1: of support, end quote. Van Houten reopened the file under
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  Speaker 1: that pressure and said he was only then seeing the
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  Speaker 1: group chat. Governor Kathy Hochul, which we're going to cover
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  Speaker 1: in the next story, then stripped him of the case.
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  Speaker 1: On October 1st, 2026, Kathy Hochul appointed Attorney General Letitia James,
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  Speaker 1: the woman who was basically going, she ran on going
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  Speaker 1: after Trump for, let's say, charges that are similar. a
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  Speaker 1: special prosecutor saying she had, quote, lost faith, end quote,
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  Speaker 1: in the DA. James had already posted days earlier that
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  Speaker 1: what Doe, quote, has been forced to endure is horrific
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  Speaker 1: and unacceptable, end quote, and addressed, quote, all survivors, end quote.
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  Speaker 1: Asked why she treated the allegations as fact before any
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  Speaker 1: investigation of her own, she declined to discuss the post.
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  Speaker 1: That is a prosecutor publicly adopting the complainant's side before
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  Speaker 1: reviewing any of the evidence. The New York Times noted
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  Speaker 1: the political utility. Hochul is running against Republican Bruce Blakeman,
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  Speaker 1: and the appointment lets her look tough on crime and
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  Speaker 1: aligned with, quote, survivors, end quote. The Democratic Women's Caucus
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  Speaker 1: called the case a wake-up call and used it to
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  Speaker 1: demand that the Trump administration tighten Title IX. Nancy Pelosi
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  Speaker 1: canceled a Cornell event. Victim's lawyers have folded the Snapchat
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  Speaker 1: thread into a story about fraternity-slash-manosphere culture. The local DA
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  Speaker 1: has reported threatening calls. Of course they have. The exploitable
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  Speaker 1: gap is the mismatch between the 2024 statement and the
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  Speaker 1: 2026 lawsuit. Supporters treat the later, stronger account, the omitted
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  Speaker 1: I was raped line, and the disgusting chat as proof
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  Speaker 1: the system buried a gang rape. What the record actually
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  Speaker 1: shows is a contested sexual encounter with drugs and alcohol,
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  Speaker 1: a sworn statement prosecutors read as consensual, a campus process
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  Speaker 1: that expelled two men and cleared two others, and no
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  Speaker 1: criminal charges. A political move has been to skip that
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  Speaker 1: distinction and convert an untested civil complaint into a national
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  Speaker 1: indictment of fraternities, prosecutors, and Title IX. And that's like
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  Speaker 1: not even including like the way that women are reacting
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  Speaker 1: to this all over social media, Basically, the Lindsay Clancy
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  Speaker 1: case is out of style, and now we're doing this,
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  Speaker 1: and it's all coming down on men as a collective,
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  Speaker 1: not just the seven, but men everywhere. But I will
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  Speaker 1: cede the floor for now and let you guys give
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts on this case. Anybody?
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  Speaker 3: I'm sitting here letting Hannah speak and I think Hannah's
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: sitting here letting me speak.
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  Speaker 2: Did you already have something written for this?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I will let you go first then. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: The idea that anyone can get chef face drunk and
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  Speaker 3: then take ketamine and then be quote unquote 100% sure
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  Speaker 3: of what happened next is.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not just pressing X to doubt. I'm
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  Speaker 3: mashing it like a speedrunner. There are many morals to
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  Speaker 3: this story, kids. And there are many layers of those morals.
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  Speaker 3: You probably shouldn't get shit-faced drunk. Unless, like me, you're
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  Speaker 3: a professional and you're doing it for professional reasons. But
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  Speaker 3: if you do get shit-faced drunk, don't have sex with strangers.
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  Speaker 3: or even peripheral acquaintances. If you're a man, don't go
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  Speaker 3: to a sorority. And if you're a woman, don't go
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  Speaker 3: to a fraternity in general, but especially if you happen
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  Speaker 3: to be blackout drunk at the time. I know it's
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  Speaker 3: difficult to offer advice to follow in the event of
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  Speaker 3: being blackout drunk, because at that point, you're unlikely to
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  Speaker 3: remember any advice you may have heard while you were
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  Speaker 3: consciously forming memories, but... you might if I really drill
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  Speaker 3: that advice home as much as I can so that's
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  Speaker 3: what I'm doing you probably shouldn't take ketamine at all
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  Speaker 3: especially if it's illegal and definitely not in the company
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  Speaker 3: of strangers And definitely, definitely not if you are already drunk.
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  Speaker 3: You shouldn't mix drugs whatsoever is a very good rule
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  Speaker 3: of thumb. But some combinations of drugs are not just inadvisable,
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  Speaker 3: but catastrophic. Obviously, I wouldn't know from personal experience because
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  Speaker 3: it's illegal and I would never do anything illegal. But
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  Speaker 3: according to many a trip report, Ketamine on its own
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  Speaker 3: is a sort of trippy tranquilizer that floats you a
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  Speaker 3: few inches outside of your body. Makes it feel like
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  Speaker 3: the room is a different room or whatever. But if
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  Speaker 3: you take ketamine when you're drunk, it becomes something akin
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  Speaker 3: to a medical anesthetic. Like I explained a few weeks
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  Speaker 3: ago when we were talking about assisted suicide, a medical
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: anesthetic is... Blackout is not like an alcohol blackout. You
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: don't even experience time. You sort of, you lean back
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: in your chair, the world fades to black, and then
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: what seems like seconds later, you're back in the room,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: but it's actually hours later. So if you're interested in
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: having a fun experience, do not mix ketamine with alcohol.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Because you will experience nothing. Literally nothing. At least as
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: far as your memory is concerned. Like I said, it's
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: not like an alcohol blackout where you wake up with
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: a few vague, blurry memories that you can just about
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: piece together if and when someone reminds you.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: No.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: With ketamine and alcohol, there's just nothing. Just a black hole.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: that sucked all the space-time from your memory and is
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: just lost in the singularity of a cosmic hologram. All
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: you did was give Satan complete control over your body
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: for a brief period, and then you wake up with
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: absolutely no idea what the fuck just happened. I dread
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: to think what happened in that room, in that fraternity.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: between several people all under Satan's control. And to be honest,
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: if all they did was have sex, they got off lightly.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Nobody broke any bones. Nobody fell out of a window.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Nobody rested their face in a puddle of their own
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: vomit and then drowned because they couldn't be bothered to move. Okay,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: count your lucky stars. Satan showed you mercy that day.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: To come away from it going, I was raped, is...
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, Satan raped you. Satan raped all of you.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: You don't need to get the police involved. The police
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: can't possibly know what happened either. Nobody knows what happened
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: except Satan. And, I guess, anyone who wasn't on ketamine
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: and alcohol and walked in and witnessed what was going on.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: But I doubt they could fathom everything either. But they
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: are also among the Cornell 7. Weirdly enough. This is
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: one of those situations where the drugs are their own punishment.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: If it's a room full of sober people administering drugs
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: to one person and then taking advantage of that one person, yes,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: that's pretty much a form of torture. It happens all
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: the time in Britain. at the hands of people whose
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: ideology forbids them from getting intoxicated, but does not forbid
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: them from drugging and raping infidels. Some people do indeed
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: use drugs as weapons, but some people use them like
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: they're food. They take them together as a group, and
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: then they lie spread-eagled before Satan, and they see what happens.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: It sounds to me like the latter is what happened
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: that day in that fraternity. It's gross, it's horrific, and
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: ideally it should never happen, but everyone involved was as
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: much a perpetrator as they were a victim. It would
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: be pretty helpful, in my opinion, if we focused even
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: a fraction of this outrage towards the situation's in which
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: drugs and alcohol are indeed used as weapons, not just
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: from college student to college student, but from grown adults
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: to children. I get that it's not happening in America
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: like it's happening over here in Europe, but it will. Hell,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: maybe it already is. Maybe we're getting so distracted by
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: women who think they're the victims of their own choices
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: that we're just overlooking them. those who are actual victims
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: of the sinister actions of protected classes. And yes, that
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: includes the men who are victims of women. Needless to say,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not a real doctor. None of this is medical advice.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: It might not be medical advice, but it is pretty
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: good advice. What I don't get, there's a bunch of
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: things here, actually.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Um.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: one of them is how after what, 40 years of
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: dare and other programs, teaching young people not to do
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: this stupid shit. And at least 30 years that I
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: know of possibly longer of consent training in universities, which
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: that was a feminist gig. Right. And, uh, Many Hollywood movies, TV,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: made-for-movie or made-for-TV movies, you know, after-school specials, all kinds
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: of websites, all kinds of feminist, hang a t-shirt on
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: a clothesline for everybody to see your business activities where
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: they talk about this. Take back the night rallies where
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: they talk about this. Orientation at universities where they talk
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: about this. How did these students get into this situation
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: without any possible idea that this might happen to them?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: How did these seven guys and this chick manage to
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: get into the middle of a party with no clue
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: that they should not mix all these drugs and alcohol
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: and sex, and that somebody might come out later and
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: say that it wasn't consensual. How could they have missed
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: every news story, every discussion that took place on the internet,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: every argument that people had here and there in political
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: forums or in groups discussions at parties, at wherever, how,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: what kind of a cave did they crawl out of
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: to just suddenly discover that there are issues around group
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: sex on university campuses? Or, let's go the other way around,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: who the fuck is not doing their job? Because if
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: it was my responsibility on a university campus to ensure
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: that the students knew that shit like this is a
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: dumb idea, they would know. If I had to go
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: into every dormitory room and personally have that discussion, they
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: would know. So how does a prestigious university have eight students...
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: That had no idea. How dumb their behavior was. If
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I was. A parent of any of those students. I'd
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: be suing. University over that.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: And.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: On top of that. Doesn't every. Fraternity. And sorority house.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Have some sort of leadership.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Leadership.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: That is supposed to be adult, not just adult as
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: in a university student, but older than that? Isn't there
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: somebody that's supposed to be over and above that they're
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: supposed to have some sort of orientation there as well?
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: So there are several people that should be getting held
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: accountable for just on the fact that these students thought
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: this was a fun idea. and didn't expect to have
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: any problems with it. But let's assume that's all taken
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: care of or maybe there isn't anybody that was responsible.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: The university didn't have consent training. There are no feminists
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: on that entire campus and that kind of discussion just
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: never happened. To be intelligent enough to attend a university
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: like this, shouldn't you be able to figure it out?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: The idea that you're there for some sort of job preparation, right?
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: You're studying something to become a professional in some capacity.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: And you're trying to build your resume with your actions
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: on campus. And you're trying to create an image of
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: a person who maybe goes out for sports, maybe is
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: involved in this club or that organization and campus organization, whatever.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: How does this fit into that? How does going to
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: a frat party with at least the intention of having
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: a threesome, getting drunk and stoned at the same time,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: and partying like a demon, how does that fit into
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: building your resume? What kind of a great idea is that? But,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: you know, she's not responsible because she chose to ingest
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: things that could destroy her brain.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: That's the reason. Because she chose, she consensually shut off
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: her brain. She turned off the one thing that she
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: needed to make the best decisions to do the wise
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: thing to know what was going on around her. And
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: to determine her own actions. And respond to the actions.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Of the people nearby. She shut that off. Among a
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: group of strangers. And I'm going to believe. That that was.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: An accident.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: But I think. We're dealing with an individual. Who likes
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: to play rough. Likes to. party, likes to walk along
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: the edge, likes to do things that feel dangerous and
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: a little bit crazy, but was embarrassed at how it
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: might look to other people and didn't want to talk
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: about it, didn't want other people to talk about it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: And so now, now she's accusing people of making her
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: do it. And I've seen a lot of discussion about
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: this on on social media, but I haven't really seen
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of the news stories. So I've seen a
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: lot of people saying this or that about what was
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: true or what wasn't true. The thing that everybody seems
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: to agree on is that nobody forced her to do
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: anything against her will. Nobody made her use drugs. Nobody
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: else was sober. And nobody tricked her into using more
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: drugs than anybody else was using. So she was in
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: the same mental condition as the guys. They were in
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: the same mental condition as she was. If women cannot
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: be responsible for things that men are expected to be
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: responsible for, then we are not equal and equal rights
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: goes out the window. The claim that that women should
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: have equal rights to men, is predicated strictly on the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: idea that we are equal. It's not based on everybody's human.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: It's based on anything men can do, women can also do. Well,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: here's something that we're getting told men not only can do,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: but it's going to be imposed on them. The obligation
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: is going to be imposed on them. You will be responsible.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: for everything you do while intoxicated, intoxicated no matter how intoxicated,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: and maybe even no matter why you're intoxicated. But women
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: get a drop of alcohol in their blood, get a
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: whiff of any kind of drug in their system, and
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, no matter how awake and alert
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: and capable of decision-making they were in the moment, They're
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: a victim of anything that happened after that. That's childish
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: as hell. And until women can take the same responsibility
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: as men, I don't see any reason why men should
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: have respect for women as equals. Maybe as special needs adults.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: The same way that you would have respect for the
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: special needs of someone in a wheelchair, but this is
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: a mental wheelchair, right? You know, if you're in a
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: grocery store and you see somebody coming in a mobility
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: device and you can tell they're having a hard time
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: getting through narrow spaces, you kind of get out of
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: their way because they've got enough of a difficult time already, right?
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: But there's a lot of things you wouldn't expect from
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: that individual. And there's a lot of things that you
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: wouldn't trust that individual with because they've got vulnerabilities and
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: weaknesses that make them incapable of doing some of the
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: things that are easy for you. Well, if women are
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: the same way just by virtue of being female, then
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: it calls into question... Everything women have said about equal
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: work and equal voting rights, equal ability to do the
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: job of a politician, like anything that women have demanded
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: entry into, now is in question. So unless you're going
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: to play that game, unless you're going to turn around
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: and say, okay, well, maybe women can't do equal work.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe women aren't qualified for some jobs. Maybe women shouldn't
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: be qualified to vote, maybe women shouldn't be qualified to
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: run for leadership positions, then unless you're going to do that,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: then you shouldn't be suggesting that women are uniquely, by
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: virtue of their sex, incapable of being as responsible for
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: their choices made while drunk as we expect men to be.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: And that's pretty much the meat in the middle of
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: this case.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: She was the meat in the case, Hannah.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Are men and women equal or aren't they?
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Are men and women equally capable of being responsible for
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: themselves while intoxicated or not?
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Your answer to that question is your answer to this case.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say something that might be, I
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: think I'm going to bring a little bit of a
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: hot take here, but first of all, obviously, this case
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: is two years old. It's coming up now because of midterms.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: That's the only reason why I think we're hearing about this.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: So expect a lot of posturing and grandstanding by people
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: like AOC and other politicians, but I'm not here to
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: address that. I'm just, I'm First of all, bringing this
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: up because this is the reason why this has become
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the talk. It's the latest moral panic. It's the latest
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: flood the zone tactic to get women in particular riled
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: up so that they'll basically vote for whoever they tell
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: them to based on this for an L7, which is
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: why people like Letitia James and Kathy Hochul are trying
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: to like, Connect this to patriarchy and men and Trump
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: and all this other stuff, right? They're calling for him
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: to do something about Title IX. It's a political football.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: But that's not what I want to bring up. I
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: already brought that up and that would be part of
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: the next story. Obviously, women are a very useful tool
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to people who want power because it's obvious that they are.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Just for whatever reason, it works. The other thing is
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: that What I think we're running into with this, and
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I see this as a pattern, I've seen, you know,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Mattress Girl, which is the same thing, Brock Turner, the
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Rolling Stone article about that gang rape that happened, the lacrosse,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: you know, gang rape. And again, after most of these
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: turned out that the man was innocent or the charges
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: are not, you know, nearly as serious or whatever, the
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: women have lied. It's almost like a thing that has
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: happened over and over and over again, and this is
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: just the same thing. And of course, people have the
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: memories of Goldfish, so they don't really remember that anymore.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: But what it got me thinking is, why is this
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: so difficult for feminists to take issue with? Because they're
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the ones, or the woman, Jane Doe in this case,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: She said in text messages that she is sexually liberated
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: and that she sees no reason why she can't do this.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: It's her freedom, which is basically she made feminist arguments
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: in private messages to these men to explain away why
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: she was okay with doing what she was doing. So
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: feminists can't condemn her. And look, it's not just feminist
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: activists I'm talking about. I'm talking about the entire school
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: because it's a, it's a, Ivy League University. And the
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: more prestigious the universities are, the more feminist those places are.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: So they literally cannot condemn on the grounds of her
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: exercising her consent. So now they have to create a
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: new story where there was no consent or there may
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: not have been consent, which is what she's trying to
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: go with. As a matter of fact, it was revealed
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: that she learned About, she learned after the fact, by
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: reading about it online somewhere, that what happened to her
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: could have been qualified as rape, and she didn't think
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: it was at the time. But then she saw the
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: utility in using it that way, because she learned she
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: was also disinvited from a Halloween party, which is how
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: all this stuff came up, because she was angry with
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: the fraternity for not inviting her, because the person with
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the man who was the head of the fraternity was like,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: She could bring a lot of trouble here. I don't
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: think she should come down because we heard about what
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: happened before with like the, you know, the orgy with
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: the other men. Even though again, she like was in
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: contact with those guys after that and was totally like
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: fine with seeing them again. Like literally all of it
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: based in this idea of consent being the highest absolute
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: moral authority, right? Like their appeal to what is moral
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: And this is like, what feminism does this, is, was
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: there consent? And she gave consent, and it was enthusiastic.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: In fact, she may have been the initiator of some
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: of this sexual stuff that was going on, that she's
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: now claiming is rape. And so the feminists can't, they
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: don't have a leg to stand on in that case,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: so they have to try and twist it. And I
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: guess what my issue is, is it seems to me
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: that the idea of, That we can just have consent
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: as the sole element that makes something right or wrong
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: without any other considerations for something that could be moral.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: And look, I'm not saying the men in this story
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: did anything wrong. I mean, they didn't do anything illegal.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I'll put it that way. I don't think it was good.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: And that's for... moral reasons. I don't think that they
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: should be, their lives shouldn't be ruined by this. They
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: shouldn't have been expelled. None of that. I mean, like,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you know, they have personal stuff to work through probably,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: but I wouldn't want anyone to see jail time for this.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Cause I don't think that it was that serious. But
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: the issue is, is that we are living in a
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: time where we have abandoned any sort of like, um,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: moral clarity that should tell you You know, I don't
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: think that's a good idea, regardless of whether or not
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: it's legal, regardless of whether or not I could get
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: accused of rape later, because I know that that's like
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: a more pragmatic way. It's like, well, I don't want
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: to do that because she could turn around and do
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: this to me. But rather to be like, this is
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: probably not good for me to do at all, and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't do it. But that's not even on
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: the mind, especially not of this girl. She's like, well,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: if I get consent, all bets are off, right? So
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: the problem with this is... consent itself as the only
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: measure is the problem because you can't measure it, it's
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: very arbitrary, and we're living in a time now where
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: men's consent doesn't matter, only women's consent, and even when
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: they give consent, that can be thrown out if enough
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: people think that actually you didn't give consent because we
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: said so. So we can't operate A legal system, a
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: civil system, an education system, we can't do that on
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: consent alone. There has to be some kind of, you
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: can't go into every interaction with like, well, as long
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: as no one is getting hurt, I can do whatever
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I want. That's how this happened. So like, I'm saying
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: that I don't, first of all, I don't know that
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: women can logically give consent to anything. They don't seem
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: to be able to be that way. They seem to
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: act like children. which means that we should treat them
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: like children. I'm sorry for any ladies that don't, you know,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: that are not one of these women, but it's just
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: like you're operating on a different reality. And so this
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: is going to be turned into a political weapon against
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: not just these men, most of which didn't do anything
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: from what I know. I think it was just a
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: few guys, but there were guys that were there and
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: then there were the men that were in the group chat.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing, like this is going to, they're
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: going to, They're doxing not just these men, but they're
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: calling for consequences on every man who was there, whether
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: they participated in this act or not. whether they were
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: in the group chat or not, just because they allowed
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: it to happen. That's how it's being framed. And again,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: this is the problem. The problem is that we are
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: trying to apply something that just comes from a liberal
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: worldview of like, well, do whatever you want as long
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: as it doesn't hurt anyone. And that's not working because
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: women don't operate that way. It doesn't seem to be
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: the case. So we have to start thinking about whether
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: or not something is simply consensual is enough to protect someone.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I just don't think it is. Like there's no, because
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: consent itself doesn't have a moral epistemology attached to it.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: It's simply, do you choose, you know? And I think
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: that's why we're getting into, well, not me, but like
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: people are finding themselves in so many problems. Even the men,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: like Hannah said, you know, like these people were being dumb,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: but these boys, they probably were like, well, as long
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: as she gives consent, it's cool. And that's, and that
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: was good enough.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Because that's what liberalism taught them. It teaches them that
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: consent is fine as long as everyone agrees. If no
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: one's being hurt, it's okay. And that's a problem because it's, it's,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the effects of that are not going to be felt
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: right away. And in her case, it wasn't, right? She
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: learned later that, you know, she was like, well, I
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: guess I am kind of a slut. And here's the thing.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: She's probably not going to have an easy time finding
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: a man that's going to be good for her to
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: commit to her because of the way she acts. So
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: she is suffering. It's just not immediate. And this is because, again,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: there needs to be a moral foundation. You can't just
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: have consent in a vacuum. There has to be other
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: things that we take into consideration and we haven't done that.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: So I think this is why we are going to
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: continue to have this problem. As long as everyone thinks that,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: you know, we're free beings and we should be able
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: to do whatever we want. And as long as no
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: one's getting hurt, there shouldn't be consequences, but there will
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: be because you're not actually able to do whatever you want.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: That's just not the way the world works. So, um, yeah,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a shame, but those are my thoughts
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: on that. And, uh, uh, I think that women are
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: demonstrating that they're not men. And that's the thing. Feminists
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: wanted women to believe that they were the same as
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: men and therefore can do all the things that men do.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: But the things that women are doing, like this woman
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: who claims to be a feminist that is sexually liberated,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: even the things that she is doing, men won't do.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Most men wouldn't do that either. So, like, where does
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: she get this from? Anyway. I don't want to drag
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: this out too long. So let me just let me
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: know what you guys think about this. I'm going to
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: look at I see you guys send a bunch of
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: super chats and stuff. So I'll read through those and
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: then we'll move on to the next story, which is
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: related to this one. But I just that's what I've
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: been thinking about. I've been thinking about for days and
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I just don't I just I just this is why
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not libertarian anymore, because libertarianism is built on the
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: same idea of do whatever you want. As long as
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: nobody's getting hurt, it's fine. And you just don't care
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: about other people in your community. And I just don't
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: think you can live that way. And it's just not realistic.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: People don't work like that, you know? Anyway, so Master
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Goa gives us $ 5. This was before we did the stories.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: And he said, Zillion on the Sega Master System has
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: amazing music. Zillion's anime spawned the creation of legendary anime
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: studio production IG and I love Wonder Boy 3. Thank
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: you for that. I don't know if Mike wants to
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: say anything to that really quick.
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: Thank you for the levity.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The levity. Yeah.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: This was getting heavy for a second. I could get
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: in my master system, boy.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's, it's not, it's, it's really not a
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: big deal. We just have to like, have a sense of, um,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: honor and, and like a knowledge of right and wrong and,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: and see that it doesn't necessarily have to bleed into
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: legal or illegal. And this is the problem where, we're
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: running into.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: When you really think about it, this kind of situation
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: is why Coverture existed. Yeah. All of the various laws
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: and policies that became the net, the safety net that
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: protected between the rest of the family and government that
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: made men that safety net and gave them authority Because
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: they had the power. To be that safety net. Those
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: were all. Deemed necessary. Over time. Because women pulled stupid shit.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: And then blamed the nearest man. That's why that happened.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Well yeah. And even sororities used to. They used to
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: be a check against that. They used to. Protect women.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: But also help them understand how to be women.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: If women don't want to return. to a time when
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: men just didn't trust women to be adults and had
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: a network of law and policy to make men responsible
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: for women and give men authority over women in order
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: to uphold that responsibility, then women are going to have
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: to start taking responsibility for themselves. And that means teaching
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: your daughters to take responsibility for themselves, not teaching them
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: that they're girl bosses and they can do anything they
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: want And that nobody can tell them no. And, you know,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: it can start with things like when your daughter gets
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: sent home from school for dressing inappropriately, instead of going
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: back and raising holy hell at the school, how dare
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: somebody tell her how to dress? Send her to school
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: in better clothes. Teach her how to dress for a
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: professional environment and make it her first lesson. And dressing
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: for the job you want instead of for the job
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: that some chick on a street corner has. Yeah. When
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: women are accountable for that, then they start learning to
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: take accountability for themselves and their behavior.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: Women were never oppressed. They were protected.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Feminism just created this myth that protection is oppression. Men
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: were never protected. Never. And they're still not.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: No.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: But women are still protected. And so they're still complaining
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: that they're oppressed because they're protected. It's a very complicated
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: state of affairs that we've been attempting to describe to
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: you over the last 13 years or so.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: You haven't got it by now. Fuck you.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm not even sure that consent
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: matters to women at this point, but All right, Richard
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Biaire gives us $ 5 and says, I recall seeing advertisements
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: for ketamine as a form of psychotherapy prescribed online and
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: sent through the mail. Apparently, they claim that disassociating and
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: having a hallucinogenic experience to some guided meditation recording is
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: therapeutic somehow. Well, the men, look, when it comes to
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: like who was on drugs, who was drunk, everybody was.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: And again, you know, they probably all thought, well, we're
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: all consenting, so this is okay. And it's not okay.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: And that's why I'm saying, I think that we should
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: call into question whether or not consent alone is in
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: any way good enough for anybody. All right. Meredith G
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: gives us $ 10 and says, HBR News 572, honey for
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the badgers. So let's be clear. If you engage in
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: property damage, throwing punches or or vehicular homicide with alcohol
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: or drugs in your system, you are accountable for your actions,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: unless it can be determined that you were slipped a
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: drug or you were actually unconscious at the time of
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: said crimes. The same applies to sexual activity and assault.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Being blacked out means you don't remember. It doesn't mean
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: you didn't consent. Women are increasingly afraid of being drugged,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: so they're going to get tested when they are drunk
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: after only one or two glasses of wine, and about
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: 2% were drugged. The rest were mixing alcohol with their antidepressants.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: All that we are getting to is that women should
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: not be held accountable for anything and should be treated
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: like the children they behave like. I'm Gen X and
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I watched my female classmates pregame before going to fraternity
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: row to party and they all knew that they were
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: doing what they were doing. That they were going to
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: do silence their inner inhibitions and nerves. They did it,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: so have fun. This is all bullshit. Yeah.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: This is a can of worms we do not have
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: time to get into. The vast majority of times that
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: women claim to have been spiked, they were not. They
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: just drank too much. This is inspiring you all to
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: say yes. Fuck this. And yeah, we could talk about
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: this for hours. We should not. Yeah.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: They have a lower alcohol tolerance than men, obviously. So
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: they're going to get drunk easier. And again, again, women
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: are not men. And feminism wants to say that they
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: are the same. So this is the problem. Master Goa
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: gives us five dollars and says Cornell seven reminds me
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: of how Roe just wanted an abortion for herself, but
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: was used by her lawyers to make abortion mainstream. she
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: became anti-abortion. Yes. Yes. She admitted that she lied about
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: the whole story. And yet it still took us like
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: 50 years to overturn Roe v. Wade, even though all
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the information was there. And it was simply because women
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: just wanted to kill their babies. Roboto gives us a
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: dollar and says, this issue seems like a beef with
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: the fraternity as the fraternity is a central point in
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: the college environment or a lot.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: So they that's the the fraternity head or the leader
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: the man in charge the young man in charge um
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: he was the one who basically said she's not coming
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: to the halloween party because he was afraid she was
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: going to bring them problems and that was enough to
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: make her angry and that's why she made the allegations
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: it was basically to get back at them and this
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: is what i'm saying when i say you know i
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: don't think she's a special case guys like i don't
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: think she is i think that That vindictive women, especially
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: young ones, they know that they can do things like this.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: And so they will. And so this is the thing.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: There are no consequences for these things. So why wouldn't
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: they do it? And that's why we have to talk about,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: we have to think about how we view this whole
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: idea of do as thou wilt. as long as it
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: doesn't hurt anyone, because obviously it will. Like, these guys
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: are probably not, because this is not a criminal case,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: because again, the criminal case would require a much higher
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: standard of evidence, and there's no way they're going to
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: get convicted on that, which is why this is being
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: treated as a big civil case, and the media and
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: the politicians are circling it because they find it useful,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: you know, for whatever their whole agenda is. They don't
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: really give a shit about what happened here, but these
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: seven guys who have been named, and there's probably more
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: than them, they're all going to be looking over their
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: shoulders probably for the rest of their lives like Brock Turner.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: And it's because this woman, this, this, this girl was so, um,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: you know, vindictive and also careless and she's probably going
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: to be fine. I mean, I don't know if there's
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: going to be any like decent men that are going
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: to want to wife somebody like that up, but She
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: is a woman with a pulse. Yeah, I know. Well,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, decent men. But I mean, yeah, there might be.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: You'd be surprised.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Sure. No, I don't think I would. But my point is,
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: she may feel consequences for this, probably. But I think
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: these guys are going to be feeling consequences that are undeserved.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: And it's going to be a long time. And you
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: can see that in the way that the protesters and
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: these other people virtue signaling are talking about it. And
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: what really is funny to me is that none of
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: this surprises me because we've been doing this on this
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: channel for so long. And yet there are still people
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: online that are, like, shocked at, you know, at how,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I guess, this woman is being believed and listened to.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, yeah. Like, you didn't... Why are
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: you surprised? But anyway. So those are... That's basically my
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: thoughts on that. Yeah, Mattress Girl, same thing. Emma Sulkowicz, her...
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: lover or whatever. Nobody believes him. He didn't really even
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: get a chance to say his piece on it. We
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: just assume he's guilty even though she was just being
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: a slut. Just like this woman. And you know what?
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: It's fine. You can be a slut if you want to.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: But the problem is, again, feminists have said it's okay
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: to be a slut. You should embrace that. You should
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: be proud of it. But also, when you do something
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: like this, they have nothing. It's just like, well, man,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: we want to accuse these guys of rape, but we
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: can't shame you because... You're actually doing the thing that
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: we want you to do. It's shocking. You have to
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: do that with men. How do we deal with this?
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. It's a problem. But anyway, we're
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: going to move on to the next story. Let us
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: know what you guys think about this one in the comments.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: So speaking of this case, we're going to talk about
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Kathy Hochul. So on October 2nd, the same day she
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: handed the Cornell case to Letitia James, Governor Kathy Hochul said,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: she would work with the legislature to close New York's
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: voluntary intoxication loophole, declaring that, quote, if someone is too
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: intoxicated to consent, it should not matter whether they chose
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: to use drugs or alcohol, and that, quote, voluntary intoxication
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: is not a license for sexual assault or gang rape,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: end quote. Again, this was not a gang rape. This
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: was an orgy. Under current law, someone who willingly drinks
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: or takes drugs is not mentally incapacitated unless the substance
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: was given without consent. Prosecutors generally need physical helplessness, such
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: as unconsciousness or an inability to communicate. And the district
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: attorney cited that standard in declining charges on Jane Doe's
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: 2024 statement. The bill Hochul is now backing would let
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: prosecutors charge third-degree rape when a voluntarily intoxicated person could
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: not control their conduct and the other party reasonably should
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: have known it. Again, you can't measure that. easily, which
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: in practice shifts the legal burden off the person who
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: chose to get drunk or high and onto whoever had
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: sex with them. Versions of that bill have passed the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Senate repeatedly since 2019, including a 60 to zero in
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: June of 2026, and then died in the assembly where
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: speaker Carl, uh, Heasty says his conference still lacks the
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: votes and has parked the issue in a working group
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: aimed at the 2027 session. Pocal, uh, is up for
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: re-election next month. The change would not apply retroactively to Cornell,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: and her announcement is almost entirely a campaign signal. Real
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: passage is uncertain, delayed at best, and dependent on Assembly
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Democrats who have blocked it for years. So, I think
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: that ultimately, she's not really trying to get this law passed.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: This is another political move. It's a virtue signal to
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: the base, to women in particular. So she can say, well,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I'm going to pass this thing because obviously this loophole
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: would only apply to women who are drunk, not men.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: That's already the thing, by the way, like there, there's
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: like signs out there to say, you know, it shows
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: a young man and a young woman and they're drinking.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: And it basically says if he's drunk, He's still the rapist.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: If she's drunk, she's the victim, right? So that's already
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: a thing that people's general bias is already leaning towards.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: The loophole would just put it into law. But I
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: don't think she's doing it. It may get passed. I'm
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: not saying it won't. But I don't think she's doing
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: it because she cares about the victim at Cornell. I
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: think she's doing it to score votes with women. Because
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: if she makes this the entire issue for the whole
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: month of October leading up to the election in November,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: then she'll basically secure her seat because she can say,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I am the woman's advocate. And the women, if they're
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: really stupid, and a lot of them are, they'll vote
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: for her because they want to feel safe even though
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: they're not the ones in danger because they're not planning
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: on snorting ketamine off of a guy's dick. But nonetheless,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: that's what she's doing it for. It's basically to virtue signal,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: and get votes. And I think Letitia James is doing
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: it for the exact same reasons. It's completely a PR thing. Again,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it won't pass. I'm saying that that's likely,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: and I think it's for certain in my opinion, that's
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: the reason for this. And the best part about it is, guys,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if she wins or not. Because if
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: it passes, then she gets to take credit For this
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: thing that probably shouldn't exist. It's this death of due process.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: And the women will love her for it. And if
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: she fails. Then she gets to blame patriarchy for her failure.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: And the women will love her for it. So it's
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: like it's a win-win. You know in her case. So anyway.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Those are my thoughts on that. I will give up
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: the floor.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: This is already covered. When it comes to minors.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: A minor cannot meaningfully consent to sex with an adult
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: any more than a minor can meaningfully consent to accepting
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: intoxication from an adult. That's where we draw the line.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: It is always where we have drawn the line. One
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: is a crime. The other is a crime. Both at
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: the same time is a gestalt concatenation of crimes. It
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: looks like what Ms. Hochul is doing is proposing that
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: the law should treat adults like minors. And let's not
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: pretend for a moment that this will ever manifest in
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: a one-tier system. Whatever the law says in theory to
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: the letter, that is not how it will be enforced
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: in practice, in the spirit of the law. You'll all
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: have seen that infamous poster. Jake was drunk. Josie was drunk.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: They had sex. Josie could not consent. The next day,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: Jake was arrested for rape. Whatever it was. As far
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: as I know, it was never enshrined in law that
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: men are officially adults at any age and women are
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: officially children at any age. but that is how it
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: plays out in practice because we don't actually live under
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: the rule of law we live under the rule of
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: feminism I suppose the Duluth model is actually technically kind
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: of enshrined legal guidelines but you don't have to live
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: in Duluth for it to be the case you don't
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: even have to live in Minnesota or even In the USA.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: It's all over Europe as well, despite no legislation ever
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: enshrining it. It doesn't matter if the woman is the
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: primary aggressor. We're going to arrest the man anyway. Because
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: women's rights are humans' rights. Men's rights are not. Human rights.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Men's rights is just a hate group. And anyone who
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: advocates for men's rights is just a misogynist. The more
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: we allow feminists to infest our police force, the more
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: they will simply reject your reality and substitute their own.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: And that's how it's going to play out. A woman
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: could have sex with a teenage boy having slipped teeth.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: 12 fluid ounces of GHB into his drink. But if
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: she voluntarily drank half a pint of Shandy in the meantime,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: she's the rape victim. Tell me I'm exaggerating. Go on,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: I dare you. I double dare you, motherfucker. Sorry, I
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: thought I had more. I don't. I don't have more.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, that's enough.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I have something weird.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Go on.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Years ago, several states in the Union had a different
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: drinking age for women than they had for men. And
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: based on the behavior that women engage in today, you
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: would think that it was men can get alcohol at
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: a younger age than women, right? But that's not That's
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: not the case. Typically, it was women who could drink
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: at a younger age under the belief that they matured
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: faster and could handle it better. Because the behavior of
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: women was much more conservative and demure than it is today.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: And that was the culture. That was what mothers taught
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: their daughters. Women were taught to be careful what they
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: did because it could ruin their reputation. The baby boomer
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: generation decided that was bullshit and what women do shouldn't
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: affect their reputation. Which is really weird because everything men
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: do affects their reputations. But women are supposed to be
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: exempt from that, according to boomer feminists. In the meantime,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: there were lawsuits in the alcohol ages. The legal ages
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: for alcohol evened out. For a while, everybody could get
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: alcohol when they were 18, and eventually it raised up
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: to 21. Now you have to be 21 to be
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: legally able to drink. I just find it fascinating that
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: there was a time when women were allowed to drink
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: at an earlier age than men in some places because
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: it was believed that they could be more responsible while
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: intoxicated or that they would drink less and remain responsible.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: While men are or were Deemed more vulnerable. To the substance.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: And had to have some age. And maturity under their belt.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Before they were allowed to wrestle with it. Now we
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: live in a time. Where women are children. And alcohol.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Alcohol.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Turns them into completely incapacitated, helpless, drooling idiots who can't
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: make their own decisions. Did she consent to wear that
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: lipstick color? Did she consent to go to the bathroom?
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Maybe we're in the timeline where women shouldn't be allowed
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: to drink at all. Maybe alcohol should only be legal
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: for men.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I said what I wanted to say about
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: this one. So are you guys done? Anybody else want
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: to say anything about this?
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: That's really all I wanted to say about this. It's
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: not going to hurt me any. I already gave up
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: drinking to try to get more time out of my
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: kidneys than my genetics wants to give me. Well, it's
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: mainly going.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: To affect young people. That basically use alcohol to.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't drink when I was young either, so.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: That's kind of funny.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Loosen their lips, so to speak.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: Honestly, it's really a stupid thing. When it comes down
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: to it, women are only providing more and more arguments
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: why privileges that they think are rights should be taken
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: away just from women. Because women clearly can't handle them.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: It really doesn't look that way.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: Um....
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: I think that we may get to a point where
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: men have to steward women. Okay, but let us know
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: what you guys think about this one in the comments.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: My issue is not a lot to do with Jane
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Doe herself because I think that she's just using the
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: tools that already exist for women to use. So you
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: almost can't blame her for that. But rather, everyone around
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: her that supports all those systems that allow this to
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: happen and even encourage them.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: These women get pissed off if you expect them to
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: use the tools that are available to them. And the
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: tools keep increasing, by the way. The tools that are
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: available to them to not get pregnant out of wedlock, right?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: But they are very well versed in using the tools
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: that are available to them to ruin a man's life
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: because they're mad or embarrassed or even just because they
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: want some attention.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: Well, anyway, let us know what you guys think about
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: this one in the comments. We're going to move on
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: to the next story. All right. So this one's crazy.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: It's like the Highlander for women. After surviving not one
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: but two supposedly lethal doses of pentobarbital, death row inmate
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: and convicted murderer Krista Pike has survived. In January of 1995,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: Pike took part in the gruesome slaying of Colleen Slemmer,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: a fellow student at the Florida-based Job Corps training campus.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Pike convinced herself that Slemmer was trying to steal her boyfriend,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: another student at the campus named Taderell Ship, and hatched
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: a plan to kill her. Pike and Ship, along with
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: another friend Shadola Peterson, Lord Slemmer out in the woods
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: to an abandoned steam plant under the guise of offering
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: her marijuana. There, she was visually attacked by Pike and Shipp,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: while Peterson acted as a lookout. For 30 minutes, Pike
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: and Shipp taunted, slashed, beat, and stabbed Slemmer. They used
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: a box cutter to carve a pentagram into her chest
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: and a meat cleaver to slash open her stomach. In total,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: she was slashed and stabbed hundreds of times. When Slemmer
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: was noticed to still be alive, after all that, Pike
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: used a large chunk of asphalt to repeatedly smash her skull,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: which finally killed her. Before leaving, Pike would remove a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: chunk of Slemmer's skull to keep as a souvenir. In
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: less than 36 hours, all three were arrested for Slemmer's murder,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: due in no small part to Pike's incessant boasting about
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: the crime and displaying of the skull fragment. Eventually, Peterson,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: who turned state's witness, pled guilty, and received probation. Shipp
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: was found guilty of both first-degree murder and conspiracy to
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: commit murder, but was spared the death penalty due to
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: being 17 years old. Pike was also found guilty of
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: both first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder and was
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: sentenced to death. Pike's three-decade stay on death row was
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: marked by numerous failed appeals, an attempted murder of another inmate,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: and one failed escape attempt. Finally, her time was scheduled
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: to end on September 30th. After the first lethal dose
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: of drugs, Pike smiled and laughed, noting that her arm
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: felt like it was burning. As her protocol, another dose
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: of drugs was administered with onlookers noting that she didn't
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: lose consciousness. An hour later, her lawyer argued that she
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: needed immediate medical care since no protocol existed for when
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: a death row inmate survives two lethal injections. Pike was
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: rushed to a nearby hospital where she lost consciousness and
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: is currently being kept alive by a ventilator. This marks
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: the second botched death by lethal injection in 2026 by
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: the state of Tennessee, both of which were conducted by
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: the same doctor who, in the previous case, failed to
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: secure a central line for the injection. Who's the doctor
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: in this case?
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: Sorry, she's what? She's being kept alive on a ventilator.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: Did I hear that right?
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: Is this something else that she.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: So they can execute her again later, probably.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: Is this something else that she requested, like having an
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: all-female execution team? Pardon my... distended duodenum, but I was
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: under the impression that the only thing a death row
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: inmate is at liberty to request is a last meal
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: or some shit. But apparently a.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: A first-class citizen... can request that her quote-unquote execution be
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: carried out by a team of other first-class citizens. Like,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: that's not an obvious dog whistle along the lines of
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: you know what to do, ladies. Load both of those
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: syringes with a saline solution and pretend you don't know
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: what the fuck happened. That's how you stick it to
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: the Second-class citizens. I mean, the man. How about let
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: her die? When male war veterans return home from war
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: and end up homeless on the street, eating rats to survive,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: the diagnosis is very often, fuck it, let them die.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: But if a sadistic fucking demon who happens to be
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: female dies, brutally butchers another woman and holds pieces of
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: her corpse aloft as a trophy, we have to keep
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: her alive for 30 years and then continue to keep
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: her alive. Am I the only one around here who
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: has heard of the emergent technology of rope? You don't
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: even need to build fucking gallows or anything. Just take
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: her to a cliff face Tie a fucking rope around
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: her neck and push her off. It'll cost a couple
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: of dollars of rope and the calories it takes to
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: push her off the cliff.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: In fact, fuck the rope.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: Just push her off the fucking cliff. Let gravity do
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: the work. And yes, I realize it's Tennessee where it
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: would be very simple just to put a bullet in
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: her forehead. You don't even need a firing squad. The
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: whole point of a firing squad is that you've got
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: 12 people each firing a bullet. That way, no one
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: can know which of those 12 people was actually the executioner.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: And they can all go home safe in the knowledge
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: that there's only a 1 in 12 chance that they
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: actually killed someone. That's a humane way to do it
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: when it comes to the psychological well-being of the executioners.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: This is not a problem that is solved by swapping
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: a firing squad for a lethal injection. Whosoever administers the
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: lethal injection knows for a fact that they are the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: one who has taken a life. So, like, why are
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: we doing this? Lethal chemicals cost money. They need to
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: be painstakingly synthesized To make sure they work properly. And
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: apparently they still don't work properly. You don't even need
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: a firing squad. You need one bullet. I don't think
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: you'll struggle to find someone. Who is willing to fire
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: that bullet. The family members. Of the victims. Is a
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: large pool. Of potential suitors. And no one has to know.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: Which of them stepped up to pull the trigger. And.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: Like I said, you don't even need to waste them.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: money it takes to manufacture a fucking bullet or even
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: a fucking rope just push her off a cliff push
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: her off a fucking building anything would be cheaper and
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: easier than this clown show of just trusting a committee
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: of feminists To properly administer a lethal injection. Or two. Apparently.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: You can just trust them. To kill all of their children.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: With nothing but an elastic fucking band. But somehow you
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: can't trust them. To kill their fellow adult women. With
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: a serum. That's been biochemically designed. To kill people. Or even.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Two.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Two. Of such injections. Maybe you should have just asked
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: Anthony fucking Fauci. Or anyone in the Canadian medical profession.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: Or maybe. If someone is convicted beyond reasonable doubt of
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: killing someone. Sadistically and remorselessly. Then maybe it doesn't matter
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: how sadistically and remorselessly you kill them. Maybe the reason
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: there are so many women out there sadistically and remorselessly
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: killing not just their fellow adults, but their own fucking
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: children is because they know they will get away with it.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: Maybe if you made it clear, publicly and ruthlessly clear,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: that if you commit a sadistic and ruthless crime, you
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: will die slowly and painfully. Maybe that might act as
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: a deterrent. That's what we did for pretty much all
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: of human history. I mean, it might not work against
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: men because men are individualistic. Certain men with certain mental
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: conditions will not adhere to any such conditions. Nevertheless, they
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: too should have pain inflicted on them too, if only
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: for the sake of retributive justice. But women are a
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: little bit different. Women will adhere to consensus in ways
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: men will not, sort of depending on the bell curve.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: So if... We instill women with the consensus that if
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: you inflict pain, pain will be inflicted on you. We
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: could very well prevent countless incidents of pain and murder.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: But we're not doing that. We're instilling women with the
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 3: consensus that if they inflict pain and death, they will
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: be excused. And they won't even be killed. Even when
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: they are supposed to be killed. So yeah, I'm finally
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: going to say what all these feminists have been begging
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 3: me to say for all these years. Yes, women should
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 3: be killed. Swiftly. Brutally. And without remorse. Dr. Randall McCamp-Munson News.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: All right, Hannah.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: So I have to start with a disclaimer because there
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: are people who know me and know everything I've said
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: in the past and it's going to sound hypocritical if
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: I don't. I've always been I shouldn't say always because
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: it's been for most of my adult life I have
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: been very strongly against the death penalty. And I still am.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: I still think that it is something that I don't
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: trust the government with it. I still think it's something
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: that should, it should be very rarely used and only
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: the worst of cases and only in circumstances where the
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: idea of the individual possibly getting free is terrifying because
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: they have the kind of behavior and attitude that, you know,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: sounds like they would do it again and again and again.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: And so it should be reserved, if it's used at all,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: for cases of extremely brutal killings and when the person
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: tries to escape. Well, this fits both of those, right?
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think the government should have this power, and
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think the government should get to turn around
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: and say, well, we fucked up, now you get to
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: get out of punishment because we couldn't punish you correctly
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: just because this is a woman. And I don't think
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: people would be having any sympathy at all for this case.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think people would be arguing whether or not
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: she should live if she were a he. I think
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: if her name was Christopher and she had an outie
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: instead of an innie, I think all we'd be hearing about,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: especially if the victim was the sex the victim is,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: that all we would be hearing about was this poor,
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: innocent woman who was brutally murdered by this terrible, remorseless
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: man Who killed again. In the system. And tried to escape.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: Was is so dangerous. That he could get out and
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: do it again. That's all we would be hearing. We
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: would not be hearing a damn word.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: About.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: Whether or not it's humane. He certainly wouldn't have been
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: able to request an all-male. Execution squad. There wouldn't have
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: been any.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: Bullshit.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: Going on there would have just been a simple run
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: of the mill here's how we're going to do things
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: and by the way if there was a fuck up
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: it would have just given him a painful death because
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: that is what happens most of the time when there
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: is a fuck up when a man is being put
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: to death there have been men who have been tortured
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: to death with the paralytic not working, but the heart-stopping
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: medication working when they've been executed. Before the lethal injection,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: there were men who were set on fire by the
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: machine that was used to shock them to death. The
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: electric chair had all kinds of fuck-ups that could happen.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it took more shocks than expected. Sometimes it took
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Longer shocks or higher voltage. There were different things that
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: could go wrong. And when something went wrong. It was
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: intensely painful. For the person being executed. Normally a man.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: So as much as I have sympathy for any human being.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: Who has to go through this. No matter what they did.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: And no matter how difficult. Scary they are. I think
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: that it is absolutely heinous that we have to talk
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: about whether or not this woman's execution should be put
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: on hold. I think it is absolutely heinous that because
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: she's female, and only because she's female, she's getting all
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: kinds of sympathy that a man in this position would
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: not have. And I think it's atrocious that the discussion
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: as to whether or not the death penalty is something
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: the government can be trusted with is put on hold
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: for this bullshit. And frankly, I don't think that if
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: they decide not to finish the job, she's ever going
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: to have a life again. This woman is going to
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: linger and die. If they put the drugs in her
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: body that are supposed to be put in her body
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: during an execution, even if she survived, the damage is
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: going to take her eventually. She's probably got permanent damage
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: to her heart. She's probably got permanent brain damage. She's
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: never going to be okay. So everybody out there thinking
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: it's all sympathetic to try to bring her back, you're wrong.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: If she's on life support, you're especially wrong.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: Wrong.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: Because if she's on life support, a lot of damage
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: has been done. And her life is never going to
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: be the same. And it should be over. One way
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: or another. But I'm just horrified that we can look
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: at somebody who committed acts that heinous and just because
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: they have different genitalia, an entirely different attitude crops up
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: with people. That's got to stop. If women can get
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: away with murder and have people thinking that it's a
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: crime to hold them accountable. If women can, in the
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: minds of the public, if women can win over enough
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: people to say women shouldn't get the death penalty, women
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: should get extra caveats when they have the death penalty,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: that they can decide who gets to kill them. Women
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: get to, you know, Women get take backs. Oh it
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: didn't work. You got to stop and don't try it again.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Then we're fucked. Because. Women can become hit men. Women
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: poison people. Women use guns. Women use knives. If female violence.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Is not viewed. With the same level. Of rejection. And opposition. And.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: And outrage. As male violence. Then our society is just.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: It's fucked. I don't think we can come back from that.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: So I hope people. I hope people can figure out.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: And accept. This woman. Needs to die. As much as
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: I am. Against the death penalty. They started a job.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: They need to finish it. And this is also just
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: further evidence that the government can't be trusted with it. Right.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: Not when women are in charge. When men are in charge,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: they just fucking hang her.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: When men are in charge, they still fuck it up.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: Even when men are in charge, they still fuck it up.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: No, just fucking hang her. Just break her fucking neck
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: with a rope. It's really easy. It's always been easy.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: They used to fuck up hangings, too. The death penalty,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: like I said, the death penalty is not something the
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: government should ever be trusted with. They fuck it up.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: They fuck it up two different ways. One of those ways,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: this isn't. The other one, it is. They either get
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: the death part wrong, where they fuck up the killing,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: or they get the guilty part wrong, which is even worse.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: Because if they get the guilty part wrong and they
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: don't fuck up the killing, then a dead person is innocent.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: And the guilty person is still living and out there
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: to commit crimes. That's not this case. Someone has to
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: be trusted. No, someone doesn't have to be trusted.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: It's either the government or it's a mob of the people.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: Nobody should be trusted.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: Not even if a woman brutally murders her children. I mean,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: someone should be trusted with justice. If it's not the
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: government and it's not a mob of the.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: People, then who? Then we just don't use the death penalty.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: And so we're just going to let this guy walk?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: We don't let them out either. We don't use the
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: death penalty. We don't let them out. There are other sentences.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: So you want life in prison instead. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: I would rather see that. Especially given how often the
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: fuck up is, we got the wrong guy. All right.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: Well, let us know what you guys think about this
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: one in the comments. You can give your thoughts on
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: the death penalty, whether or not you agree with it.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: But we're going to move on to the last story
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: because this is turning into a bit of a long sausage.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: So here we go. Oh, I did get a super
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: chat right here. Just now, right under the bar, Xeranks
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: gives us $ 5 and says, I think the real and
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: possibly reasonable fear is that her situation meets the flavor
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: for a horror figure and we're in October. Yeah. It's
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: funny because I watched the movie Death Becomes Her the
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: other day.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: It's a good movie. It's a good movie.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: It's stupid, but it's good.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And, yeah, it reminded me of that. So
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: maybe she drank the potion. All right, but anyway. So,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: men still only have condoms and vasectomies as proven options
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: for male birth control, but several experimental methods are now
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: in human trials. The furthest along is NES-T, a daily
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: shoulder gel that suppresses sperm while replacing testosterone. Earlier studies
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: drove counts near zero in most users. Non-hormonal candidates include YCT-529,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: a daily pill that interrupts sperm production, and injectable hydrogels
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: such as Plan A, Vasogel, and Atom, which block the
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: vas deferens and are meant to be reversible. A World
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: Health Organization official has said a new method could reach
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: pharmacies in three to five years. None of these have
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: been approved as of yet. There is also this birth
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: control pill, which is also supposed to make orgasms better.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: This claim belongs to PAWS pill, NLS-133, an on-demand pill
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: from Next Life Sciences. meant to relax the muscles of
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: the vas deferens so that sperm are not added to
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: the ejaculate for about a day. The company says a
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: small randomized trial stopped sperm release in every man who
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: took it within the tested window and found no drop
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: in sexual function versus placebo. Founder L.R. Fox has also said, anecdotally,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: that some men reported more pleasure. That is not a
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: published result. The study was tiny. Pleasure scores were not
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: shown to beat placebo. And a larger trial is only
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: planned for late 2026. We have another trial coming up
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: later this year. With a market date of about two years,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: that is the company's hope, not a regulatory timeline. So
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: there is more birth control options coming. For men, that is, specifically. So, Hannah,
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: you're the one who shared the story, so maybe you
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: can tell us something about it.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: This is something that I've kind of been watching this
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: in particular with Plan A, just because there are so
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: many stories out there of sperm jacking. Well, you can't
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: sperm jack if there are no sperm, right? A guy
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: who uses something like this when he is going to
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: have sex protects himself against, oh, I forgot to take
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: the pill. Oh, the spermicide didn't work. Oh, there was
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 2: a hole in the condom. Oh, I just was thinking
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: that if I got pregnant, you'd stay with me. All
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: of those situations, you'd be immune to those. So this
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: takes the power out of the woman's hand. This makes
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: it impossible for her to sperm jack you because she
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: isn't going to have access to it. So that's the
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: reason that I thought this would be some good news. Uh,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: that's the reason why I put it in. This is
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: strictly male birth control and, uh, it would change. It'd
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: be a game changer really for, for men. Um, it
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: would prevent quite a bit of, uh, manipulation by women.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: And then there's also a thing that I know happens. Um, and, and, uh,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: I've known a couple of guys that this has happened to.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: She's short in her budget, somewhere around $ 800 to $ 1, 000,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: and decides that a quick way to make that money
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: is to scare the shit out of you in regard
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: to child support and demand money for an abortion. Well,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: I could have it, And you could pay child support
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: or you can give me a thousand bucks and I'll
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: go have an abortion. As long as you're paying for
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: the abortion. And my advice has always been to guys,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: you know, don't hand over the money. Like be the
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: overly caring and concerned knight in shining armor that's going
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: to walk into the clinic with her and pay the
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: receptionist and sit with her through the procedure. Stay there,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: make sure she gets home okay and everything. Because if
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: she's faking, she won't go through all that bullshit. She'll
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: get mad at you. She'll yell and scream and have
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: a temper tantrum and scream. you with putting you on
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: child support. But she's not going to go in there
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: and actually have any kind of procedure done. But if
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: you have these options available to you, any of these options,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't have to go through that. She wouldn't be
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: able to do that. She wouldn't be able to lie
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: to you. Because you would know. That she didn't have
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: the tools. To conceive a child with you. It would
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: take that. That power right out of her hands. So.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: Personally. And we got one already. That's saying it. Wag
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: me 9778. Says abstinence is king. It's pretty close to
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: what I was going to say. You should still be
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: picky as hell about the women you're with. If she
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: can't commit to you, if she's a party girl, if
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: she's just screwing around, you shouldn't expose your body to
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: her biome, her flora, because that's nasty, honestly. So, you know,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: I just would say most guys should avoid that and
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: avoid premarital sex, avoid extramarital sex and so on. But
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 2: I also know that in reality, that's not going to happen.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: And this is your next best option. Because I know
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: those gals out with the high body counts aren't out
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: there getting them from the air. So that's basically it.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 3: I'm... No, I can't... Bear with me. You know all
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 3: these conspiracies about the oil industry that has kept down
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: the electric car for like a century? Because apparently the
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: oil industry couldn't stand the idea of electric cars muscling
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: in on their turf. But when you look into it,
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: electric cars didn't work very well. A century ago. They
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: could barely run for 20 miles without being recharged. And
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 3: there were only five stations in the world where they
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: could recharge. Also, their batteries kept blowing up, much like
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: they do to this day. And when electric car batteries
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 3: blow up, it's like a fireworks show. Electric sparks shoot
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: out of the thing like a flamethrower in all directions.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: And nothing can stop it. until it's finished. So the
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 3: conspiracy theory in that case is false. The oil industry
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: wasn't keeping the electric car down for a century. It
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: was just that the technology wasn't ready and it wouldn't
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: be ready for another century. The same cannot be said
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: for the male contraceptive industry. Much like there are dozens
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 3: of contraceptive options for women, And they have all been
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: rushed to the market at full speed, regardless of what
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 3: side effects they might have on women. There have always
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: been dozens of options for male contraceptives that have simply
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: not been funded by the good and pure government juggernauts.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: Because it is in the interests of the state that
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 3: we give reproductive rights to women. Because the state can
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 3: replace men. It is not in the interests of the
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: state to replace women because the state cannot replace women,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: not for any concrete reason, but because we live under
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: gynocentric romantic chivalry wherein women are the masters and men
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: are the slaves. It has long been within our biochemical
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: purview to provide men with contraceptive options. But that would
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 3: give power to the people by giving power to the men,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: giving exclusive reproductive options to women diverts that power to
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: the state because the state cannot replace women. Because for
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: the longest time, there was no such thing as an
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: artificial womb. Women are the vessels of reproduction. Men are
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: just the producers of sperm. The state can steal sperm.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: It cannot steal eggs. I mean, it can, but that
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: would be misogyny. The state can go ahead and steal
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: sperm because there's no such thing as misandry. And that's
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: why we are where we are now. We could have
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: had a unilateral male contraceptive decades ago, but we don't
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: because no government will fund research into such a thing
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 3: because it doesn't help the government control the people. It
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: would only help men attain reproductive rights. woe betide such
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: a thing as men having reproductive rights society would fall
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 3: apart i tells you yeah no it wouldn't society would
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: actually cohere if men had reproductive rights not just at
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: the national level but at the family level and we
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: can't possibly have that imagine if men didn't have to
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: get robbed by the government to pay women for women's
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: poor choices. Then we'd actually, we'd have actual families that
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: get together for the right reasons and stay together for
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: the right reasons. How are we supposed to impose a
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: one world government if families of even the tiniest size
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: could form On their own terms. And stay together on
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: their own terms. The horror. Human sacrifice. Dogs and cats
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: living together. Mass hysteria. It's such a... I mean, that's
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: a good place to leave it. Where are we? Shit, yeah,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: we're almost at two hours. Let's just fucking stop.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, thank you for your comments on that.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: I did get a rumble rant from Roboto. He says,
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: will feminists boycott it? Will they make the claim that
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: men cannot be trusted? Will this get swept under the
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: rug as it affects the status quo? I mean, if
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: it starts to look like it's going to pass the
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: trial stage, yes, they're going to, yes. They don't like the.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: Idea that men have any control over.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: Their own fertility.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: How will feminists boycott this? That's the question. How will
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: feminists boycott?
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: They won't boycott it.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Because if they can, if they, if they can't, if
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: there's not a way for them, they can't decide what
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: you can buy and they can't decide what you can
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: do with your own body because they've just spent the
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: last 50 years arguing that all individuals have the right
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: to decide what they're going to do with their own body.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: And if they say that men cannot be trusted, right?
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: The answer to that is very simple. Okay, that's fine.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: You don't have to trust him. You have 40 different
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: types of birth control you can choose from. Pick some
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: and use them. It's not going to make you any
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: less capable of controlling your fertility. You're not going to
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: become more fertile if you double up or triple up
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: or quadruple up on your birth control. There is nothing
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: that could possibly go wrong if she's on the pill
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: that's going to affect or be affected by his use
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: of any of these birth control methods. That's the beauty
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: of this. Feminists can come up with all the complaints
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: they want, but they can't make this a gender issue.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: This is just men having the right to do what
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: they want with their own body.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Alright, well, thank you for the rumble rant.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: There's nothing feminists can't do.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: Nothing. Yeah, I know they can't. They're gonna try. They
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: can't really do it, but.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: They're gonna try. They can whine, but they can't come
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: up with a valid reason.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't care about that. They're just gonna use force.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: They don't care about valid reasons. They don't care about logic.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: They don't care about those things. They only care about power,
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: and if they have it, they're gonna use it. So.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: That would just give away their whole hand right there.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: Because all that has to happen is them whine about
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: this and start, as soon as they start bitching and
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: whining about it the answer is to challenge it as
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: a power play yeah.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: When feminists whine it's human rights when men espouse human
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: rights it's just whining that's where we are that's what's happening.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah We still have to be strategic. We're going to
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: go into the patron show now. We're going to look
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  Speaker 1: at this article from The Guardian. If you guys want
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