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Sex, bribes, and spies: Glaxo China pharma scandal · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  The pharma scandals that we cover on the Nurses Report often have the same general storyline.
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  Pharma has a drug that they believe is worth billions.
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  They lie about its safety and efficacy.
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  The bodies pile up.
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  Eventually the truth comes out, and nobody goes to prison.
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  The fines are less than the profits.
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  The piles of cash are higher than the piles of bodies.
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  Today's episode of The Nurses Report is a pharma scandal of a different variety.
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  Sex, bribes, and spies.
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  Sometimes international affairs are conducted at the country level.
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  Sometimes international affairs happen in apartments with hidden cameras.
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  And sometimes there is overlap between both.
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  This story isn't just salacious.
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  We again get to see the patterns from the pharma playbook that apply directly to what we are seeing in the world today.
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  To keep things as simple as possible, I'm going to go through this story in chronological order.
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  Know that this information is from a multitude of lawsuits spanning the globe over the past decade and a half.
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  But many of the lawsuit documents were never unsealed, and so we are left with primary sources that are untrustworthy.
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  Galaxo Smith Klein and the Chinese Communist Party.
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  Take it all with a grain of salt, including our opinions to the lawyers at Galaxo.
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  We are commentators, and these are our opinions based on our understanding of your wildly illegal, immoral, and psychopathic behavior.
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  So with that in mind, Nurse Nicole, how would you like to introduce yourself to the lawyers at Galaxo and the audience?
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  Lawyers from Glasgow and everyone else listening.
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  This is Nurse Nicole reporting live from Central Florida.
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  20-year acute care nurse who uh pushes back and challenges all things that are corrupt and um not okay, and uh have predominantly been in the cardiac field of nursing for those 20 years and really heavily try to teach people when it comes to informed consent, bali sovereignty, knowing their rights, and pushing it back against these particular organizations and pharma ghouls as we call them for taking advantage of our most vulnerable population.
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  So thank you.
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  Ashley, what would you like the lawyers at Glaxo to know about you?
• 3:33
  Well, they can read my text messages and find out.
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  Um I'm feeling particularly spicy tonight, so brace yourselves, folks.
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  It's gonna be fun.
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  Um, Ashley Grog, Master Scrad Registered Nurse from Indiana, and I'm just really done with all the malarkey, and so you know, here's your disclaimer these thoughts and opinions are of my own, not of my current or previous employers.
• 4:01
  And here we go.
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  All right, my name is David Wayne.
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  I'm a registered nurse with a background in inpatient hospital psychiatry.
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  I've also dabbled in informatics and forensic nursing, and my critics say I am a dangerous conspiracy theorist who is lying and and just a danger to their patients and their fellow co-workers.
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  So with all that in mind, we are going to go back in time a little bit.
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  The year is 2012.
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  Imagine a modern office building in Shanghai, China.
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  There's a huge logo across the top of the building.
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  Glaxo Smith Klein.
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  Glaxo is based out of the UK, but they have offices and facilities all over the globe, and China is the fastest growing market for pharmaceuticals.
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  The Glaxo offices in Shanghai are filled with both British and Chinese citizens promoting the interests of the corporation in this massive and crucial market.
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  As it turns out, these offices are also full of criminals.
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  One of the ways Galaxo China promotes the interests of the company is through illegal bribery.
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  This money is filtered through the expense accounts of their sales reps and through third-party vendors, particularly travel agencies.
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  This part of this scandal was interesting to me because it immediately brought to mind some of the other scandals that we've covered where the bad behavior is laundered.
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  So part of the pharma playbook is to outsource their fraud and their deception and their criminal behavior to these third-party companies.
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  It gives them some plausible deniability and that sort of thing.
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  So Purdue did this with OxyContin.
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  They aggressively marketed it through uh a consulting firm called McKinsey, where a whole bunch of the staff at McKinsey were simultaneously opioid regulators at the FDA.
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  It was just bonkers how corrupt that was.
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  But it wasn't Purdue doing it directly.
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  They were doing it through this innocent third-party firm.
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  So it's it's also it's also dirty and broken, and uh another example that's actually really important is Pfizer's use of Vintavia for the COVID vaccine clinical trials.
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  And that's the subject, of course, of the Brooke Jackson whistleblower lawsuit, which is ongoing today and an important one that we will keep you updated about as it unfolds.
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  But anyway, back to Shanghai, 2012.
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  These Chinese travel agencies are critical players in facilitating things like luxury vacations for doctors and healthcare executives.
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  So they take these influential people on air quotes free trips throughout the world.
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  Ain't nothing for free.
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  And again, some of these things are applicable to the modern world as well.
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  They're given thousands of dollars for travel expenses during their free trip.
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  So, you know, you'll get a daily stipend of thousands of dollars for meals when you're going to a place where you know that's just it's just ridiculous.
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  Now, sometimes these trips even included high class prostitutes.
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  And this reminded me of my time working in uh pharmacy as a pharmacy technician, where we would have the entire staff of the pharmacy invited to some of these drug repners, and we could not help but notice that the pharma sales reps were dropped dead gorgeous, overflowing cleavage.
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  And one of the pharmacists told us about how they learned in pharmacy school that this is what these companies do.
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  They don't hire people with backgrounds in science, they hire cheerleaders.
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  Like they they literally target cheerleaders to be their reps.
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  So sex sells not just in Hollywood, but uh in in pharma as well.
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  So when I was uh when I was doing research on this story, I I ran across another story with a little bit of overlap.
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  Apparently, and I haven't seen it yet.
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  There's a Netflix film called Pain Hustlers that is based on a pharma company who they didn't stop at cheerleaders.
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  They they literally hired strippers and exotic dancers and encouraged them to have sex with doctors in order to motivate them to sell a spray version of fentanyl, and it ended up leading to thousands of overdose deaths, and so that is definitely going to be a future episode of the nurses' report.
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  So uh they also pay them exorbitant speaking fees, Galaxio was was paying these doctors through luxury watches, Rolex watches, and some of it was just in cash.
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  They were getting what they were called red packages, which is just a good old envelope full of cash.
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  Their bribery budget uh wasn't just limited to these influential people in healthcare, they were also making these hush money payments to people who were injured by lamictal.
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  This part of this scandal immediately made my ears perk up because lamictal is given a lot on psych units.
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  It can be used for bipolar disorder.
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  It's also used for epilepsy, it's an anti-convulsant, but a very common side effect is the lamictal rash, which is quite unpleasant, quite uncomfortable.
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  But if you're really, really unlucky, there's a condition called Stevens Johnson syndrome, and this is basically the lamictal rash times a hundred.
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  It gets to the point where your skin and your mucous membranes die and slouch off, and it is life threatening, it can very easily be fatal.
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  This was happening to Chinese citizens, and Glaxo did not want their federal regulators to get wind of how common it was, and so what they were doing is they were going to families affected by this with cash and paying them.
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  Them off to be quiet.
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  Now, in terms of the regulators involved, those were other people in China who were getting these bags of cash.
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  Glaxo was just going to them with cash money to keep them quiet about the sometimes fatal side effects of their drugs.
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  So for the record, Nurse Cole, have you ever uh gotten a red package of cash from Glaxo or Pfizer or any uh any of the other companies we talk about?
• 10:27
  No, I cannot say I have.
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  Ashley, how how's it going with you?
• 10:34
  Unfortunately, no, mine hasn't been delivered.
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  It must have got you know lost in the Shanghai mail.
• 10:39
  Yeah, we're we're still waiting for our uh sponsorship from Glaxo or Pfizer on the nurses report, but uh it's just not it's just not there for some reason.
• 10:50
  I don't know.
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  I'll let the audience speculate as to why.
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  So this bribery budget is at the point where it's roughly a hundred million dollars a year just in China alone.
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  Uh so when you add these things up, when you add up their budget for marketing and for lobbying and for bribery, it's way more than they spend on research and development.
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  Can we pause just for a moment?
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  That's just in China.
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  That's just in China.
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  Yeah.
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  That's that's not including the United States.
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  That's not including countries like India that's not including you know, Africa or all of Europe.
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  I mean, come on.
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  One company in one country in one year, a hundred million dollars was their budget.
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  I I don't know if you can answer this question, but you put us on the spot all the time.
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  So in the beginning, you you said that China is now their greatest market.
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  Is it the greatest market because they're selling so many drugs there, or because they do so much business there?
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  Like their headquarters are there.
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  It's their fastest growing market.
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  Um, so it's I don't know if it's actually overtaken the US yet.
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  I don't believe it has, but the U.S.
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  market is already so saturated with pharma.
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  China is recognized as being the fastest growing market.
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  That's gonna be really interesting to see.
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  I mean, is the health declining so rapidly?
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  Is it because of their aging population?
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  Is it because of fertility?
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  Uh I mean, there's so much that could be leading to more and more scandals.
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  Sorry to derail for a second, but I just found that really interesting.
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  Well, and it's an interesting question about headquarters too, because we will get to that aspect of this story.
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  It's pretty interesting.
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  Just think about that.
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  Next, I mean, next time you're at the pharmacy counter, like you're paying your copay, some fraction of that money that you pay as a copay when you're picking up a medication is going to pay for sex workers for doctors that are on a trip.
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  Uh it's just it's it's kind of mind-boggling.
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  But this is this is nothing new.
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  There are scandals like this involving every single pharmaceutical company going back decades.
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  All right, back in Shanghai in 2012.
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  In this situation, Glaxo China has a big problem.
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  They have a secret whistleblower from within their own company who is leaking very damaging information, not just to leadership at Glaxo back in their headquarters in the United Kingdom, but also to the Chinese government, to Chinese regulators.
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  So not to derail things again, but corporate espionage is definitely a specialty of the Chinese Communist Party.
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  We see this all the time in the US, that Chinese nationals steal intellectual property from corporations and from universities.
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  This is a game that they are very good at.
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  So Ashley, we are here and we're talking about Glaxo, and this is not our first rodeo with Glaxo.
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  We've talked about them before on multiple episodes of Nurses Out Loud.
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  Can you remind us about the scandal regarding Xantac?
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  Yeah, Xantac is one of those wild things, and it it's even hard to imagine because unfortunately we know it's come out through lawsuits that Glaxco did the testing.
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  They knew that it was unstable, that when it was heated, whether that's sitting in the back room of backstore room, or whether it was in a semi-trailer, that it breaks down to N, I always say it wrong, NDMA, which is something that's given to lab rats to cause cancer.
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  And and they don't know the true extent of how much it breaks down.
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  Their testing has been done, but it's limited.
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  They're saying that it's negligible, still pulled from the market.
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  And, you know, unfortunately, they went on for decades while this was a number one selling drug, saying, Oh, there's no there's no evidence of that, but they had the evidence the whole time.
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  And that's you mentioned oxygen.
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  Um, I wanted to say oxytocin.
• 15:08
  That's not what that what I meant.
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  OxyContin, the pain medication that has caused amazing damage in overdoses and addiction.
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  Huge, huge problem, and then VIOX with all the heart attacks.
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  And of course, my favorite soapbox, vaccines.
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  Right?
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  And so this is a playbook that we see over and over and over again.
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  Um, the FDA finally forced Glasgow to pull Xantac from the market, but only because of the fact that an independent lab just completely buried them with independent data about the the risks.
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  So class action lawsuits continue.
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  And you know, here we go again.
• 15:58
  Yeah, here we go again.
• 15:59
  The uh Glaxo China bribery scandal is actually a very similar time frame to a recent episode we did where we were covering the Paxel scandal where it was being aggressively marketed to adolescents.
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  So, Nicole, can you give us a brief outline of that scandal?
• 16:15
  Yeah, I mean, there's a there's a handful of things, but basically it's you know, Glasgow was illegally marketing the antidepressant for unapproved uses, specifically in children and adolescents, when it was proven that they have never actually studied or tested the fact that the medication could be used or approved for pediatric use, and goes on to basically summarize saying that there was numerous lawsuits involved, where at one point I think in 2012 they agreed to pay three billion dollars as one of the largest health care fraud settlements in US history.
• 16:49
  Um, and also there was one for birth defects where they had 800 lawsuits, um, more than a billion dollars that was used that Paxel caused serious birth issues um and women that took it that were pregnant.
• 17:02
  So just a multitude of things that they were finding out after the fact that were never treated, you know, tested or treated to show that this was okay to give.
• 17:09
  Um, so they have a long-standing history of not only approving it for things that they've never proved could be used for, but also paying out hefty fines uh to those that unfortunately were succumbing to the injuries and death that it caused.
• 17:24
  Yeah, it's actually a lot of the exact same people in leadership at Glaxo as during the Paxel scandal.
• 17:31
  And it ties back to what we just talked about about them laundering their dirty work through these third-party companies because that's exactly what they did with Paxil.
• 17:41
  They had uh marketing firm actually write up the study that said that Paxel was safe and effective for adolescents, even though all the data said that was that it was unsafe and ineffective, and they used ghost authors and all that sort of thing.
• 17:57
  So again, we just see the same playbook being used over and over.
• 18:01
  And it it reminds me of that phrase that I first heard from Dr.
• 18:05
  Assim Malhochra, who was amazing over the course of COVID.
• 18:09
  He said the business model of pharma is fraud.
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  And take that to heart.
• 18:14
  That is so true.
• 18:15
  You really need to see the world through that lens, not just if you're a nurse and working in healthcare, but that's something that everybody needs to understand and recognize.
• 18:25
  So all right, let's uh let's take ourselves back to Shanghai 2012 again.
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  You can picture that office building that I mentioned earlier, and up there in the big corner office is a man, he's a Brit, and his name is Mark Riley.
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  He is the general manager of Glaxo Smith Klein China.
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  His wife, Jill, is also in a leadership position at Glaxo.
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  She is the director of capital planning, but she is back in the UK.
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  So this is definitely a Glaxo power couple here.
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  And Mark, he has to know that Glaxo China is breaking Chinese law.
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  I mean, the things that they're doing, there's there's no way that amount of money, a hundred million a year in bribery.
• 19:09
  There's no way he doesn't know that they're involved in illegal activities.
• 19:14
  But what he doesn't know is which one of their employees is the one who is releasing this incriminating information, both to his boss back in the UK, where his wife is also working, and to the Chinese Communist Party about their illegal activity.
• 19:30
  But, you know, they have their suspicions, and they're trying to figure out figure it out by December of that year, December 2012.
• 19:39
  Mark and other leadership at Glaxo China believe they have uncovered their whistleblower.
• 19:45
  It's a woman named Vivian Shi, a Chinese woman working there who was their head of government affairs, but they didn't have any direct evidence of her being the whistleblower.
• 19:57
  So they began looking into her and looking at.
• 20:00
  Her travel expenses and what they ended up doing was accusing her of expense fraud and getting rid of her.
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  And it it's it's so ironic because that was one of the exact types of fraud that they were knowingly engaging in through these third-party travel agencies.
• 20:16
  So she left the company in late 2012.
• 20:21
  Some of the articles I've read say that she was fired, others don't say it that explicitly, but she was suspected to be the whistleblower.
• 20:30
  So does the saga end here?
• 20:32
  They caught the whistleblower, the whistleblower is gone.
• 20:35
  No, not even close.
• 20:37
  The next month, January 2013, 15 people in leadership at Glaxo and at the government regulators received an email from an email address, GSK whistleblower at gmail.com.
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  And the subject was notification of bribery by GSK in China.
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  Sometimes this stuff, it just like this reads like a movie script.
• 21:02
  Like you couldn't make this up.
• 21:03
  Like the real world is so much more bizarre and weird and crazy than fiction is.
• 21:09
  So this email really brought the receipts, extensive granular evidence of widespread corruption and illegal activity at Galaxo China.
• 21:20
  So now the entire corporation, all the executives are really alarmed.
• 21:25
  They start some internal investigations, and more people are fired.
• 21:30
  Things are really heating up.
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  A few months pass as this is going on, and in this very charge environment, another whistleblower email is sent out, and one of the recipients is the CEO, the top man at the company itself back in the UK.
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  And this email includes a video attachment of Glaxo China's top man, Mark Riley, in his Shanghai apartment having sex with his Chinese girlfriend.
• 21:58
  Now keep in mind the CEO works down the hall from Mark's wife at Glaxo UK.
• 22:06
  She is also a Glaxo employee.
• 22:09
  So all right.
• 22:14
  But can you even imagine this do you guys, I don't know.
• 22:20
  If you have any quick stories you want to share where you can protect the privacy of people, I or would you just generally agree that sometimes there's workplace drama in corporate settings?
• 22:32
  Forget corporate, it's in healthcare.
• 22:35
  It is so bad.
• 22:36
  My husband one time asked me, my kids got into Gray's Anatomy, which I'm not sure that was the best choice to let them watch.
• 22:42
  But my kid or my husband asked me, like, is it really like that?
• 22:46
  And I was like, Well, some people are like that, and yeah, I'm not gonna share any stories, but let's just say it gets really interesting.
• 22:55
  It's really it's really one of those things where um no profession is immune from it, but obviously in healthcare, and the farther you go up in the chain and different things like that, there is usually more scandal and drama and the likelihood of some interesting things to unfold.
• 23:12
  So this doesn't surprise me and kind of fits into the the general tone of just kind of how things work in the system.
• 23:22
  Yeah, and you know, I guess uh full confession, I have to admit, I where all good romances start.
• 23:28
  I met my wife on the psych unit.
• 23:30
  So she not as a patient, she she was she was not a patient, so just clarify that.
• 23:38
  Really quick, Amy was legitimately not a patient.
• 23:42
  Amy, we love you.
• 23:46
  Okay, so back to Shanghai 2012.
• 23:50
  This uh this sex video isn't just a problem for Mark and Jill's marriage.
• 23:55
  This is a huge problem for the corporation for Glaxo.
• 23:58
  This has now become an embarrassing international scandal, and for their part, the CCP smells blood in the water.
• 24:08
  So, how does Glaxo defend itself?
• 24:11
  Well, by smearing its critics, of course, even though they know the allegations against them are 100% true and accurate.
• 24:19
  So, as I say in football, the best defense is a good offense, and that's exactly how pharma boardrooms operate as well.
• 24:28
  This is another part of the playbook that we have seen before.
• 24:31
  Pharma attacks their critics even though they know those critics are correct.
• 24:35
  Do either of you guys have examples of where we've seen this before.
• 24:40
  Nicole, how about you?
• 24:43
  Repeat the last part of that.
• 24:45
  I'm sorry.
• 24:46
  We we see this playbook from Pharma over and over where they attack their critics, even though they know their critics are correct.
• 24:54
  So can you think of any examples where we've seen this in the past?
• 24:58
  Well, I can speak to it and in legislation, right?
• 25:01
  I mean, any time we have people that we hold to a higher power that isn't necessarily following through with things that they say, and then their critics or people in the community are seeing this and calling it out to try to hold them accountable, then people come out of the woodwork to try to defame and you know say that you're not being credible to deflect from their accountability.
• 25:19
  So that's just one example, but there are many.
• 25:22
  I may actually just a moment ago, you mentioned this Vivian she.
• 25:28
  I mean, they uh they accused her of the same thing they they were doing with the expense report issues, and we've seen it in these other scandals.
• 25:36
  I mean, they just turn around and point fingers.
• 25:38
  Well, if I blame them and say they're doing this bad thing, if they come back at me and say I'm doing the same thing, it's just retaliation, air quotes.
• 25:49
  And so this is so common.
• 25:51
  It's super common.
• 25:52
  The VIOX scandal comes to mind because Merck went after these cardiologists who were noticing that VIOX was killing their patients, even though Merck knew that those cardiologists were correct.
• 26:03
  They got them demoted, they got them fired all over the globe.
• 26:06
  You know, they did this all through COVID.
• 26:08
  We can each probably name uh a good dozen doctors that we saw this happen to during COVID, like Pierre Corey and Peter McCullough and Mary Tally Bowden.
• 26:17
  Mary Tally Bowden, by the way, just had the Texas medical board find against her.
• 26:22
  So yeah, they try and make examples out of people, and it's just it's part of a playbook.
• 26:28
  So whenever you see a doctor being strongly criticized by these establishment powers, don't take the criticisms at face value.
• 26:37
  There's usually more to the story, but back to Shanghai.
• 26:41
  So it the year is now 2013.
• 26:44
  We've had these emails come out, we've seen the hidden camera sex video, and all of this is rocking Glaxo China.
• 26:52
  So they launch an internal investigation.
• 26:55
  Again, this is something that had been brewing for a while, and it's the meme of the press conference where the people in law enforcement are saying we've investigated ourselves and found no evidence of wrongdoing.
• 27:08
  So that's what Glaxo's doing here.
• 27:10
  And you just it's indefensible because they're literally firing people at the same time that they're saying, Well, we did nothing wrong, and we found no evidence of wrongdoing.
• 27:19
  Meanwhile, like this person's fired, that person's fired.
• 27:22
  They're they're just in full-blown damage control here.
• 27:26
  And one of the things that Galaxo UK does is they hire this husband-wife private detective team.
• 27:33
  Their names are Peter Humphrey, who's a British citizen, and he has an American wife who is from China.
• 27:40
  Her name is Yu Yin Shen.
• 27:43
  So these two are private investigators, they're about 60 years old at the time, and Glaxo lies to them, and they tell them that these whistleblower bribery allegations are false.
• 27:57
  They are not true, and they don't tell them about the email, they don't tell them about the sex video, they just tell them to go to China and uncover dirt on this dirty former employee, Vivian Xi.
• 28:11
  So this couple goes to China goes to China to investigate somebody that it turns out many people have speculated, and I I think every single sign points in this direction that Vivian Xi was an asset of the Chinese communist party.
• 28:28
  Her father was allegedly an important figure in the CCP in there in Shanghai.
• 28:34
  And though this has never really been publicly acknowledged, it just fits the situation perfectly.
• 28:40
  And we'll actually come back to that uh in a surprising twist at the end of this.
• 28:45
  But she was hired to be Glaxo's head of government affairs because of her connections with the government.
• 28:51
  So, regardless of whether or not she was the whistleblower, Glaxo seemingly misunderstood the difference between the UK, the US, and China in terms of like how much are you going to step on the toes of the government?
• 29:09
  Because it it's just it is a different game in China.
• 29:12
  Uh, general solid life advice for anyone listening to the nurses' report is don't travel to China to spy on CCP assets.
• 29:23
  You know, you you can run a foul of US federal regulators, and what happens to you for doing that is a sad joke.
• 29:31
  A lot of the time, these pharma ghouls they just get to laugh their way all the way to the bank when they run afoul of US regulators.
• 29:38
  But in China the rules are different.
• 29:40
  So uh what the private investigators found was that the allegations against their clients, Glaxo, seemed to be legitimate.
• 29:49
  And while they were looking for dirt on Vivian, they ended up finding all this dirt on Galaxo China, and they started to report that up the chain of command.
• 30:00
  At Glaxo, and they were warned by Mark Riley himself, the man who had the sex video taken of him with his Chinese girlfriend.
• 30:10
  He warned that Vivian Xi was going to be coming after them.
• 30:14
  And he was proven correct.
• 30:16
  Uh, the warning proved apt because they were quickly themselves arrested by the CCP and they were thrown in prison.
• 30:24
  They were pawns in this incredibly high stakes situation, and they got burned immediately.
• 30:31
  So their assets were frozen.
• 30:34
  They left behind a young son who had just turned 18 years old.
• 30:38
  They lost their business, and they both had medical conditions that went untreated while they were in prison, including kidney disease and cancer.
• 30:48
  And the CCP did not stop there to find out what happens next.
• 30:53
  Tune in after this break.
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• 35:27
  I'm your host, Nurse David Wayne, joined by nurses Nicole and Ashley, and we are talking about a scandal over in Glaxo, China, where we have executives at this pharmaceutical company who aren't just engaging in bribery and fraud at an incredible scale, spending a hundred million dollars a year to bribe people, but they're also caught in a bit of a sex scandal where one of their executives had a secret tape of him with his girlfriend sent not just to his boss but to his wife, who was a fellow executive at Glaxo.
• 36:05
  So to pick up on the story, there are two private investigators who were hired by Glaxo to dig up dirt on their whistleblower.
• 36:15
  And what they didn't seem to include in their calculation was that the Chinese Communist Party does not like foreign countries investigating their assets.
• 36:25
  And so these two private investigators got thrown in prison right away.
• 36:31
  They ended up suffering for years in Chinese prison.
• 36:36
  Glaxo China, meanwhile, got hammered by the CCP.
• 36:40
  There were raids on their offices, there were arrests, there were more firings, there were lawsuits, and Glaxo was ultimately fined half a billion dollars, which is the largest such fine ever delivered in China.
• 36:53
  In 2014, the same Glaxo that said we did nothing wrong, fired over a hundred employees for engaging in illegal bribery activities.
• 37:02
  After the Chinese conviction, more lawsuits popped up in the UK and in the US.
• 37:07
  Glaxo took L's across the globe.
• 37:09
  But of course, like all pharma scandals, a majority of the information revealed in court has never been made public.
• 37:15
  So this story is kind of pieced together from the scraps that have made it out into the sunlight.
• 37:20
  It's so interesting, too.
• 37:22
  And this is another theme that we see.
• 37:24
  So Glaxo is based out of the UK.
• 37:27
  The UK started their own fraud investigation into this whole scandal with Glaxo in China.
• 37:34
  They spent millions of dollars of taxpayer money investigating this scandal.
• 37:39
  Glaxo was found guilty in China.
• 37:42
  They were found guilty in the US.
• 37:44
  In the UK, their home country, where they have incredible, incredible political power, they ended up dropping it.
• 37:51
  They spent millions of dollars on it over the course of years and years and years.
• 37:56
  And even though Glaxo even sometimes pled guilty to various aspects of the crimes they committed.
• 38:02
  For some reason, you know, the Department of Fraud over in the UK couldn't bring themselves to bring charges.
• 38:09
  So I feel like this is another this is another pattern that we see with these pharma scandals over and over is that the real justice it just doesn't happen.
• 38:20
  Ashley.
• 38:32
  You know, we not only the tax dollars are investigating this fraud.
• 38:38
  I mean, this is in the UK, right?
• 38:40
  So all of these tax dollars are going towards looking into the corruption and everything like that.
• 38:47
  Plus the tax subsidies that are often given, at least here in the US, but I assume that they're doing the same thing.
• 38:53
  Healthcare is socialized over there, and so they're spending, you know, millions of dollars, presumably on pharmaceuticals.
• 39:02
  And so, you know, not to sound pessimistic, like I don't know if you're rubbing off on me, Dave, or what, but I feel like we are just rats in you know, the maze of big pharma's money-making scheme, and it's absolutely crazy because you think of the UK and you think of the United States and you think of these freer places, you know.
• 39:28
  The UK maybe not so much as far as free speech, but we are fed this illusion of freedom when we, you know, we're working and we're doing all these things, and all of our money is being paid into these companies that do nothing but harm us.
• 39:44
  Absolutely crazy.
• 39:48
  Yeah, Nicole Futs.
• 39:51
  I mean, I just back what she says.
• 39:52
  I mean, we just had our government approve billions of dollars to go back to Israel and Ukraine and you.
• 40:00
  You know, it's just it's really unfortunate that we always seem to um be the ones, the the citizens, if you will, to take the brunt of all the things that happen, right?
• 40:10
  Where these elites continue to get away with it and constantly be able to cause mayhem and damage and just basically steal and lie and be deceitful and nothing ever happens, and then doubling down and knowing that these things are hurting people and getting away with that.
• 40:29
  That you know, even if when you feel like you have a case to bring forward and you have a legitimate concern that you have these corporations paying, you know, better lawyers and you know, just things to basically bury it so that it doesn't come out like it's supposed to, and it's just a no-win situation all around.
• 40:46
  And why I think so many people um don't challenge it because it's almost like what's the point?
• 40:52
  Is it gonna make a difference?
• 40:53
  You know, and they continue to feel to be emboldened because they they are there's protections, they're not like us, they always get away with it.
• 41:03
  Well, and I think too, Dave at the beginning of the episode talked about how they're using these expense funds and these travel companies, and right now he might be home, but Indiana's treasurer is over on what I presume to be an all-expense trip, paid trip to Israel as part of a diplomacy program.
• 41:28
  And I know of other people who are out there doing the same thing in conjunction with the Israeli Ministry of Tourism, and I'm sitting here going.
• 41:38
  Are our tax dollars going to fund these trips?
• 41:43
  In addition to the fact that it's in order to influence our public officials, my my state treasurer is over in Israel.
• 41:55
  Why?
• 41:56
  Is it to pull more money?
• 41:59
  Is that what it is?
• 42:00
  And it's the same thing with these pharma scandals.
• 42:02
  I mean, absolutely insane.
• 42:07
  Yeah, and you guys set me up for a good segue because we talk about how there are never any consequences for these predatory behaviors.
• 42:15
  And one of the things I like to do with these pharma scandals is play the game of where are they now?
• 42:21
  Because a lot of the time what we find out is that the people who engage in the most nefarious predatory behavior, they get promotions and they go on to be, you know, leadership positions.
• 42:35
  They're still out there.
• 42:36
  They'll go to leadership positions at the FDA or the CDC, and then they'll bounce back out to private industry, and they just had these thriving careers.
• 42:44
  So we're going to play that game with this Glaxo China scandal.
• 42:49
  And first up is Mark Riley.
• 42:51
  So Mark Riley was the head of Glaxo China.
• 42:54
  He was the one who had the sex tape taken of him in his apartment with his Chinese girlfriend.
• 43:01
  Well, uh, you won't be too surprised that he and Jill are no longer together, they are divorced, and Mark was close to retirement already.
• 43:11
  So Mark has just kind of retired and slipped out of the public eye.
• 43:17
  We always complain about how nobody goes to prison.
• 43:20
  He was actually held in China for a little while.
• 43:24
  Um residential surveillance, which is very secretive.
• 43:31
  I wouldn't want to participate in that myself, but we basically know that he was under some sort of 24-7 monitoring.
• 43:41
  Maybe it was worse than regular prison.
• 43:44
  Maybe it was him being put up in a hotel.
• 43:47
  We don't really know.
• 43:48
  But he was detained in China for about 14 months before being let out and deported.
• 43:55
  For her part, Vivian Shi.
• 43:57
  This is the alleged whistleblower.
• 43:59
  This is a person that everybody believes is the whistleblower.
• 44:02
  This is a person that everybody believes is the CCP asset.
• 44:08
  She was re-hired by Glaxo China.
• 44:12
  And one of the lessons of this entire case is that these big multinational corporations, they have our Western governments figured out, but China is playing a different game by different rules.
• 44:24
  It is speculated that rehiring her was not something that Glaxo China was given a choice about.
• 44:32
  Out of everyone involved in this scandal, we always complain about how nobody goes to prison.
• 44:38
  The two people who went to prison in China were the innocent investigators hired by Glaxo UK.
• 44:47
  This is Peter Humphrey and Yu Yin Sheng.
• 44:50
  They endured a Chinese show trial, which was meant to send a message about messing with the CCP.
• 44:57
  You do not go to China and dig up dirt on members of the CCP.
• 45:02
  So these two had a really rough time.
• 45:08
  They were in Chinese prison for about a couple years.
• 45:12
  And in the time sense, since Peter Humphrey has gotten out, he's actually become an advocate for human rights violations in China.
• 45:20
  And he's talked about what it was like to be in prison in China.
• 45:25
  This guy was in a small cell with 12 other people.
• 45:31
  It had bars and a wooden floor.
• 45:34
  It didn't have a toilet.
• 45:36
  It had a hole in the corner.
• 45:38
  It didn't have any furniture at all.
• 45:41
  They were fed uh just absolute gruel.
• 45:46
  He lost all sorts of weight in there, and he was in there for about two years.
• 45:51
  That was his that was his life.
• 45:53
  They weren't allowed legal representation, not real legal representation.
• 45:58
  So you know, for as big a as the problems are with our justice system, and they are enormous.
• 46:06
  I think um, you know, if if you're following these pharma scandals, the problems with our justice system are glaringly apparent, but it could always be worse.
• 46:17
  It could definitely be a lot better, but it could be worse.
• 46:21
  When they got out, they ended up suing Glaxo for what we mentioned earlier.
• 46:26
  Glaxo didn't tell them that all these whistleblower allegations were in fact true, and Glaxo also did not tell them that they were investigating somebody in the CCP, allegedly.
• 46:39
  And they ended up winning, actually, uh, which is good.
• 46:44
  One repercussion of this scandal, though, with these two investigators being arrested, is that foreign investigators fled China.
• 46:54
  So this was at a time when Xi Jinping was implementing new privacy laws in China, which makes it illegal for anyone outside the CCP to obtain protected information on people in China.
• 47:08
  And if you're wondering what protected information is, it is whatever the people who are locking you up decide that it is.
• 47:15
  So the situation that evolved in the time since these two were arrested, is that uh China has not exactly become an international beacon of integrity.
• 47:26
  Psychopathic corporations and researchers have recognized that they can do whatever they want in China, they can break laws so long as they are useful to the Chinese Communist Party.
• 47:39
  They can do it without the scrutiny of regulators and investigators, other than the Chinese communist party.
• 47:46
  They can do things like, hey, let's take this bat coronavirus and attach a spike protein to it with a humanized Furin cleavage site.
• 47:57
  Allegedly.
• 47:58
  So welcome to China, Ralph Berrick, Peter Dazak, Bill Gates, Anthony Fauci, and hello COVID pandemic.
• 48:07
  When I started research on this scandal, I had no inkling at all that this was going to be tied to the COVID pandemic in any way.
• 48:16
  But here we are.
• 48:17
  So at the end of the private investigators' lawsuit, a spokesman for Glaxo said the matter has been resolved to the satisfaction of all parties.
• 48:27
  Ashley, are you satisfied?
• 48:31
  This is absolutely insane.
• 48:35
  I did not expect this episode to come to this conclusion.
• 48:39
  Of course.
• 48:41
  Of course I'm not.
• 48:42
  It's not going to be about COVID at all.
• 48:45
  And and this is why China is their largest growing market.
• 48:49
  And I would venture to say that we will continue to see large numbers of pharmaceutical industry.
• 48:57
  And I think since two 2012, 2014, that probably has already occurred because as long as you're in useful idiot for the C CP.
• 49:06
  And that should really make us question every single drug and vaccine that comes out of China.
• 49:17
  Like I'm sorry, but facts.
• 49:22
  Yeah.
• 49:22
  Nicole, what are your what are your thoughts?
• 49:25
  I mean, again, to echo off, Ashley, it's just it's all intentional.
• 49:29
  I mean, this is kind of like by by design.
• 49:31
  They're really in charge of majority of how everything runs in the world, especially when it comes to technology and medication and just kind of um all the things that are coming out of China.
• 49:43
  And so it doesn't surprise me one bit.
• 49:44
  I mean, we really shouldn't be shocked, right?
• 49:46
  It's just one of those things that just kind of adds the salt and the wounds that this is these are the outcomes that we continue to see, and they're the largest growing market.
• 49:54
  They're continuing to be that way.
• 49:56
  And um, it almost just seems like it's a or a never
• 50:00
  Ending cycle.
• 50:01
  This is just what they're they're doing.
• 50:03
  I mean, this is just part of how they they work in that country.
• 50:07
  Yeah, this is just the MO.
• 50:09
  This is just uh this is just what they do.
• 50:12
  You you can uh I would have to, and this is completely speculation on my part too, but all these doctors who were connected with high class prostitutes and things like that, I would say the odds are greater than zero that there aren't sex tapes of them as well, because it wasn't just doctors, it was people in high leadership positions at some of these healthcare corporations.
• 50:41
  So we learn more and more and more about how the world works, you know, just look at what's going on or not going on with Epstein back home here in the US, and so much of these power games are based off of lies and sex and extortion and secret videos, and it's just uh do you guys do you guys ever get kind of blackpilled when you learn about stuff like this about like just how power operates in the world because you know thinking back to how I viewed the world just five years ago, much less 10, 20 years ago, it's changed so much.
• 51:22
  So is the term black pill an actual thing?
• 51:25
  Like I've never heard of that.
• 51:26
  Is that is that new?
• 51:27
  Yeah, that's a real thing.
• 51:28
  Yeah, it's like you've become incredibly pessimistic about everything.
• 51:32
  You've been blackpilled about something.
• 51:34
  Yeah.
• 51:35
  You know, it's so funny because I've been struggling the last couple months and just with all the things, right?
• 51:44
  It's very difficult to keep a positive attitude, but this is not a new story.
• 51:52
  We've we've seen the same stuff before.
• 51:55
  And we did a recent episode where I talked a little bit about Triumph of the Heart, the movie.
• 52:02
  And I think that, you know, listening to that episode and hearing a little bit about that will be good.
• 52:08
  And I think that's why I don't get black pilled, is because of the fact that I know the power of the human spirit.
• 52:15
  And maybe that's one of my jobs here is to remind people of the power of the human spirit and our ability to overcome.
• 52:24
  Man, one of the ways we overcome is just awareness.
• 52:27
  So that's why we have episodes like this.
• 52:30
  That's why we, you know, are not getting our envelopes of uh red envelopes of cash, but uh we're we're doing this for free because we think it's important and we're passionate about it.
• 52:41
  Nurse Nicole, what are your thoughts?
• 52:44
  Yeah, I mean, that's one of the things that we get questions on, or I get questions on all the time is you know, why do you do what you do?
• 52:49
  Why do you keep doing it?
• 52:50
  You know, it's very dark out there, there's a lot of negativity, people are telling us that we're crazy, that we're not going to make any change, you know, that they we have ulterior motives for what we're doing.
• 53:01
  And like you just said, you know, we I think you know, between the both of you, we're here because there's a mission, right?
• 53:06
  There's a calling that we're answering, and none of any of this that we do is paid.
• 53:12
  We do all of this on volunteer, but that's how much it matters to us to be able to work together and present information and different topics in a way that you may not know and be able to call things out in a professional manner so that you can be informed.
• 53:26
  And so I think it's really interesting because since the pandemic, we have more people that are blackpilled.
• 53:32
  They're they feel hopeless.
• 53:33
  They don't feel like there's light at the end of the tunnel, and a lot of them are checking out in various ways because they just don't feel like their impact matters.
• 53:42
  So I think it's really important that we continue to do what we do and spread light.
• 53:46
  There can be days where it can be very difficult to do that because we're human as well.
• 53:50
  But I think because of that higher power and the fact that we know where we stand and we we know where we stand in our convictions that I think it makes it a little bit easier to then to come on and be able to share ourselves with others and present information because we know that's how we can help, right?
• 54:06
  We can control that.
• 54:07
  We can help by putting stuff out there that can hopefully resonate with others to make a difference.
• 54:12
  So, you know, I get it.
• 54:13
  I think it's it can be very difficult, but we're very blessed, and we're able to um shed light in the darkness.
• 54:21
  I will take a moment to ask for a little bit of feedback from the audience because a lot of the pharma scandals that I end up choosing to talk about on the nurses report are done because there's a really large body count, you know.
• 54:39
  Like when we covered Paxel, that probably resulted in hundreds, if not thousands of youth suicides, viax, tens of thousands of deaths, and those numbers really jump out at people.
• 54:50
  You know, when we cover antidepressants, this is a medication that tens of millions of Americans are are taking.
• 54:59
  This one was completely different, and it wasn't even set here in America.
• 55:05
  It was a British company operating out of China, but just the things that unfolded over the course of this scandal had so much overlap.
• 55:14
  And even though, you know, there were no murders, there was no pile of bodies like we usually talk about, there was an enormous pile of cash and Rolexes and prostitutes and that sort of thing.
• 55:27
  And so I I just really felt uh compelled to cover this one.
• 55:31
  So I would look for feedback from the audience of hey, what kind of stories do you like to hear from us?
• 55:37
  Do you want to hear more like this?
• 55:40
  Do you want to hear some more that are salacious like this?
• 55:44
  Because there are a lot of them out there, or would you rather we stick with the high body count type stories?
• 55:51
  So track us down on socials, except for me because I'm not on social media anymore, but track down uh nurse Nicole or Nurse Ashley.
• 55:58
  Actually, do you either of you remember the new email account?
• 56:01
  Nurses at America Outloud.news.
• 56:05
  And I just say that it, you know, if you guys want to write to us and let us know, you can always address which nurse you would like to speak to or pass the message along.
• 56:12
  And we just had someone, one of our listeners, her name is Angie, she's amazing.
• 56:16
  Um, she follows me and and the rest of the crew, and she wrote a really sweet letter um wishing us a merry Christmas and thanking us for what we do.
• 56:23
  So I just think it's a really cool way to connect with us.
• 56:25
  And so it's nurses at America Outloud.news.
• 56:28
  And uh we also have America Outloud.news uh web webpage that you can go to and see the podcast as well and write to us there.
• 56:39
  Yeah, we're trying to do more with video.
• 56:42
  So I'm excited about that aspect of it.
• 56:45
  Uh let's see.
• 56:47
  One last thing I'll say is that we are in the season of drunken work holiday parties.
• 56:54
  So keep your pants on, people, because you are being watched by Santa.
• 56:59
  You're being watched by your co-workers, you're being watched by Big Brother.
• 57:02
  Maybe you're being watched by the Chinese Communist Party.
• 57:05
  You're definitely being watched by Jesus.
• 57:08
  So be good.
• 57:09
  And until next time, this is Ben Nurses Nicole, David, and Ashley for the Nurses Report.
• 57:14
  It's time of this war.
• 57:22
  It's time of this since.