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The Rita Panahi Show | 24 July · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scorn Lids Australia. This is the Weader Panete Show.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the reader Panahe Show.
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Speaker 3: I'm Caroline Drusso coming up on the show tonight. Democrats
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Speaker 3: are gathering in droves, are ready to jump on the
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Speaker 3: Kamala train.
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Speaker 2: But what does she actually stand for?
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Speaker 3: Douglas Murray joins me shortly to discuss just that the
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Speaker 3: Victorian government is again in the firing line after their
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Speaker 3: push to include trans women in an inquiry on women's pain.
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Speaker 3: Rachel Wong from Women's Forum Australia on that, and of
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Speaker 3: course a stellar edition of Left is losing it where
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Speaker 3: the Trump arrangement syndrome, Well, it continues to flourish.
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Speaker 4: We the people united mobilized and voted down this existential
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Speaker 4: threat to democracy and freedom.
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Speaker 5: That we continue the march progress, that we lay the
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Speaker 5: foundation right better future, and that we sought to create.
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Speaker 1: Home perfect union.
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Speaker 5: Progress is possible.
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Speaker 2: Flourishing, it really is.
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Speaker 3: But first joining me now is Deputy Executive Director of
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Speaker 3: the Institute of Public Affairs, Daniel Wild. Daniel, we know
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Speaker 3: Labour's Future Made in Australia agenda is just its very
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Speaker 3: latest boondoggle. Even the OECD suspects it will be a
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Speaker 3: field day for lobbyists. We know that government's are notoriously
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Speaker 3: bad at picking winners. Is the OECD on the money here.
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Speaker 6: Well, Caroline, future made in Australia is really a future
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Speaker 6: made in marginal labor seats, because this is what it's
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Speaker 6: all about. As you know, it's about politics, not economics,
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Speaker 6: and taxpayers are going to be fleeced for no meaningful
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Speaker 6: outcome to our society. We can't have a future made
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Speaker 6: in Australia under the policy of net zero. Net zero
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Speaker 6: is responsible for skyrocketing energy prices, which is offshoring our manufacturing,
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Speaker 6: offshowing our heavy industry. And we know that the number
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Speaker 6: one winner from policies of netszuro is not Australia, it's China.
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Speaker 6: China is the major manufacturer and exporter of wind turbines
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Speaker 6: and solar panels. Australia doesn't get any value from the
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Speaker 6: exports of that, and it's about China reorientating global economic
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Speaker 6: supply chains around it.
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Speaker 7: So this is a very short.
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Speaker 6: Sighted, myopic policy that is clearly not in our national interests.
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Speaker 3: No, it's not and still on dumb ideas or dumb
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Speaker 3: labor ideas which hamper productivity. And Robert god Libsen had
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Speaker 3: an excellent piece in The Australian on Labour's recent IR
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Speaker 3: changes and the ability they give unions essentially to strangle productivity.
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Speaker 2: Within family businesses.
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Speaker 3: What is this reformant and what are the consequences likely
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Speaker 3: for business?
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Speaker 6: We've got leaps AND's hit the nail on the head
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Speaker 6: and he's been discussing this important issue now for some time.
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Speaker 6: And look, in essence, it would allow unfettered entry of
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Speaker 6: unions and union delegates into small business work sites across Australia.
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Speaker 6: It's on top of the effective outlawing of casual work,
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Speaker 6: which is foundational to small businesses across the country. And
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Speaker 6: I think it builds on this broader ideological agenda of
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Speaker 6: Labor and the Left which is anti small business, is
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Speaker 6: anti family business, which is the engine room of the economy.
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Speaker 6: But it's also foundational to the Australian way of life.
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Speaker 6: You know, small business is about hard work, independence, risk taking,
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Speaker 6: reward for effort, all of those values that we should
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Speaker 6: encourage in our society. And it further shows Caroline that
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Speaker 6: Labor is really now the party of big business, because
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Speaker 6: big business will be the main beneficiaries of these changes
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Speaker 6: because it will have less competition from small business. So
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Speaker 6: we know that small and family enterprises cannot absorb the
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Speaker 6: costs of these industrial relation changes in the same way
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Speaker 6: that big businesses can. And of course it comes on
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Speaker 6: the back of the COVID lockdowns, which hammered small business,
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Speaker 6: it helped big business, and so this is just another
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Speaker 6: step in the wrong direction.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and small businesses can't have a full compliance department
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Speaker 3: to deal with all these things, and that's where you
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Speaker 3: see that competition evaporate, but still on the economy and
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Speaker 3: concerns continue for both inflation and a potential for.
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Speaker 2: The employment rate to surge.
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Speaker 3: Inflation figures come down at the end of the month,
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Speaker 3: but I feel like we're being softened up for a
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Speaker 3: bit more bad economic news.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think you're right, Carolina. Unfortunately, you know, six
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Speaker 6: months ago we were talking about the next move of
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Speaker 6: interest rates was more likely to be down than up.
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Speaker 6: Now all the talk is it's going to be up
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Speaker 6: and not down. And that's because of two key factors.
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Speaker 6: One is out of control government spending at the federal
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Speaker 6: and state level. Just look at Queensland one thousand dollars
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Speaker 6: subsidies for energy bills. Well, that's going to get pumped
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Speaker 6: back into the economy three hundred dollars from the federal government.
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Speaker 6: We've also got this problem, Caroline, which is this mass migration,
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Speaker 6: unplanned mass migration, which is pumping demand into the economy
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Speaker 6: at the same time as our supply is going backwards.
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Speaker 6: You know, productivity growth is going backwards in this country,
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Speaker 6: so we're less able to generate wealth, we're less able
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Speaker 6: to generate prosperity at the same time as we've had
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Speaker 6: an unprecedented surge to mass migration, over a million net
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Speaker 6: migrants over the last two years, by far, the biggest
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Speaker 6: expansion in the history of our nation's population. So these
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Speaker 6: are causing surging prices and inflation. It's why Australians are
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Speaker 6: feeling all of the pain that they are at the checkout.
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Speaker 3: And Daniel, is it a question of does this federal
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Speaker 3: government have the tiker or not have the ticker to
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Speaker 3: make the big decisions which need to be made.
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Speaker 1: No, they don't.
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Speaker 6: They've shown no inclination to deal with the big problems.
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Speaker 7: Look on migration.
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Speaker 6: I know the government's been saying they're going to be
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Speaker 6: cutting numbers, but I believe it when I see it.
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Speaker 6: They haven't really taken on these issues in any meaningful way,
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Speaker 6: and that's because fundamentally, the only economic plan of this
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Speaker 6: government is to grow the economy by growing the population. Now,
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Speaker 6: of course, if you bring more people into a nation,
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Speaker 6: the economy will get bigger. You've got a bigger market,
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Speaker 6: more people spending money. But the slice of the pie
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Speaker 6: that everybody gets is going backwards. You know, we've had
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Speaker 6: five consecutive borders of negative per capita economic growth. So
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Speaker 6: this mass migration policy is making Australians poorer.
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Speaker 3: And the minute they reduce migration, that aggregate GDP figure
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Speaker 3: will come down along with it. So you know, they
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Speaker 3: say that's something they're going to do, but whether ultimately
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Speaker 3: they want to see aggregate GDP come down or not
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Speaker 3: is a totally different question. Now onto the self evident
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Speaker 3: and labor, Energy and Resources ministers across the country are
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Speaker 3: now trying to make the case for continued gas supply.
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Speaker 3: The narrative until recently has been to totally demonize gas.
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Speaker 3: But I suppose the reality is finally set in.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's right, Caroline.
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Speaker 6: I'd make one exception to that, which is I think
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Speaker 6: Madeline King, in all fairness to federal Resources Minister has
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Speaker 6: been saying from day dot of this government that we
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Speaker 6: need more gas into the market because renewables can't get
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Speaker 6: the job done. It shows that net zero does not work.
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Speaker 6: It's further evidence of that. We've just seen tweaky forests
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Speaker 6: give up on the government subsidized hydrogen. So it builds
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Speaker 6: on a series of problems. Clearly, those clear thinkers like
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Speaker 6: Madeline King have been rolled in cabinet by Chris Bowen
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Speaker 6: and those from the left of the party, and it
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Speaker 6: gets to this much bigger issue, which is the short
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Speaker 6: sighted policy at the state and federal level. Of course,
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Speaker 6: we need baseload power, we need coal and we need
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Speaker 6: gas into the system. We need it in there quick.
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Speaker 6: Prices are going up dramatically. We've had AEMO warning of
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Speaker 6: blackouts this summer. I mean, can you believe it in
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Speaker 6: a country like Australia, an abundance of coal, an abundance
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Speaker 6: of gas and abundance of uranium, we're talking about load
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Speaker 6: shedding and blackouts over summer. That just goes to the
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Speaker 6: monumental policy failures that we've seen in this country over
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Speaker 6: recent years.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely right there, Bang on now, I've only
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Speaker 3: got about a minute left for you. But protest is
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Speaker 3: at Uwa's curtain. University have got their nickers in or
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Speaker 3: not because the university has told them they can't use
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Speaker 3: from the river to the siege chair during their protest.
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Speaker 2: Daniel, how on earth will they ever survive?
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Speaker 1: Well, that's right.
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Speaker 6: I mean you're in Perth, Carolina and I think you know,
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Speaker 6: WA has probably been a bit more sensible on this
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Speaker 6: issue done on the Eastern seaboard, and I think, you know,
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Speaker 6: good on the university for finally cracking down on this.
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Speaker 6: I'm not holding my breath for anything from the University
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Speaker 6: of Sydney or the University of Melbourne. Look, of course
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Speaker 6: people have the right to voice their opinion and to protest.
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Speaker 6: You don't have the right to blockade. You don't have
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Speaker 6: the right to set up encampments. We know university students
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Speaker 6: don't want to go to campus because they don't feel
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Speaker 6: it's an environment where they can study and get ahead.
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Speaker 6: And I just don't understand for the life of me,
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Speaker 6: why are governments funding this. You know, all funding to
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Speaker 6: universities that are allowing these kind of protests to take
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Speaker 6: place should stop until these universally university vice chancellors finally
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Speaker 6: get with the program and understand that university should be
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Speaker 6: there for the pursuit of academic excellence, not this vis
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Speaker 6: if Retrick from a handful of students.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you for your insights.
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Speaker 3: Daniel Wild joining me now, is the author of international
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Speaker 3: best sellers, including The Strange Death of Europe, The Madness
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Speaker 3: of Crowds. In his latest book, The War on the West,
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Speaker 3: Douglas Murray, It's been a huge week in US politics,
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Speaker 3: and just when I thought an assassination attempt on a
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Speaker 3: former president would be the end of it, it turns
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Speaker 3: out it was just the beginning of the wheels coming off. Obviously,
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Speaker 3: Biden's resignation didn't just happen. Do we know what went
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Speaker 3: on behind the scenes and what ticked him over?
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Speaker 7: We very much know what happened behind the scenes.
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Speaker 8: Now it's almost a month since Joe Biden had that
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Speaker 8: catastrophic debate performance opposite Donald Trump, and many people thought
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Speaker 8: that the whole idea of the Democrats agreeing the Democrat
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Speaker 8: ticket agreeing to a debate so early, so far ahead
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Speaker 8: of the election, might have been an effort by some
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Speaker 8: of the Democrats to actually show world what they all secretly,
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Speaker 8: turn out have known, which is that Joe Biden was
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Speaker 8: far from firing on all cylinders these days. That fact
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Speaker 8: that was known by readers of certainly conservative media seems
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Speaker 8: to have come as a great shock to some of
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Speaker 8: the Democrats and certainly a lot of their supporters. And
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Speaker 8: so in the weeks since, there has been an effort,
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Speaker 8: first of all privately and then increasingly publicly among senior
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Speaker 8: Democrats to signal to Joe Biden, you know it's time
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Speaker 8: to leave.
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Speaker 7: It's very interesting.
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Speaker 8: In the days before Sunday, there was a growing public
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Speaker 8: set of statements by Democrats all sort of saying that
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Speaker 8: Joe Biden wasn't fit to xyz it the minute that
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Speaker 8: he released this strange statement on x formerly known as
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Speaker 8: Twitter on Sunday, the moment he released that. Suddenly, now
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Speaker 8: all the Democrats are saying, Joe Biden is the best
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Speaker 8: of us, He's a true here, this is what leadership
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Speaker 8: looks like, and so on. But yes, all the people
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Speaker 8: who are currently praising Joe Biden were, of course the
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Speaker 8: people who were busily pushing him out in recent days.
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Speaker 8: It's Nancy Pelosis, Chuck Schumer and many others. The whole
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Speaker 8: leadership of the Democrat Party realized that.
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Speaker 7: They were running a.
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Speaker 8: Candidate frankly totally unfit for the office. It was perfect
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Speaker 8: clear he couldn't perform the task, He couldn't stay awake
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Speaker 8: on television very easily.
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Speaker 7: No way he was going to run the country for
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Speaker 7: another four years.
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Speaker 8: Although it does raise a question of exactly who's running
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Speaker 8: it now, and the answer is, we don't know.
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Speaker 2: And that's the point. I suppose.
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Speaker 3: He may have dropped out as the nominee, but he's
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Speaker 3: still actually the president. And that said, he's canceled a
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Speaker 3: number of engagements this week and has extended his trip
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Speaker 3: in Delaware.
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Speaker 2: We also understand that despite confirmation.
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Speaker 3: By his doctor, he only has mild COVID symptoms. What
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Speaker 3: on it is going on here?
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Speaker 8: Well, the COVID symptoms might be mild, but none of
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Speaker 8: the other symptoms are, as I say, just increasingly obvious
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Speaker 8: to people, and in the whole slew of news that
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Speaker 8: came out in the last month, just perfectly obvious that
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Speaker 8: this was not a candidate at eighty one. Some eighty
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Speaker 8: one year olds might be sprightly, but Joe Biden isn't
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Speaker 8: among them. I became perfect obvious he wasn't gonna be
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Speaker 8: able to last for another four years. Of course, as
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Speaker 8: you say, I mean, there's still half a year almost
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Speaker 8: for him to go, for him to be running the
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Speaker 8: most important country in the world. But there are so
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Speaker 8: many questions now, and those people who think that this
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Speaker 8: has been a sort of lovely, sort of crowning of
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Speaker 8: Kamala Harris as his successor, I think there might be
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Speaker 8: a bit more pain to come from within the party
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Speaker 8: because not everyone in the Democrat hierarchy is absolutely sure
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Speaker 8: that Kamala is their winner in November.
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Speaker 3: No, but Kamala Harris has told a rally in Wisconsin
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Speaker 3: that she is enough support to secure.
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Speaker 2: The Democratic nomination.
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Speaker 9: Here she is announcing it so Wisconsin, I am told
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Speaker 9: as of this morning that we have earned the support
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Speaker 9: of enough delegates to secure the Democratic nomini.
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Speaker 3: But He's Representative Chuck Schumer, is rather awkward announcement, I
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Speaker 3: think back in Kamala.
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Speaker 10: So, now that the process is played out from the
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Speaker 10: grassroots bottom up, we are here today to throw our
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Speaker 10: support behind Vice President Kamala Harris.
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Speaker 1: I'm clapping.
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Speaker 3: You don't have to Douglas the Democrats scene. I think
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Speaker 3: more resigned to the fact that Kamala will be the
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Speaker 3: nominee rather than excited about it, don't.
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Speaker 8: You think, well, I mean, it's hard to see who
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Speaker 8: could be excited about it simply on a polls level.
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Speaker 8: You know, in the prospective polls of how people think
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Speaker 8: they might vote in November, Donald Trump was already beating
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Speaker 8: Joe Biden by two points in most polls. He's already
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Speaker 8: beaten Kamala Harris by five points. So I don't know
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Speaker 8: who would be especially excited about this. Kamilo is obviously
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Speaker 8: very excited about it and is going to show her
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Speaker 8: enthusiasm in that normal, usual and completely non fake way
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Speaker 8: she has of expressing enthusiasm for things principally herself and
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Speaker 8: her own words. But she might be an enthusiastic but
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Speaker 8: it's hard to see.
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Speaker 7: Who else is.
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Speaker 8: I watched a speech of her that she gave last
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Speaker 8: Thursday in North Carolina, and to say that the content
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Speaker 8: of it was vapid is to enormously.
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Speaker 7: Sort of praise her.
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Speaker 8: Really, there's almost no banality that she cannot come out with,
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Speaker 8: and what is her vision. It's a sort of sub
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Speaker 8: Obama rhetoric with absolutely no detail added on to it,
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Speaker 8: and it's not clear what she wants to do, other
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Speaker 8: of course, than to go forwards in time rather than
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Speaker 8: backwards in time, which is something she's especially passionate about.
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Speaker 2: But Douglas, do the Dems actually have another choice?
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Speaker 3: Is there actually another viable option at this point so
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Speaker 3: late in the race, Well.
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Speaker 8: It would have to be a really stunning household name.
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Speaker 8: There are a couple that are being thrown around, but
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Speaker 8: how likely they are to do anything?
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Speaker 7: I don't know, you.
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Speaker 8: Know, the enormous selfishness actually of Joe Biden and Jill
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Speaker 8: Biden and the Biden family and keeping Biden pretending he
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Speaker 8: was going to run until last Sunday. The selfishness of
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Speaker 8: it actually is that if he'd have said, say a
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Speaker 8: year ago, look, I've done my spell in office, I've
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Speaker 8: done everything I can. I'm in the twilight of my
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Speaker 8: years and it's time for next generation to come along,
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Speaker 8: there could have been at least a year for Democrat
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Speaker 8: candidates to put themselves forward, put forward their prospectives for leadership,
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Speaker 8: have an open debate among themselves, and for the best
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Speaker 8: man or woman to win. But because Joe Biden harm
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Speaker 8: so with such clenched fingers onto the presidency. The fact
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Speaker 8: that Jill Biden egged him on even when she must
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Speaker 8: have seen did see that he couldn't even walk onto
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Speaker 8: a stage without a detailed map of the terrain. It
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Speaker 8: suggests that, actually, you know, these people who have been
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Speaker 8: saying what patriots they are and so on, have really
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Speaker 8: mucked things up for their own political side, their own
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Speaker 8: political party.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I could have put that better.
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Speaker 3: But back to Kamala, and we have seen snippets of
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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris over the course of the.
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Speaker 2: Last three years.
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Speaker 3: Very few of those snippets have been edifying Douglas. Here
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Speaker 3: she is, as Senator upplauding the idea of defunding the police.
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Speaker 9: Right now, what we're seeing in America is many cities
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Speaker 9: spend over one third of their entire city budget on policing.
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Speaker 9: But meanwhile, we've been defunding public schools for years in America.
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Speaker 9: We've got to re examine what we're doing with American
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Speaker 9: tax payer dollars.
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Speaker 3: And here she is talking about eliminating private health insurance.
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Speaker 11: You support the Medicare for All bill, I think initially
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Speaker 11: co sponsored by Senator Bernie Sanders. You're also a cosponder ontt.
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Speaker 11: I believe it will totally eliminate private insurance. So for
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Speaker 11: people out there who like their insurance, they don't get
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Speaker 11: to keep it.
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Speaker 2: Well, listen, the.
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Speaker 9: Idea is that everyone gets access to medical care and
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Speaker 9: you don't have to go through the process of going
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Speaker 9: through an insurance company, having them give you approval, going
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Speaker 9: through the paperwork, all of the delay that may require.
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Speaker 9: Who of us has not had that situation where you've
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Speaker 9: got to wait for approval and the doctor says, well,
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Speaker 9: I don't know if your insurance company is going to
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Speaker 9: cover this.
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Speaker 2: Let's eliminate all of that. Let's move on, and it
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Speaker 2: doesn't stop there.
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Speaker 3: She also agreed with the hard left representative AOCS push
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Speaker 3: to eliminate cars in eleven years.
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Speaker 12: Sixty minutes this weekend, proudly calling herself a radical and
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Speaker 12: she's promoting policies like saying that every single carbon emission
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Speaker 12: in the country, every car should be eliminated within the
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Speaker 12: next eleven years, everything from a seventy to eighty percent
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Speaker 12: tax rate. Do you agree that she could possibly, in
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Speaker 12: this ideology of the socialist left, could splinter your party?
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Speaker 9: No, you know, I think that she is challenging the
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Speaker 9: status quo.
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Speaker 2: I think that's fantastic, Douglas.
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Speaker 3: You mentioned earlier the Obama talking points without the detail.
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Speaker 3: Do we know what she actually believes in and whether
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Speaker 3: and to what extent that would form part of any
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Speaker 3: democratic policy platform.
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Speaker 7: No, we have very little idea of what she believes in.
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Speaker 8: Actually, because she Isia says things like that's why we
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Speaker 8: need to have the conversation about that. That's one of
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Speaker 8: her tricks. Whenever she gets into a corner way, she
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Speaker 8: really doesn't know what to say. And the rest of it,
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Speaker 8: as I said earlier, sort of banalities. This is somebody who,
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Speaker 8: from the clips you just paid, seems to think that
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Speaker 8: they can answer the problems of education in America, of
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Speaker 8: healthcare in America, of crime in America.
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Speaker 7: But there's absolutely no meat on the bone.
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Speaker 8: I mean, the idea is in that first clip that
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Speaker 8: it's an either or in regards to policing or schooling.
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Speaker 8: It's not a lack of money that's the problem in
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Speaker 8: American schooling. It's a lack of decent teaching and a
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Speaker 8: lack of discipline in the schools. There are American students
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Speaker 8: in even the poorer states who have more money per
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Speaker 8: pupil paid by the state for the education than in
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Speaker 8: most countries around the world, and yet they still have
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Speaker 8: some of the worst literacy and numeracy rates. That's not
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Speaker 8: a failing of funding, that's a failing of the teaching
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Speaker 8: unions across America, among much else. Only Mama Harris can
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Speaker 8: present these complex problems, pretend the solution to them is
20:04
Speaker 8: simply more money and promise to put more money everywhere,
20:08
Speaker 8: and make it not at all clear with exactly how
20:12
Speaker 8: that money would be of any use. As I say,
20:14
Speaker 8: it's all vapid and empty rhetoric, and it's very unclear
20:20
Speaker 8: what she actually believes.
20:22
Speaker 7: She just says what she needs to say to.
20:24
Speaker 8: Get through the next ten seconds of any interview or speech.
20:30
Speaker 3: Which is going to be a huge problem if she,
20:33
Speaker 3: god forbid, turns out to be the president. But there's
20:36
Speaker 3: also been plenty of chatter about who her vice presidential
20:39
Speaker 3: candidate may be. A few suitors have started turning up
20:43
Speaker 3: being very flattering about Kamala in the.
20:45
Speaker 2: Last couple of days. Where do you think this will learn?
20:50
Speaker 7: Well?
20:50
Speaker 8: I mean, it's actually not clear to me that the
20:53
Speaker 8: most talented people in the party are going to put
20:55
Speaker 8: themselves forward. Does Kamala Harris, and you know, your name
21:03
Speaker 8: on a ticket seem at the moment to be a
21:05
Speaker 8: good prospect for you if you're a Democrat, an ambitious Democrat.
21:10
Speaker 7: I think probably not.
21:12
Speaker 8: I think quite a lot of the people that people
21:14
Speaker 8: assumed would get into the race actually won't if she
21:17
Speaker 8: is certainly the top of the ticket, because they would
21:21
Speaker 8: be the vice presidential running mate to a walking disaster.
21:26
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, we'll see, there's a long way
21:29
Speaker 8: to go. You know, in the next sort of almost
21:32
Speaker 8: four months, there will be I mean we've seen just
21:36
Speaker 8: the last week.
21:37
Speaker 7: You mentioned at the top of the show that just
21:39
Speaker 7: the last week has.
21:39
Speaker 8: Been unbelievable amount of things happening, from the attempted assassination
21:43
Speaker 8: of former President Trump to Joe Biden stepping out of
21:46
Speaker 8: the race on Twitter. So almost four months, absolutely anything
21:53
Speaker 8: can happen. But I just think that the Democrats are
21:56
Speaker 8: kidding themselves but no one else if they think that
21:59
Speaker 8: Kamala Harry is a strong candidate.
22:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a very very fair call.
22:08
Speaker 3: And back to where this week kind of started, obviously
22:11
Speaker 3: with that attempted assassination of Donald Trump Secret Service head
22:15
Speaker 3: Kimberly Chedtles She's finally stepped down overnight. This is, of course,
22:20
Speaker 3: following the Secret Services total failure to protect the former
22:24
Speaker 3: Donald Trump at that rally in Butler, Pennsylvania. They had
22:27
Speaker 3: one job and they absolutely botched it. Here is what
22:31
Speaker 3: Speaker Mike Johnson had to say.
22:33
Speaker 13: Our reaction, the immediate reaction to her resignation is that
22:35
Speaker 13: it is overdue. She should have done this at least
22:37
Speaker 13: a week ago. I'm happy to see that. I'm happy
22:41
Speaker 13: to see that she is heeded the call of both
22:44
Speaker 13: Republicans and Democrats. Now we have to pick up the pieces.
22:48
Speaker 1: We have to.
22:49
Speaker 13: Rebuild the American people's faith and trust in the Secret
22:52
Speaker 13: Services and agency.
22:53
Speaker 3: And it's no wonder she had to go, especially after
22:56
Speaker 3: that spectacle that was the questioning by the House Oversight
23:00
Speaker 3: meeting on Monday. Quite a sight to behold both Democrats
23:03
Speaker 3: and Republicans calling for her resignation.
23:06
Speaker 2: But I think this was probably my favorite exchange of
23:08
Speaker 2: the hearing.
23:09
Speaker 14: Would you agree that this is the most serious security
23:11
Speaker 14: lapse since President Reagan was shot in nineteen eighty one of.
23:15
Speaker 1: The Secret Service?
23:16
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I would.
23:18
Speaker 14: And you know, do you know what Stuart Knight did
23:22
Speaker 14: when he was in charge at the time of the
23:24
Speaker 14: Secret Service. Do you know what he did afterwards?
23:27
Speaker 2: He remained on duty.
23:29
Speaker 14: He resigned. He resigned. What's the difference between your position
23:33
Speaker 14: and what Stuart Knight did?
23:37
Speaker 15: What I will tell you, sir, is that I am
23:39
Speaker 15: dedicated to finding the answers to what happened, and like
23:43
Speaker 15: every Secret Service agent, we don't shirk from our responsibilities.
23:47
Speaker 2: I will remain on Douglas.
23:49
Speaker 3: The hubris that was on display at that hearing was
23:52
Speaker 3: absolutely extraordinary. Why on earth did it take so long
23:57
Speaker 3: for that reality to set in?
24:00
Speaker 16: Well?
24:00
Speaker 8: I watched that hearing and came away with a view
24:03
Speaker 8: that the now former head of the Secret Services clearly
24:06
Speaker 8: decided that her aim in the hearing was to say
24:10
Speaker 8: as little as possible whilst presenting herself as being as
24:14
Speaker 8: helpful as possible. She wouldn't answer even the most basic
24:17
Speaker 8: questions like when did you start preparing for this hearing?
24:21
Speaker 8: She said things like well, for the best of my recollection,
24:24
Speaker 8: or I can't recall, or there was no skin off
24:27
Speaker 8: her nose. If she'd have just said, you know, I
24:29
Speaker 8: started preparing the moment I heard, which was six days ago,
24:32
Speaker 8: or whatever, she seemed to be intent on not giving
24:35
Speaker 8: any details in case she could somehow be tripped up
24:39
Speaker 8: on them at some later date in the hearing or afterwards.
24:43
Speaker 8: And that was just a disastrous tactic. She had repeaterdly
24:48
Speaker 8: asked about timelines and it turned out she didn't have them.
24:51
Speaker 7: It really was an embarrassment. You know, she was a political.
24:57
Speaker 8: Appointee of Joe and Jill Biden, was of close to
25:00
Speaker 8: them and respected and liked by them when she was
25:03
Speaker 8: in charge of then Vice President Biden's security detail. She
25:08
Speaker 8: obviously was not the right person for this job. She
25:12
Speaker 8: certainly wasn't the right person to represent herself in front
25:15
Speaker 8: of a congressional hearing. And I think it's probably very
25:18
Speaker 8: good that she goes.
25:19
Speaker 7: She's gone.
25:21
Speaker 8: That said, there is an enormous amount that still needs
25:24
Speaker 8: to be found out and interrogated about exactly what did
25:28
Speaker 8: happen that day at the Trump rally, because there are
25:32
Speaker 8: so many security failings that we now know that have
25:35
Speaker 8: come out. And as I said last week, this is
25:39
Speaker 8: you know, the world was just too close, by a
25:42
Speaker 8: couple of millimeters from something utterly catastrophic happening.
25:48
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it's very fair that representatives on both sides
25:53
Speaker 3: they are want to know what happened, because obviously they
25:56
Speaker 3: are all in danger if the Secret Service isn't doing
26:00
Speaker 3: what it needs to be doing. Now, one last topic,
26:03
Speaker 3: and we know Benjamin Netna who is in the US
26:05
Speaker 3: to mate with the government in relation to the.
26:08
Speaker 2: Ongoing war in Gaza.
26:09
Speaker 3: It's been reported that Kamala Harris is going to boycott
26:12
Speaker 3: netnya who's dress.
26:14
Speaker 2: But that's not all.
26:15
Speaker 3: Apparently pro Palestinian protesters have invaded the Capitol building. If
26:21
Speaker 3: this wasn't so serious, Douglas, it would just be the
26:24
Speaker 3: most epic political satup.
26:28
Speaker 7: Well, yes, but.
26:29
Speaker 8: I mean it is very serious because I mean here
26:32
Speaker 8: we see a very important relationship for America and Israel
26:37
Speaker 8: being put under strain, not by these nincome poop protesters.
26:40
Speaker 8: I mean they should all just be arrested as anyone
26:43
Speaker 8: else would be if say they broke into the Capitol building.
26:47
Speaker 8: But the thing of putting strain on it is that
26:50
Speaker 8: decision by current Vice President Harris not preside over the session.
26:56
Speaker 8: I think she's speaking to a high school somewhere in
26:59
Speaker 8: Vermont something at the time.
27:01
Speaker 7: When she could be presiding that joint session.
27:07
Speaker 8: Clearly she is making this more of a political point
27:11
Speaker 8: than it needs to be. There has actually always been
27:14
Speaker 8: a great bipartisan agreement in the US on the importance
27:18
Speaker 8: of the American Israeli relationship. I'm sure the Prime Minister
27:22
Speaker 8: nathana Who will speak to that when he speaks.
27:25
Speaker 7: On Wednesday, and we'll see.
27:28
Speaker 8: But's it is a snub actually by Kamala Harris and
27:32
Speaker 8: a very bad sign Netania, who's also meant to be
27:35
Speaker 8: meeting Joe Biden to express his thanks for Joe Biden's
27:39
Speaker 8: support since October. But it's not even clear if that's
27:42
Speaker 8: going to happen, because it's not clear if Biden's well
27:44
Speaker 8: enough to meet him. It seems so that according to
27:47
Speaker 8: reports today, So we'll see. But you know, it should
27:50
Speaker 8: be an important time from America and Israel to re
27:54
Speaker 8: emphasize the strength of that relationship, and if it is
27:58
Speaker 8: politicized by come Harris and others, it'll be to the
28:01
Speaker 8: detriment of both countries and a lamentable situation which should
28:05
Speaker 8: never have arisen.
28:09
Speaker 2: No, and I think there's plenty more to come out
28:11
Speaker 2: in the wash there. Thank you so much, Douglas Murray.
28:15
Speaker 7: Great pleasure.
28:16
Speaker 1: Thank you.
28:17
Speaker 3: Still to come left is losing it, including those fawning
28:20
Speaker 3: over Marmala.
28:21
Speaker 2: Harris and Adam B.
28:23
Speaker 3: Coleman analyzes the left's attempt to rebrand laugh and Kamala.
28:36
Speaker 3: Now it's time for left is losing it and as
28:38
Speaker 3: we barrel towards a US presidential election, the Dallas turned
28:42
Speaker 3: up on the partisan crazy and it is coming from
28:45
Speaker 3: absolutely all directions. In the aftermath of former President Donald
28:49
Speaker 3: Trump being shot, this is what the president of the
28:51
Speaker 3: American Federation of Teachers had to say.
28:54
Speaker 17: It is seldom a dramatic event or attack that lets
28:59
Speaker 17: fash in the door.
29:02
Speaker 18: The violence comes later after they are voted.
29:07
Speaker 17: In voting, it's still our best defense against tyranny and fascism,
29:15
Speaker 17: and it's our best offense to create the better future
29:21
Speaker 17: we dream of, and march.
29:23
Speaker 18: For progress is possible, but not guaranteed. When the history
29:33
Speaker 18: books are written about this moment, let them record that
29:38
Speaker 18: we the.
29:38
Speaker 4: People united, mobilized and voted down.
29:44
Speaker 5: This existential threat to democracy and freedom, that we continue
29:50
Speaker 5: the march progress, that we lay the foundation for a
29:54
Speaker 5: better future, and that we sought to create a more
29:58
Speaker 5: perfect union progress.
30:00
Speaker 8: It is possible.
30:02
Speaker 19: Kick marching.
30:09
Speaker 3: Hardly softening political discourse in the aftermath of an attempted
30:12
Speaker 3: political assassination. And if that isn't an advertisement for homeschooling,
30:16
Speaker 3: then I'm not really sure what is now. Moving on
30:19
Speaker 3: to Kamala Harris, who many are saying will be the
30:22
Speaker 3: Democratic nominee.
30:23
Speaker 2: It's fascinating to see how.
30:25
Speaker 3: The lefty media has ditched Old Joe jumping headfirst onto
30:29
Speaker 3: the Kamala train.
30:30
Speaker 13: I'm jumping out of my feet over here watching the
30:33
Speaker 13: people have been thirsting for this, and.
30:36
Speaker 9: I'll just say this, you know, and I'm with Tim, Tim,
30:40
Speaker 9: I'm jumping out of my seat higher than you, my brother.
30:42
Speaker 7: I'm just gonna say that.
30:44
Speaker 19: It was a twinkle in her eye. There was a
30:46
Speaker 19: kick in her step that you know when you're a
30:49
Speaker 19: vice president. You know, I don't You're not looks you can't.
30:52
Speaker 19: You know there's somebody above you, there's somebody you don't
30:54
Speaker 19: want to overshadow them.
30:55
Speaker 10: You are.
30:55
Speaker 19: And this was quite the coming out. And I got
30:58
Speaker 19: chills when she said, don't try I know your tape.
31:01
Speaker 10: I was blown away.
31:03
Speaker 19: I was like, I kind of fell in love with her.
31:04
Speaker 19: I thought she was smart, engaging, She's funny, fasting, twikle
31:10
Speaker 19: in your eye, punch you in the gun.
31:12
Speaker 7: I mean everything.
31:13
Speaker 2: You what.
31:14
Speaker 19: I just thought it was a great, great opening act.
31:16
Speaker 1: She looked completely comfortable tonight with the words she was speaking.
31:21
Speaker 1: They felt organic and genuine.
31:25
Speaker 3: Are we even living on the same planet? And of
31:28
Speaker 3: course a switch in the Democratic nomination wouldn't be complete
31:31
Speaker 3: without some blame landing with the Republicans. Apparently it's a
31:35
Speaker 3: racist to suggest Harris is a dei.
31:38
Speaker 19: Higher Republicans have gone so far as to call her
31:40
Speaker 19: a dei.
31:41
Speaker 7: Hire was just clad out racist.
31:44
Speaker 3: This is a pretty unusual allegation given I thought it
31:46
Speaker 3: was one of the few accepted facts.
31:48
Speaker 2: On both sides of the aisle. After all, no one.
31:50
Speaker 3: Has accused Kamala Harris of being competent. But let's it
31:54
Speaker 3: dial up the crazy a bit further.
31:56
Speaker 2: Apparently mispronouncing her name is a hate crime.
32:00
Speaker 16: Heard from inside Republican circles and right wing media that
32:03
Speaker 16: the heat campaign against Kamala Harris has begun. You'll notice
32:08
Speaker 16: they purposefully pronounce her name wrong, they say Kamala. They
32:13
Speaker 16: do it all the time. It is on purpose. But
32:16
Speaker 16: the talk is to start that heat campaign and get
32:19
Speaker 16: it going and start it churning.
32:21
Speaker 3: And over recent days and hours, more people are coming
32:24
Speaker 3: out to endorse Kamala Harris, the Clintons, Nancy Pelosi. Then
32:28
Speaker 3: there is Meghan Markle, who reportedly wants to endorse Kamala
32:31
Speaker 3: Harris as well. Megan is so lacking in self awareness,
32:34
Speaker 3: so she doesn't realize that her endorsement is probably more
32:37
Speaker 3: like a kiss of death. Perhaps just send her some
32:39
Speaker 3: strawberry jam and stay mum. And while the Democrat political
32:43
Speaker 3: establishment is getting used to the idea of presidential nominee Harris,
32:47
Speaker 3: this blow thinks the presidential nominee should be trans.
32:51
Speaker 15: I think we need a transgender president.
32:55
Speaker 2: And here's why.
32:57
Speaker 15: There is no greater struggle than the English trans You're
33:02
Speaker 15: constantly hated, You're constantly people wanting to unalive you because
33:09
Speaker 15: just because of who you are. If we had transgender president,
33:16
Speaker 15: the world would be a much better place and maybe
33:19
Speaker 15: all our haters might actually leave the United States instead
33:24
Speaker 15: of staying here. We the people run this country, not
33:31
Speaker 15: our presidents, not our congressman, not our Senate. Our constitution
33:38
Speaker 15: says we the people. So maybe who's with me? We
33:46
Speaker 15: need a transgender president. I'm up for anybody else who's
33:53
Speaker 15: going to be a candidate.
33:55
Speaker 3: Who knew a presidential election a change and nominate, and
33:58
Speaker 3: an attempted assassination could produce so much insane material. Anyway,
34:03
Speaker 3: there you have it. Joining me now is wrong speak?
34:08
Speaker 3: Publishing founder Adam B. Coleman Adam Kamala Harris has gone
34:13
Speaker 3: hard to secure the Democratic nomination in the days after
34:17
Speaker 3: Joe Biden announced his withdrawal.
34:19
Speaker 2: What's the latest and does it look like she's got
34:21
Speaker 2: that all stitched up?
34:25
Speaker 20: It seems like it, But there's a lot that can
34:27
Speaker 20: happen up until when we make it to the convention.
34:32
Speaker 20: You know, there's quite a bit of a possibility that
34:35
Speaker 20: they might stroll elsewhere, but there's a lot of momentum
34:38
Speaker 20: behind Kamala Harris. That might be the direction that they
34:41
Speaker 20: go at the convention. It seems to make the most sense,
34:45
Speaker 20: especially from a campaign finance situation. So I would say
34:49
Speaker 20: it's more likely that she'll be the nominee, but you
34:53
Speaker 20: never know what happens when it comes to the convention.
34:58
Speaker 2: And plenty of other names have been floated.
35:00
Speaker 3: But some of those perspective nominads, do you think they're
35:03
Speaker 3: either eyeing off the vice presidential nomination or just waiting
35:08
Speaker 3: holding their breath until next time.
35:11
Speaker 20: Yeah, the names that constantly come up like Gavin Newsom
35:14
Speaker 20: and other notable names. I think there's a likely chance
35:18
Speaker 20: that they're going to wait till next time around. I
35:19
Speaker 20: think someone who is likely to win a presidential race,
35:24
Speaker 20: like in a full length I don't think they're going
35:27
Speaker 20: to want to risk coming in with four months essentially
35:31
Speaker 20: until the election comes around to run an entire campaign,
35:36
Speaker 20: raise money, so on and so forth. I think it's
35:38
Speaker 20: a huge risk for someone who does have presidential ambitions.
35:42
Speaker 20: So that's why even more so, I think it's leaning
35:45
Speaker 20: more towards Kamala Harris. Pamala was alongside Joe Biden. For
35:49
Speaker 20: many voters, they're going to see that Kamala Harris is
35:52
Speaker 20: an extension of Joe Biden, but obviously someone who is
35:56
Speaker 20: younger and more alive than Joe Biden is. So I
35:59
Speaker 20: think it's an easy transition for the Democratic Party to
36:03
Speaker 20: move in her direction.
36:07
Speaker 18: Now.
36:07
Speaker 3: The withdrawal of Biden has definitely changed the landscape of
36:10
Speaker 3: the presidential race, that's for sure. Donald Trump has accused
36:13
Speaker 3: the Democrats of fraud over the Biden swap. Is this
36:16
Speaker 3: an acknowledgment that Harris could potentially create some issues for Trump?
36:22
Speaker 20: It's possible, but I think Trump has a point. You know,
36:26
Speaker 20: they went through an entire primary process, and obviously, you know,
36:30
Speaker 20: anybody with two eyes who's paying attention can see that
36:33
Speaker 20: Joe Biden was falling apart, you know, cognitively and literally falling,
36:39
Speaker 20: and so when it comes to one particular debate, all
36:42
Speaker 20: of a sudden, they want to change course, negating all
36:45
Speaker 20: the Democratic voters who went out and chose Joe Biden
36:48
Speaker 20: as their nominee, and pressuring Joe Biden because there was
36:52
Speaker 20: a lot of pushback from the Biden and Biden campaign
36:55
Speaker 20: before he left. So in many ways, I've called this
36:59
Speaker 20: a democratic coup. You know, they wanted him out because
37:03
Speaker 20: the public got to see what he actually look like
37:07
Speaker 20: in prime time, and now they get to put in
37:09
Speaker 20: place the leader that they want, negating all the people
37:13
Speaker 20: who are part of the party, who were part of
37:14
Speaker 20: the process. So you know, whether it's Kamala Harris or
37:19
Speaker 20: they do some backroom deals to choose somebody else, it
37:22
Speaker 20: kind of gets rid of the whole democratic process involving
37:25
Speaker 20: the voters.
37:28
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
37:28
Speaker 3: But at the same time, Donald Trump, you know, when
37:32
Speaker 3: Biden withdrew, he must have known that this was coming.
37:35
Speaker 3: I mean, that Kamala Harris attack had that hit the
37:38
Speaker 3: news wave is really quickly.
37:42
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, I think everybody. Everybody suspected that something was
37:46
Speaker 20: going on. There were rumors about Joe Biden leaving office
37:51
Speaker 20: for about a week prior, and actually I was pretty
37:54
Speaker 20: skeptical about him actually leaving because there was so much
37:58
Speaker 20: pushback coming from Joe Biden. Every time there is speculation,
38:02
Speaker 20: there is another press release that he's staying in place
38:05
Speaker 20: and that he's on the campaign trail. So I think
38:09
Speaker 20: if you're a good campaign, you prepare for multiple outcomes.
38:16
Speaker 2: Yeah.
38:16
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And the Democrats, I've been quick off the mark
38:19
Speaker 3: to frame Kamala as presidential. She took her nieceus for
38:22
Speaker 3: ice cream over the weekend and she's been referred to
38:25
Speaker 3: as Momala. How important is this repositioning of Kamala Harris
38:31
Speaker 3: in this campaign.
38:34
Speaker 20: Yeah, this is a massive pr campaign that's going on.
38:38
Speaker 20: There's a lot of excitement. Some of the excitement is
38:41
Speaker 20: just the juxtaposition of Joe Biden, who is very much
38:45
Speaker 20: so comatose like and here you have someone who is
38:49
Speaker 20: much younger, much more vibrant, smiles a lot, you know,
38:54
Speaker 20: just on the surface, seems like someone that you should
38:57
Speaker 20: be excited over. But Kamala has been hiding for quite
39:01
Speaker 20: some time and letting the PR team fill in the blanks.
39:06
Speaker 20: But that's the excitement of right now. We'll give it
39:09
Speaker 20: some weeks and when she actually starts speaking, if there's
39:12
Speaker 20: going to be a debate, which I would hope there's
39:14
Speaker 20: going to be a debate between her and Trump. If
39:17
Speaker 20: she's a nominee, we get to ask her tough questions.
39:20
Speaker 20: But in the meantime, she's going to do a bunch
39:22
Speaker 20: of fluff interviews by the mainstream media. She's not going
39:25
Speaker 20: to be challenged. She's going to be well prepped to
39:28
Speaker 20: show off her personality rather than her policies.
39:34
Speaker 2: And she might be well prepped.
39:35
Speaker 3: And obviously that talking point about her being younger that
39:40
Speaker 3: there has gone.
39:41
Speaker 2: All through the media very very quickly. But ultimately she's
39:45
Speaker 2: going to have to have a lot more than that.
39:48
Speaker 20: Oh yeah, absolutely, it's working right now. A lot of
39:53
Speaker 20: people are like, look how much money she raised in
39:55
Speaker 20: such a short period of time. Like I said, this
39:57
Speaker 20: is political excitement. It's going to happen. It's going to
40:02
Speaker 20: be like this, especially leading up to her nomination. So
40:05
Speaker 20: she's going to raise money However, there's going to be
40:09
Speaker 20: a point where it's going to slow down and people
40:12
Speaker 20: are going to ask questions, Okay, we're excited about you,
40:14
Speaker 20: but what do you have to offer us, even coming
40:16
Speaker 20: from Democratic voters, because remember they didn't choose her as
40:20
Speaker 20: the nominee, so she still has to win them over,
40:23
Speaker 20: and for some of them it's not enough to not
40:25
Speaker 20: be Donald Trump.
40:29
Speaker 2: Yeah.
40:29
Speaker 3: Correct, And I'm just interested to know in that campaign period,
40:33
Speaker 3: say that four months, say that she does get the
40:35
Speaker 3: Democratic nomination, when you think about the demographic that she's
40:40
Speaker 3: designed to appeal to, how markedly different is her campaign going.
40:45
Speaker 2: To be from what would otherwise have been a Biden
40:47
Speaker 2: led campaign.
40:50
Speaker 20: I think it's going to be different in a sense
40:52
Speaker 20: that she's going to appeal more to younger voters. You know,
40:56
Speaker 20: not too long ago, she was part of the BET
40:58
Speaker 20: Awards and a pre tape showing with Taraji p Henson
41:03
Speaker 20: that appeals to a particular demographic of people that Joe
41:06
Speaker 20: Biden doesn't necessarily appeal to. So, you know, by virtue
41:10
Speaker 20: of being younger and also by virtue of being a woman,
41:14
Speaker 20: she may appeal to a wide variety of people in
41:17
Speaker 20: a different way than Joe Biden was able to. But
41:21
Speaker 20: at the same time, this is going to come to
41:23
Speaker 20: a point where she's going to need to be challenged. She's,
41:27
Speaker 20: you know, this entire process because she's being picked. She
41:30
Speaker 20: hasn't been challenged. She hasn't had someone to ask her
41:33
Speaker 20: tough questions in quite some time, basically four years when
41:38
Speaker 20: she did the vice vice presidential debate. So in reality,
41:43
Speaker 20: in the past four years, she's been able to skirt
41:46
Speaker 20: any sort of criticism directly from the media or even
41:49
Speaker 20: addressing the public about something difficult.
41:55
Speaker 3: Now, lastly, and I've got a little under a minute
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Speaker 3: for you, but I know you support the return of
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Speaker 3: manufacturing to the US.
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Speaker 2: It has been a powerhouse in the past.
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Speaker 3: How does the outcome of a presidential election really impact
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Speaker 3: the US's ability to return manufacturing back to home soil,
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Speaker 3: I think greatly.
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Speaker 20: You have one particular issue. You have China as the issue.
42:19
Speaker 20: Donald Trump is bullish on China. Unfortunately the Democrats aren't,
42:24
Speaker 20: and that's going to be a key issue when it
42:27
Speaker 20: comes to actually bringing back jobs here. The second is taxes.
42:31
Speaker 20: Donald Trump is willing to give tax tax bricks to businesses.
42:35
Speaker 20: The Democrats haven't been that tax friendly and so that's
42:40
Speaker 20: going to slow down the opportunities to bring back manufacturing
42:43
Speaker 20: over to the United States.
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Speaker 2: Adam B. Coleman, thank you so much for joining us.
42:50
Speaker 2: This evening still to come.
42:52
Speaker 3: Elo Masters's son is dead, killed by the work line
42:56
Speaker 3: virus and the Allen government gets it wrong on women again.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is CEO of Women's Forum Australia, Rachel Wong.
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Speaker 2: Hi, Rachel Look.
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Speaker 3: I spoke about this topic on Monday with Chris Kenny,
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Speaker 3: but I still can't quite get over the fact that
43:21
Speaker 3: the Victorian government wants to include trans women in an
43:24
Speaker 3: inquiry on women's pain. I don't know about you, but
43:27
Speaker 3: I'm pretty miffed about the idea of biological men cosplaying
43:31
Speaker 3: about pain suffered by women and being indulged on an.
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Speaker 2: Issue that's as serious as this. What are your thoughts?
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Speaker 21: I gues's absolutely idiotic and expensive. I saw one woman
43:43
Speaker 21: comment that it's like saying that pain is basically a
43:48
Speaker 21: fashion accessory for men who want to be validated as women.
43:51
Speaker 21: I mean, including men in an inquiry into women's pain
43:54
Speaker 21: makes absolutely no sense. Women's and men's health conditions are
43:57
Speaker 21: completely different because of the way we're buy it. Logically, Wiet,
44:02
Speaker 21: I think that it's an absolute slappened the face to
44:04
Speaker 21: women whose health has been historically under research and undiagnosed.
44:09
Speaker 21: You know, we finally have this opportunity to really dig
44:12
Speaker 21: deep into what's happening with women's health conditions, and at
44:15
Speaker 21: this point the government just said, well, actually be it's
44:18
Speaker 21: going to conclude men in this as well. I mean,
44:20
Speaker 21: women are already you know, basically losing our own female
44:24
Speaker 21: only spaces, female only sports, female only services, and now
44:28
Speaker 21: apparently we're not even entitle to our own pain.
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Speaker 3: But the thing is ras you're I mean, ultimately we
44:35
Speaker 3: need to know what the results are from this study
44:38
Speaker 3: to be able to improve health care for women. If
44:42
Speaker 3: you're not putting the right information in, you're not going
44:44
Speaker 3: to end up with the right results.
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Speaker 21: One hundred percent. And that should be entirely of theous,
44:51
Speaker 21: especially to Premier Uson to Alan and Health Minister Mary
44:55
Speaker 21: and Thomas, who are both female, who know that women's
44:58
Speaker 21: health issues are very different to men's, and you know
45:01
Speaker 21: that these issues need to be researched, and if you're
45:03
Speaker 21: including men with completely different health issues, then obviously the
45:08
Speaker 21: inquiry is going to be tainted.
45:10
Speaker 3: And this is in the first time biological men have
45:12
Speaker 3: been allowed to run rough shot over women's issues. Australia
45:15
Speaker 3: E Safety Commissioner Julian mcgrant came out to accuse Donald
45:18
Speaker 3: Trump and his followers of being misinformation minds online.
45:23
Speaker 22: During his presidency, Donald Trump not only savagely abused foos
45:28
Speaker 22: online with impunity, but was identified as a major super
45:32
Speaker 22: spreader of miss and disinformation.
45:34
Speaker 3: But this same E Safety commissioner who appears to have
45:37
Speaker 3: been on quite the mission to censor factual tweets about
45:41
Speaker 3: trans women breastfeeding. At what point does this pendulum swing
45:45
Speaker 3: back to common sense after the narrative has demanded compliance
45:49
Speaker 3: with an obviously anti science position.
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Speaker 21: This position from Julian Mangrand is quite ironic, isn't it,
45:56
Speaker 21: Because she is someone who is basically saying that men
45:59
Speaker 21: can be women, that men can breastfeed, that it's a
46:02
Speaker 21: hate crime to say otherwise, And yet she's the one
46:05
Speaker 21: who's policing misinformation. She's probably not the best person to
46:10
Speaker 21: be doing that. And I think it really shows the
46:11
Speaker 21: issue with putting in the hands of one person or
46:15
Speaker 21: a team of people basically control over truth online. But
46:19
Speaker 21: you know, I think that we're already seeing a swing
46:21
Speaker 21: back to truth into biological reality. I think some of
46:24
Speaker 21: these issues, especially the gender ideology ones, have gone too far.
46:28
Speaker 21: When we started really speaking out strongly on these issues
46:31
Speaker 21: several years ago, there weren't many people speaking out. There's
46:34
Speaker 21: been a huge shift over the last few years. People
46:37
Speaker 21: are willing to rest their livelihoods and to.
46:40
Speaker 2: Get sued and et cetera. But they're still.
46:42
Speaker 21: Speaking out because they're absolutely sick of it. And so
46:43
Speaker 21: I think we've definitely seen a seed change on.
46:45
Speaker 2: This, yeah, absolutely.
46:48
Speaker 3: And even Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Muss said that
46:52
Speaker 3: he was tricked into giving consent for his child to
46:55
Speaker 3: go on puberty blockers, adding that he believes the Woke
46:58
Speaker 3: Mind virus figuratively killed his son. This is what he
47:01
Speaker 3: had to say in an interview with Jordan Peterson.
47:03
Speaker 1: So I was straightt into doing this, and it wasn't
47:10
Speaker 1: explained to me that puberty blockers are actually just sterilization drugs.
47:16
Speaker 1: So anyway, and so I lost my son essentially. So
47:25
Speaker 1: you know, they they're caught dead naming for a reason,
47:29
Speaker 1: all right. And so the reason that's called dead naming
47:32
Speaker 1: is because your son is dad. So my son is
47:37
Speaker 1: aber is Dad killed by the walk mind.
47:40
Speaker 3: Virus, and this shows that anyone, no matter how wealthy
47:44
Speaker 3: or worldly, can get caught up and caught out in
47:46
Speaker 3: the vagaries.
47:47
Speaker 2: Of gender ideology.
47:49
Speaker 3: You did mention or you just touched on it before,
47:51
Speaker 3: But are we really seeing more of that pushback from parents?
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Speaker 21: I think we are seeing the pushback, and I think
47:59
Speaker 21: having someone like or must seek out is going to, really,
48:02
Speaker 21: I hope, give parents a lot of courage to continue
48:04
Speaker 21: to do that, because someone with that kind of influence,
48:07
Speaker 21: someone who's probably one of the most intelligent people in
48:09
Speaker 21: the world, was captured by this ideology. You know, he's
48:13
Speaker 21: admitted that it was a mistake sign those forms, that
48:15
Speaker 21: he was tripped, but he's come out and he said that, so,
48:17
Speaker 21: you know, I think that that hopefully is going to
48:19
Speaker 21: be redemptive for parents to know that, no matter where
48:21
Speaker 21: they are on their child's journey in supporting them, that
48:24
Speaker 21: it's not too late to step back and reflect and
48:25
Speaker 21: to think, well, maybe this isn't quite right. Maybe I've
48:28
Speaker 21: been you know, misled by the medical profession. And I
48:32
Speaker 21: think they are the ones that do have a lot
48:33
Speaker 21: to answer for here, because they, of all people, know
48:36
Speaker 21: that human beings cannot change sex, and what they are
48:39
Speaker 21: doing to children and young people in the name of
48:41
Speaker 21: the sencitious ideology is an absolute medical scandal.
48:46
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And when you go back and think about even
48:49
Speaker 3: the things that JK. Rowling was saying, you know, even
48:51
Speaker 3: six months ago, twelve months ago, eighteen months ago, she.
48:54
Speaker 2: Was really at the forefront of this pushback.
48:58
Speaker 3: And it is good to say people like Keylon Musk
49:00
Speaker 3: another you know, senior and well known figures starting to
49:04
Speaker 3: push back on this because it's much more difficult for
49:07
Speaker 3: everyday people to be able to do that. Anyway, thank
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Speaker 3: you so much for joining us. Rachel Wong, that's it
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Speaker 3: for me, up next to his Newsnight, Good night,