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Clif High: The Cabal’s Collapse Will Begin This Summer (and CBDC Will Fail) · Man in America Podcast

• 0:01
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host Seth Willhaus. So I have such an incredible interview for you today, which it might honestly just being completely honest with you, this might be the most interesting discussion I've ever had with a guest here on the show. And so joining me is Cliff High, who maybe you're familiar with him, maybe you're not. I know before and I've asked people if you had any recommendations from who to interview.
• 0:28
  He's come up quite a lot, And he's someone that is brilliant in in ways that are hard to fathom. And some of the technology he's invented over the past twenty years have helped him understand where our world is at today is just incredible. And he's also been someone that has this unique ability to almost peer into the future and he's predicted things like nine eleven, you know, even early last year, he was talking and saying, we're gonna have the banks collapsing in March of next year. So he's that's just one of the many many things that he's seen coming. So we're gonna be talking about where we're at in history, central bank digital currency, fiat currency, the collapse of the dollar, the rise of new currency, the future of civilization, the unveiling of all the truth and information has been hidden from us.
• 1:18
  So it's gonna be a pretty mind bending interview. So I hope you can enter into it with a little bit of an open mind and just, you know, relax. This is one that you're gonna wanna just kind of sit down, relax, focus on, and enjoy yourselves. And I can tell you, that I left this interview full of hope. And, you know, you know me, I'm a pretty optimistic person.
• 1:40
  I covered a lot of doom and gloom stuff, but fundamentally, I'm full of optimism. And a lot of what we talk about, especially towards the end, it it just it genuinely gives me hope and it makes me excited to live at this time where we live right now. So, folks, enjoy this. Also, make sure you're following me on social media at man in America. And every show is done as a podcast as well.
• 2:02
  So if you want to listen, just go to your favorite podcast app, search for man in America, and you'll find me there. Alright, folks. Let's jump into this interview with Cliff High. So Cliff, thank you so much for joining us today. I've been following you for some time and it's just it's quite a pleasure to have you on the show.
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, thanks very much.
• 2:23
  Seth Holehouse: It's good because I find that you're just you're such a different thinker. And I really, really appreciate that because I think that sometimes we're all just kind of locked into the same way of looking at things and then I listen to one of your episodes, it's like, oh my gosh, never thought about it like that. It's interesting because one of my good friends who I consider one of my smartest friends that I have, who's been following you since pre 09/11. He's been following you for over twenty years. He was like, Seth, you gotta get Cliff on this guy.
• 2:48
  Like, we're the smartest guys in the world. So my friend says that. It's like, okay. I think it's time to have Cliff on. We finally were able to connect.
• 2:55
  So it's just thank you for being here.
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure. Yeah, no worries. Busy, busy days. Yeah, for everybody.
• 3:02
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, it is. And so how about we start with just so for a lot of my audience that may not know who you are, and even my my kind of understanding of kind of your background is probably kind of a little bit fractured, you know, kind of piecing things together. But like what I've seen though from you is that you have this ability through a lot of what you're talking about to understand not just making sense of where we're at and where we've been, but really where we're going. And even a year ago, were saying in March of twenty twenty three, we're gonna see the banking stuff hit and, like, you've you've had this ability to almost look into the future. So can you just explain a little bit more of your background and where that comes from?
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: Boy, that's I'm 70 years old, so that's that's a lot of background there. Okay. So here's the thing. I discovered early in my life due to my own mental infirmities that, people don't really understand the reality in which we operate. And that, because people are not they're not automatons or anything like that, but they're they're not really self aware.
• 4:13
  And so they don't know that their language is exists as an as a form of emotional expression. Okay? It's only secondary that we communicate facts to each other through language. Primarily, it is an it is a method of dealing with ourselves as life, which is consciousness attached to matter, but also life is, the totality of experience. And so we are trying to absorb and digest and deal with our experience, and we put this out in our language.
• 4:49
  And so I discovered very early that people telegraph. Okay. So I'm a martial artist. I got the shit kicked out of me when I was 10 years old, and, I've been in the martial arts ever since. And so that means personal combat, sometimes five and six days a week.
• 5:06
  As a result of that, you understand the telegraphing of moves, feints, and warfare at a very deep level. And so I understood that people telegraphed and fainted, and they practiced warfare by language. That's when I really started getting into it. Then I discovered that the people that were practicing warfare by language didn't really understand language or what it's doing. And so in in the nineties, it crystallized on a so I've been programming for years and years and years, worked for Microsoft, worked for the telephony industry, had worked on for companies where we did things like SS seven, which is the signal switching seven network layer across the telephony that allows the Internet to work among other things.
• 5:55
  Right? So I was really deep in all the technical stuff, and I've been thinking and thinking and thinking. Something was really annoying me. Then on a I had a job down in Mexico City, and on an airplane flight down there, the airplane was struck twice by lightning. In between those two lightning strikes, this idea that had been gnawing on me for probably two decades crystallized.
• 6:17
  And I understood some nature of language in a way that other people had not, and I was there thereafter able to build what's known as a large language model. Okay? Just basically the ability to go through lots of language and extract stuff. But I wasn't interested in extracting the the facts or the communication or any of that. I wanted to extract the emotion because I was convinced that that emotion was prescient, that humans have to get out our views of the future, and that we did not at that point understand time.
• 6:49
  We still don't understand time as a society nor its impact on ourselves as emotional beings. And so we have these feelings. We have these inputs that come to us from time and are also carried by time that are slightly ahead of the future. And so I worked out all this math, and the timing was sucky because sometimes I would get it really precisely, but other times I'd be off by eighteen years. But nonetheless, the actual manifestation as was described by the language did show up as was described by the language, whatever my timing characteristics might have been, however variant they might have been to the actual occurrence of the thing.
• 7:29
  So I was somewhat intrigued, and I wrote this large language model that for years I produced reports that were basically telling you what was gonna happen. A few years out, eighteen months out, three months out, five days out, right, depending on the nature of the language and or what was bubbling up that I could could catch. Then around Obama time, they started putting the censorship on the Internet, and I and I struggled and struggled and struggled to keep it working against that, not understanding that they were actively doing that because I was heads down in my stuff. I wasn't much paying attention to the social milieu around me. And so, eventually, it crapped out on me because the, the censorship was, too much, and we weren't being allowed to express ourselves and get that emotionality out, which carried with it the the temporal connections and the, the present view of what might come up.
• 8:27
  And so, so it sort of faded off in time around 2019 or so, it was it would have been impossible to to have done it. But I I was getting some useful data still in 2018. However, a lot of the early projections have been exactly right for timing and so on. Now I don't have the full large language model that I've been operating on. I just have the emotional intensity metrics, the the numbers that come in off the language because it is still so censored.
• 9:02
  However, I get enough out of it to be able to pick out these clues, such as our banking crisis here a year in advance or the big ugly about a year in advance, being able to see that emerge. And it I mean, I can get into the details of how it works and all of that if anybody really cares. It's very tedious. It is very accurate, and it also confirms a different view of what humans are, okay, than what we operate on in our normal world. Right?
• 9:33
  What the normies understand ourselves to be is not accurate at all. Unfortunately for them, we're in that period of reality where we're gonna have a revolutionary reset of our consciousness. Okay? And this will occur. We're gonna have this big spike of it that will flow through us now.
• 9:54
  It'll sort of peak out in in May, early May, and then fade by June, and then it'll come back in 2024 with a vengeance and be with us for decades. So it's gonna fade because we have to deal with the immediacy, right, and the of everything that's gonna be crashing and all of this sort of thing. The the reason we're gonna go through this reset of our consciousness has to do with the, basically, the total crash of the systems that allow us to perceive reality in the narrowly defined paradigm that's been presented to us. Right? So if someone came to you and said, reality is x y z, but x y z required on banks to be functioning, and then the banks didn't function, then you're gonna question your reality at that point, at least to some level.
• 10:46
  If it comes in from everywhere and the whole system is crumbling, you're gonna you're gonna question every aspect of your reality, have to find some little center that is solid and work your way back out, and we're there now.
• 10:59
  Seth Holehouse: That makes sense. So if I can, you know, kind of you kind of put it here how I understand it is that it's this large language model that you built is, as I understand, is is a almost like a bot. There's something that you're scouring the internet for language, right? And it's even this for for quite some time, which you can see why censorship would get in the way of that. And so I've had premonitions before, you know, whether it's a dream or a feeling, even a gut feeling that you wake up one day, something bad's gonna happen and something bad does happen.
• 11:28
  Right? And so I I really I do believe that that, you know, we have that ability, right, to sense things or that we're given messages, etc. And I also, you know, I really agree with your perspective of kind of words versus thoughts and emotions. Like I feel like so much happens at almost in like another space time with our thinking and all the matter that's forming our thoughts before it even hits the layer of words. Right?
• 11:54
  So like if you can, if you can tap into that and that, and this is kind of a broader discussion, but you know, the idea of space time, it's like, well, those thoughts in another dimension could have been forming for one hundred years, right? If that other dimension has a different space time than ours, right? And that's kind of getting into the some, you know
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: With that, okay, so there's a big problem though. We start, you're, you're coming back to this old Einsteinian thing with the potential for for space time to exist, which it does not. Okay. The in Einstein's model, e equals m c squared, he's basically saying that energy is equivalent to mass moved to the speed of light and squared. And and it's actually the reverse of that.
• 12:38
  Mass is energy condensed. Okay? And so the the nuclear bomb was not as Einstein had described it. It was as Maxwell, in Maxwell's electromagnetic equations, had described it that that basically it was the nuclear bomb was tearing apart the molecular bonds of an atom, but the the molecules themselves were not in any way touched. Right?
• 13:05
  So we were dealing with it in a different way. So we have to flop ourselves in terms of of of how we understand things. So I'm perfectly in agreement with you. We get premonitions constantly. We can't help but get premonitions because our brains are emulsified oil antennae.
• 13:25
  So your brain is this little body of a gel that is filled with tens of thousands, maybe millions of little microcrystals, and those microcrystals vibrate at all kinds of different, speeds, and they will put and because they vibrate, they cause the electrical interaction that causes thought to occur to us, right, to actually manifest in their brain when they do the MRIs and that kind of thing. However, our skulls are not proof. They're not metallic or whatever. They themselves, our skulls, also have a crystalline embedded, element to them, so they are transmitting waves that come in from the outside to these antennae, and that's what they're supposed to do. So if we think about it at one level, if you're out hunting and, even if you're out fishing, okay, so let's take the more extreme example, and that would be fishing.
• 14:20
  Got a fishing pole. You got a line. You got a weight on the end of that line with a hook and some kind of a bait, and you put it into an environment that you can't see into, usually. Right? The stream further down or out in the ocean or something.
• 14:33
  You can't really see below the water. But nonetheless, you ask any fisherman, and they will describe to you the feeling of the bottom of that lake or that that area that they're fishing in. The they'll they'll describe to you actually activity that's going on around it as the fisherman. No. No.
• 14:50
  He's over there. I gotta get it over there a little bit, and there you go. Right? And every fisherman, every hunter has had that feeling. You connect with the life on a different level than we would expect out here, but it is proof you could do that here if you decided to to open yourself up to it.
• 15:08
  So it's perfectly sensible that we will pick up stuff. Now here's our problem. If you wake up and you're in a military barracks, okay, then you cannot assume that any mood you wake up with is your own. It could be the combined zeitgeist of that barracks as everybody's waking up because our skulls, to a certain extent, are permeable to these emotional waves that transmit through all of us. So it gets really tricky.
• 15:38
  But I do and so you can't for instance, we could be easily tricked. Somebody could probably make a machine to put these kind of thoughts into our head to create a mood before you wake up. That would be that would be doable. So in my opinion, we can't really, accept, on the face value, these impressions that come to us. We need to analyze, analyze, analyze until we're sure.
• 16:02
  You know, maybe I had a terrible night last night, and my hormones are all messed up because my digestion is bad, and I wake up thinking it's gonna be a bad day. That is different from just ordinary waking up, and it's like, okay. Ominous feeling. What's going on? Right?
• 16:18
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. And so so basically, through all, you know, kind of pulling in all this language and looking at it that so again, like as you mentioned, you weren't looking at language at its face value, you know, people talking about apps. Right? It was understanding the, in a lot of ways, the energy and the emotions behind that that represented that. So you were able to even, because I remember, know, this guy I was talking to said, look, like he actually kind of oddly enough, made a lot of money during nineeleven because he knew it was coming because he was following you.
• 16:47
  Like he said six months ahead of nineeleven, like, you know, like you said this was gonna happen and he made some moves in the stock market to reflect that. Obviously he trusted your, your insight, but that called out so basically there is this big event and am I correct to understand like the bigger the event, it's like dropping a rock into a pond, a bigger boulder will send bigger ripples and those ripples will kind of in a lot of ways, go further back into time. Right?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Okay. So alright. Time does not exist past or future. Okay? So time only exists in the ever present now, so we have to be careful of our language.
• 17:23
  And I'm not being pedantic. I just wanna be very clear about this. But conceptually, you are correct. It doesn't it's not that it goes back further in time, but rather that you catch it earlier as you were
• 17:35
  Seth Holehouse: approaching it. Sense it. Yeah. That makes sense.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay. And so for for my work, I use this guy, p l u t c h I k, I think his name is, Pluchik. Okay? He was a, sociologist, and he developed this thing called the wheel of emotion.
• 17:52
  And he develops and he and he creates this, wheel structure that has all of the emotions listed in it. Now he he was off. Okay? He, he approached it from a sociological viewpoint. I inserted a couple of more emotions, and then I put in another ring.
• 18:09
  And what I did, my genius in this, was to tie the middle of Pluchick's wheel of emotion to prescient sayings that humans have. Okay. Stupid things. You know, spill some salt. You gotta gotta deal with it.
• 18:28
  Okay. Step on a crack. Break your mother's back. All these weird ass sayings from when you're kids. Right?
• 18:35
  A lot of them are actually prescient, and and we're struggling to get out this emotion that's coming to us from the future, and and we just default to certain language. If you go through and and, you know, like, you have the, oh, my palm is itching. I'm gonna get some money. Right? Or my other palm is itching.
• 18:52
  Somebody's gonna come and see me. All of these body tells.
• 18:55
  Seth Holehouse: Like, my ears are burning because someone's talking about
• 18:58
  Robert Kiyosaki: it.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly. And there's just phraseology throughout all languages, and it is the same in all the languages absent the impact of grammar. So the Germans, the Swedes, the people in Uganda, they all say that something is happening. In Uganda, it's the earlobes, and you'll see them pulling on their earlobes and, okay, someone's talking about me.
• 19:20
  Right? And the Germans have this same thing, you know, about scratching the ears. If you're if you're just scratching your ears, someone might may say to you, hey, someone's talking about you because of that subconscious kind of a thing. So what I did was to take all those phrases, list them all out in a giant list, and start creating databases of these phrases in various different combinations of them. And then I went through Pluchak's wheel, and for each and all of the emotions, okay, so each and all of the eight primary emotions, you can put them together, and you get combinorics.
• 19:54
  Okay? Each and every one of the combinorics. So, you know, anger and angst. So you have anger, but you also have fear. Right?
• 20:04
  And so that goes all the way towards paranoia. So there are these long streams of of emotions that come from the combination of the other emotions. And so it became quite complex, but I have a computer, of course. And then I had all of these words that described emotions down to, an incredible detail, and then I started combining that large language model with the large language model of the of the phrases, and that was my set. And then I went looking for those phrases appearing in the language, and I was able to apply timing to them.
• 20:38
  Some of these things are instant. Some take a while. You know, so, I came up with immediacy language, short term language, long term language. Now, it was curious at the time I started all this work, of course, we were digitizing everything. We you know, the Internet was new.
• 20:53
  Right? And so the the Internet in the early days of my work here was dominated by long term language as people like myself were paid money to basically digitize everything and dump it on for governments and for libraries, books, all of this kind of stuff. So all through the nineties and the early two thousands, we were in this digitizing boom that dominated with long term language. At the time, I was aware that that was going on, but not on its impact on my work. Thus, a lot of the stuff I got in the early nineties in terms of language coming out of the Internet, bear in mind, there weren't as many people on it at that point.
• 21:29
  It was totally uncensored, so everything was just very prescient. There was all kinds of stuff going on. But because we were doing long term language, we got forecasts that were eighteen plus years out, and we're living in that eighteenth year now. So so, oh, okay. This all makes sense, you know.
• 21:49
  But it only makes sense from hindsight having seen it. Because in the midst of the digitization of all the long term data, I thought it was just the nature of the Internet that we didn't have a lot of the immediacy data, right, the slang. So we have different emotional impacts on and we we express it differently, based on the prescience that's going to occur. So imagine a situation where, we're gonna describe a car being taken away from a guy. Okay?
• 22:24
  And he's gonna lose his car in a an emotional interaction. And he can say it in basically in three ways. I mean, there's dozens of various gradients in between, but there's basically three ways. And you can say, she jacked my right. Okay?
• 22:45
  Or at the very so that would be immediacy language. The midterm language would be like, she took my car in the divorce. And then the long term way of saying that would be like the court or some authority being mentioned, a judge or whatever gave her my car, meaning that the action of it was was removed from her jacking it, okay, as opposed to the more medium action of it being sort of in between the the emotions of the two of them as opposed to a third party. Make sense?
• 23:32
  Seth Holehouse: It does. Yes. Okay.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Okay. So you can you can see phrases. You can look through people's, conversations and get this feeling. Are they talking about immediacy? Are they talking about something midterm?
• 23:45
  And immediacy was like three days out to three weeks. Okay? And then the error range is always the same size. So we had a three week error range. So, ultimately, it could actually show up six weeks out because frequently there were these outliers that would do just that.
• 24:01
  Midterm was from the end of the third week out to about the nineteenth month. Okay? But most of the action was in that first six months. And then long term was nineteen months out infinity. And and so it it was a, you know, it was a rigor.
• 24:17
  It was a a discipline. I had metrics to it all, and and I just went through looking through all the language and, you know, it sort of worked out.
• 24:25
  Seth Holehouse: And it's interesting. So where we're at right now, and this is what, you know, I I appreciate when I've I've listened to you. And I'll make sure to put your links to your your BitShoot and your Substack in the description for the show so folks can follow you as well. But I I think that, you know, a lot of people when COVID hit, their entire world went upside down. It's like and it it woke a lot of people up.
• 24:48
  They realized, wow, it's like what you said, you x y and z is what forms the stability of our reality. And so x and y, which is to say the trust in the government, trust in, you know, the big medical institutions, trust in media, whatever, you know, all at once all of these things just got shattered. And for a lot of people, you know, lot of folks I talk to when I travel and speak and I ask people, I say, so what what was your moment that really kind of shook you and woke you up? And most people say it was the beginning of the pandemic. And so if if we look at where we're at right now, and there there's it seems like that they're still trying to figure, okay, how do we get back to normal again?
• 25:26
  How do we get back to how things were in 02/2010? And whereas from my perspective, it's like everything is changing like that we will never live that way again. And I don't want to live that way again. I don't want to live in the illusion where Hollywood and the corporations are all being run by the evil globalists and Satanists and like, I don't want to enter back into that. I want to enter into a world where the people see through all that and they fall, right?
• 25:51
  And we overcome it. And so as we're looking at what's happening with the with the banks, and you know, really where we're headed next, you know, a lot of the mainstream perspectives like, maybe it's gonna be a recession or a few banks might fail and then the government's gonna step in, right? Whereas I'm like, for me, it's like, I've got sirens going off saying, okay, dollars gonna collapse, like, you know, governments are gonna collapse and I don't wanna be a fearmonger, but wanna be really realistic. And so, you know, for you, because you've seen this coming for quite some time, help us understand where we're at on that timeline. Like, where are we at in history and what does the next say, two to three years look like from your perspective?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Okay. So in in our history, we're approaching a point that has never existed before. Alright? So this is gonna be different. So we can we could map our coming economic woe to any previous depression, any previous recession, and it would only be marginally adequate as a map because we've never gone through this before.
• 26:57
  So we as a humanity, we've had many currency crashes. We've had the the actually, we've had repeated currency crashes here in The United States, right, as they took us off the gold standard, as they eventually withdrew silver and gold from money, and all of this kind of stuff. Right? And we've had the crash of the sovereign British pound, the silver backed pound the British had, all of this kind of stuff. They've all crashed, but they've all done so within relative isolation.
• 27:28
  Yes. We've had ripples from the crashes here in in The United States, but it has never been a, basically, a pan global event. Now it's gonna be about one third of the of the planet is gonna go through this with us, right, which is the collapse of the of the fern, the Federal Reserve note. Because what's gonna happen is that will die, and we will be have a dollar revealed to us. So it I think we're at peak government.
• 27:57
  I think we've passed peak government, and we're going down to the point where we will throw away a lot of what we've had as government. And this is gonna be a very necessarily messy period of time for many years. So I would expect that we'll still be dealing with hardcore remnant antifa in a few years unless we go to this extreme level that impacts everybody. And it we seem to be shading that way now. So we could imagine a situation where things limped along with a limped along government like that we've got now and that they cheat again and get in again.
• 28:32
  Right? And everybody knows they're selected. They're put there by the WEF, and and they still do their their deal, but gradually, it's just wearing down, grinding down the way that East Germany did as opposed in its collapse as opposed and even to a certain extent, the Soviet system was a situation it was it was hollowed out from the inside by currency manipulation that came from the outside. But nonetheless, there was a generalized degradation of everything functioning that took over in the last twenty five years of the seventy two years of the Soviet experiment. And so it was just degrading as ours is.
• 29:08
  So what's gonna happen in my opinion is that we're at a at a point in time where we will go through several rough years as the fern disappears. And it won't disappear and just die and not be there. It'll be like confederate money, which traded for some months after there was officially no longer any kind of a confederate government. So I suspect we'll still be dealing in dollars at some point. I think a lot of the digital dollars will simply disappear, and that will be very horrific for people.
• 29:37
  Seth Holehouse: Folks, I've got a quick message for you. As you'll see this in this discussion that we're having, the times ahead could be rough. It's what he calls the big ugly and I look, I have to agree. There's a few ways that we really need to solidify or and stabilize ourselves to make sure that when things get kind of tough, we've got what it needs to get through. One of those things is protecting our finances.
• 30:02
  Look, you know, as you see with Cliff High, not just him, but a lot of other people, we're at the end of the age of the dollar. We're at the end of this fiat currency system. It's it's on life support. And if you have a lot of your assets sitting somewhere in the US dollar, you might wanna reconsider what you're gonna do with that money. For one, as you we'll talk about later in the interview, moving those assets into tangible items, food, ammunition, seeds, etcetera are very, very important.
• 30:29
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• 31:19
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• 31:28
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• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of the digital dollars will simply disappear and that will be very horrific for people.
• 31:53
  Seth Holehouse: Meaning like, you know, what's in your bank account, etcetera, right? You're when you log on somewhere and it says, oh, you've got $400,000 in your IRA, that that's the stuff that just kind of evaporates overnight. Right? Is that what you're you're saying?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Well, there's there's a couple of levels of evaporation of it, though. Right? So they may well still have those digits. But what if we get into the period where it actually is hyperinflation? So right now, we've got inflation that is taking away from you between 840% of your purchasing power annually depending on where you're measuring it from.
• 32:27
  Right? And if you measure it against energy, it's much closer to the 40%. You know, gas prices going up, electricity, all of these kind of things, and we're approaching a point of scarcity. That's really gonna impact us. So we could see that the money could still be there in a digital fashion.
• 32:45
  But if we get into the hyper part where people know this is happening and so they get their paycheck and say they're a school teacher, and they get their paycheck and they try and spend it in that first half of that day to get whatever purchasing power may be in that paycheck. Right? So the behavior of the humans on moss changes. That's hyperinflation. If we go that route, then we can see that they might still have the digits in the bank account saying that they've got the 400,000, but that that 400,000 might be like in Weimar, Germany, where you could maybe get a latte, but they wouldn't put a sprinkle on top.
• 33:22
  Right? So that's that's you know, either way, the digits disappear or it has no purchasing power, we're headed to the point where it has no purchasing power. This is what we have to deal with. I suspect okay. So I know, factually, certainly, that there are people that have been planning for this and they have various different approaches to this.
• 33:44
  Okay? In fact, I my my data started picking something up in the year well, right there with the 09/11. Very first run we ever did or when I did this in I started collecting the data in 1994. It took me three years to build up the mass and write all the code and start getting into it. So by '97, I had a data mass that I went through that ultimately yielded because I had to form the basis against which I could examine new language.
• 34:15
  And so that was like my large language model, and then the incoming stuff was the dailies that I would do sweeping on. And that's what led to the 09/11 forecast, which I put out on, like, June 11 of that year, something like that. Right? And I said it would happen within the next eighty five days, and it did. My numbers were flipped in my algorithm, so I thought it would happen closer to June as opposed to closer to September.
• 34:36
  Right? And so I'd I'd shipped it. And but if I just went back after it happened, I went back and corrected it. Boom. It lined up just perfect.
• 34:44
  So, anyway, though, our our our future uncertain and horrific as potential that we can see now is not without individuals that have also seen this that have taken corrective steps. Right? And I term this a self organizing collective. And and maybe I'm batshit crazy, Maybe I'm just seeing stuff that isn't there, but I'm seeing patterns that suggest that there are people that are doing things as they may. And I actually think that those things that they are doing are coordinated, planned, not just organic, although there is some of that.
• 35:37
  Right? But there there are planned elements that are going forward. So for instance, a very key one is that we were on a track where they were going to withdraw through the fifties, which they did, all the silver out of circulation and all the gold out of circulation to get us to a central bank digital currency, and their their target was a lot earlier than we're facing now. Right? And somebody came along and threw a big monkey wrench in their plans because the plans were that the Federal Reserve was going to take the gold in Fort Knox and use it and basically spend it out.
• 36:15
  Okay? But in 1963, in November, they the evil ones here shot Kennedy, had Kennedy assassinated the deep state. And by early nineteen sixty four, an act was put in that that, in that act, allowed Americans to have gold certificates, private gold certificate ownership. From that point on, all the gold was encumbered. And so they couldn't do that because it was acting as insurance on all these certificates, which they ballooned up over time and done all this other stuff too.
• 36:54
  But, nonetheless, it's my thinking that that one act in 1964, which and the gold certificate part of it that tied it to to Fort Knox is way down in the implementation details. I think that was done deliberately to keep the gold here because somebody knew what they were attempting to do. And you see these things happen all the time. You know, boy, that worked out, but for them, but, hey, not really because of. Right?
• 37:18
  And so everything they do is unraveling around them because I think people know they're going to be doing it, they're watching it, and they're there to make sure that it unravels. So in that sense, I'm seeing a pattern that says that it's gonna be horrific, it's gonna be terrible for us, but it is not without some level of mitigation being done at a at least a large aspect of our society. So the self organizing collective has some power and is able to motivate people and get things done such that it's not quite as bad as as it would have been. And my my chief example of that is Operation Warp Speed. So if you I actually saw it, and I should have saved it.
• 38:06
  Well, I wouldn't have done any good. That computer died. But I saw a video that was sent to me of Fauci's chief of staff at a World Economic Forum meeting in 02/2016 bragging about having put the spike protein onto a coronavirus shell. He bragged about it. We did it.
• 38:25
  We did it. It took us five years. We did it. We did it. And it's like, at that at the time I saw that video, it was meaningless to me.
• 38:33
  Right? Because this was, like, maybe maybe it was early two thousand nineteen. It's like, okay. I don't care. You know?
• 38:41
  And then now, of course, it's very meaningful indeed. So so people are aware of the things that are being done, and there is a countering going on. And we're in the in the process of going through this giant unrestricted warfare at a level that will be only be able to to be comprehended after it's done reading all of the history books where everybody compiles it. It is so complex and so vast. And and to a certain extent, we're fighting a war that goes back to December.
• 39:17
  '12 hundred and '80 AD was when the Russians attacked the Khazarians to try and eliminate the problem that the Khazarians had created for the Russians. And, and people just don't give credence to the idea that this war has been going on that long, and we're hopefully in the in the last few years of it. So, I mean, it's gonna be funny guy. It's gonna be really strange. Our projections are for a a rough three years, and then, actually, I think it'll pick up for us emotionally in 2024.
• 39:51
  I think we'll have some positive physical manifestations to keep us positive, that there will be stuff that will be done. There's but but it's not gonna be ubiquitous. Right? So it's gonna be a long, hard progress here because our society's been invaded. About eight at least 18 or 20% of the social order has been really screwed up in their minds by the way in which this invasion occurred, this weaponized Munchausen by proxy, And we have to deal with that.
• 40:27
  We have to as a social order, we've gotta deal with these individuals. We've got to provide them what comfort and care and correction we may do so.
• 40:37
  Seth Holehouse: And so based, you know, you know, going back to what you said about the Fern, you know, Federal Reserve note that we're at the end of that system. And so, you know, of looking ahead that, you know, right now is just kind of the beginnings of what's happening to the banks. I actually just saw this morning that the Deutsche Bank, right, which I know that you were talking about months ago saying, watch the German banks. Right now they're saying the Deutsche Bank, which is German's number one largest bank, which I think has close to a trillion, you know, maybe $700,000,000,000 in, I think, in depository and whatever money it's managing, which would be absolutely significant. So you think that over the next couple of months, we're going to see this contagion really hit and that will, like the, basically the collapse of the kind of debt based fiat currency known as the the US dollar, which has become the world reserve currency, has infected every part of the world that that will fall and it's going to pull down all kinds of structures with it.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: That's correct. The we're at a point where the Federal Reserve is actually battling against the European banks to try and save itself as it does so. The European banks are taking a huge hit, Deutsche Bank particularly, in derivatives. Okay. Deutsche Bank was the main conduit for derivatives throughout Europe.
• 41:58
  And so when the derivative monster dies, Deutsche Bank will die with it. So if they've got let's just say that they had 10,000,000,000,000 in deposits, it's probably only a small fraction of the derivatives that they're they're on the book for. And so they sold derivatives up into Norway. They sold them into Finland. They sold them in into Russia.
• 42:17
  And so they you know, so derivatives are are weird second, third, fourth, and fifth hand bets on circumstances, and they sold these to unwitting, unsophisticated people that were like, you know, city councils in a small village. Oh, put all your retirement into this derivative. We'll give you this amount of return over this amount of years. Right? And, oh, that looks great to us.
• 42:43
  And it's backed by, you know but, of course, it's not backed by anything. And so the derivative layer is far larger than if we were to look at it, we've got derivatives on top of everything, then we've got bonds underneath that, then we've got interbank interconnections in terms of their loaning to each other for liquidity. And then all the way down at the bottom of the banking system is cash in terms of volume. And so there's very little cash in circulation, and this is actually coming back to bite the Federal Reserve in the butt. And they're in a position where they really need to kick cash up because they're doing overnight repos to try and stabilize the banking system where they buy your debt and give you supposed digits.
• 43:29
  But the problem is those digits at the banking level are now trying to go out into cash as as fast as they can as people start tumbling to what's going on. Right? And so I I'm a regular human, so I'm paranoid about my local bank now that Yellen says it won't survive. So I'm trying to drain down all of my assets out of that bank. It's not good for the bank, but as a and I know this.
• 43:51
  I know it's gonna cooperate with everybody else and and kill that bank, but as an individual, I've gotta save my life's work that's been stored in in digits. Right? So I'm I'm trapped like everybody else. The fern okay. So I'm of the opinion that the fern's gonna die, and it'll replaced by a treasury dollar.
• 44:10
  How long that takes to happen, I don't know. But the the staggering thing here was that back in February, I got these datasets that were just quite insistent that we would see $6 or or $600 an ounce silver. And it was like, oh, that's staggering. Right? Everybody says, oh, you're crazy, and I've been getting this.
• 44:28
  You're crazy stuff for twenty plus years. But now we're at a point where as soon as the silver manipulation breaks, as soon as they're no longer able to control that and it goes seeking a price, it will go through $600 just screaming, you know, as it goes towards a thousand, 2 thousand, 3 thousand. And it may well hit parity with gold, which was something else that my datasets had suggested. Now this was back in the year February. We had some initial solar industry and stuff going, but we didn't have electric vehicles.
• 45:00
  We didn't have any of the chip production the way we do now. And all of this stuff requires silver in vast quantities. And so there was no way that I knew then in the year February we would be heading towards a a functional silver shortage. So we're getting to that point where there's now actually enough silver demand that it's starting to impact on the ability to use silver as a an industrial metal both in price and availability. All of this stuff with the firm is gonna change our world.
• 45:30
  It's not just gonna be in the nature of a, oh, you can't go and buy a coffee for under $40. Okay? It's not just that. It's that the death of the fern means China isn't gonna wanna send ships full of stuff to us. Right?
• 45:45
  No more cheap shit from China. It means that your energy costs are gonna go through the roof. It means that we're gonna have to do everything here, which means there's gonna be a couple generations that are gonna have to do hard work, and they don't know how to do it. We have to build factories. We've gotta start digging mines.
• 46:01
  We've gotta invent new oil drilling techniques and so on. The good news is we've got all the resources here to do that. We can recover and go on to be extremely successful in a relatively short period of time once we get the invading Wakonians off our back. Right? Once we get this weaponized Munchausen by proxy out of our heads and start looking at reality as it is, we should be able to move fairly quickly because we have a lot of resources and we got a lot of smarts.
• 46:30
  There's a couple of things we don't have, and and so we're gonna have to retool. So we're gonna have to redo all of our manufacturing tools and equipment. Right? There's this also affects the war. Okay?
• 46:47
  So we're in fifth generation unrestricted warfare. The unrestricted warfare began in the late seventies when the CCP decided they were going to destroy the American social order, and they started invading us. Alright? They invaded us through our schools first and then our other institutions, and then eventually they got hooked up with the WEF, and they started buying politicians and putting them into place and so on. Right?
• 47:15
  And so we've been infiltrated since at least the late nineteen seventies. I I can find in Chinese Communist Party literature from 1978, '19 '70 '9 discussions about the how they will implement the invasion of The United States. And that was at that point that we start hearing the term unrestricted warfare, such as flooding us with fentanyl. So last year in the last year, they've killed more Americans than died in the entire eighteen years of Vietnam, and they did it with fentanyl. You know, this is horrific.
• 47:50
  This is an assault. They've they've poisoned our water. They're buying our farmland and trying to and they've subsumed our system. They're gaming our system against us. So in my state here, we've got a bunch of the communists that have taken over.
• 48:07
  We've been conquered by the Democrats for forty plus years. The Democrats themselves in this state have been subsumed by socialists and communists for forty plus years, and we have them doing the the faint activity. So they're gonna try and they passed a a weapons ban for assault rifles here and you know, which has nothing to do with anything they ever say about it. They it only has to do with protecting us from the politicians and the invading Chinese. Right?
• 48:36
  That's why we have the second amendment, so we can shoot the bastards when they invade or when they get uppity and try and and infiltrate and take us over. And so but what they do is they pass the law knowing it'll take a certain amount of time to undo, and in the meantime, they try and game the system and and do everything they can while that law is in a limbo state. And so it's interesting. Now with ChatGPT, you can go and ask it. If you phrase it right.
• 49:03
  You can ask it, how long does it take on average to defeat an item repugnant to the constitution that is attacking the second amendment? And CHAT GPT will run this little thing and say, well, in the last twenty years, it averages out to one point eight six years before it's overthrown in in a court somewhere. So you can find these things out, which which you take these facts and you feed it back to these people, and it knocks the morale right out of them, right, if they're thinking they're gonna get five, maybe ten years of of law activity out of this. So so we can fight against them, and we're doing so here in Washington state. But we're gonna have to get rid of all of them and get get ourselves right with reality before we can proceed.
• 49:49
  I I actually alright. So I like to fight. So I'm really an American that way. Right? Americans like to fight.
• 49:58
  I like to fight. This is a good fight. This is probably the best ever fight. I wanted to have a fight when I when this life came along. And so I'm very pleased that we're into it now because I shall not lose.
• 50:13
  Right? I'm not gonna lose this fight. And so with that attitude, it's gonna be an amazing planet after we're done because we're gonna throw away all of that stuff going back to even before Einstein. We're gonna get rid of the e equals m c squared crap, get a a good view on reality, and I'm gonna get flying RVs here. Right?
• 50:33
  And be able I mean, it's stupid. Right? I just want an RV to be able to go and do fishing, and and I got friends in Germany and Switzerland, but I don't wanna fly in an airplane. I hate those damn things. You know, I'm just not a big fan of rockets.
• 50:46
  Yeah.
• 50:50
  Seth Holehouse: It's it's interesting. That's a whole different topic going into, hidden technology, forbidden technology, and even some, like, really basic things that you look back and like like the I think they called the Trump system, the Trump, right, where they were able to use these underground chambers with with with water and air to create energy. Like, it's an all you know, it's it's amazing stuff. But, you know, you mentioned unrestricted warfare and, you know, right now, actually just this morning, was watching a news segment where they're seeing an unprecedented number of Chinese nationals coming across our Southern border and they're basically, you know, illegally coming in, but if you watch the videos of them, you will not see a single woman, child, or elderly person. They're all middle aged men.
• 51:37
  Right? And so if we go back They're all trained.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Exactly. They're all
• 51:41
  Seth Holehouse: These are soldiers. This is fifth it's fifth column. Right?
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They're actually coming over from the Northern border too.
• 51:48
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Up in Canada.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Nobody's where nobody's aware of that. We've got them coming in from Canada. And in fact, when they come in from Canada, they come in in buses. Okay? So they shut it down in COVID, but there were rumors of Chinese troops training in British Columbia up here, the province north of Washington state, right, for maybe two years before COVID, and we had lots of videos of these guys.
• 52:15
  Military people, camouflage, training, live ammo, the whole deal, all Chinese. And they made various different the Canadian government, you know, put out a bunch of disinfo to try and get rid of it. But I've got friends of mine that are up in Blaine and up in some of these border areas where I don't know why it works out this way, where they're coming from, but these buses will refuel once they come over the the border. And he has he is I'm quite certain he's factual because of where he's at, what he does, and stuff. But he has seen a number of these buses absolutely packed with all Chinese, including Chinese drivers.
• 52:56
  And one guy that that was a Chinese driver that didn't know what he was doing on the fueling, So he hadn't been in country very long. So it it really, you know, it it makes one wonder. Right? Makes one buy more ammo.
• 53:12
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. I I just ordered a few thousand rounds this past week. I was stacking it up this morning. So one one thing that I want to also talk to you about is central bank digital currency because, you know, I've I've studied China for quite some time and the CCP specifically, I I know their social credit system very well in the surveillance state, and I believe that's the greatest threat if they get that into place. I think there's a of reasons why I think they don't think they will, but I wanted to talk to you because so what if I take a step back and I look at where we're at in the life cycle of the Federal Reserve note, the collapse of that currency, the WEF, you know, the communists, they also, I think they have access to a lot more than we do.
• 53:54
  They know the cycles, they know what's coming. And the great reset, I don't believe the great reset is something that they planned. It's more so that they're trying to, they're trying to take, they're trying to capture the momentum of a collapsing system with their plans and then seize control amidst that. Like that's how I kind of look at it. They're, they know things are collapsing.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: I would agree. So their
• 54:12
  Seth Holehouse: great reset is just, okay, how can we take control of it? It's not like they're causing all of it, they're just trying to take control of the building that's collapsing and then put it into something that they have control over. And so with the, you know, the collapse of the of the US dollar, which will cascade into all a lot of other currencies, especially the European currencies, I believe their plan is to then come in and say, Oh, look, you know, it's a failed fiat system. We knew it had a life cycle. So we're gonna replace it with this central bank digital currency.
• 54:40
  And, you know, along with that comes the, you know, sort of credit score and the, you know, vaccine, you know, digital passports and all that kind Right?
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: The BIS says, absolute control. It gives us fourth expression of money.
• 54:53
  Seth Holehouse: Yes.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: It's what they call it.
• 54:55
  Seth Holehouse: You think that that's going succeed? I'll you go now.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: No. Okay. So you're correct about all of this, except I would disagree that they don't have any control over it collapsing. So they thought it was gonna collapse at 2030, and for their own reasons, they're trying to do it now. They're accelerating it now.
• 55:12
  So they were sort of like, you know, like a catcher. They're they're ready to catch the ball, but but now they sort of ran forward to try and catch it further and to do something more. Okay? No. I don't believe it'll succeed.
• 55:24
  And one of the interesting things was in the first probably three years or four years of running my data in the year starting in the year February, kept coming up with all kinds of money stuff. It it so in February, I knew that there was gonna be a new kind of money that was gonna be invented, and it would show up sometime after 02/2005. And this was the cryptos, okay, that appeared in 02/2008, and it kept warning us. During that period of time, I kept getting datasets that said, well, the dollar's gonna crash, and the powers that be are gonna offer us three replacements. And they're gonna offer a replacement, and we're gonna reject it.
• 56:01
  And then they're gonna quickly come up with another replacement that's sorta like the first one, and we're gonna reject that one. And then they're gonna offer us a third one in the midst of the final battles of of a great war, and everybody's just gonna get out of here. You know, we're not even gonna look at it. Right? So so in the year February, it was talking about the digital currency coming out, and it made no sense to read that language because we didn't have any of the concepts that would have allowed us to I mean, we didn't have well, we had ATMs and stuff, but we didn't have the ubiquitous nature of cards and everything the way we do things.
• 56:36
  Seth Holehouse: So, sorry. So your program in February was predicting the emergence of digital currency in the coming, you know, decade or two, before even the whole concept of digital currency was even there.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Correct. And and it was okay. So so here's the thing. So in the very so in order for my system to work, I had to go through dictionary, and I had to define it to words, and I did it as automated as I could. I had to provide to words an association of where they were in the timing of everything, immediacy, long term, etcetera.
• 57:08
  Right? But I also had to tie them into all these emotions, so I had to go through all of this stuff. So it was very tedious. And so I started working on it in '94, and I was still working on it in 02/2008. It took that long to go through dictionary.
• 57:21
  And then I was able to transfer it to other languages relatively easily. Right? There were some stuff you'd have to go through because the emotional components of some words in German are not the same as that same word in English. Right? Anyway, though, so in doing so, in going through all of the language there, there was so in in the 02/2011 forecast, I didn't I hadn't gotten up to the point where I was in the t's of you know, because I started at a and started working my way up towards z.
• 57:50
  Right? So I didn't have terrorism listed there. And so the data sets came back to me, my large language model, very much like chat GPT gets things it tries to make this linkage and it just presents it to you. And it presented to me that there was going to be an event that was gonna come up. And and like I said, it it showed it within the next eighty five days, and this event would involve a military accident.
• 58:17
  Nine eleven, the airplanes. Right? The supposed airplane that hit the Pentagon. A military accident because it was an attack, but we didn't have terrorism defined. I hadn't got anywhere near the t's.
• 58:28
  I'd just gotten into the m's. And that was the best the language could do. That was the same kind of thing I ran into with the descriptions for all of the current set of of digital crud we're going through now. None of the concepts existed at the time that the large language model was trying to provide me with the links that I could interpret to describe those context. So I knew we were gonna have three new money systems.
• 58:54
  I knew they were gonna be digital. I had all kinds of details about what this might involve, but none of it made any sense at all. And at that point in the processing, I was cautious. And so I threw away a lot of stuff as being, oh, you know, I've got an algorithm off somewhere. It's bringing in this stuff.
• 59:11
  It shouldn't or whatever. Right? So that it was not necessarily seen as pertinent. So even in the year February, I probably could have come up if I'd really examined it with, you know, the central bank digital currency as a label. But I just put it down as three new systems, and their big push on the first new system was gonna take us a few months to get rid of.
• 59:32
  And then the second system would go in maybe a month and a half, and then the last system they offer would would be gone the same day that they proffered it. Just total rejection. Right? And so that's sort of our future relative to that. But in the midst of all of this, of course, we're gonna get our 600 an ounce silver, you know, and all of the other screaming precious metals prices.
• 59:55
  And, you know, at that point too in the datasets, even before we had Satoshi's white paper, so 02/2005 maybe, I'd have to go and look at some of my notes, somewhere in there, 02/2005 to 02/2007, before the financial crisis, there was a suggestion that there was gonna be a people's money, that we were gonna have a new money. And I thought it was probably something off of gold, you know, just, of course, because I'm trying to match it against my own experience. And we didn't have the white paper, we didn't have the concept of and I knew all about double spend. You just couldn't couldn't do anything with digital money because you could always spend it more than once. And, you know, Satoshi's paper solved that.
• 1:00:35
  Anyway and so the but the data sets were telling us that we were going to have a a new form of people's money. Now, I tracked that people's money long enough through the the acquisition of data for all those years to be able to tie it to cryptos. And so I got into Bitcoin very early. Alright? It was difficult to get Bitcoin when it was 10¢ each because there was no markets, there were no extensions, or no exchanges or any of this.
• 1:01:01
  It had to be on a personal level, but that's when I got in. Right? I knew about Bitcoin before it even hit 1p. And I was watching it because I thought, maybe this is our our people's money. There was something in those data sets though that appeared let's see.
• 1:01:16
  That would have been maybe it was 02/2009 or 02/2010. And so we're just getting into Bitcoin. It was barely a concept, had just started to be implemented. And I was getting data sets saying that this people's money would be used for it would be so valuable that it would be used for international settlements to save the cost of moving vast quantities of gold back and forth. And that at some point, the individual units, we didn't even know what to call them at that point, right, of of the people's money would be worth more than a million dollars each.
• 1:01:54
  Much more because it would be used for international settlements. It would be so valuable that countries where the governments didn't get into it, they would go to the citizens and try and make deals to buy these these whatevers. Again, I didn't know it was Bitcoin at that point, from the citizens in order to be able to do international trade effectively. And so it's like, wow. I gotta get me one of those.
• 1:02:18
  You know? I want some of these things. And then along came Bitcoin, and it met all the criteria, and so I started getting into Bitcoin at that stage. So it's been an interesting ride. I mean, for for me personally, I've had validation after validation after validation that the datasets are indeed accurate.
• 1:02:36
  And it's a terrible validation as well because if you think about the nature of my technology here, you could apply that, and I did once. Once, I applied it to an individual. Okay? So, I was in some, financial straits because of the cost. I had not anticipated the electrical cost and everything on my first big run.
• 1:03:01
  I was I was down in the hole of a few thousands of dollars on this, hadn't made any money off of this thing and and this sort of thing. And this guy came to my rescue, and I agreed to do a private run for him on a person. I've never done one on a person. I've done it for companies at that stage, you know, just doing a big data model to get their their, like, rep online, that sort of thing, for their PR departments or for their research departments. And that's really where I thought I was heading with this, was just as a large language model, very much like ChatGPT, only focused on me doing the work.
• 1:03:37
  Right? Anyway, though, so this guy bails me out. I agree to do the run, and I'm into the the run just a few days, and I get some really terrible news. And so I I tell him, you know, that you got some terrible news here. Something's coming up.
• 1:03:52
  And then a week later, his wife was killed in a bomb attack that was meant for him in India. Okay? So I knew it was coming. I was still working on it. And, course, at that point, I abandoned it, and I've never done one since.
• 1:04:07
  Because had I been able to do that, could I have saved her? Probably not. That's not really the way that things work. Right? I don't think.
• 1:04:14
  I'm hoping anyway. But but it is that powerful that you could do that. And so that part of the program and everything I destroyed after that. Totally destroyed all the code that would allow you to modify this for an individual. There were a few non obvious things that had to be done, and I'm hoping that they'll always remain a secret.
• 1:04:34
  But it is that powerful as well. But it's not gonna do it for, you know, the guy down the the block that works at Safeway. The only way reason that this works is that you have this high enough presence that people are talking about you and these words get combined around you. So you can do it very easily with Bill Gates, but, hey, all of us know what his future is. So, you know, no need to to to go to the trouble.
• 1:05:00
  But, you know, somebody like yourself, you could do it at that level if you have that that presence, but I don't think anybody really wants to know.
• 1:05:09
  Seth Holehouse: No. I I certainly don't. It's like yeah. I I I and there's been all kinds of different sci fi writers and and TV shows and movies that explored the concept of of this. And it it all it almost always ends bad knowing the future.
• 1:05:26
  So but, you know, one thing that, you know, for you know, you see that you see that we're entering into this, you know, what you call the big ugly. Right? And I also agree. I think that it's but I look at it almost in a way, and this is where I think that I differ and I think that your perspective differs also from people like I've interviewed Martin Armstrong as an example, or, you know, Charles Ninn or people that are the big economic cycles guys. And they're saying that like, we're at the end of the empire, and it's really bad, and it's bleak.
• 1:05:54
  Right? Whereas like what I've gotten from you and also my perspective is that, well, no, like right now, we're like, it's like our society is a body that has cancer, like really deeply into it. And we're going through a process of removing that. And that's why it's the big ugly. That's why it sucks and there's a lot of difficulty.
• 1:06:14
  But then on the other side, once we detox from that, which is in the body, that there's some sort of there's some sort of future for us that is a world that's not within the bounds of this, you know, Plato's cave. Realistically, we're we're escaping Plato's cave that we've been in for for generations and generations and generations. We haven't known true science, true history, anything. It's all been kept from us. But the the gatekeepers of all those secrets are now the ones that are on the edge of losing control.
• 1:06:44
  So what are you what are your thoughts about that?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: So so I I agree with you with your impression of Netter and Armstrong. They do indeed project that. And and so I've and I agree with you that their perception is accurate. You know, that it's doom and gloom and terrible and all of this, but only if you have an emotional attachment to the old empire.
• 1:07:04
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Which the more you learn about the old empire, for me, the easier it is to like, I don't want to go back to, you know, like being indoctrinated in schools and run by big pharma and stolen elections. Like, I want to go somewhere without that. Oh, gosh.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Right. Look how bad our lives are. Right? And that's all comes from this end of the dollar stuff. So personally, you know, I mean, when you detox, there's that what what do they call that?
• 1:07:29
  The Herxheimer reaction? Yeah. Herx reaction. Yeah. We're gonna go through some really nasty stuff, but we've gotta get all this stuff out of the body politic, including the bad food, including the chemtrails, including the bad water.
• 1:07:42
  We gotta go through and anybody that puts fluoride in water should be, you know, hauled up and put on charges and go to jail, that kind of thing. Right? We need to have a realistic appraisal of who we are, what we are, and how to deal with this on a realistic basis. So I'm all for optimism at this particular point because so I've lived all my all my childhood life inside the military industrial complex as an army brat at a very high level with the shit my dad got into. All over the planet seeing this stuff.
• 1:08:15
  So I saw the system and and knew that it had to die. It was not a good thing that that the military ran this way. I understood why they had to, etcetera, but you get to see all of the stupidity of the money allocations and that kind of thing. Right? And as a kid, so I'm I'm with you on that.
• 1:08:32
  It's good that this will die. I don't think of it as a cancer, though. I I we've been invaded. We've got all these problems. We've got mental illness and all of that.
• 1:08:40
  It's
• 1:08:40
  Seth Holehouse: more like parasite.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Right? Well, no. No. I don't even think of it as an affliction that way. I think of it as a rite of passage.
• 1:08:47
  Uh-huh. So, you know, in in your life, likely, you never faced death in your teens. Okay? So you never had a rite of passage. Men used to do that, and many men did not survive because it is necessary that you face that at that time.
• 1:09:06
  We used to have war as a rite of passage. You would send a a young man off to Vietnam, and you would not get a young man back even if he was there for a very short period of time. Right? It was what you what you saw that altered you and made you different. And but that rite of passage was valuable because it made you the man that you became later on.
• 1:09:29
  And so we are not ourselves without our wounds. Without having been wounded, you don't know how to heal and grow. And so our body politic, in my opinion, it it doesn't have a disease so much as it has been wounded, has been assaulted. And we need to heal. But but when we heal, you always have that scar to remind you, don't be a dumb son of a bitch again.
• 1:09:55
  Right? And so that's what I think our body politic is going through, that we're going through a healing phase, And we've got a lot of wounded individuals, many of whom will not survive these next few years because they're deep into the old empire. Right? And they can't see any way to exist without it, so they will figure out some way to not exist without it because it is definitely going. That that shrillness that you hear out of all of the those minds, the trans, the other people, the far lefties, the progressive communist, anti fa, that shrillness and and shrieking is basically their death agony because their minds are in rebellion to the changes that they feel coming to them.
• 1:10:39
  I see this in the language constantly now that Twitter's been opened up. Right? And you see the reaction to the to the I mean, the fragility of the people reacting to other people just stating it's a woman or, yeah, it's a guy, dude, you know. And and they go totally batshit. This is these are minds that can't deal with our reality.
• 1:11:00
  And our reality is gonna get really ugly in a real fast period of time, just months. And it's already started. Deutsche Bank, they'll bail it out. But even then, it's just yet another Band Aid, yet another limping, and, we get three or four of them going down in a single day. There may not be bailouts at that point, and then it's really gonna cascade.
• 1:11:22
  I think that's May. I think we're only weeks away from that. And as it comes on up, then we hit this real wall, and that is what's the federal government going to do? This massive spend everything, you know, spending beyond our understanding because they don't tell us half of what they're actually spending. And they're not gonna have it.
• 1:11:43
  That there's gonna be a very serious element of rapidity in in the events from May through July and and August because some of these agencies work on a month by month basis. Right? Some of them are quarterly. Some of them are a little bit longer than that, six months biannually, and so on. But we're gonna start seeing a cascading effect hitting government in May without funding.
• 1:12:10
  And it's gonna be really strange. It's you know, we're already seeing it in some areas where there were contracts for we have in our county, we have these, guys that get the prisoners out of the jails. They make them clean up along the road if they want. Right? Get you out, you walk around, and so on.
• 1:12:28
  Well, the vans that do that are on a contract for the gasoline. Very soon, the gasoline will exceed what the contract was written for, so they won't be able to do that. That'll also affect school buses and transportation and all of these different kinds of effects are going to spread as the currency becomes that much more degraded. And then then we're gonna have to play catch up. So what will the the governments do when the cost of fuel is twice what is maximally allowed on the contract, and they don't have the ability to kick it out another month?
• 1:13:02
  They're just not gonna buy fuel and that stuff just won't get done. And I think that starts in May and June and July.
• 1:13:09
  Seth Holehouse: And so it's almost like the the all the gears that have been oiled through this fiat currency realistically, that oil runs out and everything just comes to a screeching halt. And what's interesting that you to kind of look at that, take a step back and it's it's like, well what comes to a screeching halt? Well by and by and large it's the it's the parasitic class. It's the the the giant bureaucracy, the the government, all of the the the people on these massive pensions and salaries and and unions that it's a lot of this really, think a lot of the communist, you know, kind of foundation of items and, you know, kind of going back and even the other, you know, pre communist, it's it's this really corrupt part of our society that in a lot of ways is the first to go. It's like they've used their corrupt banking system to fuel all of their corrupt systems that are used to maintain their control over the populace.
• 1:14:03
  And so when their banking system, it's like that's their fuel runs out. All of their machines or, you know, the oil. Right? Everything just stops working.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: It grinds down. Starts seizing up. Right? And bribery works that that way as well.
• 1:14:17
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: One of the okay. Back in, like, 02/2003 or 02/2004, I got really excited. I I thought it was only maybe a few years away, not this long. But one of the data sets that was persistent over time started relating the UFO issue to our economics. And it would bind them because basically the idea was that the secret UFO reverse engineering military industrial complex research facilities with all their scientists and all of this kind of stuff are gonna run out of money in this very first go around, and we will see scientists in in deep bunkers that are used to having money and food and stuff come on out and say, well, now what do I do?
• 1:14:59
  And they'll take that little alien thing with them and try and sell it on eBay. You know, that kind of thing. Right? So that we will have these guys coming out, and it will be a natural response to their circumstances to try and stay alive that they'll sell what they know, and then the rest of us will start knowing some of this stuff. And that the, the data was quite clear that the chaos of the time would be in a summer, which is very atypical.
• 1:15:25
  Right? So so since 02/2003 or so, it has forecast the end of the of the dollar system in the summer. All of the Wethonians, all of the parasitical class always do their harvest in fall.
• 1:15:38
  Seth Holehouse: In fall.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: That's when we Around
• 1:15:39
  Seth Holehouse: the Jewish holidays and yep.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: Right. Exactly. This we're in a Jewish holiday, but we're in the wrong Jewish holiday at this point for their harvest and their crash. But we're having our crash now, and it's gonna escalate through summer. It's gonna be very atypical, and it's gonna be a sure sign that they're not in control of this.
• 1:15:56
  Right? But, anyway, the the all of the stuff is lining up pretty precisely. So 02/2003, I get a dataset that said people are gonna crawl out of their holes because of desperation and sell us their UFO secrets. And that in that same summer, we're gonna have riots in The United States over food. And this was in 02/2003.
• 1:16:16
  Seth Holehouse: EBT cards running out.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Exactly. Well, even beyond that, availability. Look at all the food plants that have been destroyed. They want us to eat bugs, all of this stuff.
• 1:16:26
  All of this stuff is coming out now that was forecast in 02/2003, but in 02/2003, I wrote it down and put it in the reports and said, guys, you know, this is what the data is showing. I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't know how it could possibly be that people in The United States would riot over not having food, but that they would. One of those riots was described in some detail as being in an intersection of Delaware of Delaware and Maryland, and that the food riot would spill over into a government facility where people would break through a back wall, a back fence that was somehow there for construction purposes, and go into this building thinking there was food in there, and they would find a mob, you know, like angry rioting kind of thing, and they would find vast quantities of paper records about UFOs and stuff that they would be taking pictures of with their phone and dumping online and passing out to people and and this huge unexpected disclosure would occur. And that would happen in July or in August or September, late August or early September.
• 1:17:29
  And damn, look, you know, we're in a year where there could be food riots and where we do have the dollar dying and people could be in the deep holes in May getting their paycheck and it not be there in June. That kind of a thing. Right?
• 1:17:41
  Seth Holehouse: So it's almost as
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: I say one more thing. We know that this is occurring already because the military industrial complex is now having to bitch and moan about Congress about raising the value on some of these contracts and getting them money sooner. It's starting to grind down now.
• 1:17:59
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. It's almost one way of looking at it is that what we're entering into is we've lived in we've lived in lies, right? We've lived in in in you know, Plato's cave. But it's like in in so many different ways we're entering into this period, it's really could be described as like a great disclosure of the truth, where it is a massive disclosure of the truth that's been hidden from us. And the with it though falls all the lies.
• 1:18:26
  So it's like if you look at the institutions that will grind to a hole, there's your woke college stuff. There's your women's studies, all the things that are built on lies. They can't exist in a world that's not funded by lies and funded by fake money. So when all that disappears, all those things crumble around us. I think that we're left with truth and we're left with what how we should be living as as humans.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Okay. So I'm I'm a linguist. I'm a pain in the ass to deal with. So I will object to the word truth.
• 1:18:57
  Seth Holehouse: Okay.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: Okay? Because most most people don't understand. Truth does not relate to fact. There's fact, and then there's truth. If you examine it, really think about it, really, really think about it, examine all these things, you will find that truth is an emotion attached to something.
• 1:19:12
  So it is fair to say my truth or your truth. That's that is factual, that you can have a truth that is different from mine because truth is an emotional response to something out in your environment or something within you. Okay? So it is factual that x y z might exist. It is factual that I've got a metal cup here, but I don't have any emotional attachment to that metal cup.
• 1:19:32
  It's not my truth that this is a fact. Right? So so this was the nature of the stuff I had to get into. I went in much deeper in all of this stuff in that large language model. And basically, why I ended up working alone, I was driving everybody crazy because I had to go so deep in it.
• 1:19:51
  And then I would object because in order for me to keep doing this, I could not allow my thinking to go backwards, so to speak, and be at that higher level where I really hadn't analyzed it because I needed to get down and assign emotional values to all of the words that came in for intensity, for duration, for all of these different kinds of things. And in order to do that, I had to have a clear understanding of at least how I felt because all words go back to emotion. And then I had to get all kinds of people involved in in surreptitiously getting their emotional responses to various different words to make sure that I was doing it correctly. So so I do object to the word truth being used where you really wanna use the word facts. So we are coming in we actually are coming into a period of a new truth that that everybody will have a new truth about the new reality that's going to be facing us as we start looking at facts in ways that we've never done before because it has been deliberately obscured from us.
• 1:20:50
  And I think this is gonna be hugely liberating. A whole new world is out there for us to invent and create, and we're gonna get rid of all of the crap that's been weighing us down. And I I'm very excited to still be alive and and be able to participate in this, these next twenty years. It's just gonna be staggering. We gotta get through this, you know, this shitty part of the war these next couple of years.
• 1:21:14
  And it's, you know, just something you gotta do. Right? You gotta go in out. You gotta, you know, gotta clean out the septic pit. You know?
• 1:21:21
  It's something you know you gotta do, so you just grit your teeth and you go do it. And when you're done, you're done.
• 1:21:26
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. So do I have time for one more question? We've been going, you know, well past. Okay. Just I'm really enjoying this.
• 1:21:33
  So in looking at that, you're also I think a very practical person. And for people that are aware of what's coming, they're aware of, you know, like we, you know, we see the hurricane off on the horizon, and everyone else is like, Oh, there's this nice breeze. It's like, it's a hurricane coming. And so we're boarding up our houses, we're doing all those, know, getting water filled up or driving to, you know, the middle of America, right? What are some of the things that you are doing or you recommend that people do in terms of, you know, whether it relates to food or they're, you know, they've got all their money in the stock market or not necessarily, you're not giving financial advice, but knowing this is coming and you having the insight of this, how is it changing what you're doing right now to make sure that you're looking at this saying, you know what, I'm doing everything possible now to make sure that I make it to the other side of this big ugly?
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: So first thing you have to do is understand that at its core, it all relates to the money at this point in the big ugly. A lot of the big ugly is the emotional reality that I I got a jab and oh my god, it's in me. You know, now that I know the truth about it. That's a huge part of the big ugly. All the people dying, the the disabilities Disabilities, if you look at it, are just off the chart.
• 1:22:47
  1300% increase in reduction of work hours since the shots came out. So we're in a real world of hurt here. Okay? So we know it's gonna get ugly. So here's the thing.
• 1:22:59
  Money is an intermediate we have attachment to it. It's it's a useful thing, but it's not the thing we actually desire. Okay? We desire whatever we can buy with that money. So if you have money now, my advice on everything is to buy the stuff you're gonna need in the future.
• 1:23:19
  Okay? If you buy all the stuff you're gonna need in the future that you can possibly store in your little house the way I have, and you've got some money left over, then you can think about storing the purchasing power of that money for the future by buying something that's not dollars or fiat currency. Okay? As long as it's not dollars or fiat currency, it's instantly paying you for having it. So if I bought something right now, if I buy coffee and it costs me $5 a pound to buy coffee beans now, I'm much better off putting the $5 that way than putting $5 in gold with the expectation of buying the coffee beans later because maybe later the coffee beans will have escalated in price because of availability issues, not just because of the money itself.
• 1:24:03
  So so, really, it's the things you need now that you should be concentrating on getting. We're gonna come up to you know, we've got food issues. So, personally, I'm very paranoid. If I could store a year's worth of food, I would. Right?
• 1:24:16
  That's just the way it would would be for me if I could do that. So so my way of thinking is, you know, you need to store food, get yourself the water, get fuel if you need it. Maybe make some provisions for electricity. Right? Because I think we're gonna go through a period of time when our electrical grid will not be very stable.
• 1:24:34
  And then start worrying about any excess wealth in the form of, you know, putting it into something. And my recommendations are in order of potential appreciation would be Bitcoin, silver, and gold. Okay? So Bitcoin can potentially appreciate against the dollar further than silver will, And silver will appreciate further than gold, but they're all good. You could even buy copper.
• 1:25:01
  Okay? I mean, you could you could have copper. Any kind of a solid commodity that could be traded will be valuable in the future.
• 1:25:10
  Seth Holehouse: Very, very helpful. It's funny because that's, you know, I've I've changed my perspective of this. Like as I mentioned before, I just bought a couple thousand rounds of I think three zero eight and nine millimeter just to to set aside and, you know, maybe that was, you know, a thousand dollars. Right? And so before I was looking at it okay, I just spent money on that, whereas now I'm thinking, no, all I've done is I've taken that thousand dollars of value that's sitting in this fiat currency, I've transferred it into this ammunition, which is still worth a thousand dollars because it's more of a commodity.
• 1:25:39
  It's not going out and bought a painting that's, you know, a thousand dollars is actually worth nothing, right? But then also in the future, as the supply and demand changes, and if there is instability, I'm looking at thinking, okay, there's instability, people are gonna need more ammunition. So and then also we have inflation. So maybe in the future I can trade, you know, even say 50 of those rounds for the equivalent of what would now I could have bought for a thousand dollars, right? So that's how I'm kind of looking at it.
• 1:26:06
  I'm looking at like how can I it's no longer about how much money do I have sitting in the bank or how much, what's my total net worth in dollars? It's about well, you know, or say a, you know, a five gallon bucket of black beans, you know, dried back black beans that, like, what's that gonna be worth? Right? What are my chickens gonna be worth in the future? And then also, what is the silver gonna be worth?
• 1:26:28
  You know? So, yeah, it's it's very
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You can only you can only really, in my opinion, you can only really store a certain amount of metals. Okay? The reason, you know, lead, you know, three zero eight, nine millimeter rounds, sure. No problem.
• 1:26:44
  Right? You can store as many of those as you as you could possibly get hold of. But storing a lot of silver and a lot of gold is sort of self defeating because here's the thing. In order to okay. So you can trade it locally, but if you if you've stored so much that you can't trade that locally and you stored it with the expectation that you would convert it back into a new system and then get something out of it, that may not be the correct way to think about it, or rather it might be twenty years before we have a system like that again that would allow that.
• 1:27:16
  Because right now, if you were to say buy, you know, a million dollars worth of gold and you put it into a vault or even had it shipped to your garage, you know, how you'd get a million dollars out of that? If you live in a small area, even if you live in a very large area, you'd have to take that million dollars worth of gold and trade it with everybody in your area to get stuff in order to recover the value out of it. So large stashes of metal actually imply that you have some faith in in a system existing at the time that you want to convert those back into something of a specie for buying. Right? So there there's only two possibilities for metals like that or three.
• 1:27:56
  You can just never ever do anything with them, bury them in the ground, they just sit there. Or you're gonna trade them out for stuff locally, or you're gonna try and trade them at a higher level to get something that can then be used for local purchases. So we and historically, here's how it worked. In the 1929 through '33 period of of time, we had the the stock market crash, and then we had the bond crash. The bonds were ever so much more devastating, they actually put us into the depression.
• 1:28:26
  Just as the we've already started to have the bond crash now, so we're already technically in the depression. But the derivatives are gonna come on up, and then they're gonna put us into something far worse than the depression, and I don't know what we're gonna call it. Okay? But in 1933 or '19 it was 1930, you could after the stock market crash, a guy, there was a famous picture, you probably even still find it. I think it's probably New York Times.
• 1:28:51
  It shows these two guys with a crowd around them standing around a a brand new Bentley, the long flat hood kind of Bentley. And sitting on the hood of the Bentley on one side was a guy with a stack of silver coins, 20 1 ounce or 23 ounces of silver. And on the other side was the guy with the title. And so the guy bought the Bentley car that had cost $2,500 in 1929 to bring over from England. He bought that, for his stack of 23 silver coins.
• 1:29:24
  So that was a trade that existed at that point. Right? Now so in 1931, my step grandfather left California and came up to Washington State, and he mined gold for a couple of years because of Great Depression, no jobs, all of this. And and he knew stuff was coming. And so by 1934, he goes back down to California with the gold, and he was able to trade the gold that he had mined and bought a mountain, 2,500 acres in the in the hills in on top of mountain in California, which also turned out to have gold on it.
• 1:30:03
  Okay? Also, in that period of time, there was a $3,000,000 house. $3,000,000. Imagine $3,000,000 house, you know, probably 25, 30 thousand square feet, brick, all of this kind of stuff in Upstate New York. This $3,000,000 house sold for a 25 ounces of silver.
• 1:30:22
  So at that time, the guy was so broke and everything. Right? So that's what we're gonna be doing for trades in the future. So that's the kind of escalation that you can expect in relative value. But you're not gonna be able to say you can't really say at that point that, well, you know, a 25 ounces of silver is worth, you know, $3,000,000.
• 1:30:42
  It just is not an effective way to think about it, nor would there be a mechanism to convert that to dollars.
• 1:30:48
  Seth Holehouse: It's interesting because I I heard recently someone talking about how in Venezuela after their collapse that an ounce of silver would buy one month's worth of food and rations for a family. Like that was something that would, know, the currency was completely kaput, you know, wheelbarrows of a currency to buy one chicken, yet an ounce of silver would feed and supply a family for a month. So it's a good, it's another good. And also hearing about, you know, back in Germany, Weimar Republic, you know, after their collapse, people were buying buildings, you know, with maybe a gold coin would buy a home or a building. Interesting.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, there's a famous famous one here in the West Coast. A guy works as a bellhop in a hotel in California years, and he gets a a tip from a guy from Alaska. It's $20 gold piece. Staggering.
• 1:31:35
  $20 tip. Right? The guy was really flush. So the bellhop puts the money away, and then twelve or fifteen years later, the bond crash happens. So this has been the September.
• 1:31:47
  Then in 1933, the bond crash happens. He buys a four story hotel for that single tip. He bought the hotel he worked in for that $20 gold piece and ran it thereafter. Right? So that's the kind of stuff that we're gonna be getting getting into here relative to this crash.
• 1:32:04
  Now ours is gonna be a very hard time. The big ugly is lots of death because there's a lot of people that are dying and disabled from these damn shots. If you believed the numbers that are out there from officialdom, maybe seventy five percent of The USA population took at least one of these things. Right? I don't know that I believe those, but let's just say that that was reasonably accurate.
• 1:32:28
  We could expect then that the twenty five percent that didn't take the shots ten years from now will be living in a very much altered planet. Okay? If we don't get invaded by the Chinese to try and take over our lands and stuff, which I actually don't think is feasible because of the nature of China and their army and the fact they don't do logistics well, you know, getting all those millions of people across the ocean kind of thing. Right? But in any event so if we don't go that route, we're still gonna have an entirely different North America and and also an entirely different Western Republics.
• 1:33:09
  All the Western Republics got hit by this as well. And so you can make certain predictions just on how we are now. So we could imagine very accurately that politically, the attack by the WEF and the CCP with the bioweapon and the shots and all of this has good is going to create the hardest, toughest of all generations after these as a result of this over these next twenty years. Right? And that we're gonna be we won't be a loose and soft kind of a republic, that we'll be very much more like Hadrian's Rome.
• 1:33:53
  Okay? Which is interesting too, because at that time, a denarius, what we would call a dime's worth of silver, would feed a man for a week, would buy you a soldier for a week, pay him a a denaris a week. And so we're gonna get back to that that level. As I say, the big ugly, it's gonna be horrific. I'm hoping I I think there's reason to suspect optimism that it's not as bad as officialdom is gonna portray nor is it as bad as they think.
• 1:34:23
  I actually have worked for government as a subcontractor for years at state and local levels, and we used to have to aggregate numbers and send them on up chain to the state, and they would send them on up chain to the federal government and stuff. And then you'd hear later, months later, you know, after your work getting all these numbers together, you'd hear these things aggregated in some kind of a a federal thing, and you'd say, well, jeez, you know, they're saying that there's, you know, a 90,000,000 of whatever, you know, some number that they pick up for something. And you say, well, based on my experience, you know, what we did in our county to come up with those numbers was a % bogus. We were just guessing. It was just a wild ass guess as to any of this shit.
• 1:35:05
  And if we'd actually been called on it, we would have been hard pressed to to hoax up something to support those numbers. So I don't really believe anything the federal government gets in the way of statistics through those kind of reporting chains because it's not in anybody's interest to provide bad numbers or low numbers or whatever. So it's always growing and so on. So I don't think it's actually as bad. I don't think that 75 actually took the shots.
• 1:35:32
  This level of uncertainty also impacts the WEF and our government because you see frequently them betraying I'll just go back to this real quick. It's really interesting with my knowledge of language to listen to government lie because of so much how much they reveal and how they're lying and what they're lying about. But anyway, so I think that they are aware. So the the overclass is aware of how tenuous their existence is now. I think they've actually many of them that are smart know they've lost, and they're desperate to try and do something over these next year and a half or so to prevent their personal hide from being flayed away from them.
• 1:36:15
  As we see, you know, Macron. Will Macron survive physically? Will he survive another two months? You know, all it's gonna take is one confrontation with an angry mob and that overwhelms his security and no more Macron because they're that angry. And we can envision that that will happen here in The United States as well.
• 1:36:34
  In fact, data sets have been forecasting it back in 02/2002, '2 thousand '3 about people that would be so angry they would snipe politicians on their way to work or that people mobs that would be so angry about stuff that they would seize on different groups as being the cause of their problems and go and seek out these different groups. Right? Sort of in the way we see, some people some black people being told to go and beat up white people basically as the their oppressors and stuff. There's gonna be this, backlash around the shots. And it'll it'll get to the point where we will have act activity like direct action.
• 1:37:20
  So I won't call it terrorism. I'll call it retribution perhaps. And that there will be a lot of of individuals that will be injured and killed as a result of this. Some of them, probably innocently, but nonetheless, there's always collateral damage. And we're we're just that's it was a big part of the big ugly.
• 1:37:36
  It'll hit us in May and June as we get into this, as all of the lies start breaking down and the people that have been tricked really understand what's going on with them, and, they're gonna have take it very badly. That was the really the the big thing that I was trying to warn everybody about with the big ugly because I didn't really I don't care much about the money aspect of it. Right? I've never been really motivated by money. And and it's gonna go away, there isn't anything we can do about it.
• 1:38:03
  But there are things we can do about, you know, trying to calm this down and keep people from being, you know, victims of their own actions in the form of retribution coming back.
• 1:38:15
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. It's gosh, there's there's so much to to process here, but I know we're, you know, we're coming up on almost two hours and I just I really appreciate it. I've got all the time in the world for, you know, I could talk to you for days on anything, but I just I appreciate the time that you've given me today and just what you're doing. I again, I encourage folks, I'll put your links for your your BitShoot and your Substack in the description. Because I think that, you know, folks should, know, be checking you out and following your work and supporting you in the ways they can.
• 1:38:44
  And it's just been such a such an enjoyable conversation with you. And I and I I look. I legitimately have a lot of hope for the future. Like, I wouldn't wanna live in any other time in history, and that's how I really feel.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: Same here. You know? I've always, history, always looked at all of those places where we've had tumultuous happenings and big changes and stuff and to live in one like this. Another thing too, by the way, is that, astrologically, we're dealing with Pluto now. And Pluto is the great transformer.
• 1:39:17
  It upends everything, it its knowledge, and it's moving into Aquarius. And it'll be there for, what, I think twelve, sixteen years or something starting next year. So, you know, everything is aligning. Right? Even the stars are aligning with us in this battle going forward, and we're seeing the end of the Piscean age.
• 1:39:39
  So truly, I think fantastically great times, fantastically horrific times. Well, great expectations. It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.
• 1:39:51
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Well, thank you again for coming on.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, no worries. Thank you very much.
• 1:39:58
  Seth Holehouse: So folks, I hope that that has left you with some hope for the future. I know it does for me. It really gives me this urge of wanting to survive and get through this. And you know, in a lot of ways, like we ended with a level of excitement for where we live. But I really hope that you're taking the preparation to get through whatever is to come seriously.
• 1:40:17
  And there's really two there's lots of ways, but two big ways I really recommend is making sure that your food and seeds are taken care of and your finances. And look, I know that it's easy to say, well, okay, you push if you push doom and gloom, it's easy to sell the solutions to the groom and gloom. That's not what this is. I mean, what I'm trying to do to you is I'm telling you how I'm approaching things in my life and what I truly believe, I genuinely believe that we're entering into a period where there could be food riots and massive food shortages. So when I say, look, I recommend getting six months or a year or whatever of storable food, it's because I want you to be able to to get through that time period and to not be one of the people that is forced to go into a city to search for food or whatever that looks like.
• 1:40:59
  And when I talk about gold and silver, I don't want it to be that, you know, one day what happens is, you know, you realize you can no longer access your money in your account or you say you've got $300,000 in the stock market and it collapses or in a four zero one k, it just it just dissipates because, mean, look look back at what happened in Waimeaux Republic, look at different, you know, different currency collapses. This is the time that we're in. Whereas as you and Cliff talked about, and I'm not saying you should be speculative and that you should, you know, go buy gold or silver and think, silver's gonna hit $600 an ounce. Right? But I don't think you should do that.
• 1:41:33
  But what we talked about there is actually true. I mean, a lot of times when these collapses happen, which they happen all the time in our history, it's the people that have that gold or silver that they can then buy the building or buy the car or buy the food or whatever it is. And I think we'll also we will see I think an increase in value in those assets because they have been artificially kept down, you know, the the corrupt banking system, that part of the ability to manage their unlimited money printing is suppressing the prices of gold and silver. And so once they no longer have control over that system, you're going to see that the prices of gold and silver, I think will actually go up significantly. So if you want to check this out for the gold and silver, I highly recommend Doctor.
• 1:42:13
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• 1:42:33
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• 1:42:57
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