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Bring The Thunder - Russ Discussions, Off-Season Moves, and More! · Bring The Thunder Podcast

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What's going on, Thunder fans? Welcome back to your weekly
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episode of the Bring the Thunder podcast.
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I am here with the Thunder coverage, Jack.
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Today we got a few segments we're going to go over.
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Obviously, we like to get right into it first.
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We're just going to grade the thunders offseason moves,
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starting with drafting Thomas Sorber.
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So I'll let you Jack grade first.
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It hasn't changed since draft night.
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So I I got him as an A same reasons really, just but what we
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needed what we got good value again with an injury, but we
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haven't seen him play summer league.
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So this Nah, nothing has happened to make it go up or
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down. But I am a big fan of his
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defensive upside and yeah, good pick.
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Yeah. I'm a I'm a fan as well of the
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upside offensively and defensively showed a little
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promise shooting the ball mid range, obviously extremely long
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shot blocker and protects the paint.
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Could be, you know, the next Hartenstein for us.
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Hopefully. I think that's the idea.
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I believe on draft I had to add it's like a BABB plus something
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like that. I think it's going to stay
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there. Like you said, we haven't seen
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summer league out of him. He didn't play, but I he looks
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like a prospect that would fit with this team, which is
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exactly, you know, what OKC needs is just more players to
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fit their role on this team for now.
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So yeah, I I think BB Plus sounds about right and I'm
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looking, looking forward to seeing him soon.
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The next one is trading Nick Clifford or the 24th pick into
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the future. I think on draft night I gave an
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A minus and my reasoning was what else were we meant to do
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right? Like we had to trade it anyway.
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But now seeing Nick Clifford play summer league, it's gone
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down to AB because some of me is wondering how maybe Nick
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Clifford might be more of an impact than Jang is right now
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for us or how we could turn into a better player.
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So part of me is thinking, oh, if we just wave Jang and kept
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Nick Clifford, but still be like, we still got a first round
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pick in the future and you can't be too mad at it.
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But yeah, he's it was a pretty good pick by the Kings in the
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end. Yeah, good, good pick for the
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kings. Well, it looks like it's going
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to be anyway draft night. I had it as an incomplete grade.
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I I still kind of do. I mean, I can't really grade
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these until I I see, you know, Nick played really good in in
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summer league, but got to translate into, you know,
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regular season and and real minutes.
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So I'm going to keep it incomplete.
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Again, like you said, not much rostrum at all on this team.
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And I feel like OK, C wanted to go with, you know, they want
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another route for a reason. I think they believe in this
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guy. And that kind of brings us right
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into our next grade drafting. Brooks Barnheiser.
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I'll let you. I'll leave that one to you
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again. Before I begin, I want to say
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it's relative to like, it's not relative to the other one.
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So if Sorber gets an A Barnheiser isn't relative to
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Sorber, it's relative to pick, whatever second round pick.
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So I have, I haven't been an A+, which has gone up since draft
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night, which I believe is an A. But watching that summer league,
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I'm just like, this guy's going to be in the league for a long
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time. He's going to be a good role
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player. I mean, a second round pick,
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right? Like what?
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This is like a on the Aaron Wiggins level of second round
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picks. Like this is a great second
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round pick for shaping up, shaping up to be a great second
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round pick. This is obviously a summer
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league of reaction, but man, like what He was averaging 7
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seals for a solid 2-3 game stretch there in summer league.
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Like As for the second round picks, I think A+ because we
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couldn't have done any better. So that that's my reasoning for
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an A+. But like I said, Silver's an A
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and he's an A+, but they're different, different
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relativities. Right to to the pick itself.
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I honestly don't remember what I had this this graded as whatever
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it was, it's going to be higher now.
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I'd still say like BI think he's you know, he plays really hard
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plays good defense, you know knows he's a smart player.
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He says a lot to, you know, refine and refurbish but and
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develop. But I could see it.
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I could see why you think this could be on the Aaron Wiggins
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level type draft, you know, second round pick when you're in
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OK C if you play hard like this guy, you become a fan favorite
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pretty quickly. So I believe that will be him,
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especially being on a two way, hopefully, you know, getting
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some minutes as we're dominating teams throughout the season.
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So I like it. I'm going to keep it as AB, but
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I have yeah, like I'm I'm rooting for the guy for sure.
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It's also good that like we're in a spot where we're not
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relying on this pic. So makes me feel a bit better.
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Next up is trading Dylan Jones. Sad to see him go, but we didn't
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see much from him during the season and we needed that roster
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spot for Thomas Sorber so I gave it an A.
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We had to give up a second round pick, which isn't great and we
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already gave 5 second round picks to acquire him in the 1st
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place. So basically one year of Dylan
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Jones cost 6 second round picks, which I'm not a fan of, but he
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shot his press, he shot a shot. At least he moved on when he did
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because you wouldn't. You wouldn't want Jang and Dylan
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Jones taking up two roster spots because they could be something
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and just not the fans getting frustrated with that.
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So, right, yeah, just an A. He did what he needed to do.
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Yeah, he he was, you know, he was good for the team last year.
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Obviously, roster spots are are hard to come by right now in OK
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C and somebody had to be the odd man out.
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Jones ended up being that guy. I don't really have a grade for
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this. It just had to be done.
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It's kind of irrelevant. I mean, we love Dylan Jones as
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OK C fans, but I feel like it's just, you know, somebody had to
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go and it was going to be somebody that didn't really play
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and have much effect on the team.
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So I'm not going to end up reading this one kind of just
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it's a fine move. It had to be done.
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Next I have extending Shay. I think this is going to be
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we've talked a lot about it, but a plus obviously, I don't know
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sound like a broken record, but is we did what we have to do
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again, MVP what, not give him the money?
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Yeah, yeah, pretty simple. Definitely give him the money,
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lock him up as long as you can anytime you can extend that's
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top two NBA player and you know, not let him get to free agency
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like we have in the past is a great feeling.
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He's only getting, you know, he hasn't even reached his full
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peak yet, which is crazy to think about.
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Yeah, A+. What else can you say?
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The guy's a magician with the ball, a great player, a great
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human and a great leader for OK C and he's already got US1 chip.
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Now we got what, five more, five more six more years of this.
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So sign me up for that for sure. Next up is extending shit.
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I have an A so did what we needed to do.
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Had to lock him in, give him the the Max.
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I'll go with it. But it's it gets a bit tricky
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with the cap space and everything we've been talking
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about. But he's not quite on the same
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level as he's not quite on the same level as extending Shay, I
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don't think. Yeah, I agree.
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I actually gave this 1A minus, which is still a great, great
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grade, don't get me wrong, But I feel like Chut is extremely
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valuable to this team. We don't win anything without
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him. And obviously he hasn't even he
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he's played two seasons, right? So like 1 1/2 really.
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He had one full season and he was out this year.
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He was out his whole rookie year.
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So that's the only like kind of thing where it's like, OK,
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you're you're maxing out a guy who's only had one healthy
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season out of three. But I mean, if he stays healthy,
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he's one of the better players in the NBA.
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So sign him up again for till about 203031.
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Keep the team intact. A minus for me.
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Next up we have exciting Jada. I have an ad as well.
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He's second best player, 40 points in the final.
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You know, just the man, I guess. But I did what we have to do.
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Again, I think that's this offseason has just been just
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doing what we have to do. It's been very predictable and I
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impressed he hasn't screwed it up even though it'd be pretty
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hard to. But yeah, I.
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Was going to say predictable is a good thing here, but I, I gave
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this an A plus. I, I love Jalen Williams again,
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another guy who's only played three seasons now.
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So yeah, he was drafted with Chet, a plus for me because he
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he's not, he hasn't even scratched the surface yet and
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he's already put a 40 point game up in the finals.
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He's already one of our better playmakers on the team.
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He's super athletic, all NBA all defense, all NBA All Star 20
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about 2425 points per game in the finals.
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Fantastic Rd. play against Minnesota and Indiana.
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It doesn't get much better than J Dub in the league period.
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And you know, locking him in as well to 203031 keeping his big
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three together. It's an A+, this guy.
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I expect we'll get into that a little bit later, but I expect
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another huge jump from him next year to shoot him up into, you
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know, superstar, superstar area and lock him up to a plus move
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for sure. Extending AJ Mitchell, I have AB
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Plus. I think the contract is, is it
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three years, $9 million, which I think is really cheap for, for
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what he is. I mean, he was really good last
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season. Hopefully, I mean, obviously
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he'll get better because he was a rookie, but I think especially
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when his contracts kick in, he'll he'll be very valuable to
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us on their contract. So I'm going to beat past.
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Yeah, I, I like this one as well.
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I'm going to say Aaj showed a lot of potential in the summer
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league for sure. I mean, he looked too good for
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summer League almost. He showed a lot of potential in
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the regular season last year. Obviously had that foot injury,
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kept him up a while, wasn't able to finish out the regular
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season, came back in the play offs, but irrelevant minutes
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really. But including last year, you're
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pretty much getting four years of AJ Mitchell for $9 million
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total. Great signing, great contract,
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team friendly. And if he blossoms into a great
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backup point guard to Shay, I mean, look out.
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He also has shown that he could score, play, make, shoot the
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ball. Four years, 9 million pretty
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much, I'll take that for sure. Definitely extending Jalen
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Williams. Yeah, well, Jay will.
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I don't say the other Jalen Williams.
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Yeah, I have it as an A again, just doing what we need to do.
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He's a big piece of of the puzzle.
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Just a glue guy, really. Like, it'd be pretty sad to see
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him on another team, quite frankly, I don't think I could
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picture it. So it's really good to see him
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back and hopefully he'll stop Yokich again.
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Yeah, no way we could have let him walk.
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He kind of earned that. You know, he got 324, right?
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Three years, 24 mil. He kind of earned that extra
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like 2,000,000 per year in that Denver series.
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We could have gotten this guy back cheaper, but he came up
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huge in in that Denver series guarding Yokich big time threes,
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obviously a triple double machine when he starts in the
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regular season. So getting him back ultimate
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glue guy really good player. It it it needed to happen.
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I was you know, I would have been very concerned if it didn't
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happen. So yeah, keeping him with just
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great. I'll give.
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With every penny yeah, next resigning Brandon Carlson to his
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second two way contract. I have a bit of a joke, but a
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plus plus. I think he's got to be one of
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the best two way players in the league who I mean he's he's too
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good for two way really like he could be a rotational big man.
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We saw against the Cavs game like but getting him back like
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our two way is stacked at the moment.
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So I just, yeah, incredible job to get him back.
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Yeah, bring the Thunder here. Loves Brandon Carlson, diehards
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over here, a A+. This guy, like you said, is not
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a two way player, but he is for our team.
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We're able to do it. You know, had him on a two way
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last year, got him back on a two way, which I don't think I was
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really expecting. You know, good depth piece to
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have in case, you know, something crazy goes down.
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Showed flashes like you said in the game against Cleveland.
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Played very good and like the couple games he played in the
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summer league this year, outstanding getting them back on
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a two way. Really didn't think it was going
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to happen. But to round the segment off, we
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have the 2 two ways that we let walk Flagler and Ducas.
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It's pretty relevant, a bit like the Dylan Jones, right?
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But pretty hard to grade really. But it's cool to see Duke is
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going back to Australia and I think Flagler went to Atlanta
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for the summer league. So hopefully he can land a two
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way spot or a real spot there. But I think I'm just going to go
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for a combined grade here of B. Not much to it, but it just
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happened really. Yeah.
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Again, it's like you don't necessarily need to grade these.
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There will always be Alex Dukas day and Adam Flagler day in OK
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C, which is great. But I I'm not not to, you know,
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crap on these guys, but I think our two ways coming in this year
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a little bit stronger. Dukas is going back.
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He's playing. Where's he playing again, Jack?
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Christian Billets. There you go.
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There you go. And Flagler, I mean, he's going
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to go try to get a two way in Atlanta or Spot.
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Wished I'd done but the best. But it was just like Jones.
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It kind of had to be done. Yeah.
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All right, that wraps up the offseason move so far.
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I wanted to add one more. That hasn't happened yet.
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Maybe it will, maybe it won't. I'm not saying it will or it
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won't actually, but I just kind of wanted to talk about it.
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We're seeing all these, yeah, OG point guards go back to their
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teams. Dame resigned back in Portland,
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leaving Milwaukee after his way from Milwaukee.
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We got Chris Paul going back to the Clippers.
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There's a free agent out there that I think OKC could possibly
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get on a vet man. What are the odds of Westbrook
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gets step back to OK CI mean? I'm sure everybody would love
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it. The energy would be insane.
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You'd be a great mentor for the guards on this team.
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Super young guards. I just think it needs to get
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done at this point. No excuses here for me.
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I'm not quite on the same same train as you, I think.
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I mean, watching him last year, I think he still has one or two
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more seasons of being a rotational competitive player,
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which I don't think we can provide him at the moment.
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But I'm all for him coming back and sitting on the bench, you
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know, retiring as a Thunder, like a bit like Adonis Haslam in
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his last season. But I'm just not a fan of
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bringing him back now just because he used to play with us
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and then take away the minutes from Tobitch AJ, who we need to
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develop. And that's like what we're
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brought into our young core and building up as as a group.
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And we've invested a lot into these guys, so I wouldn't want
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to see their minutes just be stripped.
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Just. Just for a fun reunion, I guess,
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even even though it'd be really cool to see him back in OK C,
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but I don't think if he, if he comes back to OK CI, don't think
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he'll be in the rotation and I think it'll be more of just a
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farewell tour. Yeah, definitely.
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Yeah, definitely agree. We got, you know, the young guys
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to develop. I think he'd be great and
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helping those young guys develop if he was able to, you know, if
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he was willing to accept that role of, you know, like almost a
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player coach, like UD, you said. But I, I don't think he's there
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yet. I think he's still like
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competitive like we he he had a couple 30 point games last
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season if I'm not mistaken, like he was what 25 plus point games,
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but. Yeah, he started the.
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Season. He's still competing, yeah.
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There was they had Denver fans, you know, talk and they wanted
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Russ to start over Jamal Murray in the first half of the year.
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They were he was playing fantastic for them.
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But yeah, listen, I'll always leave it open.
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I'm not it would it would that'd be one of the craziest days in
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OK C history. Let me tell you about we'll see.
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I saw a report today that, oddly enough, he's NBA teams.
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Ben Simmons. Yeah, he has to sign somewhere.
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And that's slowing down Russ from, you know, slowing down
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Russ's market opening up, which makes no sense to me.
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But, yeah. But we'll see what happens with
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him. I always got my eyes on him.
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Who knows? All right.
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Next up we got, we're going to be grading OK, C jerseys, just a
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select few of mostly the alternate jerseys, but yeah,
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we're going to try to come up with a consensus tier list here.
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Yeah, let's get into it. First up, we have the 20/17/18
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City edition. Yeah.
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What do you think? For me, you guys are watching
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this transpire live here too. Jack and I really didn't, you
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know, talk about what we think about these.
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So we're kind of trying to read them equally together.
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I, I love those. I actually loved the 1718
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jerseys. I think they're a tier.
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I I thought they were great. Yeah, I I think it's probably
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one of the most unique, unique city edition jerseys we've ever
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had where they really try to use elements of the logo like the
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the spikes coming out of the the emblem.
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So, but for me it's B, but I can I can agree with A if you're not
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going to budget, but. No, I mean, I'm, I'm flexible.
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I, I loved them, but I, I actually liked a lot of these
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jerseys so. Yeah, you.
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Can throw it in be I'm looking at that.
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All right, Next up we have the 2020-2021.
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Would that be them? Yeah.
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The only thing I remember about these is Pokashewski wearing
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them. Really.
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Yes, very washed out Jersey. Not a lot of memories with that
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jersey just because of where we were at as a team.
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I actually didn't mind the jersey itself.
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What do you? In terms of jerseys, I don't
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know. In in terms of jerseys, it's
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quite a nice design. But then again, it kind of looks
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like AG League kind of design as well, but.
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GLC for me, I'm fine with legacy.
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Yeah. Also adding in that you know the
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the season itself wasn't too friendly to.
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OK, see I'm fine with AC right there all.
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Right Next up we have the 20/18/19 City Edition jerseys,
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which for me, I'll just go straight ahead, is automatically
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S tier. You got an S tier.
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I'd like to hear, I'd like to hear a rebuttal, but.
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Yeah, I enjoyed them. I think more of an A tier for
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me. Good season with them more than
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pretty often yeah. I don't have an SI have a few
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others down here on this list. I can go S not over you know not
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I can't choose that one over a few of these others.
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But if you want to throw it in S.
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I'll try persuade you as as we go on.
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We'll see. All right, Next up we have the
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20/21/22 City edition, the all white.
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What do you think about those? I absolutely love the all white.
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I I love the all white. Again, not a fantastic year for
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the team. I would love if they would bring
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them back. I know they're not going to, but
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that's S for me. I absolutely love that jersey.
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I think all white no KC looked fantastic.
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Your thoughts? Yeah, it's pretty hard to
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disconnect them from the team that they played with because
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obviously thinking of that season, there's not much not
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much highlights to it. But yeah, I can get behind S
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they're really, really smooth and clean and they don't look
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like AG league and they're unique.
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Like I think a lot of times I mean, we'll see it a bit later,
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but at jerseys are being pretty like down like looking the same
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year after year like so I think those are pretty good.
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Next up we have these ones. What do we think?
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Those jerseys, what's a good time?
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That was still Durant and Rush. I didn't hate them, I didn't
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love them. I'm fine with like an A or B
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there. They're solid jerseys.
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I would like the like the Navy ish blue.
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It was good seasons with them so B or A is fine by me.
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Yeah, I think they're quite nostalgic now.
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I'm seeing a lot of Steven Adams jerseys being sold in this,
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especially here in New Zealand. But yeah, I'm cool with BI think
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as a jersey design. They're not, they're not
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awesome. But I think there's a lot of
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letters going going down one side and not much else to it.
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It's pretty pretty basic, but. Right.
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Yeah, I'm pretty happy with B. We have this year's City
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Edition. What do we think?
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Yeah, the team loves it, seem to wear it often.
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I don't know. I don't know how much like the
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black works for OKC. We won a lot of games in them.
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What do you think? I'll, I'll deflect to you.
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I'll defer to you first. Yeah.
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I really like these because I mean, it is the third season in
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a row where we've had a black base uniform, but I think third
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time's a charm because they perfected it on this one.
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The blue on the side is really nice.
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It's got some good elements and it really utilizes the yellow,
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which is one of the OKC's colours, but we never see it.
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So I'm I'm pretty, I know I I think in between A&B, but.
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I'm I'm fine with AI think. I They're really clean and.
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This year, so I think it works. And and when, when the players
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accessorize with the black headbands, black shoes, I think
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it looks really sleek, especially on the the NBA Cup
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courts, I think. That is really good, definitely.
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Definitely. Next up we have 20/20/21 City
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Edition. Yeah, absolutely hated it.
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I think it's ugly. I date here.
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For me, I I just did not like these jerseys at all.
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Yeah, I can get behind that. I just really think of Blue Dart
25:48
when I see these jerseys. I think that's the only thing
25:52
that really comes to mind. But in terms of jerseys, they
25:55
don't really look. They just don't really look like
25:58
an NBA jersey at all. Quite basically.
26:00
Like, I don't really know what's going on, but yeah, not not the
26:06
best design. Next up we have the 20/17/2019
26:12
statement jerseys. I think for me this is very
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similar to the the city edition from that year or the year after
26:25
the one that I had an A possibly yes.
26:26
So I'm I'm around that ranch, but.
26:30
Yeah, I definitely agree. Definitely agree.
26:32
Those are salad jerseys. I'm good with a for sure.
26:38
You know, it's odd. Oddly enough, I kind of think of
26:40
like for some reason like Alex Sabrina's is like the first that
26:46
pops in my head. Shout out the goat.
26:49
He just retired. Yeah, I see it.
26:54
I see it. I see a bit more of Carmelo
26:59
maybe or Paul George. I guess that makes sense, except
27:07
we had 2019-2020 City Edition Jersey.
27:10
Or should we just call it the Chris Paul Jersey?
27:12
Really. But.
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Absolutely the Chris Paul Jersey.
27:18
I think it's going to be quite high for me because it's the
27:22
first time. Like gold is a pretty cool
27:24
color. Although yeah, I don't know.
27:29
It's It's basic but unique. Yeah, I actually like them.
27:36
When they were on the court when they originally came out with
27:38
these, I was like, I don't know, I don't know how high you would
27:44
like to go. I kind of put it in like AB or
27:49
yeah, I kind of put. It in B I'd say top of B for me,
27:53
but what do you think? Better or worse than the Gray
27:55
ones? I just love those Gray ones.
27:59
A bit below that. I thought those were fantastic.
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All right, Next up we have the 20/22/23 City edition.
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Looking back at these, I'm actually quite high on them.
28:14
Like they they weren't too bad really.
28:16
I think the grey was unique at the time and interesting touch,
28:23
but again, not a great time for OKC Thunder basketball.
28:26
But so a pretty solid jersey in my opinion.
28:30
Maybe BT? Yeah, I'm indifferent.
28:36
B sounds fine. And then last but not least,
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last season City Edition or last last season's now 2324.
28:47
I don't know how to feel about these to be honest.
28:58
I kind of like them and see. Yeah, top of sea for me, I can
29:03
see that. But.
29:03
What's my favorite? I think this year's blackout
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jerseys is a much better upgrade than, you know, this one we're
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looking at. Pretty solid list I think.
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Any any discrepancies or anything you don't like?
29:21
No, I mean, I think it's a good list.
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I do. I think it's a good list.
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Yeah, I think we've made a pretty solid list.
29:29
With the jerseys, you know, so it's tough.
29:32
I think hopefully we'll we'll rank some other jerseys in
29:36
another video in the future. That's the city, City 1.
29:39
So look out for that one for that video.
29:44
OK, Next up, we have some over underlines.
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I'll just pull them up. We have Lou dot over under 42%
29:55
for three. I believe he shot 41 point
29:58
something this season. Yeah, he was damn near 42 this
30:03
past season. 43 is a really good.
30:07
No regression. 43 is a really good shooter, like an excellent
30:12
shooter. Tough.
30:18
It's it's a good line. I think I'm going to go a little
30:21
bit of a regression, maybe around 40%.
30:23
Hopefully he sits around because 43 puts you up there.
30:31
So hopefully I hope that he sits around 40%.
30:34
I'll take the under though. Yeah, I think I'm going to take
30:40
the under as well. Just I don't think he'll
30:43
improve. I don't think he'll regress too
30:46
much either. But I think coming into last
30:50
season, he wasn't exactly known as a consistent shooter like
30:54
he's that he's been a lot of work into a shot.
30:56
So I think now the scout will change on him and people will be
30:59
more aware of his shooting. And.
31:03
I think that'll be, yeah, more addressed for the players.
31:08
Yeah, I mean, it was 40, it was about 41 point whatever like you
31:12
said throughout the season. Then he struggled early in the
31:15
playoffs, but then really, you know, turned it on towards the
31:17
end in the championship as well. So like you said, people aren't
31:21
going to be leaving him, you know, as open as as they have in
31:24
the past. So little bit of a regression,
31:26
but nothing crazy hopefully. Next up, we have Shay over under
31:31
51% from the field. Over for me.
31:37
What do you think I? Think I think he gets over.
31:41
I think the next step for Shay is about a 504090 season.
31:47
He improves that 3 point shot to a 40%.
31:50
I know he's going to stay over 51.
31:53
I think 5049 is coming up soon for him.
31:56
Yeah, that's a good point. On the three-point shot.
31:58
I think this field goal present is mainly just tanked by his
32:01
three-point shot at the moment when he's shooting 8, maybe 12
32:05
threes in a game. So now that I'm thinking about
32:09
it, originally I was maybe leaning towards under, but he is
32:13
one of the most efficient scorers of all time so I'm going
32:16
to confidently say over now. Yeah.
32:20
Next we have Casey Wallace over under 1.9 steals per game.
32:26
I'm going to let you go first on this one.
32:29
I'm going to go well. The reason I made this was
32:34
because I didn't know well. I'm assuming he's going to be
32:39
getting a bit more minutes, possibly starting some games
32:42
based of what we saw in the finals, and he's due to take
32:46
another leap in progression. I think he averaged 1.5.
32:54
I ran that mark last season. Lead was actually like 1.81
32:58
point 91.8. I'll double check on that but I
33:04
believe it was like 1.8. Definitely could be.
33:08
So yeah, it's I think this is the toughest one I've made, but
33:12
I think I'm going to go over 1.8.
33:16
I'm going to go over just because I guess there's an
33:19
argument that the team defense will be better, but like, so
33:22
it'll be more shared around a number of players, but I think
33:26
he his his leap will solidify that hopefully.
33:31
So I'm going to go over. Two steals a game is fantastic
33:37
and I'm expecting more minutes as well this year.
33:40
Give me the over as well. I mean, the dude's an animal on
33:43
the defensive side of the ball. He never slows down Reed's
33:47
passing lanes. Guards one-on-one.
33:50
I'm going to take the over. If there's more minutes, it's
33:54
going over for sure. Next up, Hartenstein over under
34:00
9 1/2 rebounds per game. I'm just going to go over plain
34:05
and simple. I think if he's not starting,
34:07
he'll be sick, man. Or yeah, should be.
34:12
And we are notoriously pretty bad at rebounding as a team.
34:17
So he picks up a lot of that slack.
34:20
So I think when he's on he'll he'll make the most of
34:22
rebounding. And he knows his role is mainly
34:24
to rebound on this team and set screen.
34:26
So he he he's confident in his ability to do that and knows
34:30
that that's what the team needs. So I'm going to go over.
34:34
Yeah, this year he was sitting at 10.7 a game.
34:37
You add Sorber into that mix, but I still don't think that
34:40
affects, you know, him to fall under 9 1/2.
34:42
I still think he should be around double digits, so I'll
34:45
take the over as well. OK Next up we have J Dub over
34:49
under 5 assists per game. So I think he was sitting at 5
34:55
or maybe 4.5, but some factors. 5.15.1. 5.1 That's right.
35:03
And then so yeah, some factors that Topics and AJ are coming
35:08
in. So they'll be doing a lot more
35:09
facilitating this year, whereas we didn't have either of them
35:13
for most, well for most of last year.
35:15
So it was mainly on JW to be the the secondary facilitator, which
35:19
he did a great job of. So I'm going to go under just
35:24
based off the idea of Topics coming in and doing what he's
35:29
meant to be doing. What do you think?
35:34
This is super interesting for me 'cause he averaged about 21.6
35:39
points per game, I'm expecting a lead to like 25 points per game.
35:43
I talked about this in our past videos.
35:45
I think he's going to be hitting about 25 a game.
35:49
He was at 5 rebounds and five assists last year.
35:53
If the points go up, dude, does that make the assist go down a
35:57
little? I'm not sure.
35:59
I think he's going to be ultra aggressive all year.
36:06
It's a tough one. It's such a good line.
36:09
Like I think he's going to sit at I'm I'm going to call.
36:12
I think he sits at 5:00 this year.
36:13
Again, I think I'm just going to say I'm just flat taking him
36:18
five. He's going to hit. 5 override
36:21
it, yes, yes, OK. And the last one, I think we
36:27
touched on that earlier, Chet hungry over under 41 games
36:31
playing. Yeah, I'm going to pray that
36:33
it's over. I believe that it's going to be
36:35
over. I think, you know, the hip
36:37
injury was a freak accident. Obviously, he went up to
36:40
contest, fell on his head. What are you going to do about
36:43
it? He's going to gain some muscle,
36:47
gain some strength over the offseason.
36:48
He's going to continue to get a little bit bigger.
36:51
His rookie season was fine. Well, Tech, his first season was
36:56
fine, and then obviously his rookie season, the foot injury,
37:01
but that was freak too. That was in like Pro Am with
37:05
LeBron James and stuff. So yeah, I'm expecting a healthy
37:09
season for Chet, A healthier season.
37:12
You know, I don't need him to play 82, but anything over like
37:15
64 is is great for Chet this year.
37:18
Yeah, I'm taking the over. I'm hoping it'll hit as well
37:22
because he's a big part of the game and I think he only played
37:25
36 games last year, which is. Insane.
37:28
Pretty, yeah. Pretty insane.
37:30
Like thinking about it like only 36 and we still finished.
37:35
Yeah. As we go back and he only played
37:39
36, you know, around 36 games in the regular season and OK, so
37:44
he's still finished with 68 regular season win.
37:46
It's like, unbelievable. Yeah, what a season we had.
37:52
Well, that's it for the over underlines.
37:56
Moving on. Yeah, I mean, one more guy I'd
38:00
shout out. I'm not going to spend a whole
38:03
lot of time on this. Listen, we can flashback the
38:11
last trade deadlines episode this past evening.
38:15
There's a guy out there restricted free agent.
38:19
Brooklyn's only offering him $7,000,000 a year, $7,000,000
38:25
Cam Thomas We saw the lack of scoring off the bench in the in
38:30
the playoffs. It was a real thing.
38:32
We still won the championship. I know we have guys coming in
38:36
just I, I, I all I want to say is keep your eye out for that
38:39
guy. I don't think we're going to
38:40
sign them, but $7,000,000, it's not hard to beat.
38:45
What are your thoughts? Are there?
38:49
Are there? Are there any?
38:51
Yeah, I haven't really considered Cam Thomas at all,
38:56
but then again, as a Thunder fan, knowing that we've had all
39:00
15 roster spots and we're pretty stacked this year that I haven't
39:03
really considered many free agents.
39:06
I think $7,000,000 is just a massive middle finger to him
39:10
though, because he's definitely better than that.
39:12
But obviously we've seen like Giddy himself, Kim manga just
39:17
being screwed over by the restricted free agent as as
39:20
restricted free agents. Hopefully he'll land somewhere.
39:24
But I mean, I I see where you're coming up coming from with the
39:28
scoring off the bench. But yeah, I'm not sure if he's
39:32
the answer for OK C, but I I'm sure he will be doing good next
39:36
season wherever he ends up. I just I just.
39:39
Just speculating, just. Speculating, just saying like 7
39:42
million, you know, like just keep an eye out.
39:46
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We get Yeah, I guess that'll
39:51
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