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Vanderpump Premiere, Hollywood Hookers and Emmys with Guy Branum · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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  Speaker 1: the road, when you're on the go, Juicy Scoop is
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  Speaker 1: the show to know. She talks Hollywood tales for real life.
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  Speaker 2: Mr.
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  Speaker 1: addicted fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Listen in, listen up.
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  Speaker 3: Woo, woo.
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  Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello, and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: I have returned favorite, a former office husband of mine,
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  Speaker 1: a tall, bald-headed delight, Guy Branum.
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  Speaker 2: Heather, I'm so excited to see the cute lunch sticker
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  Speaker 2: that you have on your laptop because, I mean, truly,
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  Speaker 2: it is a concept that I will always The concept
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  Speaker 2: of a half bottle of white wine being consumed with
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  Speaker 2: salads is something.
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  Speaker 1: It's everything. Yes. It's just everything.
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  Speaker 2: It means so much to me and something that is
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  Speaker 2: part of your distinctly Southern California wisdom.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I really appreciate that. I really miss having
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  Speaker 1: cute lunches with you, but we're going to enjoy. People
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  Speaker 1: can eat their cute lunch while they listen to us
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  Speaker 1: talking because there's so much juicy scoop to talk about. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you came in because you obviously heard about my triumphant
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  Speaker 1: return to television, which happened last night.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you were on Name That Tune. How was that?
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  Speaker 1: I won! Oh, really? I won $ 33, 000 for Hillsides, which
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  Speaker 1: is a charity that I was introduced to by Dr. Drew,
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  Speaker 1: and it's been around for 100 years. And basically, it
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  Speaker 1: does a lot, but the thing that stands out to
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  Speaker 1: me is kids that were never adopted out of foster
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  Speaker 1: care that are young adults, they'll help them get housing services,
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  Speaker 1: career opportunities, Help, school.
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  Speaker 2: That's so awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so really important.
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  Speaker 2: For so many people who don't have the support that
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  Speaker 2: luckier people do, being able to have people there, especially
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  Speaker 2: who will give you mental health care and be there
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  Speaker 2: for you as you're figuring out who you are, it's
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  Speaker 2: so important. I very briefly thought it was Hillsong that
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  Speaker 2: you were playing for, and I was like, oh no,
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  Speaker 2: is Heather back on her bullshit? And then I was like, no,
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  Speaker 2: this is okay.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I should have known better. Heather is a Catholic. Her
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  Speaker 2: Christianity is of a distinctly Catholic flavor.
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  Speaker 1: But this is a non-denominational nice thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: In choosing your charities as a celebrity, you kind of
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  Speaker 1: have to be pretty careful about it and make sure.
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  Speaker 2: My favorite, my favorite was when Ariana Huffington did Celebrity Jeopardy.
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  Speaker 2: She played for her own, for like the Ariana Huffington Foundation.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, beautiful. You get that coin, Ariana.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, it's the Clinton Foundation.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be a little suspect. But no, anyway,
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  Speaker 1: it's the second time I've played for them.
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  Speaker 2: Heather, that is ignoring what I asked you years ago.
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  Speaker 2: If you were going to start a charity of your own,
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  Speaker 2: what would your charity do?
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  Speaker 1: And I told you, Heather's for Heather's, helping Heather's stay
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  Speaker 1: hot for generations to come, where we encourage young pregnant
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  Speaker 1: mothers who are attractive to name their daughters Heather. And
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  Speaker 1: then the money that we raise, we give them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: baby stuff, strollers.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Little outfits.
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  Speaker 2: So that it's not a name that is lost.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's, you know, really in a serious.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't go all the way of Linda.
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  Speaker 1: It's an endangered species right now. It's not happening.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, I get a lot of Juicy Scoopers
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  Speaker 1: that come up to me and they're like, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not naming her Heather. I'm naming her Lily
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  Speaker 1: or something. And I'm like, it's okay. You can still
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  Speaker 1: be a Juicy Scooper.
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  Speaker 1: It's not taking off, by the way. The charity is
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  Speaker 1: not doing well.
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  Speaker 2: Were you excited to be on a classic 1970s-style game show?
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  Speaker 2: Did you feel at one with all of the people
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  Speaker 2: who were on the pyramid back when you were watching
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  Speaker 2: in grade school? Like, and what songs did you have?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't watch them.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, honestly, I was really bad at it. But Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Nealon was worse. So I was going up against Kevin Nealon.
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  Speaker 1: You have a.
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  Speaker 2: Deep pop culture sense, but you also sometimes have trouble
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  Speaker 2: remembering the name of things.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so like I would go, oh my God, I
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  Speaker 1: know this is the singer, or I know this is
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  Speaker 1: the next line in the song, because they just play
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  Speaker 1: like a little, but I wouldn't know the title. And
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  Speaker 1: so honestly, I was pretty bad, but the one that
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  Speaker 1: I did that I, then god came down and blessed
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  Speaker 1: me yes and the question was um you know you
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  Speaker 1: got to go to your challenger who's kevin and and
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  Speaker 1: the song came up and they're like how many notes
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  Speaker 1: do you think that you can get it in and
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  Speaker 1: then he might say oh i can do it less
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  Speaker 1: or call your bluff and then he has a chance
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  Speaker 1: to win it and say oh now i want 10
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  Speaker 1: notes instead of five and the question had to do
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  Speaker 1: with Annie, so Annie was in the title, but I
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  Speaker 1: can't remember what the question was, but I knew right away,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I know it's The Sun Will Come Out Tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: I know it, so I said, I can do it
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  Speaker 1: in one note, and everyone's like, what? Oh, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: And then they did it, and then I knew it, I.
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  Speaker 2: Heard- What a beautiful big dick move to get to
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  Speaker 2: pull in a classic for.
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  Speaker 1: And I got to sing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then they go, what's the answer? And I go, tomorrow, tomorrow,
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  Speaker 1: I love ya, tomorrow, tomorrow. And I was like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my God, I was so excited for my sister Shanna
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  Speaker 1: to see it because we were both Annie in local plays.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And whenever my parents would have some real estate clients
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  Speaker 1: come over, they pimped us out and we'd have to
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  Speaker 1: sing tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: We forget what a cultural phenomenon Annie was. I remember
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  Speaker 2: it came out when I was in kindergarten or something
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  Speaker 2: and there were so many girls in second and third
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  Speaker 2: grade who were like, this is my personality now. This
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  Speaker 2: is who I am as a person who really likes Annie.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. So I was Annie numerous times, like in summer
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  Speaker 1: plays where they do like the best of Broadway. And then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like everyone could at least have like a part.
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  Speaker 1: You just do a couple, which is, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: kids and people running theater departments in high schools do
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  Speaker 1: best of Broadway. We do not need to see the
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  Speaker 1: entire boring thing. Just do the best of Broadway. And
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  Speaker 1: then that way, so many more kids have a solo.
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  Speaker 1: It's so much more entertaining for the parents. It's all hits.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know that, like, we're having, like, a cultural moment. Like,
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  Speaker 2: do you know what the Jimmy Awards are?
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  Speaker 1: No, what is that?
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  Speaker 2: It's awards for high school drama.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 2: And, like, the presentations are always, like, ridiculous. But, like,
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  Speaker 2: Renee Rapp, who is in Mean Girls and Sex Lives
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  Speaker 2: of College Girls and is a pop star and everything
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  Speaker 2: like that, and then the kid who is in the
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  Speaker 2: Jennifer Lawrence rom-com, both won Jimmy's the same year. And
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  Speaker 2: so people are, like, saying, like, hey, look, 10 years ago,
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  Speaker 2: they won this high school award, and now they both
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  Speaker 2: have careers that are exploding.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. That's a good, like, you know, I really,
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  Speaker 1: you know, came up from my bootstraps kind of a thing.
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  Speaker 1: I thought this was kind of funny. You know how
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  Speaker 1: the new flex is that, like, I came from nothing
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  Speaker 1: and I was poor. I had no connections, whatever. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's why when I win my speech, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to be like, And to my grandmother, Kitty Morrison,
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  Speaker 1: who came over here on a boat in 1915. To
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  Speaker 1: think that I could be here a little over 100
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  Speaker 1: years later is amazing. But I was watching Paul Giamatti,
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  Speaker 1: who won for his role, which I want to see.
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  Speaker 1: But I saw him win for the Golden Globes as well.
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  Speaker 1: And he was like, this is a really important thing
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  Speaker 1: for me. I came from a family of teachers. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that's pretty humble on imagining like these
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  Speaker 1: two people coming home and one is teaching third grade
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  Speaker 1: math and the other one is doing the science and
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  Speaker 1: they just live in a middle class home. And so anyway,
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  Speaker 1: when he won the last time, whatever the critics choice
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  Speaker 1: or something, the reporter's like, and he goes, yes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I came from a family of teachers. And he's like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: your dad was the president of Yale.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, that's hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: That's wonderful. But there were other teachers and he had
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  Speaker 1: to be a teacher to get to that place. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're still a great actor.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But don't try to Like don't try to like, we
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  Speaker 1: got it. You probably got into Yale. I'm sure you
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  Speaker 1: did Yale drama school and I'm sure you were super
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  Speaker 1: talented and really, really good. But like, let's not sugar
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  Speaker 1: coat what this is.
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  Speaker 2: Access to, I came from nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Don't try to jump on someone's thing. Um, okay. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to get into the, the Emmys and stuff, but
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  Speaker 1: I did, uh, watch Vanderpump rules, the premiere after the
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  Speaker 1: whole scandal. It's back.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Um, So it's out. People are going to watch it.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to say it's really... It is really good.
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  Speaker 1: They're finally not acting like anyone really works at the
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  Speaker 1: restaurant anymore, which I like.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Because, I mean, Lisa is just reducing her presence
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  Speaker 2: in the greater Beverly Hills, West Hollywood area. You know?
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  Speaker 2: TomTom is still thriving, but, like, Lisa's shifting the business model,
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  Speaker 2: and we respect that.
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  Speaker 1: To a state where there's less taxes. Thank you, Nevada.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And a better model for sure.
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  Speaker 5: But.
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  Speaker 1: Now we know about the scandal. You know that Tom
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  Speaker 1: Sandoval cheated with Rachel Raquel and so we see Ariana
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  Speaker 1: and they're living in the house together but they make
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  Speaker 1: it very clear Tom is doing that Navy SEAL show.
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  Speaker 1: I like that they didn't act like he was out
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  Speaker 1: you know polishing glasses we said it it's what's happening
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  Speaker 1: thank God we understand.
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  Speaker 2: How the reality world works this is just what these
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  Speaker 2: people do.
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  Speaker 1: Right they share their lives on TV now they started
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  Speaker 1: out as waiters it's really not that so that was
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  Speaker 1: good and um We just are starting to see them like,
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  Speaker 1: are they going to be able to go out? Are
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  Speaker 1: they going to hang out with each other? But then
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  Speaker 1: Lala starts to feel bad about Raquel. And she meets
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  Speaker 1: with Lisa Vanderpump and she goes, you know, I was
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  Speaker 1: with this guy who I thought was going to be
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  Speaker 1: the love of my life. Everyone told me I was
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  Speaker 1: the other woman, but I didn't really see it that
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  Speaker 1: way because he kept telling me what our life would
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  Speaker 1: be like together, and then in the end, her guy, Randall,
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  Speaker 1: cheated on her too, and now they're going through a
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  Speaker 1: custody battle. So she reaches out to call Raquel, and
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  Speaker 1: then she has to tell Ariana I left her an
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  Speaker 1: audio voice message. And I just kind of thought that's
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  Speaker 1: interesting for them because it's like, Ariana's like, okay, but
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  Speaker 1: she was really nice about it, but again, it's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: we all said how much we hated this girl, and
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  Speaker 1: she destroyed our lives and stuff, and now you're reaching out.
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  Speaker 1: But then also, it's a TV show. And so I
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  Speaker 1: think they're sort of giving her a little slack, even though,
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  Speaker 1: of like, okay, we get it, Lala. You don't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: really want to reconnect with this person, but it would
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  Speaker 1: be good, because they wanted to come back on the show.
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  Speaker 2: The thing is, once somebody has been sort of like
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  Speaker 2: the arch-villain of a season... they either have to be
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  Speaker 2: brought back into the fold or leave the show. You
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  Speaker 2: can't have somebody... We all got very tired of everyone
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  Speaker 2: yelling at Erika Jayne for three seasons. And it's like,
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  Speaker 2: now she's back in the heart of, like, the bosom
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  Speaker 2: of Abraham, and things are fine, and other people can
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  Speaker 2: have fights. And I think it just is necessary. And
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  Speaker 2: I also think... Also, it's Vanderpump Rules. It is, like,
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  Speaker 2: sexy people who do bad things. Like, sexy people are
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  Speaker 2: gonna do bad things.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: So.
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  Speaker 1: The sandwich shop, they talk about the sandwich shop.
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  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 1: Are you familiar with the struggles of the sandwich shop?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Ariana and Katy had always wanted a sandwich shop
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  Speaker 1: when they were both married or with their Toms. So
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  Speaker 1: when the Toms were putting together their Schwartz and Sandys,
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  Speaker 1: they were like, we should have a sandwich shop.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, then the scandal broke and they're like, we're moving
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  Speaker 1: on with the sandwich shop. And they get this adorable
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  Speaker 1: little place, I think it's on Robertson, and they get
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  Speaker 1: the set designer for Nancy Meyers or her decorator to
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  Speaker 1: do it. And it's super cute. And they find all
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  Speaker 1: these yummy sandwiches. And, you know, I'm like, you should
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  Speaker 1: do a sandwich called the better half, which is just
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  Speaker 1: a half a sandwich because everyone wants a half there
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  Speaker 1: and it's, and they're getting cute teacups and everything. But
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  Speaker 1: then they had all this trouble with the city where
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  Speaker 1: they now had to scrape their patio. And then they
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  Speaker 1: didn't have permits for this. And for that, meanwhile, Ariana
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  Speaker 1: in real life, came in second with Dancing with the Stars,
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  Speaker 1: and is now Roxy Hart on Broadway, and she has
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  Speaker 1: a boyfriend in New York. And we're watching this, Peter
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  Speaker 1: and I are watching this, and he goes, wait, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to be making sandwiches? I'm like, or they can
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  Speaker 1: make $ 30, 000 on a post. I mean, I just, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's like.
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  Speaker 2: Well, do you think anytime someone on a reality show
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  Speaker 2: starts a new business, they are just thinking, this could
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  Speaker 2: be my spinoff?
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  Speaker 1: Yes and no. I think that they were like, this
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  Speaker 1: could be something that, yeah, a spinoff with cameras, but without, too. Like,
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  Speaker 1: this could be Something that can be really good and
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  Speaker 1: we could have several of them.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the thing is, is like the passive income
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  Speaker 2: of business. I do think you have to take care
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  Speaker 2: of the business a little bit. You know, you have
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  Speaker 2: to be somebody who has a mind for that. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that if you are if you're if you're
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  Speaker 2: doing it with cameras, it makes sense. If you're doing
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  Speaker 2: it without cameras, you really need to be one of
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  Speaker 2: those people who's like because like. overhead on Robertson is
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  Speaker 2: going to be high.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's going to be so hard.
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  Speaker 1: It's sandwiches. So it's not like you're making that easy
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  Speaker 1: money off the booze. I mean, maybe they have a
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  Speaker 1: wine and beer, like, I don't know. But then people
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  Speaker 1: were like, you know, is this, was this true?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to them. I know that this was a
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  Speaker 1: real intention, but that's why it's also hard. Um, when
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  Speaker 1: people have a partner in anything, whether it's a podcast
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  Speaker 1: or real estate, whatever, because one person might get another opportunity,
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  Speaker 1: like starring as Roxy Hart. And then you're like, do I,
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  Speaker 1: what do I do with this sandwich shop?
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing though. One important factor in all of
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  Speaker 2: this is the idea of Los Angeles character breakfasts. Like
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  Speaker 2: when people from the Midwest come, having a location where
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  Speaker 2: you can go and the likelihood of you seeing one
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  Speaker 2: of the sexy people you love from television is high,
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  Speaker 2: that's a really, like that's something to bring you in.
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  Speaker 2: But if people are going to be consistently like starring
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  Speaker 2: as Roxy Hart on Broadway or spending so much time
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  Speaker 2: doing their like yoga wellness posts and integrated content, that
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  Speaker 2: they only show up for 15 minutes.
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  Speaker 1: It's a hard thing, yeah. It's a hard thing, but
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  Speaker 1: we'll see. I still would love it to open, but
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  Speaker 1: if it doesn't, I think we understand why. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think people should be mad at them for it. It's
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  Speaker 1: a frickin' pain in the ass. It's hard.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to premise this question by saying I
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  Speaker 2: have started the long drive through Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Okay. And in learning... Like, as I go through
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  Speaker 2: and sort of, like, learn about the history of these characters,
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  Speaker 2: I realize just how many characters have had spinoff shows. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like, that there was Tardy for the Party,
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  Speaker 2: that there is Married to Medicine. Oh, Tardy for the Party.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know what's happening then.
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  Speaker 2: But, yes, but my question is essentially, is Vanderpump Rules
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: the version of that Housewives spinoff show that was most successful?
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: And do you think it is because Lisa was smart
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: enough to center people other than herself?
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent. She was so smart. And Brandi Glanville
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: will say the whole reason it's a success is because
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: of me.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Because it was.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Because she had the thing with Shayna, right?
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Because Shayna... Shayna, sorry. Shayna. Shayna, according to her, unbeknownst
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: to her, had a thing with Eddie Cibriol and she
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: did not know about Brandi Glanville or if she knew
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: he was married, he was telling her he was getting divorced,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: whatever the classic.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: And.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: But then he then later on cheated with Leanne Rimes,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: who now he's been with for like 12 years or something.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: But at the time, even though he was with Leanne Rimes,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Brandy didn't love Sheena. And then Sheena worked at the restaurant.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: So they filmed this. They knew about this. Then they
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: filmed this thing. And then the way it was, it
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: was the most genius thing. So, Real Housewives of Beverly
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Hills ends, and they're at a restaurant, and then they literally, like,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: go through a kitchen door and, like, end up at
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: the restaurant, and then you meet all the people.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: The backdoor pilot of Vanderpump Rules is one of the
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: most beautiful things I've ever seen.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Like, I really was just sort of, like, I haven't
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: watched the show still, but, like, I watched the backdoor pilot,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: and I was just like, I want to watch that show.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. It's like, Brandy could say it's
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: because of me, but it's really because of Sheena. Sheena was...
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: shared the honesty about it, has stuck with it. She's
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: gotten married, she got divorced, she's gotten married again, she
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: has a baby. I mean, she's been on this for
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: the whole time doing stuff.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Follow-up question. Yes. Just, like, as a gay man, I
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: have a different relationship to sort of, like, sense of
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: ownership over someone you're in a relationship with. And I
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: just wonder, like, do you think that somebody like Brandy
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: ends up, like, super blaming Sheena because... Eddie is the
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: father of my children and there's a way that I
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: can never stop. Like, why is it so easy to
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: blame this person who's a stranger to you instead of
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the person who stood in front of a crowd and said,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: I will love you forever.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Like, do you, that is such a good point. Like,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: because women are awful. Sometimes we're kind of, we're harder
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: on each other. We're awful. I mean, why is it
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: that there, you know, in cases women will side with
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: a guy and even in a, in a fight or whatever,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: they always side with the guy. They just, I don't know.
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: But I think when you have children, I imagine that
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: when you have children, there's a way that, like, this
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: person will always be part of your life.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: So in many cases, people feel invested in just, like,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: keeping hold of something, you know?
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: And I just think with the whole thing, why the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: scan of all was so interesting is because Raquel and
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Ariana were friends. They were really close. The deception goes
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: so much deeper than... Sheena meeting some hot actor and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: him being like, yeah, my wife and I live separate
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: lives or whatever he said. And he was just cute
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: and it was just fun and she was just an
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: aspiring actress. That's like a totally different situation than going
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: after your best friend's dude. It's just completely different.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Well, like actors who have to play people in a
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: couple so frequently end up cheating with each other. And
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: do you think there is the same kind of like–
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: heightened erotic state for people on reality shows? Do you think?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: No, I think from what I've heard from Raquel, who's
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: now speaking her truth, it was like they got together,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: they bitched about filming when they weren't together, just like
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: any other coworkers. And then they were just attracted and
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: they both felt it and they went for it and
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: nobody stopped.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Time is super hot.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: And it went on for seven months. Yeah. And then
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: she was believing what he was saying and what she
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: believed their life could be once he officially broke up
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: with her. And then the reason I'm not doing it
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: right now is because we are on a show and
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: we got to wait for the show to end. And
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: then there can be a little break and then we
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: can act like we bumped into each other. I don't
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: know what their plan was. Eventually we might know more.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Everyone's given their side of the story. But what's kind
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: of funny about watching it now is this still was
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: done a long time ago, but they are like a
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: little bit able to like, make fun of it a
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: little bit just right now. It's like time does heal
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: all wounds. And so I think that's kind of fun
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: to watch because they are all like very funny and entertaining.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: As somebody who is not watching the show, is there
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: anyone who is desperately fighting for air? It just feels
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: like Skandoval has like so occupied the space. Are there any?
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: No, because what's interesting is for a few years they
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: tried to get different busboys and they cast people and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: they'd push these other people on us, thinking we need
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a 2.0 cast because these people are getting older and
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: they may leave. Now, as you can see in this photo,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: it's only the main players. It's DJ James, Sheena, Tom Sandoval,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Tom Schwartz, Ariana, Lala, Katie, and um lisa that's it
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: i mean we're gonna see a couple other people but
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: all the other people that were like you know on
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the third shift on a monday they're not coming those
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: waitresses are not part of this anymore how.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Do you feel about the place of combining whites and
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: neutrals uh amongst our young sexy people i think this
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: looks good i mean it like.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I'm glad they didn't do the purple like like purple
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: is the background cream is the middle i think this
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: is good and then that And then that Lisa wore
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: solid white pants. No, I think they all look great.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I'm a little annoyed with everyone wearing cream at all
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: times these days. It was like.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: You know what I think it is that no one
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: ever thinks about?
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: What?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: It is a real flex to say, I'm going to
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: wear a white pantsuit with a cream trench.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to go out and eat. And I'm
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: such a classy bitch.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Who is that person?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to spill coffee.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Who is that person? I'm not going to sit on
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: a dirty bench.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Like, it's iconic.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: And it's like a rich thing, too, because I never
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: think of going all white or wearing all white, but
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: now I'm starting to think about it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Well, also, gay guys started wearing, like, cream or tan Speedos, like,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: five years ago.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: And it was kind of like, what, is he naked? And,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Well, we always copy the gays. They always
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: start it. So I thought it was rich ladies in
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: New York. Why not? It's gay guys in West Hollywood.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: on the show, I.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Sit down with extraordinary people who have faced tremendous setbacks.
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: And yet somehow have found a way to turn them
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: into their greatest strengths.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: the Emmys and I have police complaints filed against me.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: what would you do if it was given back?
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: you had to.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Succeed in order to feel loved? He said, I have
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: a work dad. I need a home dad. What happens next?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: When I came in, he started crying.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: happens next.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I decided to risk it all.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I realized how valuable every day was. Worth the work. Listen, Dara,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to pull punches.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit. There were several shows
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: in the last two weeks. There was The Globes with
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Joe Coy. There was Critics' Choice with our girl Chelsea.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: And then Anthony Anderson did the Emmys. So I will
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: just say I thought he did great.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I thought it was whoever thought of Let's Do Old
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: sitcom songs. and celebrate that versus like hard jokes of
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: pointing at people in the audience was fricking brilliant.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Well, and also having so many casts from long running
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: shows that never won an Emmy.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I thought was like a beautiful thing to say, like,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: it's always funny in Philadelphia. Like, good for you. You
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: get to be here. Like, remember how great you are. Right.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: It was, I thought it was really nice and it
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: played to his skills because he's not, Anthony Anderson isn't
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: a standup, is he?
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think he was ever a stand-up. He
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: was just always a comedic actor.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so he was able to pull it off.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I did think when they brought in Natasha Lyonne and
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Tracee Ellis Ross to do the thing from I Love Lucy,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: it was the hardest because it's an iconic comedy moment.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: You're just never going to be funnier than Lucille Ball
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: and what's her name? Ethel. Vivian Vance.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: But I thought like, The thing is, Tracy Ellis Ross
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: has those multicam skills, those sketch comedy skills of being
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: able to throw herself at it, and I thought it
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: was really fun. I also really liked that at the
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Critics' Choice Awards, I like jokes. I like jokes, and,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: you know, Joe Coy was in the hardest possible situation
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: at the Golden Globes. It's a live show in front of, like,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: very famous people who are, even just as stand-ups, we
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: understand that sitting at tables and having food and drinks
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: in front of you.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Right, is not our deal.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: It's the worst. It's the worst possible situation, and he
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: had very little time to put it all together, and
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: it was rough to watch.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I just love that Chelsea did it artfully, because I
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: want to see it done well.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Well, this is what I think the difference between Joe
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Coy and Chelsea is.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Chelsea has... had experience of being with celebrities for many, many,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: many years. Joe Coy is really a one-man band, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: his success is him going out and doing these enormous
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: arenas for people.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: And they're building that community.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that people just absolutely adore him. So collaboratively, he
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: certainly doesn't have the experience. But he doesn't also have
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the experience of being in the A-list celebrity world. And
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: she already did it the year before. And also, she
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: just was more comfortable up there or surrounded by those people.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: So once you're comfortable, the audience was more comfortable. And
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the audience wasn't very comfortable with him because he wasn't comfortable.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: And also the idea of collaboratively. It was a situation where,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: according to him, Like, they'd offered it to several people,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: and he only got the job 10 days beforehand. And, like,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Chelsea is used to having writers. For decades, she has
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: had writers and, you know, knows how to manage them.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Hopefully better now than 10 years ago. And clearly she does.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Clearly she does. But, like, there is that thing of, like,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: if the call came for a big opportunity to 10
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: days from now, you have worked as a writer, you
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: would know exactly who, like, you would call me an
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Alison Faust, and, you know, you would know who to
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: go to as your people, and the thing is, like,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: what Joe Coy does is solo work, and I think
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: he just didn't immediately have, like, these are the people
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: who are gonna write me killer jokes.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: If and when I get the call, I will be
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: calling you, but I also will have the attitude of, like,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: if I bomb... This is still going to be the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: biggest moment in my career. For me. That's why you
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: say yes, though 10 people said no. But why someone
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: at a different level will turn it down. Because they're like,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: this could only hurt me. First I thought, is this
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: hurting Joe Coy? And then I'm like, absolutely not. Because
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: his audience is so freaking loyal. They treat him like
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: a brother. And if they feel like their brother got
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: a little beat up this week, they're going to go
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: in droves to see his live show. And then if
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: he can be funny and humble, because he can be
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: very self-deprecating in his comedy. So if he can bring
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: this moment to the stage, it'll be fresh. It'll be
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: a fresh Hollywood story, like a Kathy Griffin type of
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Hollywood story that people love to hear. That's where I
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: would go with it. I thought a better thing to
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: do was to just not apologize and not say anything
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: and kind of save it like Chris Rock did. But instead,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: he went and did an interview with I think it
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: was with the LA times and he kind of was
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: like defending his, and I'm like, I would have said,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: don't just don't do anything. Let people forget about it.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Come out and be like, you guys, that was a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: fucking nightmare. Like, you know, whatever. And then have everyone just,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you know, join in.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: It's so hard when the media's attention is on you.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Like you have had those moments when there was like
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: something going down and like, the media's attention is on
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: you and there's such an inclination to respond and being
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: able to be like self-possessed and just sort of say like,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I'm going to control how I respond to this.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: It's really, really hard. It's much easier said than done.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: And when you're living in it and it's like, that's
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: why you need just like a sober coach. You need
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: like a social media coach. You need literally someone that's
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: going to be like, I'm not letting you be alone
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: with your phone. We're going to go to Cabo. We're
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: going to da da da da. You're going to literally
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: have blinders on. We're not going to let, you know,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: anybody see any of this. and think about what we're
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: gonna do. But it's hard because I think you still
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: have the yes man people that are kind of like,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: oh no, it wasn't that bad. A lot of people, look,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I know there's some mean comments, but look at all
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the good ones and all of that. Like I said,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: he'll be more than fine, but he was never gonna
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: be in the Hollywood, in the acting world really ever again.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: But he'll always do well as this huge, massive standup,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: in my opinion. So this is only gonna help his worldwide,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: domination at the arenas. But I thought it was so great.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: That Anthony Anderson was just like, I'm going to do
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: something else.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to approach it in that way.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: It ended up being- And he got to sing, also
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: something I'd like to do.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Wait, what did he sing? He got to sing a
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: lot of the- Oh, the theme songs, yes.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he wasn't even trying to be good, but
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: he could still kind of carry a tune.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Remembering how good the Jefferson's theme song is, it's just,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: You know, he was like saying, you know, oh, I
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: had a crush on 2D or talking about it. And I,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you know, I always remember when I was writing with
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: the Wayans brothers and I was like, oh, I loved
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Good Times. And they're all looking at me.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was the Good Times theme song, sorry.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all looking at me like, you did?
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: And I remember Keaton was like, I want to know,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: like growing up and watching it, like what did you think?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: And I was like 27 and I just said, I
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: remember thinking I'm so jealous how close their friends live
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to them.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: That they're next door. To me, I never, I didn't
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: think of it as like, oh, this is what it's
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: like if you don't have a lot of money and
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you live in the projects. I was like, oh, this
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: is a different kind of family. And I think that's
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: what was so good about those shows is that it
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: exposed the world, but in a positive way.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Well, also those network shows, you just, back in the
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: 70s and 80s, we just watched television and we're like,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: if this is on, it's relevant to us. And like
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: there were black shows that like as a white person,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: you were just like, well, this must be relevant to me.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: It's on television. I have to tell you. Yes. There
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: is a fifth season episode of Good Times where she
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: goes to the doctor and there is a light-skinned black
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: doctor who is very condescending to them because of their
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: social status. And she refers to them as you people.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: And there's a moment where the mom says, and who
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: do you think you are? Debbie Boone? And I always
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: remember that joke. And the thing is, is as a
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: fat person, when you go to the doctor, doctors are
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: so frequently really condescending to you and don't listen to you.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And the number of times that I've gone back and
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: watched that episode of Good Times, just to sort of
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: like think about and realize that it was modeled for
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: me that there are people who will be– there are
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: medical service providers who will be condescending to you and
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: not take you seriously and you have to advocate for yourself.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't think naturally or normally that this show for
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: black people about issues that were relevant to African Americans
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: in the 70s in the projects would be something that
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: was a useful tool that I carry around in my life.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: But it is a useful tool that I carry around
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: in my life.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Well, this is my good time. Two good time moments.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: There were a few. But one was– when she's like
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: fighting with her husband about something, Florence, what's her name?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: And she, she goes, a woman, a woman. And she goes,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: don't say it. Don't say it. And he goes, is
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: only meant to be in the kitchen or the bedroom.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: And I remember watching that and seeing her get angry
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: and being like, oh my God, you know, that people
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: would think that. And like, and I'm like, you know, say,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I also thought it was interesting that the only, that
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: the girl had her own bedroom.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: But the boys had to share the couch because the
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: girl had to have her own bedroom, which is also
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: like a thing culturally that is sort of interesting.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Like, you know, that to protect her and that nobody's
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: getting at her and the dark side of that.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: And then the other one, of course, was Janet Jackson
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: playing Penny who had an abusive mother.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: And I was like, Oh my God, and seeing like
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the iron mark on her back.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that episode so.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just like, I mean, I just don't
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: know that there's kids today that watch something as a
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: child and will remember it the way we're talking about
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: a show right now.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Because I think that they are, there is such effort
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: made to insulate them from darker things because parents don't
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: want to have to have these conversations.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: And like when you think about the way that like
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: primetime network television was saying like, well, now you have
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: to have a talk to your kids about molestation because
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Arnold went to the bike shop and yeah. We all
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: remember What's-Her-Name on Punky Brewster getting locked in the refrigerator.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: You understand you don't play in a refrigerator.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I remember I wrote a paper at SC
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: about how depressing, how many depressing storylines were in 70s
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: sitcoms versus that there were like none in the 80s.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: All the 80s, like the 80 ones, they did not
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: have these depressing real moments. These like, you know, one
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: day at a time where she's crying and she's like,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: all these moments of Bonnie Franklin, like being a single mom.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: And we saw that in the 70s. And then the 80s,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: it was more of the positive happy, which was what
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: was being fed to us.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: It is interesting because I have gone back in the
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: recent past and watched a bunch of the Norman Lear
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: sitcoms from the 70s and they are, so good it's
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: like watching a good play like they're they're so smart
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: and so funny at the same time and then i've
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: gone back and watched a couple of 1980s sitcoms and
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: they are just like like forgettable cotton candy.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah i know is norman lear still alive no.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Uh i think we just we just lost him.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Okay well let's talk about the important stuff fashion uh
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: aubrey plaza wore this.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Did you see somebody who made it the post-it?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, for Sex and the City. So she had a
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: yellow dress on with this weird top of it yellow
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: with a big needle through it. And someone, I think
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: it's someone who runs a Sex and the City fashion
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: account on Instagram, so I apologize for not. But it
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: said it was the breakup post-it that Carrie got. They
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: just wrote it on there.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, as somebody who worked at Fashion Police, there
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: is sort of like the trauma and joy of remembering that.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: I would have had to have stayed up all night
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: long writing 60 jokes just about that dress.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Do you have some work to give us right now?
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: No, I don't. I'm sorry.
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, oh, oh.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: And then the pregnant girl.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: She said.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Suki Waterhouse.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Sorry, no. Go back. I have a joke. I have
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: a joke. Okay. For Aubrey's post-it dress. Her stylist said, well,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: we have to figure out what you're going to wear
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: in the Emmys. And Aubrey said, let's put a pin
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: in that.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: Good.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: This girl is pregnant, Suki Waterhouse, and she wore a
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: big red gown, but basically she just had the top
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: part be like a bib, like a big square bib.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: So we got a full back, side tit, and then
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: you got to see the stomach from the side.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I will say Aubrey Plaza was taking a stab, or
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: a poke rather, at real fashion, and I respect it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: It was big. This, I think, is dumb.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: This is just, listen, I do think there's something to
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: be said when you just go, look, I just want
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: some press. I actually don't want to look good. I
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: just want some press.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: No, there's this one singer-songwriter, Bonnie something or other, Bonnie McRae,
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: is that her name? She always shows up to the
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Grammys wearing the most ridiculous outfit. And on Fashion Police,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: we always covered her because she did that. And she's
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: like a very successful songwriter who has a solo career
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: of her own that doesn't get enough attention. And she
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: would just be like, I'm gonna show up wearing something
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: batshit and you're gonna cover me. And I respect that,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: but this is of the school of I'm pregnant, but
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I still have a hot body. And I think there
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: are smarter ways of doing it than that.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Well, as someone who was pregnant twice and wasn't famous
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: at the time and never milked it, I wore maternity
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: bathing suits. I didn't wear bikinis where my big stomach
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: was at. I didn't like walk around with my stomach out.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: And I am jealous. And I do think if I
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: was ever to have the second coming pregnant again, I
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: would be milking it out and walking around the earth
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: like I'm the only person that's ever given birth, which
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: is what a lot of people do.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I love when somebody– I just like be a little
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: bit cheekier about it. Have a little bit more fun
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: with it. This is just kind of.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: It's not cute. This is not cute.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: It's not cute. I mean, the way that that skirt
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: just goes enormous underneath.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just imagining the gapping when you sit down.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: This was Princess. She's a drag queen and she went
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: as a green goblin with like extreme makeup.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I think this is beautiful. Drag Race always- And Drag
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Race won. Drag Race so frequently wins for makeup. And
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: I think show up with your skills. The wonderful thing
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: about drag queens is that they can turn themselves into
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: beautiful women.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: But also you can do anything with it. Like just
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: having her in the background of shots as a goblin
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: was thrilling to me.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: And I think the best thing about RuPaul's Drag Race,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: and they just sent me this great packet. So I
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: got a cute sweatshirt.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: You judged, right? Oh, you were on Snatch Game.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I got to be on Snatch Game. I got a sweatshirt.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I got a cute t-shirt. It's on MTV now. Ross
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Matthews is now a producer. So he got an Emmy.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: They've won like 63 Emmys or been nominated.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: So many wins. But I think the best thing that
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: it's done is made this art form this huge segment
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: of entertainment.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: That these drag queens and, you know, you can go
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: to a drag show, you can go to a drag brunch,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: you can go on a drag cruise. Like, they were able,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: they are able to have full-blown... entertainment careers like stand-ups do,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and they never were before. So I think that's the
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: best part about it.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: The trouble is that we are running dry. Like, our
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: national supply, they do have a bunch of.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: There's no up-and-comers, you mean?
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, now there are so many kids who, like,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Learn to do makeup on TikTok, but have never performed
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: in real life who go on the show. There were
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: these two absolutely beautiful boys who just, they were twins,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Sugar and Spice, and they can't even dance. They are
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: good at makeup and they are beautiful, but they can't dance.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I have a show for you.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: We bring back horrible Abby Lee Miller.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: But she's only helping- Drag moms? She's only helping drag
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: moms and their kids who are at least like 15.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Like they ought to be a little bit older so
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: they know what they're doing. But she's helping them get
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: their dance on.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: All right. One of the problems is, one of the
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: problems is, is that it used to be that these
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: drag queens came from horrible backgrounds where their parents rejected them.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: and that rage turned into art, and now they all
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: have moms who sew for them, and they hate it.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I think the answer is that we need.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: So it's become too supportive.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: The parents are too supportive, hence the art is not
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: as good. I love it.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: We need to start fracking our gay bars. You know
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: when you get to the point when there's not enough
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: oil left, so you have to pump water down in there?
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: We just flood water into gay bars, and then- The
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: good drag queens will come out.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Speaking of this, did you see that J-Lo showed up
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: at the Abbey?
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Oh, no.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Wonderful.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: She came with her, shoving her alcohol, Delano or whatever
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: it's called. I don't even know what it is, like
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: a sparkling thing. And she, you know, singing, you know,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I can't get enough. Have you seen the video for
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Can't Get Enough?
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: No.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: It is really weird and kind of bad. Oh, I
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: should watch it. And, you know, I love J-Lo's music
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: and I love her look. But it's about, she's kind
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: of mocked. The video is her having a bunch of weddings,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: but a couple of dresses are weird. And then the
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: dancing is weird. The dancing is very weird on it.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: And so she goes to the Abbey, you know, on
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Emmy weekend, and she's, you know, filling drinks. Of course,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: the comment was, I think at one point she took
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: a glass and went into the ice. Okay, so that's
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: a big no-no. To serve the drinks. The gays would
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: have drank ice in a hot second if it came
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: from J-Lo. They don't care. But, yeah, so I was
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: hoping you'd be there that day. Not that you... Troll
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: the bar.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Why do I go to the Abbey?
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Never, but you missed that day.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: The famous people always go to the Abbey. And I
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: just want to say there's already a picture of Liz
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Taylor up at the Abbey. You're never going to win
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: at the Abbey. I want to see somebody go to
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: High Tops. I want to see somebody, you know.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Go to High Tops.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Yes. Or Rocco's with your beloved friend Lance. Right.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: He owns Rocco's.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: We'll do that. This was a fluorescent green Jessica Chastain.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: It looks really good. I wore this color when I
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: went on Watch What Happens Live.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: How did it go?
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Everyone said they loved it, but I have to say
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I regret it. I think neon is too trendy. It
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: comes and it goes, and I may never be back
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: on that show, and I wish I would have gone
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: with something just more classic.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, her, with the red hair, I think it's bold,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: and also, you're Jessica Chastain, you get to go to
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: movie things.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: You get to go a lot of, yeah.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Showing up to the Emmys, you can do your B-side look,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: but I have to say, It's a very difficult time
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: for Jessica Chastain right now, okay?
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Because Greta Gerwig is our greatest Sacramentan. Greta Gerwig has
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: staked out her territory as our greatest Sacramentan. And Jessica Chastain,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: repeated Academy Award nominee, Academy Award winner, Academy Award winner,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: has to be our second greatest Sacramentan. And I think,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: you know, she doesn't know how to get her way
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: out of this. Like, she's stuck there in the number
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: two spot. Also, I can't believe Eyes of Tammy Faye
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: won an Oscar. Or whatever it was called.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Is that what she got it for?
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: She won it for the Tammy Faye movie, right?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I loved that movie.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought it was fine.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right. Here we are with Issa Rae. Issa.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Issa Rae. And she went with just a big, not
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: showing off the body, But a big, and she has
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: a great body, big feathery thing. And I think this
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: is smart. She got invited to everything. Her best dress
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: was that orange, more like an orange, like crusted number two,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I think. The golden gloves. That was like one of
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the best dresses. She showed off the body there. So
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: why not just be super chic and go for it?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: That little taste of I'm hosting a late 70s variety show.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: Like there's something very... And this is what, like, Barbra
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Streisand in her late 30s would have worn. This is
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: what Marlo Thomas would have worn. Like, I really love it.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: And it's too much, but also sensible. I, like, I, yeah.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: First of all, you know, don't wear black.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Okay? And if you're going to a bunch of events,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's good to get your brain going and
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: be like, okay, I'm going to do three really different looks.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: This was awful.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I thought she was so cute in the little performance.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: This is Calista Flockhart, Ally McBeal. The performance was cute.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I just think it was ugly. And then you wanted
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: this dress because you loved it.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't. Oh, you didn't love it? I'm so
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: tired of Hannah Lottingham. Okay, so the thing is, everybody's like,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: what am I gonna wear? And I feel like just size-wise,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: just capacity of the theater-wise, too many people are showing
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: up to award shows saying, I'm the princess.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: And she has been princessing at the Emmys so hard,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: she stands up in standing ovations, everyone who gets something wins. She, like,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: makes it about her a lot.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Do you think she's what the kids would call a
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: pick-me girl?
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, a little bit. Like, I think she's a
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: theater girl. Like, remember her acceptance speech from, it was
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: the Emmys of the Globes a couple of years ago,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: where she was like, you know, more people should hire
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: West End actors. And I think she is, to her bone,
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: a West End actor.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: More people should give girls from South of the Boulevard
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: in the Valley Emmys. Thanks. Because we have it rough.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I come from the south side of Ventura.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I would love for her to show up in something
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: at one award show and have it be big-ass fashion.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: And that's what I have to say for Aubrey Plaza.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: She didn't hit it out of the park this time.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: But she got people talking.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Or Issa Rae showing up and being like, at this
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: moment in time, I am a 37-year-old Diana Ross.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it. I love it. And then I thought this
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: was a really good dress. This is Keri Russell, and
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: she did the long cape thing, which I am going
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: to do when I go.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Why not just come big and bold? You could always
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: switch to a different dress for the after party.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: But for sitting in your seat and possibly going up
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: there to get a ward, have a train, have a cape,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: have a bustle.
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: Do it.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: In everything you have to say, what is my moment?
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: I just worry about, are you spilling out of your seat?
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: As somebody who in any situation will be spilling out
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: of my seat just with my physical person.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: You don't want a cape.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, is I think if I did go,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I would wear a cape.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why not? And, yeah, so there you go. And
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: then this was just a classic gorge.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Megan Fahey. And she just wore, like, this beautiful blood red,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: just strapless. She's thin. It just was, like, so pretty.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: This was so classic and pretty.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: It's great. She looks beautiful in it. And, like, also
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: was one of the people who, like, at an Emmys where.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: pretty much the people you expected to win. One, she
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: was in one of the categories that was like, this
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: is competitive.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good for her. And then I thought, this is
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Donald Glover.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's good at the job.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: And I just like, you know, and he didn't wear
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: the classic tux. He did like a little embroidery. Anthony
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Anderson also wore like flout embroideries on a tux. I
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: kind of like that.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Like A, you have to do so little as a
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: man to be doing something daring. Yeah. And also I
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: do think like, The black, the stylists for black men,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: like the black stylists who work predominantly with black male
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: performers do more interesting stuff.
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: Like, but this is like, this is beautiful. It's such
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: magnificent detail work. And it's also not like. So frequently
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the answer for guys now is just like, don't wear
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: a shirt and show off that I have a good torso.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: And I like that this is not just that.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Yes. I think it's fun that they play around just
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: into the classic thing.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Okay. I thought this was interesting because they got together
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: for the Grey's Anatomy co-stars. And just for Juicy Scoop history.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: Do you remember when Katherine Heigl pissed off Shonda Rhimes,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: got kicked off the show.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: And- Who was her best friend who was gay on
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: the show?
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes. What was.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: He wasn't there.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: T.R.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Knight. T.R.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Knight. What has happened to T.R.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Knight? I mean, the thing about Grey's Anatomy being on
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: for so long is that there are people who were
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: like stars of the show, who left the show, and
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: then are just nowhere. I'm sure he has like a
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: respectable drama series that nobody watches that he's on.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: So there was T.R. Knight, and T.R. Knight accused the
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: other actor, who's black, what is his name?
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Something Washington.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: That he said that he called him a derogatory term.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: And I feel like all three of them just ended
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: up leaving the show shortly after.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: And.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: And that is always rough when somebody points out discrimination
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: and then they end up feeling so uncomfortable. It's very retaliatory.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: It makes me very sad.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: When someone points it out?
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: When somebody, like, when somebody... Says this person did something
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: wrong to me and then they are the person who
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: ends up losing their job.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Right. And then– well, then she went on the red carpet,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Katherine Heigl, and at one point dissed the writers. Also
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: something not good to do, which is basically Shonda Rhimes.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: So then she went on to do– she thought she
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: was going to be a movie star forever. She had
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: all those what I like to call dry bar movies.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: When you get your hair blown out, they play them
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: over and over, which is like– 27 Bridesmaids.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: 27 Dresses.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Dresses, yeah, all that, all those crappy movies, and he said,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: she said it.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: I went to all of them in the theater.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, me too, and it was just always like,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: with all that music, that play. that dorky music of like,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: like whoever's doing the sound editing of those stupid 2000
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: movies as they're like trying to get ready for a date.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: It would be wrong to say she single-handedly suffocated the
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: romantic comedy, but maybe she did. But I loved the
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: humility of coming out and saying, I am willing to
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: be here with my Grey's Anatomy crew. I am happy
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: and ready to work. And I am still six inches
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: taller than Ellen Pompeo. Yes.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I remember we were on the roundtable and
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: I said something. I'm like, she suffers from. Katherine Heigl syndrome,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: which is where you believe the hype of your gay
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: best friend too much.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I blame T.R. Knight for her becoming
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: quite pompous as the Grey's Anatomy girl.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: But then you also have a team of people that
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: are like, we're going to get you movies and this
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: and that. And would you rather do a movie about
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: bridesmaids' dresses or learn 17 pages of medical terms overnight?
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: And she was in, like, she was in the, like, um...
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: what was the pregnancy one called? Not 40-Year-Old Virgin.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: But she was in a huge romantic comedy.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Judd Apatow, that one was cute.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: She was in a huge romantic comedy. Everything was on
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: her side. I think it made sense. And I think
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: it is unfair to, I don't know, I think we're
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: inclined to say a woman was experiencing hubris because she
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: believed in herself.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: You know? Yes.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: You are totally right. Again, we don't say that about
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: a guy. So true. Um, this Vogue did this photo
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and it is a happy birthday, Kate Moss. And I
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: saw it and I was like, this is not a
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: flattering naked photo of her. And it was from whenever
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: 10 years ago, who knows when. And the comments are like,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: you did her wrong. Like also, I think whenever this
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: photo was taken, um, Having kind of a flat ass
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: was still acceptable. And so I think people are not
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: used to seeing like a real body. It's like her
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: naked body twisted and turned. But again, I wouldn't be
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: thrilled if that was what Vogue posted to say happy
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: birthday to me. I would be like, really?
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Could you ask me first? I, as a fat, get
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: kind of annoyed with people. who made a living off
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: of having a perfect body or being extremely skinny. Okay.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Turning 47 and then saying like, let's all have real bodies. Hey,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: accept yourself. And like, you're right. And this, like, I
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: think it's a really beautiful photo. I think it is like, um,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: an homage to like, um, like Rubens and, and those
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: sort of like, um, you know, the statues of the arts, like, uh,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: I think Bruegel. But like, you know, the sort of
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: like 17th century sort of like voluptuous courtesan sort of
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: buttocks kind of thing. And I think it looks really good.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: But I am like.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I think the bigger thing is, yes, Vogue magazine obviously
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: owns the photo. She did a photo shoot with them.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: They said happy birthday. Maybe she approved it. We may
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: not know the backstory, but I would hope. That if
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: you were going to do something like that, that wasn't
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: just like you and like, you know, modeling from 1975
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: and you're, you know, wearing like a Ralph Lauren blazer
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: or whatever. If it was anything more risque than that,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I think you should ask the person. Even though you've
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: signed off, you don't own the photos anymore. I just
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: think that would be the classy thing for Vogue to
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: do and be like, hey, you down with this photo?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: We wanted to give you a happy birthday.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, like that's. That's a really, really good point.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I think there is sort of an assumption that models
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: understand that their bodies are out there. And I don't
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: know how protective of them we can be when it
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: is something they have chosen to commodify about themselves. I
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: just have an issue. When you get in the door
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: by being hotter than me, and then once you're in
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: the door, you say, hey, why can't we all go
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: to seed? I'm like, calm down. I agree. I agree.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Have
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: you watched it at all?
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, I have only seen the cultural impact of I
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: have the receipts, I have the websites. What is it?
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Well, the stuff I want to talk to you about
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: today is just the juicy thing that came out on
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: last night's episode.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Which is, okay, so Monica, this one at the bottom, she,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: you know, was, she has quite a shady past. She
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: had an affair with her husband's sister's husband. Wonderful. So
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: her brother-in-law For 18 months. Then got divorced. And she
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: had a marriage before that. So she's been divorced twice, cheated, whatever.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Then she's got this mother. And the mother was featured
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: on the show. And they fight horribly to each other. Like, say,
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: F you and all this other, like, horrible to each
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: other on the show. And a lot of people are like,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: and myself included, this feels very like they're acting. We
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: now know. That she set out to get on the show.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: She made friends with Jen Shaw. She worked with Jen Shaw.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, wait, I did see that. Yes.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: So she set out to get on the show. She
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: started a fake account called Reality Von Teese where she
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: would share all the stuff. Now, there's another site that
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: covers all this stuff. It's called All About the Real Housewives.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: And they just came out with an article saying, according
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: to them and allegedly... that on the reality volunteers, which
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: she ran a couple with a couple other people, they
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: released these videos of Jen Shaw treating her staff horribly,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: screaming at them. And people were like, how did they
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: ever get those videos? Well, according to this, when she
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: went and befriended Jen Shaw and was working with her,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: she said, you should have surveillance cameras here. And she
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: set it up, but the cameras went to her phone.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: And that is why she had all those things to
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: then expose Jen. Because I remember corresponding with reality volunteers
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: because she was exposing how awful Jen Shah was to
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: her fashion designer and her staff and everything with these
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: videos that she was putting out there. She then hides
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: that identity, gets on the show, has her mother come
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: on the show with her. And last night. She really
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: reveals how awful the mother is. And the mother is awful.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: She's awful, but the mother is what made her awful too.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: The mother is one of those mothers who's totally narcissistic
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: and really jealous of her daughter.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: So you think she's really a monster and not performing monster?
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I think she's both.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I think she is a monster. I think you could
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: also feel sorry for her because she does have a
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: horrible mother and she did have some bad things happen
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: to her. But the calculating and being fake to people's faces,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: I will never forgive reality show or not. This isn't traitors.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: This was a reality show. You're supposed to look at
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: that when you're acting like, when you're being their friend,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to be their friend.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: So just to clarify, so she went and was like,
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: you should get these cameras. Yes. And she was like.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: According to this story.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: And she was like, oh, where do I do that?
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: She was like, I'll set it all up. I mean,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: that's genius. And it makes me wonder about, like, The
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: legality of it, because this person was agreeing to do
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: this with her.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Well, it's like, listen, anybody that's trying to be an
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: assistant to an entertainer in 2024, good fucking luck. Because
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: I literally am terrified.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: So she was her assistant?
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: She was kind of one of her glorified assistants.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Do you think finding out that this woman created Reality
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: of Antis so that she could get herself on Real
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Housewives of Salt Lake City is going to help people
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: figure out that you are Dorit doing a character?
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: No.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: That your entire career was just Dorit establishing herself, like
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: talking about gossip and that sort of thing so she
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: could play herself up and then make it onto Real
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Housewives of Beverly Hills.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: You think that is what Dorit is doing?
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: I think that's who you've been for the past 30
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: years of your career was just Dorit Kemsley in a wig.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, whatever anybody would say, would you be on the Housewives?
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm too on the inside. You would
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: never hire someone that's like, So if they knew who
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: she was– what I don't like about anonymous stuff, which
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: I've said, is that by hiding behind anonymous things– and listen,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: I follow a lot of these anonymous influencers in this
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: world and they do really good work. But you do
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: have– you're not really putting yourself out there because you
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: could be this anonymous person who's putting out all this
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: crazy info about a Dorit. And then go to an
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: event as a completely different person and make friends with
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Dorit and maybe go to her home and maybe see
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: PK and then go back and be typing away. That's
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: why it's scary.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: This woman needs to be working for the CIA. I
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: think she's brilliant. She should possibly be running our country.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: I am, it's so impressive. Okay, you say that now,
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: but I think if season one or two of Beverly Hills,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: they had come to you and said, Do you want
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: to do this? I think there was a point when.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Like the paths diverged where.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: It was like you could have because like you were,
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: you had so much.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I was just never wealthy enough. But now they don't care.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: This girl doesn't have any money either. Now they don't
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: care because the wealthy people are too smart to do it.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: So they need the poor people.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, let's be fair to Alex McCord. It's
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: never mattered that much.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: OK, so then she says in the thing about her mother,
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: you know, because she said one of the sad stories
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: she said on the show was when my mom when
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I was 12, my mom dropped me off at this
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: this family. I didn't even know who they were. They
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: weren't even relatives to watch me for like a year
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: while she went to New York for work. And I
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: was like, what is the work? Was it to be
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: a rockette? Was it to go after a rich guy?
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was, you know, selling IBM computers.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: What the fuck was the work? so now today yesterday
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: she revealed to Andy yes it was to pursue a
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: you know work in television actress whatever said television and
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: so then she's like and when I went to my
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: mom's house after I did my final interview and I
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: think I bombed I didn't think I was going to
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: get it I laid on her couch I was crying
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: and she goes let's say a prayer And she's like,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: this is what the mom says to her. Let's say
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: a prayer. And she goes, the prayer was, if Monica
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't get it, won't they give it to me? Will
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: they give it to me? And so now they're not
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: talking because the mom wasn't happy with her performance and
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't happy with. And there's video of this girl, Monica.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Filmed a lot of her mom being horrible to her.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: And then she would send it to Tanisha, who is
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: a hairdresser for Heather Gay, who is also one of
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: the people that have access to the Reality Von Teese Instagram.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: And she was not big on picking up the phone.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: She was big on doing audio messages and sending videos
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: and everything. That girl now has released it all. And
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: one of the videos she shows is the mom scolding
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: her for her performance in at this girl Angie's Easter party.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: And she was like, you were awful. You were screaming.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: And she's like, mom, you need to protect me. You know,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: why are you getting mad at me? And she's like,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: she goes, the producer said I did great. Monica says
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: to the mom, the producer said I did great. And
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: she goes, I don't care what the producer says. This
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: is not the goal of this. You're an actress. And
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: if you're going to continue on, you can't be a
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: complete asshole is what the mom was saying. The mom
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: was kind of giving her good advice. She was kind
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: of like, peel it back a little so that these
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: women like you and you continue to stay. The mom
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: knew what, the mom was a better acting coach. than
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: the producer.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: A 45-year-old woman getting dance-mommed makes me thrilled. I do think.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's 45. If she listens to this,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I'll probably think she's most angry about it.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: The thing is, as a fan of Survivor, watching how
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: the show has evolved over the years is fascinating. Watching
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: how housewife shows evolved with things like Jill Zarin figuring
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: out that you could call a gossip columnist and get
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: something Like, watching the shows gently turn into traitors is
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: like three-dimensional.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: It really kind of is, and I think we don't,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It made the season good, so it's like,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: this is, it is what it is. I'm not going
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: to say what I want, who I, I never want
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: to say, like, this person should come back or not
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: come back or whatever. I think it would be pretty
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: inauthentic if she came back and they had to act
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: like they could be her friend.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: But you want that, like, you do want that core
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: of authenticity. The fact that, like, Ramona was so old
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: school that you always knew that at the end of
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: the day, even if she was mad at Sonia, she
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: liked being friends with, like, just you want to have
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: those friendships that feel real.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Those friendships are deep. It's like they can be jealous
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: of each other and they can be like, you're annoying.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: But like, yeah, they're, you know, somebody gets sick in
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: the family, someone dies, they're going to be there, like,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Do you think that Dorit feels lost since Kyle became
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: a lesbian?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: What I want to just finish this. Then we're going
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: to get into Beverly Hills. We're getting into Beverly Hills.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: So anyway, that was revealed. The mom is a piece
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: of shit also.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: So then this is also a piece of shit, mom.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: This is Blac Chyna's mom. Blac Chyna's ex-boyfriend said that
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: the mom was sending him DMs saying, Blac Chyna, my daughter,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: is jealous of my natural better body than Blac Chyna
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: and was sending him like sexy DMs.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: Things. Wonderful.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: So I just thought there was a real connection between
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: Monica and her mom.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: And then there's a version of it here. And I
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: just think, my God, these women are not going to
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: have a good Mother's Day this year.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's really hard. You want people to be
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: able to support their children. Like, do you think if
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: your daughter ended up on a reality show, you would
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: be able to have a healthy sense of distance or
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: would you try to put yourself into it as much
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: as possible?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I would just be in it when she wants
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: me to be in it. You know, like I say
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: that too when people are like, will you be part
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: of my reality show? I'm like, throw me around in
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: the room. I will come to your party.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think I want to like sign up for
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: a real thing, but you know, you never know. But anyway,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I want to just say one more thing. The photo
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: that's not featured here is Mary. Mary is a cult
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: leader that married her step grandfather and had a child
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: with him. And she was in the first part of
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: the season in which she just told everybody straight to
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: their face, like, I hate you. You're awful. I don't
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: want to be here. Don't sit next to me. Get
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: away from me, little girl. She was like always awful
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: to everybody. So then we now know they just stopped
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: inviting her to shit.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: So she comes in and now she's like, they're like,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: who do you like, Mary? And she's like, I like
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Monica because she's pretty. I don't like you, Heather. And
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Heather's like, well, you said I look like I was inbred.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: And she goes, well, you do. But you said a
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: mean thing about my house. And he's like, wait, what
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: she said about your decorated house is worse than what
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: you said saying that she was inbred? She's like, yes,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: I do think it's worse. And I'm like, I'm like
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: the fact that everybody's sitting on this couch. Nobody is
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: like you ran a cult and you live in a
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: house with millions and millions of dollars of goods that
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: you got from your poor, dumb people that you convinced
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: that you were the second coming of Jesus Christ who
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: gave you money, who you then bought designer crap with.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: And now you're sitting here. Like, I just am like,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: I don't, I mean, she is weird. She's entertaining. But, like,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: the fact that no one brings up the fact that
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: she's running a corrupt church for her own gain is
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: so weird that no one will say that on stage.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, but I do kind of also understand
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: not wanting to go after those things that are at
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: the core of someone. Like, if you do have any
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: regard for someone, understanding, like, like, there are just aspects
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: of people that are so fundamental to them that you're like, oh,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not going there. You know, it's like if I
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: were friends with the president of France, like it would
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: be totally crazy. Even if I got in a fight
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: with him, I wouldn't bring up the fact that his
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: wife molested him when he was in high school.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: The fact that we don't talk more about that the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: current president of France is married to his teacher who
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: was his drama teacher, right?
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: It was a drama teacher. He was 15. She was 40.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: She was married with kids.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: They fully had an affair.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Have they seen May, December? Have they seen May, December
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: is my question.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: For people that don't know, they fully, and people get mad. Yes,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: it wasn't an affair because he wasn't, he was, I've
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: said this before, an affair. It's not an affair. She
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: molested him.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 4: Great.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: They, he went off to college.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: And she since has talked a little bit about, and
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: she got divorced and she was definitely thought he would
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: find young girls in college and never, but after college,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: he came back to her.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: And now he's like 45 and she's like 67 or something. But,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, seems to have worked out for you.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: She's the first lady of France. He became the president
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: of France when he was crazy young.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: I just don't get it. It's crazy that people don't
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: freak out more about it. It's insane. How are the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: French people walking around not... Do they not have debates?
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Do you imagine if Donald Trump was debating him and
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: didn't bring up the fact that his wife.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: But also.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know what their age of consent is, but
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: I think they have a cultural idea that a man
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: who is a teenager... has like full sexual agency, which
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: But still it was a teacher situation. And she was married,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: so it was like a triple strike.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Have you seen May, December yet?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, like I just hope they watch May, December and
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: then they have a moment like Charlie Melton and Julianne
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Moore where he gets to say like, maybe I wasn't
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: in control of myself.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: That's what he's like. And then she's like, you were,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: say it, you were. Who was in control? Who was
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: in control?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Who hit on me?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: You saw that that was from actual footage of Mary
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Kay Letourneau.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, when she was like, I remember that because I
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: was obsessed with that story, Mary Kay Letourneau. And she
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: was like, he was the aggressor. When he slept over
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: as my son's friend in the sixth grade and I
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: went down to get an ice water and he was
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: sleeping on the couch, he was the aggressor is what
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: she says.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Amazing. Amazing. But he's around, she's dead now, Mary Kay.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: And he's like hurt by this, okay, so there are
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: people who are like, should they have made this movie
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: considering that there is a victim out there and you're
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: sort of like re-traumatizing this person? Right. Or like what everyone,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: what the screenwriter has said is like, it's like inspired
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: by this thing that was in our culture. It's not
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: about this particular situation. Do you think it is wrong
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: for them to do this and not consult him or
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: talk to him at all? Or do you think... it's
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: fair game.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess it, if you consult him, then you
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: kind of got to take his two cents and give
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: him money. So I can see why they didn't, but
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: it is, it is kind of shitty. But at the
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: same time, I think he's, I don't know. He's made
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: money off of it. What would you do?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: I think the most important part of the movie, May, December,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: are there are two B shots of the pool being
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: shitty and then the pool being refinished. Just to remind you,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: that she got 10 to 20 grand off of letting
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: Natalie Portman come and job shadow her. And that's like- Right, I.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Wrote you about that. I was like, how are they
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: rich and living on this island? And I thought that
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: was kind of interesting that they like had waterfront property.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: And I was like, because the real couple, when I was,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: I remember I was doing a show at Bellevue Comedy
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Club in Washington State near Seattle. And then later in
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: the week, he was going to be a DJ and
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: it was hot for teacher night. And she was going
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: to come And the poster was her in a schoolgirl
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: outfit and him. So they were like hustling this still
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: like 10 years ago.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, the notion of this trauma that is still something
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: that you profit from is just so creepy and weird.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: What else are you going.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: To do, though?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: What else are you going to do? Okay, so you
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: were talking a little bit about Beverly Hills and you
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: wanted to ask me about Kyle and Morgan.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Yes. Like, I personally think that the real victim here, yes, is...
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Kyle's marriage breaking up does affect her children, but I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: think Dorit no longer having best Jewish couple friends is
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: really hard, and I think it hurts her place on
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: the show.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Well, recently, Kyle did an Amazon Live.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Which is, she's supposed to be selling products, but basically
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: she just spills tea. I don't really understand how it works. Anyways,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: of course somebody asked, and she said, well, Dorit said that,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: you know, we went on all these trips together.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: We....
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: Went on one trip as a foursome like three years ago,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: and all the other trips that she mentioned and showed
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: photos of were from cast trips. So she kind of
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: was being a little mean to Dorit. She's like, I
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: love Dorit, but come on. She's pushing down that Dorit
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: is feeling like we're no longer close, and we really
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: were close even when the cameras weren't around. And she's like,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: were we that close? I have gone back and forth
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: on her and Morgan's relationship. And it is literally like this.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's real, it's not real. It's for PR,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: it's to promote the thing. Maybe they fingered once, but
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: they aren't anymore. Now, I take it back. I do
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: think they're a couple.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: I think it lines up with all of the goofy,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: like the core goofinesses of Kyle's identity. Kyle crying because
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: people didn't like the hat store. And did you see
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: the Instagram of, Rihanna liked her hat store in Aspen.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: Like I was, I was so happy for Kyle, but
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: like this and look, we've, we've all known some late
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: in life lesbians in our lives. And I do think
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: Some that were waiting to come out.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: But I think for her, like, I think that this
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: was like potential bisexuality that was always there. And I
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: think just men take women for granted, especially over 35
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: or 40. And like, Having somebody who really appreciates you
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: and really takes care of you is very appealing in
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: its way. I just, look, Dorit is my favorite Beverly
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Hills housewife, but.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: She is built- Thank you, Guy. So many people have
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: seemed to have lost interest in what I'm really truly about.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: I think she is running on fumes right now. Her
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: identity for two to three seasons has been, I'm Kyle's
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: best friend, and now Kyle doesn't want her to be
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: her best friend. And there was a moment in this
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: season when it seemed like Crystal Kung Minkoff was going
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: to attempt to dislodge her jaw and eat Kyle and
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: eat Dorit. And I was like, wonderful. Let there be
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: a little fight before there is the big fight between
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: the people.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: Are we scared that this could be Dorit's last run?
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: I'm really, really worried about it.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: I am too. For the first time, even though they
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: had a good therapy session where they're talking about how
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: he's like, you're not the happy, you know, you were
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: so excited, which I was like, Yeah, they do a
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: therapy session. He's like, she was so enthusiastic and everything
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: in the beginning. Well, 10 years ago, he was this
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: older rich guy and she was this young girl that
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: didn't have an English accent and had a different face.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: And he let her spend and spend and spend. And
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: now she's not impressed with a pretty woman evening. She's not.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: And it's like, well, that's what happens. Guys get a
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: young girl. And they're so excited that the guy bought
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: them a pair of shoes that they're going to prance
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: around in them and tell all their friends. And their
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: 50-year-old first wife wasn't that excited about any gift the
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: guy got them. But then that young girl eventually becomes
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: just like wife one and is no longer impressed with you.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: And that's all it is.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: Kyle can get away with a season of just doing
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: light comedy in family scenes. There's nobody else who can
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: get away with a full season of just doing light
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: comedy in family scenes. And I really hope that Dorit
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: gets another season. And I don't think she will. But
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: if Dorit attempted to take down Crystal or the new girl.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: What's the new girl's name?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Anne-Marie.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Anne-Marie. If she really attempted to Lucy Lucy Apple Juice
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: one of them. Yeah.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: I would be thrilled by that. I think that that
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: would be good television. I think if she could properly
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: stay out of the sights of Garcelle or Sutton, she
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: could be really fun B-stories on a lot of shows.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: So do you think Kyle and Morgan Wade are going
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: to be the reality version of Sarah Paulson and Holland Taylor,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: the May-December lesbian relationship that's been going on for at
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: least 10 years?
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Not at all. I respect... Sarah Paulson and her relationships
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: so much they are the fucking classiest Holland Taylor of
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: course Cherry Jones yes and looking at Sarah Paulson I
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: don't know when you look at Kyle being around Morgan
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Wade I am just like she's I think truly enraptured.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you love my first of all I
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: hate her so much I don't I actually like the
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: song that she played at the memorial though that song
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with your friend dying But I,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: you know, I also think girls do steal style from
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: their girlfriends and boyfriends.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: How many times has, you know, look at Kourtney Kardashian
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: becoming a punker. Like it happens at every age. You know,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: it could totally happen. So I do think.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: But also lesbian couple merging is it's stronger. Like it
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: is like losing sense of boundaries.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Because it's a double. It's your girlfriend, your best friend,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: who's now you're sharing clothes with and style, but you're
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: also in love with them. So it's like a double
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: emerging of a thing. And so I do think she's
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: just enjoying that style. She's sober like Morgan. She's fit
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: like Morgan. Now she's getting into Morgan's music. She's doing
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: her documentary. She's done with, she's like had an awakening.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: And I do think, but this is what I was thinking.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: I think once she breaks up with Morgan, if they
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: don't end up their days together, I don't think she'll
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: have another lesbian relationship. I think she'll go back to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: being with either Mauricio or another guy.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: She'll go back to Mauricio.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: Okay. I think the thing is, is like, this is
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: not a situation. This is not a situation where like
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: a high functioning service lesbian came, like a service top
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: lesbian who is like, I'm going to be in control,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: but for you. Came to where Kyle was. She made
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: Kyle pick up everything and move everything. And, like, Kyle
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to be sober. Kyle doesn't, you know, she
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: wants to be a little bit fit. But, like, I
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: really do think that this is something she'll do for
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: an exquisite 18 months. And then I think she will
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: find out about Morgan having strayed a little bit in
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: some way. And then, like, it'll be a journey out
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: of that and then a journey back to Mauricio.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 4: Because.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Or Morgan.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: We'll just kind of go out of her. Just like,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: you know, like I'm kind of over this and I
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: got what I needed out of it. I don't know.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: Right now they're very close. They spent her birthday together
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: in Mexico. They're walking around in similar outfits.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Okay. The other way I think this could go is
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: Kyle gets brought into, and one of the things that's
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: hard about this is like becoming a lesbian involves merging
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: into this, like potentially this larger world of female friendship
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: that isn't any of these ladies that we love. But
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: I think if she goes to some lesbian parties and
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: then one of Morgan's friends or one of Morgan's ex-girlfriends
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: makes a play at her, that is the only step
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: up the ladder of lesbianism I think that she makes.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: Would be if, let's be honest, a higher ranking, more
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: powerful lesbian, like if one of Jodie Foster's exes was
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: at a party and was like, hey Kyle, I really
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: love you on the show. I think that that could happen.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: But I don't think that's ever going to happen because
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: a real power lesbian... is not going to be interested
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: in a Kyle type, do you think?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: I think, like, they, like, for some of them, the
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: notion of having a status wife, the notion of being
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: a husband, like, I think that there are LA power
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: lesbians who would like the appeal of being a Mauricio
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: or a PK on this show. You know, like, I
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: show up, I make her happy, and then I go off,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: and that's my place in this world.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, but also, no, before we move on, do you
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: think Sutton overplayed her hand this season?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: No. What do you mean overplayed her hand?
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Just being her.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Acting like the PTSD thing?
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: Making everything about her and being so aggressive and kind
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: of putting herself into a situation where even Garcelle wasn't
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: excited about defending her.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I just think there's seasons where there
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: just isn't that much going on with you.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 5: And.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: You know, and you are like, uh, I, and I
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: don't think she's over the, whatever happened that night. I
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: think that she is freaked out about it and she
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: is going to use it for sympathy and he's over it.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: He's tired of it. Um, about the robbery because he's like, well,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: you know, you weren't hurt.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about Sutton.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, Sutton.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Sorry.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: I thought I said to read. Um, Sutton with, oh
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: my God, let's just talk about the bad acting at
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: the casting of her dates. They're all former actors. I
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm watching Million Dollar Listing, which I'm going
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: to get to right here. Million Dollar, not listing, Million
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Dollar Matchmaker. This is Patty.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: The amazing Patty Stanger.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: This is Patty now. And I've been friends with her
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: for a long time. And I know since... Now Netflix
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: just bought the show and I couldn't believe it. So
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: I went back and was watching it from 2011. And
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: I just want to say her work on her face
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: is so good to think that in this day and age,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: you could be cuter and hotter at 60 than you
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: were at like 43 is why it's great to be
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: born today.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: Do you know her well enough to find out the
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: name of the doctors?
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure she would tell me. She told me
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: she got her teeth done. So that's a big, big difference.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: She always had full lips, but I think she had
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: her full. This is what I think. I think she just,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: I think she had her nose done. And I think
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: she got jaw filler and cheekbones because I'm watching the
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: show and she didn't have that. So what? And then
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: she lost weight and she looks amazing. Looks fucking amazing
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: because this was her.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: And she, where are these two people? So she had
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: these two for million dollar matchmaking. For those that don't know,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: it was one of the first Bravo shows. It was
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: on for years and she would, I meet my millionaires.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: And she put people. It was all very produced and
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: cast and everything. Okay. I don't think any two people
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: that met on the show ever ended up together. But
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: outside of that, she claimed that she really did have
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: matches that ended up together. So for some reason, she
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: had this couple that looked like they run a tattoo parlor.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: It was ridiculous.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: It made no sense why she had them. And then
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: they sit around and talk about these girls' styles, that
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: their dress doesn't fit, and that nobody likes a redhead.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is what we're talking about? These
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: two people?
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: It was the magnificent ridiculousness of a more cast and
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: a more sort of like... The beginning of reality was
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: so weird. We didn't know what we were doing, and.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: It is just amazing. So on this episode, they had
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: this guy, Gummy Bear. And his name in real life was,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: was he Jason? Yeah, he was Jason Davies, who inherited
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: all this money. And so I just watched that episode
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: from like 2011. And he was like such a mess.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: And his brother was named Jason Davies. And so coincidentally,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: how the world universe just brings me something. So I
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: was talking to you about it.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: And I go, remember that time? Yesterday on TMZ, they
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: brought up the fact that in the Mean Girls movie,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: the musical, they make a fire crotch reference.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: Which now Lindsay Lohan did not know until she like
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: went to the premiere or watched it. So she's not
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: happy because there was this moment when Jason Davies, who's
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: now engaged to a Pretty Little Liars actress, he was
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: hanging out with Paris. And they said, oh, what's up
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: with Lindsay? And he goes, Lindsay's a fire crotch. She's
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: a fire crotch. And here it is, Lindsay Lohan, she's
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: a fire crotch. And Lindsay's dad now is getting involved.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Why would they put that in the movie? Why would
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: they bring it up? Well, on that episode, the same
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: episode with the Gubby Bear guy, there's a redhead on
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: the show that's trying to get on. And Patty Singer's like, no,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: you're not hot enough. You're not cute enough. You're not allowed.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: And then she shows up at the party. Of course,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: produced product. And then Patty goes. Get the hell out
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: of my party. You're an ugly redhead. You're always going
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: to be something like that. And she's like, you're a
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: fire crotch. And she calls her a fire crotch. The
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: girl trying to get on the show.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: Did we do a monologue about that on Chelsea Lately?
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: We always talked about these things. This was the time
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: of Lindsay, Britney, Paris. It was that 2009 to 2011 time.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: Beautiful times.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: But she would tell people, these girls would walk in
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: and she'd be like, you're ugly, no one's gonna wanna
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: fuck you. It's literally that mean. She's like, fix your teeth.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: We 100% could not do now. It would be, now
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: it would all be about learning and growing. But it
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: is beautiful to look back on that time.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: No, there's even a part in this where the Gubby
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Bear guy, he was Jason, Jason, right? Brandon was the
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: one who said the firecracker's alive. Jason goes, he's with
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: this girl, he gets a girl and he's like... asking
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: her about her underwear, what's under her skirt. And he's like,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: but is there a cock under there? Cause that I
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: don't want any part of. And she's like, no.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: Oh Jesus.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: Like, no, I mean, we were.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: Like, but I just hope people don't go after her
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: because this was a completely different time.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, it is really horrifying to look back at
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: the way that trans people were talked about in media,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: like five years ago, seven years ago. And it is really,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: it is really rough. And I, Like, there are so
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: many people who are so lucky that nothing from Chelsea
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: lately is accessible online because so many of us would
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: be destroyed.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: And that's why I'm saying, like, nobody needs to go
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: on this. If you want to spend your time and
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: go on this and then write her mean stuff or
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: start a mean hate group, it's not going to matter
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: because it's so long ago and nobody is going to
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: agree to it.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: But.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: I am sucked in. I am thoroughly enjoying. But also,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: we all just, when we see these things, we just
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: need to learn. Oh, because even just, like, even just, like.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: The unfashions.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: But, like, Robert Downey Jr., who is going to win
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: an Academy Award this year, was nominated for an Academy
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: Award for a blackface performance 13 years ago. And, like, there's, like, truly,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: it's wonderful how much the world has changed. But I
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: think particularly for young people, they don't understand how to
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: deal with it. And I think it is weird for
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: us to watch stuff from not that long ago and
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: just be like, Jesus Christ.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: Conventional wisdom was so horrible to so many people. I
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: just want to say... I want.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: To know where these two people are, by the way.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: Matchmaking is an ancient and respected Jewish profession. And if
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: I am going to have a Shadchan, I want her
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: to be carrying an extra 15 pounds. Like, I trust...
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: those bosoms to find me a man much.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Better than the skinny fabulous version.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: I wonder how much of that is Ozempic and how
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: much of that is like.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: She's been skinny for a while. She's been looking amazing
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: for a while.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: Okay. Why does... Why does Erica refuse to admit that
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: it's the O? Or do you think it is?
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: I think now people will admit it. Because the reason
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: why is last year, if you said it, then everyone
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: came after you and were like, you're taking it.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: You're keeping diabetics.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: Now that you, there's so many versions of it and
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: so many ways to get it. Now people are being
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: honest about it. There's still some people that have been
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: skinny their whole lives that aren't as cute as their
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: heavier friend who's now hotter than them because they always
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: had a cuter face. Who's like, you're cheating. And it's like,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: Do what you want. And then people are always so
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: excited to hear that someone's bowels fell out in the
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: toilet or whatever. And I'm like, okay, so be careful.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work for everybody. Just like any medication doesn't
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: work for everybody. But clearly, it's a miracle drug.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: Where do you think they are now?
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: These people?
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: Someone will find them for me, Juicy Scoopers. They– well,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: I remember talking to her about it and she said
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: they didn't want to come back to the show. They
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: wanted more money and they were going to do their
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: own– they thought they were going to get their own show, Matchmaking.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: Like punkers who matchmake. I don't know what they're going
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: to call. And I think they're probably not in the
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: business at all, like probably no longer together because they
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: probably blamed each other for the breakup.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: You know, just having normal lives. Just working. Maybe she's, like,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: a hairdresser and he's, like, a tattoo artist or something.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: Well, there's the really rough thing about, like, first 10
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: or 15 years of reality TV. It's possible that they
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: were just getting supporting characters.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Like, $ 2, 000. Yeah. And then they were seeing all the
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: popularity and were like, well, if we can't get $ 3, 000
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: an app. And they're like, well, then goodbye. Patty, just
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: dump them. You need a different thing.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but. Also, that's okay to leave because it's like
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: you might have tapped out. Like if this is all
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: you've gotten after being on three years, your fourth year
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: isn't going to like pop you into an amazing spot.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: Because after her success, they tried to do a show
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: called The Headhunteress. And my friend got cast as. What
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: is that? It was like she was like a high
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: end like headhunter for businesses. And they ran the pilot
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: on Bravo a couple of times. But like they cast
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: her secretary. They did not use her actual secretary. they
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: like cast, um, my, my friend who at that time
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: presented as hot gay and is now non-binary. You know,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: we'll see how we present like, or like, it is
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: more appropriate to use they as pronouns for them. Um,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: but they, at that point in time looked like hot
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: gay man.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: Um, but they like figured themselves out and now present
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: as more a lady.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, all right. Well, who knows? I'm going to end
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: on this as how someone sent this to me and
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: they go, I bet this was a movie Heather loved.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: It was called Angel.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: It was one of my favorite made for TV movies.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: High school honor student by day. Hollywood hooker by night.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: Her two worlds are about to collide. It's her choice,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: her chance, her life. You guys, I have to get
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: my hands on this movie. I absolutely watched it growing up.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: Like literally put it in my calendar, could not wait
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: for it to come out. I loved anything about street
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: walking because I liked their slutty outfits that you had
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: to wear to be a street walking hooker. Now you
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: just do it at your own home with OnlyFans.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: And she went to a private school like I did
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: and had a very nice life but loved being a hooker.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: Can you believe someone wrote this? A girl under 18
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: wants to be a hooker? Wants to be a sex worker?
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: Which they called hooker back then.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: There's also the way that late 70s, early 80s, we
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: were obsessed with the sexuality of teenagers. It was like
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: making a movie about how 13-year-olds wanted to get it
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: on with adult men. was supposed to be sophisticated. Though,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: I finally, I listened to the podcast, You Must Remember This,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: about Polly Platt, and I didn't realize- Who's Polly Platt?
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: Polly Platt is the woman who was married to the
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: guy who directed Last Picture Show. She's who Irreconcilable Differences
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: is based on.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: So her husband was a director, and she worked with him,
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: and then they broke up, and he stopped making good movies.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: And then she produced a bunch of stuff and wrote
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff, And when I realized that Pretty
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: Baby was written by a woman, and like a smart
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: woman who I respected, I was like, oh God, this
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: movie that I've always considered very gross, I will go
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: and watch it. And it ended up being an interesting
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: movie that was trying to like grapple with the commodification
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: of women's sexuality. But then did you watch the Brooke
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Shields documentary?
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, and I've watched the movie too, yeah.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: But like the Brooke Shields documentary, her children just being like,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: I never want to see that. Like having to, like
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: realizing that there are children out there who have to
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: be like, there's a movie about my mom being sexualized
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: as a child, which is really gross. But I also
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: think that like when you are a 13, 14, 15
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: year old girl, particularly, did you watch?
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just like, I'm just thinking about this movie. Okay,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: first of all, it was written by this guy, Robert
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: Vincent O'Neill. Where is he? And then also, like, I
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: have to deal with this movie. Like, why did she
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: have to do it? Like, just like when I think
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: about Pretty Woman, you know, I'm like, But Pretty Woman,
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  Speaker 1: the character of Julie Roberts, before she got picked up
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  Speaker 1: in the car, was, like, going in strangers' cars and, like,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: sucking strangers' dirty dick for $ 100.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: And living with drug-addicted Laura San Giacomo. And having sex.
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  Speaker 1: And having full-blown sex with strangers.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: And also, but, like, just beyond that is the knowledge that, like,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: because of those women's place in society and the economy—
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: A third of those guys thought that they got to
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: knock them around or whatever. And the fact that we
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: make this movie that romanticizes it is so strange.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: It's so crazy.
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  Speaker 2: But did you see the movie Bottoms? I mean, I
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: cannot imagine it as something you wanted to see.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: No, but I saw the ad. It was about gay guys, right?
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: No, no. Am I getting the name wrong?
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: No, but it was girls and guys, but what's it about?
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Was it not about gay sex?
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: It's about lesbian sex. It's about girls who start a
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: fight club at their high school. But, like, one of
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: the jokes in it is that, like, high school is
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: just this machine for celebrating the changes in men's bodies. Like,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: you know, the way that, like, every high school football
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: player is, like, a pinup that the school is getting
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: excited about and cheering for. And, like, Women have traditionally
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: not had people who were, like, getting excited about, in, like,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: a comfortable way with their coming to sexual agency. And
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: I think that I know so many women around my
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: age who would watch this or, like, that, was it
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: called Foxes? Yeah, Foxes. Who were just like, yes, I
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: am having these feelings. I want to go on these
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: adventures in a safe way, the way that Christy McNichol
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: gets to, and not in a way that involves my
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: uncle looking at me weird when I wear a tight shirt.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Guy Branum, we gotta wrap it up.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: Tell everybody where they can follow you, what you have
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: going on.
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  Speaker 2: I am at Guy Branum across all social media. I
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: have a.
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  Speaker 2: A show at the Elysian on May 7th in Los Angeles.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: And people, I think tickets are coming out as part
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: of Netflix is a joke. Oh, classy. And my talk
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: show got taken off of Max. So you can no
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: longer watch it there. So it doesn't exist now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, well, wait. But you said you have another show
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. That was just from the past.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, from the past.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Okay.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, you're working on so many things. You're a writer, producer, showrunner,
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  Speaker 1: show creator. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Actor. We all have a lot of hyphens.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: You have a lot of shit going on. So follow
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: Guy besides him being brilliant.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: Yes. You're a game show guest. You're a singer. You're
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: a licensed real estate agent.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: No, not any. Well, I let that expire.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: So technically I'm not. I, during the strike, was like,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: do I have to re-up my bar membership? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Did you?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, thank you so much, everyone. Go to HeatherMcDowell.net for
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  Speaker 1: all of my stuff. Patreon Friday. Thank you.
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