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NCAA Tournament Preview: Is TCU A Good Matchup For Ohio State? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Wednesday, March eighteenth. I'm
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  Speaker 1: today's show, we're talking a little bit of Ohio State basketball.
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  Speaker 1: The NCAA Tournament tips off on Tuesday night in Dayton
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  Speaker 1: for the first four the buck Eyes. They will tip
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  Speaker 1: things off on Thursday starting about twelve fifteen pm on CBS.
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  Speaker 1: Eighth seeded Ohio State picks on nine seeded TCU Todays show.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to get here a little bit from Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State head coach Jake Diebler some of his thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: that matchup, the NCAA Tournament in general, and this is
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  Speaker 1: all courtesy of Ohio State Athletics. So the Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: staff has been grinding film ever since they saw who
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  Speaker 1: they were going to be playing in that game. He
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  Speaker 1: actually mentioned that the managers were up very very late
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday night breaking down TCU. You'll hear more about
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  Speaker 1: why he thinks about that a little bit later on
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  Speaker 1: in the show. But what stands out about the Horned
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  Speaker 1: Frogs so far?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, physical and aggressive defensively. You know, I think they
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  Speaker 2: do a good job at turning teams over and they're
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  Speaker 2: really aggressive on the glass. So you know, we're used
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  Speaker 2: to that in this league certainly, but they have really
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  Speaker 2: good team. It's had some big time wins this year
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  Speaker 2: and a coach who's you know, had had success in
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  Speaker 2: the tournament before. But I think their physicality and aggressiveness
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  Speaker 2: defensively is what really stood out initially.
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  Speaker 1: Tony Gerdaman and I talked about this a little bit
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  Speaker 1: on the Instant Reaction show after this matchup first got announced.
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  Speaker 1: But TCU has one of the most efficient defenses in
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  Speaker 1: the nation without having any major contributors who are taller
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  Speaker 1: than six foot eight. That's not an easy combination to
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  Speaker 1: pull off. So how do they do that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think those guys, you know, play bigger. They
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  Speaker 2: got good length and athleticism than maybe you know, some
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  Speaker 2: of the guys were used to see and in the
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  Speaker 2: big ten, right, But you know, so I think their
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  Speaker 2: size is still impactful. It's just different than what we
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  Speaker 2: see sometimes, you know, I think for us, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the things that we've stressed are going to be really
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  Speaker 2: important this game, obviously rebounding and taking care of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, we've seen some of their defensive schemes.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we like what they are trying to do.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen that this year at times. So we have
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  Speaker 2: some stuff to reference, I think, which is valuable. But
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  Speaker 2: you know this, to some degree, you got to like,
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  Speaker 2: you can't We're like too much on kind of what's
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  Speaker 2: happened in the past. You got to just focus on
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  Speaker 2: for us, how we're playing right now and continuing to
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  Speaker 2: do that, and then having you know, controlling what we
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  Speaker 2: could control really well, and then taking away some things
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  Speaker 2: that are strengths of theirs, you know, offensively well.
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  Speaker 1: Hio State has come on strong down the stretch, winning
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  Speaker 1: four of their last five games, and one of the
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  Speaker 1: one of the reasons for that is freshman Amari buying him.
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  Speaker 1: He has come on very strong down the stretch of
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  Speaker 1: the season, double digit points in four straight games or
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  Speaker 1: straight wins. Before that, lost to Michigan and you will
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  Speaker 1: hear Jake Diebler reference that Loston Michigan as a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a step back for buying him in particular.
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  Speaker 1: But his hole that stretch, his home stretch, highlighted by
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  Speaker 1: eighteen points and nine boards against Indiana, one of his
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  Speaker 1: best performances of the season. So how much better can
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  Speaker 1: a Mauri Binhm get for the Buckeyes.
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  Speaker 3: Well, was shown that there's a maturity to his game.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's translated his I think his size and
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  Speaker 2: physicality for a young player has really been impactful, and
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  Speaker 2: we're seeing him, you know, be more aggressive. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: think he was aggressive enough last game, and he and
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  Speaker 2: I talked about that a couple times during the game.
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  Speaker 2: But he's been consistently more aggressive, which has been great
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  Speaker 2: for us. It's helped us be more dynamic offensively and
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  Speaker 2: helped us on the glass. So he's playing a major role,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, as far as his ceiling goes, I
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  Speaker 2: think he's got pro potential. I think he's you know,
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  Speaker 2: gotten ability to be a huge impact player next year.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I'm confident he's going to reach you know,
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  Speaker 2: those heights at some point in the near future because
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  Speaker 2: of how he approaches things and how he works. But
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  Speaker 2: the thing that's special about him is he's just focused
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  Speaker 2: on getting better and helping us win right now. And
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  Speaker 2: you know he does that by working on his game.
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  Speaker 2: And as long as he continues to do that's the
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  Speaker 2: sky's the limit for him.
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  Speaker 1: One piece of news that broke on Monday was the
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  Speaker 1: retirement of former Ohio State head coach Thad Mada. He
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  Speaker 1: had been the coach of Butler the last four years,
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  Speaker 1: officially hanging up his whistle on Monday. So Jake Giebeler
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  Speaker 1: was asked what that moda meant to the Ohio State program.
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  Speaker 2: It's not great for college basketball, I think because I
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  Speaker 2: think he's one of the good guys. He's one of
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  Speaker 2: the one of the guys who always did it the
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  Speaker 2: right way, and Hall of Famer and you know, one
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  Speaker 2: a ton and you know we need we need to
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  Speaker 2: celebrate him in this program in his career. I've you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's funny, I beg that to come back here. Even
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  Speaker 2: offered him like a fad amount of bibblehead night to
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  Speaker 2: get him to come back and maybe do an exhibition
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  Speaker 2: game or something, just so we can honor him. So
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  Speaker 2: he's he's played a pivotal part in the history of
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  Speaker 2: this program. And you know, he and his career and
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  Speaker 2: his family deserve to be honored for that. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure he'll enjoy the sunshine. I know that's important to him.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, maybe now I can even even pick
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  Speaker 2: his brain a little bit more often than I used to,
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  Speaker 2: now that he he might not have as much going on.
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  Speaker 1: And now, specifically, what did that not mean to the
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  Speaker 1: Deebler family, Because of course you will probably remember most
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  Speaker 1: fans will remember Jake Diebler's brother, John Diebler was obviously
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  Speaker 1: a star for thad mana early you know, in the
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  Speaker 1: glory days of Ohio State modern Ohio State basketball. Jake
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  Speaker 1: also got his start at Ohio State as a video
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  Speaker 1: coordinator under that Mana. So what did that mean to
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  Speaker 1: the Deebler family so much?
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  Speaker 3: So much?
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  Speaker 2: You know, certainly when John played for him, and listen,
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  Speaker 2: John struggled as freshman year and that was hard, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, I remember at that time. It's funny, my
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  Speaker 2: freshman year I didn't play much. I told my dad
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to transfer, and he told me never to
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  Speaker 2: call him again. And you know, suck it up and
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  Speaker 2: grind it out. John, I think, you know, there was
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  Speaker 2: a there was a point in time where John was like, man,
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  Speaker 2: is this you know my bill for this? And Dad
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  Speaker 2: basically told him like, yes, you are, you know, get
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  Speaker 2: back to work, and he did and went on to
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  Speaker 2: have a great career. So I think what Dad's meant
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  Speaker 2: to us, certainly for John and solidifying his place in
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  Speaker 2: Ohio state and a family that he'll always have long,
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  Speaker 2: you know, long after he's done coaching. You know, So this,
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  Speaker 2: like this program, this place means a lot to John
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  Speaker 2: personally and our family. And then for me to be
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  Speaker 2: able to work for him and for the first guy
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  Speaker 2: that I worked for outside of the Drew family and
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  Speaker 2: to learn and see things you know, in a different way,
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  Speaker 2: just special like our family forever, you know, appreciative of
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  Speaker 2: what Fad and his family has done for us and
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  Speaker 2: how they've helped us.
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  Speaker 3: And you know that's why I've.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've always tried to honor him, and I
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  Speaker 2: consider myself part of his coaching treat and you know,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, hopefully I can talk to him a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more now that he's not not as busy,
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  Speaker 2: but I'd just say congratulations on an unbelievable career.
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  Speaker 1: So when Jake Diebler started his press conference, it didn't
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  Speaker 1: play the clip, but he started the press conference talking
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  Speaker 1: about how hard the video guys had been working and
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  Speaker 1: the managers had been working to break down the film. Well, okay,
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  Speaker 1: here's why he thinks about that. You mentioned he was
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  Speaker 1: the video coordinator at Ohio State. That's where he got
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  Speaker 1: his start at Ohio State under thad MANA. So when
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  Speaker 1: that was him grinding that film, what was this week
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  Speaker 1: like trying to prepare for a very important game on
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  Speaker 1: a very short turnaround.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. You know, it was funny.
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  Speaker 2: As a video coordinator, you're following bracketology and trying to anticipate,
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  Speaker 2: like who were the ten or twelve teams you could
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  Speaker 2: potentially get matched up against.
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  Speaker 3: And then you know, so you start there.
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  Speaker 2: And you're gathering trying to get five games maybe of each,
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  Speaker 2: and start to work on you as it gets closer,
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  Speaker 2: you narrow down. Okay, maybe it's these four six er
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  Speaker 2: you're starting to work on personnel film for the coach
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  Speaker 2: who had to do personnel.
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  Speaker 3: And I'd spent a lot of time in this.
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  Speaker 2: Little closet back here, you know, cutting up, taping and
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  Speaker 2: almost corraling and and huddling up with the managers to help.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a fun time for a video coordinator. And
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  Speaker 2: our managers are unbelievable. We've there's actually been a tradition
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  Speaker 2: in this program that goes back a long time with
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  Speaker 2: managers and how impactful they've been, guys that have gone
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  Speaker 2: on to be coaches, and like some of those guys
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  Speaker 2: are in the NCAA Tournament this year, So it's pretty special.
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  Speaker 2: And as a video coordinator you kind of have to
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  Speaker 2: like lead that group a little bit. But yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: different as a head coach. They hand you, right, they
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  Speaker 2: hand you a bunch of games versus you being the
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  Speaker 2: one who had to cut them up. But man, unbelievable
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  Speaker 2: staff I got to work with, you know, back then
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  Speaker 2: to Jeff Bowles, Greg Paulis, Dave Dicker said, I mean
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  Speaker 2: just big time staff and so I was just trying
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  Speaker 2: to serve those guys.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 1: The NCAA Tournament is, of course all about matchups. Do
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  Speaker 1: you get a favorable matchup do you get a bad
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  Speaker 1: matchup against the team you're playing And teams with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of height that seemed like that might create matchup
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  Speaker 1: issues for Ohio State and as mentioned earlier that is
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  Speaker 1: not TCU. TCU does not have a ton of height.
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  Speaker 3: So does that.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe open things up for a guy likes ay Devin
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  Speaker 1: Royal to play a bigger role in this game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think in a game that we're anticipating
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  Speaker 2: to be really physical, Devin's a really physical player and
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  Speaker 2: you know, he can be impactful on both sides of
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  Speaker 2: the ball. You know, we need him aggressive offensively, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think he's best offensively when he's you know, scoring
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  Speaker 2: from all the levels right and and not just maybe
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  Speaker 2: settling enough for for you know, whether it's just perimeter
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  Speaker 2: or just interior, like when he's utilizing all his skill set,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's a real real asset for us. And then
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  Speaker 2: on the glass, you know, the rebounding battle is going
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  Speaker 2: to be critical in this game and he's going to
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  Speaker 2: play an important part of that. So it's a it's
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  Speaker 2: a great opportunity you know for him to I think
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  Speaker 2: be himself, like just just go do what you do
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  Speaker 2: and do what you know is you know, really impactful
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  Speaker 2: for winning for this team. And if he does, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a great thing for us.
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  Speaker 1: And finally we got to talk about Bruce Thorton, his
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  Speaker 1: fourth year at Ohio State, just became the leading scorer
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  Speaker 1: in program history in the regular season finale against Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: What does it mean to finally get to the NCAA
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  Speaker 1: Tournament in his fourth year and for Jake Diebeler to
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  Speaker 1: get there with Bruce Thorton.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it was it just it gave me
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  Speaker 2: a lot of joy to see the joy on his face.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when he saw our name pop pop up
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  Speaker 2: on the screen. I thought that was really cool. And
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  Speaker 2: he and I have spent a lot of time talking about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, what we wanted to accomplish together and whether
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  Speaker 2: that was for him personally or for this program, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, that was that was certainly on the list.
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  Speaker 3: So I think they were in that moment.
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  Speaker 2: It was very much you know, it was a great feeling,
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  Speaker 2: and it was great to kind of see him express
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  Speaker 2: how he.
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  Speaker 3: Felt with that.
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  Speaker 2: He's not a guy who's you know, has a lot
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  Speaker 2: of express essians a lot of times. But I think
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  Speaker 2: the other thing I appreciate about Bruce is he's ready
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  Speaker 2: to get to work to you know, get you know,
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  Speaker 2: for us to go on and play well and for
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  Speaker 2: him to play well. So it certainly hopefully for him
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  Speaker 2: serves as a just a marker of validation. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to keep working. I think he's got a
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  Speaker 2: big time future ahead of him in basketball at the
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  Speaker 2: next level.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, we're not done yet.
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  Speaker 2: So there's still kind of a said this last night,
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  Speaker 2: there's a final chapter this season for this group to
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  Speaker 2: be written, and you know, we got something to say
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  Speaker 2: about how that's written. And certainly he's going to play
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  Speaker 2: a huge role in that. He knows that, and I
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  Speaker 2: think he's excited about that opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: NCAA tournament tips off six point forty on Tuesday night
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  Speaker 1: in Dayton. Buckeyes will tip off twelve fifteen on Thursday
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  Speaker 1: against TCU. That one will be on CBS. March Madness
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