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- 0:07Speaker 1: It's six eastern it's three o'clock pacific this is a
- 0:10Speaker 1: president of action coast to coast and around the world
- 0:13Speaker 1: from the america out loud talk radio studios.
- 0:16Speaker 2: If he says he's serious about something he means it it's.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Time for the truth be told with booker scott.
- 0:23Speaker 3: The dust has now settled on Donald Trump's trip to China,
- 0:26Speaker 3: so it's time to take a look at it. Let's
- 0:29Speaker 3: talk about that tonight. We'll also talk about Iran, but
- 0:32Speaker 3: before we do all of that, we have to get
- 0:35Speaker 3: into what is going on now, and that is the
- 0:37Speaker 3: primary election season for the midterm coming up in November.
- 0:42Speaker 3: We had an election on Saturday, and we have a
- 0:44Speaker 3: big one coming up on Tuesday. Let's get into it.
- 0:47Speaker 3: I'm Booker. This is The Truth Be Told. As always
- 0:50Speaker 3: on Monday, we have Matt Palumbo with us. He is
- 0:53Speaker 3: a Newsmax contributor, also on Fox Business from time to time,
- 0:56Speaker 3: a fantastic author of 11 books, and he's always with
- 0:59Speaker 3: us on Monday night. Matt, welcome back for Mondays with Matt.
- 1:03Speaker 4: Good to be back, of course, and get another eventful week.
- 1:07Speaker 3: It was, they all are anymore if you pay attention
- 1:10Speaker 3: to politics, but let's pay attention to this race that
- 1:13Speaker 3: took place on Saturday night, and let's go to this
- 1:16Speaker 3: clip from NBC to hear about it.
- 1:19Speaker 5: NBC News is now declaring that Congresswoman Julia Letlow and
- 1:24Speaker 5: Louisiana State Treasurer John Fleming have both advanced to a runoff.
- 1:29Speaker 5: That runoff will be held on June 27th. Neither getting
- 1:33Speaker 5: a clear outright majority tonight that would have won this
- 1:36Speaker 5: primary on the spot. But significantly what that means. incumbent
- 1:40Speaker 5: two-term Republican Senator Bill Cassidy, who was one of the
- 1:44Speaker 5: few Republican Senate votes in 2021 to vote to convict
- 1:49Speaker 5: Donald Trump in his second impeachment trial. Bill Cassidy has
- 1:53Speaker 5: been defeated. He has been denied renomination. And in the process,
- 1:57Speaker 5: he becomes the first elected incumbent senator in 14 years
- 2:02Speaker 5: to be denied renomination by his party.
- 2:05Speaker 3: I think that's a big story over the weekend that
- 2:08Speaker 3: for the first time in 14 years, he didn't even
- 2:11Speaker 3: get out of the primary. What does that say about
- 2:13Speaker 3: Donald Trump's power within the party or within the base
- 2:16Speaker 3: to come out and have Bill Cassidy come in third place?
- 2:20Speaker 3: There will be a runoff, as he mentioned in June. Letlow,
- 2:23Speaker 3: a congressman from Louisiana, had about 47 percent of the vote,
- 2:27Speaker 3: while the second place treasurer there for the state of Louisiana.
- 2:31Speaker 3: He was just above Cassidy with about 25, 26 percent.
- 2:34Speaker 3: So it looks like Letlow will eventually win the nomination
- 2:38Speaker 3: for the Republicans and go on to the general election
- 2:41Speaker 3: in November. But what are your thoughts there about Cassidy
- 2:44Speaker 3: and the power still of Donald Trump?
- 2:47Speaker 4: I mean, it's historic both because it was, as he said,
- 2:49Speaker 4: and I was really hoping I could drop this stat because,
- 2:52Speaker 4: you know, I was reading this story ahead of time.
- 2:54Speaker 4: It was the first in 14 years. But it's, you know,
- 2:57Speaker 4: it's more impressive than that in that, you know, as
- 2:59Speaker 4: you were just saying as well, Cassidy got less than
- 3:02Speaker 4: 25 percent of the vote. So, you know, in the
- 3:05Speaker 4: past when senators have been primary, it was impressive. It's
- 3:08Speaker 4: obviously a heck of a lot closer than that kind
- 3:10Speaker 4: of blowout. Letlow only needs to bring over about 5%
- 3:13Speaker 4: of the vote to win from Cassidy's people if they
- 3:16Speaker 4: even turn out in the next round. The second round
- 3:20Speaker 4: in really any primary tends to see a pretty significant
- 3:22Speaker 4: drop off in turnout. So I don't think it'll really
- 3:25Speaker 4: be a problem for Letlow. And yes, this was the
- 3:28Speaker 4: second reminder in the past few weeks we've seen of
- 3:30Speaker 4: Trump's influence in the party in Indiana. I remember when
- 3:35Speaker 4: we reported on it, I kept saying Illinois for some reason.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the last one.
- 3:38Speaker 4: That was last week. And then I did it on
- 3:40Speaker 4: another show after this.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Good job, man.
- 3:41Speaker 4: But I don't know what was wrong with me that day.
- 3:43Speaker 4: But in Indiana, there was also Senate primaries. And all
- 3:47Speaker 4: of the Senate, or not all of them, many senators
- 3:50Speaker 4: that were being primaried had voted against redistricting in the state.
- 3:56Speaker 4: The Mike Pence principles for a faction of the party.
- 4:00Speaker 4: The principles basically being to let the left walk all
- 4:03Speaker 4: over you as long as we can say we're superior
- 4:05Speaker 4: or morally righteous or whatever. But But they basically all
- 4:09Speaker 4: actually all but one got primary out of office. And
- 4:13Speaker 4: the effect was so strong that there was actually one
- 4:16Speaker 4: Republican up for reelection who did not vote or who
- 4:21Speaker 4: did vote to redistrict. But I guess just kind of
- 4:24Speaker 4: got caught up in the story and almost lost. But
- 4:26Speaker 4: there was enough people who who correctly identified her as
- 4:29Speaker 4: being someone who voted for redistricting and did keep her seat.
- 4:32Speaker 4: But it was a close vote. So it did show
- 4:35Speaker 4: the knives wore out in that election. And yes, listen,
- 4:39Speaker 4: it is Trump's party now. The Republican Party, we're in
- 4:42Speaker 4: a two-party system in this country, but the identity of
- 4:45Speaker 4: the party has shifted drastically in that if we were
- 4:49Speaker 4: a European country where there's five major competing parties and
- 4:53Speaker 4: they're constantly splitting and re-merging and new ones are popping up,
- 4:57Speaker 4: the Trump Party probably would be a different party from
- 5:02Speaker 4: the Republican Party. And it would have a lot of
- 5:04Speaker 4: overlap with fiscal conservatism of the prior GOP. But the
- 5:09Speaker 4: identity of the Trump Republican Party is... I mean, there's
- 5:12Speaker 4: obviously no comparison to the Bush type Republicans and McCain Republicans.
- 5:17Speaker 4: You know, it's the party has shifted so much. We
- 5:20Speaker 4: don't even consider them to be Republicans anymore.
- 5:22Speaker 3: And if you look at if you look at this
- 5:24Speaker 3: race in Kentucky, too, that's taking place on Tuesday with
- 5:27Speaker 3: Massey and Galvin, that is a whole different animal when
- 5:31Speaker 3: it comes to Republicans and. the people that are supporting
- 5:35Speaker 3: Thomas Massey from outside Kentucky 4, which we're going to
- 5:38Speaker 3: get to that race here in a few minutes. Before
- 5:40Speaker 3: we do, though, let's go to this clip with Jason
- 5:44Speaker 3: Chavis having a conversation with Senator Cassidy before the polls
- 5:48Speaker 3: closed on Saturday. Here, let's listen to this together.
- 5:53Speaker 6: In the Congress for a little while. But my question
- 5:57Speaker 6: for you is still about Donald Trump. I mean, knowing
- 5:59Speaker 6: what you know now about the farce that was put
- 6:02Speaker 6: forward to the American people and the Congress, knowing what
- 6:05Speaker 6: you know now, would you still vote to actually convict
- 6:10Speaker 6: Donald Trump of the charges that he was put up for?
- 6:15Speaker 7: Reporters always love to ask that question.
- 6:18Speaker 4: I'm a doctor.
- 6:18Speaker 8: You give me all the information I can.
- 6:20Speaker 3: I make a decision.
- 6:21Speaker 9: I move on.
- 6:22Speaker 3: I don't keep on going back.
- 6:23Speaker 4: Oh, what happened five years ago?
- 6:25Speaker 7: I'm thinking about what's going to happen five years from
- 6:28Speaker 7: now or tonight.
- 6:29Speaker 10: Hang on, Jason.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Let me finish.
- 6:30Speaker 11: Let me finish, Jason.
- 6:32Speaker 6: You just touted everything you've done for the last five years.
- 6:35Speaker 6: Why can't you answer that question? Did you or did
- 6:38Speaker 6: you not? I want you to answer that question. Would
- 6:43Speaker 6: you or would you not actually vote to convict knowing
- 6:47Speaker 6: what you know now? It's a simple question.
- 6:49Speaker 7: Yeah, Jason, you may go back and flagellate yourself over
- 6:52Speaker 7: decisions in the past.
- 6:53Speaker 4: I do not.
- 6:53Speaker 3: I move on.
- 6:54Speaker 7: By the way, what I'm talking about is not just
- 6:58Speaker 7: the present.
- 6:59Speaker 4: It is the future.
- 7:00Speaker 3: By the way, the future.
- 7:01Speaker 7: Also includes that if somebody wants somebody working for the
- 7:04Speaker 7: state of Louisiana, for the future not fixated on the past,
- 7:08Speaker 7: then polls close at 8 o'clock tonight.
- 7:10Speaker 3: Get out there and vote. And the people of Louisiana
- 7:13Speaker 3: clearly voiced their opinion to get rid of Senator Cassidy.
- 7:18Speaker 3: I found that clip really interesting in that, you know,
- 7:22Speaker 3: all these years later, he still cannot admit after all
- 7:26Speaker 3: of the hearings that the Russian hoax was a hoax,
- 7:29Speaker 3: that the perfect phone call to Ukraine that got Trump impeached,
- 7:34Speaker 3: that none of that was reality. He cannot do that.
- 7:38Speaker 3: And that's why he lost. That's why he got 24%
- 7:40Speaker 3: of the vote after being an incumbent for 12 years.
- 7:44Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, he wouldn't answer the question because his
- 7:48Speaker 4: answer is no, which I guess it's kind of a
- 7:51Speaker 4: redeeming quality that he wouldn't, you know, be lying. But
- 7:56Speaker 4: it also is still the wrong answer because he's still
- 7:59Speaker 4: siding with a hoax. And the doctor analogy was so bizarre.
- 8:03Speaker 4: If you and I were doctors and– We diagnosed a
- 8:06Speaker 4: patient five years ago, and then all this evidence came
- 8:10Speaker 4: out that it was fatally wrong. You better hope we
- 8:13Speaker 4: then revise and go, oh, my God, knowing we know now,
- 8:16Speaker 4: absolutely we should change the diagnosis. So it seems like, no,
- 8:20Speaker 4: he doesn't actually think that– Anything should change and good
- 8:23Speaker 4: riddance to him. Hopefully there's a chilling effect to other Republicans.
- 8:27Speaker 4: I think we haven't said this yet, that there was
- 8:31Speaker 4: 16 Republicans in the House and Senate combined that had
- 8:34Speaker 4: voted in one of the two hoax impeachments to impeach,
- 8:38Speaker 4: to indict Donald Trump or to convict rather. Was it
- 8:42Speaker 4: 14 of them are gone in the Senate? It's only
- 8:45Speaker 4: Collins and Murkowski remain. I can't remember the two in
- 8:47Speaker 4: the House, but basically they're almost all gone.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Yeah, good thing. And I think it also shows that
- 8:52Speaker 3: the base for Donald Trump, they have a memory like
- 8:55Speaker 3: an elephant. They are not forgetting things that people did
- 8:59Speaker 3: in Congress to go against Donald Trump. And Thomas Massey
- 9:02Speaker 3: is another one of those that we will get to.
- 9:05Speaker 3: But before we do, let's go to some losing speech
- 9:08Speaker 3: comments that Senator Cassidy gave.
- 9:11Speaker 8: This was not the result that I necessarily wanted, but
- 9:14Speaker 8: I feel great.
- 9:15Speaker 4: When you participate in.
- 9:16Speaker 8: Democracy, sometimes it doesn't turn out the way you want
- 9:19Speaker 8: it to. But you don't pout.
- 9:22Speaker 4: You don't whine.
- 9:23Speaker 8: You don't claim the election was stolen. You don't find
- 9:27Speaker 8: a reason why. You don't manufacture some excuse. You thank
- 9:34Speaker 8: the voters for the privilege of representing the state or
- 9:37Speaker 8: the country for as long as you've.
- 9:39Speaker 4: Had that privilege.
- 9:40Speaker 3: He's oblivious to everything that has come out in hearings
- 9:43Speaker 3: right there where he works over the last five years.
- 9:47Speaker 3: And I don't think he's alone in the Senate. I
- 9:49Speaker 3: think a lot of guys in the Senate and women,
- 9:52Speaker 3: they are oblivious to all of the evidence that has
- 9:56Speaker 3: come out over the last five years about the election
- 9:58Speaker 3: in 2020. And they should at least be asking the questions.
- 10:02Speaker 3: It seems like people like Senator Ron Johnson are really
- 10:05Speaker 3: the only ones in the Senate that are asking the
- 10:08Speaker 3: real questions about things that happened in 2020.
- 10:10Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree entirely. And even if the fraud evidence
- 10:16Speaker 4: isn't enough to overturn the election, you know, even if it's.
- 10:20Speaker 4: It's a way smaller scale than we thought. It's still
- 10:23Speaker 4: stuff we need to know to prepare against in the future.
- 10:27Speaker 4: If you were an illegal alien in this country, there
- 10:31Speaker 4: are a lot of states where– in fact, most blue states,
- 10:34Speaker 4: you can get a driver's license as an illegal alien–
- 10:37Speaker 4: And many of these states automatically register you to vote
- 10:41Speaker 4: when you get a license. So what do you think happens?
- 10:44Speaker 4: And in fact, like when you register to vote, if
- 10:46Speaker 4: you if you are and I know this for a
- 10:49Speaker 4: fact has happened. I am actually referencing actual cases. If
- 10:52Speaker 4: you were an illegal alien on an American college campus
- 10:55Speaker 4: and you see a register to vote booth. and you
- 10:58Speaker 4: write down your name and apartment or wherever you're saying,
- 11:01Speaker 4: you will be registered to vote and you can go
- 11:04Speaker 4: to an election and vote. And there's no cross-referencing anywhere
- 11:08Speaker 4: to check that you're actually a citizen. So, you know,
- 11:11Speaker 4: I used to think that illegals, you know, if they
- 11:13Speaker 4: were going to be mobilized to vote There would have
- 11:15Speaker 4: to be a theft of identities and the legals have
- 11:18Speaker 4: to impersonate them and try to pretend they're them. That's
- 11:21Speaker 4: not the case at all. You can just it's so
- 11:23Speaker 4: easy to register to vote and fraud. And I don't
- 11:25Speaker 4: know which type of voter fraud will be exposed when
- 11:30Speaker 4: more evidence comes out. But we want to know every
- 11:32Speaker 4: single detail we can. And mocking election integrity after losing
- 11:37Speaker 4: is a bizarre thing.
- 11:38Speaker 3: Yeah, if we don't know the truth.
- 11:39Speaker 4: It would have been hilarious if he tongue in cheek
- 11:41Speaker 4: claimed the election was stolen. I would have given him that.
- 11:43Speaker 3: If we don't know the truth about what happened, we
- 11:45Speaker 3: can't fix what was wrong. And you dealt with the
- 11:50Speaker 3: illegal immigration side of it. What about the drop boxes
- 11:53Speaker 3: that we had in cities, in blue cities, where we
- 11:56Speaker 3: know that people dropped off hundreds and hundreds of ballots,
- 12:00Speaker 3: and we don't know who they were. We have evidence
- 12:02Speaker 3: in Atlanta of all these pristine ballots that were all
- 12:06Speaker 3: for Joe Biden. And we had at 2 a.m. a big,
- 12:09Speaker 3: bunch of Joe Biden votes come in and Donald Trump
- 12:13Speaker 3: went the other way. So we have questions. We should
- 12:16Speaker 3: ask those questions. And people like Senator Cassidy, who are
- 12:19Speaker 3: still oblivious to it, are not helping anything when it
- 12:22Speaker 3: comes to election integrity. Let's go to this race that's
- 12:25Speaker 3: happening Tuesday in Kentucky, Kentucky 4. Ed Galran is the
- 12:30Speaker 3: candidate that Donald Trump has endorsed. He's trying to get
- 12:33Speaker 3: rid of Thomas Massey, the libertarian there in Kentucky. He's
- 12:37Speaker 3: been there for 14 years, since 2012. He won a
- 12:40Speaker 3: special election and then won the regular election in 2012.
- 12:45Speaker 3: Here is Donald Trump on Thomas Massey. We've got to
- 12:47Speaker 3: get rid of this loser. This guy is bad.
- 12:50Speaker 12: He's disloyal to the Republican Party. He's disloyal to the
- 12:55Speaker 12: people of Kentucky. And most importantly, he is disloyal to
- 12:59Speaker 12: the United States of America.
- 13:02Speaker 3: And he's got to be.
- 13:03Speaker 10: Voted out of office as soon as possible.
- 13:06Speaker 3: And as soon as possible is Tuesday. And it's going
- 13:08Speaker 3: to be an interesting to watch. If you pay attention
- 13:11Speaker 3: to the polling early April. The Quantum Insights poll had
- 13:15Speaker 3: Thomas Massey winning by seven or eight points. And then
- 13:19Speaker 3: as early May, the Quantum Insights, the same poll, it
- 13:22Speaker 3: came out with a larger sampling. I think the one
- 13:25Speaker 3: in early April was about 407. The one in early
- 13:27Speaker 3: May was about 900, a little over 900. So it
- 13:29Speaker 3: was a bigger sampling size. And now it has Galvin
- 13:35Speaker 3: ahead by 8%, which is a huge flip. And I
- 13:39Speaker 3: don't know that I trust that. I don't trust it.
- 13:42Speaker 3: I'll say that. And then you have the predictive markets
- 13:46Speaker 3: also are now showing Galvin will win. I think it's
- 13:49Speaker 3: 55-45 as of Sunday.
- 13:50Speaker 13: Yep.
- 13:52Speaker 4: That's what I got in front of me, which I
- 13:53Speaker 4: was looking at. And the thing is, if the poll
- 13:55Speaker 4: with with Gauvin had eight was accurate, the betting odds
- 13:59Speaker 4: would be like 90, 10 in his favor. So the
- 14:02Speaker 4: market doesn't seem to buy that poll. And I will
- 14:04Speaker 4: say that state level polls. The margin of error is
- 14:08Speaker 4: often like 5% to 10% in that Susan Collins tends
- 14:13Speaker 4: to win her elections in an absolute blowout. In her
- 14:17Speaker 4: most recent election, I think Quinnipiac had her losing by
- 14:20Speaker 4: something comical like 10 points, and then she won by
- 14:23Speaker 4: a blowout. For whatever reason, the state-level polling, maybe it's
- 14:26Speaker 4: just the sample isn't big enough. It just doesn't seem
- 14:29Speaker 4: to work that well, among many other issues with polling. But, yeah,
- 14:34Speaker 4: it seems to be about a coin flip right now.
- 14:36Speaker 4: And Nasty is someone who I think wins his elections
- 14:39Speaker 4: by 70. Huge, yeah.
- 14:40Speaker 3: Gets 70-plus percent of the vote.
- 14:41Speaker 4: Right, 35 points, 40 points he usually wins. He's never
- 14:43Speaker 4: been pressured. Where he is is a Republican area, but
- 14:51Speaker 4: it does show he is incredibly popular there, or at
- 14:54Speaker 4: least was. So I think this will be the biggest
- 14:56Speaker 4: test of Trump's power, and it seems to be working
- 15:00Speaker 4: so far.
- 15:01Speaker 3: It is a litmus test, I think, for Donald Trump
- 15:04Speaker 3: in this race. It's going to be one to watch
- 15:06Speaker 3: for sure, but the thing that I'm seeing on social
- 15:08Speaker 3: media that is very uncomfortable to me is the people, influencers,
- 15:13Speaker 3: that are supporting Thomas Massie And if you say anything
- 15:16Speaker 3: against Thomas Massey, these people, to me, are anti-Semitic, and
- 15:20Speaker 3: they are coming at you because they believe that the
- 15:23Speaker 3: Jewish people, AIPAC, completely control America, which is nuts to
- 15:28Speaker 3: me that they believe that. And to me, it shows
- 15:30Speaker 3: that the influence of Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, and others
- 15:34Speaker 3: has worked effectively on a large group of people in America.
- 15:38Speaker 3: These people are not people that live in Kentucky for.
- 15:40Speaker 3: They live all over the country. They are libertarians and loudmouths.
- 15:45Speaker 3: And they go after people really hard on social media
- 15:48Speaker 3: over Thomas Massey. And when you look at Thomas Massey's record,
- 15:52Speaker 3: there isn't much there to see. And I wrote an
- 15:55Speaker 3: article on this, Matt. I don't know if you read it.
- 15:57Speaker 3: It's been out a couple of weeks ago. It's still
- 15:59Speaker 3: going around, but basically Thomas Massey passed one piece of
- 16:03Speaker 3: legislation for the people of Kentucky for, that was 12
- 16:07Speaker 3: years ago in 2014. It had to do with the
- 16:10Speaker 3: Ohio River and 276 miles along the Ohio River, which
- 16:14Speaker 3: happens to be where his district is. Since then, he
- 16:16Speaker 3: has passed nothing with his name on it to help
- 16:19Speaker 3: his constituency. What he has done is found out in
- 16:24Speaker 3: 2020 by doing what he did to bring everybody back
- 16:27Speaker 3: to vote for the CARES Act, have them vote in
- 16:31Speaker 3: person instead of by proxy and by voice over the phone,
- 16:35Speaker 3: is that it worked in raising a lot of money.
- 16:37Speaker 3: If you look at his fundraising, his fundraising since then
- 16:40Speaker 3: has gone through the roof and continues, and they are
- 16:44Speaker 3: still trying to raise money as of Sunday afternoon for
- 16:47Speaker 3: this race that is Tuesday. This money is not for Tuesday.
- 16:50Speaker 3: You can't spend it in a day. It can't be spent.
- 16:53Speaker 3: So it's for something else. Either Thomas Massey loses the race,
- 16:57Speaker 3: he keeps the money, creates a pack, And he lives
- 16:59Speaker 3: off that for years as expenses, or he will save
- 17:03Speaker 3: it for the general election, which in reality he's not
- 17:06Speaker 3: going to need because it's never a race anyway. As
- 17:08Speaker 3: you were saying, it's a 30, 40 point race. So
- 17:11Speaker 3: he's still trying to fundraise off this grift to me
- 17:15Speaker 3: is what it is because he has a popularity among
- 17:20Speaker 3: libertarians across the country. but not for his constituency in
- 17:23Speaker 3: Kentucky 4. That's the way I see this.
- 17:26Speaker 4: Yeah. You were saying, too, that if you criticize Massey,
- 17:30Speaker 4: his supporters, at least on social media, will claim that
- 17:35Speaker 4: his opponent's money is from Israel. I was Googling as
- 17:37Speaker 4: you said that. Massey's largest donor is a pro-Israel Jewish
- 17:41Speaker 4: billionaire named Jeff Yoss. So he obviously is also taking
- 17:46Speaker 4: money from Jewish... That's not... um really a component of
- 17:50Speaker 4: the race at all they're both taking money from uh
- 17:53Speaker 4: those people so his you know anyone making those claims
- 17:55Speaker 4: should know that about as for the amount of money
- 17:59Speaker 4: um yes you can use these packs as a slush
- 18:02Speaker 4: fund in fact i think it was mary palotta who
- 18:04Speaker 4: was a rep in alaska i think she beat sarah
- 18:07Speaker 4: palin and then lost after that um had announced she
- 18:11Speaker 4: was going to run for senate spent a bunch of
- 18:14Speaker 4: campaign funds she had that never actually ran for Senate,
- 18:18Speaker 4: but just the announcement enabled her to spend all the money.
- 18:21Speaker 3: Well, Adam Kinzinger in Illinois is a great example. He
- 18:26Speaker 3: announced that he was retiring from the House. He joined
- 18:30Speaker 3: the J6 committee, and he raised three times the amount
- 18:33Speaker 3: of money that he had ever raised in an election
- 18:35Speaker 3: cycle when he announced that he was retiring. And that
- 18:38Speaker 3: was only because he was on that J6 committee. So
- 18:41Speaker 3: something needs to be fixed there about what former politicians
- 18:44Speaker 3: can do with that money when they go out of office,
- 18:47Speaker 3: or we're going to continue to see things like this.
- 18:50Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting to watch. Here's what I think, Matt.
- 18:52Speaker 3: I think that Thomas Massey will actually win this race
- 18:56Speaker 3: in Kentucky 4, and I think he's going to do
- 18:58Speaker 3: it a little bit more than people think. I don't
- 19:01Speaker 3: think it's going to be as close. That's my gut
- 19:03Speaker 3: feeling on this from everything that I'm seeing, that I
- 19:06Speaker 3: believe that Massey is going to be safe, and he
- 19:08Speaker 3: will continue to be the obstructionist that he has become.
- 19:12Speaker 3: He has won versus 434 in the House of Representatives,
- 19:16Speaker 3: and unfortunately, it doesn't do anything as You try to
- 19:21Speaker 3: progress the Trump agenda. That's the way I see it.
- 19:24Speaker 3: It's going to be close. Nobody really knows. I don't
- 19:26Speaker 3: even know, but that's the way I predict it. Matt,
- 19:28Speaker 3: do you want to add anything to that?
- 19:30Speaker 4: I'll just be a contrarian and say he'll lose.
- 19:33Speaker 3: Well, that's fine. We can have something to talk about
- 19:35Speaker 3: next week. Yeah, we'll have something to talk about next week. Yeah,
- 19:40Speaker 3: you like Spencer Pratt. Yeah, I went against him as
- 19:43Speaker 3: well in Los Angeles.
- 19:44Speaker 4: I mean, it's a one in four chance if the
- 19:47Speaker 4: odds are to be believed, but it's still not, you know,
- 19:49Speaker 4: it's bad, but not terrible.
- 19:51Speaker 3: Donald Trump went to China. We're going to talk about
- 19:53Speaker 3: that next.
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- 21:07Speaker 3: to The Truth Be Told here on a Monday night,
- 21:10Speaker 3: visiting with Matt Palumbo, as we always do. Matt, you
- 21:14Speaker 3: told me before we started the show tonight that your daughter,
- 21:18Speaker 3: by the way, is coming up on one in November.
- 21:20Speaker 3: So what is she, nine months now? Six months. Six months. Okay,
- 21:25Speaker 3: my math is terrible. She has started crawling. Congratulations.
- 21:31Speaker 4: Backwards only, though.
- 21:32Speaker 3: Backwards only.
- 21:33Speaker 4: So I don't know if that means she's halfway there
- 21:35Speaker 4: or is 100% in the wrong direction.
- 21:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it means you're going to have your
- 21:39Speaker 3: hands full is what that means. Yeah, I would take
- 21:42Speaker 3: that as an omen if that's the case. Okay, Donald
- 21:44Speaker 3: Trump goes to China. What do you make of the
- 21:47Speaker 3: trip to China?
- 21:49Speaker 4: One of the things where I learned that it was
- 21:50Speaker 4: happening on this show with you and then proceeded to
- 21:53Speaker 4: not watching because I was too busy with my daughter.
- 21:56Speaker 3: Watching her walk backwards. You were watching her walk backwards
- 22:00Speaker 3: is what you were doing. Crawl backwards. I'm sorry.
- 22:04Speaker 4: As the country was hopefully moving forward.
- 22:06Speaker 3: I think this trip, you know, I think it was
- 22:09Speaker 3: about semiconductors. I think it mainly was about artificial intelligence
- 22:13Speaker 3: and that 21st century arms race. I believe that's what
- 22:17Speaker 3: it was. And, you know, maybe there were more things.
- 22:20Speaker 3: I know that Trump is trying to put some pressure
- 22:23Speaker 3: on Xi to put pressure on Iran so that he
- 22:25Speaker 3: can end that because that also needs to come to
- 22:28Speaker 3: an end. But, you know, there were some things that
- 22:31Speaker 3: have some of the base of Trump upset coming back
- 22:34Speaker 3: from that meeting and conversations with Brett Baier and also
- 22:38Speaker 3: on Hannity when it comes to 500,000 students in America
- 22:42Speaker 3: from China. I don't know that his answer there was.
- 22:46Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't like that answer.
- 22:47Speaker 3: Although, Let's listen to the clip and then we can
- 22:50Speaker 3: talk about it. In case somebody missed it like you,
- 22:53Speaker 3: then let's listen to it.
- 22:54Speaker 4: I did see that one clip.
- 22:57Speaker 3: Here it is.
- 22:58Speaker 10: I would assume I'm in Beijing if I wanted to
- 23:01Speaker 10: buy property near one of their military installations. I don't
- 23:06Speaker 10: think President Xi... It's not that I love it. You
- 23:10Speaker 10: want to see farm prices drop? You want to see
- 23:12Speaker 10: farmers lose a lot of money? Just take that out
- 23:14Speaker 10: of the market. But they've... Had a lot of land
- 23:19Speaker 10: for a long time. Obama did nothing about it. They
- 23:23Speaker 10: bought a lot of it during the Obama administration. He
- 23:26Speaker 10: did nothing about it. As far as the students, it's 500,000
- 23:30Speaker 10: students they come, good students. I could tell them I
- 23:38Speaker 10: don't want any students. It's a very insulting thing to
- 23:42Speaker 10: say to a country.
- 23:44Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with insulting our number one adversary.
- 23:47Speaker 3: Do you, Matt?
- 23:48Speaker 4: No, and there are a ton of colleges in this
- 23:52Speaker 4: country where between 30% and 50% of the population of
- 23:56Speaker 4: them is foreign-born, meaning if we didn't have international students,
- 24:00Speaker 4: these de facto indoctrination factories would completely collapse. We probably
- 24:05Speaker 4: have way more colleges than we need. And part of
- 24:08Speaker 4: the reason they can charge what they charge, and Trump
- 24:10Speaker 4: has actually fixed this by capping how much money you
- 24:13Speaker 4: can borrow, at least in part. But a large part
- 24:16Speaker 4: of the reason it's so expensive is because there is
- 24:18Speaker 4: endless demand for it. So yeah, if you reduce the demand,
- 24:21Speaker 4: you can reduce the price as well. I think there
- 24:23Speaker 4: should be fewer colleges. They should maybe merge or consolidate
- 24:26Speaker 4: or whatever. When it comes to Trump, though, talking about
- 24:30Speaker 4: the 500,000 Chinese college students, He actually has drastically already
- 24:37Speaker 4: reduced the number of foreign students coming. So I think
- 24:41Speaker 4: he's sort of balancing rhetoric and policy where he's trying to,
- 24:47Speaker 4: I don't know, appease China in making a statement like that.
- 24:51Speaker 4: But the actual reality is, and I don't know if
- 24:54Speaker 4: the numbers I've seen are for all foreign students, they
- 24:57Speaker 4: are down significantly. Trump has also done this with illegal
- 25:01Speaker 4: immigration and that the administration has publicly pushed a narrative
- 25:06Speaker 4: that they're going after criminal illegal aliens first. And I mean,
- 25:10Speaker 4: every illegal aliens are criminal, but by criminal, they mean,
- 25:13Speaker 4: you know, people who've committed offenses and presumably violent offenses
- 25:17Speaker 4: in addition to being here illegally. And I think they're
- 25:21Speaker 4: pushing that narrative because it's just what, you know, that has,
- 25:25Speaker 4: you know, 90, whatever percent approval. No one disagrees with that,
- 25:29Speaker 4: even though we get rid of all the legals. But
- 25:31Speaker 4: in actual practice, they're just supporting anyone they can, which
- 25:34Speaker 4: is obviously what we want. But it's another case where
- 25:38Speaker 4: there's a public perception versus what's actually happening thing where
- 25:43Speaker 4: they're trying to balance both, where the right thing to
- 25:45Speaker 4: do is, I would say, no foreign college students. The
- 25:48Speaker 4: popular thing is that, in this case with China, is
- 25:51Speaker 4: to say you're letting them in. And with illegal immigration,
- 25:54Speaker 4: everyone's for– even most Democrats are for getting rid of
- 25:57Speaker 4: ones that have committed other crimes But in reality, we
- 25:59Speaker 4: need all of them gone, and that's what they're doing.
- 26:01Speaker 3: Hannity started that questioning off with land being bought by
- 26:06Speaker 3: Chinese here in America. And I think Trump sort of
- 26:10Speaker 3: brushed that off. But in reality, when you look at it,
- 26:13Speaker 3: Canada owns more land in America than anyone else at 15.4
- 26:17Speaker 3: million acres. China is way down that list. The problem
- 26:21Speaker 3: I have with the land that China owns, and it's
- 26:24Speaker 3: not China, the government, it's companies and individuals that own
- 26:28Speaker 3: property in America, is where that land is, which it
- 26:31Speaker 3: happens to be really close to military bases. Let's go
- 26:34Speaker 3: on with this clip here from Donald Trump, because I
- 26:37Speaker 3: think he's going to get into a little bit about
- 26:38Speaker 3: what you were just talking about, schools collapsing if He
- 26:42Speaker 3: did not allow, you know, 500,000 Chinese students in America.
- 26:46Speaker 10: They would then immediately go out and start building universities
- 26:49Speaker 10: all over China. But if you don't have those students,
- 26:52Speaker 10: good students, by the way, if you don't, and we
- 26:55Speaker 10: do another thing, you know, if they're good and they
- 26:57Speaker 10: want to stay in America, we won't give them a
- 26:59Speaker 10: green card and things like that. You know, and not
- 27:02Speaker 10: only them, but other countries. But if you want to
- 27:06Speaker 10: see a university system die, take a half a million
- 27:10Speaker 10: people out of it.
- 27:11Speaker 3: Yeah, well, maybe we should, Matt, to your point. I
- 27:14Speaker 3: don't think that that's a bad thing. I think that
- 27:17Speaker 3: some of these colleges are a hoax at this point.
- 27:20Speaker 3: I don't think that we need as many as we have.
- 27:22Speaker 3: It's become such a huge business. And I just don't know.
- 27:27Speaker 3: Let's go to another clip here of Donald Trump with
- 27:29Speaker 3: Brett Baier. This took place last night.
- 27:32Speaker 10: We talked a whole night about that issue. I think
- 27:35Speaker 10: I know more about Taiwan right now than I know
- 27:37Speaker 10: about almost.
- 27:38Speaker 4: Any country that dominated the.
- 27:41Speaker 3: The talk.
- 27:43Speaker 10: It's always been his most important thing.
- 27:45Speaker 3: The reason why it's the most important thing for Xi,
- 27:48Speaker 3: the reunification with Taiwan, is the semiconductors, which has to
- 27:52Speaker 3: do with artificial intelligence. And again, I believe that's why
- 27:56Speaker 3: Donald Trump went. You know, one thing a lot of
- 27:59Speaker 3: people on the left were doing is they were saying, well,
- 28:01Speaker 3: he's taking all these CEOs, Elon Musk and all these others.
- 28:05Speaker 3: Did you happen to see any of that conversation, Matt?
- 28:08Speaker 4: Yeah, and the reason they took Elon Musk is because
- 28:11Speaker 4: Elon Musk does an enormous amount of business in China,
- 28:14Speaker 4: so it would make sense to bring someone like him.
- 28:16Speaker 4: And I think it was the CEO of NVIDIA he
- 28:18Speaker 4: brought as well, and again, that's the biggest chip company
- 28:21Speaker 4: on the planet, so it makes perfect sense he'd bring them.
- 28:24Speaker 3: Well, he brought a lot of CEOs, and the left
- 28:26Speaker 3: was going nuts about it. They they say that the
- 28:30Speaker 3: CEOs did nothing. They couldn't get anything from China. So
- 28:33Speaker 3: it was a failure. So which one do you want?
- 28:35Speaker 3: Which way do you want it? Him not taking them
- 28:37Speaker 3: or them going and not getting anything. You know, it
- 28:41Speaker 3: just doesn't make any sense. I would say this, that
- 28:43Speaker 3: the last time a president went to China was Donald
- 28:46Speaker 3: Trump in 2017. And he had more CEOs with him then.
- 28:50Speaker 3: than he did on this trip. And nobody seemed to
- 28:52Speaker 3: talk about it then. Let's continue on with this clip
- 28:56Speaker 3: about Taiwan and the chips that Donald Trump was talking
- 28:59Speaker 3: about with Brett Baier.
- 29:01Speaker 10: I've known him now 11 years, 12 years. It's always
- 29:05Speaker 10: been the biggest thing for him, Taiwan. Now, with me,
- 29:08Speaker 10: I don't think they'll do anything when I'm here. When
- 29:11Speaker 10: I'm not here, I think they might, to be honest
- 29:13Speaker 10: with you. I'm not sure that they'd do anything if
- 29:16Speaker 10: it remained as is. But they have somebody there now
- 29:20Speaker 10: that wants to go independent. Well, it's a very risky
- 29:22Speaker 10: thing when you go independent. You know, they're going independent
- 29:25Speaker 10: because they want to get into a war and they
- 29:26Speaker 10: want to. They figure they have the United States behind them.
- 29:30Speaker 10: I'd like to see it stay the way it is.
- 29:32Speaker 10: And I'll tell you something. I'll make a little news.
- 29:35Speaker 10: I'd like to see everybody making chips over in Taiwan
- 29:37Speaker 10: come into America, because to be honest with you, I
- 29:39Speaker 10: think it's the greatest thing you can do. Because it's
- 29:42Speaker 10: a heated situation. There's no question about it. And as
- 29:46Speaker 10: you know, we have massive amounts of chip companies now
- 29:49Speaker 10: from Taiwan already coming in. We expect to have 40
- 29:52Speaker 10: to 50 percent of the world chip business by the
- 29:55Speaker 10: end of my term.
- 29:56Speaker 3: And that is so important. If you go back to
- 29:59Speaker 3: the first trip Donald Trump took as president, he went
- 30:02Speaker 3: to the Middle East. He brought back trillions of dollars,
- 30:05Speaker 3: Saudi Arabia, UAE and others. And that money was for
- 30:08Speaker 3: semiconductors and chips here in America. A lot of it
- 30:11Speaker 3: was probably half of that money of those trillions were
- 30:14Speaker 3: for that reason. Now we have all these data centers
- 30:16Speaker 3: going up and things like that. But if you are
- 30:19Speaker 3: able to create the chips and the semiconductors here in
- 30:22Speaker 3: America for the intelligence explosion that we are at the
- 30:25Speaker 3: dawn of, then you take away China's desire for Taiwan.
- 30:32Speaker 3: which alleviates that problem. So that's another key thing to
- 30:36Speaker 3: this trip, and I really believe it was the reason
- 30:39Speaker 3: for this trip. There were other things along the way,
- 30:42Speaker 3: and I guess that Xi has agreed to buy soybeans
- 30:46Speaker 3: and LNG and oil from America, which would be great
- 30:49Speaker 3: if it ever happens. I would remind everyone again that
- 30:53Speaker 3: it was Xi that agreed to buy more soybeans from
- 30:56Speaker 3: America last year, when there was the tariff and the
- 30:59Speaker 3: trade war going on, he agreed to buy $ 14 billion
- 31:02Speaker 3: worth of soybeans. China actually bought $ 2 billion. So again,
- 31:07Speaker 3: China cheats, lies, and steals. They don't believe anything that
- 31:11Speaker 3: they actually say because it probably won't come to pass.
- 31:15Speaker 3: So that's the way I see this Chinese trip. And
- 31:19Speaker 3: I do have a couple of other clips. Let's go
- 31:21Speaker 3: to ABC. Actually, that's Iran. So let's save Stephanopoulos here
- 31:27Speaker 3: for a few more minutes. And let's go to this
- 31:31Speaker 3: with Bret Baier, another follow-up clip with Bret Baier.
- 31:35Speaker 10: You know, when you look at the odds, China's a very,
- 31:38Speaker 10: very powerful big country. That's a very small island. It's,
- 31:43Speaker 10: think of it, it's 59 miles away, 59 miles. We're 9,500
- 31:49Speaker 10: miles away. That's a little bit of a difficult problem.
- 31:55Speaker 3: This answer sort of bothered me a little bit also.
- 31:58Speaker 3: And again, I don't know if that's one of those
- 32:01Speaker 3: answers that you were talking about that just take some
- 32:03Speaker 3: pressure off of China and Xi, but I don't know
- 32:06Speaker 3: that you want to give up the leverage of defending
- 32:09Speaker 3: Taiwan when you're 59 miles away from China, the big
- 32:13Speaker 3: country with the big military.
- 32:14Speaker 10: With all of that being said, you know, if you
- 32:18Speaker 10: look at the history of Taiwan, Taiwan was developed because
- 32:24Speaker 10: we had presidents that didn't know what the hell they
- 32:25Speaker 10: were doing, because if they would have put tariffs on
- 32:28Speaker 10: chips coming in, they would have never left. Everything was
- 32:30Speaker 10: about intel. And everything was about our chip companies. They
- 32:34Speaker 10: stole our chip industry. So I've said that for years.
- 32:38Speaker 10: I said, you know, for years they stole our chip.
- 32:40Speaker 10: If we would have had one of our presidents just say,
- 32:43Speaker 10: we're going to say, we're going to put 100 percent chip.
- 32:45Speaker 10: You can leave. You can build in Taiwan, but we're
- 32:47Speaker 10: going to you sell it back into the United States.
- 32:49Speaker 10: We're going to put 100 percent or 200 percent tariff.
- 32:52Speaker 10: We would have never lost a chip. We lost the
- 32:54Speaker 10: chip industry. It's all coming back. And I do say this.
- 33:00Speaker 10: Taiwan would be very smart to cool it a little bit.
- 33:05Speaker 10: China would be very smart to cool it a little bit.
- 33:07Speaker 10: They ought to both cool it.
- 33:09Speaker 3: He wants them both to cool it, Matt. And another
- 33:12Speaker 3: part of this trip was about Iran, too. And let's
- 33:14Speaker 3: get to Iran. It looks like this thing is just
- 33:18Speaker 3: not really going anywhere.
- 33:20Speaker 4: Unfortunately, yeah. It seems like we're going to have $ 8
- 33:22Speaker 4: gas pretty soon at this rate.
- 33:24Speaker 3: Yeah, it's $ 4.
- 33:25Speaker 4: 50.
- 33:25Speaker 3: That's going to have an effect on what happens in
- 33:28Speaker 3: the midterm if that doesn't come down. And you and
- 33:30Speaker 3: I have both consistently said this from the beginning of
- 33:33Speaker 3: this conflict, that when it is over and the Strait
- 33:37Speaker 3: of Hormuz is opened up, the gas prices are going
- 33:39Speaker 3: to come down really quick and really low. There's a
- 33:42Speaker 3: lot of oil. From what I understand, Iran is pumping
- 33:45Speaker 3: oil on the ground now, so they're trying to keep
- 33:48Speaker 3: those rigs pumping. They don't want to turn them off
- 33:50Speaker 3: because they may not ever come back on. But let's
- 33:53Speaker 3: listen to this clip here of former Defense Secretary Robert
- 33:57Speaker 3: Gates saying, who was on a Sunday show. He was
- 33:59Speaker 3: on CBS with Margaret Brennan.
- 34:02Speaker 14: The last time we spoke, last spring, we were just
- 34:05Speaker 14: weeks away from that U.S.-Israeli strike on the three nuclear
- 34:10Speaker 14: sites in Iran. You said at that time, it was May,
- 34:15Speaker 14: when you were defense secretary, you were concerned that a
- 34:17Speaker 14: strike on the nuclear program would just buy time, a
- 34:21Speaker 14: year or two, but it would not solve the problem.
- 34:24Speaker 14: Do you still believe that?
- 34:26Speaker 15: I think the only way that we are likely to
- 34:29Speaker 15: get the enriched uranium out of Iran and bring about
- 34:36Speaker 15: an end to their nuclear aspirations is through a negotiation.
- 34:42Speaker 14: Is it possible for the president of the United States
- 34:45Speaker 14: to walk away and leave this for the Israelis to settle?
- 34:50Speaker 15: No, I don't think he can walk away. And no,
- 34:53Speaker 15: I don't think the Israelis can settle it. I don't
- 34:57Speaker 15: think as powerful as they are, they don't have the
- 35:00Speaker 15: kind of power the United States has. And I think
- 35:04Speaker 15: the president seems to have been very consistent and very
- 35:07Speaker 15: clear that under no circumstances can Iran ever have a
- 35:11Speaker 15: nuclear bomb. Well, the only way you get to that
- 35:14Speaker 15: objective is resolving this issue of the enriched uranium and
- 35:20Speaker 15: any future plans for enrichment.
- 35:25Speaker 3: You know, Matt, a lot of people have different ideas
- 35:28Speaker 3: about former Defense Secretary Robert Gates. But if you listen
- 35:31Speaker 3: to him, he sounds like he is on board with
- 35:34Speaker 3: what Trump has done. The decision has been made. He's
- 35:37Speaker 3: gone in there. We have done what we have done.
- 35:40Speaker 3: And he's saying we have to finish it. And I
- 35:42Speaker 3: have a little bit more from him in that same interview.
- 35:45Speaker 3: But what are your thoughts there on Robert Gates and
- 35:49Speaker 3: his comments to Margaret Brennan?
- 35:51Speaker 4: Well, he's right that we have to finish it. If
- 35:53Speaker 4: we were to half-ass it or outsource it to Israel
- 35:56Speaker 4: or some other country, it shows an enormous amount of
- 36:00Speaker 4: weakness on our part, and it makes everything Trump did
- 36:02Speaker 4: look like a bluff. So there is no choice but
- 36:05Speaker 4: to continue.
- 36:06Speaker 3: Well, let's let him finish up, because he talks about...
- 36:09Speaker 3: the good things that Donald Trump and this mission has accomplished.
- 36:13Speaker 3: And he thinks that what Donald Trump has said from
- 36:15Speaker 3: the very beginning was very clear, contrary to what Margaret
- 36:20Speaker 3: Brennan and the left want you to believe about Iran
- 36:23Speaker 3: and Donald Trump and his administration. Listen to former Defense
- 36:26Speaker 3: Secretary Robert Gates here.
- 36:28Speaker 14: It's a big enough problem that was clearly not going
- 36:30Speaker 14: to be settled in four to six weeks, which was
- 36:32Speaker 14: the timestamp that the American people were told to expect
- 36:35Speaker 14: in terms of the duration of conflict.
- 36:37Speaker 15: I think that there were some unrealistic expectations.
- 36:41Speaker 14: Have you heard a clearly articulated sort of center of
- 36:44Speaker 14: gravity of this operation, an end goal, a strategy?
- 36:49Speaker 15: Well, I think some of the justifications have changed over time.
- 36:52Speaker 15: But one thing, I think there have been a few
- 36:54Speaker 15: things that have been consistent from the very beginning.
- 36:57Speaker 13: One is.
- 36:59Speaker 15: To eliminate Iran's ability to have a nuclear weapon. Another
- 37:04Speaker 15: is to eliminate their military capabilities to attack their neighbors.
- 37:12Speaker 15: The third is to eliminate the capability to support their surrogates,
- 37:16Speaker 15: the Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, to sink their navy. I think
- 37:24Speaker 15: those have all been articulated as objectives of this operation.
- 37:28Speaker 15: And although the nuclear program has been dramatically damaged and
- 37:34Speaker 15: set back a long time, I think those other things,
- 37:38Speaker 15: a lot has been accomplished.
- 37:40Speaker 3: I think I agree with him on everything that he said.
- 37:43Speaker 3: I see it the way that he does. I think
- 37:44Speaker 3: that the mission has been pretty clearly stated. No nuclear weapons.
- 37:49Speaker 3: We want to do some damage to what they could
- 37:51Speaker 3: do to the other Arab nations, including Israel. And they
- 37:55Speaker 3: have done that. They sunk the Navy. Those things have
- 37:58Speaker 3: been done. And I think Robert Gates is right on
- 38:00Speaker 3: track there with what he just said.
- 38:02Speaker 4: I mean, there's no denying we've made enormous amount of progress.
- 38:05Speaker 4: I mean, the unfortunate reality for Trump is that we
- 38:08Speaker 4: can't show people what the counterfactual is. We can't show
- 38:14Speaker 4: them from the perspective of God, turn back the clock
- 38:17Speaker 4: and say, OK, here's what the world would look like
- 38:20Speaker 4: if Trump didn't do this. And guess what? 20 years
- 38:22Speaker 4: from now, they launch a nuclear weapon and hundreds of
- 38:25Speaker 4: thousands of people die. The thing is, when you prevent
- 38:29Speaker 4: a tragedy down the road, No one knows you prevented
- 38:32Speaker 4: a tragedy. So from the perspective of voters, it's just
- 38:34Speaker 4: high gas prices and chaos. You don't get to see
- 38:37Speaker 4: the counterfactual, and that's unfortunate.
- 38:39Speaker 3: I want to go to a report that the New
- 38:41Speaker 3: York Times put out, and it is being repeated in
- 38:44Speaker 3: other publications now. They said that intelligence findings from early
- 38:48Speaker 3: May show Iran... has regained operational access to most of
- 38:53Speaker 3: its missile sites, including 30 of the 33 missile sites
- 38:57Speaker 3: along the Strait of Hormuz, citing people familiar with the assessments.
- 39:02Speaker 3: The newspaper said Iran still possesses roughly 70% of its
- 39:06Speaker 3: pre-war missile stockpile and mobile launchers. And I don't know
- 39:10Speaker 3: how in the world... That's even possible. So consider the
- 39:13Speaker 3: source there in the New York Times. Watch for that
- 39:16Speaker 3: narrative to come from the mainstream media. But know that
- 39:19Speaker 3: Robert Gates agrees with what Donald Trump is saying and
- 39:23Speaker 3: what he is doing. And I think we just have
- 39:25Speaker 3: to have patience here. Continue to have patience. The gas
- 39:29Speaker 3: prices will come down. when this is resolved. Hopefully, we
- 39:32Speaker 3: will pray for a resolution quickly. Amen.
- 39:35Speaker 16: I don't know about you, but the one thing the
- 39:36Speaker 16: last five or so years has taught me is that
- 39:39Speaker 16: there's a lot, and I mean a lot, of companies
- 39:41Speaker 16: and services out there that don't share the foundational values
- 39:44Speaker 16: of this country and we the people. And I've spoken
- 39:46Speaker 16: to a lot of you about it who share the
- 39:48Speaker 16: same concerns, and you wonder where to shop. where to
- 39:51Speaker 16: spend your hard-earned money without feeling gross about it. It
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- 40:43Speaker 3: Coming up tonight at 9 o'clock, it is After Dark
- 40:46Speaker 3: with Robin Andrew. Before that, the National Security Hour with
- 40:48Speaker 3: the two mics. And coming up in a few minutes,
- 40:51Speaker 3: it is Unleash the Political News Hour. I'm Booker. This
- 40:54Speaker 3: is The Truth Be Told. And Matt Palumbo is sitting
- 40:56Speaker 3: with me for Mondays with Matt, as he always does
- 40:59Speaker 3: on Monday night. Let's get into Cuba. Matt, you remember
- 41:02Speaker 3: when Venezuela happened and Maduro was captured, brought back to
- 41:06Speaker 3: New York, where he now will face the jury and
- 41:11Speaker 3: the judge and probably spend the rest of his life
- 41:14Speaker 3: in a jail somewhere in America. Well, we turned our
- 41:17Speaker 3: attention to Cuba because they got all of their oil
- 41:20Speaker 3: from Venezuela. They have no oil and they have no electricity.
- 41:26Speaker 3: And we saw Jayapal a couple of weeks ago where
- 41:28Speaker 3: she announced that she is trying to help the Cuban
- 41:31Speaker 3: country going against a 60-year embargo that has been in
- 41:35Speaker 3: place forever when That's a whole other story. We really
- 41:37Speaker 3: didn't touch on that at the time, but it happened.
- 41:40Speaker 3: Let's go to this News Nation report that was filed
- 41:43Speaker 3: Friday night, and Listen to this about Cuba, what is
- 41:46Speaker 3: going on there.
- 41:47Speaker 11: Cuba is facing extreme fuel shortages and growing unrest and
- 41:52Speaker 11: a rare visit from the CIA director as pressure on
- 41:56Speaker 11: the communist government intensifies. CIA director John Ratcliffe traveled to
- 42:00Speaker 11: Havana on Thursday for meetings with Cuba's interior minister and
- 42:04Speaker 11: the intelligence chief. Ratcliffe putting pressure on Cuban officials to
- 42:07Speaker 11: stabilize the country's economy and work with the Trump administration
- 42:11Speaker 11: on security and economic issues. The talks come as the
- 42:13Speaker 11: Trump administration continues ramping up the pressure on Cuba, including
- 42:17Speaker 11: what Politico has described as a de facto fuel embargo
- 42:20Speaker 11: following the U.S. operation targeting former Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro
- 42:24Speaker 11: earlier this year. Cuba is now dealing with several diesel
- 42:28Speaker 11: shortages and widespread blackouts, with some parts of Havana reportedly
- 42:32Speaker 11: losing power for more than 20 hours a day. The
- 42:34Speaker 11: crisis is spilling into the streets. Protesters in Havana have
- 42:37Speaker 11: been banging pots, blocking roads, and demanding electricity as frustration
- 42:41Speaker 11: grows over the collapsing power grid. We talked with a
- 42:44Speaker 11: former U.S. intelligence official who says that the threat that
- 42:48Speaker 11: Cuba is posing is only growing.
- 42:50Speaker 9: It's quickly becoming a threat to the U.S., not only
- 42:53Speaker 9: from a military standpoint, but also because the infrastructure is
- 42:58Speaker 9: falling apart. We may have and we may see something
- 43:02Speaker 9: somewhat of what we saw in the early 80s, a
- 43:04Speaker 9: mass exodus of humans trying to reach the US. They
- 43:08Speaker 9: may claim that the US is the bad guy, but
- 43:12Speaker 9: for many years, for 67 years, It's been a communist
- 43:16Speaker 9: country that has denied Cubans freedom to elect who they
- 43:20Speaker 9: want to be their politician.
- 43:22Speaker 11: But Cuba's ambassador to the U.S. is pushing back, saying, quote,
- 43:25Speaker 11: we are not a threat to the U.S. We are
- 43:27Speaker 11: a small island that wants only to be left alone
- 43:30Speaker 11: to decide our future.
- 43:31Speaker 3: But if illegal aliens come into America from Cuba, then
- 43:34Speaker 3: it is a national security risk. Matt, what do you
- 43:38Speaker 3: make of this in Cuba? We kind of called it.
- 43:40Speaker 3: We knew this was coming. I really thought it would
- 43:42Speaker 3: have already happened, but it seems like everything happens a
- 43:45Speaker 3: little bit slower than I wanted or predicted. Either way.
- 43:48Speaker 4: Well, you know, we had a policy for many decades
- 43:51Speaker 4: in this country where if a Cuban just showed up
- 43:54Speaker 4: on our soil, we would take them in because we
- 43:57Speaker 4: assumed they were a political refugee or something of that sort.
- 44:01Speaker 4: They were fleeing communism. It was actually Joe Biden who
- 44:05Speaker 4: ended that policy. And it seems crazy. Like, why would
- 44:09Speaker 4: the guy who opened up America's borders to the entire
- 44:12Speaker 4: rest of the world do then for some reason deny
- 44:16Speaker 4: it to Cuba? Well, you look at how they vote
- 44:18Speaker 4: in Miami and it makes quite a lot of sense,
- 44:21Speaker 4: but it was entirely politically motivated. You knew that if
- 44:23Speaker 4: they became citizens down the line, they would break 60-40
- 44:27Speaker 4: or 70-30 Republican and then got rid of that. So
- 44:30Speaker 4: I guess for once, we can thank Joe Biden for
- 44:33Speaker 4: potentially helping us on a border issue. But the argument
- 44:37Speaker 4: I hear a lot that And these are liberals justifying
- 44:41Speaker 4: illegal immigration. They'll say things like, well, we messed up
- 44:44Speaker 4: their home country, so they had no choice to come here.
- 44:47Speaker 4: My response is always, OK, first of all, cite me
- 44:50Speaker 4: the example of the country we screwed up and how
- 44:52Speaker 4: many people we brought in. Second of all, what, their
- 44:55Speaker 4: neighbors couldn't take them in? There's almost, I mean, there's, what,
- 44:59Speaker 4: 180 plus countries? Less than 200. But there's a lot
- 45:02Speaker 4: of countries in the world that that they could go
- 45:05Speaker 4: to besides the U.S. And third of all, we're allowed
- 45:08Speaker 4: to say no. Even if it was objectively the case
- 45:11Speaker 4: that we caused a refugee crisis in a country, logically speaking,
- 45:16Speaker 4: why would you want to take in a population that
- 45:18Speaker 4: hates you because of what you did? So I just
- 45:21Speaker 4: don't buy their arguments for that reason. And I don't
- 45:24Speaker 4: think we're going to see a humanitarian crisis if we
- 45:26Speaker 4: try to fix Cuba. I mean, you can't get worse
- 45:29Speaker 4: than communism.
- 45:30Speaker 14: No.
- 45:31Speaker 3: And people on the left, they seem to forget the
- 45:33Speaker 3: Cuban Missile Crisis and what was happening way back then.
- 45:37Speaker 3: Let's go to Marco Rubio and some comments he made
- 45:39Speaker 3: on Cuba on Air Force One recently. Let's listen to this.
- 45:44Speaker 2: In the case of Cuba, it's a very different situation.
- 45:46Speaker 2: There is no economy in Cuba. To the extent there's
- 45:49Speaker 2: any wealth in Cuba, it doesn't go, forget about it
- 45:52Speaker 2: doesn't go to the people, it doesn't even go to
- 45:54Speaker 2: the government. The wealth is controlled by a private, by
- 45:57Speaker 2: a company owned by military generals. They take all the money,
- 46:00Speaker 2: they're sitting on billions of dollars. This is a country
- 46:03Speaker 2: where people are literally now eating garbage from the streets.
- 46:06Speaker 2: But they have a company that controls all of the
- 46:08Speaker 2: money making there that's sitting on 15, 16 billion dollars.
- 46:12Speaker 2: So it's a broken, non-functional economy.
- 46:14Speaker 3: And then you have to ask the question, what will
- 46:16Speaker 3: happen when it finally does collapse? Who is going to
- 46:21Speaker 3: be in charge there? You hear a lot of different things.
- 46:23Speaker 3: You know that the people of Cuba want to create
- 46:26Speaker 3: their own government, but then you could end up with
- 46:29Speaker 3: another Haiti. Let's be honest about it.
- 46:31Speaker 4: Yeah, in the Haitian example, though, they murdered the entire
- 46:37Speaker 4: host population that knew how to run the place. So
- 46:40Speaker 4: they kind of shot themselves in the foot there. You know,
- 46:43Speaker 4: I can't think of any examples of a communist country
- 46:47Speaker 4: giving up communism and then things getting worse. The only
- 46:50Speaker 4: sort of exception would be, you know, there being a
- 46:53Speaker 4: rocky transition for a few years where there's going to
- 46:56Speaker 4: be turbulence, where certain government agencies, you know, no longer exist.
- 47:00Speaker 4: And those people don't have jobs for a few months
- 47:02Speaker 4: or years or whatever. But in the long run, you know,
- 47:05Speaker 4: 10 years out, things are always way better.
- 47:07Speaker 3: I think America is ratcheting up the pressure on Cuba
- 47:10Speaker 3: right now because there is an indictment coming for the
- 47:14Speaker 3: brother of Fidel Castro. He's now 94 years old. His
- 47:17Speaker 3: name is Raul Castro. Let's listen to this from News Nation,
- 47:21Speaker 3: another part of that report I played earlier.
- 47:23Speaker 11: Intentions may grow even more as the U.S. is eyeing
- 47:27Speaker 11: an indictment against former Cuban president Raul Castro, saying it's
- 47:33Speaker 11: tied to the 1996 downing of humanitarian aid planes in
- 47:37Speaker 11: the country. Now, it's not clear on the timing of that,
- 47:40Speaker 11: but people familiar with it say that it's imminent and
- 47:43Speaker 11: could happen any time.
- 47:44Speaker 3: Have you heard anything about that, Matt, or is that
- 47:46Speaker 3: news to you?
- 47:47Speaker 4: I heard that it's both imminent and could happen at
- 47:50Speaker 4: any time.
- 47:51Speaker 3: It's very good to clarify.
- 47:54Speaker 4: I saw that as well. I think it's almost comical
- 47:57Speaker 4: that we're going after a 94-year-old, but it shows that
- 48:00Speaker 4: we don't forget. You really cannot escape us. We're not
- 48:03Speaker 4: going to let anyone get away with anything.
- 48:06Speaker 3: Well, it's a 30-year crime, allegedly, but Is it more
- 48:10Speaker 3: for messaging here for the people of Cuba? I think
- 48:12Speaker 3: that's what it is. That's why I said kind of
- 48:15Speaker 3: set it up that way, that this is about something
- 48:17Speaker 3: more than just indicting a 94 year old who happened
- 48:21Speaker 3: to be president of Cuba at one time. This is messaging.
- 48:24Speaker 3: This is decapitating the top. This is doing an end
- 48:29Speaker 3: to the Castros who brought in communism into the country.
- 48:33Speaker 4: I don't mean to imply that 90-year-olds, the laws don't
- 48:36Speaker 4: apply to them.
- 48:36Speaker 3: No, I didn't take it that way, but you're right.
- 48:39Speaker 3: You made a good point, but I just think that
- 48:41Speaker 3: it means more than, hey, by the way, we're going
- 48:44Speaker 3: after 94-year-old Castro here. There is a message here in
- 48:49Speaker 3: this indictment. I believe that's why the DOJ is going
- 48:52Speaker 3: to do this indictment. So watch for that. As she said,
- 48:55Speaker 3: it's imminent. So look for it this week. Who knows
- 48:57Speaker 3: when that will come? Let's remember the Keystone Pipeline for
- 49:01Speaker 3: a moment. And way back when Obama was president. And
- 49:04Speaker 3: you had Doug Burgum, who had just become the governor
- 49:08Speaker 3: of the state of North Dakota when this happened. Do
- 49:10Speaker 3: you remember all of that happening? It's been a while.
- 49:12Speaker 3: It's been 10, 11, 12 years ago. Well, fine. Yeah.
- 49:16Speaker 3: Do you remember it?
- 49:17Speaker 4: That was like the environmental issue of the Obama era.
- 49:21Speaker 4: That was just the recurring thing they were obsessed with
- 49:23Speaker 4: more than anything.
- 49:24Speaker 3: And Obama was encouraging it. He was putting his finger
- 49:27Speaker 3: on it. He was using people like Greenpeace. Well, there
- 49:31Speaker 3: was a big court trial and Greenpeace was fined $ 345
- 49:33Speaker 3: million over that. And that's how long it takes for
- 49:41Speaker 3: justice to come to America. For those of you who
- 49:44Speaker 3: are giving up on the 2020 election and the Russian hoax, well,
- 49:50Speaker 3: here's an example of something that took 10 years. Let's
- 49:52Speaker 3: go to this. This is Bill Hammer on Fox News
- 49:55Speaker 3: with Doug Burgum. You were governor of North Dakota at
- 49:57Speaker 3: that time. What do you remember?
- 50:00Speaker 13: Well, Bill, I took office on December 15th of November 16th,
- 50:04Speaker 13: and at that time there was thousands of protesters camping
- 50:07Speaker 13: illegally on federal land. This protest, there was a separate
- 50:11Speaker 13: trial that showed that the Obama administration, which was still
- 50:15Speaker 13: in office at that time, was putting their thumb on
- 50:17Speaker 13: the scale on the side of the protesters. And this
- 50:23Speaker 13: hurt the tribe. It hurt their casino. It hurt their revenues.
- 50:27Speaker 13: The local ranchers and farmers were being terrorized. The law
- 50:30Speaker 13: was being broken every possible which way, not just trespassing,
- 50:34Speaker 13: but human trafficking, sex trafficking, drug trafficking, ATF issues, arms issues.
- 50:40Speaker 13: I mean, this place was a toxic mix of protests
- 50:44Speaker 13: all in there, grifting and trying to grab national attention.
- 50:48Speaker 13: And I'd say today's ruling is really for the rule
- 50:51Speaker 13: of law. I mean, in North Dakota, we understand free speech.
- 50:54Speaker 13: We support free speech. But there's a difference between free
- 50:57Speaker 13: speech and violence. And I think this is a timely
- 51:01Speaker 13: and appropriate outcome from the jury.
- 51:04Speaker 3: Again, it was $ 345 million that the judge put on
- 51:05Speaker 3: Greenpeace for that. Do you remember all of that when
- 51:10Speaker 3: that was going on, Matt?
- 51:13Speaker 4: Yeah. As I was saying, it was kind of like
- 51:16Speaker 4: the number one climate issue of the day back then.
- 51:21Speaker 4: I don't even remember what ended up happening. Didn't Trump
- 51:23Speaker 4: end up giving it a green light?
- 51:26Speaker 3: Well, the Keystone Pipeline, from what I understand now from
- 51:29Speaker 3: the people I talk to in the oil and gas industry,
- 51:32Speaker 3: it's probably too expensive to make it effective in actually
- 51:35Speaker 3: working and bringing oil from the Alberta region of Canada.
- 51:40Speaker 3: The Alberta region of Canada, having talked to people there
- 51:44Speaker 3: on this show before, they are trying to find a
- 51:47Speaker 3: company that will bring it back. Donald Trump has said
- 51:50Speaker 3: if we can find a company that wants to do
- 51:53Speaker 3: it again and can make it cost effective for bringing
- 51:56Speaker 3: the oil to America, by all means, we'll do it.
- 51:58Speaker 3: But I know Donald Trump is working on deregulating things
- 52:01Speaker 3: so that we can pump the oil that's in our ground.
- 52:04Speaker 3: We have a lot of it. Let's go to something
- 52:06Speaker 3: AOC said. By the way, she happens to be the
- 52:09Speaker 3: frontrunner for 2028 for the Democrats. That's scary. That's scary.
- 52:15Speaker 3: Here's what she said about gerrymandering. Quote, it is time
- 52:19Speaker 3: for the North to pull up to the South. It
- 52:21Speaker 3: is time for New York to pull up to Alabama.
- 52:24Speaker 3: It is time for all of us to come to Georgia,
- 52:27Speaker 3: to Louisiana, to Tennessee, to Mississippi, and let them know
- 52:30Speaker 3: exactly what they have uncorked with this injustice. The injustice
- 52:37Speaker 3: was the way that the maps were previously gerrymandered in racism.
- 52:42Speaker 3: And this is just amazing to me that AOC is
- 52:47Speaker 3: speaking these types of things. And she's not alone. It's
- 52:50Speaker 3: everybody on the left. And she is, I guess, now
- 52:52Speaker 3: the leader of the Democrat Party.
- 52:54Speaker 13: Is she?
- 52:54Speaker 4: Seemingly so. There's this quote that I used to see liberals.
- 53:00Speaker 4: Cite a lot. And I think it was actually originally
- 53:02Speaker 4: a Thomas Salk quote, and they didn't realize. But when
- 53:05Speaker 4: they would lecture us about racism, they would say things like,
- 53:08Speaker 4: you know, when you're accustomed to special treatment, equality seems
- 53:12Speaker 4: like oppression. And they were trying to, like, shame white
- 53:15Speaker 4: people that were against Black Lives Matter. But it's just
- 53:18Speaker 4: such a funny quote, because that also applies to every
- 53:22Speaker 4: scene they come up with, like affirmative action or or
- 53:25Speaker 4: having racially gerrymandered districts where we're literally just saying, no,
- 53:29Speaker 4: you can't rig elections based on race, and they're saying
- 53:33Speaker 4: that's racism. Well, no, what you were doing was the racism.
- 53:36Speaker 4: We're the ones undoing it.
- 53:37Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nuts, isn't it? Let's go to your senator
- 53:40Speaker 3: there in New Jersey, Cory Booker. He had a nice comment,
- 53:44Speaker 3: and maybe you didn't see this. We're coming up on
- 53:47Speaker 3: the end of the hour, but I want to sneak
- 53:48Speaker 3: this in here real quick. Senator Cory Booker says... Marijuana
- 53:53Speaker 3: is safer than McDonald's french fries. He argues that fast
- 53:58Speaker 3: food is heavily addictive and causes serious health problems. Yet,
- 54:03Speaker 3: cannabis is the one that gets banned. That is your senator,
- 54:08Speaker 3: by the way. That's Senator Cory Booker. He is making
- 54:11Speaker 3: big headlines there in Washington, D.C. as he does things
- 54:14Speaker 3: for people like you sitting there in New Jersey. He's
- 54:17Speaker 3: a joke, and I think he also wants to be
- 54:19Speaker 3: on that presidential stage today. there's no chance he's ever
- 54:22Speaker 3: going to get there. I also hear that Kamala Harris is,
- 54:26Speaker 3: you know, she's still in the background. She still thinks
- 54:28Speaker 3: her time is coming in 2028. Matt, I know that
- 54:32Speaker 3: you and I both believe that will not happen, that
- 54:34Speaker 3: it's going to be somebody else I picked a long
- 54:36Speaker 3: time ago, I said, as a dark horse, Andy Beshear
- 54:40Speaker 3: out of Kentucky. Well, he's moved from 2% to 4%,
- 54:44Speaker 3: so don't give up on your bet there on your
- 54:46Speaker 3: predictive market. But, Matt, we're to the end of this hour.
- 54:50Speaker 3: What do we look for this week? What are you
- 54:51Speaker 3: thinking is going to come up? We have this big
- 54:53Speaker 3: race in Kentucky on Tuesday with Thomas Massey and Ed Galran.
- 54:57Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting to watch. It will be
- 54:59Speaker 3: a litmus test for this upcoming primary season.
- 55:02Speaker 4: Well, I guess to totally steal your answer, I mean,
- 55:05Speaker 4: the Thomas Massey race is what I was going to say.
- 55:08Speaker 4: So that, and then Iran, Iran, Iran, which I say
- 55:11Speaker 4: every week.
- 55:12Speaker 3: Everybody does. Everybody's talking about Iran. And China is in
- 55:16Speaker 3: the rearview mirror now. Let's go forward. Let's stay concentrated
- 55:20Speaker 3: on this primary season and then the general, the midterm
- 55:24Speaker 3: election coming up in November. Matt, have a great week.
- 55:27Speaker 3: We'll do it again next Monday night. Thank you so much,
- 55:29Speaker 3: as always, for coming on the program. I appreciate it.
- 55:32Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll see you all next week.
- 55:33Speaker 3: And don't forget that you were told 2,000 years ago
- 55:35Speaker 3: that you are the salt of the earth. And salt
- 55:38Speaker 3: without flavor, it has no value. So whatever you do,
- 55:42Speaker 3: keep being salty. Have a great night.
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