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Vikings Dominate in Week 3, Carson Wentz long-term starter? Peach Fuzz Beer | TSH Ep. 106 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of This Goal Hop.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Evan and I'm Austin.
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  Speaker 1: We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like
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  Speaker 1: drinking beer, talking about the bike.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, And tonight I had to spin the wheel of
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  Speaker 2: purple punishments the first time. Only one of us has
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  Speaker 2: had to do it that so far this season.
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  Speaker 1: So far, this season, I feel like your punishment could
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  Speaker 1: have been worse. But man, the Vikings looked great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely worth it because I love seeing
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  Speaker 2: Isaiah Rodgers looking like an MVP out there. But I
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  Speaker 2: do think we kind of disagree on the quarterback situation
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  Speaker 2: so far.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was an interesting discussion that we had.
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  Speaker 1: Only time will tell in my opinion. This beer though,
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  Speaker 1: Stompbox Peach Buzz. Yeah, it was delicious gray beer. Yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but clicking the wheel doesn't mean anything. Feeling the
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  Speaker 1: We paid up on our bet. Yeah, that was the
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  Speaker 2: week and said something to the tune of oh man,
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  Speaker 2: can I say to prolong the spinning of the wheel.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get this right now. Austin picked the
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  Speaker 1: Vikings to lose to the Bengals. They won, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: get into that because they won handily. I picked the
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  Speaker 1: Vikings to win that game, so I'm safe today, don't
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  Speaker 1: have to spind but I looked ahead it next week.
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  Speaker 1: We're split on our picks, so one of us will
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  Speaker 1: have to spend next week too. But today it's you, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you know what to witness that win. I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: okay with it. So it's been updated it's been updated,
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  Speaker 2: I believe, yep, So.
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  Speaker 1: All right, bring it on. Oh man, the punishment is
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  Speaker 1: winter gloves.
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  Speaker 2: Wear winter gloves, so I think we have Oh, these
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  Speaker 2: aren't bad. We've got some winter gloves here.
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  Speaker 1: Those are mine, Those are like I wear those.
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  Speaker 2: This is an iteration from one last year where we
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  Speaker 2: was it socks that we wore for the whole episode. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: so this is going to be difficult because I have
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  Speaker 2: not opened my beer yet.
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  Speaker 1: I can help you with that.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, it's a part of the punishment.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, man, you might I at least have to try, right,
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  Speaker 1: you can try.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I guess I'll be wearing winter gloves. These
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  Speaker 2: kind of have a little grippy on them, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: still gonna I'm gonna two hand the beer.
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  Speaker 1: They're also kind of old, so like they're they're they're
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  Speaker 1: pretty well loved at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Some holes in their comfy, but it is going to
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  Speaker 2: get uncomfortable at some point, Like I can probably hands
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  Speaker 2: get warm pretty quick.
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  Speaker 1: So well, I'm ready to crack open this beer because
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  Speaker 1: I want to try it again. I just had it
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  Speaker 1: this weekend. But I also want to watch you struggle
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  Speaker 1: to drink it with gloves on. So Stompbox Brewing is
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  Speaker 1: not a brewery we've featured yet, we.
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  Speaker 2: Haven't had one of them.
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  Speaker 1: I looked at our list. They're right here in Davenport, Iowa.
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  Speaker 1: A cool little local spot. They are like guitar themed,
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  Speaker 1: so all of their beers are have like a like
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  Speaker 1: either a guitar or like an effects pedal type of
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  Speaker 1: vibe to it. And this one is an effects pedal.
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  Speaker 1: It's a peach fuzz. So this is their peach fuzz
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  Speaker 1: peach Cobbler sour. And we tried it. My wife and
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  Speaker 1: I went there this past weekend and this was a
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  Speaker 1: super good beer. So I'm excited for you to try it.
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  Speaker 2: All Right here, I'm officially gonna try to open this.
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  Speaker 2: So these are gloves. They're not mittens, so that that'll
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  Speaker 2: probably help my case a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But should have gotten mittens. Oh man, can you get
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  Speaker 1: under the tab? I think maybe my fingernail might be
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  Speaker 1: able to Oh oh, I heard a crack.
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  Speaker 2: We got it, We got the job done.
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  Speaker 1: Nice. Oh no, yeah, these things are juicy. Mine hit
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  Speaker 1: my computer.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna use my glove to clean up the
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  Speaker 2: couple of drops.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, maybe, So this is technically a sour beer,
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  Speaker 1: but it's it doesn't really like hit like a sour
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  Speaker 1: for me. It's more of a I don't know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what I would compare it to. It's really good.
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  Speaker 1: I think you're gonna like it. Peach can smell sour.
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  Speaker 2: I can smell it from here. I haven't brought it
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  Speaker 2: up to my face yet.
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  Speaker 1: It's sweet, it's warm, it's it tastes like peach.
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  Speaker 2: Cobblet so and that's kind of time irrelevant as well.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like cobbler is an autumn type dessert.
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  Speaker 1: It's late September, mid to late September now, so we're
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  Speaker 1: getting in a fall.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm actually proud of myself for that difficulty
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  Speaker 2: of poor. There was about twelve times I thought I
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  Speaker 2: was gonna drip everywhere and my screen may need like
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  Speaker 2: a wipe at some point because it's fine right now.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, that was that'll work. Sorry to use your glove.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. As a I've probably i've probably spilled beer on
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  Speaker 1: them before, like snow blowing in the garage, school school,
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  Speaker 1: snow blowing snow from the garage, the beers in the garage. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: snowblowers in the driveway.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's drink beer. It's a little more
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  Speaker 1: sour than I remember it being over the weekend, but
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  Speaker 1: it's still really good.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm assuming when you had it you had it
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  Speaker 2: on draft, right, We.
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  Speaker 1: Did have it on draft, and I was drinking something
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  Speaker 1: else and just took a sip of this. My wife
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  Speaker 1: ordered this.
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  Speaker 2: This definitely, to me, is a sour It is. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: it's very very sweet, but also not like bad because
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  Speaker 2: it's sweet. I like it. It's got some peachy vibes.
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned that it would be fall kind of flavored,
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  Speaker 2: but no, this is straight up. It's a warm weather drinker.
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  Speaker 2: It's nice and sweet and to me light it's really good.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't. It doesn't make me think of sitting by
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  Speaker 2: a bonfire.
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  Speaker 1: See, I get opposite a bit. I definitely kind of
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  Speaker 1: feel that like the warm fire vibes bit from it.
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  Speaker 1: But to each their own.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll drink this anytime.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like this a lot. This is actually really good,
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  Speaker 2: which is surprising to me because it is so sweet
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  Speaker 2: and I don't usually go for the sweetness. But yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for bringing it. Thank you Stompbox
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  Speaker 2: for making a good one. I can't wait to have
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  Speaker 2: the rest of what we've got here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's get into this game. This blowout win
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  Speaker 1: against the Bengals. What a fun game to watch. My
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  Speaker 1: brother in law Jason was actually there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh really yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's also he and his dad had purchased tickets
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  Speaker 1: a while ago, and so yeah, it was pretty fun
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  Speaker 1: I think for them to be there together. Apparently they
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  Speaker 1: got pretty good seats. They were like on the fifty
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  Speaker 1: yard line in the lower level somewhere I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where exactly what we.
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  Speaker 2: Should probably see if you can send us a pictures.
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  Speaker 1: I texted him and I'm like, dude, what a game
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  Speaker 1: for you to be at? That is? That is awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Well, especially after watching what we watched against the Falcons
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  Speaker 2: the week before, it was probably like a hoof, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if I want to go. Yeah, and knowing
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  Speaker 2: you know, backup quarterbacks were going to be in and
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: injuries and all that fun stuff. But yeah, that's it
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  Speaker 2: ended up being a great game to go to. I'm
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: pretty jealous. Actually, yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Well let's talk. Let's start by talking about the backup
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks you had. Carson Wentz in for injured JJ McCarthy,
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: and you also had Jake Browning in for injured Joe Burrow.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Vikings fans got vindication for the you
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: never should have epencuty clip that Jake Browning is infamous
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of years ago. I feel like he
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  Speaker 1: probably made himself into a whole bunch of memes he did.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that gif gif. I saw that gift a
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  Speaker 2: handful of times in the past day or so.
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  Speaker 1: So. Yeah, So Carson Wentz played really well. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he played outstanding. I don't think he's like, it's
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  Speaker 1: not even like Sam Darnold level yet, but he managed
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  Speaker 1: the game well. Fourteen to twenty four, one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: seventy three yards, two touchdowns. He had a one twenty
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  Speaker 1: nine point eight rating. My initial thoughts were, he executed
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  Speaker 1: the script really well in that first drive that marched
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  Speaker 1: down midfield, scored the touchdown, and then he kind of
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  Speaker 1: seemed to cool off after that. He didn't turn the
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  Speaker 1: ball over. He took a few sacks that I was
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: a little frustrated by, and I wish he would have
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  Speaker 1: just thrown it away. But other than that, he seemed
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  Speaker 1: to play pretty well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I do think at one point it was funny
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  Speaker 2: that we were very clear that we've seen the last
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  Speaker 2: of mobile Carson Wentz because you remember like that was
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: he was almost like a culpepper, like you know, big
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  Speaker 2: dude when he was drafted, you know, a handful of
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: years ago. Big dude could pass it. But also it
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: was electric in the run game. And at one point
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: he tried to break free to try to get a
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  Speaker 2: first down or something and he got run down by
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  Speaker 2: a defensive tackle. Nothing bad happened other than he only
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: gained a yard or two. But yeah, I think in
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  Speaker 2: his you know what is he he's like thirty two.
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  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, something like that.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, he's he's no longer very mobile. He kind
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: of looked like can be Kirk Cousins out there for
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  Speaker 2: a second. But other than that, I was I was
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  Speaker 2: okay with what he gave. He didn't do anything to
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  Speaker 2: lose the game, and when he needed to, he played
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  Speaker 2: well and executed. Like you said the script that first
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  Speaker 2: drive of the game when they came down and scored
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: a touchdown pass to Josh Oliver. That drive was assisted
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  Speaker 2: by a few pretty good penalties from the Bengals, but
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: all the Vikings did was end it with points to
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: start the game off. So but I did text you
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  Speaker 2: after a while there was there was a pretty good
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: gap between that touchdown and then pretty soon after that
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: was the man of the show, which we'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: Isaiah Rodgers. He had that pick six. But after that
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  Speaker 2: pick six, the game overall kind of got pretty boring.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I even text that to you, like, yeah, this game
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: has been boring ever since an interception for a little while,
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: and then it heated up again and well.
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  Speaker 1: Like right before halftime, they turned the ball over twice. Yeah, again,
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  Speaker 1: within like ninety seconds. They turned it over with like
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  Speaker 1: ninety to go, and then the Vikings got it scored,
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  Speaker 1: and then they turned it over with like thirty seconds
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  Speaker 1: to go. It was like they don't I think you
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: texted this to me three or four times. The Bengals
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: don't want to win this game. Yeah.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: I tweeted that and then like retweeted it a few times.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: But yeah, what you're talking about there. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was either like seventy four seconds or seventy six seconds.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: They said the romo. I think said it on the broadcast,
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  Speaker 2: Like the Vikings have scored two touchdowns in seventy six seconds,
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: and my oldest daughter she heard that, she like, ran upstairs, Mom.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: The Vikings just scored two touchdowns in seventy six seconds.
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  Speaker 2: It was funny. But yeah, they definitely blew the game
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  Speaker 2: away at a certain point. But yeah, to get back
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  Speaker 2: to the first point, Carson Wentz, I think he played fine,
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: nothing to be upset about. But also I'm not sitting
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: here thinking like, oh man quarterback controversy, Like I don't
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  Speaker 2: think Wentz played good enough to keep JJ on the
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  Speaker 2: bench right now as it sits right now.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I want to come back to that. I think
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  Speaker 1: there's some good discussion to be had there, and we
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: might be on opposite sides of the table there, which
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  Speaker 1: is okay, But I think we need to give credit
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  Speaker 1: where credit is due. Isaiah Rodgers played the game of
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: his life, perhaps the best game any cornerback has ever played.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: I think everybody's seen it by now. The Pro Football
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  Speaker 2: Focus stat that apparently point nine. Yeah, he's the first
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  Speaker 2: either the first person or the first defender ever to
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: get the first player yeah yeah, to get a ninety
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  Speaker 2: nine point nine perfect grade from Pro Football Focus. I've
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: seen his stats anywhere. There're somewhere, but I don't have
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  Speaker 2: it right in front of me. But he had two touchdowns,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: two force fumbles, an interception, like one allowed catch for
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: like two yards. Yeah, just an incredible performance and one
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  Speaker 2: that I mean, there's no question he's defensive player of
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: the week, and stats that he might not have to
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: play again this month and he should be defensive player
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  Speaker 2: of the month, you know, like just allay of that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I kind of looked him up a little bit
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: because I didn't really know too much about him. I know,
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  Speaker 1: we picked him up in the off season, but he's
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: got a kind of an interesting history. He was drafted
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  Speaker 1: I think like sixth round or something like that by
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: the Colts in twenty twenty. He was kind of a
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: spot starter. He never really had that like breakout season.
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  Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, he started all three games that he's played
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: for the Vikings, and then he was suspended in twenty
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: twenty three for gambling, so he sat out the whole season,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: which I didn't know, and then the Eagles picked him
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: up and he played in the Super Bowl. So like,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: this dude's kind of been around and I think throughout college.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: In the early part of his pro career, he was
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: known as a returner and he really gashed some teams
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: in the punt return kick return game, and that's where
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: he got to really showcase his speed, and he showed
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: that in both of those return for touchdowns yesterday. Like, yeah, man,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: he just has some wheels. That kid can move. So
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I'm glad to have him on the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think Kevin O'Connell even said something either on the
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  Speaker 2: sideline in an interview or afterwards in the press conference
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  Speaker 2: that like, yeah, Isaiah, he wants to return, like he
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: wants to be a returner, but he's too important as
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: a defender to try to risk him out there. I'm
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: super excited to have him. I know Brian Flores again,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: everybody knows this, but Brian Flores was super jacked to
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: be able to get him and was like pounding the
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: table to sign Isaiah Rodgers in free agency. I say,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: sign him, you know, lock him up now, give him
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: a long term contract now because I don't know how
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: old he is. But for a guy that yeah, I
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: think that gambling mistake that he made, which I mean,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: if you're an athlete, don't gamble on sports, Like that's obvious,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Like I shouldn't to take any explanation for that, but yeah,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: it seems like he learned from that and that kind
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: of derailed his career a little bit. And now he's
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: finally not just like an afterthought, like he's he's a
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: starter on the Vikings and hopefully will be for a while.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: So a question that I had was, and I only
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: have one player listed here, but I think there's a
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: handful of players that could be added to a list here.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: How much did it help having namely Harrison Smith the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: hitman back, but also like Andrew Van Ginkel was back
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: in the lineup on the defensive side of the ball
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: for the Vikings, And I feel like there was more
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and I may be blanking on them, but like, those
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: two guys in particular are huge, and you're currently missing
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: your your green Dot Blake Cashman due to injury, yep,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: But how much did it help to have a couple
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: of those guys back for Isaiah Rodgers to have this
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: huge breakout game.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I think he can't even qualify it how much it helped.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: It's so immensely important to have Harrison Smith on the field.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I saw a few highlight plays just on Twitter today
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: where it like specifically pointed out Harrison Smith right before
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the snap, running up to Ivan Pace Junior and like
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: getting him set right. And then all Ivan Pace Junior
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: did two seconds later was get a tackle for loss,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: probably as a direct result of Harrison Smith running up
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and like telling him, like, hey, you do this something
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: they haven't had for the first two games this season.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: And that's something we talked about last week with having
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Blake Cashman out, You're missing that. You're missing that green dot,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: like you just said, the guy that kind of sets
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: the defense, the quarterback of the defense. And I think
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith, while he's not the green dot, he definitely
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: is that immense veteran presence. I think I saw Van
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Gingle only played like eight snaps.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: He didn't play much, but when he was in he
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: definitely had an impact.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: He got two sacks, like and on top of that,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: it seems like Dallas Turner had his best game as
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: a pro yesterday.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he did.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Which if you're gonna be you know, limiting Van Ginkel's
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: snaps for any reason, or even Jonathan Gernard, having a
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: guy like Dallas Turner to be able to fill in
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: that gap at least right now, he's twenty two years old.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: He was a first round pick, but he's starting to
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: show flashes. And again, it's one game where he's looked okay,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: and he hasn't looked terrible the rest of his games,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: but this was probably his best game. It's encouraging to
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: see and it's only going to get better when Blake
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Cashman is back. Hopefully. I know they put him on IR,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: which is a minimum of four games that he has
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: to be out. I don't know much about if he's
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: supposed to be out longer than that, but hopefully not
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: too much longer than that. So when Blake Cashman comes back,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: get ready because this defense is going to explode even more.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this defense is so fun to watch. It was
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: really cool. I watched the interview of Harrison Smith in
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the locker room after the game, and they asked him like, hey,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: when Isaiah Rodgers had that pick six, you know you
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: got your your hand up on it, like, you know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: did you see something? He goes, oh, yeah. I was
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a little bummed at first because I thought it was
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: just deflected. But then I turned around and looked him like,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: oh they caught that. That's awesome, And then he ran
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: it back for a touchdown. And I don't know, you
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: just get the sense like Harrison Smith was just one
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: happy to be out there playing football again after being
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: out for a couple of weeks and dealing with whatever
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: he was dealing with, which, at least to me, is
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: still kind of a mystery. And I don't know that
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: most anybody really knows.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't seen any like official reports other than you.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: I think he's kind of health your private about some
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: of that too, which he has every right to be.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: But then too, like he didn't even like like want
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: any credit or anything like that. He was just like
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: deflecting it all, Like what what a humble dude, Like
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: he was happy to be back. He obviously made a
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: huge impact on the defensive play of our team and
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: gives credit to this kid who just absolutely balled out.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: We've done it a few times throughout the history of
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: the show where we've taken a few minutes to specifically
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: just dote on Harrison Smith. But let's do it again.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Put him in the ring of honor right NOWEP retire
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: his number the second he says I'm retiring. It a
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: dual retirement. Bring Paul Krause in on that yeah, I
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: know Paul Krause is getting up there in age. I'm
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: not saying I want Harrison Smith to retire soon, because
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, let's face it, this is probably his last
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: season anyways. But man, I hope when he does retire,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: they do do the whole ceremony where they bring in
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Paul Krause and they retire Harrison Smith and Paul Krouse
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: duel twenty two's. They can do that tactfully, and I
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: think Harrison Smith is the kind of guy that's like
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: who would welcome that, like, yeah, let's do this together,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: rather than I want it to be about me, although
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: he deserves it to just be about him too. He's
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: got he should be a Hall of.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Famer, I think.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: I hope.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I think he will be.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I hope the voters that should know this game more
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: than anybody else know that they need to vote for him.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: And I'd be saying that if Harrison Smith was on
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: any other team. He just real ball Knowers know about
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith and know that he's a real one. And
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: it's not just longevity. Yeah, he's played a long time,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: but he's been consistently good every year he's been out there.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: He's just a good dude too, Like it would be
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: shocking to hear oh, he's been arrested, Like I wouldn't
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: even believe it. Not that every anybody is perfect, but
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: he just seems like a good dude and you want
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: good things to happen to him. So he's the ultimate Viking.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: He has chosen the Vikings many times, even though he
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: probably could have gotten bigger contracts elsewhere a few times,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and the Vikings keep choosing him too, So it's just
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: a good relationship. We love Harrison Smith.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's the episode. All right, Well, you can't
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: talk about anything else. No, I agree with everything you said,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: and if not one of those things becomes true, then
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: that's like that's a crime. I mean, all of those
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: things you listed off I think are very very appropriate
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: for a guy that's played so well throughout his career.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: And it's kind of scary because at the time when
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Jared Allen retired, we could have said most of the
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: same things about him. I mean, I know, Jared Allen's
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: a little bit more colorful and he had more of
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: a past before he came to the Vikings, but I mean,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: for the most part, good dude, consummate, player, you know,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: great on the field and off the field, And it
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: took him five years of eligibility plus before he finally
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: got inducted in the Hall of Fame.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: This year.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: He's there now, but it was starting to get scary.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: And I don't understand why he.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Had some success. I mean, most of his success was
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: with the Vikings, but he had had some success with
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs and with the Bears, and I forget where
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: else did he play Carolina. Yeah, So anyways, not ready
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: for Harrison Smith to be done. This could be the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: last hurrah. We'll see. One other thing I really want
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: to talk about because I think this is kind of
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: a sneaky good thing that happened in the game that
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: not really anybody's talking about because of the Isaiah Rodgers
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: stuff and because of the backup quarterback stuff. Jordan Mason
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: quietly had one hundred plus yards and two touchdowns.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And I even wrote in our notes here as I
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: was writing these out, like it seemed insignificant. And if
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: you would have asked me, like right after the game
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: was over, if that was a big deal, I wouldn't
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: have been like, no, Isaiah Rogers.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but looking.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Back on it, that's a big deal. The Vikings have
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: struggled to have one hundred plus yard rushers in a
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: game since Dalvin Cook left.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it hasn't been great.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: It's just we've lacked the consistency of that really good
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: running attack since Dalvin Cook left the franchise. And not
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: only did Jordan Mason gain I think it was one
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixteen yards or something like that, but he
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: had two touchdowns. Yeah, and those two touchdowns were they
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: weren't necessarily garbage time touchdowns, but they weren't like gotta
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: have them touchdowns either, but he still got them. And
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's a really good start for this Vikings
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: team and for Jordan Mason specifically, with kind of the
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: issues that they've had so far offensively trying to find
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: their offensive identity. It's good to know that this guy
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: can do it. And I think against a pretty decent
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: defensive line.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah. You mentioned it hasn't been great
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: running wise since Dalan Cook hasn't been Dalon Cook anymore.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: And we know Aaron Jones had one thousand rushing yards
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: last year and looked pretty good. But to me, Aaron
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Jones was like a cherry on top. Every time he
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: did something good, it wasn't like and somebody may be
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: able to point one game out to prove me immediately wrong,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: but it never felt like Aaron Jones was a game
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: wrecker some like the reason the Vikings won games last year.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: He was just consistent and good and helped. Now, I
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: do think the best way to keep your offense on
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: the field and avoid three and ounce. Yeah, you're gonna
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: get flashy plays and explosive plays every once in a while.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: You know, the ninety seven yard touchdowns to Justin Jefferson
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: against the who was the forty nine ers last year.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Those will happen every once in a while and they're amazing,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: the pick sixes from Isaiah Rodgers. But the thing that
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: tears down defenses and keeps offenses on schedule and in
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: the game is the six yard run, is the twelve
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: yard run. Is not getting a tackle for a loss
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: three times in a row and then you're punting. So
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: that run game really does open up the rest of
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the offense. And you can't pass if there is no
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: run game, not easily. And we see that every once
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: in a while with teams that are supposed to be great.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: If you don't have a run game then, I mean,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: look at the forty nine ers. They have one of
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: the best running backs in the league and Christian McCaffrey,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: but what happens every time he's injured. The Niners aren't
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: that great. So Jordan Mason, if all he does for
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: the Vikings is give him one hundred and sixteen yard
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: games and a touchdown or two to you know, be
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: the cherry on top, awesome. Just keep keep the offense
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: moving and then every once in a while JJ is
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: gonna throw that bomb to Justin Jefferson, hopefully it's JJ.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And then when you get Aaron Jones back healthy too,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: like then you've kind of got the double headed monster
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: that a lot of the other teams. I mean, having
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: that two headed attack at running back is definitely in
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: vogue right now. The Lions are doing it really well
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: with Jamir Gibbs and David Montgomery. The Bears are doing
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: it with DeAndre Swift, and that is funny. They're handing
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the ball off to DJ Moore, which is weird.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: So I watched a lot of the Bears game yesterday
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and it felt like DeAndre Swift, he felt like he
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: was gaining yards left and right, and he's gonna have
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: this big game. And then at the end of the game,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I think he had like forty yards, so which is
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: not insignificant, but it really felt like he had much
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: bigger impact on the game than that. But yeah, it
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: goes to show if you can have the right forty yards,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: you can really like if you get a bunch of
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: two yard games that all go for first downs, boom,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: that is game breaking. That is amazing. So yeah, I'm
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing more. Right now, I think when
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: everybody's healthy, I think Aaron Jones is RB one, yeah,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: and then Jordan Mason is not quite RB two. He's
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: probably like RB one B. But I mean, if you
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: keep having games like this where Jordan Mason alone and
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: I know Xavier Scott had some rushing yards, even Cam
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Akers came in a little, it had some rushing yards.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: But yesterday it was Jordan Mason's day. And if he
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: keeps doing that, maybe you switch. Maybe Aaron Jones is
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the change of pace guy. I don't know.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: All right, So let's get back to a couple of
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: things that we would do quite a bit the last
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: couple of years. We haven't done it yet this year
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: but that's all right.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: It's been a weird year so far.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: It so he's good to get back into things. Let's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: do roses and thorns and game balls. We can start
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: with roses and thorns, all right, my rose, I mean
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: you're gonna pick obvious.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Probably just gonna be both of our roses, right, the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Isaiah Rodgers, I mean yeah, yeah, and the defense as
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: a whole, but just to be able to ruin an
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: NFL team's day by and they kind of seem fluky
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: and maybe there's a little bit of luck that goes
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: along with it, but like you're not, it's not like
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: he made the interception happening, but he caught the ball
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: and ran it back. He punched the ball out of
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Noah fense hands and picked it up and ran it
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: back like a little bit of fluke, a little bit
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: of luck, but a lot of skill. So that's my
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: rose is that the Vikings have I almost said we
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: the Vikings have already have done that a game breaker
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: and somebody that if he played every game like that,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: he'd be MVP, you know, an MVP worthy player on
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: the team. When we weren't talking about them all off season,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: we might have said like, oh, yeah, these guys are
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: excited and we'll see how he does. But I mean,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: we probably talked about cornerback as a position of need,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: which it kind of still might be. But yeah, my
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: rose is the defense and Isaiah Rodgers being able to
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: break the game.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would go with that one. I'm gonna
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: go a slightly different interaction. Not that that one's bad,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: because it's definitely a rose for sure, but I'm gonna
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: go with something I saw Dustin Baker tweet. He said,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to quote it exactly, but he
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: said something along the lines of the Vikings are a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: good team. Bad teams don't have blowout wins like this.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Good team just have blowout wins like this, And so
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: to me, that restores my faith, especially after an abysmal
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Week two loss to the Falcons where it just seems
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: like nothing was going right. For the Vikings to come
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: back and have a game like this.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to open my second beer and it's it's happening.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: It'll happen, I promise.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: But remember, I'm how's the sweat level right now?
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: The warm? But I'm not sweaty yet, and I'm not
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: giving up on the spear the first one. I don't
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: know what I did. I'm also trying to avoid it
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: sending some droplets, but keep going. Sorry, I don't want
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to interrupt your all.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: That to say that's a rose for me is to
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: have this huge rebound. That's what I called last week.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: You know, when we were making our final predictions, I said,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: this will be a rebound. This will be Oh, you're
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: gonna cheat and use your resources.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not cheating. I'm using resources.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: There's a bottle opener in the drawer and he just
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: pulled it out.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a screwdriver at first, and it's
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: not like it's helping right now. It's there.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: We bottle opener that has like a screw drill. It
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a tool set. I think that I got.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Oh that's cool.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Anyways, that's my rose. The Vikings are still a good team,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: and we saw the difference that only a handful of
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: players can make. Christian Darisa, Harrison Smith, Andrew Van Ginkle.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: You get guys like that back, yeah, and they can
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: really make a difference. You're pouring that like right over
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: your mouth.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Well I was pouring it right over our audio recording
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: equipment for a second. So it's like I'd rather.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Close the drawer on that. I'm impressed though. It's a
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: good poor with the gloves on.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: It's it's not for lack of effort. Yeah, that's a
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: good Rose. I would say if I had an honorable
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: honorable mention for a Rose, and we don't need to,
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: but I mean, just I'll make it quick. Christian Dare
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: saw coming back automatically proving and you can see the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: difference on the field. Same with Harrison Smith, the difference
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: of the team with them versus the team without them.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Well, and all he did was come out and block
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: one of the better defensive ends in the league.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I forget the guy's name, Hendrickson, Trey Hendrick.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson. I was gonna say Tray something anyway. Yeah,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: and he didn't play the whole game. I think he
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: came out in the fourth quarter. Yeah, they didn't need
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: him at that point.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: And I think Darrisaw, which I mean, people have their
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: opinions on Pro Football Focus, but I think at the
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: very least it gives you an idea of how good
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: a player was. Darrisaw had like a fifty eight grade,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: which is not good. Like it's not not the worst,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: but definitely not good. And I think a lot of
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: that is he didn't finish the game. I don't know
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: if he had any penal. I think he had at
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: least one penalty on I'll start, I think, which can
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: affect your PFF grade. But yeah, I think that's one
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: where the grade wasn't totally accurate to the performance. What
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: you're gonna get that? And yeah, I think you texted
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: me too early in the game.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: You kind of thought when you were watching him play
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: it seemed like he was maybe a ginger trying to
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: be a little cautious, you know, trying not to reaggravate
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: anything and you know, end up on IR again, which
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: would be terrible.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did say something like he doesn't trust it yet,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: And I even tweeted sometime last week I was feeling
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: really grumpy about because he had some quotes after practice
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: one day last week like I'm gonna come out and
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I'll play when I'm It wasn't snarky, but it was like,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna make sure I'm good to go before I
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: really go out there and play something like that. You
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: can look up the quote yourself if you want, But
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: that told me like, oh, he doesn't trust it, and
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: if he's gonna be hurt, just put him on IR.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: And then I quoted that tweet a few times saying like,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad I was wrong about this thing. I'm
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: such an idiot sometimes, But yeah, I thought dar Saw
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: and Darrisaw playing well opened up Hockinson and Harrison Smith
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: coming in really made everybody else play better on the defense.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: And it's when this team is healthy. It's a really
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: good team, all right.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: My thorn and this is a really quick one, but
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: we could ran about it for a second if we
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: want to. My thorn is the fact that CBS pulled
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the broadcast in the third quarter.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: That's so frustrating. There was I have a Sunday ticket,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: and I figured, okay, I got Sunday ticket, maybe there's
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: something I can do, Like I'll still be able to
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: find it somewhere. No, it wasn't a veilacked out. It
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: was blacked out with Sunday ticket because it had been
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: televised in our area.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I think had that happened without it being televised in
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: our area, Sunday tickets still would have pulled through. But no, go,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I had to find an illegal stream, an offshore stream
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: somewhere yep, and watch it on my phone instead of
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: my one hundred and ten inch screen downstairs.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Boohoo.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's the thorn of the game that
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: was frustrating.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: If there was any if there were another thorn, I
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: don't know if you had one, but if there were
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: another one, it would be maybe the sacks that Carson
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Wentz took, Like, just throw the ball away, man, Like
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: you're a veteran quarterback in this league. You should know
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: enough to know get rid of it, don't eat dirt
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and take the ball down with you.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Come on, I do have a thorn, and it's you know,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: boohoo about us. I'd love to have these problems. But
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: my thorn is that since the defense really locked everything
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: down so quick, it kind of the game kind of
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: turned into like everything's working for us. I feel like
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: we didn't get much of a sense of how Carson
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Wentz would play in a tight game, how Koc would
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: interact with that. I feel like we didn't learn a
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: lot about Koc and Carson Wentz because we didn't have to.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Just like, I mean, Carson Wentz, what do you have
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy yards and two touchdown passes, which
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: is great. One hundred and twenty nine point eight rating.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: That's amazing. We take that every week and you know,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: buy his jersey and tattoo his face on our butts
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: if that were the case every week. But I feel
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: like he just he was in eance mode and everybody
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: was because you didn't have to, because you won forty
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: eight to ten, just because everything was going your way.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: So my thorn is that we didn't learn much about
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: the team other than they're capable of blowing somebody out.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: But I feel like that was just a consequence of like, oh,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: there's a fun moment to pick it up and run
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: it that way. Like not to take anything from those
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: crazy awesome plays, but you can't game plan for that.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: It's like, okay, here's our play where we force a fumble.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: It's just like, all right, let's practice the punching again.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: It's not much of a thorn because they won by
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: thirty eight points. But if you have to nitpick and
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: find anything, that'll be my one this week.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: All right, real quick, who are you giving a game
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: ball to?
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I don't know, this is hard.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: That's what she said.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like this is another one. There's Isaiah Rodgers.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Can't you can't go wrong with that.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: He had a basically a perfect game. Nothing he did
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: was wrong, everything was great. He single handedly scored enough
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: points to win that game. And I don't think there's
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: anything wrong if we both have the same game ball.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: No, I'm actually gonna go with one other, really awesome
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: thing that we haven't even touched yet. But it was
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: still pretty great. Yeah, to talk about franchise record, sixty
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: two yard field goals will record.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And it had the distance for much more than that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I think Ben Leeber estimated like at least another ten
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: to fifteen yard distance.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: What was crazy about that kick to me was it
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: kind of like it veered to the right a little
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: bit and I thought he was gonna miss it, and
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: then it just it just came back and then it went.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: It just snuck right in off the right, up right,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and it did have the distance to go farther, but
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: just the way that it hooked and came back in,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, that guy knows what he's doing. Yeah.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Well, and I say it every time. All of these
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: kickers in the NFL are physically capable of doing that.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, anytime I've ever tried to kick a field goal,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: you know, it's been like backyard football or what we
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: did with our fantasy football league. I don't even get
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: it off the ground like and if I do, like
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: the distance of my field goal wouldn't even go past
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: an NFL long snapper Like I. It's not an easy
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: thing to do. That's why there's only thirty two guys,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: maybe fifty guys in the whole world that could do
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: this in the NFL. And Darrisaw is one of the
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: better ones. And er Darrisaw, Will Reikers record, Will the Thrill,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Will the Thrill is one of the better ones. And
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I couldn't be more excited about that.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I definitely think him and Isaiah Rodgers get the game balls.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I'm happy with that for sure.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: All Right, how crazy of it to have a franchise
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: record kick and we almost forgot to mention it.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Right, that's how good the game was. I want to
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: get back to this quarterback situation though, because I feel
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: like every year that we've done this podcast, the Vikings
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: have been in this situation where it's like, Okay, we
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: have our guy and then something happens to the guy.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: And then we're like, all right, we have this other
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: guy and then they play well. And now it's been
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: kind of different every year, but I kind of summarized
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it here in our notes. You have twenty twenty three
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Cousins Tears's Achilles in Green Bay. Then we signed Josh
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Dobbs and we had those four glorious quarters spread across
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: two games of the kind of like insanity Josh Dobbs
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: thee Yeah, and they were well, man, those were fun,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: fun games to watch, you take me, but it crumbled
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: quickly fell apart. And then it was Jaron Hall and
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Nick Mullins and Dobbs that were kind of in this
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: carousel for the rest of the year. And then at
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the end of the season, it was Kirk Cousins or
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: save money and draft a quarterback. They picked the latter option.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: They like Kirk walk which was I think a smart decision,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: but one that I was like, no, I want the guy,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: like I like him or bought into him as a franchise,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Let's pay him what he's you know, Like I was
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: pounding the table for that to happen. And then he left.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Yep. And if I remember right, we never like argued
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: about it, but we were on opposite sides of the
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: table a little bit. You came around pretty quick once
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: it was evident they weren't going to sign Cousins.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: But so then last season JJ McCarthy's drafted to replace
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, but then he gets hurt and Sam Darnold
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: is brought in to kind of be the the the
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: camp quarterback, slash the like, definitely the bridge guy battle
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: it out or maybe yeah, could I bridge between Cousins
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: and JJ? And all Sam did was ball out and
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: have a really good year. He only lost to two teams.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately he lost to them twice each at really bad times.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: But he had a really good season. He's playing pretty
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: well in Seattle this year. Good for that guy. But
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: again at the end of the season, and we found
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: ourselves in that situation. Do we keep Sam Darnold and
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: just keep kicking the tires on JJ McCarthy, I will see,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I will give you the Jordan Love treatment and let
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: you sit behind the experienced guys. Well, no, they said
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: bye to Sam, and he's again playing well in Seattle,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: and now we got JJ. JJ plays all of two games,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: has one good quarter and I'm still a little skeptical
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: about if he's actually hurt or not. I wonder if
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: it was more of a soft benching. This is just
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: my theory. I'm not saying anything that I anything that
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I know for certain. I'm just speculating here. He played poorly.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: According to one of the stat sites that I looked at,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I can't remember which one it was, but I looked
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: at it today. I think it's this one that does EPA,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: he is the worst quarterback in the league. Minimum of
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: however many snaps e pa plus e poe, he is
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: thirty third out of thirty three quarterbacks in the league.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree with you, respectfully. I
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: think Kevin O'Connell, if he was gonna bench the franchise
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: quarterback eight quarters into his career, KOC would outright say it.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: He would be like, Hey, this is what we're doing.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: This is why we have a lot of faith in
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: this team and quarterback play so far is 'en up
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: to snuff. This is why we're doing it. I think
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: it might be a hair convenient and the outcome once
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: JJ is healthy will benefit him to take a breath.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, his whole world is changing he's a QB
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: one for an NFL team for the first time without
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: a lot of pivotal pivotal pieces. We just spent twenty
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: minutes drooling about Christian darrisaw who hasn't played with JJ McCarthy.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: It's not an excuse, but McCarthy did just have a son.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: They have a child, and we're dads. I know I
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: was a worthless piece of garbage to the rest of
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: the world the first definitely the first week of each
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: of my children's lives, because you're not sleeping, you're focused
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: on your whole world changes. So again, not an excuse,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: but it is an excuse, and it sounds cheap to
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: blame it on that, but it definitely factored in whether
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: it was the whole reason or not. And he's young,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: he's twenty two trying to diagnose an NFL defense and
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: offense and dictate it and literally be the quarterback. So
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: it's not going to be immediately awesome right away. So
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: do I think they're soft benching him and saying he's
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: hurt to try to save his pride. No, I don't
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: think KOs would do something like that. He'd save his
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: pride in a different way, trying to talk him up
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: and say, hey, in the moment, we're just gonna let
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: him sit for a few games. But like I said,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I do think the end result once he's back, probably
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: after the buye and healthy, I think it'll be one
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: of those he may not be immediately handed his job
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: behind closed doors. It'll be like, all right, let's let's
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: get back to work and see how healthy you really are.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: There might be a prolonged you're kind of still sore thing,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: but I don't think it's a you know, a quiet
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: benching or a soft benching. But I could see the mindset.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: I definitely could see why you'd say that.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: So how well does Carson Wentz have to play to
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: take that out from under? JJ? McCarthy then like to
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: pull a quote unquote Sam Darnold or like a Josh
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Dobbs that came in and played really well for a
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: couple of games, Like, what does what does Carson Wentz
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: have to do in your opinion to pull the rug
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: out from under JJ?
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, first, we're not in the practice field
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: and in the meetings and stuff, so we don't really know.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe they are sitting there in the meetings like, oh
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: my gosh, JJ McCarthy is an idiot. I don't know that,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: and I haven't heard anything to prove that, but like,
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: if they are in meetings and he's not like talking
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: like a quarterback, that that could be one thing that
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: JJ could do to keep himself on the sideline. But
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I think if Carson Wentz has a similar stat line,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: you know, one fifty to two hundred yards to you know,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: one to three touchdowns, like, I think that's not going
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: to keep JJ on the sideline. If he's healthy and
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: KOC has confidence in him moving around, I think if
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Carson Wentz starts throwing for three point fifty plus doing
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: like Sports Center top ten highlight reel plays four or
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: five touchdowns, you know, I think there is a way
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: that he could play well enough to keep anybody on
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: the bench, But we've never seen that from him, not
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: since his knee injury with the Eagles in his rookie year.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Second year. I think he'll be fine. I think we're
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: going to get these decent good games from him, these
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: one fifty to two hundred yards stuff like that, but
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: I don't expect much more than that. It does help
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: having a veteran in there during these heavy travel weeks here,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: in the next two games. But yeah, I think once
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: JJ is healthy, he's going to come back and be
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: given every opportunity to keep the QB one job.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: And I think that's where I disagree a little bit.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I really think that if Carson Wentz plays like he
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: did or better, which I think there's the ceiling is
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: pretty high for him. I think Carson Wentz could play
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: at a really high level, much higher than he did,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: and he had the benefit of this super stout defense
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: and performance not just by Isaiah Rodgers, but the whole defense,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: and the defense is really only getting healthier as the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: weeks progress. I like what Carson Wentz could do. I
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: think he's more of that game manager pocket passer you
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier. He's not the one that's gonna get
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: outside the pocket and try to run like he used
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: to when he was younger, when he was like JJ
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: McCarthy and you know, fresh into the league and you know,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: hadn't gone through any major surgeries or anything like that
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: to repair his his body. Like, he knows his role,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: he knows what he needs to do. He's smart, he's
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: well studied, he's he kind of reminds me of a
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins a little bit. Maybe not to that level yet,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: but I think with some time and working with a
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: coach like Kevin O'Connell, like I think, those things will
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: come to Carson Wentz in this system over time. I
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: think there's a very likely scenario where Carson Wentz makes
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: a trip across the Pond to play the Steelers in
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: the Browns in double and London, and comes back to
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: the US keeping the starting quarterback job even after the
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: bye week. I think that's a very likely scenario. He
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: has to play well in those two games. You just
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: mentioned it too though, that you know, having that veteran
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: experience really benefits you going on a long road trip
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: like this, being one of the only teams to ever
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: play back to back games abroad and not come home
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: in between them, like you're gonna rely on. Okay, this
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: is my routine. This is how I do things. This
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: is what I eat in the morning, this is when
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I go to bed, this is how I adjust the
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: jet lag. All that stuff is going to be super
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: important for not just one game, but now too. Overseas
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: and traveling from one country to another between weeks. I
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: think same time zone roughly and stuff like that. But like,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I think there's a very strong possibility
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: that he keeps the starting job until he loses it. Yeah,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I say, and I'm very
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: okay with that because I'm happy with what I saw.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: If they keep winning games, I let him do what
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: they're gonna do.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: And I don't think on the other side of that equation,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know that JJ McCarthy's that game manager. I
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: think JJ McCarthy's more reactive. I think he's more Oh crap,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: here comes somebody to try to tackle me. I got
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: to react, and I got to try to make something happen.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: And that's where he got himself in trouble. In the
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: first couple of games. It happened against the Bears, and
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: then I don't know, something happened, something clicked in him.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Maybe it was just the adrenaline. Maybe he blacked out
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: and doesn't remember anything about the fourth quarter, but he
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: made it happen, and then it was miserable against the Falcons.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: It was just that was a hard game to watch. Specifically,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: the quarterback play it was subpar.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: I we're going to disagree on that, and that's fine.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: It was tough game, and JJ could have played better,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: but I don't think it was even mostly JJ's fault.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: But and that's okay if we disagree on that. I
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: I think it's more fun if we disagree on that.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: I will say, like I just said, I if Wentz
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: goes and plays the next what two, three, four games,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: however many games until JJ's healthy, and he gives us
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: these one hundred and seventy five yard two touchdown games
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: every time, you know that consistently decent play, Like I said,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: that won't be enough for JJ to immediately get bumped
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: from QB one. But if JJ does come back and
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: with everyone else healthy again, Darisa in there again, sounds
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: like Donovan Jackson had surgery this morning and he's gonna
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: be out a few weeks. If JJ does come back
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: with the same team Carson Wentz had and doesn't play
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: at least about the same as Carson Wentz, if not
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: way better, then I think you could run into a
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: scenario where KOs He's like, all right, everything was the same,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: and obviously we have one guy that was playing better
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: than the other guy with all the same variables. Then
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: I could see a switch being made. But that should
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: be the mindset of every position every week. It's just difficult.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: When you drafted quarterback tenth overall, you're kind of putting
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: your career on him. So yeah, it's a tough situation.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: I think there's almost nothing Carson Wentz can do to
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: keep JJ off the field. It's all on what JJ does.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: He can keep himself on or off the field, depending
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: on how he plays well.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting question for our viewers too.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Where do you sit on the issue and who's more
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: deserving of being the starting quarterback? Because I'm definitely leaning
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: towards Wentz right now, and I'm not opposed to JJ
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: coming back and playing better. I would love to see that,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to see this team wasted a
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: tenth overall pick on a guy who's a bust, because
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: we've seen this organization do that before in our lifetime
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: and it's painful, it sucks. We don't like that at all.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: But I also don't like watching the Vikings lose like
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: they did to the Falcons. Yeah, that was miserable, and
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: to go it's kind of like whiplash almost to go
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: from that game where you have such a bad taste
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: in your mouth to like, Holy cow, we just put
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: the beat down on the Bengals. They're the ones that
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: walked out of the building with a bad taste in
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: their mouth, the at our expense, Like we did that
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: to them. That was awesome. I don't know. We talked
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I think last week or two weeks ago about who's
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: got the hot hand, who do you roll with? And
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: that's where I kind of lean right now. Carson Wentz
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: has the hot hand. Did he play like MVP level
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: quarterback in this game against the Bengals?
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: No?
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: But did he play well enough to win the game? Yeah?
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: And I think even if the defense doesn't do it
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: it did I think he played well enough to win
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Sure. So, I mean the Bengals, face it, they only
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: scored ten points. Carson Wentz had two passing touchdowns that
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: right there would have won the game. Jordan Mason had
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: two rushing touchdowns that right there would have won the game.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: And you know, obviously if the defense didn't do what
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: they did, the game would have been different anyways. But yeah,
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Let's look ahead. We've got a couple of games. We've
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: already mentioned it. Going to Europe Dublin next.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Week against Aaron Rodgers.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, and then London the week after. We
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: don't have to spend too much time talking about that,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: because we will. We'll talk about that next week for sure.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: But injury updates you kind of already alluded to Donovan Jackson.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: It sounds like he played through whatever injury he dealt,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: like a rist risk. He played through it and played
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: pretty well, yeah against the Bengals, and then he had
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: surgery this morning and now he's out for a while, which, yeah, okay,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: get well soon because we need you, buddy.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: One thing that is optimistic about that is that they
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: didn't put him on the injury reserve, So that tells me,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: at least for the moment, it could change. You know,
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: maybe he wakes up tomorrow and he's way worse after
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: surgery and they were like, oh, it's going to take
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: a lot longer. But at least for right now, it
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: tells me they're not planning on him being out four games.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Otherwise they would have immediately put him on IR so
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: a few games. Hopefully comes back and continues to play well.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: I think. I mean, it's hard to evaluate guard play
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: without watching him consistently give up sacks out of nowhere.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: But I think because we've only mentioned his name for
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: giving up a sack once or twice, because of that,
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: he's been playing well. Yeah, I'm excited for him to
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: come back, and it's always good to like battle some
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: adversity right away, so he'll be able to work his
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: way back. And Blake Brandell isn't great but as a
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: fill in guy, yeah, not terrible, and preseason VP on
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: the offensive line, Joe Hubert he'll probably get in for
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: a few games too, or at least be active. We've
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: already talked about Justin or JJ McCarthy. He's they haven't
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: officially said. They just keep saying like he's gonna be
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: out this week.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: That's what I want to add. That's my question here
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: is when does he come back? Because I think right
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: now the consensus amongst fans anyways, I don't know what
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: they're saying inside the organization, and maybe it's hush hush
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: right now, but the consensus is week seven after the bye,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: which is against no one other than the Super Bowl
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: champion Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah for sure. So do we really
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: think that Kos's gonna throw JJ out to the Wolves
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: against the defending Super Bowl Champs.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, if here's your QB one and Carson Wentz
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: in this theoretical scenario hasn't blown the league apart with
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: playing like an MVP, which if he does that, all
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: bets are off. But if Carson Wentz just keeps doing
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: the decent thing that he did yesterday, I think you
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: got a roll with your QB one, no matter who
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: that is. But it'll be telling if JJ's healthy and
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: they still don't play him. But yeah, they've already said
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: McCarthy's gonna make the trip to London, which could mean
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: a lot or it could mean not much. But to me,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: it's more telling than if they said, yeah, he's gonna
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: stay home and recover. I mean, it could be as
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: simple as they've already planned for him to be at events,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: you know. Like, I don't know, but it is at
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: least optimistic to me that he is making the trip.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know. I feel like I'm more
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: pro JJ than you are right now, which again is
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: perfectly fine. I think had Carson Wentz gone out and
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: thrown for seventy yards and three interceptions, we'd both be
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: saying like this is rough. Let's see Max Brosmer.
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, we got to see Max we did.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: It was fun. He went what two for two? His
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: first two passes were incomplete, but I think Adam Thielen
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: dropped one that would have been a fun catch to see,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: but definitely of catchable ball and I forget the other one.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Was it another drop by Cam Akers or something I
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: don't remember. Yeah, it was fun to see brosemer get in.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: That was exciting.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: A couple other offensive linemen dealing with some injury, got
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly justin school and Darisaw kind of on a
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: pitch count more or less coming back from his ACL
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: or MCL or whatever it was last year.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: So it was cool.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely like some pieces on the offensive line that
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: could either get healthier, like Darisaw like I think he was.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: It was good to have him back. He made a
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: difference for sure, but would be great to have him
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: back like four quarters. Maybe comes out of player or
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: two here or there just to catch his breath, but
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: otherwise he's he's that guy solidifying. I texted you Jordan
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Mason had a really good run to start the game
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: and it was off to the left and the first
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: or second it was all CD just out there, just
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: sealing off the left side so that he had room,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: he had green grass to go, And like that's just
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: the difference that guy makes. He's he's huge literally and figuratively.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: And he's got a huge paycheck now too, Like he's
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: making a lot of money. So I think he's one
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: to watch. I think Ryan Kelly too, is another one
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: to like, that's that's your center out there, you.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Know, like making calls in the pass protection.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: And snapping the ball, like getting the ball to the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: quarterback to start the play. So he's another one to
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: kind of watch. I don't know his status. I put
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: a question mark.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he'll be back sometime soon, but hopefully
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: sooner rather than later.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: All right, are you concerned at all about two weeks
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: in a row in the UK or is that kind
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: of a non issue for you?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: No, because I feel like once you're there, if anything,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: two weeks might be beneficial. I think the Jaguars last year
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: were the first team to do multiple weeks in a
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: row over there. They lost their first one and won
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: their second one. I have never been a high level
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: athlete that travels with a team that has to to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: focus on football, but I would imagine there might be
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: some value in locking in and yeah, you've traveled, you're
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: away from home, family, kids, everything, But also like when
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: you're there, theoretically you're focus like you don't have much
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: What do they say about Green Bay? Like, oh, I
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: love green Bay because there's no way for me to
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: get in trouble and all I have to focus on
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: is football. I mean, when you're on an international trip
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: with your team, like you're with the team the whole time,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: hopefully you're focusing on football. So I'm not super concerned.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: I think it's the concerning part for me is like logistically,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: like that's a lot because you're not just getting on
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: a plane and traveling and playing in you know, another
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: stadium a few hours away from where you live. Like
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I think they're they're probably have a whole plane just
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: for equipment, you know, like they've had people scouting out
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: where they're gonna stay and planning out meals and like
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: doing all these things and planning everything out, And that
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: was probably more of a logistical thing to plan out.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: And anytime you're focusing more on traveling to London, you're
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: probably focusing less on the game plan for the Bengals
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So, yeah, it probably just
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: puts a dent in your game plan, but overall, I
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: think they any NFL team is capable of overcoming any
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: of those challenges.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Something interesting that kind of just dawned on me here
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: as we were talking two weeks in a row. The
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Vikings will play like forty plus year old veteran quarterbacks
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: that have won Super Bowls and are really really good
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: and are still playing at a high level despite their
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: old age.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers. He's actually looking okay this year.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Joe Flacco just beat the Packers right with a lot
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: of help from his defense and still playing. I love
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: that so much. But yeah, I mean that. What did
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: I just say about Carson Wentz and traveling to overseas,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: Like having that veteran presence and not having everything be
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: brand new and being around the block.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: That's definitely got to be an advantage like it to
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: some point. And the Vikings beat Aaron Rodgers in London
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: last year, so there's no reason they can't beat him
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: in Dublin this year.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: All right, So you had to spin the wheel today.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: You're wearing gloves still, it seems to be going. Well,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: they're warm, they're sweaty.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: I was about to say.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: It, I have to We'll throw this in the wash.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I've done that before. It's all good.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Well I've gotten a little bit of beer residue on
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: them as well.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: So so looking ahead at next week, you picked the
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Vikings to beat the Steelers in Dublin. I picked them
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: to lose. So regardless of what happens, one of us
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: will be spinning the wheel based on the outcome of
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: the game. The Vikings win, I will spin. If the
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Vikings lose, you will spin.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: I hope you have to eat something spicy.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: The Carolina Reaper Almo.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Or the mustard sardines.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: That sounds terrible. Well, either way one of us is spinning.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Has your pick changed at all?
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: I think the Vikings win seems like more and more
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: people are getting healthy. Christian Dearsa alone is proving that
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: he was a huge piece him and Harrison Smith. You're
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: coming off the high of having kicked the crap out
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: of another good football team when everybody's healthy. Healthy for
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: them too in the Bengals. But also something we haven't
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: mentioned yet, Jordan Addison is coming back. Yeah, and we
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: saw firsthand in training camp highlights and the preseason game
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: that JJ played. Jordan Adison and JJ McCarthy have a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: connection at least on the field, and when JJ McCarthy
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: comes back, that'll be good. But that also speaks to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Jordan Addison being a good football player. So the more
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: good football players you have available to the better you are. Yeah.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: All for that reason, without even looking at the Steelers themselves,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: I think the Bikings are poised to get a few
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: wins in the column here the next handful of weeks.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be great. Steelers I think are a
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: decent team. Yeah. I think their defense is pretty pretty good.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Although I had them in fantasy and I dumped them
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: because they scored me negative for two weeks ago. It
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: still doesn't seem and this is typical of Steelers football
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: that I've watched in my lifetime. There's just not a
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: lot of offensive production, even with Aaron Rodgers and some
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: of the other weapons that they have on the offensive
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: side of the ball. So I like Minnesota's defense against
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: this Steelers team. I don't know that Aaron Rodgers can
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: pick apart this defense because he's going to look out
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: across the line of scrimmage, and he's going to get
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: eight million different looks throughout the game, and by the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: end of it, he's not going to know which side
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: is up and which one's down. And yeah, I would
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: look for a couple of turnovers. I would look for
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: a decent offensive game. I think KOs will call a
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: good game. I don't think it's a blowout by any means,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: but I think it's a good NFL game. But I
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: think the Vikings are in control. We do not have
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: to make picks for the following week against the Browns.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: But one thing I would point out is I made
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: one of my locks. Yeah I won't reveal which one. Well,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: if you watch the episode, you'll.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: Know, you'll have to go back and check it out.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: But if you don't know and you're not willing to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: go back, you'll have to wait until next week for
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: me to reveal it was my lock to lose or
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: my lock to win for the Vikings against the Browns
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: for their second week overseas. But yeah, these two these
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: two games are gonna be interesting. I'm excited to watch them.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I probably won't get to watch them live because they
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: happened at eight thirty on Sunday, mornings, and I'm usually
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: at church at that point.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've already made it clear that I'll be watching
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: these games live.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I can make that excuse. I
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: might have to go to church and come back and
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: watch the replay.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: All right, Uh, do we want to give a score prediction? Yeah,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: the Vikings Steelers game.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I see you put one in R. Do you want
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: to share yours? Yeahll I formulate mine. I already said
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: the Vikings are going to win. I think it's going
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: to be twenty eight to seventeen, just in the.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Fact that it might be a less exciting game than
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: against the Bengals, but the Vikings are still riding that high.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: You just said Brian Flores has a pretty great defense
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: and it'll be tough for Aaron Rodgers. Yes, future, I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: mean put him in the Hall of Fame right now,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: but still not easy of a defense to navigate. I
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: feel like every time Aaron Rodgers talks about the Vikings,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: he mentioned something about how good Harrison Smith is, and
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: it seems like Harrison Smith is ready to go. So yeah,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Vikings twenty eight, Steelers seventeen. On to London.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I will follow a similar trend. I did originally pick
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: the Vikings to lose this game, but I do think
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: they win this game. That's my updated pick. My purple
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: punishments pick is still a Vikings loss. So if I'm
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: incorrect and the Vikings do win, which I'm rooting for now,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I will spin the wheel. I'm gonna say Vikings win
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: twenty four seventeen. I think it's a little bit of
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: a closer game. I think Aaron Rodgers tries to mount
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: a late game come back. I think the Vikings are
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: up by twenty four to seventeen. Packers get the ball
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: or not the Packers?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Oh man, he used to spend a few years.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Man, Steelers get the ball with a chance to tie
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: it up at the end, but this defense is just
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: too much. They don't do it.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I score? All right, man? What did
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: you think? Having finished almost both of these? Now? Of
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: the Peach Fuzz from stump Box Spring.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Super good beer. I like the sourness of it, actually
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: like I think the tartness of it just compliments the
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: flavor of the beer in a really unique way, one
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: that I've never really had before, but also in a
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  Speaker 1: good way. And I would drink this out at a bonfire.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it would be good by there. But
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  Speaker 2: what I meant when I said that is it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: the first tip I took. That wasn't the vibe I got.
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  Speaker 2: I shouldn't immediately picture myself by a fire the way
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  Speaker 2: I do when it's an Oktoberfest.
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  Speaker 1: It has kind of that like peach cobbler warmness to it.
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  Speaker 1: I think the sourness hits you up front and then
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  Speaker 1: it kind of mellows out. So I like it. It's really good.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back. I know my wife wants
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  Speaker 1: to go back because she really liked this beer. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: we bought six of them and she kept two for herself.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, good, good for her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Stop Box is a great place, great vibes, obviously, great beers.
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  Speaker 2: They're one of my favorites in this area. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I agree. I'd be interested to try it on tap
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  Speaker 2: because then, like you said, you had been drinking other
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  Speaker 2: things as well, but you kind of got a different
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  Speaker 2: vibe when you drink it off the tap, and then
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  Speaker 2: we did out.
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  Speaker 1: Of the can. It was smooth, and that's I mean,
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  Speaker 1: any beer drink is gonna be smoother coming off the
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  Speaker 1: draft than it would in a can.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, next time I go there and maybe i'll
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  Speaker 2: if they still have it, I'll have to give this
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  Speaker 2: one a try right on draft. But uh yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: really liked it tonight. It was sweet. I probably wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: want to do like a whole six pack right off
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  Speaker 2: the bat, like i'd want to mix it up with
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  Speaker 2: some other stuff too. But there's nothing wrong with this beer.
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  Speaker 2: If you like peach stuff at all, this is definitely
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  Speaker 2: the beer for you. It may even be one that
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  Speaker 2: if you don't really like beers or sours like, might
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  Speaker 2: be one that is not as extremely tart or super
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  Speaker 2: beer e. It might be a good one to try.
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  Speaker 2: If you like peach stuff but you're not super into beer.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Well, i'd say this is a really
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