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Chuck & Buck 3-16 Hour 3: Enough already! Is this a big step in the right direction? Bracket fun! · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Oh my, all sorts of stuff going on here on
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Speaker 1: this Monday. It is a bracket Monday. More on that
0:19
Speaker 1: a little bit. Looks like the Sonics are closer to
0:22
Speaker 1: returning than ever before. We'll talk more about that coming
0:25
Speaker 1: up a little bit later on in the hour. We've
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Speaker 1: got a crack and hockey team that apparently Bobby McMahon
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Speaker 1: was just the ingredient that they needed to suddenly become amazing.
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Speaker 1: They've won two straight with McMahon. He scored three goals
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Speaker 1: since the league finally got his paperwork done. And so
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Speaker 1: we'll talk with Ben Myers about that and other things
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Speaker 1: coming up a little bit later on in the show.
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Speaker 1: And we watched one of the best baseball games we've
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Speaker 1: seen and in an exhibition tournament, the US winning over
1:00
Speaker 1: excuse me, just choked on my own spit. They just
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Speaker 1: won over the Dominican Republic by a final score of
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Speaker 1: two to one last night. A fantastic game. We'll talk
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Speaker 1: about that game a little bit later on. And we
1:11
Speaker 1: even have football news today as the Chiefs have just
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Speaker 1: traded for Justin Fields from the New York Jets in
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Speaker 1: exchange for a sixth round pick. There was actual talk
1:21
Speaker 1: about Russell Wilson going to Kansas City. Mahomes of course,
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Speaker 1: had the injury late in the season. They don't know
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Speaker 1: if he'll be ready by the start of the season,
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Speaker 1: and so whoever is the backup is probably going to
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Speaker 1: play a little bit at least at the beginning of
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Speaker 1: the year. And so there was talk that Russell Wilson
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Speaker 1: might be that guy for the Kansas City Chiefs, and
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Speaker 1: instead they trade for Justin Fields today, so it looks
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Speaker 1: like he will be that guy. So obviously a lot
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Speaker 1: going on, I mean a lot going on. Awesome, Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean it's cool, but it keeps us from really
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Speaker 1: sinking our teeth into one subject here this morning, because
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Speaker 1: there are so many subjects to discuss, but one thing
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Speaker 1: that we have to talk about today, and that is
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Speaker 1: Handshake Gate. And I hope this is the last time
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Speaker 1: that we talk about it, because I want to put
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Speaker 1: this thing to bed, and hopefully the Mariners are putting
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Speaker 1: this thing to bed. And thank you Josh Naylor for
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Speaker 1: what you did Friday, because it looked like there was
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Speaker 1: going to be another nasty layer to this, possibly having
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Speaker 1: started Josh Naylor. When Team USA took on Canada on Friday,
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Speaker 1: went up offered a fist bump to Colah. He looked
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Speaker 1: like he denied it, and then they went about play,
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Speaker 1: and everybody on that horrible mechanism known as social media
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Speaker 1: was destroying our beloved Catcher once again for being a jerk,
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Speaker 1: even though he's the nicest guy on the planet not
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Speaker 1: named Andre's Munnos. And so then it was another evening
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Speaker 1: of you know, crapping on cow from coast to coast,
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Speaker 1: And then Josh Naylor was asked about it afterwards after
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Speaker 1: having lost by the way, and I would imagine disappointingly so,
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Speaker 1: and Josh Naylor explained, Uh, no, I was kidding.
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Speaker 2: I was joking.
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Speaker 1: I actually sent him a text saying I'm gonna fist
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Speaker 1: bump him when I come to the plate and he
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Speaker 1: told me, please no, And I did it anyway, just
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Speaker 1: because I thought it would be funny. And he's got
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Speaker 1: this smirk on his face, and then he went on
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Speaker 1: to say, Cal's one of my favorite people. He's one
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Speaker 1: of my favorite teammates I've ever had. He is a
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Speaker 1: great leader, he has a great guy Who's one of
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Speaker 1: the reasons why I re signed with this team, because
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Speaker 1: I want to be teammates with him, and it's like, okay,
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Speaker 1: there you go. Can we just do that? Can we
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Speaker 1: just like, all right, Randy, you're upset, but Cal tried
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Speaker 1: to make things better the next day and you got
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Speaker 1: quieter and you shrunk from the spotlight and made things
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Speaker 1: seem worse than what they were. And then apparently trash
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Speaker 1: talked Cal to players on Team Mexico, which I wonder
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Speaker 1: how Andre's Munoz handled overhearing some of that, and then
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Speaker 1: has to go read a statement when he returns to
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Speaker 1: Peoria and to Mariners spring training facility, has to read
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Speaker 1: a statement. Can you just say? I didn't like it?
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Speaker 1: And I think I wish that he would have fist
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Speaker 1: bumped me because we're buddies, we're boys, we're pals, we're teammates.
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Speaker 1: I didn't like it at the time. I kind of
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Speaker 1: felt like I got stood up a little bit there.
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Speaker 1: But I love the guy. He's a great teammate and
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Speaker 1: there is no problem here whatsoever. Could we not just
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Speaker 1: do that? Let's end this thing now, there is no controversy.
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Speaker 1: It's silliness. Let all of the haters on social media
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Speaker 1: say they're garbage. Who cares? Make sure that the Mariners
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Speaker 1: bury this damn thing once and for all, because I
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Speaker 1: don't want this to linger one second more.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean the fact that it was anything,
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Speaker 3: it's kind of sucks just because I don't think it
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Speaker 3: is intended the way in which it was perceived by him,
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Speaker 3: and to some degree because of the culture difference, because
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Speaker 3: of the language barrier, which still not one hundred percent sure.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the fact that he didn't basically acknowledge Cows
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Speaker 3: reaching out to him and trying to just smooth it
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Speaker 3: over the next day leads you down the path of okay,
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Speaker 3: well then you weren't kidding for sure, that you know,
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Speaker 3: you take it and stick it up is where the
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Speaker 3: sun don't shine. That you weren't kidding. You were you
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Speaker 3: were butt hurt a little bit by it, and okay, fine,
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Speaker 3: you you're entitled to be to feel bad because somebody
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Speaker 3: left you hang it. That said, it's not that big
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Speaker 3: of a deal in all actuality, and it's what we
5:57
Speaker 3: talked about with One of the cool things about the
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Speaker 3: WBC is you get to as a squad, you get
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Speaker 3: to play the game however you want to play it. Right,
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Speaker 3: the Dominicans they hoop and hauler and so does you
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Speaker 3: know Venezuela's big into that. Mexico maybe not quite as much,
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Speaker 3: but I would like to think that there still is
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Speaker 3: a certain degree of respect for one another. And I
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Speaker 3: don't think col was intending disrespect by not shaking hands.
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Speaker 3: He took it as such, and so there's something to it.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, this is to me something that should be
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Speaker 3: kind of water under the bridge, but should have been
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Speaker 3: water under the bridge, like right after basically it happened,
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Speaker 3: like hey, what the heck? You know, he sent me
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Speaker 3: a text and then I say, well, I just didn't
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Speaker 3: like that you didn't do that, that you didn't give
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Speaker 3: me a handshaker, fist punt. Were teammates. I wasn't meaning
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Speaker 3: it personal to you. It's just my team against your team.
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Speaker 3: At that point in time, we weren't on the same squad. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: can we get over it. I'll just say this. I
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Speaker 3: think Randy is probably kind of an ofp guy, Like
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Speaker 3: that's a saying back in the day and own something
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Speaker 3: per like it's our program, my own FN program. Like
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Speaker 3: there's certain guys that that's what they are, and I
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Speaker 3: think Randy rose Rain is one of those. I think
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Speaker 3: he's kind of beats to you know, his own drum,
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Speaker 3: and and he does what he wants to do, how
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Speaker 3: he wants to do it, not going to be told otherwise.
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Speaker 3: He's talented enough that he can do that nowadays.
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Speaker 2: He's good.
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Speaker 3: He's a bona fide Big leaguer, far more than I
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Speaker 3: can say about myself. And yet, uh it, they're they're
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Speaker 3: not the same type of player Cal who and Randy
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Speaker 3: are not, And so I don't think they actually are homies,
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Speaker 3: like I don't think they're.
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Speaker 2: They're teammates. He cheers for him.
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Speaker 3: I think they cheer for each other, but I don't
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Speaker 3: think they're going out to dinner after after games. I
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Speaker 3: don't think they're sitting next to each other on the
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Speaker 3: plane ride. I don't think they're like that. And that's fine.
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Speaker 3: You don't have to be. But we don't need to
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Speaker 3: turn this into where your adversaries either that there's something
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Speaker 3: between it. Because you thought you think that before the game,
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Speaker 3: high fives is good and Cal doesn't think it's good.
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Speaker 3: That's you're entitled to your opinion. You attempted to do it.
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Speaker 3: He kind of told you don't, and you still attempted
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Speaker 3: to do it because you're a ofp sounds like he
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Speaker 3: did tell him don yes, and yet you didn't. You said,
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Speaker 3: now I'm gonna do it anyways, Well then you got
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Speaker 3: left hanging. Yeah, so you know, I guess you asked
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Speaker 3: for it to some degree and then you got what
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Speaker 3: you asked for.
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Speaker 2: And so I think I'm with you.
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Speaker 3: I think it was a manufactured statement that he came
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Speaker 3: out with that we didn't get the results we wanted
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Speaker 3: at Team Mexico, but I'm glad to be back in
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Speaker 3: camp with my teammates. I don't think that's necessarily his words,
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Speaker 3: but it's fine. He came out and said it. That is,
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Speaker 3: to some degree, putting this thing to bed, and I
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Speaker 3: hope that it's to bed for good.
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Speaker 4: I see, And I actually feel like he had so
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Speaker 4: many opportunities to have shut it down, and even a
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Speaker 4: statement doesn't shut it down. He doesn't say it was,
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Speaker 4: he doesn't address that situation at all. He just ignores
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Speaker 4: it pretty much and just says, you know, all that
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Speaker 4: stuff's behind me.
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Speaker 2: I'm focusing on this.
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Speaker 4: Well, what about the fact that you had plenty of
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Speaker 4: opportunities to put this all behind you earlier and you
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Speaker 4: chose not to. I mean, he went out there after
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Speaker 4: the game and made the statements, you know, angry at
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Speaker 4: Cal in four languages. He wanted to make sure that
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Speaker 4: every you know, people could understand him. However, he wanted
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Speaker 4: everybody to know that he was not happy with what happened.
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Speaker 4: And then Cal reaches out to him. As far as
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Speaker 4: we know, they did not communicate. Randy did not reach
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Speaker 4: back out to him. Again, you had multiple opportunities to
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Speaker 4: squash this whole thing and put it to bed. And
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Speaker 4: your statement from the Mariners that yes, I don't think
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Speaker 4: he wrote, doesn't do that.
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Speaker 1: It just says like I'm moving on.
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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, that's great in theory that you're going to
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Speaker 4: move on because you went on Instagram and he posted
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Speaker 4: photos about it and all of these things and showing
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Speaker 4: how irritated you were by posting videos of other teams
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Speaker 4: high fiving and hugging.
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Speaker 1: Mm hm.
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Speaker 4: So I mean, I think it should have been a
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Speaker 4: better statement. I think he should have had to actually
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Speaker 4: say something about the issue, like I have put the
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Speaker 4: issue that specifically behind me. It was a misunderstanding. I'm
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Speaker 4: looking forward to the season. That's I mean, it didn't
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Speaker 4: have to be something specific.
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Speaker 1: Just I don't even think he has to do it
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Speaker 1: through the media. I don't think just as long as
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Speaker 1: there's no issue. Yeah, once Cal gets there and hopefully
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Speaker 1: they will have a little brief conversation, but Randy's way
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Speaker 1: ahead of him, like, I'm we're good. That needs to
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Speaker 1: occur whenever Cal does show up. It's just the US
10:22
Speaker 1: keeps winning. But look, and speaking of the US, they
10:29
Speaker 1: you know they it was a team wide thing. I
10:32
Speaker 1: mean even Aaron Judge acknowledged it. There was a press
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Speaker 1: conference where he was asked about his Yankee teammates and
10:38
Speaker 1: he's like, they're my Yankee teammates. They're my brothers. I
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Speaker 1: love them and I can't wait to go see them
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Speaker 1: again and try to win a World Series. That's an
10:46
Speaker 1: essence what he said. But right now, I team USA.
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Speaker 1: The difference is that people don't have an isolated moment
10:54
Speaker 1: standing in the same proximity as a right fielder. Yeah. So,
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he comes to the plate, but Cal's
11:02
Speaker 1: got a Cal's stationary and now has to And that's
11:06
Speaker 1: why Naylord Naylor knew I'm going to come across you,
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Speaker 1: so I'm going to do something tongue in cheek, and
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Speaker 1: it infuriated people who are already angry all over again.
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Speaker 1: But then Naylor's explanation was so well done that I
11:23
Speaker 1: think it diffused the entire situation. And thank God for that,
11:28
Speaker 1: because this is this should be a nothing burger. It
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Speaker 1: absolutely should be nothing. And look before anybody that's pro
11:37
Speaker 1: Randy and anti cal that's listening right now, I wish
11:40
Speaker 1: he would have just shaken his hand. As a sports fan,
11:43
Speaker 1: I like seeing that when you have the international competition
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Speaker 1: and there's a recognition of you're special, you're my guy.
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Speaker 1: I like seeing that. But there was a team wide
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Speaker 1: decision not to do. Will Smith was doing the same thing,
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Speaker 1: but his teammates didn't come up up there and ask
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Speaker 1: him for a handshake. Otherwise maybe that would have been
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Speaker 1: a bigger story. So this is this should be nothing.
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Speaker 1: I think it is nothing, and yet man, it turned
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Speaker 1: into a week and a half of cow bashing by
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Speaker 1: people across the country. F off all of you, And
12:22
Speaker 1: if you were doing it here locally, you're stupid. And
12:28
Speaker 1: I'm saying I wish he would have done it. But
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Speaker 1: if you went from col'sar catcher to I can't believe
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Speaker 1: this guy, he's anti he is inhumane.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, to be honest, I'll just say,
12:41
Speaker 3: I mean, because of the backlash from it, because of
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Speaker 3: the negative attention that it got, then I wish he
12:48
Speaker 3: would have done it.
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Speaker 2: But I don't think he needed to do it. I don't.
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Speaker 2: I don't. You don't he needed to.
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Speaker 1: I just wish he would have.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
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Speaker 3: I just liked yeah, yeah, Well it would have been
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Speaker 3: That's what I mean, and HEINDZ would have been a
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Speaker 3: lot of he or what also would have been easy
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Speaker 3: is if Randy just listened to his teammate that said, hey, dude,
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Speaker 3: don't try to shake my hand. I'm I'm about competition
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Speaker 3: at this point in time. It doesn't mean that I
13:11
Speaker 3: don't want you to be at my teammate, doesn't mean
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Speaker 3: I'm not going to be rooting for you and ready
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Speaker 3: to go to battle for one sixty two plus this
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Speaker 3: season against you. And to me, it's what Thank God
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Speaker 3: for Josh Naylor and the way that he did it.
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Speaker 3: I'm glad that Josh Naylor didn't heed Col's advice when
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Speaker 3: he said no, please don't because if he didn't, right,
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Speaker 3: let's say Josh Naylor goes up there and just doesn't
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Speaker 3: offer a handshake, so they do nothing.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's almost to those that.
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Speaker 3: Want to hate on cow or those that just want
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Speaker 3: to hate on the situation, just can't wait to blow
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Speaker 3: something out of proportion. They would think that it is
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Speaker 3: something even if it was nothing, even if it was
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Speaker 3: just Josh Naylor, like, you know what, I'm not going
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Speaker 3: to bring I'm not even going to put the attempt
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Speaker 3: out there because if he doesn't then do it, then
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Speaker 3: it looks bad. But then if he hadn't went up
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Speaker 3: and offered something, even jokingly, then people still would have
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Speaker 3: taken it rent low. Look at this right now, Naylor
14:03
Speaker 3: and cal aren't even getting along. He didn't even do anything.
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Speaker 3: He didn't even try anything. It's like, no, he did
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Speaker 3: to make fun of the whole thing. It doesn't really matter.
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Speaker 3: This is not a big deal.
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Speaker 1: We had to wait to the end of the game
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Speaker 1: though for that clarification. In the moment, people were going
14:19
Speaker 1: nuts with anger over it in the moment. And when
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Speaker 1: I say people, I mean social media. And let's face it,
14:26
Speaker 1: social media is dominated by young, angry people. That's what it's.
14:32
Speaker 1: They can't wait to call out somebody as successful as
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Speaker 1: cal Raley. They can't wait to stir the pot. And
14:39
Speaker 1: so we tend to give it way more credit than
14:41
Speaker 1: it actually deserves. I don't think Randy's as upset as
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Speaker 1: what we think. I don't think anybody was really upset.
14:48
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think it's a big nothing burger.
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Speaker 1: But we had to acknowledge it because because of social media,
14:54
Speaker 1: it looked like the world hated cal Raley all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'd say we had to really acknowledge
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Speaker 4: it because of Randy's postgame statement again, because it made
15:04
Speaker 4: it like, oh, wait a minute, this is a more
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Speaker 4: serious thing. Although even then we were like, maybe he's joking,
15:09
Speaker 4: maybe he's not, although it didn't seem like he was joking.
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Speaker 4: I mean when the and then yeah, when the nailor
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Speaker 4: thing happened, I was like, wait, why what was you know?
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Speaker 1: I didn't know what was going on.
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Speaker 4: And then afterwards when he released statement, I was like, oh,
15:21
Speaker 4: thank goodness, because yeah, it just seemed like why does
15:24
Speaker 4: this I was more like, why does this still have
15:26
Speaker 4: to be a thing? Like I just wanted to not
15:29
Speaker 4: be a thing. When Mariners players are coming up to
15:31
Speaker 4: the plate. And then somebody texted and asked, well, what
15:33
Speaker 4: happened with Julio last night? Well, Cal wasn't in the game,
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Speaker 4: so it didn't matter. But you know, people would have
15:39
Speaker 4: been watching again when Julio came up at the plate
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Speaker 4: if Cal would have been catching, for sure, and I
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Speaker 4: just wanted to be away.
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Speaker 1: Well, it'll be away in ten days or probably shorter
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Speaker 1: than that. I think they just need to sit down
15:53
Speaker 1: in a room. And I would imagine Randy's not nearly
15:56
Speaker 1: as upset as what he's carrying on. But if you are, dude, seriously,
16:02
Speaker 1: if you really are that upset, just what coach Bucky
16:06
Speaker 1: told us earlier, you're gonna pick this fight, you're gonna lose.
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Speaker 2: Better get over it.
16:11
Speaker 1: You better get over it, you know. And so I
16:15
Speaker 1: promise you what I know about Kyle Rawley is that
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Speaker 1: he will take the step to make sure everything's okay.
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Speaker 1: But you're not gonna sit there and do it every day,
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Speaker 1: no until, you know, until he works his way toward
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Speaker 1: Randy's forgiveness. They'll have a little conversation face to face.
16:36
Speaker 1: I would imagine Dan will be there as well, and
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Speaker 1: they'll settle it and they'll bury it, and that better
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Speaker 1: be it. Yeah, And if it's not, then we've got
16:46
Speaker 1: a Randy problem. And just to show you history, reveal history.
16:52
Speaker 1: A lot of people have had a Randy problem throughout
16:55
Speaker 1: his career. He got traded away from the Saint Louis
16:57
Speaker 1: Cardinals for pretty much a song that's not true. Matthew
17:01
Speaker 1: Libertor is actually a pretty good talent. But I mean
17:04
Speaker 1: he's got moved a couple of times because he's rubbed
17:08
Speaker 1: people the wrong way FP in a clubhouse setting. And
17:12
Speaker 1: so if you're gonna you're gonna tackle the big dog,
17:16
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose. So unless you've got information or evidence
17:21
Speaker 1: to suggest that you don't realize how difficult cal Rowley
17:26
Speaker 1: it makes all of our lives, then you better figure
17:31
Speaker 1: out a way to accept an apology or at least
17:33
Speaker 1: an explanation. Maybe it won't be an apology, but you
17:36
Speaker 1: better figure out a way to accept an explanation. Whether
17:40
Speaker 1: you agree with it or not.
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Speaker 3: You just got to coexist and do what you need
17:43
Speaker 3: to do. As a teammate. You don't have to be
17:44
Speaker 3: best friends. I can tell you right now. I didn't
17:46
Speaker 3: have one team I played on and I got along
17:48
Speaker 3: with pitchers, catchers. You don't position players everybody. I feel
17:53
Speaker 3: like I was a good teammate, and yet there was
17:55
Speaker 3: not one team I played on that I loved every
17:57
Speaker 3: single player equally.
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Speaker 2: There was some.
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Speaker 3: I loved and there's others I could do without. That's fine,
18:03
Speaker 3: but I still would never like, not bring information back
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Speaker 3: from my bat, not tell a guy because I didn't
18:08
Speaker 3: care for Eric al Monte was a dude that I
18:10
Speaker 3: could not stand, absolutely could not stand it him.
18:15
Speaker 1: And and and yet.
18:16
Speaker 3: When I saw a nasty slider and I'm like his
18:19
Speaker 3: slider sharp today, I didn't go tell everybody except for
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Speaker 3: him because I didn't like him, and I didn't like
18:24
Speaker 3: the way he played the game. It just he played
18:27
Speaker 3: it his way. I played it my way. We were different.
18:29
Speaker 3: We just basically had to realize we were going to
18:31
Speaker 3: co exist on the same team, cheer for one another.
18:34
Speaker 3: And that's where it ended. We didn't go out to dinner,
18:37
Speaker 3: we we don't text each other. Still, it is what
18:40
Speaker 3: it is. You don't have to be buddy buddy, but
18:42
Speaker 3: you got to be a good teammate. And that doesn't
18:44
Speaker 3: mean I guarantee cow walks in, goes what's up, dude,
18:46
Speaker 3: We good handshake, bro hugs and if it's not good there,
18:51
Speaker 3: then Randy, you are going to find yourself on the
18:54
Speaker 3: on the on your way out, and then I don't
18:55
Speaker 3: want that because I I like what Randy brings to
18:58
Speaker 3: the table when it comes to being a baseball player.
19:00
Speaker 1: And I love our clubhouse. I mean, it's a tight group,
19:03
Speaker 1: and how this handshake gate could potentially threaten it would
19:08
Speaker 1: be a sad, sad turn of events. Yeah, So I
19:12
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to it won't. I think Bucky's
19:15
Speaker 1: got it. I think that's what's going to happen. And
19:17
Speaker 1: I think that they'll bury the hatchet and I don't
19:19
Speaker 1: think there'll be issues. And I think, wait, we play
19:22
Speaker 1: a game in ten days. I think twelve eleven days
19:25
Speaker 1: from now, Cal and Randy will be laughing in the
19:28
Speaker 1: dugout together celebrating Trident home run celebrations. That's what I
19:32
Speaker 1: think is going to happen. But in the meantime, because
19:35
Speaker 1: of this WBC and because all of the coast to
19:38
Speaker 1: coast experts out there on Cal Raleigh, we had to
19:42
Speaker 1: deal with a story that just blew to a proportion
19:44
Speaker 1: that it never.
19:45
Speaker 2: Needed to reach.
19:47
Speaker 1: Coming up next, the latest from the NBA. Pretty significant
19:54
Speaker 1: story broke this morning, and it looks like we are
19:57
Speaker 1: closer to the Sonics returning than ever before. We'll tell
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Speaker 1: Happy Monday, everybody, Happy bracket Monday to everybody as well.
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Speaker 1: More on that in a moment, because my gosh, as
20:22
Speaker 1: if there weren't enough things to talk about these days,
20:26
Speaker 1: hold on to your butts. You haven't heard this yet.
20:29
Speaker 1: This morning looks like we are closer to the Sonics
20:33
Speaker 1: than ever returning, as it was announced just this morning.
20:39
Speaker 1: I mean all of this like drag out and build
20:42
Speaker 1: up and no, not yet, and oh we'll start thinking
20:46
Speaker 1: about that in the upcoming calendar year, and you know,
20:50
Speaker 1: just sort of kicking the can down the road on
20:52
Speaker 1: something that was supposed to already be buttoned up and
20:55
Speaker 1: decided by now. And then all of a sudden, we
20:58
Speaker 1: get this story this morning from Shams Sharanya, who is
21:02
Speaker 1: who is the new woes at ESPN, the new ESPN
21:06
Speaker 1: newsbreaker from the National Basketball Association, and he drops this
21:11
Speaker 1: little nugget on us this morning that not only are
21:15
Speaker 1: things looking good for the Sonics returning, we might know
21:20
Speaker 1: within a little over a week that it's done. That
21:23
Speaker 1: it is a done deal.
21:24
Speaker 2: Here's the story.
21:25
Speaker 1: The NBA is going to hold a vote at the
21:27
Speaker 1: Board of Governors meeting next week to explore adding expansion
21:31
Speaker 1: teams exclusively. In other words, the only two cities they're
21:36
Speaker 1: even discussing, Las Vegas and Seattle with the two new franchises.
21:41
Speaker 1: This is really where it's just like feels real, because
21:45
Speaker 1: this is the first time I've seen somebody write this
21:48
Speaker 1: as a story, as an actual story, and not just
21:52
Speaker 1: conjecture or predictions or anything like that. But he's writing
21:56
Speaker 1: his sources are telling him that with the two New
21:59
Speaker 1: Friends is being targeted to start playing in twenty eight
22:04
Speaker 1: and twenty nine, the twenty twenty eight twenty twenty nine season,
22:09
Speaker 1: So they have a lot of momentum building toward this moment.
22:13
Speaker 1: They've kind of set a price. It sounds like they've
22:16
Speaker 1: picked the two cities that they're going to expand to,
22:19
Speaker 1: and so there will be a vote next week in
22:21
Speaker 1: which you're going to need twenty three out of thirty
22:24
Speaker 1: governors must vote in favor of the expansion and of
22:28
Speaker 1: these two cities in order to proceed. But we've gone
22:33
Speaker 1: from kicking the can down the road to Adam Silver
22:36
Speaker 1: just picked up the can and we're just about ready
22:39
Speaker 1: to find out it sounds like whether or not the
22:42
Speaker 1: Sonics are going to be back soon.
22:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it just boils down to I mean,
22:47
Speaker 3: it's felt like it was just a matter of when,
22:49
Speaker 3: not if, it was going to happen. And yet because
22:52
Speaker 3: the can's been kicked down the road so long, it
22:55
Speaker 3: kind of starts to feel like, well, maybe I was
22:57
Speaker 3: premature in thinking that it for sure was going to happen.
23:00
Speaker 3: This makes it kind of revitalizes that feeling to me
23:03
Speaker 3: of Okay, it's happening.
23:04
Speaker 2: It it's definitely happening.
23:06
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of win and how and how
23:08
Speaker 3: much money it's going to cost you to get a
23:10
Speaker 3: team here. I mean, you know the report of seven
23:13
Speaker 3: to ten billion dollars, Well that's you know, I'm sure
23:16
Speaker 3: that the Todd and you know, his whole crew have
23:20
Speaker 3: been out there raising the money to figure out how
23:22
Speaker 3: it's going to be.
23:23
Speaker 2: Because that's what it boils down to.
23:24
Speaker 3: They're going to be asking these guys, are you down
23:27
Speaker 3: with us expanding by two teams if they come in
23:31
Speaker 3: with this amount of money, Because to some degree it's
23:33
Speaker 3: deluding the overall product product, But then you have to
23:36
Speaker 3: look at it as it's also adding big markets to
23:39
Speaker 3: an already existing fan base, which the NBA already has.
23:42
Speaker 3: So I mean, I think it's just a matter of
23:45
Speaker 3: when now, right, and we're thinking here a week, ten days,
23:48
Speaker 3: they're going to have this little vote, and then we'll
23:51
Speaker 3: find out if we're going to be getting the Sonics
23:52
Speaker 3: back here in a couple of years.
23:54
Speaker 1: And that's just one more season, by the way, before
23:57
Speaker 1: all of the expansion stuff happens. So it's this year
24:00
Speaker 1: and then next year, and then as soon as next
24:02
Speaker 1: year is over, now you're building tours, getting ready for
24:06
Speaker 1: bunch and draft.
24:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I might be the only one who's
24:09
Speaker 4: not like taking it as something very exciting, just because
24:13
Speaker 4: there's this vote and then there's another vote later on
24:16
Speaker 4: in the year, and that's the vote that will decide
24:19
Speaker 4: for sure that it's happening. So until that vote happens
24:22
Speaker 4: and it gets approved, because again, we've been burned so
24:24
Speaker 4: many times by this thing and how long it has taken,
24:27
Speaker 4: and I just I can't allow myself to get excited
24:32
Speaker 4: about something that's still only a possibility until they actually say, Okay,
24:37
Speaker 4: these two franchises are starting, You've got a team, you're
24:41
Speaker 4: hiring staff, things like that. I'm I'm staying in the
24:44
Speaker 4: same place as I've that I've been, well, I think.
24:47
Speaker 1: This would already be done for whatever reason. When I
24:52
Speaker 1: just finished watching Succession, I did finish it awesome, Yeah,
24:56
Speaker 1: very good show. But it's I think what it happening
25:00
Speaker 1: was that they were counting on people in the boardroom
25:06
Speaker 1: to be on board with the plan to expand, and
25:09
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they found out that a
25:11
Speaker 1: couple there were a few people that were going to
25:14
Speaker 1: vote against it. So now they're like, well, we don't
25:16
Speaker 1: want the vote to fail. So that's why they started
25:19
Speaker 1: kicking it down the road. Otherwise, I think this thing
25:22
Speaker 1: would already be done. I think Bucky's absolutely right, and
25:25
Speaker 1: I get that the wall that you built up around
25:27
Speaker 1: your heart, Ashley, but I think the reality is that
25:30
Speaker 1: it is just a matter of when and not if,
25:33
Speaker 1: and even that's for years. But that's what I'm saying.
25:36
Speaker 1: But I'm explaining to you. But I think they were
25:38
Speaker 1: expected to have already had I mean, we were having
25:42
Speaker 1: conversations behind the scenes talking about getting ready to prepare
25:47
Speaker 1: for the announcement two years ago. So I think what
25:52
Speaker 1: they had in mind was that this was going to
25:55
Speaker 1: happen I don't know, a year ago, two years ago,
25:58
Speaker 1: whatever it was, and then they got a vote count,
26:01
Speaker 1: they found out a few owners might not be up
26:03
Speaker 1: for it, and so they didn't want to vote for
26:05
Speaker 1: it at that point until they felt that they had
26:07
Speaker 1: them in their pockets. So just like in succession, where
26:10
Speaker 1: you think you've got the you have to vote and
26:12
Speaker 1: you're on the phones right then, and so now I
26:16
Speaker 1: would imagine that this thing has got kicked into high
26:19
Speaker 1: gear next week because of that, like they've got the
26:23
Speaker 1: right vote count that they're going to actually start moving
26:28
Speaker 1: forward with it, and now moving forward with it quickly.
26:32
Speaker 1: So I think this is the most definitive sign that
26:35
Speaker 1: we've seen in a while. And if there was a
26:38
Speaker 1: chance that you don't get the vote, well I still
26:41
Speaker 1: think you're going to get the Sonics back. I think
26:43
Speaker 1: that Seattle would like to get it an expansion franchise.
26:47
Speaker 1: And if not, there are a couple of lame duck
26:50
Speaker 1: organizations out there that are going to get swooped up,
26:54
Speaker 1: swallowed up by somebody. Sorry Portland, sorry Memphis, but you're
26:57
Speaker 1: getting ready to lose your basketball teams. So even if
27:00
Speaker 1: the Sonics didn't get this, get the information out there.
27:03
Speaker 1: So if we're not going to expand, then those two
27:07
Speaker 1: cities who we are determined to be in will just
27:11
Speaker 1: consume the two cities that we're determined to get out of.
27:15
Speaker 1: At this point.
27:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the I mean, you know, we talked about
27:18
Speaker 3: a lot, right we have a part of our job
27:21
Speaker 3: is kind of reading into speculation, and there's just too
27:24
Speaker 3: much smoke to not know that there's fire. I mean,
27:27
Speaker 3: I think that everybody here that had their hearts ripped
27:30
Speaker 3: out when the Sonics left or were taken away, basically
27:34
Speaker 3: I thought it never should have happened. We should never
27:36
Speaker 3: have went a generation without having the NBA. Well, I
27:39
Speaker 3: think the NBA recognizes it now. It's not like they're
27:43
Speaker 3: I mean, think about how rude it would be to
27:45
Speaker 3: string along some girlfriend for eighteen years that you're like, yeah,
27:49
Speaker 3: we shouldn't have broke up, and you just keep doing
27:51
Speaker 3: it with the inevitable that where you're thinking, we're never
27:54
Speaker 3: going to get back together. This is the NBA wants
27:56
Speaker 3: to get back together with Seattle. They're trying to figure
27:59
Speaker 3: out how do we do this, And if there was
28:01
Speaker 3: a couple of turds in the punch bowl that we're
28:03
Speaker 3: gonna maybe ruin the vote. Then they keep kind of
28:06
Speaker 3: pushing out like, okay, we've got to figure out what
28:08
Speaker 3: this is. I think they go back to the light
28:10
Speaker 3: wiki group and say, hey, you know, maybe we were
28:14
Speaker 3: talking five six billion dollars before.
28:17
Speaker 2: In order to get the votes we're gonna need, it's
28:19
Speaker 2: gonna be closer to ten. Oh what really?
28:23
Speaker 3: All right, well let's go, let's go, you know, make
28:25
Speaker 3: some more phone calls and find out. I think that's
28:28
Speaker 3: what it is. It's the bureaucratic part of things that's
28:31
Speaker 3: happening behind the scenes before you can actually do something
28:34
Speaker 3: and make it more public if you will. You don't
28:38
Speaker 3: want to have a get shot down where instead of
28:40
Speaker 3: twenty three you get thirteen votes and you're like, man,
28:43
Speaker 3: we're long ways away, because now you've just drug it
28:47
Speaker 3: out and got a lot of Seattle people excited and
28:50
Speaker 3: then slammed it back in their face. To me, this
28:52
Speaker 3: has been kind of a putting it off, putting it off,
28:54
Speaker 3: and now all of a sudden, we're gonna get to
28:55
Speaker 3: the point where I think you're gonna get We're gonna
28:57
Speaker 3: get to hear that it's inevitable, that it's happening, and
28:59
Speaker 3: it's happened sooner than later.
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Speaker 4: I just, yeah, I think if it wasn't this vote
29:03
Speaker 4: to then have another vote, then I would be allowing
29:06
Speaker 4: myself to be more excited. But this vote is just
29:08
Speaker 4: to allow them to explore the purchase processes. Then they
29:12
Speaker 4: have another vote that that's where it would finalize and
29:16
Speaker 4: if the bids reach the necessary thresholds is what it says.
29:19
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I'm like.
29:22
Speaker 4: It's because it's a vote to vote later, So that's
29:25
Speaker 4: you know, they're going to vote first and then hopefully
29:28
Speaker 4: have another vote.
29:29
Speaker 1: Well, I think what it's what it symbolizes, is that
29:33
Speaker 1: what Adam Silver said the last time when he spoke
29:36
Speaker 1: about this in the off season, he really made it.
29:40
Speaker 1: He'd really tried to tamp down because he knows he's
29:42
Speaker 1: been stringing the cities and the process along. So he
29:46
Speaker 1: didn't want to just keep making promises that his ass
29:49
Speaker 1: wasn't ready to, you know, cash those checks at this point,
29:53
Speaker 1: and so he kind of took the all right, let
29:56
Speaker 1: me let me take the foot off of the gas
29:57
Speaker 1: here and then let let's get it all in order
30:01
Speaker 1: and then when we do make an announcement on this.
30:04
Speaker 1: We're going to go foot on the gas. I mean,
30:07
Speaker 1: we're going to press it all the way to the floor.
30:08
Speaker 1: And I think that's why this is positive. You can
30:12
Speaker 1: continue to, you know, be doubtful.
30:15
Speaker 4: I'm not doubtful.
30:16
Speaker 1: I'm just not getting I'm not getting excited. I get
30:19
Speaker 1: why happening. I would get why you and everybody else
30:21
Speaker 1: would do that. But I'm my read of it is
30:24
Speaker 1: that he's wanted to do this for a while, it
30:27
Speaker 1: wasn't time. He's then stalled, and then he got tired
30:31
Speaker 1: of stalling and putting the cities that he wanted to
30:34
Speaker 1: expand to through the process. Uh, And he was waiting
30:38
Speaker 1: to make some sort of announcement when he knew it
30:41
Speaker 1: was all systems go. I read into this that it's
30:44
Speaker 1: all systems go.
30:45
Speaker 2: He believes he has.
30:46
Speaker 1: The vote in eight days. You get to take the
30:50
Speaker 1: next step. You got to get the money groups together.
30:54
Speaker 1: And I think this is the most encouraging sign that
30:58
Speaker 1: we've seen thus far. I don't think that they'd be
31:01
Speaker 1: jumping eight days from now, we're going to get our
31:03
Speaker 1: first vote if they didn't already know that that was
31:05
Speaker 1: a done deal.
31:06
Speaker 2: Yeah.
31:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the vote to find out do we
31:09
Speaker 3: want to pursue this in these two cities? If two
31:13
Speaker 3: thirds of them say or twenty three out of thirty
31:15
Speaker 3: say yes, then they go the next vote is okay,
31:18
Speaker 3: well here's our bid. How much money we do it?
31:20
Speaker 3: And then they say yep. I mean then it would
31:22
Speaker 3: be like, are you really going to change? Are those
31:24
Speaker 3: people those voters that are like yes, if they come
31:27
Speaker 3: in with enough money, are they going to say flip
31:29
Speaker 3: their votes and say no to me? I think this
31:31
Speaker 3: is just far more positive momentum than we've had in
31:36
Speaker 3: the last forever. I mean, this is I feel like
31:39
Speaker 3: it just started kind of ramping up and moving in
31:41
Speaker 3: that direction more and yet we shall see.
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33:53
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34:02
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34:26
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Speaker 2: No, they don't want to.
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34:49
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Speaker 1: Oh, look at Chalky Jacobson over here this year game
34:57
Speaker 1: a little bit.
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Speaker 3: That might be the only upset that I have in
35:01
Speaker 3: the entire bracket at this point. No, really, it's definitely
35:04
Speaker 3: the biggest upset. It's the highest seed that I have
35:07
Speaker 3: going that far. But for all the reasons that you
35:09
Speaker 3: said I think that they have, I mean, you kind
35:12
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35:13
Speaker 3: has like that game changer, and BYU does have it,
35:16
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35:19
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35:23
Speaker 3: of who has a little bit of that dog like
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35:28
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35:31
Speaker 1: I think that's a really scary matchup for them in
35:33
Speaker 1: round number two, and I'm leaning toward BYU myself.
35:37
Speaker 4: There are I did pick Gonzaga in that one. I
35:41
Speaker 4: was from what I was reading to was that, and
35:44
Speaker 4: I mean I haven't It wasn't by a bunch of people,
35:46
Speaker 4: but just that by you might not be isn't quite
35:48
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35:50
Speaker 4: and that they've struggled just a bit.
35:52
Speaker 1: So well, they have lost a very good player. Saunders
35:55
Speaker 1: is out for them, but the Zags are down a
35:57
Speaker 1: very good player too, So we'll see.
35:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be evenly met.
36:00
Speaker 1: The other part of that region Miami and Missouri. Missouri's
36:04
Speaker 1: the ten seed, Miami's the seventh seed, but Missouri's playing
36:09
Speaker 1: that game in Saint Louis, and so I mean that's
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Speaker 1: that's going to be home court advantage for them in
36:16
Speaker 1: that game. I mean that will be all Missouri Tiger
36:18
Speaker 1: fans showing up for that and Mark James, I mean
36:22
Speaker 1: that's going to be the arena right there. And then
36:26
Speaker 1: Purdue's also in there and Purdue if you don't, if
36:29
Speaker 1: you forgot, I mean, they were the seventh seed in
36:32
Speaker 1: the Big Ten Tournament, but they started the season number
36:36
Speaker 1: one ranked in America. They were the preseason number one
36:40
Speaker 1: team in the country, and by kind of finishing with
36:43
Speaker 1: a bang, they jumped up from what I hear from
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Speaker 1: like the four line all the way up to the
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Speaker 1: two line. By rolling through the Big Ten Tournament and
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Speaker 1: winning that championship. They've got one of the best point
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Speaker 1: guards in America, if not the best point guard in America.
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Speaker 1: They're at Purdue. So that's a pretty difficult region for
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Speaker 1: the Zags. Like I said, I don't know if a
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Speaker 1: lot of Zags fans feel like this is the team
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Speaker 1: that's going to get to the national championship and win
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Speaker 1: it for it, but it's gonna be a challenge for
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Speaker 1: them just to get out of the first weekend and
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Speaker 1: even if they do, man produce it and they're waiting too.
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Speaker 1: So pretty tricky draw for the Zags.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's pretty cool because it's
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Speaker 3: not Cinderella anymore. I mean, Gunzag is kind of proven
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Speaker 3: that they're legit and they're they're here to stay. But
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Speaker 3: I don't know for sure if this is the season
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Speaker 3: that they're going to be able to get over that hump.
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Speaker 2: I don't feel like it is.
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Speaker 1: I don't either, all right. Coming up next, the WBC Man,
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Speaker 1: we were greeted to a classic a baseball game on
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Speaker 1: March fifteenth that I don't think we'll soon forget. We'll
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