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EXPOSED: Globalists ‘Secretly Working with Banks’ to Create Famine in US w/ Clayton Llewellyn · Man in America Podcast

• 0:00
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So there's been a recent article that's come out, then you wouldn't have guessed it, but basically showing how the UN and the WEF is globalist organizations are working together with banks to penalize farmers that aren't properly adhering to their communist ESG goals. So what this means is that you could have a farmer here in America that is, say, not giving his cows something to make them fart less, or that's not using enough green energy, or whatever it is, and he might then go to his local bank and find that he's been shut out of his bank because he's being penalized by his globalist organization. Now, on the surface, it seems like it's another one of their initiatives to try to make this a better green world, but we know that the green new world they're building is actually a red world, world that is ruled by communism.
• 1:01
  And using the excuse of green and saving the planet, we know that they will do anything and everything control us and to collapse the systems that we need. One of the biggest being our food supply. And so whether it's been the destruction of the food plants that we saw a lot of last year, specifically in the, you know, year and a half or so ago, whether it's that, whether it's the initiatives to, like Bill Gates to buy up all the farmland or what we're seeing with the wildfires and they're, you know, wiping out ranchers in Texas. There's been this multipronged attack on our food supply because they know that of all things, if they can seize control of our food, they have absolute control over us. And joining us today is my good friend Clayton Lewellen, who is the founder of Heaven's Harvest, who focuses specifically in emergency survival food, seed kits, water purification, or basically a guy who's built an entire business on what it means to be prepared, especially as it relates to food, water, and seeds.
• 2:03
  So folks, please enjoy the interview. Clayton, it is great to finally have you on the show. Thank you so much for joining us today.
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: And, Seth, thanks for having me.
• 2:13
  Seth Holehouse: So today's discussion is food, and not just food, but I think more importantly, the threat to our food supply, how food can become a weapon when the people that are in control of food supply can use it against people, which we've seen countless times throughout history, whether it was the Red Famine or Holodomor or any number of times we've seen that food's been used to control the population. And so you are the founder of Heaven's Harvest, which I've personally, I bought a lot of stuff from you guys. It's it's sitting in my basement area. It's it's that that, you know, the it's the the box of things I don't touch unless I absolutely have to. So you you've really got your finger on the pulse as it relates to food supply.
• 2:55
  And before we get into I'll show give a preview of one article I wanna focus on specifically, in addition to some other things about how the UN is secretly working with banks to destroy the American food industry, which sounds alarming, but normal these days. I I first wanted to see your perspective because, you know, you've you've you've built a business around helping give people a supply of food for crisis. You know, know, you're not selling fresh groceries that people are cooking with. You know, you're really helping people get food and seeds that they can really become independent with. And so one of the big questions that I have is, what have you seen change in this particular industry?
• 3:35
  Like, how have you seen consumers responding, and what's the the thinking behind the people that are coming to you, especially over these past couple of years?
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: Well, it's it you know, it's funny. Like, the reason we started this doesn't really didn't even have anything to do with like the article you just pulled up or I mean, it was for no reason like that, you know, and I think ten, fifteen years ago, everybody else is on the same page. Know, Speaking of babies, we had just had a baby and it was no longer Clayton has to take care of himself. Now you got a family to take care of. I mean, we were living in Florida at the time.
• 4:08
  So when I was worried about a hurricane, we were worried about having enough beer in your refrigerator to have fun. You have a family, now it's a different perspective. Bill Ironically, was working for farmers in Florida, like the big commercial farmers. I was listening to your last podcast to see one of those farms, it is crazy how much chemicals are sprayed on the produce we're eating. I mean, crazy.
• 4:36
  There's a fleet of tractors that just run nonstop 20 fourseven spraying produce. So that kind of got us into the heirloom seed. So in the very beginning, we weren't even concerned about the UN messing with banks and food shortages. That wasn't even a concern at that time. The concern at that time was worrying about a hurricane or an earthquake or a tornado, something along those lines, healthier, learning to eat healthier.
• 5:04
  Because obviously the food we have in our grocery stores is absolute garbage. It's all processed food. So that's kind of where this whole thing started. But I think back when we started, that was most of the people that bought from us, that's what they were worried about. That's what they were concerned with.
• 5:18
  That's what they were trying to stock up for. And I always say, I hope every product I sell never gets used. That's honestly the goal here. But if you need it, you'll have it. And I mean, the farther we get along in this, it's gone from preparing for a hurricane to now preparing for war.
• 5:39
  And you can see the mindset changing along with everybody as we go through this. Years ago, we talked about eating healthy and growing heirloom seeds in your own garden. And now we're talking about Ukraine and Russia, China and Taiwan, Israel and Gaza. You're talking about the protest all over Europe right now you know, with the farmers over there. So it's just it's completely changed in the last ten-twelve years.
• 6:08
  Seth Holehouse: It really has. And I, it's interesting because you mentioned the, this, you know, how at one point is about growing your own food and heirloom seeds. And that's where it was for me earlier on. It was this excitement of, like, I wanna be more self sufficient. I wanna be able to to to touch the soil that, you know, so my my you know, the all the the beautiful bacteria that is interacting with me and the plants and have that relationship with the food, and it's gone from that.
• 6:35
  And I I don't wanna lose sight of that, because that's really a really special thing about growing food and, you know, raising, you know, chickens, etcetera. But it's now it's different. It's now, like, as I look at, you know, reports coming around, what's happening with the Southern border. And, actually, you know, Michael Yon, a good friend, he recently put a report. It's one of his people that are on the ground there left this really terrifying voice mail with him saying, look.
• 6:58
  He's seeing that the CCP is working with the cartels, bringing troops across the border, and that they're planning some sort of event on American soil. I mean, this is like, I think we're at a place where we I think as Americans, we've always looked at America, especially recently in the past couple of decades. We think that we're almost bulletproof. Right? It's like, you know, Rome wasn't gonna fall until it fell, and and we have this normalcy bias to think that, oh, that won't happen in America.
• 7:27
  But all the signs are showing that whether it's the Holodomor or the the, you know, you know, Mao's Red Guard taking over the Red Famine or any of these different events that you've seen, we're not immune to that in America. And so for me, it's a lot of it has become not just in trying to enjoy growing food. I don't wanna lose sight of that, but it's me thinking, okay, what happens if I lose access to food for six months? What happens? Can I feed my family?
• 7:57
  Can I protect my food supply? Can I secure water? Can I secure energy to to power the vitals? I mean, it it's completely different now, the mindset behind this.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: No, you're absolutely right. It's funny and it's almost in this backdoor media anymore. Everything just gets brushed over now. Everything happens so fast. You bring up China, it's like, how many thousands of them have come across the border of military aged men?
• 8:28
  We've never had this before. Never. We've got spy balloons flying across the country. They're flooding the streets with fentanyl. Have you seen this Glock switch they're sending over here now?
• 8:40
  Seth Holehouse: Mike No, I haven't seen that.
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: Mike Oh my gosh. It turns a Glock pistol into a machine gun for like $10. There was just a shooting in Atlanta where at Six Flags where they've got like video recordings of it and you hear the guns going off in the background. Sounds like a machine gun. Mean that's a $300 pistol with a $20 part that China's I mean they're flooding the country with them.
• 9:04
  They're causing this disruption on purpose. You know, we're complicit to it. We're not even you know, we don't we go about our day to day lives not even worried about it, and they're preparing for war.
• 9:15
  Seth Holehouse: And that's the key thing too. You know, we've got a lot of enemies, which we'll talk about the WEF and the UN and all these people. But I've I've studied China and the CCP a lot. And if you look at it, in their minds, they've been at war with our country for decades. It it just it's not the kind of war that we identify.
• 9:31
  They're not dropping bombs and, you know, bringing troops over and shooting us, but they're they're absolutely at war. It's just fifth generation. It's unrestricted warfare. And, you know, if you look at how war has often been fought, whether you're looking at modern day war or going back into, you know, say, three kingdoms era in in China or ancient Rome, control of the food supply was always one of the number one things that determine who would win a war. If you can cut off your enemy's food supply, if you can starve the your enemy's people, that's key.
• 10:07
  So that and that's what that's what's really worried because I've also studied EMPs a lot. And what happens if an EMP goes off? What happens to our food supply? Looking at, you know, how the grocery stores even work and how it it's not like the old days where the grocery stores got a month worth of food. I mean, they're ordering food, you know, by the day, basically, to keep those those stores where they are.
• 10:27
  And so what are you're obviously interacting with a lot of customers that are coming to you. What what's the What's the mentality of people that are coming? Do you talk to folks or what are they concerned about now? Thirty:fifty
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, it's funny you say that because I don't think a lot of people realize how vulnerable our food system is here in this country. You know what I mean? Days out on food, like you said, maybe a month, two months, fifty years ago, today, it's literally days more out of food. Mean, if an EMP were to hit our electrical grid in this country, like a lot of people don't realize how vulnerable our electric grid is.
• 11:03
  And I can promise you, our enemies know how vulnerable it is, but a handful of guys could shut down the East Coast in minutes and it would take years to rebuild that. You know, I often think about this, like when we went into World War II, ninety percent of us still lived on a farm, still grew our own food, still raised our own animals. When we grew up, below our house was actually a root cellar. You know I mean? We had a garden like mom and dad every year canned food, stuck it in the root cellar.
• 11:38
  And we lived on that. I mean, that's how we lived. And within a generation that's completely gone. I live out in the country right now and we get a lot of people that walk in our door, well, we're out here, we can shoot a deer or we can do this or we can do that. Well, everybody starts shooting deer, the deer population is not going to be there very long.
• 11:59
  And the thing is if the power is out, that 100 pounds of meat is going to last you a week at most. We get a lot of people, I've got freezers full of fish and full of deer and elk and moose. Again, the power's out. How long does that stuff last in a freezer? How many people can even grow a garden anymore?
• 12:19
  I mean, the simple thing to take care of ourselves, even these people that live in rural America don't realize how dependent on the system they are for their everyday survival. So thirty:fifty
• 12:31
  Seth Holehouse: to mention medicines as well.
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: Mike Medicines, all of it. Say we argue with people over that, but there's a lot of pushback. No, I'm fine. I can take care of myself. I can do this.
• 12:43
  I can do that. But if you really take stock of what you have, most people don't even have the ability to filter water at their house right now. I mean, we can live for a couple of weeks without food. You're only gonna live for a couple of days without water. We're so used to be able to go over there and turn on a tap and have water that we've forgotten how to sterilize water ourselves.
• 13:05
  I mean, people they know that you got to boil water if you're going to drink it out of the creek. People don't have ways to store water anymore. It's a completely forgotten. We've forgotten how to survive. The government has put us in this situation to where they take care of us because they've taken care of us for the last couple of generations.
• 13:29
  Now they can control us through food, through power, through fuel, through any way they want. They can control us now.
• 13:38
  Seth Holehouse: No, they absolutely can. And I think that it's we've forgotten. I also think that it's been removed from us. I mean, I think it's part of you know, that there's been a a very long term war being waged on really just the the free people of the entire world. And I think a major aspect of that, especially if you look at here in America, the different cultural shifts and, you know, bringing women into the workplace, getting them off of, you know, out from off of the out of the family environment, bring people into the cities, you know, kinda, you know, demonizing the the farm life, and telling these women that, hey, there's instant food now, and, I mean, all these different campaigns that they went through to to really destroy the nuclear family, to pull us off of the land, to get us into the cities, because they know that that's what can control us.
• 14:21
  And it and it's it's the wisdom that I think has also been lost. Because if I think back to my great grandmother that lived through the Great Depression, I remember always going to her house. She had she didn't have a separate root cellar, but she had a cellar under her house. The walls were lined with canned food, and and there was never an instance where she wouldn't have months worth of of food that didn't need to be refrigerated, that would last indefinitely. I mean, for the, you know, obviously, it can it can go bad over time, but they've lost that.
• 14:53
  But also, there's just the the knowledge of growing food. There's a lot of people that think, oh, I've I've got my survival seed kit, And so if there's a famine, I'll be okay because I've got seeds. And Yeah. My wife and I, we've learned some painful lessons on how much food, like, how much garden, how many, you know, how many truckloads of good soil I had to truck in just to be able to grow good food because our soil was crapper we were before, not to mention being able to harvest on time, or it's, you know, we'd have it's like, oh my goodness. We've had the a certain beetle that wiped out our entire cucumber crop this year.
• 15:27
  I mean, most people have no idea what it actually takes to not just have, like, a hobby garden where, you know, I have some fresh tomatoes and some fresh basil for our pasta today, but to actually grow the amount of food and then be able to store it. So growing, it's one thing, but then knowing how to how to can the food, you know, how to store, you know, root that, you know, roots, you know, potatoes or to store your apples, which apple variations are gonna actually store and last through the winter. Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver.
• 16:06
  But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey. Buy this gold. Buy this silver. Right?
• 16:12
  Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 02/2023, the average family home is just over $400,000. So you have to ask yourself, why is that?
• 16:30
  Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No. It's actually because the dollar has lost 99 percent of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse of the dollar or inflation, this is what it means.
• 16:43
  Now let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today.
• 17:09
  What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home? No. You can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today.
• 17:28
  And this is the key lesson about precious metals. It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver, because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the nineteen thirties.
• 18:05
  We're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome. It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than doctor Kirk Elliott.
• 18:22
  He's a very good friend of mine. He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of central bank digital currencies. So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (720) 605-3900. Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth adviser that will help get you started on this path.
• 18:57
  Again, goldwithseth.com, 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 zero. And there's this there's so much of this that is really it's become it's become forgotten knowledge. And while I'm encouraged that there's this renaissance and there's this revival of this way of life, it's still, it's such a small population that's actually learning how to do these things again.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: It's a fraction. We get the same thing all the time. Just don't have time to do it. I don't have time to do it. We've got more free time now than we've ever had in the history of humanity.
• 19:30
  We've got too much free time. I believe that's part of our problem in this country anymore is we've got too much free time. We got time to protest. We got time to riot. We're not worried about feeding ourselves anymore because half of us are on food stamps.
• 19:47
  Think that's a big problem with what's going on right now. But it takes practice. This isn't something that you just, it's isn't just something that you're gonna throw seeds in the ground and they're gonna grow. You know what I mean? Like you said, there's all kinds of things that can happen, insects, too much rain, not enough rain.
• 20:05
  There's a bunch. It's been fun for us too. I don't want to tell you that we were experts the first time we did it either. Last year, I lost an entire crop last year because I put it in the ground too soon. So then I'm back trying to sprout seeds in my bedroom and then it's coming in late instead of being able to stagger stuff, we'll put it all in the ground at one time.
• 20:28
  When fall rolled around, I try to stagger like a couple of weeks, playing a couple of this week, a couple of next week, a couple of the following week. Well, we got froze out last year. So it all went in the ground at the same time and would fall rolled around. I had more tomatoes than I knew what to do with. I mean, it was crazy.
• 20:46
  It was crazy.
• 20:48
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, we had our painful lessons as well numerous times. So I wanna I wanna I wanna pull up this article because I wanna make sure we touch on this. And I I've covered food security for a really, really long time. I mean, I've I've whether it's again, Michael Yon is a person who's an expert on, you know, famine and what happens. And and I really think that there's a lot of people that look around and say, well, I can still go to the grocery store.
• 21:12
  I can still buy food. Life's pretty normal, and you've been saying that, you know, for the past year and a half that there's gonna be food shortages, and I can still get the pizza that I like, etcetera. It's always the case until it isn't, and that's the problem is that, you know, you can buy toilet paper as much as you want at Costco until the day that everyone realizes they need toilet paper, and then you can't buy it anymore. And that's that's my concern about what happens with this. And if if you look at all the indicators, and this is just one thing which we'll talk about here, this the UN working with the banks, but think about all the food plant explosions that, you know, everyone seems to forgot about now.
• 21:47
  All those plants aren't rebuilt magically. They're just they're out of commission now. All these things that got destroyed. But then looking at this, so this is an article that you'd sent me that really kind of kicked off this interview. UN this is gateway pundit.
• 22:00
  UN secretly working with banks to destroy American food industry. It's like, oh, imagine a globalist organization working with the globalist banks to destroy local industries that keep us alive. So I'll just I'm gonna read a few paragraphs in here. It says that there's a new campaign against farmers in which the United Nations works with banks to debank the food producers closing their accounts and not allowing them to operate their businesses. There's a report from news addicts, which explained officials from 12 US states have sounded an alarm after finding out that the, quote, unelected globalist United Nations is secretly working with banks to destroy the American farming industry.
• 22:40
  The report explained the banks use the UN's Marxist environmental, social, and corporate governance, ESG, criteria to score and penalize farmers. So they found that these farmers they found that the farmers not sufficiently woke, that is using methods and processes that are not ESG approved, have their accounts shut down without notice. What they say that the report charged, quote, the plot seeks to throttle the agriculture industry to eliminate all those who fail to comply with the globalist net zero agenda of the World Economic Forum, the WEF. It says the actual attack structure works through the UN's net zero banking alliance, the report explains. So, I mean, to me, this is just one more vector that that they're using to attack us.
• 23:31
  This is one more thing.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Seth, five years ago, when we talked about this, you could find one instance every few months. It's flooded now with where this is happening all over the world. And it's almost stupidity, but it's being done on purpose. I know we like to say, I think Henry Kissinger, what do you say? Well, they don't even credit him percent anymore, but you control oil, you control nations, you control food, you control the people.
• 24:02
  Whether he said that or not, it's the truth. That's what they're aiming for again. The idea here is that we'll shut the farms down, we'll grow all the food in warehouses, completely control what you eat. We'll give you a credit score. If you're not making your credit score, you only get this much food.
• 24:22
  You didn't do this this week, well, then you don't get any of these. That's where this is going. You see Bill Gates and all these guys buying up farmland all over The United States. I mean, he's probably in the top five landowners now and they're buying farmland. But it's not just The United States, this is already happening in Europe.
• 24:41
  Mean, I'm sure you've seen what's going on in The Netherlands. Is it a third of the farms they're trying to shut down in The Netherlands? That's crazy. That's huge. Sri Lanka, you saw what they tried doing in Sri Lanka.
• 24:55
  Nitrogen is causing global warming. I mean, it's one thing after another. It's like psychopaths trying to tell the world what to do and it's working. That's what's scary about it. Like we've got half the population that wants to fall right in line with it and agree with everything they say.
• 25:16
  So this UN article, it's just another one of those things. I'm not surprised at all when you read this stuff. A few years ago when you saw it, you're shocked and you're sending it to everybody like, Oh my gosh, look at this. But these woke scores, they're doing it with gun companies. Banks aren't working with gun companies anymore.
• 25:35
  And I don't know how I feel about this yet, but it's a lot of these big companies that what are they getting some kind of a, it's not, I don't wanna call it a credit score or a low score, but there's a, if they don't do enough transgender stuff, they don't get the score they need to market their product. I mean, it's just another thing like that. So I don't believe it's the farmers. It's so crazy anymore. I don't even know what to believe about it.
• 26:05
  But it's happening. It's happening all over the world. These foreign policies, Biden has signed us up for the exact same thing. We're worrying about the border now in Russia. So it's not being talked about in the news, but it's coming to The United States.
• 26:21
  I don't know what the exact numbers are, but how much of our national debt is to subsidize farmers? Government controls the farmers. We like to believe that it's mom and pop back there farming these 50,000 acre spots, it's not. The government controls it. And like I said, with the subsidies that we give the farmers right now, Seth, I can go on forever about this.
• 26:48
  We're so far in debt right now. If we have to cut out the subsidies for these farmers, half the population in this country is not going be able to afford food. I mean, if we had to pay the real cost for food right now, a loaf of bread would cost you $20 But we're subsidizing farmers and subsidizing corn growers and everybody that we're not even seeing the real cost right now. Like again, it goes, it's like an octopus, there's so many different legs to it. The debt is just, we're so far in debt, we've almost got to start a war just to get out of this debt.
• 27:25
  You know what I mean? And the whole world's in debt now. So how do you recover from that? Well, we go to war. We've done that time and time again through the centuries.
• 27:35
  They need a giant reset. I mean, we've been at war for what, twenty five years in a row, we've got a little bit of a break and now we're back at it again. So I mean, crazy, it's confusing, it doesn't look good. I don't know where we go from here, but they're going to really start to mess with the food system. Like I said, watched an article once where they were interviewing a lady from North Korea.
• 28:02
  They were asking her why there's never uprisings or why don't you fight back? She goes, because we spent all our time looking for food, we were hungry. This goes back to what was said earlier, like, think we've got too much free time on our hand right now. The elites know that. When you drive around at 10:00 in the morning or 02:00 in the afternoon, I don't know about where you live, I'm always thinking, don't these people have jobs?
• 28:29
  I mean, is nobody working anymore? We've become too wealthy of a middle class. I don't think we're too wealthy, but I have a feeling the elites think we're too wealthy. We've got too much free time. Like I said, we can riot, we can protest, we can argue about politics all day long, all day as to where before we were more concerned with, okay, we got to get to work, we got to feed our families, we got to take care of this, we got to take care of that.
• 28:54
  And it's kind of like they're seeing we've got too much wealth now so we need to knock them back down. You know, let's
• 29:00
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Let's create some inflation here. Let's drain their pocketbooks again.
• 29:03
  Seth Holehouse: It's almost like I I see there's there's two different bigger sections of the population. There's the people that are just on government welfare that have unlimited time, and it's actually more profitable for them to collect unemployment and welfare and Social Security and and any number of things that they can get their hands on than it is to work. So you have that half of things. I think it's also the side of the side of things that the people that are being hit with inflation, they're being hit with increased taxes, the increased food prices, and you might have a family where mom and dad are both working, you know, more than full time just to barely scrape by. And so they've done it.
• 29:44
  They they they they've really captured both sides. It's like, okay, we'll give these people free phones and free entertainment, and they're just gonna keep collecting and collecting and build a massive welfare state. And for the people that normally would have been the folks that are are are building businesses and and, you know, maintaining a household and really becoming, I think, like, the the the backbone of the country, so many of those folks are just especially the blue collar workers, they're just scrambling. They're scrambling, and they they they don't they have almost no time. So they're so busy that their way of checking in to what's happening in the world is sitting down to Sean Hannity for twenty minutes at night as I drink a beer and try to fall asleep for the day because they're so exhausted.
• 30:23
  I think that was done though is that the vast majority of people in this country, especially, have been pushed into this state where we've lost our self sufficiency, and we've lost our just the as a father and a husband and, you know, looking at my children, I feel this responsibility. Like, I'm thinking these things through. It's like, I will not allow myself to get to a day where I watch one of my children starve because I didn't prepare for them. I it's like if if something happens, whether it's a grid down or it's an attack by the CCP or even some sort of new policy by the globalist and by and by Biden that kicks off food shortages and potentially famine. If if my family can't eat, it's a % my fault.
• 31:11
  Because as the head of the household, I did not do my due diligence to think through and think through, okay, how many months worth of food do I have? What's my food inventory look like? All the things that you and I have talked about.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's the truth too. There's a lot of men now that don't think like you and I think we're going to take care of our families. Don't look past, well, mean, heck, of these countries live in paycheck to paycheck. We really going to think they're going to think a month ahead or two months ahead or six months ahead?
• 31:41
  It doesn't happen anymore. You were talking about what you were just saying there a second ago. I read an article the other day that in 2020, you're talking about the mom and dad working and just both parents have to work now to support a house. I read an article the other day that in 2020, a $70,000 a year household was considered middle class. In 2024, that same household needs to make 120,000 a year to be considered middle class just to fight inflation and keep up with the times.
• 32:17
  I mean, it's not doubled, it's pretty dang close to doubled in four years what a family needs to make now to be considered middle class. Can't keep up with it anymore. Again, they're doing this on purpose. This is the weak in the middle class, in America, open the border up, flood the cities with fentanyl. This is intentionally being done.
• 32:39
  Seth Holehouse: It absolutely is. And what that makes me think is, if it's gone from 70,000 to 120 in four years, you know, typically, these trends don't go like this. They go like this. They hockey stick. So what's it gonna be in four more years?
• 32:56
  Is it gonna be that you have to make $400,000 to be considered middle class? To me, that's about the where the trend lines are pointing to. And and which is also interesting because, you know, we when COVID first hit, my wife and I, which we've been following these things very closely, and listening to people like Mike Adams and people that are very aware of what happens when food systems collapse. And so we went out, and and we went through a big prepping phase at that point. You know, big trips to Costco, know, ordering a lot from Azure standard, and we put away a lot of food, you know, whether it's black beans or and I went and bought five gallon buckets, and so most of the dried grains I've got in five gallon gallon buckets with auction packets and, you know, hard red wheat and a and a and a wheat mill and everything for for creating flour.
• 33:43
  But even now, I look back at that, and I look at where the prices are now. You know, let's just say that we spent $10,000 3 years ago on, like, some really hardcore food prepping. That same food would now probably cost me between 20 and 20 5 thousand dollars. Prices have gone up that much, which is just, it's insane.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: No, I agree. Look, our food's freeze dried. It's packaged in Mylar bags. I mean, it's made the last twenty five years. If you had bought this stuff five or six years ago, you could eat off that food cheaper today than you can at the grocery store.
• 34:20
  That's crazy to think about that. It's going up so fast. I don't know what to do with it. Like I said, you see all what they're trying to do to the farmers and all that, it's only going to go up more. This isn't going to stop.
• 34:33
  Like you said, it doesn't go up like this and flatten off, it's going to continue to go up. You wonder why they're talking universal basic income for a lot of people. And you've got AI kicking in here now. Again, Seth, that goes in so many different directions. You know what I mean?
• 34:51
  This this stuff makes me nervous.
• 34:53
  Seth Holehouse: This
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: makes me nervous. Mean, what are you going to do if 150,000,000 people, well, heck, what are you going do if 25,000,000 people in this country in the next two years lose their jobs over AI? And it's going to happen. You know what I mean? Like, we were talking about the other day, an attorney can go to law school and pass the bar and spend his whole life working in law.
• 35:19
  But you can teach a robot in five minutes, everything about every law, every case, everything. And it knows it instantly. Why would I ever pay an attorney two hundred dollars an hour to do this? You know, like it's crazy. You see the fast food restaurants now that are completely run by AI in California.
• 35:42
  They can yell and scream, they want $20 an hour all they want, but a $10 an hour job shouldn't pay $20 an hour. If you've got an eighth grade education, this is what you end up with. Business owners are gonna figure this out.
• 35:57
  Seth Holehouse: They're
• 35:58
  put $100,000 into your restaurant AI and machines. Now I don't have to worry about $20 an
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: three:thirty
• 36:04
  Seth Holehouse: No one's calling off work. No one's calling in sick. No one's spitting in the food. None of that headache.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, I think this is all part of like the scam here, the big scheme. Know what I mean? Everything that's being introduced right now is again, back to like a universal basic income. We're starting to test the waters now. Let's see who's throwing a fit, who's not throwing a fit.
• 36:26
  You'll work over here. It's probably not gonna work there. Just like the COVID. Mean, they've got a real good idea of who's going to take the next shot and who's not going to take it. I think this is all test runs and dry runs for what's about to come.
• 36:42
  It's changing so fast, so fast that know they wanted the agenda 02/1930 and all that stuff. They're trying to limit the population of this world. They're not going to come out and tell you that, but they're trying to limit the population of it. So now we've got computers that'll do most of the work of what people will do. We need over billions of people on this planet anymore.
• 37:08
  Turns out we don't. They're not gonna come out and tell you they're gonna kill half of you off. They're just gonna do it slowly.
• 37:14
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Exactly. So a lot of the folks that are watching, you know, follow what I do and then watch the show, they're already well into this journey of of, you know, putting food away and and they're, you know, a lot of them I've I've spoken to at different conferences. We're not gonna say, look, you know, I listen to your podcast, and actually, you you helped me kinda have the confidence and the courage to sell our little condo and move into the country, and now we're on three acres and we're raising chickens. So there's some amazing stories about people being proactive.
• 37:43
  But I think that one of the areas that I find that I'm consistently learning more, in fact, I can never learn enough, is just the fundamentals of preparedness and and learning how to manage your your food systems and everything from that perspective. And so, you know, coming from your background, I mean, you're you're someone that lives and breathes food preparedness. So what are some pointers that you can give people? Someone comes to you and they say, look, Clayton, I've I've been studying this for a long time. I know what's happening with with the with the UN, the WAF, and my husband has finally said, okay, here's a little bit of money to put towards, you know, preparedness and food supply.
• 38:26
  And they come to you and they how would you guide them? How what would you walk them through? What do you recommend for people? I mean, what is there a particular, say, a calculation you'd use to say, hey. Whether it's six months or twelve months or hey, how much food should people have?
• 38:40
  What are some pointers that you have for folks?
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Can I tell you a quick story?
• 38:45
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, please do. I love stories.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Like I was telling you earlier, there were kind of two things that got us into this business a couple of years ago. We had kids and that got me maybe three reasons. Had kids and I realized there was more people to take care of than just myself. I was working on those farms and watching the pesticides being sprayed on all this stuff, we wonder why we're dying or getting cancer at 30 and dying at 40. I mean, this is it right here.
• 39:11
  And then the other thing was I had ordered food from another company before I even did any of this. I won't say who that company was, but it was being promoted as a year's worth of food. And when I got it to my house, I mean, it was just a couple of little containers and one year's worth of food. What they had done is nobody regulates serving size in this industry. So they were saying three sixty five days out of the year, you need three servings of food.
• 39:41
  They failed to tell you that a serving was a tablespoon of rice, We know that's not going to work. Really the calories are the big thing. And it was only, I want to say four, four and a half months worth of calories to support me. I was told it was a year's worth of food. That scares me a little bit because there's a lot of people out there that have bought this stuff that don't have what they think they have.
• 40:06
  That same time, we were remodeling a bathroom at our house. And I bought, maybe I shouldn't even say the name, but I'll tell you their tagline is buy it for looks, it for life. And I bought this faucet, stuck it in the bathroom, and about a week later it was leaking. So I called a buddy of mine over and said, Hey, man, what did I do wrong here? I'm not a plumber.
• 40:32
  And he took the faucet off and he goes, You bought this from Lowe's, didn't you? And I said, Yeah. He goes, go to the plumbing supply house and buy it. He goes, it'll look like the exact same faucet, but what they sell at Lowe's and what they sell at the supply house are two different things. One of them is filled with plastics on the inside, the other one's filled has brass parts.
• 40:55
  I'd always laughed from then. And I'd still think about this occasionally, buy it for looks, it for life, just don't buy it from Lowe's. You're getting what you pay for. These companies have figured out how to make two different products. That they can sell in the big box store and one that they can sell at the plumbing supply house that may cost you $100 more, but it's going to last for life.
• 41:19
  Survival food is the same way. I look at a lot of our competitors all the time, we get people calling us all the time, well, I can buy a year's worth of food for $200 Like, no, you can't. I can promise you that food's cheaper at the grocery store because it hasn't been freeze dried, it hasn't been packaged in Mylar bags. Go to the grocery store and tell me if you can buy a year's worth of food for $200 because I can promise you another company's not doing that. If they're telling you that they're lying.
• 41:48
  A lot of the stuff we get is people will compare another bucket to one of our buckets. And you start looking at what's inside this bucket and it's filled with rice and filled with beans. And there's nothing wrong with having rice and beans. Don't buy them from me, go to Walmart, buy them from there. There's no sense in paying all that money for rice and beans to put in the bucket.
• 42:12
  What they do is they call them filler items in this industry. They fill the buckets up with the rice and beans and make you feel like you're getting something really special. It's not, go Walmart and buy that stuff. Our meals and our buckets are true meals, true entrees. Don't fill them with garbage, we don't put any drink mixes in there like they're true meals, organic bucket is true organic meals.
• 42:38
  But back to kind of what you were saying there is people ask how much food do I need? Obviously that depends on a budget, because you can't buy enough food or you can't store enough food to last a lifetime. Howard However, I think it's very important to have at least six months worth of food. And even if you've got to do it a couple months at a time, I think six months is where people need to be. Part of that is, again, say we don't have enough time anymore to grow a garden or something like that.
• 43:06
  If you've got at least six months worth of food and a place to plant a garden, that gives you time to get a garden in the ground and get things going. The water filtration and the storage is a huge thing. Like we talked about earlier, you can last two weeks without food, you only last a couple of days without water. We've got water bricks on the website, we've got water filtration bottles, and this is all stuff that I've used. Seth, there's nothing I hate more than when you walk into a store and you got 50 different choices like, one do I need?
• 43:39
  Which one works? Which one doesn't work? Everything on that website is what I personally use in my own home. The water bricks are three and a half gallon containers. I've tried the 50 gallon drums.
• 43:52
  Have you ever moved a 50 gallon drum of water? Andy Impossible. Sucks. My 10 year old can carry a three and a half gallon jug of water. Can stick it under the bed, we can move them from room to room, they're easy to fill.
• 44:08
  Doesn't last forever. So when it comes time to empty them and refill them, I'm not draining 50 gallons of water out in the street, we're dumping three and a half gallons into the yard. And I'll be honest with you, I don't always keep those things full either. When we were living in Florida, you could see when a hurricane was coming. I call home, tell my wife, fill them up.
• 44:29
  The water filtration bottles there and all that stuff, the pump to pure. I've looked at these huge systems to filter water. That's not logical. Can afford it and you got the room, it's great. But 90% of us live in a suburban area, we don't have the room for this stuff.
• 44:48
  So all those little bottles right there could save your life. We pay for health insurance, car insurance, and house insurance. How many people have left out food insurance?
• 45:01
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• 45:25
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• 46:02
  And make sure you use promo code Seth, s e t h, to get a nice discount on your purchase.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: And it's one of those things you don't get a second chance to do this. If it gets bad and it gets ugly out, don't get to hit a redo or a start over. If you wreck your car, don't get to go buy you can go buy a new car. If you're out of food, you're up the creek without a paddle. You're done at that point, you're standing in a soup line somewhere.
• 46:31
  And standing in soup lines, I look at what's going on in Gaza right now with those food drops. Can you imagine that being in this country? I honestly believe it's coming. We're looking at that. We're looking at that happening in the cities.
• 46:43
  We're looking at that happening in the suburban areas, waiting on food drops. But back to you were saying, I think six months is a good start. I know that we've really upped ours around our house, especially after COVID. Got really nervous. And never took food home.
• 47:00
  I own a food company. You know what I mean? Like, we'll run down there and get some buckets if we need them. Two years ago was the first time that I actually took the food home myself because it was getting hard to find. Because the price was going up, I mean, it was just every time we made more food, it was another 45% more than it was the last time.
• 47:21
  So, I mean, we took, I don't know, probably 400 or 500 buckets home. Again, I can go off anywhere on this thing. But Seth, I'll tell you what amazed me is we're working with a guy right now that builds bunkers.
• 47:34
  Seth Holehouse: Really?
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: You would be shocked at who we're sending food to, shocked. And we haven't sent it to these guys, but you can read this in the news. Mark Zuckerberg is building bunkers under his house. How do you say this guy? Is it RuPaul?
• 47:51
  You read that article? The transgender
• 47:54
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, yeah. RuPaul, I think.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Just came out and said that they're building a massive bunker in Wyoming on their ranch, anticipating a civil war in the country. The elites have already figured this out. I mean, they're dumping their own stocks and their businesses at alarming rates. They're cashing out and they're building bunkers. Not that they need to cash out to build the bunker, but I just don't think they trust where the stock market's at, where the dollar's at.
• 48:25
  Gets coming and Middle America is going be left behind. A lot of people are waking up though. Lot of people are starting to wake up, but it's alarming at how fast it's going. We all laughed at bricks, they're never going to do that. Yeah, they're doing it.
• 48:40
  And if we think inflation is bad right now, wait till that trillions of dollars from overseas that nobody wants to use anymore, starts to make it way back to the American shores. We haven't seen inflation yet. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets better. And honestly, I think it needs to get worse before it gets better. I think we're so corrupt as a country, we need a reset.
• 49:02
  Seth Holehouse: I agree. Yeah. And to me, the reset is the corrupt infrastructure collapsing, and when we have to build something new on the other side, which means we have to survive that process of that infrastructure. Because even though it's corrupt, it still feeds us. It protects us.
• 49:17
  It delivers energy to us. And one thing I wanted to mention, though, that you said is is interesting because I considered you know, when I was looking for a survival food company to work with because I've been considering it for quite some time because it's something I believe in. Like, I don't have a whole lot of affiliates, but if I do, this thing I believe in. Gold and silver, I believe in. Like, I don't have money in the stock market.
• 49:37
  I'm I'm absolutely a %. And I remember researching a bunch of the big name food companies, and once I started looking closer though, you could see, oh, wow. Okay. Well, they're cheaper. They're the cheapest per calorie, and and oh, they're the cheapest per serving.
• 49:53
  And these are see, well, the calories are high because they're including sugary drinks in these. And so you get, you know, a little bit of rice and beans and a 500 calorie Kool Aid. It's like, well, that's not what you need if if your immune system's already, you know, stressed from survival and all that. And it was once I I I came across you guys, it was just such a natural fit, but you made a good point though. And this is, I think, it's not just about, oh, go buy a bunch of food buckets from heaven's harvest.
• 50:19
  It's about knowing that your food supply is secure. And my the first place that I would always start with anybody is just rice and beans, and it's like, don't go to heaven's harvest for that. Go to Costco. Go to Sam's Club. That's exactly what we did.
• 50:33
  Right? Like, my first thing was not going and buying a bunch of freeze dried food. My first thing was going to Tractor Supply where you can buy the food grade five gallon buckets with the with the food grade lids, go there, and we bought a bunch from Azure Market, you know, hard red wheat, dried beans. I'd go go to Costco, and I'd buy 300 pounds of rice. Right?
• 50:53
  Where this is two or three years ago, so you could get 300 pounds of rice for, you know, a hundred and $50 or, you know, whatever it was. I was buying, you know, 20 pound bags of rice for $11. And so I take that, I transfer it all to these five gallon buckets, I throw in a a big o two packet, hammer it shut, and there there you go. Twenty five years that that that rice is gonna sit there. So that's where I'd always start, but with a lot of what you do, and I'll I'll pull the website again shortly, is it's rounding that out because I found it was really difficult to figure out, okay, how do we get protein that's gonna last?
• 51:28
  You can buy canned tuna and stuff, and we bought a freeze dryer. So we have a harvest right freeze dryer, and so I've got you know, we've we've probably freeze dried maybe a thousand or 2,000 eggs, as an example. Right? So because we have chickens, and we bought way too many chickens because we're stressed out. We're like, okay, let's get 50 chickens for a family of three.
• 51:45
  Right? So it's like, we had eggs coming out of the cracks. So they're like, what do I do with all of them? And I was water glassing. That's not gonna work.
• 51:52
  There's too many. So we bought a freeze dryer. So I was like, okay. I can get a hundred eggs in one batch of of freeze dryer. So that was a good solution.
• 52:00
  Then we had, I kept buying quarter cows and stuff. So we'd start freeze drying beef. And so that was our own way. But it's it's there's a whole strategy to it, certainly.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: No, there absolutely is. No, you're, and I mean, it sounds like you've really done your homework and research about that the right way. But I mean, just nailed the hell I tell everybody to do it. Know what I mean? Go to Costco, get your rice and beans.
• 52:23
  Like what we're selling is the meal. You know what mean? Add the rice and the beans to these meals. You don't wanna live off of rice and beans, I promise. I know half the world's population lives off of rice and beans and we can go back to the nitrogen.
• 52:36
  They're about to put a stop to the rice patties. But everybody listening has been in a stressful situation. You know what I mean? Like everybody's had a bad day at work or a bad day at school, or when you get home and there's a good meal waiting for you, like the worries are gone. You know what I mean?
• 52:56
  Like that good meal is what we wanna provide. Know what mean? Because if you're in a survival situation, you're going to be stressed. You know what I mean? Like we wanted something that was that tasted good that everybody would eat.
• 53:08
  When we put these together, if my two daughters liked them, they were good for me because they're pretty dang picky. So we changed and altered and moved this and did that and tried this. And like I said, if the girls liked them, then they passed the test and we put them in the bucket. But we've gotten rid of the rice and the beans and the drink mixes and all that, buy that somewhere else. Don't need that.
• 53:34
  You're paying an overinflated price for that. Get that somewhere else. We've got just the meals that you can mix in with the rice and the beans.
• 53:44
  Seth Holehouse: You made also a really important point in saying that a lot of people think, I know I've kind of been through this process myself that, okay, well, if I'm buying food for storage, I can buy cheap food because as long as there's some food, I'm not gonna starve to death. And so they'll think that, you know, maybe they're eating really healthy day to day, but there's this idea that, well, those storage buckets, they aren't really that high quality, but they're still calories. And in a in a situation where there is no food, I guess that's true. Yes. You're you're better off having you're better off having edible cardboard if if if there is such a thing, or even insect powder.
• 54:18
  If there's no food at all, you're better off with anything. But I think it's an important point to make is that if you're in a situation where you need to be tapping into your long term food storage, your stress levels are gonna be very high. You're probably not gonna have access to medication or or antibiotics in the way that you would normally. There's gonna be all kinds of other factors that are really stressing your body physiologically and mentally and emotionally. Like, that's the time where you wanna be able to pull out organic beef or really good vegetables or or a big tub, a big, you know, kind of can of freeze dried strawberries or, you know, something that's high in vitamin c.
• 55:03
  That's when you really need to have the highest quality food set aside, not the not the junk that you can buy. It's like because I see these I'm part of all kinds of prepping groups and on Facebook and whatnot, and you'll see them like, oh, Costco had, you know, Froot Loops on sale. So I bought I bought all these Froot Loops, and you look at these people's supplies, and it's, like, GMO pesticide laden, this stuff that I wouldn't I wouldn't feed my dog. Right? And of course, I'm not it's still food, right?
• 55:33
  But I think that it would be careful about having this mentality that, well, the survival stuff can be whatever it's going to give me the calories.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did it. I'm guilty of it. I did it. Like, that's why I'm in this business now because I bought the cheap stuff once. And if the day comes and I need it, that's not what I want.
• 55:59
  That's not what I want to feed my family. Like I said earlier, buy it from looks, buy it for life, just don't buy it from Lowe's. I see so many people like, You can buy it at Costco for $30 You're getting $30 worth of stuff. These companies have manipulated these buckets to fit that price range at Costco to sell as many of them as they can. You're getting what you pay for.
• 56:24
  I know more than once in my life, I've bought something thinking, Man, I wish I'd spent the extra $50 and got the good one. And again, this is for a survival situation. Isn't a get another chance at it. Is a one and done. If you don't have what you need, you're in trouble.
• 56:43
  And like I said, in the beginning when we started this, it was for hurricanes. I was looking for beer. And now that there's a family to take care of, sit there and watch your kids start and let me know how that feels. I mean, it's happening in Gaza today, it's happening all over the world, happened in Sri Lanka, It's happened in South America. And again, like we said earlier, we think that this stuff won't come onto American soil.
• 57:10
  It's headed this way. It's going to happen here. I can't tell you if it'll happen tomorrow or next month or ten years from now, but it's going to happen. So I think it's super important to be prepared. The sooner you start this, the more time you have to do it.
• 57:28
  When 2020 it was I'm sure you can only imagine it went crazy. And it was people that we had sold stuff to before in the past three or four years earlier. I'm thinking, man, if like we got a food club, know what I mean? If once a month just stick a bucket away, stick a bucket away, stick a bucket away. It's one of those things you don't have to think about.
• 57:51
  But where we're at now, I don't know if you've got a month to a month, you may wanna move sooner than later right now.
• 57:59
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, I agree. So I'll pull up the website, just heavensharvest.com. We do have a promo code Seth, s e t h, they get 15% off, which is that's a lot. I mean, a lot of places will give you 5%, maybe a 10% discount. 15%.
• 58:15
  So here, for instance, you know, twelve week kit, which is really it's about a hundred bucks a week for a person if if you're if you're kinda costing these out. And it's helpful because it's it's also really important that you know that you can trust the calories on this, and you're not having to independently audit that and find out that you thought you bought six months for three people, and it ends up you've got three months for three people. We don't wanna be in that situation. The other thing that I will also highlight in here is your heirloom seeds, and this is something that is really important to us, and we've we've created a whole we have a whole probably 30 or 40 gallon tub with all of our seeds organized and packaged and and with with, you know, little Mylar packages, and we've taken the seed preservation really seriously. And I've got a couple of your kits as well, and I think that a lot of people, think that all they can just use the seeds they get from the grocery store.
• 59:02
  They pull them, you know, dry them out of the tomato. Those aren't heirloom. They're they're made to not germinate. They will not allow you to have a second year's crop, whereas everything that you guys do, these are these are heirlooms. And I love how you even have this this seed share kit, and that's this is the perfect thing.
• 59:18
  I I love this idea that it's here you go. So for those who like us to share their seed kit with a friend or family, this is a great thing. Also there's people I'll just throw kind of caveat to this. There's folks that have thought, what do I do in this situation where there is this collapse? And can I be the person that can turn away a starving neighbor?
• 59:38
  And, yeah, that that's a difficult thing to think through, and I hope that we never get to that place. But one thing that I know that Scott Kesterson with Bards FM is really big about this, and I I follow him quite a bit, is helping people to gain independence. So even with his little seed share kits, if someone comes to you and you can give them, you know, maybe you're able to give them five pounds of rice, but you're able to give them a little seed kit and say, look, here's here's corn, tomatoes, and potatoes, get these in the ground. That's one of the best things you can do for people.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: We haven't really talked about that a whole lot. But that's when that became obvious to me. You'll never be able to put enough storable food away to last a lifetime. Never going to happen. I mean, you'd need warehouses full of food.
• 1:00:26
  So it's never going to happen. $139 bucket of seed or that $300 bucket of seed, there's enough seeds in there to last a lifetime of food. And that's a lot of people look at that kit and they think, well, I can buy a bag of seeds. You got time for another story?
• 1:00:44
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, please do. Oh, yeah, I'm loving it.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: My own father called me last year. My own father called me last year and said, Hey, can you send me some seeds? And I said, Yeah, why? He goes, Oh, I ordered some from Amazon. And when they showed up here, there were four stinking seeds in the pack.
• 1:01:08
  I went, Dad, are you serious? Like, your own son owns a seed company and you went to Amazon? Because I don't know. He goes, it's just where I go to shop. Like, could you deliver it?
• 1:01:20
  It was $2.99 and they sent it to me the next day. And you got four seeds. Again, this is the big box stores. This is what you deal with. Our packs of seeds, there's 500 to 1,000 to 2,000, three thousand seeds in those packs.
• 1:01:38
  They are loaded up. Is not what you're gonna buy at your local hardware store. They're in Mylar bags, they're not coming in paper bags. If you wanna drop a bucket in the freezer, most of the seeds in there will last up to ten years if you leave them in the freezer. Again, that's that's security, that's safety.
• 1:01:58
  For $139 it's something you can throw in there and you know it's there. Every four or five years, get you a new bucket just to be safe. And like I said, that share kit, these aren't the seed bags you buy at the hardware store. These are Mylar bags that are made to last, protect against radiation and all that, they protect against moisture. And there's plenty in there to split up among your family.
• 1:02:25
  You could probably split that bucket up 10 different ways to be honest with you and still have more seeds than you're gonna buy in individual packs at the local hardware store. That bucket of seed is a lifetime of food. I mean, it's literally a lifetime of food. Every one of those seeds you can re harvest from the crops, dry them out and use them again the following year. So that bucket could multiply to 100 pounds worth of seeds off of just what's in that bucket.
• 1:02:54
  So that's really important. I'll tell you what, like I know, because I was listening to your last podcast, go
• 1:03:01
  Seth Holehouse: to
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  Speaker 2: a commercial farm and see what you're eating. You'll quit going to the grocery store.
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  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, exactly. And then you make a point though, too, is that the, you know, one of those seed kits after after some some years of being grown and then, you know, harvesting the seeds, you could feed a village off of that. And it just it's what God's given us. God's given us so much bounty in food. It's amazing to see that, that you grow one thing and, you know, one plant, what you know, whatever it is, and you look at all the seeds you can pull off of that, you can grow a hundred plants the next year.
• 1:03:32
  You can grow grow 5,000 the next year, 50,000. I mean, it's amazing how this multiplies, but there's a lot of knowledge even knowing how to how to preserve seeds, how to store seeds, how to germinate them properly. Like, you know, there's Amazon for seeds that that your your dad got. If he's lucky, two will germinate. If he's lucky of those two that germinate, you know, one, you know, that one of them will actually survive to being a real plant.
• 1:03:57
  And if he's lucky, it'll actually bring fruit in Harvey and harvest fruit or vegetable at the end of its that season. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. No, it's that's the truth too. Know, it's and I'll you what's funny is we get a lot of people that are learning to do this, you know what I mean? They're good. Again, they've heard us talk and you know, you know, and I'm really, it's really cool, like this generation, like generation X and Z and like, we've thought about as a worthless generation.
• 1:04:27
  And they have shown more interest in learning to grow their own stuff, learning to take care of themselves than the last two generations. So we're dealing with a lot of that stuff. It's crazy because they've completely grown up on GMOs and hybrids, that's all they know. They start planting these heirlooms and we'll get calls back like a tomato, this is what a tomato really tastes like. This is what a pepper really tastes like.
• 1:04:58
  The stuff you're buying in the grocery store, they're hybrids or GMOs, they're made to look great, big and red. It may not taste like anything, but they look real pretty sitting on the shelf. They grow an heirloom tomato and it's like kind of weird looking and, this is what a tomato looks like. I promise that's what a tomato is supposed to look like. Give it a try.
• 1:05:18
  And I mean, it's the phone calls you get, man, I can't believe it tastes like the corn is crazy. Like, cantaloupe, holy cow, you know, don't need ranch dressing all over this stuff to eat it. Like it actually tastes like something without dressing like, yeah, it's pretty cool stuff.
• 1:05:34
  Seth Holehouse: It is.
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  Speaker 2: If you got a family, like that's what's been really cool. Just getting the girls back, like teaching the girls this stuff along the way. You know what I mean? Like it's A lot of the kids I go to school with have no idea where their food comes from, no idea. So, I mean, to be able to teach them that and teach me that, we grew up with it and I forgot it for twenty years.
• 1:05:56
  So I'm learning it again too. But it's been fun. It's been a lot of fun.
• 1:06:01
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. One of my favorite memories is, last kind of summer, fall time, my little daughter who was two and a half to three at that time, seeing her just as we, you know, we had, you know, berries everywhere, you know, blueberry bushes and raspberries and strawberries. We had I think we bought, like, 400 strawberry plants. I mean, we kind of went we got, you know, just like the root the the the bare roots. But just seeing her just scour the garden, she comes she comes back, and she's just covered in strawberries, and she's got strawberries everywhere and blueberries everywhere.
• 1:06:33
  Her face is stained, and and but she's just the happiest thing ever. And that's the that's the it's it's it's actually it's a beautiful thing. I I found that with her, even if I get her to help pack her lunch for, you know, her little gymnastics class or whatever it is, that when she gets involved in it, she loves it, and she wants to eat it, she wants to participate. And so, you know, planting and harvesting, hey, let's go let's go pick a bunch of, you know, tomatoes, and let's go dig up potatoes. That was one of her favorite things to do is dig up potatoes, and she's in these big holes covered in dirt, finding potatoes and it's just precious.
• 1:07:09
  There's so much joy in it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree. I'll tell you what the changes subject here real quick. A lot of this stuff we're talking about harvesting seeds and canning and all that. All those books on that site too are like to tell you I read them, I just looked at the pictures, but my wife read them. She's a reader.
• 1:07:29
  And those are all books that she has preferred that are the ease like the square foot gardening and all that. I mean, if you're in a suburban area, that's a great book for learning how to utilize space.
• 1:07:41
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, that book helped us a lot square foot gardening.
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  Speaker 2: But those are the books that's And again, we didn't want to put 10 books of the exact same thing on there. Those are the books that have helped us out the most. So we've gotten rid of the kind of one book for each category. You know, and they're the best ones we found and that we use the most.
• 1:08:02
  Seth Holehouse: Oh, great. Great. Well, Clayton, it's, it's been such a pleasure speaking with you. I'll remind folks that and I'll put the links in the description, but it's heavensharvest.com. And using promo code Seth, s e t h, you get 15% off.
• 1:08:17
  And I I couldn't agree more to that six month idea that, you know, make that the goal. Obviously, if you can have a year or two years, great. And it looking into folks can only afford a month or three months, they're still better off than probably 98% of the population just, you know, just just to get to that place. So I just I thank you for what you're doing. I thank you for standing behind what you're providing with people.
• 1:08:42
  It's I I personally know it's great food. It tastes good. It's it's quality, and it's it's great having you. I look forward to you coming back on. Actually, it's real fun to talk to you, and it gives me an excuse to wear my flannel for a show, which I always appreciate.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: We didn't do this on purpose either. It just worked out that way.
• 1:08:58
  Seth Holehouse: It did. It did. Well, Clayton, take care, man. God bless and just enjoy the rest of your week and we'll be in touch. Thank you for coming on.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Seth, I appreciate it. Thank you.