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Miami survives, NFL Playoff thoughts, Bama Bob on the Playoff & Jeff Hughes previews Bears/Packers · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hi, good afternoon. Welcome.
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Miller and Condon on a football Friday.
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The Iowa Sports Radio Network. Trent Condon and Ken Miller are
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back at it until 2:00 here today.
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At that time, we'll turn it over to off the bench.
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Lucas Strain and Sean Roberts at that time from 2:00 until 5.
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Overtime Iowa from 5:00 until 6. Here's what's coming up on our
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busy program I hear this afternoon.
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We'll start at 12:25 with our buddy Bama.
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Bob Talk. College football recap last
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night with Bama. Preview tonight with Bama at
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12:25. Jeff Hughes writes the Bear's
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blog, owns the Bear's blog. We'll talk about the Bear's and
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the Packers with Jeff Hughes coming up at 12:45.
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Look forward to that game. It's tomorrow night we have, I'm
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just looking at the schedule to my left here.
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We do not have that game. The Iowa Wild play.
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What we do have, the early game, which is Carolina and the Rams
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as we'll have that one here. If you're out and about and
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driving around, you'll be able to hear that one at least for
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those of you listening to KX&O in the 1:00 hour.
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Tom Caker. We'll start things off on Iowa.
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We'll do the latest on the portal.
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We'll preview Illinois with Tom coming up here at one O 2 at 115
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Eugene repay covers Iowa State. Iowa State's got, you know,
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sneaker than than on looks on the surface type of game with
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the Cowboys in town tomorrow. I was thinking the exact same.
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Good. Afternoon, by the way.
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Yes, hello. To you, as I was going through
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and looking a little bit at Oklahoma State last night, I was
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like, you know, this squad, it's not just that they're off to a
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good start, they're 13 to 2. But I heard something from Steve
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Lutz, who's been around for a while.
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He's about Western Kentucky, been an assistant coach for a
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long time and let's mentioned in the preseason, going back to
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media day, we're going to be a lot better people think.
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Really. Yeah, he was pretty confident
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with his team in year #2. Now is that just bravado in year
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#2? Well, maybe somewhat, but you
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know what? I think he's backed it up.
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I mean, this team's two losses, Oklahoma, they lost to Texas
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Tech, but last time out was Tuesday night, they were at
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home. But UCF has got a pretty decent
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resume in their own right. They came in and beat him a
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double digit. So this is a better than
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average. Look, Iowa State should win the
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basketball. Yeah, I'm not trying to plant
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that seed. I'm just saying that Oklahoma
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State is going to be maybe a little bit more difficult.
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Have you seen the Ken Palm advance line?
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We anticipate line. Yes, it is 20.
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It's that big. It's. 20, which I was really
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surprised by because I went there after I was starting to do
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a little research on Oklahoma State.
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They play really fast. They're one of the fastest teams
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in the country in terms of adjusted tempo, so they're going
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to move it incredibly, really fast.
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They're going to make you play fast too.
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On the other end of the floor. They are allowing shots the
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third fastest in the country. Wow.
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So it's going to be a lot of transition opportunities, and
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this might be one. You're talking about triple
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digits. You're talking about putting 100
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on the board for the cycle. I think it's going to be an
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entertaining game. I do think they went
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comfortably, but like one O 388, you know, something like that.
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Mistake gives up 80. Eight well, it's I think it's
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going to because of the tempo. It's not going to be because the
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defense is awful or anything like that.
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Just that's the way that Oklahoma State well.
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Don't ask me about numbers because I thought this this
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football game last night was going to fly under the under
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end. Well, until the final play,
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you're good. Yeah, but it went over.
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It went over in the end. So we'll get to that in just a
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second. Let me finish the guest list,
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Eugene Repay. And then off to Vegas we will
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go. Mike Bom, VP of operations at
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Circus Sports and Circus Breathe.
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Look, it was they were going to turn lights on whenever it had
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Ole Miss won the championship, but they were really upside down
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on Ole Miss. They had some massive tickets,
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massive futures on Ole Miss to win it all, but that will not
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happen. So that's it's coming up on our
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program here today. So let's briefly talk about that
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game last night. What a football game.
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First of all, it really was a fun game to watch.
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A little back and forth. Carson Beck making plays, making
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enough plays in the football game to to get the job done as
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they did. Obviously Lacey going crazy and
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pulled his hamstring on that play.
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And you just wonder if he'd been able to, you know, go to that
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100%. He clearly wasn't coming into
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it, but it looked like it on that play.
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Beck making plays, Chambliss making plays, you know, 1
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aspect. And I think Bama might have
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brought him up. Either Bama or you because I
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know I didn't. This is Kickers Elite.
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Yes, he Canaro. Is that his name?
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Yeah. Boy, he's elite now.
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He missed one. He did hit the hit the way hit
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the the upright twice, one of them wearing through the other
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one was a doink. But this guy is unbelievable and
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as he got some strength in that leg, 58 and he had 10 yards to
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spare. And it's crazy just how kickers
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have evolved. It's amazing, isn't it?
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You know, we go from seeing a guy like that, obviously Aubrey,
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in the NFL, even a guy like Drew Stevens.
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Drew Stevens not a big guy. No, this is not Sebastian
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Jankowski at 255 lbs, you know, knuckling it through with the
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left foot. These are not real big guys and
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the way that they're pounding it.
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But I want to bring something up and it just put a smile on my
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face because I saw this just retweeted last night, Greg
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Sankey here about a month ago. How many teams that they should
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have in? Is that what you're talking
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about? Quality football game with two
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teams that have high, high quality wins.
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One of them actually won a game. The best win on the record this
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year is Alabama's win over Georgia at Georgia, the third
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ranked team in the nation because one and two have no
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losses. So I focus on the opportunity
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and I think their participation in the College Football Playoff,
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it's clear, but we're going to have to see what what happens
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today. I I actually think we deserve 7.
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I think the. Seven teams that are in the Top
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14. Half of the top Top 14 teams are
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from the SEC. That's an indication that this
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league is different. The expectations are different,
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the competition is different, and the rewards should respect
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each of those elements. All right, Greg Sankey, enough
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of the propaganda. It's over.
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Turn the clock back. It's it's no longer the case it.
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Is not the. Case they did dominate for a
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while you there's that's indisputable but now that
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everybody can get paid Yep playing field's level yes right
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and he was seeing the result and if anybody that's going to
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represent the the SEC not Georgia it's not Alabama it's
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Ole Miss and good for them good for them that's a that's a fun
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football team. I love the stories Chambliss I
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hope he wins his court case. I hope he gets an extra year.
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Why? Because I like watching him
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play. Okay.
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I've had and I like his story. I can't be.
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I do too. I like the guy, I like Diego
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Pavia story, I like watching them play.
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But enough's enough. How many years for chap will
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this be? 6 if he wins.
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Let's knock it. Off Well, Beck, Carson, Beckson,
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you're 7. Yeah, again, let's knock it off.
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It's too much. You know, if if if I could wave
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my magic wand, if I was in charge of the NC double AI could
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do one thing. I wouldn't do anything to
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football. Well, I would, but I only get
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one thing. But I only get one thing.
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I think I would prevent the pros from coming back to college
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football. That's where I would start.
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I mean that that's got to be that would be item number one
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because there is no item number 2 if you only get 1.
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So that's. Let's see how how many, how long
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do we have here? Well, we had a 2 hour show.
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We got a few guests coming up, but I have a long list.
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How about this? Let's start here.
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You have five years period and a story 5 years deal.
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Red shirt or not, you have five years boom injuries.
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Sorry you're done. Five years.
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That's it, start right there. That's the start. 16 team
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playoff. Every game until the
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championship is played in the home team.
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So. No, no semi final screw, OK.
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Who cares what these administrators that for years
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and years were wind and dying by the bowl committees and sewing
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out there and going to play golf and going on these great
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cruises. They don't need it anymore.
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You know what an athletic director makes these days?
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They don't need that crap enough.
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Kick them out. We don't need the bowl games
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part of the playoff system. Bowl games can still put on bowl
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games. They can still do that.
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They're not doing it with the playoffs.
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And they should be. And we should do that because we
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tuned in and watched this year. The numbers back that up.
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Old Yes. Miami should not have been
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played in Phoenix. We should not have Indiana,
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Oregon tonight. Doesn't Indiana deserve a home
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game out of that? Sure.
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Shouldn't this one? They've already proved it on the
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road against Eugene. Shouldn't the regular season?
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We we talk about the sanctity of the regular season Enough.
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Move on. There's another one.
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So we got 16. We got that.
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The last night was the Fiesta Bull.
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Apparently it. Was and tonight is the Peach.
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Bowl Yeah, I saw those ugly whatever color yellow Blazers
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that the Fiesta Bowl people were wearing in that one.
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Look, for for years, I was told Bob Dyer's tell me this all the
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time. When he retires, he wants to be
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a bull official, a bowl executive.
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Because you go around every weekend, you're in a different
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stadium, wined and dine. You get your ass kissed and and
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it's a hell of a racket. You play golf, you invite people
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to play golf. You go on cruises.
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As you mentioned, it is a great gimmick.
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It's a great gig if you can get it.
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But we'll see anyway. So we're going to get a game
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tonight, but I want to go to the NFL tomorrow because I have a
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scenario. We both pick Green Bay, so I'm
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not picking on your Bears. Is there a chance that the Rams
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host a game next week? The Rams host a game.
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Here's my So the Packers would beat the Packers would beat your
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Bears. There go the two seed, the
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Niners who you picked beat the Eagles.
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There goes the three seed. Carolina has a prayer.
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The five seed would be an ultimately the second best seed
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standing. So they would host the Niners.
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Yeah, it's not a not. Crazy, right?
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Absolutely not. And obviously the Packers would
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go out to the West Coast and take on Seattle.
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It's not without the realm of possibility that that could
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happen. A real shot, yeah.
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There is a real shot, I think. I mean, you like the Niners.
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I'm on the other side, but I see where you're coming from.
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It's the Eagles offense and the lack of offense.
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It's been putrid all year long. Love the defense.
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Obviously Purdy and company have a phenomenal offense, but it's
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the defense and it's the injuries that have held them
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back. I'm going to take the Packers,
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as we did yesterday, to win the football game and I don't think
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Carolina has prayer. They may cover, but that doesn't
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count. I go through and as I was
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putting together notes for today, I think you've heard me
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throughout the course of the season.
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There's just so many things to dislike with all these teams.
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So many. Every teams has a wart.
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Yep. Let's start with the one seats.
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Denver. You've said it yourself, right?
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There's a long list there. You go to the other side.
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Sam Darnold for the Seahawks. Bears, you can't have turnover
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luck. That defense is atrocious.
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The Packers are incredibly banged up.
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Rams, well, they're going down the road and likely might have
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to go on the road three straight times.
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Stafford cold weather on the road, not exactly been a calling
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card for him throughout the course of his career.
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Maybe the most complete team. Still, there's warts there.
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Carolina's Carolina girls Bills outside of Josh Allen and run
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the ball with Cook. Team's not good.
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It's not a good football team. Here's the team, though, that I
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kind of struggled with their opponent.
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It was Jacksonville and as I was going through and looking at it,
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I couldn't come up with anything that I said no Trevor Lawrence
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won a playoff game. He's already done it.
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It was a comeback against the Chargers, He did it and he had
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the Chiefs in Arrowhead on the ropes.
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His team did that. They've got a head coach.
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They got a head coach, they got a head coach, they got an elite
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kicker. As we go back to where we
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started the conversation with tickers tonight, how about this?
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Speaking of that, I found this one at DraftKings.
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Longest field goal in that game. In the game coming up this
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weekend. Jacksonville, Buffalo It's not
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an over under, it's just what team has the longest field goal.
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Oh, I think that's a cinch. Praters hurt right on top of
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obviously little is better. Cam Little's got a what, a 67
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and a 68 or 68 and 69. It's.
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Right around what? What are the pre seasons?
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Yeah. Yeah, 6768, I think.
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So advantage there coupled with I don't know if Prater is going
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to be able to go. I don't think he is there.
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There was talk, I saw an article in a Buffalo outlet that was
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talking about the practicing more 2 point plays this week
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because of that possibility. So they're going through with
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that minus one O 5. Wow. -1 O 5.
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Seems like easy money, Trent. Too good to be true.
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Well, and we don't do a whole lot of props, but that one was
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no. I'm with you.
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But Jacksonville was the one team I mean, and we've talked
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about the rest of the teams. 49ers injuries again for them.
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Eagles lack of offense, Chargers terrible offensive line,
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Patriots easiest schedule. Texans what?
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Well, defense is taking a step back.
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Offensive line is not very good. Steelers are the Steelers.
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You know what Dan Jacksonville is doing this without, and I'm
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not sure what kind of player Travis Hunter is going to be,
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but he was the second overall pick in the draft, right?
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I love the way they run the ball.
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Getting Myers from the Raiders was a huge boot.
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Parker Washington killed Denver, Denver lost one game at home.
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It was Jacksonville, it was Jacksonville.
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They can run the football. They've got an underrated
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defence. You mentioned Cam Little, the
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kicker. I don't know what their wart is.
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I really don't. I think Jacksonville, as we've
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said, can represent the AFC. So does that mean I need to go
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open up my circus sports app? I would buy exact as I already
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have. Rams, Jaguars Jaguars Rams.
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Yeah, well, yes. Those are the two teams I, I
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think are the most complete teams.
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I agree. I also threw Seattle in with
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Jacksonville as well. You know I would.
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Yes, I do. They can get.
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There, but I keep the Jags. I keep the Jags in the Super
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Bowl exact and they're big prices.
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This is why, yes, I'm, I know when I bet like this, if I win,
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I'm going to three of my tickets are going to go in the trash
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bin. But that's OK.
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When you're getting 30 or 60 to one in some cases, you know,
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it's all. You just need one of those.
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I think Jacksonville can represent the AFC.
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I don't think it's crazy. Jaguars to beat the Rams 56 to
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1. How about that?
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Rams to beat the Jaguars 3535? Yeah.
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That's good. Couple of half of you to place.
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And if you love the Rams, you can get them at what is it, 4?
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Are they 5 to 1 to win the Super Bowl?
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But if you find the team they're going to beat, look what that
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does to your ticket. All of a sudden, from 5:00 to
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1:00, now you're up into 35 to 1.
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Now you got to find the right team.
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But you don't have to just use one team.
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You can pit the Rams over the if you love the Broncos, them, if
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you love the Patriots, whoever you like in the AFC.
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And obviously, as the seed gets higher, the prices get bigger as
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well. That's it, circa, circa.
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So biggest upset, biggest pressure is there.
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I mean, the answer's Josh Allen, right?
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Is, is, is the pressure? Is there anyone that comes
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close? I think in a certain way because
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yes, Allen's the answer, but I think Drake May and the Patriots
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also, we feel like we don't know a whole lot about them.
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Their fan base is supporting I. Know his wife likes to cook.
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This team is better than playing the easiest schedule in the NFL
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since 1976 or whatever the metric is.
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You have that component to it. And we know first time
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quarterbacks in the playoffs, the history is not very good on
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this front. Herbert's been there.
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Herbert has also blown leads in the playoffs.
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But I think that the pressure, if you had to say somebody other
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than Allen, that would probably be the one I'd point to.
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Yeah, I agree with you. I don't know.
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I don't think there's pressure, no, the Eagles to repeat, no, I
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don't. I don't see that it's it's Josh
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Allen, boy, there's a lot of love for the Steelers on Monday
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night already. A lot of love.
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A lot of people think that the Steelers team is going to wipe
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the floor with them. I'm not one of them but they do
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get the biggest weapon back in DK Metcalf and Aaron Rodgers.
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With DK Metcalf, Aaron Rodgers gets rid of the ball so damn
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quick and he didn't have Metcalf for the last two games.
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But here's the thing, Texans defence with Stingley and
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company. I mean this is an elite group
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back. There they are.
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They're the best defence in the. NFL I think they are, Trent, I
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think yes, I think they are. I think the best defence is
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still standing. Eagles, obviously in the NFC,
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Texans in the AFC. Denver's got a good defense.
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Rams have I got some problems? I think the three best defenses
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and maybe I'm maybe we're selling the Jags.
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Short, maybe. They're not bad.
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They're not bad. They don't.
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I mean, I don't know, A couple of the weakness would be a
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couple of the Seattle defense, a couple of the.
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Seattle, Seattle. Seattle.
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Denver. Houston.
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Yeah, and Eagles, Yes. Oh, absolutely.
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Eagles are good. Alright, Bama, Bob, coming up on
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the game tonight, you picked the game in our little contest.
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You took. Who did you take?
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I got Oregon in the points. Yeah, I got the 3 1/2.
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Do you remember the first game? I do very well on NBC if memory.
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Was it? Yes.
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And it was kind of a close game, right?
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I mean, it wasn't Oregon. It's not like they trailed
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throughout. No there.
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Was the fourth quarter Oregon just hit the skids.
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I mean it was a tight game and and Indiana pulled away through
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the pick 6 maybe got something. Oregon just couldn't do
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anything. I believe in that offensive
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line. I believe in Dante Boer second
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time through. I think the rematch component is
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definitely going to have help. There's 3 1/2 basically across
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the board in this one, and I think Landing is a really good
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coach. And I think with this kind of
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motivational edge second time, I think that this team's going to
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be ready. It's not going to be an
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onslaught that we've seen so often with India.
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I think it's going to look a lot like the Big 10 championship
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game. And remember that Big 10
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championship game, missed chip shots, awful inside the red
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zone. It comes down to that.
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They got to score touchdowns in the red zone.
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If they get a couple opportunities, finish those
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drives. If Oregon does, I think they can
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win this game. We can't wait to watch it.
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We'll talk about it next. Bama Bob's going to join us.
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Miller and Condon underway still to come this hour, Jeff Hughes,
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more on the Packers and the Bears.
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He owns the Bears blog.com. The Bears blog.com underway on a
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Friday. Miller and Condon on the Iowa
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Sports Radio Network. 1225 Millerine Condon welcome back,
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Iowa Sports Radio Network. Still to come this hour, Jeff
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Hughes from the Bear's blog. Bears, Packers 7:00 Saturday
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night, Soldier Field, cold temperatures, maybe some snow,
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maybe some winds. We'll get into that coming up
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here in about 420 minutes. But right now, let's get our
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buddy Bama Bob in here. Let's recap last night, preview
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tonight. Miami marches on.
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Bama, Bob, how are you? I'm doing great man.
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I can't wait for bears Packers. I mean that is yes.
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How fun is that? No, I'm.
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With you, no, I totally agree. That moves the needle here.
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Obviously with our regional teams in our backyard and going
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to be a fascinating football game.
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The good news for Trent and I selfishly, well for Trent,
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obviously he's a Bears fan, but we get one of our regional teams
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to advance to the divisional round of the play offs.
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So that's all I look at it. Anyways.
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Let's get into last night and what a football game it was.
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I thought for a long time that the low scoring that kind of
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thought we were going to see was going to hold, but that wasn't
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the case. So let's start with the very
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last play in the football game. I know it's never called.
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I know it's never called, but it was there was clearly seemingly
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at least I saw it pass interference, not going to get
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that call. Do you understand why Ole Miss
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fans are perturbed this morning that that they think that the
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officials missed one? But again, you never see it
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called at that point. Yeah, I'm not terribly and
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obviously I'm not terribly perturbed about it and I don't,
19:14
I want to think that I wouldn't be if the call some more call
19:18
had gone against Alabama and it's for several reasons.
19:21
I understand if it's Pi you call it no matter when it is in the
19:24
game, right. I think it was kind of clear.
19:27
But even if it's called that, was it a 15 yard penalty?
19:30
No, they set up at the two in the end zone.
19:32
The two in the end zone I'm pretty.
19:33
Sure. Are you sure?
19:34
I think it's 15 and. No 15, except if it's in the end
19:37
zone. OK.
19:40
I. I thought it was just 15 period.
19:44
It's normally 15 but I think if the foul curls occurs in the end
19:48
zone they set up shop at the 2. OK.
19:51
I wasn't aware of that rule. I'm 15 yards because I don't
19:54
know. 15 yard penalty even if it's in the end zone?
19:56
Yep. So it would have split the
19:58
difference. Basically that was wrong.
20:01
Yeah, but so again, not going to no guarantee that, you know,
20:04
that, yes, they get another chance to get another play.
20:06
I understand all that. The other thing is they had and
20:10
I don't really like this explanation.
20:13
And even though I'm about to give it myself, as you know,
20:16
well, you know, look at how many chances I squandered during the
20:18
game. You know, they could have gotten
20:19
in the end zone. They kicked field goals instead.
20:21
And I understand that And and that is a reasonable argument.
20:26
I think however you got, you know, whatever play is in front
20:30
of you is that that's kind of how you have to rule it at the
20:32
time. But I don't I didn't have a big
20:35
problem with the non call. I don't know that anybody really
20:38
would. I think there's a lot of
20:39
obviously a lot of emotion on Ole Missus side, not only for
20:42
the game, but everything else is going on that we've talked about
20:45
around Lane Kiffin and how bad these players, how hard they
20:49
played, how much they wanted it. And so I think a lot of that was
20:54
just kind of boiling over because they know this is it.
20:56
I mean they got they do. I hope shameless gets a six
20:59
year. I'm not really big on a lot of
21:01
this stuff, but Ole Miss is going to really have a lot to
21:03
run back. If these guys get these six year
21:05
waivers from the NCAA, they're going to be and good for them.
21:09
You know, they're not shopping themselves around or whatever
21:12
like the. Kicker's coming back.
21:14
Kicker, Oh man, is he a weapon. That is a that is a draftable
21:18
kicker right there. Generally, you know, you kind of
21:20
stay away from those. That's that's maybe a he might
21:23
be worth a fourth round pick depending on, you know, who
21:26
needs what when when this time comes around.
21:28
But I just thought I don't have a problem with the non call.
21:32
I wouldn't had a problem with the π if you wanted to call it
21:34
either. I think it was.
21:35
But I know why it's not called. But man, they they did try to.
21:39
I thought the one I was about to lose it, the face mask on the
21:43
sideline. I thought that was initially
21:45
ruled π I didn't see the face mask because I was now I'm
21:49
saying, OK, they're trying to make themselves a story here.
21:52
But but that was a face mask and that was the right call.
21:57
But yeah, I, I didn't. I hope I don't.
22:00
To me, it doesn't take away what was just a great game.
22:04
I think both teams, it was physical.
22:07
Miami was the more physical team at the end.
22:10
And I think that was that was starting to show, you know, the
22:15
play that Beck scored on. I mean, those guys, those D Lima
22:18
were just exhausted. They didn't have anything left.
22:21
Where did they run? Like almost was it 85 plays, 88
22:25
plays, whatever. It was crazy the amount of plays
22:28
they were out there to have to defend.
22:29
So but listen, old miss, you give them all the credit.
22:33
You know, they couldn't carry the SEC flag any further, but
22:36
they did a they did a remarkable job while they were at it.
22:38
And I think you got to Carson Beck some credit too, because
22:40
I've not been a fan of his and that last drive and they had
22:44
three consecutive drives that were 13 plus plays.
22:47
And that's how you That's Mario. Chris, that's Miami football.
22:51
It is. It is now, right?
22:52
It's not the old days of of, you know, the insufferable Michael
22:56
Irvin. And by the way, they didn't show
22:58
him last night, did they? No thank.
23:00
Goodness, they did right, you know, and and I'll tell you, I
23:03
was I, I almost, I, I didn't know exactly how to, to
23:07
articulate it, but they showed a shot of Eli Manning in the
23:11
booth, right? Where is Ole Miss?
23:12
Are are in, I guess in a box, not the booth box, right.
23:15
And you know, he had his Ole Miss thing.
23:17
And I was just thinking, I'm like, could, could 2 superstar
23:22
Hall of Fame players represent their album orders in different
23:27
ways. I mean in more different ways,
23:30
Marvin. I mean, you know, urban down on
23:32
the sideline gesticulating every, you know, all the stuff.
23:36
I swear I saw one picture of him where he had a headset on behind
23:40
Cristobal one time. And I'm like, really?
23:43
And then here's Eli. He's just up there.
23:45
Yeah, he's he's as invested. It's just not as demonstrative
23:48
and everything else. But I just, the contrast between
23:51
those two at one point just kind of struck me.
23:53
I'm like, wow, I don't, I know which one I'd rather have.
23:56
But you know, Urban's passionate.
23:58
You give him that. Yeah, no doubt.
24:00
All right, let's move on to tonight and what we expect we're
24:02
going to see is this a high scoring game trend?
24:06
What did they put up in there? The first time that they played
24:08
in the in the mid 50s someone was at 30213024.
24:13
Right in that range. Let me pull up the schedule here
24:15
quick. It was 30 to 20/30/20 was the
24:18
final in that football game. Mentioned the pick 6, can't
24:22
obviously afford that. That was at the beginning of the
24:24
fourth quarter 35 yarder. But then from there it was
24:27
back-to-back scoring drives as it was 2020 at the time after
24:30
the pick 6. But we're just couldn't do
24:32
anything in the second-half. I think this is going to be
24:36
certainly early on, maybe lean to a first half under maybe a
24:39
little bit more feeling out process for both of them.
24:41
Not sure about full game but maybe would lean that direction.
24:44
Almost 48 and a. Half Pam, I said earlier I like
24:47
Oregon and the points here. Getting the 3 1/2.
24:49
I think this is going to be another really good game that
24:51
comes down to the final whistle. I agree.
24:56
I think a couple factors here. I think Indiana is going to have
24:59
a majority of the crowd. We talked about Oregon last
25:04
week. I mean, it is, I don't know how
25:05
many fans there were really in the stadium down in Miami for
25:09
the game against Texas Tech, but you may get a few more now that
25:13
this, you know, it's in Atlanta. But again, you know, Indiana
25:16
fans, they're going to go wherever, wherever they need to
25:19
because I mean, they've never been here before.
25:20
And saving up money for like 60 years.
25:22
They have for 50 years. Yes, it's been inherited down
25:25
multiple generations. I think.
25:27
I think it's going to be 7525, at least for Indiana.
25:31
I think they're going to be loud.
25:32
So I think that is going to be a factor.
25:34
I think Oregon kind of has to hang in early, if you will,
25:39
because if we saw it against Alabama and listen, let's not
25:42
get ourselves right. Oregon is a much better team
25:44
than Alabama was this year. But you see how they can get
25:49
away, how games can get away against against Indiana
25:52
defensively, offensively, everything.
25:54
They've just got it all. I think I think Indiana is is
25:59
the obviously they're the favorite and they should be the
26:01
favorite million of the total. It's 48 1/2 Man, that's a good
26:06
another good line. I think I'm with you, Ken.
26:08
I thought I thought the under or whatever it was last night, it
26:10
looked it looked good for about 3 1/2 quarters.
26:13
And then I think both teams just kind of ran out of steam and
26:16
that's another thing I can get to in a minute.
26:17
But in this game, I mean 2 great quarterbacks, right?
26:21
Everything I've seen, these are like what?
26:23
The first two players off the board they are in the draft and
26:26
most mock drafts, certainly the first two quarterbacks.
26:30
What somehow Ty Simpson being third on that list.
26:33
Not quite sure how that works out, but I'll get to that.
26:37
Another. I'm not sure the one and the two
26:39
are going to work out, but we'll see.
26:41
Yeah, it's going to be interesting.
26:42
I think there's going to be teams, obviously, you know,
26:44
teams trade up or down or whatever to get one of these
26:46
guys. But the game itself, I mean, I
26:48
expect another physical. This is another one of those.
26:52
It's similar to Georgia, Ole Miss, right?
26:54
The the familiarity. They know each other.
26:56
They played each other. They played earlier the season
26:59
out in Eugene. I don't know if that helps one
27:03
team or the other. I just think that there
27:05
shouldn't be any surprises. I mean, both teams know what
27:08
they're going to get. I just like I have not seen
27:10
anything all year. Indiana can win however you
27:13
want. They can score, they can they
27:14
can slug it out, they can play defense.
27:18
However you want to play, they can play and they've got an
27:20
answer for just about everything.
27:21
But I think this is I think this is another slugfest.
27:24
I think Indiana wins. It wouldn't be surprised if it's
27:27
a little outside that margin, you know, 30 or 90, thirty,
27:31
2721, something like that. I could see maybe a late field
27:35
goal or whatnot, but I think this is another slugfest and
27:38
it's just going to be again, new blood, right?
27:40
You talked about it yesterday. These four teams, I know
27:43
Indiana's number one, but they made the playoffs last year and
27:46
kind of went out with a whimper. Both these teams, and as did
27:49
Oregon, they was in one seed, right, last year and went out
27:52
with a whimper in the round of 8.
27:54
So I love the new blood. We're going to get a hell of a
27:56
championship game in Indiana, Miami championship game, guys.
28:00
The physicality in that game is going to be old school.
28:03
That happens. And in Oregon's, Oregon's not a
28:06
finesse team by any means. I just, I have not seen anything
28:08
that tells me that they can just line it up and slug it out with
28:11
Indiana. I haven't seen any team that
28:13
really can do that this year. And this is where you get in the
28:17
playoffs. So I was talking about earlier I
28:19
the fourth quarter last night, right, you saw some guys getting
28:22
tired, you saw some guys going out with injuries.
28:25
This is where the schedule when you're playing an NFL schedule
28:28
in the college, this is where it kind of catches up to you in my
28:31
opinion, because you've got three or four playoff games
28:33
after maybe a championship game and then after a regular season.
28:37
It's starting to ask a lot of these guys and I know they've
28:39
got great, you know, sports science departments and
28:43
everything else. But this is where, in my
28:46
opinion, you're going to start seeing some injuries because of
28:49
fatigue, because of the quality opponents you're playing
28:51
constantly, the travel, whatever you want to say.
28:55
I hope we don't see it tonight because both, I mean this, this
28:58
has got a chance to be a classic.
28:59
I think it will. I don't see any reason why it
29:00
won't. But I think Indiana wins is
29:02
going to set up a hell of a championship game.
29:04
Final thing for me, Bama, and down there in SEC territory as
29:07
you are, this will be the third consecutive year that we will
29:10
not even have a participant from the SEC and potentially
29:14
back-to-back to back Big 10 champion winners.
29:17
Is there a reality setting in? Is there a frustration?
29:20
What's happening down there in SEC territory?
29:22
How are they explaining this one away?
29:25
Well, clearly Georgia can't carry the candle anymore.
29:27
I mean, that's the problem. I mean, it is a bit of a
29:31
concern. I say a concern.
29:32
I mean, listen, while the SEC was dominating and I understand
29:37
the narrative, right? Well, now that everybody can pay
29:39
their players, you know, I don't, I mean, there may be a
29:42
little bit of truth to that, but I think if you think there are
29:45
other teams that weren't paying players along with the SEC, then
29:48
then you're naive. However, I think it has leveled
29:52
the playing field. I think as much as anything,
29:54
it's the coaches, right? I mean, look at landing, look at
29:56
the guys we got tonight and the guys we had last night, right?
29:59
Cristobal, I mean, he's he was given time at Miami and he's
30:04
given patience. The one thing the SEC does not
30:07
have is patience for coaches. If you don't win in three years,
30:11
you're gone. I mean, and they don't build.
30:13
You know, I can't, I can't tell you how many coaches LSU is
30:17
paying or Auburn has paid in the last, you know, 5-6 years.
30:21
And at one time Auburn had 4 football coaches on their
30:24
payroll. They're still playing buyouts
30:26
too, earlier this I believe last year.
30:29
So is it a concern? Maybe a little bit, but it's
30:35
clearly changed. I mean, you can call it whatever
30:37
you want for whatever reason you want, but there has been a
30:39
little bit of a paradigm shift. And I think NIL has contributed
30:42
to that because it used to just be when Nick Saban was running
30:45
roughshod down here, it was what it was about going to the NFL
30:48
and that was it. And if you wanted to go to the
30:49
NFL, that was your best shot to go.
30:52
Well, now it's it's yeah, it's about that.
30:54
But it's also about getting paid for right now.
30:57
And teams like Oregon and Indiana have deep pockets.
31:01
Maybe it's just one booster, right?
31:02
But it's one booster that. Mind spending 20, thirty, 40
31:05
million bucks a year to try to win and that's all it takes is
31:09
one guy Texas Tech same thing. Those are teams that really
31:12
under the old system wouldn't have a sniff and now they're
31:15
getting one. But it's starting to get, it's
31:18
starting to get a little bit concerning, like you said,
31:20
because that's going to be 3 years in a row that you don't
31:22
even not only did they not win, they didn't make the
31:24
championship game. So I think this is starting to
31:26
be a little bit of a pattern. We will preview quickly at 1:30
31:30
or so on Monday what I'll look ahead to a week from Monday in
31:34
the National Championship and we'll talk to you on Monday.
31:36
Enjoy the game tonight. Yep, take care guys.
31:38
I appreciate it. Good.
31:39
To talk to you. So I want to go back to this
31:41
touchdown or this passer fierce in the end zone because I know
31:45
I'd seen it before. Here's the rule.
31:47
You ready for the rule? You're more so right, But but
31:51
I'm going to give myself a little bit of a wiggle room here
31:54
in college football. If defensive pass interference
31:58
DPI in the end zone results in a ball being placed at the 2 yard
32:01
line if the snap was between the two and the 17.
32:04
All right, that makes sense, right?
32:05
So if they if you snap the ball, you start half the distance, the
32:08
goal, you place the ball at the 2.
32:11
But it says if it's an obvious touchdown denying foul, like
32:15
grabbing receiver in the end zone, it becomes a spot foul at
32:18
the 1 yard line. That's not what that was,
32:21
though. It wasn't you're right, but but
32:23
you're right. But I knew I'd seen it before,
32:25
but that wasn't the case last night.
32:27
No, it would have been a 15 yard last night.
32:29
And I'm glad they didn't call it because they never call it or
32:31
very seldom call it. We'll take your time out.
32:33
Come back. We will be joined by Jeff
32:35
Hughes, the Bears blog, The Bears blog.com for Jeff.
32:40
That's next, Miller Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
32:58
I'm Maury Condon. Welcome back Saturday in the
33:02
park. Saturday it sold your feet.
33:04
I. Wonder if you were going to pull
33:05
that? Oh.
33:05
I love Chicago, a big fan of Chicago back in the 70s with
33:09
what was his name, Sotera. Peter Sotera Peter Sotera.
33:12
Let's get Jeff Hughes in here. The Bears, blog.com, Bears,
33:16
Packers It's Saturday night and away we go into the playoffs
33:19
with this match up. Jeff Hughes and I know I speak
33:22
for Trent, that we both can't wait.
33:23
Counting down the hours to 7:00 tomorrow night.
33:26
How are you Jeff Hughes? It's good to speak with you
33:28
again. Good to talk to you guys.
33:30
And if you haven't seen Larry David's movie he made for HBO,
33:33
Clear History, one of the funniest uses of the band
33:36
Chicago you will ever see. They are a prominent plot point
33:41
in Clear History. So your listeners check out
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Clear History on Max. You will thank me.
33:46
I absolutely will because I love Larry David and I'm going to say
33:48
Happy New Year to you, even though he'd get mad about it.
33:50
But he was. Way too late for that.
33:52
Yes, way too late for that. I'm going to put that one on the
33:55
list. Well, before we get into this
33:57
game of this match up, Jeff, we haven't talked to you a ton this
34:00
season, but this has been so entertaining.
34:02
And as you've got to know me in the last 15 years that we've
34:06
been talking together, you know, I'm certainly not the most
34:09
optimistic guy. A lot of negativity with this
34:12
organization and even these last two games, you know, I've looked
34:15
over, I got a kindergartner now I was in kindergarten the last
34:18
time the Bears won a Super Bowl. So we've been having fun with
34:20
that. But this is as been as an
34:22
enjoyable of a season. Even the years where they've got
34:25
the number one seed, they've been 15 of 1 they've they've had
34:28
play playoff games over these last 40 years.
34:31
This has been as enjoyable for me.
34:33
How about for you as you watch this squad?
34:35
The season I compare this to is 2001.
34:40
This is a season. If people don't remember 2001,
34:43
it wasn't just that the Bears won a bunch of games.
34:46
They won a bunch of games. Implausibly, they won
34:49
back-to-back games on the interceptions in overtime by the
34:52
same guy. Like it was an absurd season.
34:57
When you come into a season with a first year head coach, with a
34:59
second year quarterback, you expect it to be bumpy.
35:02
You expect them to have a learning curve, a long process.
35:07
I did not expect them to be this much fun.
35:10
And I've said to you guys for years, and I've been writing
35:12
about this for years, I was tired of watching a football
35:16
team trying to win 13/9 every week.
35:19
I was tired of watching a football team where if the other
35:21
team got into the 20's, the game was over.
35:23
If the other team got up 10 points, the game was over.
35:26
This team all season long. It didn't matter who the
35:29
opponent was. It didn't matter where the game
35:31
was being played. The ball was going to be in the
35:34
hands of one of the quarterbacks with a chance to win in the last
35:37
two minutes. And when the Bears had that
35:39
opportunity, more times than not, they won the game.
35:42
And trying to. I'll second this.
35:43
Was there a more entertaining football game this season than
35:47
Bears, Niners? And I didn't even care that they
35:49
lost. I mean, it was just the kind of
35:51
entertainment product I've been begging for for years.
35:55
And Ben and Caleb have produced it in one season 1 season.
35:59
Are they ahead of schedule, would you say?
36:02
I think they're ahead of schedule, certainly as an
36:04
offense, but that is a product of 1 of the great draft classes
36:07
in the history of the organization.
36:09
They're ahead of schedule because of Kyle Manungai and
36:11
Luther Burden and Colston Loveland and Ozzy Tribbio.
36:14
They're ahead of schedule because those guys aren't just
36:16
good rookies. They're already good players at
36:19
their positions and are only going to get better.
36:22
They've moved sort of the veteran presence on the offense
36:25
out the door. The Duke kids are coming in.
36:27
They've got to do the same thing on the other side of the ball
36:30
come this offseason. But they're I had a schedule
36:33
also because I don't know what happened on the bye week.
36:37
I think there should be a 30 for 30 made about what happened on
36:40
the bye week. Whatever been changed early in
36:43
this season, the quarterback, the offensive line, the run
36:46
game, everything improved and we have seen this quarterback
36:50
improve week after week after week.
36:53
Is he a full picture? No, and nor should he be
36:57
expected to be. But you know who he reminds me
36:59
of? Guys, I haven't heard this
37:00
comparison much. Reminds me of John Elway.
37:03
Sometimes he'll be just scratching your head, but the
37:06
end of these games, he's lethal. He and he's going to go for
37:09
everything and he's not going to, he's not going to take the
37:12
dink and dunk. He's going to take the 40 yard
37:14
bomb because he thinks he can make every throw.
37:16
And this season, he's kind of proving that he can.
37:19
That was always calling card winning, winning in the fourth
37:21
quarter, comeback wins. That clearly was it.
37:24
Did you? When you go back to the draft
37:26
and it was kind of Warren still on the board and Loveland's on
37:29
the board, I am Mia culpa. I thought they made an egregious
37:32
mistake. I would have taken Warren every
37:34
single time. Not that he's not a good player,
37:37
but I just wasn't. I wasn't on board with Loveland
37:40
taking the steps that he has. They've got.
37:42
Not that the Colts don't have something, but the Bears have
37:45
certainly found their tight end. I mean, one thing they
37:49
prioritized in this draft was seemingly speed, and that's
37:53
something that Ben sort of made the hallmark of his offense in
37:56
Detroit. Listen, I didn't know much about
37:59
Colston Loveland, right? I watched a little bit of
38:01
Michigan last year, but I didn't know much about him.
38:04
Ty Warren, for folks like us on old fuddy duddies, reminds us of
38:08
like Mark Bavaro. So we look at him and we say
38:11
that's the prototypical tight end, big body guy stands on the
38:14
end of the line matchup nightmare over the middle.
38:17
And Daniel Jones clearly recognized that because they
38:19
used them brilliantly the first half of the season.
38:22
Colston Loveland is this new modern tight end.
38:25
He can block, he can do the job that the old school tight ends
38:29
can do. But let's be honest, he's a wide
38:31
receiver and that's how they're going to use them.
38:34
And I'm not a fantasy player and I know, but I know a lot of your
38:37
listeners probably are. I'd be very surprised if we get
38:40
to August next year and folks aren't strongly considering
38:45
Colston. Loveland is the most valuable
38:46
tight end in fantasy football drafts.
38:47
Because if this is year one, I can only imagine what year 2
38:52
will look like. Especially considering this is
38:54
the point I want to make about Colston.
38:56
Lovely. When I see a quarterback leaning
38:59
on a player 4th down after 4th down after 4th down, that tells
39:04
me there's trust there. And if he's got to trust in him
39:07
now as a rookie, I just think this gets bigger and bigger as
39:10
the years go on. In our final couple minutes
39:12
here, Jeff at the game, give us a breakdown what it's going to
39:15
take for the Bears to get this one.
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They were long stretches where Green Blade certainly outplayed
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them in the split of the season series.
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What are a couple of the keys to the game for the Bears to get
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the win Saturday night? The key for me is how does
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Dennis Allen approach this offense if if he sits back in
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coverages and allows the Packers to have easy runs on first down
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and that mid range throw, which Jordan loves very good at, if he
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allows those kinds of plays, the Packers are going to keep the
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ball all night. And this game is all about Bears
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possessions. We have seen it when they get
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the ball, they do special things with it, especially late in the
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games. But late in these games they've
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had the ball more. Cannot let this team dominate
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time of possession throughout the first half and have another
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one of these games where it's 13 three at half time and the Bears
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have to come back eventually that magic wears off.
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The Bears have to get the ball, keep the ball, but they've got
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to at least take some shots on defense to force Love over the
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top. Because if they if the if the
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Packers, this is a number to watch.
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If the Packers were in second and four all night, the Bears
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were in trouble. If the Packers are in second and
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four, those are going to be first downs, 2-3 minutes off the
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clock, and they'll be able to wind this game down.
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Can the Bears then get the big turnover, the big penalty,
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something like that? Yeah, they've been doing it all
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year, so why can't they do it on Saturday nights?
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But that luck will run out at some point.
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So I think they've got to somehow stop that Packer run
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game on early downs, force Love to convert third and eight,
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third and 9. You'll have better chances
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there. And then when they get the ball,
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they got to score. I think this game is going to be
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one in the high 20s, barring weather.
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So I think that's got to be the objective for the Bears.
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You've got to get to that 28 number, and if your defense
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can't hold that, so be it. Well, let's make a plan of doing
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this going forward here if they get by, if they get by the
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Packers this week, Jeff used the Bears blog, the Bears blog.com.
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Jeff, thanks for jumping on. Enjoy the game.
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I know you will appreciate it. Jeff, good to talk to you.
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The Coors are in the fridge. I'm ready to go.
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Boy, well done. Jeff used a bear's blog.
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