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STOP Winging It: Why Preparation is Key for Musicians · Music Explored Podcast

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  A
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  lot
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  of
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  you
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  are
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  familiar
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  with
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  the
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  DNA
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  project
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  and
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  have
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  been
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  rocking
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  with
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  us
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  for
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  a
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  while,
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  but
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  some
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  of
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  you
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  aren't.
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  A
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  lot
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  of
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  you
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  are
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  faithful
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  listeners
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  of
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  the
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  podcast
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  but
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  aren't
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  familiar
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  with
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  some
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  of
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  the
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  other
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  work
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  that
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  we
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  do.
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  So
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  I
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  just
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  want
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  to
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  take
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  a
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  quick
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  moment
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  to
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  explain
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  to
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  you
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  more
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  of
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  what
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  we
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  do.
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  So
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  you're
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  getting
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  married,
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  or
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  you
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  have
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  a
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  friend,
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  a
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  cousin,
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  a
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  sister,
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  somebody
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  you
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  know
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  who's
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  getting
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  married.
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  Okay,
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  you've
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  booked
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  your
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  venue,
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  caterers,
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  photographer,
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  all
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  that
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  good
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  stuff.
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  When
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  it
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  comes
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  to
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  live
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  music,
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  most
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  people
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  have
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  no
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  idea
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  where
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  to
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  look.
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  We
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  have
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  you
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  covered.
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  Picture
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  this.
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  During
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  the
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  ceremony,
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  while
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  guests
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  are
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  being
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  seated,
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  or
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  while
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  the
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  bride's
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  walking
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  down
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  the
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  aisle,
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  during
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  the
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  cocktail
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  hour,
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  while
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  guests
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  are
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  just
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  mingling
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  and
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  having
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  a
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  good
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  time,
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  don't
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  forget
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  about
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  dinner
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  music.
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  That's
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  very
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  important
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  to
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  set
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  the
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  mood
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  while
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  guests
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  eat.
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  And
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  we
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  definitely
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  can't
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  forget
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  the
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  party.
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  Let's
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  get
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  the
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  party
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  started
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  right
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  now
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  with
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  the
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  DNA
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  project.
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  Wwwdnaproject.
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  CA
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  for
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  more
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  information.
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  Heart,
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  my
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  friends,
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  you
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  don't
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  even
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  know.
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  You
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  don't
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  even
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  want
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  to
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  know.
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  Don't
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  want
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  to
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  know
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  what's
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  on
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  your
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  heart.
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  Hey.
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  I
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  was
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  like,
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  who's
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  gonna
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  bring
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  the
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  energy
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  tonight?
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  All
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  right,
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  welcome
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  to
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  character.
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  Yeah,
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  welcome.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  the
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  DNA
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  airwaves.
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  We're
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  here,
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  we're
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  partying.
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  We're
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  recording
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  in
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  the
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  evening
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  for
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  the
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  first
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  time
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  ever,
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  I
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  think,
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  right?
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  Ever.
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  Yeah.
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  This
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  is
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  the
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  latest
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  recording.
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  We're
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  trying
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  it.
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  We're
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  seeing
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  how
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  it
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  feels.
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  We
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  have
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  Anthony,
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  not
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  at
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  his
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  finest
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  hour.
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  We
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  have
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  Doriki
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  Palmer,
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  always
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  at
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  his
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  finest
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  hour.
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  And
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  we
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  have
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  me,
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  Matt
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  Kessel,
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  Larry
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  David.
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  Oops.
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  Yeah,
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  we
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  were
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  just
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  talking
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  about.
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  That
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  was
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  private,
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  but
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  we
• 1:35
  were
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  just
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  talking
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  about
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  how
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  I
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  started
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  watching
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  curb
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  your
• 1:39
  enthusiasm.
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  And
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  I'm
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  coming
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  to
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  the
• 1:42
  confusing
• 1:43
  realization
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  that
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  of
• 1:44
  all
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  cinematic
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  and
• 1:46
  television
• 1:47
  characters,
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  I
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  might
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  identify
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  the
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  most
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  with
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  Larry
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  David.
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  And
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  he's
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  a
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  real
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  person.
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  Funny.
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  Yeah.
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  I
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  wonder
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  who
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  I
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  would
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  identify
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  the
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  most
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  as.
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  I
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  identify
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  a
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  lot
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  with
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  Bill
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  Burr,
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  actually.
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  Bill
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  Burr?
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  Yeah,
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  yeah,
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  yeah.
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  Why?
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  The
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  gal
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  them
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  sugar.
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  Who'd
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  I
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  be?
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  Yeah,
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  you
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  are
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  the
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  gather
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  sugar.
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  Yeah.
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  Version.
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  Like,
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  when
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  I
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  listen
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  to
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  Bill
• 2:10
  Burr,
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  I
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  know
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  that
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  type
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  of
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  guy.
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  But,
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  yeah,
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  you're
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  right.
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  I
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  don't
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  identify
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  with
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  that.
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  He
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  speaks
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  to
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  my
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  soul.
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  Wow,
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  interesting.
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  I
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  understand
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  you
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  so
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  much
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  better
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  now.
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  I
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  love
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  Bill
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  Burr.
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  I
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  know
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  so
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  much
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  of
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  his
• 2:25
  work.
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  Oh,
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  speaking
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  of
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  left
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  out
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  here.
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  Yeah,
• 2:29
  that.
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  Oh,
• 2:31
  no,
• 2:31
  it's
• 2:31
  a
• 2:31
  Bill
• 2:31
  Burr
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  thing.
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  We
• 2:32
  can
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  talk
• 2:32
  about
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  that.
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  Oh,
• 2:34
  got
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  you,
• 2:36
  Billiam
• 2:36
  Burlington.
• 2:37
  Super
• 2:37
  left
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  out.
• 2:38
  So
• 2:38
  this
• 2:39
  is
• 2:39
  the
• 2:39
  first
• 2:40
  time
• 2:40
  we've
• 2:40
  all
• 2:40
  been
• 2:40
  together
• 2:40
  in
• 2:41
  a
• 2:41
  while.
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  How
• 2:41
  is
• 2:42
  everybody?
• 2:43
  Yeah,
• 2:43
  yeah,
• 2:43
  good.
• 2:44
  It's
• 2:44
  been
• 2:44
  a
• 2:44
  minute.
• 2:45
  Summer
• 2:46
  is
• 2:46
  basically
• 2:46
  over.
• 2:50
  Yeah.
• 2:50
  I
• 2:51
  don't
• 2:51
  know.
• 2:51
  September
• 2:51
  can
• 2:51
  be
• 2:52
  pretty
• 2:52
  summery.
• 2:53
  Yeah,
• 2:54
  that's
• 2:54
  true.
• 2:55
  Yeah.
• 2:55
  I
• 2:55
  was
• 2:55
  out
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  in
• 2:56
  a
• 2:56
  t
• 2:56
  shirt
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  this
• 2:57
  morning
• 2:57
  and
• 2:57
  it
• 2:58
  was
• 2:58
  very
• 2:58
  cold
• 2:59
  and
• 2:59
  I
• 2:59
  had
• 2:59
  to
• 2:59
  go
• 2:59
  inside.
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  Yep.
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  Summary.
• 3:02
  Yeah,
• 3:02
  I
• 3:03
  know
• 3:03
  the
• 3:03
  last
• 3:03
  few
• 3:03
  mornings
• 3:04
  have
• 3:04
  been
• 3:04
  quite
• 3:05
  cold,
• 3:05
  actually.
• 3:05
  Really
• 3:06
  crisp,
• 3:06
  so.
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  And
• 3:07
  evenings
• 3:08
  too.
• 3:08
  Yeah.
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  Crips.
• 3:09
  Yeah,
• 3:10
  man.
• 3:10
  Cripps
• 3:10
  P.
• 3:11
  Crips
• 3:12
  P.
• 3:12
  Is
• 3:12
  that
• 3:12
  your
• 3:13
  name?
• 3:14
  Crips
• 3:14
  P.
• 3:15
  Crips
• 3:16
  P.
• 3:16
  Have
• 3:16
  I
• 3:17
  ever
• 3:17
  told
• 3:17
  you
• 3:17
  that
• 3:17
  one
• 3:17
  time
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  someone
• 3:18
  thought
• 3:18
  my
• 3:18
  name
• 3:18
  was
• 3:19
  Greasy?
• 3:20
  Greasy?
• 3:20
  Greasy.
• 3:21
  I
• 3:21
  feel
• 3:22
  like
• 3:22
  you
• 3:22
  did
• 3:22
  tell
• 3:22
  us,
• 3:22
  and
• 3:23
  it's
• 3:23
  funnier
• 3:23
  the
• 3:23
  second
• 3:24
  time,
• 3:24
  but
• 3:24
  how
• 3:25
  dear
• 3:25
  that
• 3:25
  was.
• 3:25
  No,
• 3:25
  no.
• 3:25
  Where
• 3:25
  did
• 3:26
  it
• 3:26
  happen?
• 3:26
  I
• 3:26
  don't
• 3:26
  remember
• 3:27
  the
• 3:27
  details.
• 3:28
  It
• 3:29
  was
• 3:29
  like,
• 3:29
  oh,
• 3:29
  no.
• 3:30
  Yeah,
• 3:30
  tell
• 3:30
  me.
• 3:30
  I
• 3:30
  was
• 3:30
  gonna
• 3:30
  try.
• 3:31
  I
• 3:31
  don't
• 3:31
  wanna
• 3:31
  say
• 3:31
  where,
• 3:31
  but
• 3:32
  it
• 3:32
  was
• 3:32
  like
• 3:32
  one
• 3:32
  of,
• 3:32
  like,
• 3:32
  a
• 3:33
  big
• 3:33
  job
• 3:33
  that
• 3:33
  I.
• 3:35
  And
• 3:35
  she
• 3:35
  was
• 3:36
  introducing
• 3:36
  me
• 3:36
  to
• 3:36
  people.
• 3:37
  And
• 3:37
  then,
• 3:37
  like,
• 3:37
  my
• 3:38
  boss's
• 3:38
  boss
• 3:38
  is
• 3:39
  just
• 3:39
  kind
• 3:39
  of
• 3:39
  like
• 3:40
  half
• 3:40
  ass
• 3:40
  paying
• 3:41
  attention.
• 3:41
  He's
• 3:41
  like,
• 3:42
  oh,
• 3:42
  this
• 3:42
  is
• 3:42
  our
• 3:42
  new
• 3:42
  hire,
• 3:43
  Dorique.
• 3:43
  He's
• 3:43
  like,
• 3:44
  nice
• 3:44
  to
• 3:44
  meet
• 3:44
  you,
• 3:44
  greasy.
• 3:45
  And
• 3:45
  I'm
• 3:45
  like,
• 3:47
  he
• 3:47
  didn't
• 3:47
  even
• 3:48
  ask
• 3:48
  for
• 3:49
  clarification.
• 3:50
  No,
• 3:50
  I
• 3:51
  think
• 3:51
  he
• 3:51
  did.
• 3:51
  Oh,
• 3:51
  no,
• 3:51
  I
• 3:51
  think
• 3:52
  he
• 3:52
  went
• 3:52
  greasy.
• 3:53
  And
• 3:53
  I
• 3:53
  was
• 3:53
  like,
• 3:54
  uh,
• 3:55
  all
• 3:55
  the
• 3:56
  guesses,
• 3:56
  you
• 3:56
  thought
• 3:57
  greasy?
• 3:58
  No,
• 3:59
  Doriaki.
• 3:59
  And
• 4:00
  he's
• 4:00
  like,
• 4:00
  okay.
• 4:01
  That's
• 4:01
  what
• 4:02
  he
• 4:02
  said.
• 4:02
  Okay.
• 4:03
  And
• 4:03
  just
• 4:03
  like,
• 4:03
  shut
• 4:03
  my
• 4:04
  hands.
• 4:04
  Like,
• 4:04
  get
• 4:05
  out
• 4:05
  of
• 4:05
  here
• 4:05
  types.
• 4:06
  Those
• 4:06
  types.
• 4:06
  Mandy,
• 4:07
  how'd
• 4:08
  you
• 4:08
  feel?
• 4:08
  How'd
• 4:09
  you
• 4:09
  feel
• 4:09
  at
• 4:09
  that
• 4:09
  moment?
• 4:10
  I
• 4:11
  felt
• 4:11
  violent.
• 4:14
  I
• 4:14
  thought
• 4:14
  you
• 4:14
  were
• 4:14
  gonna
• 4:14
  say
• 4:14
  violated,
• 4:15
  but
• 4:16
  violent.
• 4:16
  Yeah.
• 4:16
  No,
• 4:17
  violent.
• 4:17
  Like,
• 4:18
  I
• 4:18
  felt
• 4:18
  like,
• 4:18
  fair
• 4:18
  enough.
• 4:20
  Pay
• 4:20
  attention.
• 4:21
  You
• 4:21
  know,
• 4:22
  you
• 4:22
  better
• 4:22
  listen
• 4:23
  up.
• 4:24
  Yeah.
• 4:25
  There
• 4:26
  once
• 4:26
  was
• 4:27
  a
• 4:28
  Tim
• 4:28
  Hortons
• 4:30
  employee
• 4:31
  at
• 4:31
  a
• 4:31
  Tim
• 4:32
  Hortons
• 4:32
  I
• 4:32
  frequented
• 4:33
  named
• 4:34
  Schweitz.
• 4:38
  And
• 4:38
  one
• 4:38
  time
• 4:39
  he
• 4:39
  was
• 4:39
  amazing.
• 4:40
  Like,
• 4:40
  he
• 4:40
  just
• 4:40
  got
• 4:40
  everything
• 4:40
  done
• 4:41
  very
• 4:41
  quickly,
• 4:42
  didn't
• 4:42
  speak
• 4:43
  much
• 4:43
  English.
• 4:43
  And
• 4:43
  one
• 4:44
  time
• 4:46
  I
• 4:46
  approached
• 4:47
  him
• 4:47
  and
• 4:47
  asked
• 4:48
  him,
• 4:48
  how
• 4:49
  is
• 4:49
  the
• 4:49
  orange
• 4:49
  juice
• 4:50
  here?
• 4:51
  And
• 4:51
  he
• 4:51
  said,
• 4:51
  yes,
• 4:52
  and
• 4:52
  gave
• 4:52
  me
• 4:52
  orange
• 4:53
  juice.
• 4:55
  That
• 4:55
  is
• 4:55
  my
• 4:56
  story.
• 4:57
  I
• 4:57
  feel
• 4:57
  like
• 4:57
  that's
• 4:57
  a
• 4:57
  Larry
• 4:58
  David
• 4:58
  story,
• 4:58
  and
• 4:58
  then
• 4:58
  I
• 4:58
  have
• 4:59
  to
• 4:59
  buy
• 4:59
  it.
• 5:00
  Oh,
• 5:00
  I
• 5:00
  see
• 5:01
  what's
• 5:01
  happening.
• 5:02
  You're
• 5:02
  becoming
• 5:03
  the
• 5:03
  character
• 5:04
  that
• 5:04
  you
• 5:05
  identify
• 5:05
  with.
• 5:07
  This
• 5:07
  is
• 5:07
  a
• 5:07
  true
• 5:08
  story.
• 5:08
  That
• 5:08
  is
• 5:08
  a
• 5:08
  Larry
• 5:09
  David
• 5:09
  story,
• 5:09
  though.
• 5:10
  We
• 5:10
  do
• 5:10
  become
• 5:10
  who
• 5:11
  we.
• 5:11
  Who
• 5:11
  we
• 5:11
  envision
• 5:12
  ourselves
• 5:13
  being.
• 5:13
  So
• 5:14
  cool.
• 5:16
  Larry,
• 5:17
  for
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  rest
• 5:17
  of
• 5:17
  this
• 5:18
  podcast,
• 5:18
  which
• 5:18
  is
• 5:19
  about
• 5:20
  25
• 5:20
  more
• 5:20
  minutes,
• 5:21
  because
• 5:21
  if
• 5:21
  you
• 5:21
  know
• 5:21
  Anthony,
• 5:22
  it's
• 5:22
  almost
• 5:23
  my
• 5:23
  bedtime,
• 5:23
  fellas.
• 5:24
  I
• 5:24
  got,
• 5:25
  like,
• 5:28
  literally
• 5:28
  now
• 5:29
  what
• 5:29
  do
• 5:29
  me
• 5:29
  depends
• 5:30
  on
• 5:30
  the
• 5:30
  night.
• 5:30
  Tonight,
• 5:31
  it's
• 5:32
  about
• 5:32
  08:00
• 5:32
  now,
• 5:33
  if
• 5:33
  we're
• 5:34
  getting
• 5:34
  that
• 5:34
  much
• 5:34
  into
• 5:34
  detail.
• 5:34
  And
• 5:35
  I'd
• 5:35
  like
• 5:35
  to
• 5:35
  be
• 5:35
  in
• 5:35
  bed
• 5:35
  by
• 5:36
  945,
• 5:37
  the
• 5:38
  latest.
• 5:39
  Hmm.
• 5:40
  Wow.
• 5:40
  That's
• 5:40
  fair.
• 5:41
  And
• 5:41
  then
• 5:41
  you
• 5:41
  wake
• 5:41
  up,
• 5:43
  230
• 5:44
  in
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  morning.
• 5:45
  To
• 5:45
  be
• 5:46
  honest,
• 5:46
  I'm
• 5:46
  just
• 5:46
  feeling
• 5:47
  tired,
• 5:47
  and
• 5:48
  I
• 5:48
  don't
• 5:48
  want
• 5:48
  to
• 5:48
  wake
• 5:48
  up
• 5:49
  early.
• 5:50
  I
• 5:50
  would
• 5:50
  like
• 5:50
  to
• 5:50
  sleep
• 5:50
  from
• 5:51
  945
• 5:52
  till
• 5:53
  745,
• 5:54
  and
• 5:54
  I'll
• 5:54
  wake
• 5:54
  up
• 5:54
  feeling
• 5:54
  very
• 5:55
  accomplished
• 5:55
  tomorrow
• 5:55
  if
• 5:56
  that
• 5:56
  happens.
• 5:57
  The
• 5:57
  most
• 5:57
  accomplished.
• 5:58
  Wow.
• 5:59
  Wow.
• 6:00
  945
• 6:00
  to
• 6:01
  745.
• 6:01
  This
• 6:01
  is
• 6:02
  my
• 6:02
  goal.
• 6:03
  Good
• 6:04
  luck.
• 6:04
  Someone's
• 6:04
  listening.
• 6:05
  Like,
• 6:05
  wow.
• 6:05
  Take
• 6:05
  anything
• 6:06
  to
• 6:06
  fall
• 6:06
  asleep
• 6:07
  or.
• 6:08
  No,
• 6:09
  I
• 6:09
  do
• 6:09
  have
• 6:09
  some
• 6:09
  melatonin.
• 6:10
  I
• 6:10
  don't
• 6:11
  usually
• 6:11
  dabble
• 6:12
  too
• 6:12
  often,
• 6:13
  but
• 6:14
  I
• 6:14
  took
• 6:14
  it
• 6:14
  once,
• 6:15
  and
• 6:15
  I.
• 6:15
  It's
• 6:16
  one
• 6:16
  of
• 6:16
  those,
• 6:16
  yeah,
• 6:17
  super.
• 6:18
  One
• 6:18
  of
• 6:18
  those
• 6:19
  things
• 6:19
  where
• 6:19
  you'll
• 6:19
  take
• 6:19
  something
• 6:20
  in
• 6:20
  the
• 6:20
  anticipations,
• 6:21
  like,
• 6:21
  yes,
• 6:21
  here
• 6:21
  we
• 6:22
  go.
• 6:22
  Bedtime.
• 6:23
  And
• 6:23
  then
• 6:23
  either
• 6:24
  you
• 6:24
  knock
• 6:24
  out
• 6:24
  hard
• 6:25
  and
• 6:25
  wake
• 6:25
  up,
• 6:25
  like
• 6:25
  an
• 6:26
  hour
• 6:26
  later,
• 6:26
  and
• 6:27
  I'm
• 6:27
  wired
• 6:27
  for
• 6:28
  the
• 6:28
  rest
• 6:28
  of
• 6:28
  the
• 6:28
  night.
• 6:28
  Like,
• 6:29
  stuff
• 6:29
  like
• 6:29
  that
• 6:29
  happens,
• 6:30
  so.
• 6:30
  Right.
• 6:31
  I
• 6:31
  can't
• 6:31
  mess
• 6:32
  around.
• 6:32
  I'm
• 6:32
  tired
• 6:33
  now,
• 6:33
  so
• 6:33
  I
• 6:33
  just
• 6:33
  got
• 6:33
  to
• 6:33
  get
• 6:34
  this
• 6:34
  going.
• 6:34
  Matter
• 6:34
  of
• 6:34
  fact,
• 6:35
  if
• 6:35
  you
• 6:35
  guys
• 6:35
  don't
• 6:35
  mind,
• 6:36
  I'd
• 6:36
  rather
• 6:36
  just
• 6:37
  not
• 6:37
  lose
• 6:37
  this
• 6:38
  tired
• 6:38
  momentum
• 6:38
  and
• 6:39
  peace,
• 6:40
  if
• 6:40
  that's
• 6:40
  cool.
• 6:41
  Yeah.
• 6:41
  Do
• 6:42
  you
• 6:42
  want
• 6:42
  to
• 6:42
  go
• 6:42
  to
• 6:42
  bed?
• 6:43
  Stay
• 6:43
  on
• 6:43
  camera?
• 6:45
  Yeah,
• 6:45
  just
• 6:45
  go
• 6:45
  to
• 6:45
  bed
• 6:46
  on
• 6:46
  camera.
• 6:46
  Just
• 6:47
  want
• 6:47
  to
• 6:47
  see
• 6:47
  people
• 6:47
  do
• 6:48
  that.
• 6:48
  Close
• 6:48
  friends
• 6:48
  do
• 6:49
  that,
• 6:49
  I'm
• 6:49
  sure.
• 6:50
  Oh,
• 6:51
  that's
• 6:51
  funny.
• 6:51
  Imagine
• 6:52
  someone's
• 6:52
  just
• 6:52
  like,
• 6:52
  yo,
• 6:52
  I'll
• 6:53
  just
• 6:53
  sit
• 6:53
  this
• 6:53
  one
• 6:53
  out
• 6:53
  for
• 6:54
  2
• 6:54
  seconds.
• 6:55
  You
• 6:56
  guys
• 6:56
  ever
• 6:56
  done
• 6:56
  that?
• 6:57
  The.
• 6:58
  I
• 6:59
  don't
• 6:59
  know
• 6:59
  why
• 6:59
  I
• 6:59
  still
• 6:59
  want
• 7:00
  to
• 7:00
  call
• 7:00
  it
• 7:00
  skyping,
• 7:01
  zooming,
• 7:02
  or
• 7:02
  facetiming
• 7:03
  with
• 7:03
  someone
• 7:04
  without
• 7:04
  talking,
• 7:04
  like,
• 7:05
  for
• 7:05
  hours
• 7:06
  and
• 7:06
  falling
• 7:06
  asleep
• 7:06
  and
• 7:07
  stuff
• 7:07
  like
• 7:07
  that.
• 7:07
  I've
• 7:07
  seen
• 7:07
  people
• 7:08
  do
• 7:08
  that.
• 7:09
  I've
• 7:09
  seen
• 7:09
  it,
• 7:10
  too.
• 7:12
  Yeah.
• 7:13
  It's
• 7:13
  not
• 7:13
  in
• 7:13
  me
• 7:13
  to
• 7:14
  do.
• 7:14
  I'm
• 7:14
  not
• 7:14
  the
• 7:14
  guy,
• 7:14
  pal.
• 7:15
  I
• 7:15
  do
• 7:15
  that.
• 7:16
  If
• 7:16
  I
• 7:16
  was
• 7:17
  in
• 7:17
  prison
• 7:17
  and
• 7:17
  I
• 7:17
  had
• 7:18
  facetime,
• 7:19
  very
• 7:19
  different
• 7:20
  in
• 7:20
  that
• 7:20
  situation,
• 7:20
  for
• 7:20
  sure.
• 7:22
  Fall
• 7:22
  asleep
• 7:22
  talking
• 7:23
  to
• 7:23
  you.
• 7:23
  Maybe
• 7:25
  when
• 7:25
  I
• 7:25
  was
• 7:25
  younger,
• 7:25
  I
• 7:25
  think
• 7:26
  my
• 7:26
  brother's
• 7:26
  gonna
• 7:26
  punch
• 7:27
  me
• 7:27
  for
• 7:27
  sharing
• 7:27
  this,
• 7:28
  but
• 7:28
  when
• 7:28
  I
• 7:28
  was
• 7:29
  younger,
• 7:29
  my
• 7:29
  brother
• 7:30
  and
• 7:30
  his
• 7:30
  girlfriend
• 7:31
  would
• 7:31
  just
• 7:31
  stay
• 7:31
  on
• 7:32
  the
• 7:32
  phone
• 7:33
  silently,
• 7:33
  like,
• 7:34
  they
• 7:34
  wouldn't
• 7:34
  say
• 7:34
  anything
• 7:34
  together
• 7:35
  and
• 7:35
  just,
• 7:35
  like,
• 7:35
  sit
• 7:35
  there
• 7:36
  curled
• 7:36
  up
• 7:36
  in
• 7:36
  their
• 7:37
  beds,
• 7:37
  just
• 7:37
  like.
• 7:38
  And
• 7:38
  they
• 7:38
  were
• 7:38
  like,
• 7:39
  did
• 7:39
  you
• 7:39
  say
• 7:39
  something?
• 7:39
  No.
• 7:40
  And
• 7:40
  then
• 7:40
  they
• 7:40
  just
• 7:40
  kind
• 7:40
  of,
• 7:41
  like,
• 7:41
  sit
• 7:41
  there
• 7:41
  still.
• 7:42
  It
• 7:42
  was.
• 7:43
  I
• 7:43
  joked
• 7:44
  about
• 7:44
  it
• 7:44
  at
• 7:45
  the
• 7:45
  wedding
• 7:46
  because
• 7:47
  it
• 7:47
  was
• 7:47
  always
• 7:47
  a
• 7:47
  phenomenon
• 7:48
  to
• 7:48
  me.
• 7:49
  This
• 7:49
  was
• 7:49
  when
• 7:50
  evenings
• 7:50
  and
• 7:50
  weekends
• 7:51
  were
• 7:51
  already
• 7:51
  a
• 7:51
  thing.
• 7:51
  Yeah,
• 7:52
  exactly.
• 7:53
  Oh,
• 7:53
  man.
• 7:54
  Barely
• 7:55
  daytime
• 7:56
  minutes.
• 7:57
  Yeah,
• 7:58
  it
• 7:58
  was.
• 7:59
  It
• 7:59
  was
• 7:59
  weird.
• 8:00
  Yeah.
• 8:02
  Anyway,
• 8:03
  yeah.
• 8:04
  Now
• 8:04
  they
• 8:04
  got
• 8:04
  that
• 8:04
  out
• 8:04
  of
• 8:05
  the
• 8:05
  way,
• 8:05
  right?
• 8:07
  You
• 8:07
  know
• 8:07
  what?
• 8:07
  They
• 8:07
  deserve
• 8:08
  better
• 8:08
  than
• 8:08
  this
• 8:08
  for
• 8:08
  me.
• 8:09
  I
• 8:09
  got
• 8:09
  to
• 8:09
  pull
• 8:09
  it
• 8:09
  together.
• 8:10
  I
• 8:10
  may
• 8:10
  be
• 8:10
  tired.
• 8:10
  All
• 8:10
  right,
• 8:10
  let's
• 8:11
  go.
• 8:11
  What
• 8:11
  do
• 8:11
  you
• 8:11
  got,
• 8:11
  captain
• 8:12
  lead?
• 8:12
  This.
• 8:13
  Me
• 8:13
  and
• 8:13
  Matt
• 8:14
  had
• 8:14
  talked
• 8:14
  about
• 8:14
  one
• 8:15
  thing,
• 8:15
  and
• 8:15
  you
• 8:15
  and
• 8:15
  I,
• 8:16
  Doriki,
• 8:16
  had
• 8:16
  talked
• 8:16
  about
• 8:17
  another
• 8:17
  thing.
• 8:18
  So
• 8:18
  whoever
• 8:18
  says
• 8:18
  I
• 8:19
  first
• 8:19
  is
• 8:19
  gonna
• 8:20
  be
• 8:20
  the
• 8:20
  one
• 8:20
  who.
• 8:21
  Can
• 8:22
  you
• 8:22
  give
• 8:22
  us
• 8:22
  clues
• 8:22
  to
• 8:23
  talk
• 8:23
  about
• 8:23
  the
• 8:23
  thing?
• 8:24
  No,
• 8:24
  that's
• 8:24
  it.
• 8:25
  Then
• 8:25
  you
• 8:26
  say
• 8:26
  I
• 8:26
  or
• 8:26
  Doriki,
• 8:27
  just.
• 8:27
  Cause
• 8:27
  you
• 8:27
  said,
• 8:27
  who
• 8:28
  said
• 8:28
  I
• 8:28
  first,
• 8:28
  but
• 8:28
  didn't
• 8:29
  say
• 8:29
  what
• 8:29
  was
• 8:29
  gonna
• 8:29
  happen.
• 8:30
  Oh,
• 8:30
  okay,
• 8:31
  fair
• 8:31
  enough.
• 8:31
  Took
• 8:32
  a
• 8:32
  while
• 8:32
  to
• 8:32
  reveal
• 8:32
  what
• 8:32
  was
• 8:33
  gonna
• 8:33
  happen.
• 8:33
  So
• 8:33
  it's
• 8:34
  like,
• 8:34
  let's
• 8:35
  rush
• 8:35
  into
• 8:35
  the
• 8:35
  eye.
• 8:36
  There's
• 8:36
  no
• 8:36
  one
• 8:36
  rushing.
• 8:37
  All
• 8:38
  right.
• 8:38
  Just
• 8:38
  quietly
• 8:38
  do
• 8:38
  it.
• 8:39
  No,
• 8:39
  I
• 8:39
  said
• 8:39
  I
• 8:39
  already
• 8:40
  after
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  found
• 8:40
  out.
• 8:41
  Oh,
• 8:42
  wow.
• 8:42
  I
• 8:42
  had
• 8:42
  missed
• 8:42
  that
• 8:43
  whole
• 8:43
  thing.
• 8:44
  We,
• 8:44
  like,
• 8:44
  hit
• 8:44
  the
• 8:44
  climax
• 8:45
  and
• 8:45
  fell
• 8:46
  flat
• 8:46
  because
• 8:46
  I
• 8:46
  wasn't
• 8:47
  paying
• 8:47
  attention.
• 8:48
  That's
• 8:48
  cool.
• 8:49
  So,
• 8:50
  man,
• 8:50
  I'm
• 8:50
  gonna
• 8:50
  need
• 8:50
  a
• 8:50
  lot
• 8:51
  of
• 8:51
  energy
• 8:51
  for
• 8:51
  this.
• 8:53
  So
• 8:53
  member
• 8:53
  Doriki?
• 8:54
  I'm
• 8:54
  just
• 8:54
  joking.
• 8:54
  We
• 8:54
  had
• 8:54
  talked
• 8:55
  about
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  five
• 8:56
  or
• 8:56
  a
• 8:56
  bunch
• 8:56
  of
• 8:56
  things
• 8:56
  that
• 8:57
  musicians
• 8:57
  should
• 8:57
  stop
• 8:58
  doing,
• 8:58
  and
• 8:58
  I
• 8:59
  was
• 8:59
  like,
• 8:59
  right,
• 9:00
  I
• 9:00
  was
• 9:00
  in
• 9:00
  that
• 9:00
  place,
• 9:01
  and
• 9:01
  I
• 9:01
  was
• 9:01
  just
• 9:01
  like,
• 9:01
  man,
• 9:01
  they
• 9:02
  gotta
• 9:02
  stop
• 9:02
  doing.
• 9:03
  Did
• 9:03
  I
• 9:03
  tell
• 9:03
  you?
• 9:03
  No,
• 9:04
  I
• 9:04
  didn't.
• 9:04
  No,
• 9:05
  you
• 9:05
  didn't
• 9:05
  reveal
• 9:05
  it.
• 9:05
  I
• 9:06
  revealed
• 9:06
  it
• 9:06
  even
• 9:07
  better.
• 9:07
  So
• 9:07
  this
• 9:08
  will
• 9:08
  be
• 9:08
  a
• 9:08
  surprise
• 9:08
  to
• 9:09
  you,
• 9:10
  you
• 9:10
  and
• 9:10
  all
• 9:11
  of
• 9:11
  you.
• 9:11
  So
• 9:12
  I'm
• 9:12
  going
• 9:12
  to
• 9:12
  break
• 9:12
  them
• 9:12
  down.
• 9:12
  I'll
• 9:13
  just
• 9:13
  spit
• 9:13
  them
• 9:13
  out,
• 9:13
  because
• 9:13
  I
• 9:13
  don't
• 9:14
  really
• 9:14
  have
• 9:14
  time
• 9:14
  and
• 9:14
  the
• 9:15
  energy.
• 9:15
  I'm
• 9:15
  just
• 9:15
  joking.
• 9:16
  Oh,
• 9:16
  I
• 9:16
  remember.
• 9:17
  No,
• 9:17
  you
• 9:17
  don't
• 9:18
  remember.
• 9:18
  You're
• 9:19
  supposed
• 9:19
  to
• 9:19
  be
• 9:19
  surprised.
• 9:19
  Yeah,
• 9:20
  we
• 9:20
  talked
• 9:20
  about
• 9:20
  it
• 9:20
  briefly,
• 9:21
  too,
• 9:21
  right?
• 9:21
  Yeah,
• 9:22
  yeah,
• 9:22
  yeah,
• 9:22
  yeah.
• 9:22
  So
• 9:23
  I'm
• 9:23
  going
• 9:23
  to
• 9:23
  spit
• 9:23
  them
• 9:23
  out,
• 9:24
  and
• 9:24
  then
• 9:24
  we
• 9:24
  can
• 9:24
  talk
• 9:25
  about
• 9:25
  that
• 9:25
  for
• 9:25
  a
• 9:25
  little
• 9:25
  while.
• 9:26
  And
• 9:26
  if
• 9:26
  you
• 9:26
  guys
• 9:26
  think
• 9:26
  they
• 9:27
  suck,
• 9:27
  then
• 9:27
  maybe
• 9:28
  you
• 9:28
  fall
• 9:28
  into
• 9:28
  the
• 9:28
  category
• 9:29
  of
• 9:29
  these
• 9:29
  people
• 9:29
  that
• 9:29
  I'm
• 9:30
  actually
• 9:31
  sick
• 9:31
  and
• 9:31
  tired
• 9:31
  of
• 9:32
  dealing
• 9:32
  with.
• 9:35
  In
• 9:35
  no
• 9:35
  particular
• 9:36
  order,
• 9:36
  though,
• 9:36
  because
• 9:36
  I
• 9:37
  hadn't
• 9:37
  got
• 9:37
  that
• 9:37
  far.
• 9:38
  So
• 9:39
  these
• 9:39
  are
• 9:39
  the
• 9:39
  top
• 9:39
  five
• 9:40
  things
• 9:40
  that
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  believe
• 9:41
  musicians
• 9:41
  need
• 9:41
  to
• 9:42
  stop
• 9:42
  doing
• 9:43
  now,
• 9:44
  exclamation
• 9:44
  mark
• 9:46
  number
• 9:46
  one.
• 9:47
  Let's
• 9:47
  see
• 9:48
  if
• 9:48
  you're
• 9:48
  surprised
• 9:48
  by
• 9:48
  any
• 9:49
  of
• 9:49
  these
• 9:49
  at
• 9:49
  all,
• 9:49
  too.
• 9:50
  Not
• 9:51
  replying
• 9:51
  to
• 9:51
  emails.
• 9:56
  Are
• 9:56
  these?
• 9:57
  Because
• 9:57
  I
• 9:57
  feel
• 9:58
  like
• 9:58
  they're
• 9:58
  all
• 9:58
  going
• 9:58
  to
• 9:58
  be
• 9:59
  pretty
• 9:59
  specific
• 9:59
  to
• 9:59
  any
• 10:00
  professional,
• 10:00
  I
• 10:00
  guess.
• 10:00
  No,
• 10:01
  you're
• 10:01
  going
• 10:01
  to
• 10:01
  get
• 10:01
  into
• 10:02
  music
• 10:02
  here,
• 10:02
  too,
• 10:03
  but
• 10:03
  never
• 10:03
  find
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  email.
• 10:04
  This
• 10:05
  is
• 10:05
  a
• 10:05
  podcast
• 10:05
  for
• 10:05
  musicians.
• 10:06
  Sorry,
• 10:08
  I
• 10:08
  know.
• 10:08
  No,
• 10:08
  you're
• 10:08
  right.
• 10:09
  It
• 10:09
  could
• 10:09
  be
• 10:09
  for
• 10:09
  anyone.
• 10:10
  I'm
• 10:10
  sure
• 10:10
  if
• 10:10
  you're
• 10:10
  a
• 10:10
  postman,
• 10:11
  this
• 10:11
  is
• 10:12
  going
• 10:12
  to
• 10:12
  apply
• 10:12
  to
• 10:12
  you
• 10:12
  too.
• 10:13
  You
• 10:13
  got
• 10:13
  to
• 10:13
  reply.
• 10:14
  But
• 10:14
  that
• 10:14
  one's
• 10:14
  transferable
• 10:15
  is
• 10:15
  all
• 10:15
  he's
• 10:15
  saying.
• 10:15
  No.
• 10:15
  And
• 10:16
  I
• 10:16
  agree.
• 10:16
  Yeah.
• 10:16
  No.
• 10:16
  If
• 10:17
  you're
• 10:17
  a
• 10:17
  post
• 10:17
  person
• 10:18
  and
• 10:18
  you're.
• 10:18
  And
• 10:18
  you
• 10:19
  don't
• 10:19
  reply
• 10:19
  to
• 10:19
  emails,
• 10:19
  might
• 10:20
  be
• 10:21
  specific.
• 10:21
  Awful.
• 10:22
  On
• 10:23
  a
• 10:23
  federal
• 10:23
  level.
• 10:25
  Postman.
• 10:25
  Okay.
• 10:26
  All
• 10:26
  right.
• 10:26
  Yeah.
• 10:27
  The
• 10:27
  guy
• 10:27
  in
• 10:27
  the
• 10:27
  short.
• 10:27
  I
• 10:27
  don't
• 10:28
  know
• 10:28
  why
• 10:28
  it
• 10:28
  sounds
• 10:28
  different.
• 10:28
  I've
• 10:29
  actually
• 10:29
  never
• 10:29
  said
• 10:29
  post
• 10:30
  person
• 10:30
  before,
• 10:30
  so
• 10:31
  I'm
• 10:31
  ashamed
• 10:32
  of
• 10:32
  myself.
• 10:32
  You're
• 10:33
  right.
• 10:33
  My
• 10:34
  band
• 10:34
  has
• 10:35
  a
• 10:35
  band.
• 10:36
  No,
• 10:36
  please
• 10:36
  go
• 10:36
  on.
• 10:39
  Do
• 10:39
  you
• 10:39
  really?
• 10:40
  Yeah.
• 10:43
  Okay.
• 10:50
  It's
• 10:50
  on
• 10:51
  our
• 10:51
  second
• 10:51
  album.
• 10:52
  How
• 10:53
  many
• 10:53
  albums
• 10:53
  do
• 10:53
  you
• 10:53
  have?
• 10:54
  Three.
• 10:55
  And
• 10:55
  there's
• 10:55
  a
• 10:55
  fourth
• 10:56
  one
• 10:56
  coming
• 10:56
  up.
• 10:58
  Cool.
• 11:00
  Please
• 11:01
  continue.
• 11:01
  Okay,
• 11:01
  so
• 11:02
  number
• 11:02
  one.
• 11:02
  Okay,
• 11:03
  don't.
• 11:04
  Don't
• 11:04
  reply
• 11:04
  to
• 11:04
  emails.
• 11:05
  No,
• 11:06
  no.
• 11:06
  Don't
• 11:06
  tell
• 11:06
  them
• 11:07
  not
• 11:07
  to
• 11:07
  reply
• 11:07
  to
• 11:07
  emails.
• 11:07
  Because
• 11:08
  people
• 11:08
  who
• 11:08
  do
• 11:08
  not
• 11:09
  reply
• 11:09
  to
• 11:09
  email.
• 11:10
  Sorry.
• 11:11
  Doing
• 11:11
  that.
• 11:12
  Yes.
• 11:12
  Stop
• 11:12
  doing
• 11:13
  that
• 11:13
  thing.
• 11:13
  Okay.
• 11:14
  I'm
• 11:14
  not
• 11:15
  gonna
• 11:15
  tell
• 11:15
  you
• 11:15
  why.
• 11:15
  Because
• 11:16
  you.
• 11:16
  There's
• 11:16
  so
• 11:16
  many
• 11:16
  reasons
• 11:17
  why
• 11:17
  you're
• 11:18
  gonna
• 11:18
  miss.
• 11:18
  Give
• 11:18
  us
• 11:18
  a
• 11:18
  couple.
• 11:19
  It's
• 11:19
  your
• 11:20
  list.
• 11:20
  You're
• 11:20
  gonna
• 11:20
  miss
• 11:20
  out
• 11:20
  on
• 11:20
  work.
• 11:22
  It's
• 11:22
  gonna
• 11:23
  seem
• 11:23
  like
• 11:23
  you
• 11:23
  don't
• 11:24
  care.
• 11:24
  I.
• 11:25
  Yep,
• 11:25
  yep.
• 11:28
  It
• 11:28
  drives
• 11:29
  me.
• 11:29
  Seeming
• 11:29
  like
• 11:29
  you
• 11:29
  don't
• 11:30
  care
• 11:30
  is
• 11:31
  massive.
• 11:32
  Cuz
• 11:33
  nobody
• 11:33
  wants
• 11:33
  to
• 11:34
  work
• 11:34
  with
• 11:34
  somebody
• 11:34
  who
• 11:35
  appears
• 11:35
  like
• 11:35
  they
• 11:35
  don't
• 11:36
  care.
• 11:37
  Right.
• 11:37
  That's.
• 11:38
  That's
• 11:38
  a
• 11:39
  huge
• 11:39
  one
• 11:39
  for
• 11:39
  me.
• 11:39
  Right.
• 11:40
  If
• 11:40
  you're
• 11:40
  not.
• 11:41
  People
• 11:41
  want
• 11:41
  to
• 11:41
  be
• 11:41
  in
• 11:41
  a
• 11:41
  fun
• 11:42
  environment
• 11:43
  when
• 11:43
  they're
• 11:43
  at
• 11:44
  work.
• 11:45
  Yeah.
• 11:46
  You
• 11:46
  want
• 11:46
  to
• 11:47
  be.
• 11:47
  Want
• 11:47
  to
• 11:47
  keep
• 11:47
  me
• 11:48
  happy
• 11:48
  or
• 11:48
  professional.
• 11:49
  You
• 11:49
  know,
• 11:49
  bare
• 11:50
  minimum,
• 11:50
  it
• 11:50
  doesn't
• 11:50
  need
• 11:50
  to
• 11:50
  be
• 11:50
  fun,
• 11:51
  but
• 11:51
  you
• 11:52
  want
• 11:52
  to.
• 11:52
  Get
• 11:52
  the
• 11:52
  job
• 11:53
  done,
• 11:53
  you
• 11:53
  know?
• 11:54
  And
• 11:54
  I
• 11:54
  get
• 11:54
  it.
• 11:54
  Cause
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  musician
• 11:55
  side
• 11:55
  is
• 11:56
  the
• 11:56
  creative,
• 11:56
  so
• 11:56
  it's
• 11:57
  not.
• 11:57
  It's
• 11:57
  tough.
• 11:57
  Not
• 11:58
  everyone
• 11:58
  has
• 11:58
  that
• 11:58
  balance
• 11:59
  between,
• 12:00
  you
• 12:00
  know,
• 12:00
  the
• 12:01
  administrative
• 12:01
  parts
• 12:01
  of
• 12:02
  it
• 12:02
  and
• 12:02
  being
• 12:02
  a
• 12:02
  musician
• 12:03
  and
• 12:03
  creative.
• 12:03
  But
• 12:04
  it's
• 12:04
  important.
• 12:04
  It's
• 12:05
  important.
• 12:05
  This
• 12:05
  is
• 12:05
  how
• 12:05
  we
• 12:05
  communicate.
• 12:07
  Agreed.
• 12:08
  Thank
• 12:09
  you.
• 12:09
  I
• 12:09
  got
• 12:09
  that
• 12:10
  off
• 12:10
  my
• 12:10
  chest.
• 12:10
  I'm
• 12:10
  actually
• 12:11
  starting
• 12:11
  to
• 12:11
  feel
• 12:11
  better.
• 12:11
  One
• 12:12
  by
• 12:12
  one.
• 12:12
  I
• 12:12
  can't
• 12:12
  wait
• 12:12
  to
• 12:13
  get
• 12:13
  to
• 12:13
  number
• 12:13
  five.
• 12:13
  Alright.
• 12:13
  Alright,
• 12:13
  let's
• 12:14
  go.
• 12:14
  Okay,
• 12:14
  so
• 12:15
  number
• 12:15
  two.
• 12:16
  Number
• 12:16
  two.
• 12:17
  Oh,
• 12:18
  man.
• 12:18
  This
• 12:18
  might
• 12:18
  be
• 12:18
  okay.
• 12:19
  Not
• 12:20
  having
• 12:20
  solutions
• 12:21
  when
• 12:22
  a
• 12:22
  problem
• 12:22
  is
• 12:22
  presented.
• 12:23
  For
• 12:24
  instance,
• 12:24
  somebody
• 12:25
  saying
• 12:26
  I'm
• 12:27
  like,
• 12:27
  hey,
• 12:29
  hey,
• 12:29
  Doriki,
• 12:30
  I'm
• 12:30
  no
• 12:30
  longer
• 12:30
  available
• 12:31
  for
• 12:31
  this
• 12:31
  thing
• 12:31
  that
• 12:32
  I
• 12:32
  had
• 12:32
  said.
• 12:32
  I'm
• 12:32
  available
• 12:33
  for
• 12:34
  the
• 12:34
  end.
• 12:35
  Should
• 12:35
  that
• 12:35
  be
• 12:35
  the
• 12:35
  end,
• 12:36
  though?
• 12:38
  You
• 12:38
  taught
• 12:39
  me
• 12:39
  this.
• 12:39
  To
• 12:39
  be
• 12:40
  honest
• 12:40
  with
• 12:40
  you,
• 12:40
  as
• 12:41
  a
• 12:41
  music
• 12:41
  maybe.
• 12:41
  Cause
• 12:42
  you
• 12:42
  have
• 12:42
  a
• 12:42
  lot
• 12:42
  more
• 12:43
  experience
• 12:43
  in
• 12:43
  this
• 12:44
  situation,
• 12:45
  and
• 12:46
  I've
• 12:46
  seen
• 12:47
  personally
• 12:47
  what
• 12:47
  you
• 12:48
  do
• 12:48
  in
• 12:48
  that
• 12:48
  situation.
• 12:49
  So
• 12:49
  I
• 12:49
  already
• 12:49
  know
• 12:50
  that
• 12:50
  it's
• 12:51
  a
• 12:51
  no
• 12:51
  no
• 12:52
  just
• 12:52
  by
• 12:52
  your
• 12:52
  standards.
• 12:53
  But
• 12:54
  I
• 12:55
  never
• 12:55
  knew
• 12:55
  that
• 12:56
  it
• 12:56
  would
• 12:56
  probably
• 12:57
  be
• 12:57
  in
• 12:57
  the
• 12:57
  musician's
• 12:58
  best
• 12:58
  interest
• 12:59
  to
• 12:59
  get
• 12:59
  a
• 13:00
  replacement
• 13:00
  for
• 13:01
  them.
• 13:01
  So
• 13:02
  can
• 13:02
  you
• 13:02
  explain,
• 13:02
  maybe
• 13:03
  why
• 13:03
  you
• 13:04
  feel
• 13:04
  so
• 13:04
  strong?
• 13:04
  I
• 13:05
  agree
• 13:05
  with
• 13:05
  you.
• 13:05
  I
• 13:05
  just
• 13:05
  want
• 13:06
  you
• 13:06
  to
• 13:06
  kind
• 13:06
  of
• 13:07
  express
• 13:08
  why
• 13:08
  you
• 13:09
  believe
• 13:09
  so
• 13:09
  strongly
• 13:10
  as
• 13:10
  the
• 13:10
  musician.
• 13:10
  If
• 13:11
  you
• 13:11
  are
• 13:11
  canceling,
• 13:12
  why
• 13:12
  you
• 13:13
  should
• 13:13
  find
• 13:13
  someone
• 13:14
  to
• 13:14
  replace.
• 13:15
  No
• 13:15
  fair.
• 13:15
  That's
• 13:16
  a
• 13:16
  good
• 13:16
  question.
• 13:16
  But
• 13:17
  first,
• 13:17
  I
• 13:17
  want
• 13:17
  to
• 13:17
  ask
• 13:17
  Matt,
• 13:18
  what
• 13:18
  are
• 13:18
  your
• 13:18
  thoughts
• 13:19
  on
• 13:19
  this?
• 13:19
  Because
• 13:19
  you're
• 13:20
  a
• 13:20
  musician
• 13:20
  as
• 13:20
  well.
• 13:21
  I
• 13:22
  mean,
• 13:23
  you're
• 13:23
  free
• 13:24
  to
• 13:24
  do
• 13:24
  whatever
• 13:25
  you
• 13:25
  want
• 13:25
  if
• 13:25
  you
• 13:25
  don't
• 13:26
  want
• 13:26
  people
• 13:26
  to
• 13:26
  call
• 13:26
  you
• 13:26
  back.
• 13:28
  If
• 13:29
  we
• 13:29
  look
• 13:29
  at
• 13:29
  this
• 13:30
  from
• 13:30
  the
• 13:31
  business
• 13:31
  point
• 13:31
  of
• 13:31
  it,
• 13:32
  which,
• 13:32
  admittedly,
• 13:33
  most
• 13:33
  musicians,
• 13:34
  including
• 13:34
  myself,
• 13:34
  need
• 13:35
  to
• 13:35
  get
• 13:35
  better
• 13:35
  at,
• 13:38
  you're
• 13:38
  a
• 13:38
  skilled
• 13:39
  laborer,
• 13:39
  and
• 13:40
  replacing
• 13:40
  you
• 13:41
  isn't
• 13:41
  something
• 13:41
  that
• 13:41
  can
• 13:42
  just
• 13:42
  be
• 13:42
  done,
• 13:43
  you
• 13:43
  know,
• 13:44
  with
• 13:44
  indeed
• 13:45
  a
• 13:46
  day
• 13:46
  before.
• 13:46
  Right,
• 13:47
  right.
• 13:48
  So
• 13:49
  when
• 13:49
  you
• 13:49
  do
• 13:50
  that,
• 13:51
  you're
• 13:52
  royally
• 13:52
  messing
• 13:53
  up
• 13:54
  a
• 13:54
  bunch
• 13:54
  of
• 13:54
  things.
• 13:55
  You're
• 13:55
  messing
• 13:55
  up
• 13:56
  Anthony's
• 13:57
  reputation.
• 13:57
  In
• 13:57
  this
• 13:57
  case,
• 13:58
  you're
• 13:58
  messing
• 13:58
  up
• 13:59
  potentially
• 13:59
  a
• 13:59
  wedding
• 14:00
  or
• 14:01
  whatever.
• 14:02
  Yeah.
• 14:04
  And
• 14:04
  you're
• 14:05
  not
• 14:05
  making
• 14:06
  money.
• 14:06
  And
• 14:07
  ward
• 14:07
  travels.
• 14:08
  It's
• 14:08
  not.
• 14:08
  The
• 14:08
  industry
• 14:09
  is
• 14:09
  big,
• 14:09
  but
• 14:09
  it's
• 14:09
  not
• 14:10
  that
• 14:10
  big.
• 14:10
  People
• 14:10
  talk.
• 14:11
  And,
• 14:12
  like,
• 14:12
  I
• 14:12
  was
• 14:12
  doing
• 14:13
  a
• 14:13
  favor
• 14:14
  for.
• 14:15
  I
• 14:15
  was
• 14:15
  working
• 14:16
  for.
• 14:17
  For
• 14:17
  a
• 14:17
  friend
• 14:18
  doing
• 14:19
  sound,
• 14:19
  live
• 14:19
  sound.
• 14:20
  And
• 14:20
  the
• 14:20
  keyboard
• 14:21
  is
• 14:21
  their
• 14:21
  new
• 14:21
  Anthony.
• 14:22
  Like,
• 14:22
  it's
• 14:22
  everybody's.
• 14:23
  And
• 14:23
  he
• 14:23
  had
• 14:23
  only
• 14:24
  nice
• 14:24
  things
• 14:24
  to
• 14:24
  say
• 14:24
  about
• 14:25
  you,
• 14:25
  by
• 14:25
  the
• 14:25
  way,
• 14:25
  and
• 14:25
  the
• 14:25
  summer
• 14:26
  song.
• 14:26
  Right.
• 14:30
  And.
• 14:32
  Sorry,
• 14:33
  that's
• 14:33
  my
• 14:33
  opinion.
• 14:33
  I
• 14:34
  went
• 14:34
  on
• 14:34
  a
• 14:34
  tangent.
• 14:35
  Summer
• 14:35
  sauce,
• 14:35
  what
• 14:35
  is
• 14:35
  yours?
• 14:37
  Summer
• 14:37
  sausages.
• 14:39
  If
• 14:39
  you
• 14:39
  make
• 14:39
  an
• 14:39
  album,
• 14:40
  you
• 14:40
  have
• 14:40
  to
• 14:40
  call
• 14:40
  it
• 14:40
  summer
• 14:41
  sausages.
• 14:42
  Whoa.
• 14:42
  People
• 14:42
  will
• 14:43
  take
• 14:43
  that
• 14:43
  so
• 14:43
  wrong.
• 14:44
  No,
• 14:45
  that
• 14:45
  can
• 14:45
  also
• 14:46
  refer
• 14:46
  to
• 14:46
  your
• 14:46
  picking
• 14:47
  fingers.
• 14:48
  Boom.
• 14:49
  Autobiography.
• 14:53
  Dog.
• 14:54
  Yeah,
• 14:55
  that's
• 14:55
  actually
• 14:55
  a
• 14:55
  really
• 14:56
  good
• 14:56
  breakdown.
• 14:56
  So
• 14:56
  I'm
• 14:57
  gonna
• 14:57
  leave
• 14:57
  it
• 14:57
  right
• 14:57
  there.
• 14:58
  Okay,
• 14:59
  fair
• 14:59
  enough.
• 15:00
  We're
• 15:01
  just
• 15:01
  flying
• 15:01
  through
• 15:01
  these.
• 15:02
  I
• 15:02
  think
• 15:02
  if
• 15:02
  this
• 15:03
  was
• 15:03
  a
• 15:03
  morning
• 15:03
  podcast,
• 15:04
  I'd
• 15:04
  elaborate
• 15:04
  a
• 15:04
  lot
• 15:04
  longer
• 15:05
  on
• 15:05
  these
• 15:05
  points,
• 15:05
  but,
• 15:06
  uh.
• 15:06
  But
• 15:07
  I
• 15:07
  like
• 15:07
  these
• 15:07
  lists.
• 15:08
  We
• 15:08
  should
• 15:08
  do
• 15:09
  more
• 15:09
  of
• 15:09
  them,
• 15:09
  because
• 15:10
  it's
• 15:11
  actually,
• 15:11
  now
• 15:11
  that
• 15:11
  I'm
• 15:11
  thinking
• 15:12
  about
• 15:12
  it,
• 15:12
  the
• 15:12
  whole
• 15:13
  top
• 15:13
  five
• 15:13
  thing.
• 15:13
  But
• 15:13
  we're
• 15:13
  gonna
• 15:14
  make
• 15:14
  it
• 15:14
  more
• 15:14
  interesting
• 15:15
  because
• 15:15
  we
• 15:16
  have
• 15:16
  experienced
• 15:16
  personal
• 15:17
  touch.
• 15:17
  Number
• 15:18
  three.
• 15:19
  Number
• 15:19
  three.
• 15:20
  Number
• 15:21
  three.
• 15:21
  This
• 15:21
  one's
• 15:22
  funny,
• 15:22
  but
• 15:22
  it's
• 15:22
  not
• 15:22
  funny,
• 15:24
  but
• 15:24
  I
• 15:24
  can
• 15:24
  see
• 15:24
  how
• 15:24
  it
• 15:25
  happens.
• 15:26
  See
• 15:26
  what
• 15:26
  I'm
• 15:26
  doing.
• 15:26
  I
• 15:26
  don't
• 15:27
  know
• 15:27
  if
• 15:27
  I
• 15:27
  should
• 15:27
  laugh,
• 15:27
  then.
• 15:27
  I'm
• 15:28
  so
• 15:28
  scared.
• 15:29
  Hold
• 15:30
  on.
• 15:30
  You
• 15:31
  decide.
• 15:31
  All
• 15:32
  right,
• 15:33
  showing
• 15:33
  up
• 15:33
  unprepared,
• 15:35
  but
• 15:36
  solely
• 15:36
  based
• 15:36
  on
• 15:36
  talent.
• 15:37
  That's
• 15:38
  the
• 15:38
  thing.
• 15:39
  Yeah,
• 15:39
  so
• 15:39
  that's
• 15:40
  the
• 15:40
  thing.
• 15:40
  And
• 15:41
  this
• 15:41
  is
• 15:41
  something,
• 15:41
  as
• 15:42
  a
• 15:42
  musician,
• 15:42
  you
• 15:42
  can
• 15:43
  really
• 15:43
  get
• 15:43
  by
• 15:44
  doing
• 15:44
  maybe
• 15:44
  in
• 15:44
  other
• 15:45
  things,
• 15:45
  like
• 15:45
  public
• 15:46
  speaking,
• 15:46
  you
• 15:46
  could
• 15:46
  probably
• 15:47
  wing
• 15:47
  it.
• 15:47
  When
• 15:48
  you've
• 15:48
  put
• 15:48
  in
• 15:48
  the
• 15:48
  time
• 15:49
  and
• 15:49
  you're
• 15:50
  in
• 15:50
  music
• 15:50
  specifically,
• 15:51
  when
• 15:51
  you
• 15:51
  have
• 15:51
  the
• 15:51
  ear
• 15:52
  that
• 15:52
  you
• 15:52
  can
• 15:52
  kind
• 15:52
  of
• 15:52
  just
• 15:53
  play
• 15:53
  along.
• 15:54
  You
• 15:54
  don't
• 15:54
  really
• 15:54
  need
• 15:54
  to
• 15:54
  know
• 15:55
  the
• 15:55
  song
• 15:55
  in
• 15:55
  every
• 15:56
  situation,
• 15:56
  but
• 15:56
  you
• 15:56
  can
• 15:57
  pretty
• 15:57
  much
• 15:57
  fake
• 15:57
  your
• 15:58
  way
• 15:58
  through
• 15:58
  a
• 15:58
  lot
• 15:58
  of
• 15:59
  situations
• 16:00
  that
• 16:00
  can
• 16:00
  become
• 16:01
  the
• 16:01
  norm
• 16:01
  pretty
• 16:01
  quickly,
• 16:02
  especially
• 16:02
  when
• 16:02
  you're
• 16:03
  piling
• 16:03
  on
• 16:03
  work.
• 16:04
  You
• 16:04
  start
• 16:04
  to
• 16:05
  show
• 16:05
  up
• 16:06
  cute
• 16:07
  for
• 16:07
  a
• 16:07
  little
• 16:07
  while,
• 16:09
  but
• 16:09
  the.
• 16:10
  I
• 16:10
  guess
• 16:10
  the
• 16:10
  cuteness
• 16:10
  of
• 16:11
  it
• 16:11
  wears
• 16:11
  off
• 16:11
  pretty
• 16:12
  quickly
• 16:12
  and
• 16:12
  it
• 16:12
  catches
• 16:13
  up
• 16:13
  with
• 16:13
  you.
• 16:13
  And
• 16:13
  again,
• 16:14
  goes
• 16:14
  back
• 16:14
  to
• 16:14
  the
• 16:14
  reputation
• 16:15
  thing
• 16:16
  that
• 16:16
  Matt
• 16:16
  had
• 16:17
  mentioned
• 16:17
  earlier.
• 16:18
  What
• 16:18
  are
• 16:18
  your
• 16:18
  takes
• 16:19
  on
• 16:19
  that
• 16:19
  one,
• 16:19
  Matt?
• 16:21
  I
• 16:21
  saw
• 16:21
  this
• 16:22
  meme.
• 16:23
  No,
• 16:24
  I'm
• 16:24
  not
• 16:24
  one
• 16:24
  of
• 16:24
  those
• 16:24
  guys.
• 16:25
  Not
• 16:25
  at
• 16:25
  all.
• 16:26
  I'm
• 16:26
  obsessively.
• 16:27
  I
• 16:28
  know,
• 16:28
  I
• 16:28
  know
• 16:28
  a
• 16:28
  prepper.
• 16:30
  But
• 16:30
  I've
• 16:30
  had
• 16:30
  times
• 16:31
  where
• 16:31
  I
• 16:31
  thought
• 16:31
  I
• 16:31
  could
• 16:31
  wing
• 16:32
  it,
• 16:32
  and
• 16:32
  I,
• 16:32
  like
• 16:32
  an
• 16:33
  audition
• 16:33
  and
• 16:34
  I
• 16:34
  messed
• 16:34
  it
• 16:34
  up.
• 16:35
  And,
• 16:35
  you
• 16:35
  know,
• 16:36
  it
• 16:36
  was
• 16:36
  a
• 16:37
  band
• 16:37
  I
• 16:37
  wanted
• 16:37
  to
• 16:37
  play
• 16:37
  in,
• 16:38
  but
• 16:38
  I
• 16:39
  think
• 16:39
  a
• 16:39
  lot
• 16:39
  of
• 16:39
  musicians
• 16:39
  have
• 16:40
  had
• 16:40
  that
• 16:40
  sort
• 16:40
  of
• 16:40
  situation.
• 16:41
  You
• 16:41
  kind
• 16:41
  of
• 16:42
  learn
• 16:42
  that.
• 16:43
  What's
• 16:43
  that
• 16:44
  saying?
• 16:45
  Smart
• 16:46
  people
• 16:46
  learn
• 16:46
  from
• 16:46
  other
• 16:47
  people's
• 16:47
  mistakes.
• 16:48
  So
• 16:48
  I'm
• 16:48
  an
• 16:48
  idiot
• 16:48
  because
• 16:49
  I
• 16:49
  learn
• 16:49
  from
• 16:49
  my
• 16:49
  own
• 16:49
  mistakes.
• 16:52
  Fair
• 16:52
  enough.
• 16:52
  Many
• 16:53
  of
• 16:53
  us
• 16:53
  are.
• 16:54
  There's
• 16:54
  a
• 16:55
  meme
• 16:55
  that
• 16:55
  I
• 16:55
  saw,
• 16:56
  and
• 16:57
  I
• 16:57
  forgot
• 16:57
  the
• 16:58
  actual
• 16:58
  meme,
• 16:58
  but
• 16:58
  it
• 16:58
  was
• 16:59
  like,
• 16:59
  a
• 16:59
  person
• 17:01
  that's
• 17:01
  freaked
• 17:01
  out.
• 17:02
  And
• 17:02
  the
• 17:02
  caption
• 17:02
  said,
• 17:03
  the
• 17:03
  musician
• 17:03
  that
• 17:04
  said
• 17:04
  that,
• 17:05
  they
• 17:05
  know
• 17:05
  the
• 17:05
  song
• 17:05
  well
• 17:06
  enough
• 17:06
  when
• 17:06
  they
• 17:07
  reach
• 17:07
  the
• 17:07
  second
• 17:08
  half
• 17:08
  of
• 17:08
  the
• 17:08
  bridge.
• 17:09
  Oh.
• 17:09
  Cause
• 17:10
  they're
• 17:10
  freaking
• 17:10
  out.
• 17:10
  Cause
• 17:10
  they
• 17:10
  have
• 17:11
  no
• 17:11
  idea
• 17:11
  what's
• 17:11
  going
• 17:11
  on.
• 17:11
  Cause
• 17:11
  nobody
• 17:12
  remembers
• 17:12
  the
• 17:12
  second
• 17:12
  half
• 17:12
  of
• 17:13
  the
• 17:13
  bridge.
• 17:15
  Yeah,
• 17:15
  right,
• 17:15
  right.
• 17:16
  And
• 17:17
  if
• 17:17
  you
• 17:17
  can
• 17:17
  make
• 17:17
  it
• 17:18
  that
• 17:18
  far,
• 17:18
  you
• 17:18
  get
• 17:18
  some
• 17:18
  respect.
• 17:19
  Yeah,
• 17:20
  yeah.
• 17:20
  Cause
• 17:21
  you
• 17:21
  can
• 17:21
  remember
• 17:21
  the
• 17:21
  verse,
• 17:21
  the
• 17:22
  chorus,
• 17:22
  and
• 17:22
  then
• 17:23
  you
• 17:23
  think
• 17:23
  you
• 17:23
  remember
• 17:23
  the
• 17:23
  bridge.
• 17:24
  And
• 17:24
  then
• 17:24
  the
• 17:24
  second
• 17:24
  half
• 17:24
  of
• 17:25
  it
• 17:25
  comes,
• 17:25
  and
• 17:25
  you're
• 17:25
  like,
• 17:25
  what
• 17:25
  the
• 17:25
  hell
• 17:26
  is
• 17:26
  this
• 17:26
  part?
• 17:28
  Yeah,
• 17:28
  they
• 17:29
  added
• 17:29
  a
• 17:29
  new
• 17:29
  part
• 17:29
  to
• 17:29
  the
• 17:30
  song.
• 17:30
  Yeah,
• 17:31
  but,
• 17:32
  yeah,
• 17:33
  that's
• 17:34
  no
• 17:34
  good.
• 17:35
  And
• 17:35
  we've
• 17:36
  had
• 17:36
  that
• 17:36
  a
• 17:36
  couple
• 17:36
  of
• 17:37
  times
• 17:37
  in
• 17:37
  our
• 17:37
  band,
• 17:38
  where
• 17:38
  we
• 17:38
  were
• 17:38
  looking
• 17:38
  for
• 17:39
  a
• 17:39
  keyboardist
• 17:41
  and
• 17:43
  a
• 17:43
  few
• 17:43
  classical
• 17:44
  pianists
• 17:46
  showed
• 17:46
  up.
• 17:47
  And
• 17:47
  they
• 17:47
  had
• 17:48
  this
• 17:48
  smugness
• 17:49
  about
• 17:49
  rock
• 17:49
  in
• 17:50
  general.
• 17:51
  It
• 17:51
  seemed
• 17:51
  like
• 17:51
  they
• 17:52
  felt.
• 17:52
  It's
• 17:52
  something
• 17:53
  that
• 17:53
  I've
• 17:53
  seen
• 17:53
  a
• 17:53
  few
• 17:53
  times
• 17:54
  that
• 17:54
  they
• 17:54
  felt
• 17:54
  like,
• 17:55
  because
• 17:55
  it's
• 17:55
  rock
• 17:56
  and
• 17:56
  classical
• 17:56
  is
• 17:57
  more
• 17:57
  complicated,
• 17:58
  which
• 17:59
  it
• 17:59
  isn't.
• 17:59
  Necessarily
• 18:00
  that
• 18:01
  this
• 18:01
  should
• 18:01
  just
• 18:02
  come
• 18:02
  naturally
• 18:02
  to
• 18:02
  them
• 18:03
  and
• 18:03
  it's
• 18:03
  not
• 18:03
  a
• 18:03
  problem
• 18:03
  at
• 18:03
  all.
• 18:03
  And
• 18:04
  they
• 18:04
  came
• 18:04
  unprepared.
• 18:04
  These
• 18:05
  people
• 18:05
  that
• 18:05
  can
• 18:05
  play
• 18:06
  Rachmaninov
• 18:07
  and
• 18:07
  Bach
• 18:07
  and
• 18:07
  stuff
• 18:07
  would
• 18:08
  come
• 18:08
  unprepared
• 18:09
  and
• 18:10
  mess
• 18:10
  up,
• 18:11
  not
• 18:11
  be
• 18:11
  able
• 18:11
  to
• 18:11
  play.
• 18:12
  So
• 18:13
  that's
• 18:13
  my
• 18:13
  opinion.
• 18:14
  What
• 18:14
  do
• 18:14
  you
• 18:14
  think?
• 18:17
  You
• 18:18
  asking
• 18:18
  me
• 18:18
  or
• 18:18
  you
• 18:18
  asking
• 18:18
  D?
• 18:20
  D
• 18:21
  and
• 18:21
  then
• 18:21
  Anthony.
• 18:23
  Oh,
• 18:23
  he's
• 18:23
  a
• 18:23
  rapper.
• 18:25
  I
• 18:25
  kind
• 18:25
  of
• 18:26
  echo
• 18:26
  everything
• 18:26
  you
• 18:26
  said.
• 18:27
  I
• 18:27
  feel
• 18:28
  like
• 18:29
  it's
• 18:29
  frustrating
• 18:30
  when
• 18:30
  you
• 18:32
  practice
• 18:32
  so
• 18:33
  much
• 18:33
  and
• 18:34
  then
• 18:34
  see
• 18:34
  someone
• 18:35
  else
• 18:35
  clearly
• 18:35
  not
• 18:36
  giving
• 18:36
  a
• 18:36
  shit.
• 18:36
  That
• 18:37
  bothers
• 18:37
  me
• 18:37
  because
• 18:38
  I
• 18:38
  know
• 18:38
  the
• 18:39
  amount
• 18:39
  of
• 18:39
  work
• 18:39
  I
• 18:39
  put
• 18:40
  into
• 18:40
  preparing
• 18:40
  for
• 18:41
  a
• 18:41
  performance.
• 18:41
  And
• 18:41
  so
• 18:42
  when
• 18:42
  I
• 18:43
  see
• 18:43
  someone
• 18:44
  during
• 18:44
  rehearsal
• 18:45
  not
• 18:45
  ready,
• 18:45
  and
• 18:46
  then
• 18:46
  at
• 18:47
  the
• 18:47
  show,
• 18:47
  they
• 18:48
  barely
• 18:48
  made
• 18:49
  any,
• 18:49
  you
• 18:49
  know,
• 18:49
  improvements
• 18:50
  from
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  rehearsal,
• 18:50
  it's
• 18:51
  like,
• 18:52
  you
• 18:52
  know,
• 18:52
  it's
• 18:53
  hard.
• 18:53
  It's
• 18:53
  tough.
• 18:54
  It's
• 18:54
  tough.
• 18:55
  Yeah,
• 18:55
  yeah.
• 18:56
  There's
• 18:56
  like
• 18:56
  an
• 18:56
  arrogance
• 18:57
  too,
• 18:57
  right?
• 18:57
  Because
• 18:58
  even
• 18:58
  if
• 18:58
  somebody
• 18:59
  can
• 18:59
  show
• 19:00
  up
• 19:00
  and
• 19:00
  kill
• 19:00
  it,
• 19:00
  and
• 19:01
  to
• 19:01
  the
• 19:01
  crowd,
• 19:01
  it
• 19:01
  was
• 19:01
  a
• 19:02
  great
• 19:02
  show,
• 19:02
  but
• 19:02
  to
• 19:02
  the
• 19:03
  rest
• 19:03
  of
• 19:03
  the
• 19:03
  guys
• 19:04
  or
• 19:04
  gals
• 19:04
  or.
• 19:04
  That's
• 19:05
  a
• 19:05
  good
• 19:05
  point,
• 19:05
  too.
• 19:05
  Persons
• 19:06
  on
• 19:06
  stage,
• 19:07
  it's
• 19:07
  still
• 19:07
  like,
• 19:08
  yeah,
• 19:08
  but
• 19:08
  you
• 19:08
  didn't
• 19:09
  know
• 19:09
  the
• 19:09
  song.
• 19:09
  We're
• 19:09
  not.
• 19:10
  You're
• 19:10
  not
• 19:10
  fooling
• 19:10
  us.
• 19:11
  So
• 19:11
  after
• 19:12
  a
• 19:12
  while,
• 19:12
  that
• 19:12
  can
• 19:12
  kind
• 19:13
  of
• 19:13
  wear
• 19:13
  on
• 19:13
  you
• 19:13
  too.
• 19:14
  Like,
• 19:14
  you
• 19:15
  stop
• 19:15
  calling
• 19:15
  that
• 19:16
  person.
• 19:16
  Some
• 19:17
  people
• 19:17
  slide
• 19:17
  by
• 19:17
  because
• 19:17
  they're
• 19:18
  just
• 19:18
  that
• 19:18
  good
• 19:18
  and
• 19:18
  you
• 19:19
  still
• 19:19
  call
• 19:19
  them
• 19:19
  and
• 19:19
  you
• 19:20
  know
• 19:20
  who.
• 19:20
  You
• 19:20
  know
• 19:20
  who
• 19:20
  you
• 19:21
  are.
• 19:21
  Have
• 19:22
  you
• 19:22
  ever
• 19:22
  done
• 19:22
  that,
• 19:22
  Anthony?
• 19:23
  Have
• 19:23
  you
• 19:23
  ever
• 19:23
  just
• 19:23
  looked
• 19:24
  at
• 19:24
  a
• 19:24
  cue
• 19:25
  sheet
• 19:26
  and
• 19:26
  just.
• 19:27
  Yeah.
• 19:27
  What
• 19:28
  key
• 19:28
  it
• 19:28
  is?
• 19:28
  Okay,
• 19:29
  I
• 19:29
  gotta
• 19:29
  keep
• 19:29
  going.
• 19:30
  Yeah,
• 19:31
  I
• 19:31
  found
• 19:31
  myself.
• 19:31
  I
• 19:31
  found
• 19:32
  myself
• 19:32
  super
• 19:32
  guilty
• 19:33
  of
• 19:33
  that.
• 19:33
  When
• 19:33
  I
• 19:33
  started
• 19:34
  going
• 19:34
  to
• 19:34
  the.
• 19:35
  This
• 19:35
  is
• 19:36
  funny.
• 19:37
  It's
• 19:38
  therapy.
• 19:39
  When
• 19:39
  I
• 19:39
  started
• 19:39
  going
• 19:39
  to
• 19:39
  the
• 19:39
  CCM
• 19:40
  type
• 19:40
  churches,
• 19:41
  the
• 19:41
  music
• 19:42
  was
• 19:42
  easy
• 19:43
  at
• 19:43
  a
• 19:43
  level
• 19:43
  that
• 19:43
  I
• 19:43
  just
• 19:44
  wasn't
• 19:44
  really
• 19:45
  even
• 19:45
  listening
• 19:45
  to
• 19:45
  it.
• 19:46
  That's
• 19:46
  what
• 19:46
  I
• 19:46
  was
• 19:46
  wondering
• 19:46
  about,
• 19:47
  if.
• 19:47
  I'm
• 19:47
  being
• 19:47
  honest,
• 19:48
  especially
• 19:48
  when
• 19:48
  there
• 19:48
  was
• 19:49
  like
• 19:49
  a
• 19:49
  chord
• 19:49
  chart
• 19:50
  on
• 19:50
  stage
• 19:50
  for
• 19:50
  me.
• 19:51
  Yeah,
• 19:52
  give
• 19:52
  me
• 19:52
  the
• 19:52
  roots.
• 19:52
  I
• 19:53
  can
• 19:53
  hear
• 19:53
  the
• 19:53
  rest
• 19:53
  from
• 19:53
  there.
• 19:54
  So,
• 19:54
  yeah,
• 19:55
  I
• 19:55
  definitely
• 19:55
  went
• 19:55
  through
• 19:55
  a
• 19:56
  phase
• 19:56
  like
• 19:56
  that,
• 19:56
  and
• 19:57
  I
• 19:57
  know
• 19:57
  a
• 19:57
  lot
• 19:57
  of
• 19:57
  musicians
• 19:58
  have,
• 19:58
  so
• 19:58
  I'm
• 19:58
  still
• 19:58
  on
• 19:59
  your
• 19:59
  side.
• 19:59
  I'm
• 19:59
  not
• 19:59
  trying
• 20:00
  to
• 20:00
  call
• 20:00
  you
• 20:00
  out
• 20:01
  in
• 20:01
  a
• 20:01
  negative
• 20:02
  way,
• 20:02
  I'm
• 20:02
  just
• 20:02
  trying
• 20:02
  to
• 20:02
  call
• 20:03
  you
• 20:03
  out
• 20:03
  as
• 20:03
  a
• 20:03
  friend.
• 20:04
  Just
• 20:04
  do
• 20:04
  better.
• 20:05
  It's
• 20:05
  just
• 20:05
  part
• 20:05
  of
• 20:05
  the
• 20:05
  truth
• 20:06
  of
• 20:06
  CCM.
• 20:07
  I'm
• 20:07
  sorry,
• 20:08
  there's.
• 20:08
  Now
• 20:08
  there's
• 20:08
  a
• 20:09
  really
• 20:09
  big
• 20:09
  delay.
• 20:10
  So
• 20:10
  I
• 20:11
  always
• 20:11
  think
• 20:11
  you're
• 20:12
  done
• 20:12
  and
• 20:12
  then
• 20:12
  you
• 20:13
  move
• 20:13
  on
• 20:13
  to
• 20:13
  the
• 20:13
  next
• 20:14
  sentence.
• 20:14
  I'm
• 20:15
  never
• 20:15
  done.
• 20:16
  Do
• 20:17
  you
• 20:17
  want
• 20:17
  to
• 20:17
  say
• 20:17
  something
• 20:17
  else?
• 20:18
  No,
• 20:19
  I'm
• 20:19
  done.
• 20:20
  I'm
• 20:21
  never
• 20:21
  done.
• 20:22
  Do
• 20:22
  you
• 20:22
  want
• 20:22
  to
• 20:22
  say
• 20:22
  something
• 20:23
  else?
• 20:23
  No,
• 20:23
  I'm
• 20:23
  done.
• 20:25
  What
• 20:26
  I
• 20:26
  was
• 20:26
  going
• 20:26
  to
• 20:26
  say
• 20:26
  is
• 20:27
  that
• 20:27
  CCM,
• 20:28
  and
• 20:28
  this
• 20:28
  is
• 20:29
  in
• 20:29
  no
• 20:29
  way,
• 20:31
  I
• 20:31
  don't
• 20:31
  mean
• 20:31
  this
• 20:32
  in
• 20:32
  a
• 20:32
  negative
• 20:32
  way,
• 20:33
  but
• 20:33
  CCM
• 20:34
  has.
• 20:34
  You
• 20:34
  can.
• 20:35
  Part
• 20:36
  of
• 20:36
  the
• 20:36
  appeal
• 20:37
  is
• 20:38
  that
• 20:38
  you
• 20:38
  come
• 20:38
  to
• 20:39
  church,
• 20:40
  or
• 20:41
  in
• 20:41
  the
• 20:41
  sense
• 20:41
  of
• 20:42
  live
• 20:42
  music,
• 20:42
  is
• 20:42
  that
• 20:42
  you
• 20:42
  come
• 20:43
  to
• 20:43
  church
• 20:43
  and
• 20:43
  there's
• 20:43
  new
• 20:44
  songs
• 20:44
  every
• 20:45
  week
• 20:46
  and
• 20:47
  just
• 20:47
  everything
• 20:47
  is
• 20:47
  new
• 20:47
  and
• 20:48
  fresh
• 20:48
  and
• 20:49
  shiny
• 20:49
  every
• 20:50
  week.
• 20:50
  And
• 20:51
  with
• 20:52
  that
• 20:52
  in
• 20:52
  mind,
• 20:53
  it's
• 20:53
  the
• 20:54
  music
• 20:54
  sort
• 20:54
  of
• 20:54
  morphed
• 20:55
  into
• 20:55
  this.
• 20:57
  I
• 20:57
  guess
• 20:57
  there's
• 20:58
  templates
• 20:58
  involved,
• 20:59
  but
• 20:59
  it's
• 20:59
  just
• 20:59
  the
• 21:00
  songs
• 21:00
  are
• 21:00
  written
• 21:00
  in
• 21:01
  the
• 21:01
  kind
• 21:01
  of
• 21:01
  way
• 21:02
  where
• 21:03
  skilled
• 21:03
  musicians
• 21:04
  can
• 21:04
  just
• 21:04
  grab
• 21:04
  them
• 21:05
  and
• 21:05
  switch
• 21:05
  them
• 21:06
  quickly
• 21:07
  and
• 21:07
  learn
• 21:08
  a
• 21:08
  new
• 21:08
  one.
• 21:08
  And
• 21:09
  it's
• 21:09
  very
• 21:09
  rewarding
• 21:10
  for
• 21:10
  the
• 21:11
  audience
• 21:11
  goers
• 21:11
  because
• 21:12
  there's
• 21:12
  a
• 21:12
  new,
• 21:13
  amazing,
• 21:13
  exciting,
• 21:14
  big
• 21:14
  production
• 21:14
  every
• 21:15
  week.
• 21:16
  Fair
• 21:16
  enough.
• 21:16
  Part
• 21:16
  of
• 21:17
  it.
• 21:17
  Right.
• 21:17
  Like,
• 21:17
  if
• 21:17
  it
• 21:17
  was
• 21:18
  a
• 21:18
  different
• 21:18
  type
• 21:18
  of
• 21:18
  music,
• 21:18
  do
• 21:19
  you
• 21:19
  think
• 21:19
  you'd
• 21:19
  be
• 21:19
  able
• 21:19
  to
• 21:20
  pull
• 21:20
  off
• 21:20
  the
• 21:20
  type
• 21:20
  of
• 21:21
  shows
• 21:21
  that
• 21:22
  you
• 21:22
  see
• 21:23
  CCM
• 21:23
  churches
• 21:24
  put
• 21:24
  on?
• 21:26
  Not
• 21:26
  as
• 21:26
  easily.
• 21:27
  I
• 21:27
  mean,
• 21:27
  it
• 21:27
  depends
• 21:27
  on
• 21:27
  the
• 21:27
  type
• 21:28
  of
• 21:28
  music.
• 21:28
  But
• 21:28
  definitely
• 21:29
  that
• 21:29
  formats,
• 21:29
  like,
• 21:30
  super
• 21:30
  easy.
• 21:31
  Yeah,
• 21:31
  yeah.
• 21:33
  All
• 21:34
  right,
• 21:34
  let's
• 21:34
  move
• 21:34
  on.
• 21:35
  This
• 21:35
  is
• 21:35
  a
• 21:35
  big
• 21:35
  one
• 21:35
  for
• 21:36
  me.
• 21:36
  This
• 21:37
  is
• 21:37
  good.
• 21:37
  So
• 21:37
  far
• 21:37
  so
• 21:37
  good.
• 21:37
  Let's
• 21:38
  keep
• 21:38
  this
• 21:38
  momentum
• 21:38
  going.
• 21:39
  Number
• 21:39
  four.
• 21:40
  Tell
• 21:40
  them
• 21:41
  where
• 21:41
  it
• 21:41
  hurts,
• 21:41
  son.
• 21:41
  Tell
• 21:41
  them
• 21:42
  where
• 21:42
  it
• 21:42
  hurt.
• 21:42
  This
• 21:42
  is
• 21:42
  where
• 21:42
  it
• 21:43
  hurts.
• 21:43
  This
• 21:44
  is
• 21:44
  where
• 21:44
  it
• 21:44
  gets
• 21:44
  me
• 21:44
  at
• 21:44
  the
• 21:45
  heart.
• 21:46
  Oh,
• 21:46
  man.
• 21:47
  Double
• 21:48
  booking.
• 21:50
  That's
• 21:51
  kind
• 21:51
  of
• 21:51
  like
• 21:51
  number
• 21:52
  two.
• 21:53
  That
• 21:54
  should
• 21:54
  be.
• 21:55
  No,
• 21:55
  no.
• 21:55
  Cause
• 21:56
  number
• 21:56
  two
• 21:56
  was
• 21:57
  like,
• 21:57
  just
• 21:57
  literally.
• 21:58
  Maybe
• 21:58
  something
• 21:59
  came
• 21:59
  up.
• 22:00
  Maybe
• 22:00
  you
• 22:00
  had,
• 22:01
  I
• 22:01
  don't
• 22:01
  know,
• 22:01
  an
• 22:01
  emergency,
• 22:02
  but
• 22:02
  you
• 22:02
  couldn't
• 22:02
  take
• 22:03
  the
• 22:03
  time
• 22:03
  just
• 22:03
  to
• 22:03
  say,
• 22:04
  but
• 22:04
  try
• 22:05
  this
• 22:05
  guy,
• 22:05
  or.
• 22:06
  But
• 22:06
  this,
• 22:06
  or,
• 22:07
  you
• 22:07
  know,
• 22:08
  whatever.
• 22:08
  But
• 22:09
  I
• 22:09
  have
• 22:09
  a
• 22:09
  different
• 22:09
  set
• 22:09
  of
• 22:10
  strings.
• 22:10
  Just
• 22:10
  like,
• 22:11
  here's
• 22:11
  your.
• 22:11
  Here's
• 22:11
  the
• 22:11
  problem.
• 22:12
  But
• 22:13
  this
• 22:13
  one
• 22:13
  is
• 22:13
  straight
• 22:14
  up
• 22:14
  double
• 22:14
  booking.
• 22:15
  Like,
• 22:15
  I
• 22:15
  have
• 22:16
  a
• 22:16
  calendar,
• 22:16
  but
• 22:16
  I
• 22:16
  somehow
• 22:17
  don't
• 22:17
  use
• 22:17
  it
• 22:18
  properly.
• 22:18
  So
• 22:19
  does
• 22:19
  that
• 22:19
  book
• 22:19
  myself
• 22:20
  for
• 22:20
  multiple
• 22:20
  things?
• 22:23
  Before
• 22:24
  I
• 22:24
  came
• 22:24
  on
• 22:24
  tonight,
• 22:25
  I
• 22:25
  was
• 22:26
  mid
• 22:26
  conversation
• 22:27
  about
• 22:27
  a
• 22:28
  double
• 22:28
  booking
• 22:28
  that
• 22:28
  I'm
• 22:28
  about
• 22:29
  to
• 22:29
  find
• 22:29
  out
• 22:29
  about.
• 22:29
  Apparently
• 22:30
  it
• 22:31
  happens
• 22:31
  a
• 22:31
  lot.
• 22:31
  Oh,
• 22:31
  my
• 22:32
  gosh.
• 22:32
  It
• 22:32
  happens.
• 22:33
  Really?
• 22:33
  Yeah,
• 22:33
  yeah,
• 22:33
  yeah.
• 22:34
  So,
• 22:35
  I
• 22:35
  mean,
• 22:36
  not
• 22:37
  everyone
• 22:37
  does
• 22:37
  it,
• 22:37
  but
• 22:38
  the
• 22:38
  thing
• 22:38
  is,
• 22:39
  it's.
• 22:39
  I
• 22:39
  guess
• 22:40
  it's
• 22:40
  just
• 22:40
  patterns,
• 22:40
  right?
• 22:41
  Because
• 22:41
  the
• 22:41
  people
• 22:41
  who
• 22:42
  do
• 22:42
  it,
• 22:42
  do.
• 22:42
  It,
• 22:43
  do
• 22:44
  it
• 22:44
  often.
• 22:44
  So
• 22:44
  it's
• 22:45
  always
• 22:45
  a
• 22:45
  repeat
• 22:45
  offender.
• 22:46
  You're
• 22:46
  not
• 22:46
  surprised.
• 22:47
  I
• 22:47
  guess
• 22:47
  it's
• 22:47
  just
• 22:48
  behaviors.
• 22:49
  Like,
• 22:49
  if
• 22:49
  you
• 22:50
  were
• 22:50
  to
• 22:50
  do
• 22:50
  that,
• 22:50
  I
• 22:50
  would
• 22:51
  be
• 22:51
  surprised.
• 22:52
  But
• 22:52
  there's
• 22:53
  some
• 22:53
  people
• 22:53
  who
• 22:53
  do
• 22:54
  it
• 22:54
  like?
• 22:55
  Well,
• 22:55
  I
• 22:55
  guess.
• 22:55
  I
• 22:56
  guess
• 22:56
  I
• 22:56
  should
• 22:56
  have
• 22:57
  known
• 22:57
  better.
• 22:57
  Do
• 22:57
  you
• 22:57
  have
• 22:57
  your
• 22:57
  hand
• 22:58
  up?
• 22:58
  Yeah.
• 22:59
  Wow,
• 22:59
  that's
• 23:00
  a
• 23:00
  huge
• 23:00
  delay.
• 23:01
  I
• 23:01
  had
• 23:01
  my
• 23:01
  hand
• 23:02
  up,
• 23:02
  like,
• 23:02
  last
• 23:02
  week.
• 23:04
  You
• 23:04
  know
• 23:05
  what?
• 23:05
  I
• 23:05
  think
• 23:05
  it
• 23:05
  just
• 23:05
  clicked
• 23:06
  in.
• 23:06
  I
• 23:06
  was
• 23:06
  like,
• 23:06
  are
• 23:06
  we
• 23:07
  at
• 23:07
  school?
• 23:08
  I
• 23:09
  saw
• 23:09
  it
• 23:09
  a
• 23:09
  while
• 23:09
  ago.
• 23:09
  Yes,
• 23:10
  we
• 23:10
  are
• 23:10
  at
• 23:10
  school.
• 23:10
  And
• 23:10
  I
• 23:11
  hope
• 23:11
  you're
• 23:11
  taking
• 23:11
  notes
• 23:11
  and
• 23:12
  listening.
• 23:13
  That
• 23:14
  was
• 23:14
  hilarious.
• 23:15
  In
• 23:15
  Israel
• 23:16
  and
• 23:16
  some
• 23:17
  other
• 23:17
  countries.
• 23:17
  But
• 23:18
  when
• 23:18
  I
• 23:18
  was
• 23:18
  a
• 23:18
  kid,
• 23:19
  we
• 23:19
  wouldn't
• 23:19
  raise
• 23:19
  our
• 23:20
  hand
• 23:20
  up.
• 23:20
  We
• 23:20
  would
• 23:20
  raise
• 23:20
  a
• 23:20
  finger.
• 23:21
  And
• 23:22
  when
• 23:22
  I
• 23:22
  moved
• 23:22
  here
• 23:22
  and
• 23:22
  all
• 23:23
  the
• 23:23
  kids
• 23:23
  had
• 23:23
  a
• 23:23
  full
• 23:23
  hand
• 23:23
  up,
• 23:24
  I
• 23:24
  was
• 23:24
  like,
• 23:24
  that
• 23:24
  makes
• 23:25
  so
• 23:25
  much
• 23:25
  more
• 23:25
  sense.
• 23:26
  What
• 23:26
  was
• 23:26
  the
• 23:26
  point
• 23:27
  of
• 23:27
  the
• 23:27
  finger?
• 23:28
  What
• 23:28
  a.
• 23:29
  Yeah,
• 23:29
  it's
• 23:29
  better.
• 23:29
  I
• 23:30
  like
• 23:30
  it.
• 23:31
  It's
• 23:31
  humble.
• 23:32
  What?
• 23:32
  Good
• 23:33
  point.
• 23:33
  It
• 23:33
  is
• 23:33
  kind
• 23:34
  of
• 23:34
  humble.
• 23:34
  Um,
• 23:36
  what.
• 23:39
  What
• 23:39
  I
• 23:39
  wanted
• 23:40
  to
• 23:40
  ask
• 23:40
  is
• 23:41
  if
• 23:41
  these
• 23:41
  are
• 23:41
  repeat
• 23:42
  offenders.
• 23:43
  Why?
• 23:45
  How
• 23:45
  do
• 23:45
  you
• 23:45
  even
• 23:45
  get
• 23:46
  to
• 23:46
  know
• 23:46
  that
• 23:46
  they're
• 23:46
  repeat
• 23:47
  offenders?
• 23:47
  Why
• 23:47
  don't
• 23:47
  you
• 23:48
  stop
• 23:48
  calling
• 23:48
  them?
• 23:50
  There's
• 23:50
  a
• 23:50
  really
• 23:51
  honest
• 23:51
  answer.
• 23:53
  Sometimes
• 23:53
  they're
• 23:54
  just
• 23:55
  really
• 23:55
  good.
• 23:58
  Yeah,
• 23:58
  there's
• 23:58
  just.
• 23:59
  Yeah.
• 23:59
  Unfortunate
• 24:00
  truth.
• 24:01
  Some
• 24:01
  people
• 24:01
  are
• 24:01
  hard
• 24:01
  to
• 24:02
  replace
• 24:03
  and
• 24:04
  you're
• 24:04
  willing
• 24:05
  to
• 24:05
  take
• 24:05
  certain.
• 24:06
  It's
• 24:06
  like
• 24:06
  you're
• 24:06
  in
• 24:06
  a
• 24:06
  weird,
• 24:07
  abusive
• 24:07
  relationship.
• 24:08
  You're
• 24:08
  willing
• 24:08
  to
• 24:08
  take
• 24:09
  certain
• 24:09
  things
• 24:09
  that
• 24:09
  you
• 24:10
  shouldn't
• 24:10
  because
• 24:11
  there's
• 24:12
  other
• 24:12
  things
• 24:12
  that
• 24:12
  are
• 24:12
  really
• 24:13
  good
• 24:13
  that
• 24:13
  you
• 24:13
  might
• 24:13
  not
• 24:14
  get
• 24:14
  otherwise.
• 24:15
  Right.
• 24:16
  So
• 24:16
  you're
• 24:16
  telling
• 24:17
  me
• 24:17
  the
• 24:17
  talent
• 24:18
  people
• 24:19
  can
• 24:19
  get
• 24:19
  away
• 24:20
  with
• 24:20
  things
• 24:20
  that
• 24:20
  other
• 24:20
  people
• 24:21
  can
• 24:21
  get
• 24:21
  away
• 24:21
  with?
• 24:22
  Stop
• 24:22
  talking
• 24:23
  about
• 24:23
  this.
• 24:23
  I
• 24:23
  feel
• 24:23
  like
• 24:23
  the
• 24:23
  more
• 24:24
  we
• 24:24
  say
• 24:24
  it,
• 24:24
  I'm
• 24:24
  gonna
• 24:24
  slip
• 24:25
  someone's
• 24:25
  name.
• 24:29
  I
• 24:29
  really
• 24:29
  like
• 24:30
  to
• 24:30
  move
• 24:30
  on.
• 24:31
  Getting
• 24:31
  really
• 24:31
  uncomfortable
• 24:32
  here.
• 24:32
  No,
• 24:32
  because
• 24:33
  you
• 24:33
  know
• 24:33
  who
• 24:33
  you
• 24:33
  are.
• 24:34
  If
• 24:34
  you
• 24:34
  listen,
• 24:34
  then
• 24:35
  you
• 24:35
  know,
• 24:35
  and
• 24:35
  you're
• 24:35
  gonna
• 24:35
  hit
• 24:35
  me
• 24:36
  up
• 24:36
  and
• 24:36
  be
• 24:36
  like,
• 24:36
  I'm
• 24:37
  really
• 24:37
  gonna
• 24:37
  try
• 24:37
  and
• 24:37
  stop
• 24:38
  double
• 24:38
  booking.
• 24:38
  I'm
• 24:39
  gonna
• 24:39
  be
• 24:39
  like,
• 24:40
  you're
• 24:40
  not.
• 24:41
  But
• 24:41
  yeah,
• 24:41
  it
• 24:42
  happens.
• 24:42
  And
• 24:42
  that's
• 24:43
  the
• 24:43
  truth
• 24:43
  of
• 24:43
  why
• 24:44
  these
• 24:44
  people
• 24:44
  are
• 24:44
  allowed
• 24:44
  to
• 24:44
  get
• 24:45
  away
• 24:45
  with
• 24:45
  it,
• 24:45
  because
• 24:46
  the
• 24:46
  talent.
• 24:47
  And
• 24:47
  it
• 24:48
  sucks.
• 24:48
  I
• 24:48
  guess
• 24:49
  when
• 24:49
  you're
• 24:49
  a
• 24:49
  certain
• 24:49
  level
• 24:50
  of
• 24:50
  good,
• 24:50
  at
• 24:50
  least
• 24:50
  in
• 24:51
  your,
• 24:51
  like,
• 24:52
  your
• 24:52
  community,
• 24:53
  it's.
• 24:53
  It's,
• 24:53
  uh.
• 24:54
  You
• 24:55
  can't
• 24:55
  even
• 24:55
  really
• 24:55
  find
• 24:56
  yourself
• 24:56
  a
• 24:57
  suitable
• 24:58
  sub.
• 24:59
  That
• 25:00
  must
• 25:00
  do
• 25:00
  something
• 25:00
  to
• 25:01
  your.
• 25:01
  Just
• 25:01
  your
• 25:01
  overall,
• 25:02
  like,
• 25:03
  maybe
• 25:03
  not
• 25:03
  ego,
• 25:04
  but
• 25:04
  yeah,
• 25:04
  I
• 25:04
  guess
• 25:05
  it
• 25:05
  is
• 25:05
  your
• 25:05
  ego,
• 25:05
  regardless
• 25:06
  of
• 25:06
  it,
• 25:06
  if
• 25:06
  it's
• 25:07
  arrogance
• 25:07
  or
• 25:07
  not.
• 25:07
  Right?
• 25:08
  Like,
• 25:08
  if
• 25:08
  you
• 25:09
  trap
• 25:09
  can.
• 25:10
  Yeah.
• 25:10
  Almost
• 25:11
  any
• 25:11
  other
• 25:11
  people
• 25:12
  are
• 25:12
  trapped.
• 25:12
  Yeah.
• 25:13
  Yeah.
• 25:14
  And
• 25:14
  is
• 25:15
  it
• 25:15
  always
• 25:15
  the
• 25:15
  highest
• 25:16
  bidder
• 25:16
  wins
• 25:16
  in
• 25:16
  those
• 25:17
  situations?
• 25:17
  So,
• 25:18
  like,
• 25:19
  if
• 25:19
  they
• 25:19
  would,
• 25:20
  they're
• 25:20
  obviously
• 25:20
  gonna
• 25:20
  follow
• 25:21
  the
• 25:21
  money.
• 25:21
  It's
• 25:21
  not
• 25:22
  really
• 25:22
  just
• 25:22
  like
• 25:22
  the
• 25:22
  fact
• 25:23
  that
• 25:23
  you
• 25:23
  booked
• 25:23
  them
• 25:23
  and
• 25:24
  paid
• 25:24
  them
• 25:24
  to
• 25:24
  deposit
• 25:25
  or
• 25:26
  whatever.
• 25:26
  Do
• 25:26
  you
• 25:26
  know,
• 25:27
  that's.
• 25:27
  That's
• 25:27
  the
• 25:28
  thing.
• 25:30
  I
• 25:30
  mean,
• 25:30
  it
• 25:30
  would
• 25:30
  make
• 25:31
  sense
• 25:31
  if
• 25:31
  you're
• 25:31
  leaving
• 25:32
  for
• 25:32
  more
• 25:32
  money,
• 25:32
  right?
• 25:33
  Sometimes
• 25:34
  opportunity
• 25:34
  or.
• 25:35
  I
• 25:35
  don't
• 25:35
  know.
• 25:36
  I
• 25:36
  don't
• 25:36
  know.
• 25:37
  I'm
• 25:37
  not
• 25:37
  always
• 25:37
  saying
• 25:37
  it
• 25:38
  goes
• 25:38
  against
• 25:39
  me,
• 25:39
  so
• 25:39
  sometimes
• 25:40
  it
• 25:40
  might
• 25:40
  work,
• 25:41
  but
• 25:42
  overall,
• 25:42
  I
• 25:43
  just.
• 25:43
  I
• 25:43
  just
• 25:44
  think
• 25:44
  that
• 25:44
  there's
• 25:44
  a
• 25:44
  better
• 25:45
  way.
• 25:45
  And
• 25:45
  there's
• 25:45
  a.
• 25:45
  There's
• 25:46
  probably
• 25:46
  some
• 25:46
  systems
• 25:47
  that
• 25:47
  we
• 25:47
  have
• 25:47
  in
• 25:47
  place
• 25:48
  and
• 25:48
  technology
• 25:48
  to
• 25:49
  avoid
• 25:50
  that
• 25:51
  at
• 25:51
  this
• 25:51
  point.
• 25:52
  I
• 25:52
  guess,
• 25:52
  easy
• 25:52
  to
• 25:53
  make
• 25:53
  mistake
• 25:53
  of
• 25:53
  booking
• 25:54
  yourself
• 25:54
  to
• 25:54
  be
• 25:54
  in
• 25:54
  two
• 25:55
  places
• 25:55
  at
• 25:55
  once.
• 25:56
  Like,
• 25:56
  would
• 25:56
  you
• 25:56
  book
• 25:56
  yourself
• 25:57
  or
• 25:57
  a
• 25:57
  doctor's
• 25:58
  appointment
• 25:58
  and
• 25:58
  a
• 25:59
  dentist
• 25:59
  appointment
• 25:59
  at
• 25:59
  the
• 25:59
  same
• 26:00
  time?
• 26:00
  Something
• 26:01
  would
• 26:01
  tell
• 26:01
  you
• 26:01
  that,
• 26:02
  you
• 26:02
  know,
• 26:02
  it
• 26:02
  doesn't
• 26:03
  work.
• 26:03
  I
• 26:04
  don't
• 26:04
  know.
• 26:05
  But
• 26:05
  yeah.
• 26:06
  Doriki
• 26:06
  and
• 26:07
  I
• 26:07
  had
• 26:08
  very
• 26:08
  similar
• 26:09
  experiences
• 26:09
  multiple
• 26:10
  times
• 26:10
  when
• 26:10
  we
• 26:11
  had
• 26:11
  the
• 26:11
  studio,
• 26:12
  which
• 26:12
  I
• 26:12
  don't
• 26:12
  actually
• 26:12
  think
• 26:12
  we
• 26:13
  talked
• 26:13
  about
• 26:13
  on
• 26:14
  the
• 26:14
  air
• 26:14
  yet.
• 26:16
  No.
• 26:16
  But
• 26:16
  yeah,
• 26:17
  the
• 26:17
  news
• 26:17
  is
• 26:17
  out.
• 26:17
  Maybe
• 26:18
  we'll
• 26:18
  talk
• 26:18
  about
• 26:18
  it
• 26:18
  later.
• 26:19
  But
• 26:19
  we
• 26:19
  would
• 26:20
  have
• 26:20
  people
• 26:21
  that,
• 26:21
  for
• 26:21
  whatever
• 26:22
  reason,
• 26:22
  either
• 26:22
  they
• 26:23
  were
• 26:23
  a
• 26:23
  one
• 26:23
  of
• 26:23
  a
• 26:23
  kind
• 26:23
  talent,
• 26:24
  it
• 26:24
  happened
• 26:24
  more
• 26:24
  than
• 26:25
  once,
• 26:25
  or
• 26:25
  they
• 26:25
  were
• 26:26
  wealthy
• 26:27
  and
• 26:27
  it
• 26:27
  was
• 26:27
  their
• 26:27
  production.
• 26:28
  But
• 26:28
  everybody,
• 26:29
  there'd
• 26:30
  be
• 26:30
  weeks
• 26:30
  of
• 26:30
  coordination,
• 26:31
  white
• 26:31
  glove
• 26:32
  decision
• 26:33
  making
• 26:33
  about
• 26:33
  how
• 26:34
  can
• 26:34
  we
• 26:34
  make
• 26:34
  this
• 26:34
  experience
• 26:36
  as
• 26:37
  incredible
• 26:37
  and
• 26:38
  as
• 26:38
  easy
• 26:38
  and
• 26:38
  soft
• 26:39
  as
• 26:39
  possible
• 26:39
  for
• 26:39
  this
• 26:40
  talented.
• 26:41
  Right,
• 26:41
  Dorika,
• 26:41
  you
• 26:41
  can
• 26:41
  think
• 26:42
  of
• 26:42
  a
• 26:42
  couple
• 26:42
  of
• 26:42
  times
• 26:42
  like
• 26:42
  that,
• 26:43
  right?
• 26:43
  And
• 26:43
  we
• 26:43
  all
• 26:44
  show
• 26:44
  up
• 26:44
  and
• 26:44
  like,
• 26:45
  don't
• 26:45
  look
• 26:45
  them
• 26:45
  in
• 26:45
  the
• 26:45
  eye
• 26:46
  or
• 26:46
  whatever.
• 26:46
  Do
• 26:46
  look
• 26:47
  them
• 26:47
  and
• 26:47
  call
• 26:47
  them
• 26:48
  the
• 26:48
  doctor
• 26:48
  or
• 26:48
  call
• 26:49
  them
• 26:49
  the
• 26:49
  whatever.
• 26:50
  And
• 26:50
  they
• 26:50
  are.
• 26:50
  They
• 26:51
  don't
• 26:51
  eat
• 26:51
  this,
• 26:52
  they
• 26:52
  don't
• 26:52
  need
• 26:52
  gluten,
• 26:53
  they
• 26:53
  don't
• 26:53
  have
• 26:53
  celiac,
• 26:54
  they
• 26:54
  just
• 26:54
  don't
• 26:54
  eat
• 26:54
  gluten,
• 26:55
  don't
• 26:55
  talk
• 26:56
  about
• 26:56
  that,
• 26:56
  blah,
• 26:56
  blah,
• 26:57
  blah,
• 26:57
  blah.
• 26:58
  And
• 26:59
  everybody
• 26:59
  be
• 26:59
  ready
• 27:00
  at
• 27:00
  this
• 27:00
  time.
• 27:01
  Exactly.
• 27:01
  And
• 27:01
  then
• 27:01
  we're
• 27:02
  all
• 27:02
  ready
• 27:02
  and
• 27:02
  we're
• 27:03
  all
• 27:03
  waiting
• 27:03
  and
• 27:03
  we
• 27:03
  all
• 27:04
  literally
• 27:04
  have
• 27:04
  white
• 27:04
  gloves
• 27:05
  on.
• 27:05
  And
• 27:05
  then
• 27:05
  the
• 27:05
  person
• 27:06
  is
• 27:06
  4
• 27:06
  hours
• 27:06
  late.
• 27:08
  Yeah.
• 27:09
  And
• 27:10
  that
• 27:10
  happened
• 27:10
  multiple
• 27:10
  times,
• 27:11
  often.
• 27:12
  Yeah.
• 27:12
  It's
• 27:12
  just
• 27:12
  what
• 27:13
  it's
• 27:13
  like
• 27:13
  when
• 27:13
  you
• 27:14
  have
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  power
• 27:14
  over
• 27:14
  people.
• 27:15
  Not
• 27:16
  everybody
• 27:16
  is
• 27:16
  willing
• 27:16
  to
• 27:17
  still
• 27:17
  be
• 27:17
  a
• 27:17
  decent
• 27:18
  person.
• 27:19
  It's
• 27:19
  a
• 27:19
  good
• 27:20
  point.
• 27:20
  I've
• 27:21
  seen
• 27:21
  that
• 27:21
  happen
• 27:21
  a
• 27:21
  lot.
• 27:22
  Yeah.
• 27:23
  Gross.
• 27:23
  I
• 27:23
  guess.
• 27:24
  Yeah,
• 27:25
  it's
• 27:26
  sure
• 27:27
  true.
• 27:28
  They're
• 27:28
  also
• 27:28
  paying
• 27:28
  for
• 27:29
  their
• 27:29
  time.
• 27:29
  But
• 27:32
  what
• 27:32
  was
• 27:32
  even
• 27:33
  the
• 27:33
  point
• 27:34
  of
• 27:34
  making
• 27:34
  us
• 27:35
  prep
• 27:35
  then,
• 27:36
  right?
• 27:38
  To
• 27:38
  what
• 27:38
  end?
• 27:40
  Ego,
• 27:40
  like
• 27:41
  you
• 27:41
  said,
• 27:41
  maybe.
• 27:42
  So
• 27:43
  let's
• 27:43
  repeat
• 27:43
  what
• 27:43
  was
• 27:44
  number
• 27:44
  four
• 27:44
  again,
• 27:45
  just
• 27:45
  to
• 27:45
  refresh
• 27:46
  my
• 27:46
  memory.
• 27:46
  Trying
• 27:47
  to
• 27:47
  make
• 27:47
  my
• 27:47
  heart
• 27:47
  stop.
• 27:48
  Double
• 27:49
  booking,
• 27:50
  double
• 27:50
  book
• 27:51
  yourself
• 27:51
  to
• 27:51
  be
• 27:51
  two
• 27:51
  or
• 27:52
  three
• 27:52
  places
• 27:52
  at
• 27:53
  once
• 27:53
  at
• 27:53
  the
• 27:53
  same
• 27:53
  time.
• 27:54
  On
• 27:54
  the
• 27:54
  same
• 27:54
  day.
• 27:55
  Double
• 27:55
  booking.
• 27:57
  And
• 27:57
  is
• 27:57
  this
• 27:57
  next
• 27:58
  one
• 27:58
  your
• 27:58
  most
• 27:59
  biggest,
• 28:01
  or
• 28:01
  is
• 28:01
  this
• 28:01
  just
• 28:01
  a
• 28:02
  random
• 28:02
  list?
• 28:02
  Did
• 28:03
  you
• 28:03
  read
• 28:03
  it
• 28:03
  for
• 28:03
  most,
• 28:04
  at
• 28:04
  least?
• 28:05
  Should
• 28:05
  have
• 28:05
  put
• 28:05
  it
• 28:05
  in
• 28:06
  order.
• 28:06
  I
• 28:06
  feel
• 28:06
  like
• 28:07
  double
• 28:07
  bookings.
• 28:08
  The
• 28:08
  worst
• 28:08
  of
• 28:08
  it,
• 28:08
  I
• 28:08
  was
• 28:09
  gonna.
• 28:09
  Say,
• 28:09
  because
• 28:09
  I
• 28:09
  feel
• 28:09
  like
• 28:09
  double
• 28:10
  booking
• 28:10
  is
• 28:10
  your
• 28:10
  time.
• 28:11
  Yeah.
• 28:11
  Yeah,
• 28:11
  that
• 28:11
  one
• 28:12
  hit
• 28:12
  me
• 28:12
  hard.
• 28:12
  Maybe
• 28:12
  I
• 28:12
  didn't
• 28:13
  even
• 28:13
  realize.
• 28:13
  How
• 28:15
  was
• 28:15
  that
• 28:15
  me?
• 28:15
  No,
• 28:16
  I
• 28:16
  think.
• 28:16
  Sorry.
• 28:16
  I
• 28:17
  think
• 28:17
  the
• 28:18
  not
• 28:18
  finding
• 28:19
  a
• 28:19
  replacement
• 28:20
  is
• 28:20
  your
• 28:20
  biggest
• 28:20
  one,
• 28:21
  you
• 28:21
  know?
• 28:21
  Yeah.
• 28:21
  So
• 28:22
  they're
• 28:22
  probably.
• 28:23
  They're
• 28:23
  pretty
• 28:23
  close.
• 28:24
  It's
• 28:24
  a
• 28:24
  pretty
• 28:24
  one
• 28:25
  beam
• 28:25
  right
• 28:25
  now.
• 28:27
  So,
• 28:28
  Dirky,
• 28:28
  I
• 28:28
  gotta
• 28:28
  ask
• 28:29
  you
• 28:29
  something
• 28:29
  real
• 28:29
  quick
• 28:29
  while
• 28:30
  we're
• 28:30
  on
• 28:30
  the
• 28:30
  air.
• 28:31
  Sure.
• 28:32
  You
• 28:32
  busy
• 28:32
  tomorrow
• 28:33
  at
• 28:33
  one?
• 28:36
  Why?
• 28:39
  Oh,
• 28:39
  yeah,
• 28:41
  I'm
• 28:41
  just
• 28:41
  joking,
• 28:42
  obviously.
• 28:42
  No,
• 28:42
  no,
• 28:42
  don't
• 28:42
  tell
• 28:43
  me.
• 28:43
  Pretty
• 28:43
  quickly.
• 28:44
  Oh,
• 28:45
  are
• 28:45
  you
• 28:45
  busy?
• 28:49
  Because
• 28:49
  that's
• 28:49
  what
• 28:49
  people
• 28:50
  do.
• 28:50
  They
• 28:50
  go,
• 28:51
  why?
• 28:51
  And
• 28:52
  then
• 28:52
  you
• 28:52
  go,
• 28:52
  but
• 28:52
  are
• 28:53
  you
• 28:53
  busy
• 28:54
  or
• 28:54
  are
• 28:54
  you
• 28:54
  not
• 28:55
  busy?
• 28:55
  Okay,
• 28:57
  different
• 28:57
  question.
• 28:58
  Are
• 28:58
  you
• 28:58
  available
• 28:58
  tomorrow
• 28:59
  at
• 28:59
  one?
• 29:01
  It
• 29:01
  depends
• 29:01
  for
• 29:01
  what,
• 29:02
  though.
• 29:02
  No,
• 29:02
  I'm
• 29:02
  just
• 29:02
  joking.
• 29:02
  I'm
• 29:03
  messing
• 29:03
  with
• 29:03
  you.
• 29:03
  But
• 29:04
  in
• 29:04
  reality,
• 29:05
  if
• 29:05
  you
• 29:05
  needed
• 29:05
  to
• 29:05
  know
• 29:05
  and
• 29:05
  if
• 29:06
  we
• 29:06
  weren't
• 29:06
  on
• 29:06
  the
• 29:06
  air,
• 29:07
  you
• 29:07
  would
• 29:08
  just
• 29:08
  quickly
• 29:08
  check
• 29:09
  your
• 29:09
  calendar.
• 29:10
  Yeah,
• 29:10
  absolutely.
• 29:12
  Okay,
• 29:12
  so
• 29:12
  that
• 29:12
  was
• 29:13
  just
• 29:13
  a
• 29:13
  quick
• 29:13
  segue,
• 29:13
  because
• 29:14
  I'm
• 29:14
  learning
• 29:14
  how
• 29:14
  to
• 29:14
  do
• 29:15
  this
• 29:15
  podcasting
• 29:16
  a
• 29:16
  little
• 29:16
  bit
• 29:16
  better
• 29:16
  at
• 29:16
  a
• 29:16
  time.
• 29:17
  And
• 29:18
  this
• 29:18
  is
• 29:18
  number
• 29:19
  five.
• 29:19
  And
• 29:19
  I
• 29:19
  thought
• 29:20
  number
• 29:20
  four
• 29:20
  hurt
• 29:20
  me
• 29:21
  until
• 29:21
  I
• 29:21
  got
• 29:21
  to
• 29:21
  this
• 29:21
  one.
• 29:22
  And
• 29:23
  really,
• 29:23
  you
• 29:23
  know
• 29:23
  what?
• 29:24
  This
• 29:24
  is
• 29:24
  annoying
• 29:25
  as
• 29:25
  hell.
• 29:26
  Am
• 29:26
  I
• 29:26
  allowed
• 29:26
  to
• 29:26
  say
• 29:27
  hell?
• 29:27
  I'm
• 29:27
  just.
• 29:28
  Yeah.
• 29:28
  Wow.
• 29:28
  Am
• 29:29
  I
• 29:29
  allowed
• 29:29
  to
• 29:29
  say
• 29:29
  hell?
• 29:29
  I'm
• 29:29
  pretty
• 29:30
  sure
• 29:30
  that's
• 29:30
  as
• 29:30
  far
• 29:30
  as.
• 29:30
  Only
• 29:31
  if
• 29:31
  you
• 29:31
  want
• 29:31
  to
• 29:31
  go
• 29:31
  there.
• 29:32
  Whoa.
• 29:35
  You
• 29:35
  meet
• 29:35
  me
• 29:35
  off
• 29:36
  air,
• 29:37
  Larry
• 29:37
  David.
• 29:39
  So,
• 29:39
  number
• 29:40
  five.
• 29:40
  Number
• 29:40
  five
• 29:42
  is
• 29:42
  if
• 29:43
  I
• 29:43
  say,
• 29:44
  hey,
• 29:44
  man,
• 29:44
  you
• 29:45
  free
• 29:45
  on
• 29:45
  the
• 29:45
  21st
• 29:46
  at
• 29:46
  03:00
• 29:47
  easy
• 29:48
  thing
• 29:48
  to
• 29:48
  say
• 29:48
  was.
• 29:49
  Would
• 29:49
  be
• 29:49
  let.
• 29:49
  And
• 29:50
  you're
• 29:50
  familiar
• 29:50
  with
• 29:50
  this
• 29:51
  one
• 29:51
  even
• 29:51
  as.
• 29:52
  Yeah,
• 29:53
  easy
• 29:53
  thing
• 29:53
  is.
• 29:53
  Let
• 29:53
  me
• 29:54
  check
• 29:54
  my
• 29:54
  schedule
• 29:54
  and
• 29:54
  get
• 29:55
  back
• 29:55
  to
• 29:55
  you.
• 29:55
  Yeah.
• 29:56
  How
• 29:56
  long
• 29:56
  should
• 29:56
  it
• 29:57
  take
• 29:57
  for
• 29:57
  someone
• 29:57
  to
• 29:57
  get
• 29:58
  back
• 29:58
  to
• 29:58
  you?
• 29:59
  Just
• 29:59
  in
• 29:59
  real
• 30:00
  life?
• 30:00
  Let's
• 30:01
  pretend
• 30:01
  that
• 30:01
  this
• 30:01
  isn't
• 30:02
  a
• 30:02
  music
• 30:02
  thing.
• 30:02
  Let's
• 30:03
  pretend
• 30:03
  that
• 30:03
  this
• 30:03
  is
• 30:03
  just
• 30:04
  other
• 30:04
  parts
• 30:05
  of
• 30:05
  real
• 30:05
  life.
• 30:05
  Reality.
• 30:06
  15
• 30:06
  minutes.
• 30:07
  What
• 30:07
  do
• 30:07
  you
• 30:07
  say?
• 30:07
  Depends
• 30:07
  if
• 30:07
  you're
• 30:08
  driving.
• 30:08
  It
• 30:08
  depends
• 30:09
  if,
• 30:09
  like,
• 30:09
  what
• 30:10
  you're
• 30:10
  doing
• 30:10
  at
• 30:10
  the
• 30:10
  moment.
• 30:11
  You're
• 30:11
  asked,
• 30:11
  yeah,
• 30:12
  but
• 30:12
  if
• 30:12
  you
• 30:12
  have
• 30:13
  access
• 30:14
  to
• 30:15
  your
• 30:15
  computer
• 30:16
  or
• 30:16
  phone,
• 30:17
  the
• 30:18
  answer
• 30:18
  should
• 30:18
  be
• 30:19
  fairly
• 30:19
  quickly.
• 30:20
  Fair
• 30:21
  enough.
• 30:21
  Or
• 30:21
  at
• 30:21
  the
• 30:21
  very
• 30:22
  least,
• 30:22
  you
• 30:23
  can
• 30:23
  say,
• 30:24
  sorry
• 30:24
  again,
• 30:24
  I
• 30:25
  thought
• 30:25
  that
• 30:25
  I'm
• 30:25
  talking
• 30:25
  when
• 30:25
  you're
• 30:26
  not,
• 30:26
  but
• 30:26
  we
• 30:26
  were
• 30:27
  talking
• 30:27
  at
• 30:27
  the
• 30:27
  same
• 30:27
  moment.
• 30:28
  Or
• 30:28
  at
• 30:28
  the
• 30:28
  very
• 30:29
  least,
• 30:29
  you
• 30:30
  say,
• 30:32
  let
• 30:32
  me
• 30:32
  see.
• 30:33
  I'll
• 30:33
  get
• 30:33
  back
• 30:33
  to
• 30:33
  you
• 30:34
  in
• 30:34
  5
• 30:35
  hours
• 30:35
  or
• 30:35
  whatever,
• 30:36
  but
• 30:36
  if
• 30:36
  you
• 30:36
  specify.
• 30:37
  And
• 30:38
  you
• 30:38
  might
• 30:38
  forget
• 30:39
  to
• 30:39
  be
• 30:39
  like
• 30:39
  7
• 30:40
  hours.
• 30:41
  Life
• 30:41
  right
• 30:41
  in
• 30:41
  the
• 30:41
  way.
• 30:42
  Yeah.
• 30:43
  Day
• 30:43
  tops.
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  guess
• 30:44
  you're
• 30:44
  right.
• 30:45
  Yeah.
• 30:45
  But
• 30:46
  the
• 30:46
  point
• 30:46
  is,
• 30:46
  you
• 30:46
  get
• 30:47
  back
• 30:47
  to
• 30:47
  people,
• 30:48
  and
• 30:48
  it's
• 30:48
  not
• 30:49
  consistently
• 30:49
  a
• 30:50
  battle.
• 30:50
  And
• 30:51
  here's
• 30:51
  what
• 30:51
  I'm
• 30:51
  gonna
• 30:51
  say
• 30:51
  to
• 30:52
  musicians.
• 30:52
  It's
• 30:52
  not
• 30:52
  all
• 30:53
  you.
• 30:53
  Some
• 30:53
  of
• 30:53
  you
• 30:53
  are
• 30:53
  great.
• 30:54
  You're
• 30:54
  all
• 30:54
  great.
• 30:55
  Some
• 30:55
  of
• 30:56
  you
• 30:56
  are
• 30:56
  great.
• 30:56
  And
• 30:58
  it
• 30:59
  doesn't
• 30:59
  take
• 30:59
  that
• 31:00
  long
• 31:00
  to
• 31:00
  get
• 31:00
  back
• 31:00
  to
• 31:01
  someone.
• 31:01
  Okay.
• 31:02
  It
• 31:02
  should
• 31:02
  be
• 31:02
  a
• 31:03
  pretty
• 31:03
  quick
• 31:03
  thing.
• 31:04
  See,
• 31:05
  you
• 31:05
  made
• 31:05
  Doriki
• 31:06
  sigh.
• 31:06
  He
• 31:06
  was
• 31:06
  just
• 31:06
  like,
• 31:06
  yeah.
• 31:07
  Why?
• 31:07
  Why?
• 31:08
  That
• 31:08
  one
• 31:09
  touched
• 31:09
  home.
• 31:09
  That
• 31:09
  one
• 31:10
  touched
• 31:10
  home.
• 31:12
  It's
• 31:12
  tough.
• 31:13
  It
• 31:13
  is
• 31:13
  a
• 31:14
  tough
• 31:14
  one.
• 31:14
  So
• 31:14
  this
• 31:14
  is
• 31:15
  a
• 31:15
  teaching
• 31:16
  moment.
• 31:16
  Right.
• 31:17
  We
• 31:17
  have
• 31:17
  a
• 31:17
  lot
• 31:17
  of
• 31:17
  fun
• 31:17
  here.
• 31:18
  So
• 31:18
  these
• 31:18
  are
• 31:18
  just
• 31:19
  some
• 31:19
  things
• 31:19
  for
• 31:19
  you
• 31:19
  to
• 31:19
  consider.
• 31:20
  And
• 31:20
  you
• 31:20
  might
• 31:20
  say,
• 31:21
  you
• 31:21
  know
• 31:21
  what?
• 31:21
  I
• 31:21
  do
• 31:21
  that
• 31:22
  no
• 31:22
  one
• 31:22
  cares.
• 31:23
  It
• 31:23
  doesn't
• 31:23
  bother
• 31:23
  anyone.
• 31:24
  It's
• 31:24
  just
• 31:24
  me
• 31:25
  or
• 31:25
  it's
• 31:25
  just
• 31:25
  Anthony,
• 31:26
  or
• 31:26
  it's
• 31:26
  just
• 31:26
  Matt.
• 31:27
  But
• 31:27
  no,
• 31:28
  you
• 31:28
  know,
• 31:28
  it's
• 31:29
  a
• 31:29
  courtesy
• 31:29
  thing.
• 31:30
  So
• 31:31
  these
• 31:31
  are
• 31:31
  just
• 31:32
  a
• 31:32
  few
• 31:32
  tips
• 31:32
  to
• 31:32
  just
• 31:33
  be
• 31:33
  a
• 31:33
  little
• 31:33
  bit
• 31:33
  more
• 31:34
  professional
• 31:34
  as
• 31:35
  a
• 31:35
  musician.
• 31:36
  You're
• 31:36
  a
• 31:36
  really
• 31:37
  creative,
• 31:38
  talented
• 31:39
  guy.
• 31:39
  Or
• 31:39
  gal
• 31:40
  or
• 31:40
  non
• 31:41
  binary.
• 31:42
  Yeah.
• 31:43
  Thank
• 31:43
  you.
• 31:44
  Or
• 31:44
  Larry
• 31:44
  David,
• 31:45
  now
• 31:45
  that
• 31:45
  you
• 31:45
  identify.
• 31:46
  Larry
• 31:46
  David.
• 31:46
  Yeah.
• 31:47
  My
• 31:47
  new
• 31:47
  identity.
• 31:48
  Yeah.
• 31:50
  My
• 31:50
  pronouns
• 31:51
  are
• 31:51
  Oy
• 31:51
  and
• 31:51
  Vay.
• 31:53
  Oy
• 31:53
  and
• 31:53
  vay.
• 31:54
  That's
• 31:54
  funny.
• 31:56
  Yeah.
• 31:57
  So
• 31:58
  if
• 31:58
  this
• 31:58
  didn't
• 31:58
  help
• 31:58
  anybody
• 31:59
  else,
• 31:59
  to
• 31:59
  be
• 31:59
  honest,
• 32:00
  it
• 32:00
  helps
• 32:00
  me.
• 32:01
  I
• 32:01
  feel
• 32:01
  a
• 32:01
  little
• 32:01
  bit
• 32:01
  better
• 32:02
  now.
• 32:02
  I'll
• 32:02
  probably
• 32:02
  sleep
• 32:02
  like
• 32:03
  a
• 32:03
  baby
• 32:03
  tonight.
• 32:03
  This
• 32:04
  might
• 32:04
  be
• 32:04
  the
• 32:04
  reason
• 32:04
  why
• 32:04
  I
• 32:05
  haven't
• 32:05
  been
• 32:05
  sleeping,
• 32:05
  actually.
• 32:06
  So
• 32:08
  you
• 32:08
  have
• 32:08
  to
• 32:08
  get
• 32:08
  this
• 32:08
  off.
• 32:09
  Your
• 32:09
  chest
• 32:10
  on
• 32:10
  behalf
• 32:10
  of
• 32:10
  all
• 32:11
  this
• 32:11
  nonsense.
• 32:12
  Thank
• 32:12
  you.
• 32:13
  Can
• 32:13
  I
• 32:13
  add
• 32:14
  a
• 32:14
  number
• 32:14
  six?
• 32:16
  Absolutely.
• 32:16
  We
• 32:16
  can
• 32:16
  keep
• 32:17
  going.
• 32:21
  Engineers,
• 32:21
  too.
• 32:22
  But
• 32:22
  let's
• 32:22
  talk
• 32:22
  about
• 32:22
  musicians.
• 32:24
  Musicians
• 32:25
  that
• 32:26
  don't
• 32:27
  know
• 32:27
  their
• 32:27
  place.
• 32:29
  Oh,
• 32:29
  you
• 32:29
  have
• 32:29
  to
• 32:29
  break
• 32:30
  that
• 32:30
  down.
• 32:32
  Um,
• 32:33
  when
• 32:34
  a
• 32:34
  rhythm
• 32:34
  guitarist
• 32:35
  think
• 32:36
  they're
• 32:36
  a
• 32:36
  lead
• 32:36
  guitarist
• 32:38
  or
• 32:39
  that
• 32:39
  they
• 32:40
  feel
• 32:40
  like
• 32:40
  they
• 32:40
  could
• 32:41
  showcase
• 32:42
  themselves
• 32:42
  better
• 32:43
  at
• 32:43
  a
• 32:43
  certain
• 32:43
  part.
• 32:44
  When
• 32:44
  it's
• 32:44
  not
• 32:44
  about
• 32:45
  them,
• 32:45
  it's
• 32:45
  about
• 32:46
  the
• 32:46
  vocals
• 32:47
  or
• 32:47
  the
• 32:47
  song.
• 32:48
  It's
• 32:48
  about
• 32:48
  the
• 32:48
  song,
• 32:48
  really.
• 32:49
  Right.
• 32:50
  Or.
• 32:50
  Yeah.
• 32:51
  Drummers,
• 32:51
  and
• 32:51
  I've
• 32:51
  been
• 32:52
  very
• 32:52
  guilty
• 32:52
  of
• 32:52
  this
• 32:52
  myself.
• 32:53
  Drummers
• 32:53
  that
• 32:53
  just
• 32:54
  play
• 32:54
  too
• 32:54
  many
• 32:54
  fills
• 32:55
  that
• 32:55
  don't
• 32:56
  fit
• 32:56
  because
• 32:56
  they
• 32:57
  believe
• 32:57
  that
• 32:57
  it
• 32:57
  showcases
• 32:59
  their
• 33:00
  skills
• 33:00
  better.
• 33:00
  Even
• 33:00
  though
• 33:01
  the
• 33:01
  audience
• 33:01
  doesn't
• 33:02
  understand
• 33:03
  which
• 33:03
  chops
• 33:03
  are.
• 33:04
  They
• 33:04
  just
• 33:04
  know,
• 33:04
  tight
• 33:04
  or
• 33:04
  not.
• 33:05
  You
• 33:05
  know,
• 33:06
  that's
• 33:07
  true.
• 33:07
  It's
• 33:07
  a
• 33:07
  feeling.
• 33:08
  And
• 33:08
  they're
• 33:09
  not
• 33:09
  supposed
• 33:09
  to
• 33:10
  do
• 33:10
  that.
• 33:11
  Or,
• 33:11
  you
• 33:12
  know,
• 33:12
  backup
• 33:13
  vocalists
• 33:13
  that
• 33:14
  have
• 33:15
  too
• 33:15
  many
• 33:15
  trills
• 33:16
  and
• 33:16
  lines
• 33:16
  when
• 33:16
  they
• 33:17
  know
• 33:17
  that
• 33:18
  they.
• 33:18
  The
• 33:18
  best
• 33:19
  way
• 33:19
  to
• 33:19
  serve
• 33:19
  the
• 33:19
  song
• 33:20
  is
• 33:20
  to
• 33:20
  be
• 33:21
  a
• 33:21
  backing,
• 33:22
  a
• 33:23
  backdrop
• 33:24
  to
• 33:24
  the
• 33:24
  lead
• 33:24
  vocals,
• 33:25
  things
• 33:26
  like
• 33:26
  that,
• 33:26
  you
• 33:27
  know?
• 33:27
  Yikes.
• 33:29
  Oof.
• 33:30
  No,
• 33:30
  I
• 33:30
  agree
• 33:31
  with
• 33:31
  you.
• 33:31
  I'm
• 33:32
  gonna
• 33:32
  be
• 33:32
  honest.
• 33:32
  Don't
• 33:33
  overstep
• 33:33
  your
• 33:33
  boundaries.
• 33:34
  It's
• 33:34
  just
• 33:35
  stay
• 33:35
  in
• 33:35
  your
• 33:35
  lane,
• 33:36
  and.
• 33:36
  It'S
• 33:36
  not
• 33:36
  about
• 33:36
  a
• 33:36
  power
• 33:37
  thing.
• 33:37
  It's
• 33:38
  about.
• 33:38
  I
• 33:39
  agree.
• 33:39
  It's
• 33:39
  about
• 33:39
  the
• 33:40
  art.
• 33:40
  It's
• 33:40
  about
• 33:41
  the
• 33:41
  music,
• 33:41
  about
• 33:41
  putting
• 33:42
  on
• 33:42
  a
• 33:42
  show.
• 33:42
  It's
• 33:42
  about
• 33:42
  entertainment,
• 33:43
  harmony.
• 33:44
  Yeah,
• 33:45
  but
• 33:45
  at
• 33:46
  the
• 33:46
  same
• 33:46
  time,
• 33:46
  I
• 33:46
  think
• 33:47
  there's
• 33:48
  something
• 33:49
  to
• 33:49
  be
• 33:49
  said
• 33:50
  about,
• 33:50
  like,
• 33:51
  busting
• 33:51
  balls
• 33:52
  when
• 33:52
  someone
• 33:52
  isn't
• 33:52
  doing
• 33:52
  it,
• 33:53
  you
• 33:53
  know?
• 33:54
  True.
• 33:55
  Being,
• 33:55
  like,
• 33:55
  you're
• 33:56
  doing
• 33:56
  too
• 33:56
  much.
• 33:56
  Stop
• 33:56
  that.
• 33:58
  Don't
• 33:58
  be
• 33:58
  a
• 33:58
  dick.
• 33:59
  That's
• 33:59
  always
• 33:59
  a
• 33:59
  weird
• 34:00
  one,
• 34:00
  too.
• 34:00
  Like,
• 34:01
  do
• 34:01
  you
• 34:01
  guys,
• 34:02
  like,
• 34:02
  is
• 34:02
  that
• 34:02
  the
• 34:02
  musical
• 34:03
  director's
• 34:04
  job
• 34:04
  to
• 34:04
  kind
• 34:04
  of
• 34:04
  rein
• 34:05
  that
• 34:05
  in?
• 34:05
  Or,
• 34:06
  like,
• 34:06
  have
• 34:07
  you
• 34:07
  ever,
• 34:07
  either
• 34:08
  of
• 34:08
  you
• 34:08
  experienced
• 34:08
  the
• 34:09
  time
• 34:09
  where
• 34:09
  you
• 34:09
  could
• 34:09
  have,
• 34:10
  you
• 34:10
  know,
• 34:10
  told
• 34:10
  another
• 34:11
  musician,
• 34:11
  like,
• 34:12
  hey,
• 34:12
  just
• 34:13
  settle
• 34:13
  down
• 34:13
  there,
• 34:13
  superstar?
• 34:15
  Yeah,
• 34:15
  I
• 34:15
  guess
• 34:16
  it
• 34:16
  does
• 34:16
  come
• 34:16
  down
• 34:16
  to
• 34:16
  the
• 34:16
  music
• 34:17
  director,
• 34:17
  if
• 34:17
  there
• 34:17
  is
• 34:18
  one
• 34:18
  in
• 34:18
  place
• 34:18
  for
• 34:18
  the.
• 34:19
  Whatever
• 34:20
  it
• 34:20
  is.
• 34:20
  But,
• 34:20
  yeah,
• 34:21
  yeah,
• 34:21
  it's
• 34:22
  definitely
• 34:22
  something
• 34:23
  that
• 34:23
  has
• 34:23
  to
• 34:23
  come
• 34:23
  up
• 34:23
  time
• 34:24
  to
• 34:24
  time,
• 34:25
  unfortunately.
• 34:25
  What
• 34:25
  about
• 34:26
  in
• 34:26
  a
• 34:26
  band,
• 34:26
  Matt?
• 34:29
  You
• 34:29
  know,
• 34:32
  in
• 34:32
  my
• 34:33
  particular
• 34:34
  band,
• 34:34
  we're
• 34:35
  very
• 34:35
  close
• 34:35
  friends
• 34:36
  that
• 34:36
  have
• 34:36
  known
• 34:36
  each
• 34:36
  other
• 34:36
  for
• 34:36
  a
• 34:36
  very
• 34:37
  long
• 34:37
  time,
• 34:37
  and
• 34:38
  we've
• 34:38
  all
• 34:39
  discovered
• 34:39
  our
• 34:39
  favorite
• 34:40
  bands
• 34:40
  together
• 34:40
  at
• 34:40
  the
• 34:41
  same
• 34:41
  time,
• 34:41
  and
• 34:41
  we've
• 34:42
  so.
• 34:42
  And
• 34:42
  we're
• 34:42
  all
• 34:42
  interested
• 34:43
  in
• 34:43
  multiple
• 34:43
  instruments,
• 34:43
  so
• 34:44
  for
• 34:44
  us,
• 34:44
  it's
• 34:44
  never
• 34:44
  been
• 34:45
  like
• 34:45
  that.
• 34:46
  Okay,
• 34:47
  luckily.
• 34:47
  Luckily.
• 34:48
  But
• 34:48
  I
• 34:48
  can
• 34:48
  tell
• 34:49
  you
• 34:49
  that
• 34:49
  it's
• 34:49
  hard
• 34:49
  to
• 34:49
  find
• 34:49
  other
• 34:50
  people
• 34:50
  to
• 34:50
  play
• 34:50
  with.
• 34:50
  I
• 34:51
  feel
• 34:51
  like
• 34:51
  not
• 34:51
  just
• 34:51
  playing
• 34:52
  with
• 34:52
  those
• 34:52
  two
• 34:52
  guys
• 34:53
  sometimes,
• 34:53
  you
• 34:53
  know?
• 34:53
  And
• 34:53
  it's
• 34:55
  because
• 34:56
  people
• 34:56
  bring
• 34:57
  their
• 34:57
  egos
• 34:57
  and
• 34:57
  people
• 34:58
  bring
• 34:59
  whatever
• 34:59
  other
• 34:59
  baggage.
• 35:00
  But
• 35:00
  I've
• 35:01
  definitely
• 35:01
  worked
• 35:01
  with
• 35:01
  bands
• 35:02
  where
• 35:03
  you
• 35:03
  just
• 35:03
  have
• 35:05
  drama,
• 35:06
  things
• 35:06
  happening
• 35:07
  like
• 35:07
  that,
• 35:07
  where
• 35:08
  musicians.
• 35:09
  One
• 35:09
  musician
• 35:10
  wants
• 35:10
  this
• 35:11
  line
• 35:11
  in
• 35:11
  there
• 35:11
  and
• 35:11
  the
• 35:11
  other
• 35:12
  one
• 35:12
  doesn't,
• 35:12
  and
• 35:12
  they
• 35:12
  actually,
• 35:12
  like,
• 35:13
  fight
• 35:13
  about
• 35:14
  it
• 35:14
  like
• 35:14
  kids.
• 35:15
  It's
• 35:15
  a
• 35:15
  little
• 35:15
  silly.
• 35:16
  Yeah.
• 35:17
  And
• 35:17
  I
• 35:18
  would
• 35:18
  understand
• 35:18
  that
• 35:19
  if
• 35:19
  somebody
• 35:19
  had,
• 35:19
  like,
• 35:21
  an
• 35:21
  artistic
• 35:22
  vision
• 35:22
  that
• 35:22
  was
• 35:23
  being
• 35:23
  trampled.
• 35:24
  But
• 35:24
  these
• 35:24
  can
• 35:25
  be
• 35:25
  small
• 35:25
  differences
• 35:26
  that
• 35:26
  really
• 35:27
  are
• 35:27
  just
• 35:27
  about.
• 35:28
  I
• 35:28
  want
• 35:28
  to
• 35:28
  be
• 35:28
  right.
• 35:28
  I
• 35:28
  want
• 35:28
  you
• 35:29
  to
• 35:29
  be
• 35:29
  wrong.
• 35:30
  Yeah,
• 35:31
  yeah.
• 35:32
  That's
• 35:32
  not
• 35:32
  really
• 35:32
  the
• 35:33
  place
• 35:33
  for
• 35:33
  it.
• 35:35
  No,
• 35:35
  no,
• 35:35
  I
• 35:36
  hear
• 35:36
  that.
• 35:36
  Yeah,
• 35:37
  that's
• 35:37
  a
• 35:37
  big
• 35:37
  one,
• 35:38
  actually.
• 35:38
  I
• 35:38
  was
• 35:38
  trying
• 35:39
  to
• 35:40
  intentionally,
• 35:40
  but
• 35:40
  I
• 35:41
  looked.
• 35:41
  Looks
• 35:42
  like
• 35:42
  I
• 35:42
  kept
• 35:42
  it
• 35:42
  more
• 35:42
  to
• 35:43
  the,
• 35:43
  like,
• 35:43
  professionalism
• 35:44
  and
• 35:44
  admin
• 35:45
  side
• 35:45
  and
• 35:46
  you.
• 35:46
  And
• 35:46
  hit
• 35:46
  him
• 35:46
  right
• 35:47
  in
• 35:47
  the
• 35:47
  heart,
• 35:48
  what
• 35:48
  you
• 35:48
  do.
• 35:48
  Creativity.
• 35:49
  Yeah,
• 35:51
  yeah.
• 35:51
  But
• 35:51
  it's
• 35:51
  also
• 35:52
  a
• 35:52
  business
• 35:53
  thing,
• 35:53
  right?
• 35:54
  Like
• 35:55
  drummers.
• 35:56
  You're
• 35:56
  a
• 35:56
  rhythm
• 35:56
  machine.
• 35:57
  That's
• 35:58
  what
• 35:58
  you're
• 35:58
  hired
• 35:58
  for.
• 35:59
  Keep
• 35:59
  the
• 35:59
  time.
• 36:00
  That's
• 36:00
  your
• 36:01
  business.
• 36:01
  Groove.
• 36:02
  Yeah.
• 36:04
  Unless
• 36:05
  Anthony
• 36:05
  the
• 36:05
  MD
• 36:06
  looks
• 36:06
  at
• 36:06
  you
• 36:06
  and
• 36:06
  goes,
• 36:07
  Phil,
• 36:07
  and
• 36:07
  then
• 36:08
  you
• 36:08
  go.
• 36:08
  Do
• 36:08
  a
• 36:08
  little
• 36:08
  more.
• 36:09
  Yeah,
• 36:10
  you'd
• 36:10
  be
• 36:10
  listening
• 36:11
  on
• 36:11
  my
• 36:11
  topic.
• 36:11
  Do
• 36:11
  you
• 36:11
  have
• 36:12
  one?
• 36:14
  No,
• 36:14
  I
• 36:15
  don't,
• 36:15
  unfortunately.
• 36:16
  I
• 36:16
  think
• 36:17
  you
• 36:17
  guys
• 36:17
  had
• 36:17
  a
• 36:18
  sweet
• 36:18
  list,
• 36:18
  and
• 36:19
  I
• 36:20
  don't
• 36:20
  really
• 36:20
  have
• 36:20
  much
• 36:20
  to
• 36:20
  add
• 36:21
  to
• 36:21
  that.
• 36:22
  So
• 36:22
  you
• 36:23
  busy
• 36:23
  tomorrow?
• 36:23
  One?
• 36:24
  I'm
• 36:25
  not.
• 36:25
  I
• 36:25
  thought
• 36:26
  you
• 36:26
  were
• 36:26
  gonna
• 36:27
  offer
• 36:27
  him
• 36:28
  to
• 36:28
  do
• 36:28
  a
• 36:28
  pod.
• 36:31
  Oh,
• 36:31
  because
• 36:31
  you
• 36:31
  don't
• 36:32
  want
• 36:32
  to
• 36:32
  do
• 36:32
  them
• 36:32
  in
• 36:32
  the
• 36:32
  evening,
• 36:33
  that's
• 36:34
  why.
• 36:34
  That's
• 36:34
  misunderstood.
• 36:35
  Oh,
• 36:36
  gotcha.
• 36:37
  And
• 36:38
  you
• 36:38
  were
• 36:38
  just
• 36:38
  giving
• 36:38
  an
• 36:38
  example.
• 36:39
  That
• 36:39
  was
• 36:39
  just
• 36:39
  the
• 36:39
  perfect
• 36:40
  time.
• 36:40
  When
• 36:40
  we
• 36:40
  finish
• 36:40
  our
• 36:40
  service.
• 36:42
  Makes
• 36:43
  sense.
• 36:43
  Makes
• 36:43
  sense.
• 36:44
  Yeah,
• 36:44
  it
• 36:44
  could
• 36:44
  have
• 36:44
  been
• 36:44
  that.
• 36:46
  That
• 36:46
  was
• 36:46
  a
• 36:46
  great
• 36:46
  list,
• 36:46
  though,
• 36:47
  Anthony.
• 36:47
  And
• 36:47
  I
• 36:47
  appreciate
• 36:48
  you
• 36:48
  sharing
• 36:48
  that
• 36:48
  with
• 36:49
  us
• 36:50
  and
• 36:50
  everyone
• 36:51
  listening.
• 36:52
  I
• 36:52
  think
• 36:52
  maybe
• 36:53
  we
• 36:53
  should
• 36:53
  try
• 36:53
  and
• 36:53
  do
• 36:53
  some
• 36:54
  more
• 36:54
  lists
• 36:54
  and
• 36:54
  break
• 36:54
  them
• 36:55
  down.
• 36:55
  Not
• 36:55
  all
• 36:55
  the
• 36:56
  time,
• 36:56
  but
• 36:56
  I'd
• 36:57
  appreciate
• 36:57
  some
• 36:57
  more
• 36:58
  lists.
• 36:58
  Like,
• 36:58
  I
• 36:58
  think
• 36:59
  Matt
• 36:59
  maybe
• 36:59
  like
• 37:00
  studio
• 37:00
  etiquette
• 37:01
  and
• 37:01
  just
• 37:01
  kind
• 37:01
  of
• 37:02
  like
• 37:02
  some
• 37:02
  things
• 37:02
  that
• 37:03
  you
• 37:03
  hate,
• 37:03
  you
• 37:03
  know?
• 37:04
  Sure.
• 37:05
  Suspense.
• 37:06
  I
• 37:06
  want
• 37:06
  to
• 37:06
  hear
• 37:06
  them
• 37:06
  now.
• 37:07
  Yeah,
• 37:07
  that
• 37:07
  would
• 37:07
  be
• 37:07
  a
• 37:08
  fun
• 37:08
  one.
• 37:08
  I'm
• 37:08
  sure
• 37:08
  we
• 37:08
  could
• 37:08
  come
• 37:08
  up
• 37:09
  with.
• 37:09
  Some
• 37:09
  other
• 37:09
  cool
• 37:09
  ideas
• 37:10
  and
• 37:10
  we
• 37:11
  can
• 37:11
  make
• 37:11
  a
• 37:11
  version
• 37:11
  for
• 37:12
  home
• 37:13
  studios
• 37:13
  too.
• 37:14
  Those
• 37:14
  work
• 37:15
  differently.
• 37:15
  That's
• 37:16
  interesting.
• 37:16
  Yeah,
• 37:17
  very
• 37:17
  good.
• 37:18
  Very
• 37:18
  good.
• 37:20
  Before
• 37:20
  we
• 37:20
  go,
• 37:21
  I
• 37:21
  did
• 37:22
  another
• 37:22
  podcast
• 37:23
  while
• 37:23
  you
• 37:23
  were
• 37:23
  gone,
• 37:24
  Matt,
• 37:24
  and
• 37:25
  we
• 37:25
  talked
• 37:25
  about
• 37:26
  something
• 37:26
  that
• 37:27
  me
• 37:27
  and
• 37:27
  Anthony
• 37:27
  kind
• 37:28
  of
• 37:28
  were
• 37:28
  really
• 37:30
  not
• 37:31
  ignorant
• 37:31
  on,
• 37:31
  but
• 37:31
  we
• 37:31
  just
• 37:32
  don't
• 37:32
  really
• 37:32
  know
• 37:32
  much
• 37:33
  about.
• 37:33
  And
• 37:33
  I
• 37:33
  was
• 37:34
  always
• 37:34
  curious.
• 37:35
  Cause
• 37:35
  I
• 37:35
  know
• 37:35
  you
• 37:35
  know
• 37:35
  a
• 37:36
  lot
• 37:36
  about
• 37:36
  basically
• 37:37
  everything.
• 37:40
  Yeah,
• 37:41
  you
• 37:41
  just
• 37:41
  have
• 37:41
  knowledge
• 37:41
  on
• 37:42
  everything.
• 37:42
  And
• 37:42
  I
• 37:42
  wondered
• 37:43
  how
• 37:43
  sharp
• 37:43
  your
• 37:44
  music,
• 37:44
  your
• 37:45
  canadian
• 37:45
  music
• 37:46
  knowledge
• 37:46
  is.
• 37:46
  Specifically.
• 37:47
  Your
• 37:47
  black
• 37:48
  canadian
• 37:49
  music
• 37:49
  knowledge.
• 37:50
  More
• 37:51
  specific.
• 37:52
  Probably
• 37:54
  not.
• 37:55
  Depends
• 37:55
  on.
• 37:56
  And
• 37:57
  we're
• 37:57
  going
• 37:57
  historically.
• 37:58
  We're
• 37:59
  going
• 37:59
  pre
• 37:59
  what?
• 38:00
  Pre
• 38:00
  ninety's
• 38:01
  what
• 38:01
  we're
• 38:01
  saying
• 38:01
  or
• 38:01
  what?
• 38:02
  Yeah.
• 38:02
  Yeah.
• 38:03
  Pre
• 38:03
  ninety's
• 38:03
  would
• 38:04
  be
• 38:04
  a
• 38:04
  good
• 38:04
  start.
• 38:05
  Probably
• 38:05
  not.
• 38:05
  That's
• 38:05
  when
• 38:06
  I
• 38:06
  started.
• 38:06
  Great.
• 38:07
  Pre
• 38:07
  ninety's
• 38:08
  black
• 38:08
  canadian
• 38:09
  music,
• 38:09
  Matt.
• 38:09
  Go.
• 38:11
  What?
• 38:11
  What
• 38:11
  do
• 38:12
  you
• 38:12
  got?
• 38:12
  What's
• 38:12
  the
• 38:12
  query
• 38:13
  search
• 38:13
  for?
• 38:13
  I
• 38:13
  think
• 38:13
  I'm
• 38:13
  done
• 38:13
  at
• 38:14
  the
• 38:14
  nineties.
• 38:14
  I
• 38:15
  think
• 38:15
  I
• 38:15
  got
• 38:15
  Shaggy.
• 38:19
  Like,
• 38:19
  I'd
• 38:19
  have
• 38:19
  to
• 38:20
  think
• 38:20
  pretty
• 38:20
  hard.
• 38:21
  Wait,
• 38:21
  Shaggy's
• 38:22
  not
• 38:22
  even
• 38:22
  canadian.
• 38:23
  Yes,
• 38:23
  he
• 38:23
  is.
• 38:24
  He
• 38:24
  got,
• 38:25
  Shaggy's
• 38:25
  not
• 38:25
  canadian.
• 38:27
  What?
• 38:28
  Like,
• 38:28
  yes,
• 38:28
  he
• 38:28
  is.
• 38:29
  He
• 38:29
  born
• 38:29
  in
• 38:29
  Canada.
• 38:30
  Mocha.
• 38:30
  Only.
• 38:33
  Shaggy
• 38:33
  isn't
• 38:34
  canadian.
• 38:35
  That's
• 38:35
  somebody.
• 38:37
  Oh,
• 38:37
  Drake
• 38:37
  is
• 38:38
  looking
• 38:38
  it
• 38:38
  up.
• 38:40
  Yeah.
• 38:41
  My
• 38:41
  only
• 38:41
  example
• 38:42
  is
• 38:42
  Shaggy,
• 38:42
  and
• 38:42
  he's
• 38:43
  not
• 38:43
  even
• 38:43
  canadian.
• 38:44
  He's
• 38:45
  heavy
• 38:45
  in
• 38:46
  the
• 38:46
  canadian
• 38:46
  market.
• 38:46
  I
• 38:46
  don't
• 38:47
  know
• 38:47
  if
• 38:47
  he's.
• 38:47
  I'm
• 38:48
  not
• 38:48
  sure
• 38:50
  that's
• 38:50
  a
• 38:50
  good,
• 38:50
  good
• 38:51
  impression.
• 38:52
  But
• 38:52
  yeah,
• 38:52
  we
• 38:52
  were
• 38:53
  kind
• 38:53
  of
• 38:53
  the
• 38:53
  same
• 38:53
  way.
• 38:53
  So
• 38:54
  me
• 38:54
  and
• 38:54
  Anthony
• 38:54
  were
• 38:54
  gonna
• 38:55
  see
• 38:56
  if
• 38:56
  you
• 38:56
  knew
• 38:56
  anything.
• 38:56
  You
• 38:57
  could
• 38:57
  drop
• 38:57
  some,
• 38:57
  like,
• 38:58
  knowledge
• 38:58
  on
• 38:58
  us
• 38:58
  or
• 38:58
  a
• 38:59
  good
• 38:59
  place
• 38:59
  to
• 38:59
  start,
• 39:00
  but
• 39:00
  nobody
• 39:01
  knows,
• 39:01
  you
• 39:01
  mean,
• 39:01
  you
• 39:02
  probably
• 39:02
  know
• 39:02
  Oscar
• 39:03
  Peterson,
• 39:03
  right?
• 39:03
  I
• 39:03
  was
• 39:03
  just
• 39:04
  gonna
• 39:04
  say
• 39:04
  Oscar
• 39:04
  Peterson,
• 39:05
  but
• 39:05
  does
• 39:05
  that
• 39:05
  even
• 39:05
  count?
• 39:05
  Like,
• 39:06
  that's
• 39:06
  a
• 39:06
  legend.
• 39:07
  Yeah,
• 39:08
  yeah,
• 39:08
  this
• 39:09
  is
• 39:09
  just
• 39:09
  from.
• 39:10
  That's
• 39:10
  kind
• 39:10
  of.
• 39:11
  Me
• 39:11
  and
• 39:11
  Anthony
• 39:11
  got
• 39:12
  stuck
• 39:12
  at
• 39:12
  was
• 39:12
  like,
• 39:12
  damn.
• 39:14
  And
• 39:14
  then
• 39:14
  we
• 39:14
  found
• 39:15
  a
• 39:15
  weird
• 39:15
  list
• 39:15
  of,
• 39:16
  like,
• 39:17
  people
• 39:18
  that
• 39:18
  we
• 39:18
  didn't
• 39:19
  even
• 39:19
  think
• 39:19
  were
• 39:19
  really
• 39:20
  worth
• 39:20
  mentioning
• 39:21
  yet
• 39:21
  in
• 39:21
  terms
• 39:22
  of
• 39:22
  just
• 39:22
  canadian
• 39:23
  music
• 39:23
  legacy.
• 39:24
  But
• 39:25
  I
• 39:25
  mean,
• 39:25
  I
• 39:25
  appreciated
• 39:26
  the
• 39:26
  list
• 39:26
  regardless.
• 39:27
  But,
• 39:28
  yeah,
• 39:28
  we
• 39:29
  just
• 39:29
  wanted
• 39:29
  to
• 39:29
  see
• 39:29
  what
• 39:29
  you
• 39:30
  knew.
• 39:30
  And
• 39:30
  I
• 39:30
  think
• 39:30
  in
• 39:30
  the
• 39:31
  upcoming
• 39:31
  podcast,
• 39:32
  we're
• 39:32
  probably
• 39:33
  going
• 39:33
  to
• 39:33
  start
• 39:33
  really
• 39:33
  digging
• 39:34
  deeper
• 39:34
  into,
• 39:35
  like
• 39:35
  you
• 39:36
  guys
• 39:36
  said,
• 39:36
  pre
• 39:36
  ninety's
• 39:37
  anything.
• 39:38
  Maybe
• 39:38
  even
• 39:38
  start
• 39:38
  with
• 39:38
  the
• 39:39
  eighties
• 39:39
  and
• 39:39
  go
• 39:39
  back.
• 39:39
  Let's
• 39:40
  do
• 39:40
  it.
• 39:40
  Really
• 39:41
  curious
• 39:41
  into
• 39:42
  finding
• 39:42
  out
• 39:42
  a
• 39:42
  little
• 39:43
  bit
• 39:43
  more
• 39:44
  on
• 39:44
  that,
• 39:44
  the
• 39:45
  history
• 39:45
  of
• 39:45
  black
• 39:45
  music
• 39:46
  in
• 39:46
  Canada.
• 39:48
  And
• 39:48
  I
• 39:48
  think
• 39:49
  at
• 39:49
  the
• 39:49
  same
• 39:49
  time,
• 39:50
  you
• 39:50
  could
• 39:50
  even
• 39:51
  drop
• 39:51
  some
• 39:52
  jewish
• 39:52
  knowledge
• 39:53
  on
• 39:53
  us
• 39:53
  and
• 39:53
  go
• 39:54
  a
• 39:54
  little
• 39:54
  bit
• 39:54
  deeper,
• 39:55
  for
• 39:55
  sure,
• 39:56
  you
• 39:56
  know,
• 39:57
  that
• 39:57
  culture
• 39:58
  and
• 39:58
  their
• 39:59
  historical
• 39:59
  music
• 40:00
  as
• 40:00
  well.
• 40:00
  I
• 40:01
  think
• 40:02
  up
• 40:02
  until
• 40:03
  like,
• 40:03
  since
• 40:03
  World
• 40:03
  War
• 40:04
  two
• 40:04
  and
• 40:04
  up
• 40:04
  until
• 40:05
  somewhat
• 40:05
  recently,
• 40:06
  anything
• 40:07
  like
• 40:07
  America
• 40:08
  was
• 40:08
  where
• 40:08
  it
• 40:09
  was
• 40:09
  at
• 40:09
  the
• 40:09
  culturally.
• 40:10
  Right,
• 40:11
  everybody?
• 40:12
  And
• 40:12
  I
• 40:12
  think
• 40:12
  it
• 40:12
  was
• 40:13
  especially
• 40:14
  extra
• 40:15
  hard
• 40:16
  for
• 40:16
  black
• 40:16
  people
• 40:17
  in
• 40:17
  Canada
• 40:18
  to
• 40:19
  be
• 40:19
  taken
• 40:19
  seriously
• 40:20
  when,
• 40:20
  like,
• 40:21
  the
• 40:21
  cradle
• 40:22
  of
• 40:22
  modern
• 40:23
  music
• 40:23
  is
• 40:24
  just
• 40:24
  south
• 40:24
  of
• 40:25
  their
• 40:25
  border.
• 40:26
  So
• 40:27
  I
• 40:27
  feel
• 40:27
  like
• 40:28
  nobody
• 40:28
  wanted
• 40:28
  to
• 40:29
  invest.
• 40:29
  But
• 40:29
  now,
• 40:29
  even
• 40:30
  when
• 40:30
  you're
• 40:30
  scrolling
• 40:30
  through
• 40:30
  TikTok,
• 40:31
  you're
• 40:31
  hearing
• 40:31
  like,
• 40:31
  russian
• 40:32
  music
• 40:32
  and
• 40:33
  music
• 40:34
  from
• 40:34
  everywhere.
• 40:34
  America
• 40:35
  is
• 40:35
  no
• 40:35
  longer
• 40:35
  in
• 40:35
  the
• 40:35
  lead,
• 40:37
  in
• 40:38
  a
• 40:38
  sense.
• 40:38
  You
• 40:38
  don't
• 40:38
  think
• 40:39
  they're
• 40:39
  in
• 40:39
  the
• 40:39
  lead?
• 40:40
  Well,
• 40:41
  sorry,
• 40:41
  I
• 40:41
  shouldn't
• 40:42
  say
• 40:42
  that.
• 40:42
  America's
• 40:42
  people
• 40:43
  are
• 40:43
  catching
• 40:43
  up.
• 40:43
  I
• 40:44
  think
• 40:44
  people
• 40:44
  are
• 40:44
  catching
• 40:44
  up,
• 40:45
  catching
• 40:45
  up.
• 40:45
  And
• 40:46
  even
• 40:46
  so,
• 40:47
  for
• 40:47
  a
• 40:47
  long
• 40:47
  time,
• 40:47
  we're
• 40:48
  going
• 40:48
  to
• 40:48
  hear
• 40:48
  the
• 40:48
  vestiges.
• 40:48
  Like,
• 40:49
  if
• 40:49
  you
• 40:49
  listen
• 40:49
  to
• 40:49
  K
• 40:49
  pop,
• 40:50
  which
• 40:50
  is
• 40:50
  a
• 40:50
  totally
• 40:50
  different
• 40:51
  thing,
• 40:51
  but
• 40:51
  if
• 40:51
  you
• 40:52
  really
• 40:52
  break
• 40:52
  down
• 40:52
  K
• 40:53
  pop,
• 40:54
  it's
• 40:54
  all
• 40:54
  american
• 40:55
  music.
• 40:56
  Yep.
• 40:57
  It's
• 40:57
  drums,
• 40:58
  guitar,
• 41:00
  you
• 41:00
  know,
• 41:01
  major
• 41:01
  minor
• 41:02
  scales,
• 41:02
  and
• 41:03
  like,
• 41:04
  european
• 41:05
  american
• 41:05
  music
• 41:06
  that
• 41:07
  has
• 41:07
  gone
• 41:08
  through
• 41:08
  the
• 41:08
  mill
• 41:08
  and
• 41:09
  now
• 41:09
  ended
• 41:10
  up
• 41:10
  in.
• 41:11
  In
• 41:11
  the
• 41:12
  east,
• 41:13
  and
• 41:13
  now
• 41:13
  they're
• 41:13
  doing
• 41:13
  something
• 41:14
  totally
• 41:14
  different
• 41:14
  with
• 41:14
  it.
• 41:15
  But
• 41:15
  the
• 41:15
  point
• 41:15
  is,
• 41:16
  I
• 41:16
  don't
• 41:16
  think
• 41:16
  K
• 41:17
  pop
• 41:17
  would
• 41:17
  have
• 41:17
  been
• 41:17
  popular
• 41:18
  in
• 41:18
  the
• 41:18
  eighties
• 41:19
  without
• 41:19
  the
• 41:20
  Internet.
• 41:20
  And
• 41:20
  with
• 41:21
  America
• 41:21
  having
• 41:21
  more
• 41:21
  of
• 41:22
  a
• 41:22
  stronghold
• 41:23
  on
• 41:23
  the
• 41:23
  free
• 41:23
  world,
• 41:24
  quote
• 41:24
  unquote,
• 41:26
  I
• 41:26
  don't
• 41:26
  know
• 41:26
  if
• 41:26
  I'm
• 41:27
  getting
• 41:27
  out
• 41:28
  there,
• 41:28
  but
• 41:28
  it
• 41:29
  feels
• 41:29
  like
• 41:29
  canadian
• 41:29
  music
• 41:30
  now.
• 41:30
  Like,
• 41:30
  do
• 41:30
  you
• 41:30
  think
• 41:30
  it's
• 41:30
  a
• 41:31
  coincidence
• 41:31
  that
• 41:32
  so
• 41:32
  much
• 41:32
  canadian
• 41:32
  music
• 41:33
  is
• 41:33
  big
• 41:33
  now
• 41:33
  in
• 41:33
  the
• 41:34
  world?
• 41:37
  I
• 41:37
  don't
• 41:37
  think
• 41:38
  it's
• 41:38
  a
• 41:38
  coincidence,
• 41:39
  but
• 41:39
  I
• 41:39
  think
• 41:41
  when
• 41:41
  you
• 41:41
  find
• 41:42
  a
• 41:42
  giant
• 41:43
  superstar
• 41:43
  like
• 41:44
  a
• 41:44
  Drake,
• 41:44
  I
• 41:45
  think
• 41:45
  he
• 41:45
  opened
• 41:45
  up
• 41:46
  people's
• 41:47
  willingness
• 41:48
  to
• 41:48
  give
• 41:48
  canadian
• 41:49
  artists
• 41:50
  more
• 41:50
  of
• 41:50
  a
• 41:50
  chance.
• 41:52
  And
• 41:52
  I
• 41:52
  think
• 41:52
  that
• 41:52
  you
• 41:52
  get
• 41:53
  that
• 41:53
  when
• 41:53
  you
• 41:53
  get
• 41:53
  any
• 41:54
  big
• 41:54
  artists,
• 41:55
  they
• 41:55
  always
• 41:55
  tend
• 41:56
  to
• 41:56
  bring
• 41:56
  a
• 41:56
  couple
• 41:56
  others
• 41:57
  around.
• 41:58
  Like
• 41:58
  when
• 41:58
  the
• 41:58
  UK
• 41:58
  has
• 41:59
  a
• 41:59
  little
• 41:59
  run,
• 42:00
  you
• 42:00
  get
• 42:00
  some
• 42:00
  other
• 42:01
  big
• 42:01
  uk
• 42:01
  artists
• 42:02
  that
• 42:02
  get
• 42:02
  to
• 42:02
  come
• 42:02
  cross
• 42:03
  over
• 42:03
  into
• 42:04
  North
• 42:04
  America.
• 42:05
  That's
• 42:06
  my
• 42:06
  opinion.
• 42:06
  I
• 42:06
  might
• 42:06
  be
• 42:07
  wrong,
• 42:07
  but
• 42:07
  it
• 42:07
  wasn't.
• 42:07
  Just
• 42:08
  Drake,
• 42:08
  it
• 42:08
  was
• 42:08
  Bieber.
• 42:10
  Right,
• 42:10
  yes,
• 42:11
  exactly.
• 42:11
  Sorry.
• 42:11
  Of
• 42:12
  course.
• 42:12
  And
• 42:12
  that
• 42:12
  was
• 42:12
  kind
• 42:12
  of
• 42:12
  before
• 42:13
  Drake.
• 42:13
  Right.
• 42:14
  And
• 42:14
  the
• 42:14
  weekend.
• 42:15
  Yeah,
• 42:15
  yeah,
• 42:16
  the
• 42:16
  weekend
• 42:16
  came
• 42:16
  through
• 42:16
  Drake.
• 42:17
  But
• 42:17
  it's.
• 42:18
  I
• 42:18
  just
• 42:18
  think
• 42:19
  people
• 42:19
  are
• 42:20
  more
• 42:20
  open
• 42:21
  to
• 42:21
  not
• 42:21
  american
• 42:22
  music
• 42:22
  now.
• 42:23
  Absolutely.
• 42:24
  And
• 42:24
  I
• 42:25
  think
• 42:25
  the
• 42:25
  Internet
• 42:25
  obviously
• 42:26
  was
• 42:26
  a
• 42:26
  catalyst
• 42:27
  for
• 42:27
  that,
• 42:27
  you
• 42:27
  know?
• 42:27
  Yeah,
• 42:28
  that
• 42:28
  makes
• 42:28
  sense.
• 42:29
  Open
• 42:29
  the
• 42:29
  doors.
• 42:30
  Yeah.
• 42:30
  That's
• 42:30
  kind
• 42:30
  of
• 42:31
  bewildering
• 42:31
  that
• 42:32
  none
• 42:32
  of
• 42:32
  us
• 42:32
  can
• 42:32
  really
• 42:33
  think
• 42:33
  of.
• 42:34
  I
• 42:34
  mean,
• 42:35
  I'm
• 42:35
  an
• 42:35
  immigrant,
• 42:35
  whatever.
• 42:36
  But
• 42:36
  you
• 42:36
  guys
• 42:36
  can't
• 42:36
  even
• 42:37
  think
• 42:37
  of
• 42:38
  artists
• 42:38
  from
• 42:38
  the
• 42:38
  nineties.
• 42:39
  I
• 42:39
  guess
• 42:39
  it
• 42:39
  just.
• 42:40
  Yeah.
• 42:40
  What
• 42:40
  did
• 42:40
  they
• 42:40
  do?
• 42:41
  No,
• 42:41
  we
• 42:41
  can.
• 42:41
  The
• 42:41
  nineties,
• 42:41
  it's
• 42:42
  like
• 42:42
  eighties.
• 42:44
  Yeah.
• 42:45
  Well
• 42:45
  maybe
• 42:45
  we
• 42:45
  need
• 42:47
  to
• 42:47
  talk
• 42:47
  to
• 42:47
  someone
• 42:48
  who's
• 42:48
  a
• 42:48
  little
• 42:48
  bit
• 42:48
  older
• 42:49
  than
• 42:49
  us
• 42:49
  and
• 42:49
  see
• 42:50
  Alan
• 42:50
  Cross.
• 42:51
  That's
• 42:51
  a
• 42:51
  great
• 42:52
  place
• 42:52
  to
• 42:52
  start.
• 42:53
  Alan
• 42:53
  Cross?
• 42:53
  Yeah.
• 42:54
  Only
• 42:54
  he'd
• 42:54
  be
• 42:54
  a
• 42:54
  great
• 42:54
  one.
• 42:55
  Yeah,
• 42:55
  I'm
• 42:55
  sure
• 42:55
  he'll
• 42:55
  know
• 42:56
  some.
• 42:57
  Some
• 42:57
  gems.
• 42:57
  Yeah,
• 42:58
  he
• 42:58
  could
• 42:58
  definitely
• 42:58
  rock,
• 42:59
  but
• 43:00
  sorry.
• 43:01
  I'm
• 43:01
  sure
• 43:02
  he
• 43:02
  could
• 43:02
  steer
• 43:02
  us
• 43:02
  in
• 43:02
  the
• 43:03
  right
• 43:03
  direction.
• 43:03
  Like
• 43:04
  he
• 43:04
  has
• 43:04
  a
• 43:04
  plethora
• 43:05
  of
• 43:05
  knowledge
• 43:05
  even.
• 43:06
  At
• 43:06
  least
• 43:06
  be
• 43:06
  able
• 43:06
  to
• 43:06
  name
• 43:07
  drop
• 43:07
  Mister
• 43:08
  Alper.
• 43:08
  I'm
• 43:09
  sure
• 43:09
  he'll
• 43:09
  have
• 43:09
  some.
• 43:10
  That
• 43:10
  guy
• 43:10
  too.
• 43:10
  Yeah,
• 43:11
  actually,
• 43:11
  yeah.
• 43:12
  Better.
• 43:13
  Could
• 43:14
  we
• 43:14
  get
• 43:14
  better
• 43:14
  both
• 43:14
  on
• 43:14
  Mister
• 43:15
  Cross?
• 43:15
  Of
• 43:15
  course.
• 43:16
  Interesting
• 43:16
  conversation.
• 43:18
  Yeah.
• 43:19
  If
• 43:19
  anyone
• 43:20
  could
• 43:20
  do
• 43:20
  it.
• 43:20
  I
• 43:20
  believe
• 43:20
  you
• 43:21
  could,
• 43:21
  to
• 43:21
  be
• 43:21
  honest.
• 43:22
  But
• 43:22
  that
• 43:23
  would
• 43:23
  be
• 43:23
  an
• 43:23
  interesting
• 43:24
  conversation.
• 43:24
  I
• 43:24
  wouldn't.
• 43:25
  Tell
• 43:25
  you
• 43:25
  what,
• 43:25
  I
• 43:25
  want
• 43:25
  to
• 43:25
  hear
• 43:26
  them
• 43:26
  talk.
• 43:27
  Let's
• 43:27
  do
• 43:27
  this.
• 43:28
  All
• 43:28
  right.
• 43:29
  Let
• 43:29
  me
• 43:29
  go
• 43:30
  to
• 43:30
  sleep.
• 43:30
  Okay.
• 43:32
  If
• 43:32
  I
• 43:32
  dream
• 43:33
  it,
• 43:33
  I'll
• 43:33
  wake
• 43:33
  up
• 43:34
  in
• 43:34
  the
• 43:34
  morning
• 43:34
  and
• 43:34
  I'll
• 43:34
  email
• 43:35
  them
• 43:35
  both
• 43:36
  like
• 43:36
  a
• 43:36
  three
• 43:36
  way
• 43:37
  call.
• 43:37
  Email.
• 43:38
  You're
• 43:38
  crazy.
• 43:39
  You're
• 43:39
  crazy,
• 43:40
  girl.
• 43:41
  We
• 43:41
  have
• 43:41
  a
• 43:42
  disease.
• 43:43
  Yeah,
• 43:44
  only
• 43:45
  me
• 43:45
  and
• 43:45
  Matt.
• 43:45
  Me
• 43:45
  and
• 43:46
  Matt.
• 43:46
  Get
• 43:46
  it?
• 43:46
  No,
• 43:47
  I
• 43:47
  know
• 43:47
  you
• 43:47
  won't
• 43:47
  get
• 43:48
  an
• 43:48
  if
• 43:48
  you
• 43:48
  could.
• 43:48
  You're
• 43:48
  a
• 43:48
  smart
• 43:49
  man.
• 43:50
  That's
• 43:51
  it.
• 43:51
  Crazy
• 43:51
  man.
• 43:52
  But
• 43:52
  you
• 43:52
  said
• 43:52
  you
• 43:53
  crazy
• 43:53
  girl.
• 43:54
  Who's
• 43:55
  Jay
• 43:55
  Martin?
• 43:55
  Remember
• 43:56
  that?
• 43:56
  Yeah.
• 43:57
  How's
• 43:58
  he
• 43:58
  been?
• 43:58
  Shout
• 43:58
  out
• 43:58
  to
• 43:59
  Jay
• 44:01
  in
• 44:01
  the
• 44:02
  radio.
• 44:02
  Waves
• 44:03
  and
• 44:04
  things
• 44:04
  like
• 44:04
  that.
• 44:04
  Maybe
• 44:05
  he
• 44:05
  knows.
• 44:05
  How
• 44:06
  old
• 44:06
  is
• 44:06
  Jay
• 44:06
  Martin?
• 44:08
  Ten
• 44:09
  years
• 44:09
  old
• 44:09
  than
• 44:09
  me,
• 44:12
  I
• 44:12
  guess
• 44:12
  we'll
• 44:12
  just.
• 44:12
  Let's
• 44:12
  just
• 44:13
  ask
• 44:13
  everybody.
• 44:14
  Ask
• 44:14
  everybody.
• 44:15
  And
• 44:15
  then
• 44:15
  when
• 44:15
  we.
• 44:16
  In
• 44:16
  a
• 44:16
  couple
• 44:16
  of
• 44:16
  weeks,
• 44:17
  we'll
• 44:17
  get
• 44:17
  back
• 44:17
  together
• 44:17
  and
• 44:18
  we'll
• 44:18
  revisit
• 44:19
  this
• 44:19
  conversation.
• 44:20
  White,
• 44:20
  black,
• 44:21
  just
• 44:21
  jump
• 44:21
  to
• 44:22
  anybody
• 44:22
  on
• 44:22
  the
• 44:22
  street
• 44:22
  and
• 44:22
  be
• 44:23
  like,
• 44:23
  name
• 44:23
  a
• 44:23
  black
• 44:24
  artist
• 44:24
  from
• 44:24
  Canada
• 44:24
  from
• 44:25
  the
• 44:25
  eighties.
• 44:25
  Go.
• 44:26
  I
• 44:27
  honestly
• 44:27
  want
• 44:27
  to
• 44:28
  film
• 44:28
  that
• 44:28
  and
• 44:28
  just
• 44:29
  kind
• 44:29
  of,
• 44:29
  like,
• 44:29
  make
• 44:30
  that
• 44:30
  the
• 44:30
  preface
• 44:30
  of,
• 44:31
  like,
• 44:31
  this
• 44:31
  whole,
• 44:32
  you
• 44:32
  know,
• 44:33
  movement,
• 44:33
  because
• 44:33
  I'd
• 44:34
  love
• 44:34
  to
• 44:34
  just
• 44:34
  stop
• 44:35
  strangers
• 44:35
  on
• 44:35
  the
• 44:35
  street
• 44:36
  and
• 44:36
  be
• 44:36
  like,
• 44:36
  what
• 44:36
  do
• 44:37
  you
• 44:37
  know
• 44:37
  about
• 44:37
  black
• 44:38
  canadian
• 44:38
  music
• 44:39
  before
• 44:39
  1990?
• 44:40
  And
• 44:40
  watch
• 44:40
  them
• 44:40
  go.
• 44:41
  Just
• 44:42
  like
• 44:42
  me
• 44:42
  and
• 44:42
  Anthony
• 44:43
  went,
• 44:44
  like,
• 44:44
  Americans.
• 44:44
  When
• 44:45
  you
• 44:45
  ask
• 44:45
  them
• 44:45
  about
• 44:45
  Canada.
• 44:46
  Exactly.
• 44:47
  Y'all
• 44:47
  live
• 44:48
  in
• 44:48
  igloos.
• 44:49
  Yeah,
• 44:50
  unfortunately,
• 44:50
  we
• 44:51
  went
• 44:51
  to
• 44:51
  visit
• 44:51
  someone
• 44:51
  in
• 44:52
  Washington,
• 44:52
  and
• 44:53
  they
• 44:53
  genuinely
• 44:54
  thought
• 44:54
  that.
• 44:55
  And
• 44:55
  they
• 44:55
  also
• 44:55
  thought
• 44:56
  that
• 44:56
  we
• 44:56
  bathed
• 44:56
  in,
• 44:57
  like,
• 44:57
  evian
• 44:57
  water.
• 44:58
  Like,
• 44:58
  he's
• 44:59
  drinking
• 44:59
  Evian.
• 44:59
  He's
• 44:59
  like,
• 45:00
  y'all
• 45:00
  bathe
• 45:00
  in
• 45:01
  this,
• 45:01
  don't
• 45:01
  you?
• 45:01
  And
• 45:01
  I'm
• 45:02
  like,
• 45:02
  what?
• 45:03
  Where
• 45:03
  did
• 45:04
  that
• 45:04
  come
• 45:04
  from?
• 45:07
  In
• 45:07
  California,
• 45:08
  they
• 45:09
  asked
• 45:09
  me
• 45:10
  legitimately
• 45:10
  if
• 45:11
  we
• 45:11
  hunt
• 45:11
  our
• 45:11
  own
• 45:11
  food.
• 45:12
  Yeah.
• 45:13
  Wow.
• 45:13
  It
• 45:14
  just
• 45:14
  like,
• 45:15
  yeah.
• 45:15
  Who
• 45:16
  are
• 45:16
  we?
• 45:16
  Some
• 45:16
  of
• 45:17
  the
• 45:17
  things
• 45:17
  they
• 45:17
  genuinely
• 45:18
  believe,
• 45:19
  like,
• 45:19
  the
• 45:19
  aboot
• 45:19
  thing
• 45:20
  was
• 45:20
  really
• 45:20
  weird,
• 45:20
  too,
• 45:20
  because
• 45:21
  they
• 45:21
  were
• 45:21
  like,
• 45:21
  why
• 45:21
  don't
• 45:22
  you
• 45:22
  say
• 45:22
  aboot?
• 45:22
  And
• 45:22
  I'm
• 45:23
  like,
• 45:23
  nobody
• 45:23
  says
• 45:24
  aboot.
• 45:24
  I
• 45:25
  don't
• 45:25
  know.
• 45:25
  Anyone
• 45:25
  says
• 45:25
  aboot.
• 45:26
  They
• 45:26
  say
• 45:26
  aboot.
• 45:27
  Abo.
• 45:28
  There's,
• 45:28
  like
• 45:28
  an
• 45:29
  o.
• 45:29
  They
• 45:29
  were
• 45:29
  saying
• 45:29
  aboot.
• 45:30
  And
• 45:30
  I
• 45:30
  was
• 45:30
  like,
• 45:31
  I
• 45:31
  don't
• 45:31
  know.
• 45:32
  Anyone
• 45:32
  says
• 45:32
  aboot.
• 45:33
  Get
• 45:33
  out
• 45:33
  of
• 45:33
  here.
• 45:35
  Some
• 45:35
  aboot
• 45:36
  to
• 45:36
  punch
• 45:36
  you
• 45:36
  in
• 45:36
  your
• 45:36
  mouth.
• 45:39
  Well,
• 45:40
  on
• 45:40
  that
• 45:40
  note,
• 45:41
  Anthony's
• 45:42
  literally,
• 45:43
  look
• 45:43
  at
• 45:43
  Anthony.
• 45:44
  You're
• 45:44
  about
• 45:44
  to
• 45:45
  melt
• 45:45
  out
• 45:45
  of
• 45:46
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• 45:46
  chest.
• 45:46
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• 45:46
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• 45:46
  getting
• 45:46
  close.
• 45:49
  Anthony's
• 45:49
  sleep
• 45:50
  potting
• 45:50
  right
• 45:50
  now.
• 45:51
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• 45:51
  gonna
• 45:51
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• 45:51
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• 45:51
  in
• 45:51
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• 45:51
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• 45:52
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• 45:52
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• 45:52
  like,
• 45:52
  wait,
• 45:52
  did
• 45:52
  we
• 45:52
  talk
• 45:53
  about
• 45:53
  the
• 45:53
  list?
• 45:53
  Was
• 45:53
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• 45:54
  real
• 45:54
  or
• 45:54
  was
• 45:54
  that
• 45:54
  a
• 45:54
  dream?
• 45:55
  It
• 45:56
  was
• 45:56
  real.
• 45:56
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• 45:56
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• 45:56
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• 45:56
  wait
• 45:56
  a
• 45:57
  couple
• 45:57
  weeks
• 45:57
  to
• 45:57
  hear
• 45:58
  when
• 45:58
  it's
• 45:58
  released.
• 46:01
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• 46:01
  enjoy
• 46:02
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• 46:02
  night.
• 46:02
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• 46:02
  get
• 46:02
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• 46:03
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• 46:04
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• 46:04
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• 46:04
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• 46:05
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• 46:05
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• 46:05
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• 46:06
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• 46:07
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• 46:07
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• 46:07
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• 46:08
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• 46:08
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• 46:09
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• 46:09
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• 46:10
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• 46:12
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• 46:13
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• 46:14
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• 46:14
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