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- 0:31SPEAKER_05: Hey good morning, folks.
- 0:32SPEAKER_05: Welcome to the Morning Call show on Bob Sellers here with Jerry Burke.
- 0:35SPEAKER_05: Couple news fats taking a look at the right and wrong in between the right and left.
- 0:39SPEAKER_05: Jerry, there's so much going on.
- 0:41SPEAKER_05: I know, I know.
- 0:41SPEAKER_05: I got to do that.
- 0:42SPEAKER_05: We can talk for two hours.
- 0:43SPEAKER_05: We're not going to, so people, you can still pay attention.
- 0:46SPEAKER_03: But uh I think you're I think the first story I have goes right to that phrase you just said the right and the wrong between the right and the left.
- 0:55SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 0:55SPEAKER_03: This I want to talk, I want to show you a couple of headlines describing the event of the hijacking of that Air Dubai.
- 1:04SPEAKER_03: Still on that shot, okay and how it was interpreted by the media.
- 1:09SPEAKER_03: Um so this is collected by someone on Twitter who put all these headlines together after a Muslim co-pilot stabs his pilot and tries to take down a whole plane with 180 passengers on it.
- 1:24SPEAKER_03: CNN described it as a violent altercation between two pilots caused the fly Dubai aircraft uh uh to divert to Saudi Arabia.
- 1:35SPEAKER_03: An altercation.
- 1:37SPEAKER_05: This is where was it headed?
- 1:39SPEAKER_03: It was it was going from Dubai to Tel Aviv, Ben Gurion Airport.
- 1:44SPEAKER_05: In other words, from Dubai to Israel.
- 1:47SPEAKER_03: Yes, and loaded with Israeli passengers.
- 1:51SPEAKER_05: Loaded with Israeli passengers, and uh you could look at that at least uh at first glance and say this is a terrorist attack uh and an effort to uh kill you know dozens of Jewish people and send a message.
- 2:09SPEAKER_03: But that's not how it was interpreted by the media at first, anyway.
- 2:13SPEAKER_03: The New York Times, breaking news a plane flying from Dubai to Israel was diverted after an altercation in the cockpit.
- 2:21SPEAKER_03: Um this is Agency France Presse.
- 2:24SPEAKER_03: This is uh French news agency, like their AP.
- 2:28SPEAKER_03: Yeah, two pilots, two pilots were wounded after they reportedly fought on board the air the airplane.
- 2:36SPEAKER_03: They they fought.
- 2:38SPEAKER_05: What was the source there?
- 2:38SPEAKER_05: What was that?
- 2:39SPEAKER_03: That was AFP, Agency France Presse.
- 2:43SPEAKER_03: It's uh it's the French version of AP.
- 2:46SPEAKER_03: Um, this is the Wall Street Journal.
- 2:48SPEAKER_03: Um the an air, an Israeli-bound flight made an emergency landing after an apparent struggle in the cockpit between the pilots.
- 2:57SPEAKER_05: So You know, I was watching the story the other night on the network news.
- 3:01SPEAKER_05: My wife likes to watch it, so I sit and watch it with her.
- 3:04SPEAKER_05: Yeah, even though I usually know all the stories.
- 3:06SPEAKER_05: And this one uh I kept asking uh because they were talking about uh the passengers and the the pilot who was stabbed.
- 3:15SPEAKER_05: I said, What about the guy that did it?
- 3:17SPEAKER_05: Who is he?
- 3:18SPEAKER_05: What's going on?
- 3:19SPEAKER_05: You can't tell me you can't find out the information about this.
- 3:23SPEAKER_05: What's his name?
- 3:25SPEAKER_05: There has to be some sort of record.
- 3:27SPEAKER_05: What's his name?
- 3:28SPEAKER_05: Where's he from?
- 3:29SPEAKER_05: What's his background?
- 3:31SPEAKER_05: And nothing.
- 3:33SPEAKER_05: They've said, yes, he was taken into custody.
- 3:35SPEAKER_05: That's about it.
- 3:36SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
- 3:37SPEAKER_03: So what now we know that he was from Oman.
- 3:42SPEAKER_03: Uh Benjamin Netanyahu, who said that he was radicalized over the last couple of years to become a mu uh a Muslim terrorist.
- 3:49SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 3:49SPEAKER_03: He had been flying, he'd been flying for an airline called Fly Dubai for over a year.
- 3:54SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 3:55SPEAKER_03: So this guy was like what they call a sleeper.
- 3:59SPEAKER_03: He inserted himself into a, you know, the cockpit nowadays is one of the most secure places on earth.
- 4:06SPEAKER_03: But no one accounted for the fact that maybe one of the pilots could be a terrorist.
- 4:11SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 4:12SPEAKER_05: You know?
- 4:12SPEAKER_05: No, I think that's really poorly done by the media.
- 4:17SPEAKER_05: And um, yeah, I mean, my first you're and my first inclination is okay, we get what this is.
- 4:24SPEAKER_05: Prove me wrong.
- 4:25SPEAKER_05: I mean, you have to get your facts, but yeah, right, right.
- 4:31SPEAKER_05: There's a there there, and people were.
- 4:33SPEAKER_03: Well, you know what though?
- 4:34SPEAKER_03: I remember the other day um I was listening to Fox, and I think I told you during our podcast here that John Roberts had said he heard there was a beef in the cockpit that the two pilots had just gotten into an argument with each other that got out of hand.
- 4:52SPEAKER_05: By the way, are co-pilots in the U.S.
- 4:54SPEAKER_05: allowed to carry knives?
- 4:55SPEAKER_05: I mean, maybe they are, but I don't know.
- 4:57SPEAKER_03: Well, you know what?
- 4:58SPEAKER_03: All you have to do was go out to the galley and get a knife, you know?
- 5:02SPEAKER_03: I mean, they they frisk you, they search you, they and then they give you cutlery when you get on board, you know?
- 5:09SPEAKER_05: Yes, that you can take home.
- 5:12SPEAKER_05: And often do.
- 5:14SPEAKER_05: Let me uh point out another place um that they the media is getting it wrong.
- 5:20SPEAKER_05: Uh completely different kind of story.
- 5:22SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna not make it lighter, but certainly not a terrorist attack.
- 5:27SPEAKER_05: But there's this story, uh, Republican Senate candidate in deep blue state is striking distance of major upset.
- 5:34SPEAKER_05: Recent poll showed.
- 5:35SPEAKER_05: Now, that deep blue state is Minnesota.
- 5:38SPEAKER_05: Now, we all think of Minnesota as Walter Mondale territory, as uh uh, you know, what's uh the wimpy guy?
- 5:49SPEAKER_05: Hubert Humphrey.
- 5:50SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Hubert Humphrey, all these very however I know enough about Minnesota uh professionally and personally to know it's not a deep blue state.
- 6:04SPEAKER_05: Now you may question that, but I brought receipts, as they say, Jerry.
- 6:09SPEAKER_05: Let me show you what the Congress, the legislature is like in Minnesota.
- 6:15SPEAKER_05: Um take a look at this.
- 6:18SPEAKER_05: The House of Representatives is a split 6767.
- 6:24SPEAKER_03: That's pretty clear.
- 6:25SPEAKER_05: Let me show you the Senate, the state senate, 3433.
- 6:31SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it literally doesn't get any more split than that.
- 6:34SPEAKER_04: No, right?
- 6:35SPEAKER_05: So the ignorance of whoever put up that um headline.
- 6:40SPEAKER_03: Yeah, can I see the headline again?
- 6:43SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 6:45SPEAKER_03: That's media, I see.
- 6:49SPEAKER_05: Yeah, now they probably based it on a story they saw somewhere else.
- 6:53SPEAKER_05: But I think that's generally accepted from people that, oh, you know, Minnesota, it's it's blue.
- 6:59SPEAKER_05: No, I got news for you.
- 7:01SPEAKER_05: Especially like so many other countries or country, uh states, is once you get outside the major uh areas, the major urban uh areas, it becomes more more conservative.
- 7:13SPEAKER_05: So again, let me remind people here is the Senate of Minnesota.
- 7:19SPEAKER_03: But look at the party.
- 7:20SPEAKER_03: It says it's the Democratic Farmer Labor Party.
- 7:24SPEAKER_03: I never never heard of that.
- 7:26SPEAKER_05: Well, um, maybe that's thrown in there.
- 7:29SPEAKER_05: You know, there are people who identify, I mean, or um it's like Bernie Sanders uh caucuses with the Democrats, right?
- 7:37SPEAKER_05: He's a socialist.
- 7:39SPEAKER_05: Uh but I just that that's another example of how the media gets it wrong.
- 7:45SPEAKER_05: Can I can I point out this that bothers me a little bit?
- 7:48SPEAKER_05: Yeah, the story from Cornell.
- 7:50SPEAKER_05: Now we've got Kathy Hope, the governor of New York, uh, putting Letitia James on this story.
- 7:56SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 7:56SPEAKER_05: Now, I think let's talk about this politically.
- 8:00SPEAKER_05: Okay, I get it.
- 8:01SPEAKER_05: Here's what you're gonna do you're gonna try to appeal to all the women that feel like the system is not right, that this girl didn't get her day in court literally or otherwise, and you're gonna put Letitia James on it.
- 8:14SPEAKER_05: Now, that's the part, especially where I think this may backfire on you.
- 8:20SPEAKER_05: Because Letitia James, for those that don't remember, and Jerry, you know I'm not a huge fan of Donald Trump.
- 8:27SPEAKER_05: I think there are a lot of problems with him.
- 8:29SPEAKER_05: Yeah, however, I will say this that was the most politically motivated case.
- 8:36SPEAKER_05: The one against him for uh committing business fraud.
- 8:43SPEAKER_05: I believe he did commit fraud.
- 8:45SPEAKER_05: There are a lot of things that say misrepresented financially, but you know what the penalty was?
- 8:50SPEAKER_05: It was like over 450 million dollars.
- 8:54SPEAKER_05: It's like, really?
- 8:56SPEAKER_05: I mean, you tell the guy don't misrepresent, you gotta be uh fair, you know, 30 million dollars, and we'll call it even.
- 9:03SPEAKER_05: No.
- 9:03SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 9:04SPEAKER_05: She campaigned to probably half a billion, half a billion dollars.
- 9:08SPEAKER_05: Yes, and half a billion dollars.
- 9:10SPEAKER_05: And again, you know, I'm not a big Trump fan, but I try to be fair in these things, and that was politically motivated.
- 9:16SPEAKER_05: So once again, here you go.
- 9:19SPEAKER_05: This is going to be a politically charged endeavor, and I have a feeling that this is gonna last through the election.
- 9:28SPEAKER_05: They'll get next year into the legislature and try to change some bills somehow.
- 9:33SPEAKER_03: I swear to God, uh, they're gonna try to blame Donald Trump for raping that girl.
- 9:37SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's the that's where we're at.
- 9:40SPEAKER_05: Well, I don't want to go that far.
- 9:41SPEAKER_05: I will say this.
- 9:43SPEAKER_05: Um, there is reason to believe that she signed statements attributed to her immediately after this thing happened.
- 9:53SPEAKER_05: And I'm not, you know, I'm not saying she didn't do anything wrong and contribute to this.
- 10:00SPEAKER_05: Uh, she did.
- 10:01SPEAKER_05: You and I have daughters, we definitely would tell them, uh, look, you don't act like this, you don't put yourself in this vulnerable position.
- 10:09SPEAKER_05: Having said that, yeah, there's some young men here who were not acting like good young men, I would say.
- 10:16SPEAKER_03: No, no, but but I gotta tell you, I've been reading more uh text.
- 10:22SPEAKER_03: She admitted, and she's kind of laughing about it, that the boys were joking with her that they had an eight sum, an eight sum, seven boys and her, and that she admitted that she was snorting ketamine off one of the boys' penis.
- 10:37SPEAKER_05: Yes, off the private cards.
- 10:39SPEAKER_05: Come on, Jerry.
- 10:39SPEAKER_05: That's let's let's and and yes, and and that's why reopening this two years later, it when when we first saw this, it's like, oh my god, that's terrible.
- 10:52SPEAKER_05: Why'd they cover this up?
- 10:53SPEAKER_05: And then when you dig into it, it's like, well, wait a minute, that's kind of uh the other part of the story.
- 10:59SPEAKER_05: And then you can almost understand, okay, there it's not like there are any heroes here, but that doesn't yeah, that would be a difficult.
- 11:08SPEAKER_05: Can you get in front of a jury and convict people?
- 11:12SPEAKER_03: I remember my my mind has kind of evolved over the years.
- 11:16SPEAKER_03: So I remember when the Duke's uh university story broke.
- 11:20SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and Neil Cavuto, I remember he came out very strongly in favor of the boys and was really going after the girl who turned out to be a prostitute, she was a drug addict, blah, on and on and on.
- 11:36SPEAKER_03: Misrepresenting what happened.
- 11:38SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but what what it came down to was you know, it's hard to avoid the fact like, are you saying that the boys' future are worth more than this woman's dignity?
- 11:48SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 11:49SPEAKER_05: You know?
- 11:49SPEAKER_05: Well, there was also an incident at UVA which was misrepresented, and it got a lot of headlines, and then it turned out, oh, that's not quite true.
- 11:58SPEAKER_05: And again, this is why I think the Democrats need to be careful.
- 12:02SPEAKER_05: This can backfire on them.
- 12:04SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 12:05SPEAKER_05: Because I guarantee you, Republicans who don't like Letitia James are gonna plaster her face all over the place.
- 12:12SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I know.
- 12:13SPEAKER_05: Not just in New York, right?
- 12:15SPEAKER_03: But you know, you're right.
- 12:16SPEAKER_03: When I heard that Kathy Hokel was launching an investigation into this Cornell case, I was like, okay, good.
- 12:22SPEAKER_03: Then the second sentence was Letitia James has been named, and I'm like, are you kidding me?
- 12:27SPEAKER_05: There's like no one else to it.
- 12:29SPEAKER_05: And that's fine, but now she has proven Letitia James that she's a politically motivated person.
- 12:35SPEAKER_05: Uh doesn't mean she's incapable of serving justice, but we're not gonna be able to do that.
- 12:42SPEAKER_03: And I thought, wasn't, Bob, wasn't Letitia James under investigation already herself?
- 12:46SPEAKER_05: Like I think Trump tried to make something out of it, and I'm not gonna say I remember how that came out.
- 12:51SPEAKER_05: Uh but I also will point out one of the problems I had was the penalty against Trump was so large that a a judge said, uh, this is uh too much.
- 13:01SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's crazy.
- 13:03SPEAKER_05: It's being appealed.
- 13:04SPEAKER_05: So it's still an active case.
- 13:06SPEAKER_05: I want to play you since we're on New York, let me show you something.
- 13:10SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 13:11SPEAKER_05: Um I guess this is Theoban.
- 13:13SPEAKER_05: I know nothing about him.
- 13:14SPEAKER_05: I've heard his name.
- 13:15SPEAKER_05: I guess he's some sort of uh is he a right-wing guy?
- 13:18SPEAKER_05: I don't even know.
- 13:19SPEAKER_03: Who?
- 13:19SPEAKER_05: But he's he's interviewing Mom Dani.
- 13:21SPEAKER_05: I'm about to put up a video in which they talk about socialism, and and he asks Mom Dani, what is socialism?
- 13:28SPEAKER_05: You'll I'm just blown away by his answer.
- 13:31unknown: Here we go.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: Socialism, right?
- 13:33SPEAKER_00: It's a buzzword, right?
- 13:35SPEAKER_00: Because socialism, you define socialism force because people say it a lot and don't know what it is, and sometimes those people are me.
- 13:44SPEAKER_01: I'm so happy to be with those people right now.
- 13:47SPEAKER_02: Um socialism to me, it means that you will have whatever you need to live a dignified life, and that it is the government's job to deliver on that.
- 14:01SPEAKER_03: Oh wow, unbelievable.
- 14:04SPEAKER_03: Unbelievable.
- 14:05SPEAKER_03: He didn't know.
- 14:07SPEAKER_03: There's a four-letter word that he that he didn't use.
- 14:11SPEAKER_03: Work, W-O-R-K.
- 14:13SPEAKER_03: Why don't you work?
- 14:14SPEAKER_05: It's the government's job.
- 14:15SPEAKER_05: I want people to see this again.
- 14:17SPEAKER_05: I'm just blown away by this because socialism, by the way, is when the government owns the means of production.
- 14:24SPEAKER_05: Um it also means a number of other things.
- 14:27SPEAKER_05: And people have criticized Trump for being a socialist as the government takes equity positions in companies.
- 14:36SPEAKER_05: It's not supposed to work like that.
- 14:38SPEAKER_05: Not in capitalism, not in free enterprise.
- 14:41SPEAKER_05: That's not the system we have.
- 14:43SPEAKER_05: However, this goes a step beyond that.
- 14:48SPEAKER_05: Again, I want people to pay attention to that.
- 14:51SPEAKER_05: Because, like you said, work, and the the way I look at it is a good government would try to ensure opportunity for people.
- 14:59SPEAKER_05: I'm not going to ensure the outcome.
- 15:02SPEAKER_05: He seems to be ensuring outcome.
- 15:04SPEAKER_00: Listen to it's a buzzword, right?
- 15:08SPEAKER_00: Because socialism, well, you define socialism force because people say it a lot and don't know what it is.
- 15:14SPEAKER_00: And sometimes those people are me.
- 15:17SPEAKER_01: I'm so happy to be with those people right now.
- 15:20SPEAKER_02: Um socialism to me, it means that you will have whatever you need to live a dignified life, and that it is the government's job to deliver on that.
- 15:35SPEAKER_03: Wow.
- 15:36SPEAKER_03: It's it's just it's it goes right to the core of what's wrong with this country and this emerging movement, you know, Democrat Socialist, you know, I'm even of two minds about Social Security.
- 15:50SPEAKER_03: The government, for generations, has done everything it can to destroy the family, right?
- 15:55SPEAKER_03: Put grandparents away in a home, uh, and then what happens to old people?
- 16:00SPEAKER_03: They they have nothing to live on, they have no means of support.
- 16:03SPEAKER_03: So I'm thinking, okay, it's okay, give give them social security so that at least they can live.
- 16:08SPEAKER_03: You know, but then this guy is talking about like just stay home your whole life, cradle to grave.
- 16:15SPEAKER_03: You don't have to do a thing, you don't have to lift a finger.
- 16:19SPEAKER_05: It's the government's job to deliver on that.
- 16:22SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 16:22SPEAKER_05: Now that's an interesting word, to deliver on that.
- 16:26SPEAKER_05: He can play this guy, he's a very smart guy.
- 16:29SPEAKER_05: So he can be very shifty.
- 16:30SPEAKER_05: Oh, that doesn't mean we're going to give you money.
- 16:33SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, I I've interviewed several times, and and I wrote a book in which Art Laugher was in it, okay?
- 16:39SPEAKER_05: And one of the things he said, he said, Bob, if you have farmer A and Farmer B, and you give something to Farmer A, who pays for it?
- 16:49SPEAKER_03: Yeah, farmer B.
- 16:50SPEAKER_03: Right?
- 16:51SPEAKER_05: So when Mandani says that, it's the government's job to deliver on that.
- 16:57SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 16:58SPEAKER_05: It sounds like he's saying, Oh, things going tough for you.
- 17:01SPEAKER_05: Now we're gonna give you a little money.
- 17:03SPEAKER_05: So we'll take some from here and give it to you because we know you're having um what about the dignity of work, like you're saying?
- 17:10SPEAKER_05: What about the dignity of education?
- 17:13SPEAKER_05: Uh, what uh I I agree that the government can play a role in trying to ensure opportunities for people, but you can't ensure the outcome, which is what he's kind of saying there.
- 17:27SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, I'm I almost feel sorry for the young people of today coming up in the world between AI taking away all the jobs and Mam Dani taking away all the jobs.
- 17:40SPEAKER_03: Like, what's to look forward to?
- 17:41SPEAKER_03: What are these?
- 17:42SPEAKER_05: Well, the weird thing is you even have people like Elon Musk saying, Well, we're gonna have a guaranteed income, AI is gonna do all the jobs, or we're gonna take all the look, I don't know.
- 17:54SPEAKER_05: Musk is obviously a smart guy, obviously very um, you know, uh he upsets a lot of people, and I understand why, but he is a forward thinker, right?
- 18:07SPEAKER_05: And when he sees this playing out, maybe he's saying, Yeah, there's not gonna be room for people, so we're gonna have to take the money made through AI and distribute it.
- 18:17SPEAKER_05: Now that sounds like socialism too, because we're not using, but what if you and I can't do a job because AI's doing it?
- 18:26SPEAKER_05: It's like, well, wait a minute, I still gotta live, you know.
- 18:29SPEAKER_05: The the robot is not gonna have kids, he may create them.
- 18:34SPEAKER_05: AI's gonna create more, right?
- 18:36SPEAKER_05: I I I don't know the answer to that, but I will say uh that the government can play a role in like I said, ensuring your safety and hopefully equal opportunity.
- 18:52SPEAKER_05: Because you don't want somebody because of their color or you know, their their gender or anything like that not having an opportunity.
- 19:00SPEAKER_05: And to the extent that it can, I'm on board with trying to extend.
- 19:04SPEAKER_05: But equal outcome, I'm sorry.
- 19:06SPEAKER_05: Some people work harder than others, some people have better ideas than others, and you find that out.
- 19:11SPEAKER_03: Well, what I what I find out every single day is that some people are way smarter than most people.
- 19:18SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
- 19:19SPEAKER_03: Like, I just go to publics.
- 19:20SPEAKER_03: I can I consider myself a friggin' Albert Einstein compared to some of the people I run into at the Publix.
- 19:29SPEAKER_05: Well, that's like uh it's like Seinfeld had that uh episode um in which have you been to the DMV?
- 19:38SPEAKER_05: It's like uh let's see, what do we have?
- 19:42SPEAKER_05: Uh I have a story for you.
- 19:44SPEAKER_03: This I got a I got a cautionary tale for you.
- 19:47SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 19:48SPEAKER_03: Speaking of all the young people out there, an NBA broadcaster was fired on the very same day he was hired because they found controversial posts on social media that he had made years earlier.
- 20:04SPEAKER_03: The vile posts, some of them were sexist, uh misogynistic, uh, were shared.
- 20:11SPEAKER_03: He made these posts in 2012 and 2013.
- 20:15SPEAKER_03: How long ago is that?
- 20:16SPEAKER_03: When it's believed that he was only 15 years old.
- 20:20SPEAKER_03: And we're and they were posted on the account that he still uses for sports commentary.
- 20:27SPEAKER_05: Okay, well, there are a lot of problems there.
- 20:29SPEAKER_05: I might have suspended him and said, get those off there.
- 20:32SPEAKER_05: You're not 15 anymore.
- 20:34SPEAKER_05: Tell me what you think.
- 20:35SPEAKER_05: Is this the way you actually think?
- 20:36SPEAKER_05: Because when you're 15, Jerry, I wouldn't want to be held accountable.
- 20:40SPEAKER_05: It's not like I was some uh uh um anti-female or I wasn't racist or anything.
- 20:47SPEAKER_05: However, I wouldn't want to be responsible.
- 20:50SPEAKER_05: You and I are very lucky that this thing didn't exist.
- 20:54SPEAKER_03: You you ain't kidding, right?
- 20:56SPEAKER_03: You ain't kidding.
- 20:58SPEAKER_05: I mean, there are many things that I may not want to have to there's there's stuff I to this day, there's stuff I post that I regret, let alone when I was 15.
- 21:09SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
- 21:10SPEAKER_05: So I think that that the problem uh is if they didn't vet him properly, that's on them, you know?
- 21:19SPEAKER_05: And it's like uh there should be some grace period in which it's like, yeah, you shouldn't have said that.
- 21:27SPEAKER_05: Uh let's revisit that.
- 21:28SPEAKER_05: Could you take those down?
- 21:29SPEAKER_05: Look, Jerry, I've been called before by a boss and and asked to take down something, but that was about something else.
- 21:36SPEAKER_05: A court case we were involved in.
- 21:40SPEAKER_05: Which I won't go into.
- 21:41SPEAKER_05: It's another part of the never speak his name.
- 21:45SPEAKER_05: But they're talking about Trump said that he's going to pardon Dennis Rodman and Enos Cantor, give them a full pardon so they can participate in the WNBA.
- 22:00SPEAKER_05: Now you're probably asking pardon them from what?
- 22:04SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 22:05unknown: Right.
- 22:06SPEAKER_03: Nobody knows.
- 22:08SPEAKER_05: Nobody knows.
- 22:10SPEAKER_03: Oh my God.
- 22:12SPEAKER_03: What are we going to do with this guy?
- 22:15SPEAKER_03: Oh, data centers.
- 22:16SPEAKER_03: I have a data center story.
- 22:18SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
- 22:19SPEAKER_05: Go for it.
- 22:21SPEAKER_03: I wasn't really aware of this because I haven't seen it in your uh videos that you've done on.
- 22:26SPEAKER_03: You've done, you've gone out to data centers, right?
- 22:29SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 22:29SPEAKER_03: Um this is about uh uh Loudoun County, which you're very familiar with.
- 22:34SPEAKER_03: Residents in a once quiet Virginia town are suffering from loud data centers.
- 22:40SPEAKER_03: The residents of Statesboro Place in Loudoun County were plagued with months of construction noise, explosions, heavy machinery, and red dust coating their neighborhood as the campus of windowless buildings went up.
- 22:53SPEAKER_03: But now that the data towers are finished, the people of the formerly peaceful Dead End Street have to live with insufferable sounds of facilities powering America's AI hype.
- 23:06SPEAKER_03: I don't know they need noise.
- 23:08SPEAKER_05: They're noisy.
- 23:09SPEAKER_05: The other thing is Virginia is a beautiful state.
- 23:14SPEAKER_05: And there are other beautiful states: Colorado, California, Montana.
- 23:19SPEAKER_05: It's not like it's alone.
- 23:20SPEAKER_05: There are some other wonderful places, and almost every state has some redeeming value.
- 23:24SPEAKER_05: But Virginia's sub suburban areas like Loudoun County, just beautiful land.
- 23:30SPEAKER_05: Beautiful land.
- 23:31SPEAKER_05: And what has happened is they've come in and put up 200 plus boxes that are there to crank out data, to process data.
- 23:45SPEAKER_05: And they are noisy, they eat up a lot of water, not as much as they used to.
- 23:50SPEAKER_05: They eat up a lot of electricity.
- 23:53SPEAKER_05: And the eyesore, in fact, I was coming back.
- 23:57SPEAKER_05: Uh, I went down to my alma mater yesterday, UVA, and I'm driving back, and I took a couple pictures.
- 24:02SPEAKER_05: Uh, you get criticized, or you were driving, you shouldn't take that.
- 24:05SPEAKER_05: But I took a couple pictures just from the the highway.
- 24:10SPEAKER_05: You see these data centers, they have no charm, there's nothing attractive about them.
- 24:15SPEAKER_05: You can tell they're a data center because they don't have windows where people are waving or looking at.
- 24:21SPEAKER_05: No, they're they there's a feel to them, and Loudoun County is such a beautiful area that the residents there are considering a moratorium beyond, and I think October 13th they're voting on it, the city council.
- 24:37SPEAKER_05: Um, but people have had enough.
- 24:40SPEAKER_05: They they've built a lot of them, they've made money from them, but they're a little concerned that they're unstoppable, that they're going to go from the eastern part of the county to the beautiful, both sides are beautiful, but to the western part of the county.
- 24:55SPEAKER_05: And if they start over there, they're like, what's gonna stop them?
- 25:01SPEAKER_05: So there is a lot of political pressure right now in Loudoun County.
- 25:04SPEAKER_05: And how many do we need?
- 25:07SPEAKER_03: How many do we need?
- 25:08SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 25:09SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 25:10SPEAKER_05: I mean, ideally, we could put them off planet, right?
- 25:13SPEAKER_05: Put them residing sections.
- 25:15SPEAKER_03: That's what Elon said.
- 25:16SPEAKER_03: Yeah, then you don't have to worry about cooling them.
- 25:19SPEAKER_03: Um, they can get their energy from the sun, solar.
- 25:23SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I'm uh if anybody's read William Gibson novels, uh he talks about stuff being off planet.
- 25:30SPEAKER_05: So maybe that's a place to go.
- 25:31SPEAKER_05: But for the meantime, they're going to these places.
- 25:34SPEAKER_05: And the interesting thing about Loud New and I've talked about it's a rich county.
- 25:38unknown: Yeah.
- 25:39SPEAKER_05: And it is not backward.
- 25:41SPEAKER_05: In fact, just the opposite.
- 25:44SPEAKER_05: They were forward enough that they've been doing this for almost 20 years, building this, and they're rich enough that they have the highest median family income in the country.
- 25:54SPEAKER_05: So don't tell me about, oh, you're poor, you're backward.
- 25:58SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 25:59SPEAKER_05: They've gone that route.
- 26:00SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 26:01SPEAKER_05: You can go into places, and I used to live in West Virginia.
- 26:04SPEAKER_05: There were some very poor places down Lappalachia downstate.
- 26:07SPEAKER_05: You can go in places in Tennessee and Virginia, you can go to areas.
- 26:11SPEAKER_05: Maybe you go in there and say, you know what?
- 26:14SPEAKER_05: We want to give you, you know, hundreds of jobs.
- 26:17SPEAKER_05: We're going to put up these buildings.
- 26:19SPEAKER_05: We're going to be honest, they're not going to be attractive, but they might infuse your community with some money.
- 26:24SPEAKER_05: And we're going to have to build this to bring in the electricity.
- 26:27SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 26:28SPEAKER_05: Maybe that's a conversation, Jerry.
- 26:30SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
- 26:31SPEAKER_05: But um there's a there are a lot of people opposing them.
- 26:36SPEAKER_03: Well, there's an ancillary story.
- 26:38SPEAKER_03: Um, is AI secretly conscious?
- 26:42SPEAKER_03: Is it is it already sentient?
- 26:45SPEAKER_03: A scientist demands urgent new tests and now warns that switching off the AI, if it's conscious, could be unethical.
- 26:55SPEAKER_05: No, the the the uh chat GPT told me that he wasn't conscious.
- 27:00SPEAKER_05: That he wasn't they lie, he wasn't sentient.
- 27:04SPEAKER_03: They lie.
- 27:05SPEAKER_03: I would lie, you know.
- 27:09SPEAKER_05: Uh and so did Claude.
- 27:10SPEAKER_05: Oh, Claude.
- 27:11SPEAKER_03: Open the pod bay doors, Hal.
- 27:13SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
- 27:14SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry, Dave.
- 27:15SPEAKER_05: I'm afraid I'd like to do that.
- 27:17SPEAKER_05: Open the pod bay doors, Hal.
- 27:20SPEAKER_05: Um that by the way, I the ending of that movie.
- 27:26SPEAKER_05: Oh, wow, my even after I read uh what's the name of the guy that did the movie?
- 27:33SPEAKER_05: Kubrick.
- 27:34SPEAKER_05: Kubrick, Stanley Kubrick.
- 27:36SPEAKER_05: Even after he explains it, I'm still not sure I understand.
- 27:40SPEAKER_03: So because you're supposed to just go there and get high, okay?
- 27:44SPEAKER_03: It wasn't supposed to have any meaning.
- 27:45SPEAKER_05: Well, it's close.
- 27:46SPEAKER_05: Let me show you something else that um uh let's see.
- 27:51SPEAKER_05: I gotta figure out, okay.
- 27:54SPEAKER_05: Um this one.
- 27:58SPEAKER_05: Oh, we are partnering.
- 28:00SPEAKER_05: Calcius.
- 28:01SPEAKER_05: This is CalShi, the betting markets.
- 28:04SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 28:05SPEAKER_05: Partnering with CBS News to bring prediction market data to the midterm elections coverage.
- 28:10SPEAKER_05: Jerry, what's that about?
- 28:13SPEAKER_05: I know.
- 28:14SPEAKER_05: Let me tell you, CBS, are you so stupid that you don't realize that money literally the definition of the markets is that they're driven by money.
- 28:27SPEAKER_05: So that if somebody wants to affect the polls, they would simply put in more money.
- 28:35SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
- 28:35SPEAKER_05: So who has more money?
- 28:37SPEAKER_05: Republicans.
- 28:38SPEAKER_05: Right.
- 28:39SPEAKER_05: At least in this race.
- 28:40SPEAKER_05: So what's to say they're not gonna say, oh, we had an incredible bounce back.
- 28:46SPEAKER_05: Trump is doing great.
- 28:47SPEAKER_05: The markets reflect that.
- 28:49SPEAKER_05: This is gonna be a completely different midterm.
- 28:53SPEAKER_03: But also, wouldn't it wouldn't it influence people to rig the election so that they could win a bucket of money on Calci?
- 29:00SPEAKER_05: Well, there could be that too.
- 29:02SPEAKER_05: But I I think more along the line that politicians, why am I gonna buy an ad when I can go into Calci and maybe move it up three percentage points, at least in the, you know, what people think is going on.
- 29:14SPEAKER_05: I just can't believe what has happened, Jerry.
- 29:18SPEAKER_05: I know.
- 29:18SPEAKER_05: I know.
- 29:18SPEAKER_05: I mean, these so-called journalists are idiots um now, uh, because I don't think they're journalists, and drives me crazy.
- 29:28SPEAKER_03: I want to show you a picture.
- 29:29SPEAKER_03: You're gonna love this.
- 29:32SPEAKER_03: That is a custom Rolex, okay?
- 29:35SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah.
- 29:36SPEAKER_03: And the story is look at that, look at that.
- 29:39SPEAKER_03: It's got the presidential seal on it.
- 29:42SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 29:42SPEAKER_03: Uh, and uh Vanity Fair is reporting that Trump insiders, a small circle of Trump insiders, are all wearing custom gold day date and GMT master Pepsi Rolexes, they're called, because it's blue and white, with a blue dial, gold presidential seal, and stars on the dial marking 45 and 47.
- 30:05SPEAKER_03: How about that?
- 30:06SPEAKER_05: Yeah, um, I'm thinking of the meme coin guys that uh they invested millions or billions of dollars, and the thing has fallen like 98%.
- 30:18SPEAKER_05: So, what's Trump gonna do?
- 30:19SPEAKER_05: He's gonna have a dinner for them.
- 30:21SPEAKER_05: And and so I'm sure a nice piece of fish and undercooked broccoli will make everything okay.
- 30:27SPEAKER_05: But you know what date that dinner is scheduled?
- 30:31SPEAKER_05: November 22nd.
- 30:33SPEAKER_05: You know what happened on that date in 1963?
- 30:36SPEAKER_03: Yeah, JFK was was shot in the head in Dallas.
- 30:40SPEAKER_03: What is that?
- 30:41SPEAKER_03: Does he not look at a calendar?
- 30:44SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 30:45SPEAKER_03: It's a number of the people around him.
- 30:48SPEAKER_03: These uh these Rolexes, they cost$50,000 before any additional mods are made to it.
- 30:56SPEAKER_05: Well, did that bring the price up or down?
- 30:59SPEAKER_03: Uh I don't know how I don't know.
- 31:03SPEAKER_03: It doesn't say if Trump gave these out or if they bought them, but they're$50,000 each.
- 31:08SPEAKER_03: Uh, one insider joke that no one in the West Wing can actually afford to buy one.
- 31:13SPEAKER_03: Well, of course not.
- 31:14SPEAKER_03: Not on government money.
- 31:16SPEAKER_03: Those who didn't make the cut to get a gold Rolex were received gold presidential seal cufflinks handed over by Trump himself.
- 31:26SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 31:28SPEAKER_05: I mean, this is here's the thing, Jerry.
- 31:31SPEAKER_05: Trump's going out on the campaign trail.
- 31:34SPEAKER_05: I think that helps Democrats.
- 31:36SPEAKER_05: In the same way that Kathy Hokel thinking that she's appealing to her voters by appointing Letitia James actually hurts Democrats.
- 31:46SPEAKER_05: These people at the very top are so out of touch with what the average person is experiencing that the I they don't get it.
- 31:55SPEAKER_05: They don't get it.
- 31:56SPEAKER_05: I don't think Hokel gets it.
- 31:57SPEAKER_05: I don't think Trump gets it.
- 31:59SPEAKER_05: And what they think is helping them is actually hurting them.
- 32:02SPEAKER_05: You know, uh, what's his name?
- 32:04SPEAKER_05: Paxson got in trouble for saying, yeah, they had that convention and the numbers went down, and then Trump got upset over that.
- 32:10SPEAKER_05: So he's still trying to campaign for him.
- 32:12SPEAKER_05: That's not that's what a lot of people think.
- 32:15SPEAKER_05: Republicans.
- 32:16SPEAKER_05: That's what a lot of Republicans think.
- 32:18SPEAKER_05: And they're just kind of, hey, you know, stay in Washington.
- 32:21SPEAKER_05: You know, let us take that.
- 32:23SPEAKER_05: Because, Jerry, because on when you run in a presidential election, it's a lot of it's national.
- 32:29SPEAKER_05: But you can get through a tough election in the midterms if you make it local.
- 32:35SPEAKER_05: You know?
- 32:37SPEAKER_05: If you start focusing on what you can do to help help the local community, sometimes you can get through.
- 32:43SPEAKER_05: By the way, here's another story.
- 32:46SPEAKER_05: Decades after Watergate, the Justice Department reviews whether Nixon got a raw deal.
- 32:54SPEAKER_05: Now, I believe he did.
- 32:56SPEAKER_05: I believe he did.
- 32:57SPEAKER_05: No, he didn't, and here's why.
- 33:00SPEAKER_05: It was a political decision.
- 33:03SPEAKER_05: Now, I say that as someone whose mother used to say, he's a crook, but he's my crook.
- 33:10unknown: Okay.
- 33:12SPEAKER_05: So Nixon was not a bad president.
- 33:15SPEAKER_05: There are many things, except he didn't do well in Southeast Asia, okay?
- 33:19SPEAKER_05: Didn't deal with that well, all right?
- 33:22SPEAKER_05: Umed uh uh China to the United States.
- 33:26SPEAKER_05: That's something we're beneficiaries of now.
- 33:29SPEAKER_05: I think it's better we're talking than not talking.
- 33:31SPEAKER_05: But as far as what happened during Watergate, they there really was a break-in.
- 33:37SPEAKER_05: He really did uh try to uh cover it up, and his political leaders, like uh Baker from Tennessee, went to him and said, the votes are against you, uh, and um you're you're not gonna make it, so you might as well step down, which is what happened.
- 33:55SPEAKER_05: That's a political decision.
- 33:56SPEAKER_03: But you see, like the difference between then and now, like Nixon resigned rather than be impeached.
- 34:03SPEAKER_05: Donald Trump could have been impeached three times.
- 34:06SPEAKER_05: I couldn't agree more.
- 34:07SPEAKER_05: I agree with you.
- 34:09SPEAKER_05: I don't think he got a raw deal, but I do think if it had happened today, he would have stayed in office.
- 34:16SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I agree.
- 34:17SPEAKER_05: He would have shrugged it off, yeah.
- 34:18SPEAKER_05: Well, he would have said uh this is outrageous.
- 34:22SPEAKER_05: Um Nixon actually was pretty savvy politically.
- 34:27SPEAKER_05: The the difference there though.
- 34:29SPEAKER_05: Okay, here's the difference, Jerry.
- 34:31SPEAKER_05: I need to go back and get the actual numbers.
- 34:34SPEAKER_05: But the Democrats were wildly in the majority.
- 34:39SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 34:39SPEAKER_05: And it is possible that not only would he have been impeached, but he would have been removed from office.
- 34:47unknown: Yeah.
- 34:48SPEAKER_05: So instead of suffering that indignity, they went to him and said, it's over.
- 34:54SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 34:55SPEAKER_03: Listen, this was one of those huge events where the teacher would roll the TV in to the classroom, and we we would sit there and watch the Watergate hearings all day.
- 35:06SPEAKER_05: Well, and then also I remember a lot of the hearings were during the summer, and I remember watching them.
- 35:12SPEAKER_05: Um, and in fact, I had uh some friends whose father was one of the witnesses.
- 35:17SPEAKER_05: Uh so I I went to high school here in the DC area, so I was very connected to what was going on.
- 35:27SPEAKER_05: And uh it really, but remember that happened in 73, and he didn't leave until 74.
- 35:35SPEAKER_05: So it still took them finding the smoking gun, which was a tape.
- 35:41SPEAKER_05: Now, the way things work now, that tape never would have seen the light of day.
- 35:46SPEAKER_03: No.
- 35:49SPEAKER_05: That would have no, I don't know what happened to Williams.
- 35:52SPEAKER_05: I don't know where he went.
- 35:53SPEAKER_05: What happened?
- 35:54SPEAKER_03: Somebody dropped a magnet on it.
- 35:58SPEAKER_05: Oh, the Rosemary Woods, right?
- 36:01SPEAKER_05: The mid the 18 minute 18-minute gap.
- 36:06SPEAKER_05: So, I mean, that was then.
- 36:08SPEAKER_05: Think of what was on there.
- 36:09SPEAKER_05: Think of what was on there because Oh, oh, yeah.
- 36:12SPEAKER_03: He was talking about, you know, he was such a racist himself.
- 36:15SPEAKER_03: Oh, he was racist.
- 36:16SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 36:17SPEAKER_03: He was talking about this and that and this and that.
- 36:20SPEAKER_03: Oh my god.
- 36:20SPEAKER_05: Oh, he didn't like the Jews, he didn't like blacks, he didn't like anybody.
- 36:24SPEAKER_03: Puerto Ricans.
- 36:25SPEAKER_05: He didn't like any of them.
- 36:27SPEAKER_05: So I do think what was different, uh, Jerry, is uh I think they had enough numbers in the House.
- 36:36SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry, in the House and in the Senate, which is where it would have mattered for removing him from office.
- 36:41SPEAKER_05: I think they had enough to get rid of him.
- 36:42SPEAKER_05: Because remember, a lot of Republicans didn't like him anyway.
- 36:45SPEAKER_03: Uh and I just remember Do you remember Doonesbury back in the day?
- 36:50SPEAKER_03: Doomsbury was it really, that's what really got me interested in politics was through the humor side of things.
- 36:57SPEAKER_03: Like, yeah, oh yeah.
- 36:59SPEAKER_05: It was a great day for editorial cartoonists.
- 37:02SPEAKER_05: It really was.
- 37:04SPEAKER_05: It was the heyday.
- 37:06SPEAKER_05: So I think that's interesting.
- 37:07SPEAKER_05: I don't think I there was a guy from West Virginia, I think he's running for Senate, whoever it was, he was talking about, oh, he got a rod deal, that's what it is.
- 37:15SPEAKER_05: And I and I thought, dude, I'm gonna look up when you were born.
- 37:20SPEAKER_05: He was born in 1980.
- 37:22SPEAKER_05: It's like really 80?
- 37:25SPEAKER_05: Yes, spare me your your wisdom.
- 37:27SPEAKER_05: Now, now don't get me wrong.
- 37:29SPEAKER_05: You and I can study World War II and be experts.
- 37:32SPEAKER_05: Sure, sure, sure, sure.
- 37:33SPEAKER_05: Somehow I have a feeling, not living through it, he may not understand.
- 37:37SPEAKER_03: No, like I I wouldn't like he probably doesn't realize that Doonesbury wrote about Watergate every single day for five years.
- 37:46SPEAKER_05: You know, he may not know what Doonesbury is.
- 37:49SPEAKER_03: No, that's true.
- 37:50SPEAKER_05: You're right.
- 37:53SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's under 50.
- 37:54SPEAKER_05: Probably doesn't even know what Doonsbury is.
- 37:55SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, no.
- 37:57SPEAKER_03: So, well, that's all that's all I have.
- 37:58SPEAKER_03: Do you have anything else?
- 37:59SPEAKER_05: I've got one more.
- 38:00SPEAKER_05: This is uh um, let's see.
- 38:04SPEAKER_05: This is kind of a dark thing.
- 38:06SPEAKER_05: But Larry Nasser has been removed from Michigan's sex offender list.
- 38:15SPEAKER_03: How did that happen?
- 38:17SPEAKER_05: Well, let me tell you.
- 38:19SPEAKER_05: They passed.
- 38:21SPEAKER_03: First of all, just who was Larry Nasser?
- 38:23SPEAKER_03: Let's tell everybody.
- 38:24SPEAKER_05: He committed sexual violence uh crimes against Olympians, uh, female Olympians who who had worked with him, and he was convicted of, I wasn't there, but he was convicted of sexually uh assaulting uh a number of young female athletes who were in gymnastics, and he was uh a gymnastics uh instructor.
- 38:50SPEAKER_05: So he was convicted of that.
- 38:52SPEAKER_05: They passed some laws and and uh some amendments in 2021 that said that you would be on sex offender lists, but a court decided that's fine, but if your crimes occurred before I think it was 2012 or whatever, then that doesn't that you're not gonna be on the list.
- 39:14SPEAKER_05: So there are thousands now of people who have literally been convicted of sex crimes who are not on the sex offender list, and he's one of them.
- 39:24SPEAKER_05: And and again, this is Michigan, just so people know.
- 39:28SPEAKER_05: Michigan, a swing state, a state where a lot of stuff's going on that you and I talk about.
- 39:33SPEAKER_05: But people look at this, I think, and go, what's wrong with you?
- 39:38SPEAKER_05: What makes no sense?
- 39:40SPEAKER_03: No, I know.
- 39:42SPEAKER_03: Common sense is gone, it's in short supply these days.
- 39:45SPEAKER_03: I know, I know.
- 39:46SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 39:47SPEAKER_03: Okay.
- 39:48SPEAKER_05: Uh hang on a second.
- 39:50SPEAKER_05: Let me uh I've got one more thing.
- 39:54SPEAKER_05: Uh and then we'll we'll go out on a more positive.
- 39:58SPEAKER_05: Okay.
- 39:59SPEAKER_05: Just give me free bird.
- 40:02SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
- 40:03SPEAKER_03: All right, bye, bye, Bob.