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The Lie of One: Alec Baldwin Rust Charges & Sniper Wolf Controversy · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  ASMR not like your gin filled Donald Duck mug that chat GT insist that you
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  have oh we have to read that or put that up at some point that was I had so
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  listeners we'll do a thing with it but I had I chat GPT to write a script and uh it's very
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  funny yeah and yeah the fake tongue I think might need some people got some
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  just just the two of us this week mhm but we still have lots to talk about
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  yeah yeah plenty to talk about back TR followup news go
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  on Alex Bal yes we thought it was over for him not
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  not his career or anything but the investigation yeah we thought his
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  troubles were over because they came out and went like look we've done it we're
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  dropping all charges he still got the civil case but that was always going to
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  happen but St but then they've come back now and he's now facing new manslaughter
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  charges yeah so they said if you shot her that's manslaughter and he said well
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  he didn't pull the trigger and they went oh you got us there and then they looked
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  in go well if he didn't pull the trigger I guess we have to walk away from it so
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  they dropped all the charges they've now done a further investigation and they've
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  found well actually he probably did have to pull the trigger we've discovered so
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  the man slaughter charges are back on cuz I remember at the time he said he
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  never pulled the trigger and there were all these YouTube channels going up with
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  this type of gun you have to pull the trigger but then they came out and went
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  no we've tested it and a modified gun and they this whole big thing and then
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  he was Vindicated and all this kind of stuff they Dro charges no apparently
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  they did more testing apparently they've now come back and they've said oh
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  actually you do have to pull the trigger so sort of weird cuz they did do an
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  investigation back then and went no it it can fire without and then they did
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  more so was it that's just because if that's the case he's got a pretty good
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  case to get out of it I I can't I guess I don't I do I sort of understand why
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  that's the the sticking point but on the other hand I don't because he was making
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  a movie where he he was pulling the trigger on that gun
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  presumably you know multip multiple times a day like he was pulling the
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  trigger on that gun cuz he was acting in a movie where he was shooting that gun
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  at people with presumably blanks or something in it and he didn't know there
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  was a or multiple real bullets I guess we don't know he didn't know there were
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  real bullets anywhere on set so I just don't
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  quite understand I mean I do and I don't because I mean that's the action right
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  if he pulled the trigger that means he performed the action that caused the
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  thing to happen but then again like I just don't quite know why that's
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  the deciding fact he didn't yeah he didn't know the gun he had no reason to
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  think the gun wasn't safe he was told the gun was safe and he's done he's
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  presumably been pulling the I don't know it's just seems weird to me that that's
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  the sticking point is it because he was so adamant that he didn't that he caused
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  a problem for himself I don't know it just seems yeah whatever I mean I do get it I
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  do get it like if you step back you go okay if you pulled the trigger he
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  performed the action fine if that's how it works fine but that just seems a bit
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  odd in this case cuz that doesn't seem like that's the problematic piece of
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  this like he was supposed to pull the trigger yeah like they were blocking the
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  scene later he was when they finished blocking the scene and they film it he
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  was going to St in that same spot and pull the trigger yes exactly right yeah
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  yeah at some point he was going to be pulling the trigger on that gun like
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  yeah look I think if if this does go to
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  trial which I I can't see it happen I don't think a jury would be able to go
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  guilty I'd be surprised but then again I've been surprised by things like this
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  so I mean and and and also to be clear we don't have all the EV evidence so oh
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  maybe there's more to this and I mean coup news articles I'm not saying like
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  some people suggested that he was out to murder this woman for some reason like
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  that's [ __ ] insane no um cuz you know what he could have
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  done if he really didn't like it he could have just fired her very easily plenty of less
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  Troublesome ways to have just gotten away from her yeah
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  yes yeah I don't know this one's weird to
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  me and and well like you said he was a producer so the whole production in some
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  sense is his responsibility like so maybe so and I can see that being an
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  argument but again they're making this about the pulling the trigger thing
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  which pulling the trigger yeah which I don't yeah anyway don't get it yeah cuz that's
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  what I thought when when I first saw that they were doing charges again I
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  thought it was as his role as producer and I thought that makes sense okay
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  they're going he's responsible for the safety of the set it doesn't matter if
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  he didn't did or didn't know the bullets were in there he should have known
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  because he was a producer that's what the Civil thing is civil case is about
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  and unless they're going to maybe they're going to tie that to the fact
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  that he pulled the trigger like he should have known that there were
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  bullets in there and he pulled the trigger okay fine I guess that makes
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  sense maybe that maybe that's what it is it's just this focus on that fact on
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  that one single piece of information that weirds me out and it's been so long
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  like they cuz they originally dropped it back in April yeah and now we're in
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  October and they're going now we're going to do it again yeah yeah that's a weird
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  one wouldn't suck to be him like you think yes I've gotten away with it and
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  then octob up we're charging you again sure he wasn't thinking that I hope he
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  wasn't thinking that if he was thinking that then maybe they should be pressing
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  charges from all the photos I saw like just after even him coming out in that
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  interview he was distraught after he was not thinking clearly I know the law
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  doesn't work this way for good reason but this does seem like one case where
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  it's like does he need to be punished further for this like it seems like like
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  the the people who are actually responsible they are their charges are
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  still there and they're going through yeah I can see
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  like yeah I I don't know you maybe it's is this producer angle of it that he is
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  responsible in some way in which case that makes sense cuz you don't want to
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  you want to make sure this doesn't happen again he's got to you got to be
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  by the book if if he did something wrong he should be punished for it it just seems like
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  the but even then I I couldn't really see you'd have to show like criminal
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  negligence like you'd have to know that the person you were hiring was terrible
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  at their job and you'd have to actually know that
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  yeah I I guess maybe they've some very good evidence of something that we just
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  don't know about guess cuz at the moment it just seems messy and weird and I just
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  I feel I mean I feel bad for everybody involved not just him obviously because
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  it's not not about him to be honest it's about what her and her
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  family in my head this happened last year this happened in 21 yeah it was a
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  while ago now yeah and they're going to finish the movie aren't they didn't they
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  say they heard cuz they I guess they thought it was over and then now it's come back
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  yeah yeah I wouldn't want to do that I wouldn't want to go back that'd be [ __ ]
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  off unless you he was like oh you know in her memory or whatever I guess maybe
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  that might that that'll definitely be the case that would make it okay but
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  look I think that the person who I think is real is the the Amorous it's Hannah
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  Hanah well gz Reed I think yeah it seems
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  that seems like it would be the case I'm not an expert so I don't know but yes
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  she's supposed to be in charge of making sure there aren't [ __ ] real bullets
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  Guns live rounds hand it gun over this is a safe gun yes and failed to do that
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  clearly yes she's played not guilty but I'm G like how can you play not guilty
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  not guilty I I handed a gun with live ammo yeah how can you plead not guilty
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  it wasn't like you were supposed to make sure there wasn't a bullet in the gun
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  and there was how can you plead from what we heard like there's been times
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  where like I think with Brandon Lee I don't think that was a real bullet that
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  was a blank that got stuck and then honest mistake but not the point live
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  round which is very very different still honest mistake I guess but like there
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  shouldn't have been live rounds yeah the Brandon Lee thing they put a uh when my
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  understanding of it is that when you put the the fake rounds in the the dummy uh
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  what do you call them blanks from the front of the revolver they don't look
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  real so what they do they put like fake empty cartridges in for scenes where
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  you're just filming the front of the gun and they shot that and either some piece
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  of it got left in there or broke off or either way there was a piece of
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  fake prop bullet left in there and then a blank got put
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  in forming a real bullet it's like the two pieces formed basically a projectile
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  that shot him in the [ __ ] heart this
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  yes just what a good aim yeah yeah I
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  mean devastating I think that that guy I think that guy committed suicide
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  actually the guy who did that I don't know if it's because of that explicitly
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  but he he definitely had mental uh issues afterwards yeah but yeah this one
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  was a little bit different because this was like it was
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  just someone had put a real bullet in there and it got left in there yeah the
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  thing I also love is at the time do you remember who were coming out well if if
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  they should have known like when he picked up the gun he should have known
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  that it felt the difference in weight well that's just silly I think that that
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  that is silly I do think maybe you can make an argument that if you're going to
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  be handling the gun you should be more well trained than he perhaps is I have
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  no idea how much gun training Alec Baldwin has had or most actors get like
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  I look at someone like like I only know this because I've seen the behind the
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  scenes stuffs like I know ke Reed does tons of gun training right and he
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  probably does have the ability to go oh that shouldn't be in there I have no
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  idea what what's normal for actors and I guess maybe they should be able to do
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  that I don't know well also it's not supposed to be their job there there's a
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  [ __ ] person on set who's paid to do that so they don't have to well hey
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  maybe we're at a time where we don't need to use well that's what everyone was saying
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  that's what The Rock was saying he doesn't use real guns apparently
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  and he's like no one's ever said anything you didn't even know until I
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  just told you he's apparently never used a real gun yeah like it's not like it
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  was like 50 years ago where if you didn't use run it looked completely fake
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  this is you we've got special effects we use special effects to put a sign on a
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  door we can make special effects to we can make it look like there's [ __ ]
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  Wizards he fly yeah yeah on broomsticks no less broomsticks can't fly no matter
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  how many bullets you in them actually don't go back and watch the first um har
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  Harry Potter in the SW of stone it looks terrible right well still special
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  effects there they got better that's why they didn't use guns Luke because they
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  just knew they couldn't pull it off so JK ring was like no it's not going to
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  work WS we'll use WS no one knows what they look like they can turn
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  walkie-talkies into guns that's true and vice versa did they change that
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  back Spielberg uh well he changed the no he changed the the guns into
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  walkie-talkies in ET and then he said he oh that's right the other way around
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  yeah and then he said he regretted it but I don't know if he ever yeah changed
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  it back cuz I think it might have been too late at that point cuz it's already
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  done yeah I forgot it was yeah gun to walkie-talkie yeah cuz they thought it
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  was a bit bit off to be pointing guns at kids but that's a [ __ ] ' 80s movie
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  that's what we did in the 80s we [ __ ] pointed guns at kids kids guns and
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  [ __ ] murderous clowns and all sorts of horrible [ __ ] happened to kids in the
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  80s cuz there were no rules yeah but a lot of a lot of the movies that we
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  watched in the 80s were not really for us but we grew up with them not the
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  point not the point Robocop Robocop than it up [ __ ] traumatized for us
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  no aliens traumatized me a little bit
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  yeah uh yeah alien did the first one I
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  saw that alien yeah um pet cemetery that got me when I was young Cemetery [ __ ]
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  slices the guy's ailles oh God all this stuff we should
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  not have been watching yeah yeah you're right oh Return of the Living
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  Dead the oh oh that that's just awesome yeah that's funny not n of the Living
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  Dead return living yeah but it's gory and horrible and you in a fun way but
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  it's not for kids in a fun way I think that yeah it's not for
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  kids but that's what we grew up watching y yep now it's Halloween local video
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  store I got this anything I have a bone to pick with Disney right it's Halloween
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  almost right so we're trying to do we're doing Halloween stuff we did pumpkin
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  carving and stuff like that lra's been getting into some Halloween stuff she's
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  old enough to kind of want to participate M and then on Disney plus
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  they've got the Halloween collection which has got Hocus Pocus and a few
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  other things and it includes The Nightmare Before Christmas which is a
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  Christmas movie what's that doing in there like
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  it is a Christmas movie it is a Christmas movie but full stop because
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  they're filling in it's a Christmas movie yeah that's probably also going to
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  be included in the Christmas collection as well I'm sure it is I'm sure and it
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  cross over it should be yeah I understand why but I I saw it on there
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  and I was like that's not a Halloween movie it's a Christmas movie you suckers
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  Halloween's already finished when that movie takes place that's the
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  point but um lra loves the
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  songs that I guess presumably we must have put them on at some point uh I'm
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  not sure when she first heard it but she calls you know that that this is
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  Halloween the first song in yes for Christmas she calls that the Pumpkin Man
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  song and she was asking for the Pumpkin Man song to be put on and uh
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  particularly when we're driv around Scotland we put that on and the album
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  would continue and she's now picked some songs she likes some she doesn't she
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  likes uh the Pumpkin Man song she likes uh the
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  get she likes what this what's this or what's this what's this she calls it uh
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  she likes the San Claus one which is kidnapped Santa Claus which is not
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  really suitable for kids but um and uh
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  and she says she likes the Oogie Boogie one but then she never does when you put
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  it on but she asks for it you put on she go no I don't like this one but anyway
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  so she likes the song I think she just likes saying Oogie Boogie yeah yeah
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  maybe and well she knows Oogie Boogie too in in when okay so she has asked
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  to see the pumpkin man so we put the put the movie on and almost immediately
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  every time she kind of goes quiet and she goes I don't like it and we go okay
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  all right we turn it it's too creepy but she keeps asking and then over time
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  she's like progressively like she like sits there and she like holds her arm
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  and then she kind of watches it but and she's gone from watching only watching
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  the songs that she knows she likes and then watching them being a bit until
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  like she's just comfortably watching them and then extending past it a bit
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  and then after like 5 minutes she goes I don't like this and you go okay turn it
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  off so I don't know she's she's soldiery on she keeps coming back but my point is
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  that much like us in the 80s I don't know if I'm accidentally traumatizing
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  her by forcing her to watch This creepy stop motion
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  animated not not really kid changed it you need to say you need to say stop
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  saying that you're forcing her to watch it yeah good point she does ask
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  and then she immediately goes back to watching um Mickey Mouse Clubhouse which
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  she just calls Clubhouse mhm and I sent you that snap
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  because we know how much he love Donald Duck she also apparently now loves
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  Donald Duck and you can get Donald Duck's the best character you can get
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  Mickey Mouse tubs of yogurt for kids so I got some of those she calls them she
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  calls it Clubhouse yogurt and um which I think is very
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  funny um and she will only eat the Donald Duck ones excellent yeah but there going to
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  be a fight when I come over there yeah well cuz you're going to want Clubhouse
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  yogurt Y and I only want the Donald Duck ones that's right look it's you're doing
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  better because she's asking to watch it than what a fourth grade than what a
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  class did in Florida I think this week M I didn't post this in because I didn't
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  think it was going to come up but there was a a Post article in there um a math
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  teacher showed um we need to poo Blood
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  and Honey to his fourth grade class oh now do you know what Blood and Honey is
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  I do was that did he mean to do that um so i' I've SE a few things about
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  it so evidently the class asked for it and I think what the class asked for is
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  can we watch Winnie the Pooh oh God and then he put this on and they even asked
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  him hey can you turn this off and he went no and they watched the first half
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  an hour which evidently even in the first half an hour is pretty
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  gory he didn't stop the movie even though there were kids saying hey stop
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  the movie we don't want to watch this the mom said telling the outlet that
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  some kids were seriously affected yeah it's a [ __ ] gory horror movie like
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  ever like ever one of the scenes at the beginning of the movie like a woman gets
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  her breasts exposed wi just sort of stares at them before tossing her into a
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  wood chipper oh God so I think you're doing a lot better
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  than this guy our Administration promptly addressed this issue directly
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  with the teacher and has taken appropriate action to ensure the safety
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  and wellbeing of students they tossed him into a wood
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  chipper like yeah one of the things he said like yeah the children picked it
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  it's like a notop my fault they picked it so like how is this even an option
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  for them to pick if you're saying they picked this movie that is
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  bizarre I have not seen this movie I want to the academy of innovative
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  education a k to2 Charter School am so it's some some fancy
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  like I'm guessing this means it's some artsy fartsy
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  school oh oh one of those ones where the students pick what they want to learn
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  type of stuff and and then I like this the the school said uh the teacher said
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  oh they picked the movie and the school uh did say to oh no no a parent said to
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  CBS News it's not for them to decide what they want to watch it's up to the
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  professor to look at the content and decide if it's appropriate that's
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  wild yeah [ __ ] hell so I don't I even think this is even something I don't
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  think even we would have watched as kids I got see now I got to worry is this is
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  this one of those not true things that happens not true things that happens
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  that's a weird sentence what I mean is you know one of those things that
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  happens when you look on Facebook and then you look into it and it didn't really
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  happen no no I've seen um news reports with them interviewing parents outside
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  the school and yeah
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  right SE a few YouTube channels following the story yeah this isn't one of those
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  Facebook clicks it's a Jesus all right
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  well all right yeah I guess I'll have you seen it no no no no no but I know
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  what it is no I think I yeah I think I was about to say I think I've set sail
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  and uh spotted it on the horizon if you know what I mean but I've not watched
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  it yeah I haven't I Haven I've done the same and still haven't sat down to watch
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  it cuz yeah this was like cuz the wasn't the copyright ended for it yeah yeah
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  when you Po and these were guys were just were're going to be the first ones
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  to do this and they just rushed out this piece of crap
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  yes well well speaking of Halloween uh we've
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  got some some followup related to the strike the the actor strike in
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  particular in this case so negotiations were apparently happening I think we
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  might have talked about this last week and then the studios walked away so now
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  the actors are still on strike which is not good news MH um no for those of us
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  who would like to see them AC in things
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  uh and now sag Afra the um Screen Actor
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  Guild and whatever that second acronym means uh have said they're not allowed
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  actors are not allowed to dress up as movie characters for
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  Halloween because that would be a breach of the
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  strike which is
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  interesting g a bit far you'd think but
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  yeah movie and TV Centric costumes yeah not allow
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  yeah but could could someone go as say look I'm going as I'm trying to think of
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  something going is um Cinderella but I'm going from the book not the movie I
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  don't know I don't know the problem is I don't know that you'd want
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  to do that and have to face the face you know like like Drew barimore with her
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  [ __ ] TV show she got you know she got berated so I don't know it's a little
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  weird and the funny thing not funny thing about it I mean this is all very
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  sad and silly but uh I understand the reason for it they're trying to make a
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  point um but you're allowed to dress up as long as it's a
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  approved thing like for example some indie films have been given
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  exemptions from the strike like I think Ferrari um for some reason the farari
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  moveie that just came out was given an exemption I don't know why I I didn't
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  look into it I just know that that's a thing so you could dress up as
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  Ferrari John John Ferrari you could dress up as
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  um but yeah so anyway you can still do UHA and IA what I don't know what these
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  movies are maybe that's why cu the movies are so terrible we need we need
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  anything to give them the M the memo that was sent out says choose costumes
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  inspired by generalized characters and figures ghost zombie spider Etc so one
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  of those three so don't bother about going to
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  celebrity Halloween parties this year they're going to be pretty boring oh
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  yeah cuz it says Marvel Superheroes despite having comic book roots are
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  owned by Disney so those characters would be against strike rules so your
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  Cinderella example would probably not be allowed yep why did I go with a comic book that
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  would have been easier than thinking of about oh you know you go with you choose
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  what you love don't you could you go as Donald Duck
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  no I would you could argue I'm not Donald Duck I just didn't wear any pants
• 24:50
  today no I'll just say I'm not you just go I'm not I'm not Iron Man I'm Metal
• 24:55
  Man like when you're in like New York sure I'm the Iron Man From the Black
• 25:01
  Sabbath song
• 25:06
  yeah uh do we have any other oh we got
• 25:10
  strike related news um or like potentially Loosely strike related news
• 25:16
  so you know how Netflix um they're doing their password Crackdown so you can't
• 25:20
  share your account anymore and all that kind of stuff well apparently they have
• 25:25
  gained uh eight or nine million nearly 9
• 25:30
  million new customers as a result of doing which is like [ __ ] all right I
• 25:35
  guess that worked um and now they're putting their prices
• 25:40
  up so okay that's interesting and part of the reasoning for that's a bit of a
• 25:45
  middle finger isn't it so I don't know whether this is speculation or if this
• 25:49
  is um they've actually said that this is part of the reason so they have had to
• 25:53
  negotiate new contracts with the Riders as part of the strike recently
• 25:58
  and they're preemptively going to have to pay the actors more when when they do
• 26:04
  eventually resolve that so so they're preparing for that well also if they
• 26:09
  also may even help with the actor's negotiation when they [ __ ] that's true
• 26:15
  extra money that's may be on the table yeah we've just added X [ __ ] billion
• 26:20
  dollars to the pool yeah so I just thought at first I thought that was a cheeky and then I
• 26:26
  mean I guess I kind of understand I mean the price of stuff
• 26:31
  paid more if people are getting paid more the money needs to come from
• 26:34
  somewhere that's just how things work so it's going up uh I don't know what it's
• 26:40
  like what it is in Australia the basic plan here was like 10 bucks it's going
• 26:45
  to be 12 and then the medium one was oh
• 26:50
  the medium one's staying the same at 1549 a month it's okay and then the
• 26:55
  premium one which gives you 4K and four screens that you can watch
• 27:00
  stuff on goes from 20 bucks to 23
• 27:05
  bucks yeah so I think I think with the the big bump they got with people I
• 27:10
  think a lot of them went with the the lower one which is the one that screens
• 27:13
  with ads I remember seeing an article about that I can't watch ads anymore and I just what
• 27:19
  why not to watch ads yeah I have gotten so used to not seeing them that that I have like a
• 27:26
  physical like negative reaction when an ad comes on and I get angry so I'm like
• 27:33
  and I fix it with my credit card yes like I for me I don't think I'm paying
• 27:39
  for the content I think I'm paying not to watch ads that's what I really feel
• 27:42
  feel I'm paying for yeah absolutely yeah if I know this sounds stupid if I have
• 27:47
  to watch ads I'll I will not watch that or if I can pay slightly more not to see
• 27:53
  the ads I'll do it but like if if like for example if you give me two options
• 27:58
  one is a ad supported tier and one is a
• 28:03
  prohibitively expensive no ad tier I will walk
• 28:07
  away I'm not interested because the ads
• 28:10
  are not an option no like I pay for YouTube premium so I don't have to watch
• 28:16
  ads so do I yeah cuz having that Skip and be watching something in the middle
• 28:22
  stops no I don't want that and I've tried I was like maybe I don't need to
• 28:25
  worry about this no I I can't I can't do it I I canceled it and then like you
• 28:30
  know the first day of it not being there and I tried to watch a tutorial on how
• 28:33
  to do something and it came with an ad and I was like no [ __ ] this I can't do
• 28:36
  it I don't know how people can watch YouTube with ads I guess if you
• 28:42
  um I mean it's probably like that uh you know
• 28:48
  what lifestyle creep or whatever you call it like I'm so used to not seeing
• 28:51
  them now because we TV had ads all the time we were kids like and it didn't
• 28:55
  never bothered me you could fast forward them through through if you taped it but
• 28:58
  you didn't didn't worry me but like I've just been lucky enough to not have them
• 29:04
  for so long that now now that I guess the problem is that that
• 29:09
  like we've been paying for these services with our ads and now they're
• 29:13
  like we're not making enough money so we're going to have to give the people
• 29:16
  who are paying ads as well and then now now it just feels like no [ __ ]
• 29:23
  you I think that's the problem there's only one time a year I actually really
• 29:28
  watch ads and that's during the NRL Grand Final oh yeah cuz for rugby league
• 29:32
  in austral I can pay an for an app that has no ads and I can watch the game yeah
• 29:37
  there's ads at half time but during the game it's start to finish fine but they
• 29:42
  don't have the rights to the Grand Final so every single game on it except for
• 29:47
  the Grand Final where I have to go watch free to AAR and there are ads and it is
• 29:51
  so frustrating that's interesting do they pause sometimes the ads will make
• 29:56
  you miss part of the game ask that do they pause the game for the
• 30:00
  ads so what it is that they'll like try and fit ads when there's a breaking play
• 30:05
  like if someone scores a goal why they're kicking for the conversion
• 30:07
  they'll quickly break the ad but sometimes if that's quick wait while
• 30:11
  they're kicking yes don't you want to see that but why they're setting up to
• 30:16
  kick but sometimes they don't come back quickly sometimes yeah so you do miss
• 30:23
  out on part of the game and it's quite annoying and that's why I'm just take my money
• 30:28
  yeah I pay for AFL no ads no thanks and I pay for um actually specifically I pay
• 30:35
  for I'm a I support the swans because I found out you can do that you can just
• 30:38
  pay for the AFL to watch it or if you become like a swans team supporter you
• 30:45
  get the streaming thing for free and also you get merch and stuff like that
• 30:48
  so I was like oh [ __ ] I should have been doing that um yeah and the Formula One I
• 30:53
  pay for no ads no than you although arguably there's a lot of controversy
• 30:58
  lately about how the whoever's directing
• 31:00
  the F1 TV seems to [ __ ] fail to leave the camera on the interesting things
• 31:07
  that are happening and then like like someone will go to overtake somebody and
• 31:10
  then they'll just cut to like something else some car just been like multiple
• 31:15
  examples of this where people are like the [ __ ] are you
• 31:18
  doing so the the one time something interesting is really happening in this
• 31:22
  race and you cut away yeah and then they said oh you know you'll get a replay of
• 31:26
  it and it's like no I don't want to see a replay want to see I want to see him
• 31:29
  overtake him [ __ ] live like I paid you for like yeah I want to see overtake
• 31:33
  live or I want to see in accident like I want to see all this live yeah yeah it's
• 31:39
  funny yeah people are really mad about it actually I could see why especially
• 31:44
  since you're paying for it and you think
• 31:47
  they'd be good at it like
• 31:52
  yeah right where are we moving to what have we got well actually speaking of
• 31:56
  Netflix I've been watching something on Netflix I won't say too much about it
• 31:59
  cuz I haven't actually finished it yet uh I'm I think I'm almost at the end
• 32:03
  I've been watching The Fall of the House of user which is um Mike Flanigan's new
• 32:09
  show the guy did midnight mass and yep Haunting of BL Manor and Haunting of
• 32:15
  Hill House and all that stuff I will say I I I didn't realize that was by him I
• 32:20
  thought it was about aser the the singer it's it's not about
• 32:25
  him I've just been so skip past so it's
• 32:30
  not about him no no no it's definitely not about him no no it's a horror series
• 32:37
  and it's very good with some some weak moments I think I'm not sure it's it's
• 32:43
  not my favorite of his shows but it's very good very cool I'm really enjoying it so
• 32:49
  recommend it have he's going somewhere else is after this one I think another
• 32:54
  training servic to take Mike away that's right because remember they yeah they
• 32:58
  canceled that Midnight Society or whatever it was there not midnight MK
• 33:02
  there's another one the yeah yeah I know what you mean yeah
• 33:05
  I think you're right I think maybe Amazon yeah well if they don't want want
• 33:10
  it we'll offer you to come and make stuff for us yeah I don't think it's
• 33:15
  that they didn't want him I think maybe they he got more money because his stuff
• 33:18
  is so [ __ ] successful and it's good like like I said I mean this is not I
• 33:23
  mean it's [ __ ] excellent I'm not going to lie the the only problem that
• 33:26
  forha is that I've seen the other ones that he he's done and and I kind of
• 33:31
  maybe liked one one of them more than this like other than that it's [ __ ]
• 33:35
  excellent like but you're still getting more great content from him which is the
• 33:38
  main thing like yes it's really good and it's got some like the the cast in it is
• 33:43
  [ __ ] insane like it's Mark Hamill's in it by the way if that's all you need
• 33:48
  to know he plays this [ __ ] ruthless lawyer and he is incredible in it like
• 33:54
  you've never I you've never seen Mark Hill be in like this where he just talks
• 33:59
  like this and he's just a he's just a [ __ ] [ __ ] who talks like this he's
• 34:03
  got glasses and a beard and he's like wow I'm going to have to say Mar
• 34:09
  will be ruthless cuz he's so gentle no no he's excellent in
• 34:14
  this okay I'm mean you sold me it's all I needed good good yeah check it out
• 34:20
  real good and what do we got from
• 34:25
  there well I know you've been playing some [ __ ] video games cuz you I have sh
• 34:30
  that lots of [ __ ] video games lots of them okay so there was a game that came
• 34:35
  out last week called cook off chapter 1 which is just okay preparing food and
• 34:41
  selling it preparing for chapter two I don't know what chapter 2 is but
• 34:46
  i' you'll find out at I thought it was going to be a very quick game like I
• 34:49
  thought it's going to be like a couple hours FY [ __ ] so like some of these
• 34:52
  other cooking games have been I've been playing this game for like 3 days and
• 34:57
  you make food just you just prepare food you sell it you try it's about time
• 35:01
  management so you got to cook the food make sure it doesn't burn then serve the
• 35:06
  customer okay and there's another game like this that came out this burger time or
• 35:12
  something I played that one till I could finish that one because that was a bit
• 35:16
  faster last night I just started playing same thing it's just cooking
• 35:21
  food so you put the burgers on the grill is Burger time that old classic arcade
• 35:25
  game like I can see how you could gamify it but like I mean the way you're
• 35:30
  describing it doesn't sound very fun like is is it
• 35:34
  fun I I actually don't mind them they're they're sort of um Burger Chef Tycoon is
• 35:40
  what it was called sorry Burger Chef Tycoon just they're just I don't know
• 35:45
  they're relaxing games you don't have to think sure you can watch something while
• 35:50
  playing it and then last night I just started playing pool
• 35:52
  Blitz what's pool Blitz on Burgers shift oh my God this looks
• 35:58
  irritating it it is frustrating FG shift very frustrating I
• 36:04
  actually have uninstalled it and I'm not getting two achievements in the game wow
• 36:09
  that is a one was to get all the other achievements in the game that's a har
• 36:14
  review you're leaving achievement achievement I couldn't get was get three
• 36:19
  stars in every level which I just couldn't do so I just uninstalled it and
• 36:24
  then started playing P Blitz which is a free game that came out on Xbox I think
• 36:28
  it's an online thing that's been around for a while BL I'm somehow good at it or
• 36:33
  just people who are playing against suck or I'm playing Bots I don't this looks
• 36:37
  all right it's just pool yeah it's actually sort of fun cuz
• 36:42
  you know when you play pool games in the past have been quite slow sure it's
• 36:47
  always like when it's passing over you got to wait for loading and this is very
• 36:50
  fast you can finish a game in like five minutes so it's very good for just one
• 36:55
  more game yeah this looks all right and I'm currently first in the beginners
• 36:59
  tournament oo or the beginners League or something I used to play there was a
• 37:05
  pool game on the Xbox 360 I used to play I forget what it was
• 37:09
  called maybe it was pool blit I probably play Oh I yeah one of the first ones I
• 37:15
  think was one of the first Xbox 360 games to come out yeah yeah yep and it
• 37:20
  had like very good physics and we like oh this is good
• 37:24
  yeah yep it was on Xbox Live Gold go live yeah I think it was I think it was
• 37:29
  a freebie right maybe that's what it was yeah I think it was the here's the
• 37:33
  marketplace to start buying games
• 37:37
  I'm I apologize I'm getting over the end of a cold I apologize
• 37:42
  listeners I found out I get hay fever now oh no I've never had hay fever I've
• 37:48
  always sort of made fun of people who get hay fevers it be spring
• 37:53
  there yeah yeah okay then I got hay fever just before
• 37:58
  went to Melbourne I was fine came back and I went yep it's ha
• 38:03
  fever that sucks I don't like it can you take
• 38:07
  uh I don't know what do you call that's the one that's the word yeah can you
• 38:12
  take those yes yeah cool yes I just get an itchy throat it's nothing major like
• 38:18
  I'm not getting the runny nose runny eyes I just get an itchy throat I don't like
• 38:23
  it I actually panicked cuz when I had it I thought I was getting Co just before
• 38:27
  four packs oh God yeah I worry about that every time now like I I've had
• 38:30
  genuinely assist a cold and you know I looked it up cuz I did a test and it was negative
• 38:35
  and I was like oh I don't know I'm so paranoid um yeah but I looked online
• 38:39
  apparently if you are sneezing that means it's probably not Co because
• 38:43
  apparently that's not a symptom of it so I was like oh good yeah I'm [ __ ]
• 38:46
  sneezing everywhere Yeah well yeah no my problem was just my throat was itching
• 38:50
  and I was getting a cough with a with a bit of flame and I'm going this is not
• 38:54
  good tested and I was fine and then I came back and then I found out other
• 38:58
  people have been off with Co so I'm sort of like oh but like no no Co even when
• 39:04
  it's I know when I got I got bad even oh co yeah Co [ __ ] me up but even when
• 39:09
  like I know it's just a cold but I feel like when I go out now if I'm sniffling
• 39:14
  and like coughing I have to be like it's not it's not Co it's it's just it's just
• 39:18
  a normal cold it's like traditional cold not not a dangerous one and if you wear
• 39:22
  a mask people are going to look at you and go why you wearing a mask you don't
• 39:25
  need to do that especially here like why are you infringing on your own rights
• 39:31
  okay I sort of got the best response for that oh sorry I had Co I've got Co at
• 39:37
  the moment I didn't really think I want to get you sick but if you're fine with
• 39:40
  it but if you want to make out let's make out yeah I've never understood why people
• 39:47
  get upset like when Once the Mandate stopped with people still wear wear it
• 39:51
  some people I'm joking I've seen I mean I see people occasionally wearing them
• 39:54
  and especially on planes I've seen it like I've never seen anybody hassle
• 39:58
  anybody which good cuz like [ __ ] gives a [ __ ] whatever is that the whole
• 40:02
  point of this country is that people can do what they want like isn't that isn't
• 40:06
  that what you people want is just to have the freedom to do whatever you want
• 40:08
  if someone wants to wear a mask then don't wear a [ __ ] mask mask yeah and
• 40:11
  now they're doing it of their own free will what's the problem
• 40:15
  absolutely I've only ever seen YouTube videos of I'm skeptical of all this
• 40:20
  stuff now did I talk about this on the show I got worried before we went to
• 40:25
  Scotland because I saw a YouTube video YouTube recommended it to me I guess
• 40:29
  because I was looking up stuff about flying with a 2-year-old because I was
• 40:32
  trying to figure out what's the best thing we you know what can we do to make
• 40:35
  LC comfortable and y y y yeah it was a video worried about also just having
• 40:41
  annoying other people and having those people look down upon you exactly I
• 40:45
  don't want any of that I just want everybody to have a pleasant experience
• 40:48
  so y well as pleasant as you can on a 6- hour flight but yeah I found this video
• 40:54
  or or YouTube Sorry presented me with this video in the the algorithm them gifted me a
• 40:59
  video of uh uh family being told that they had
• 41:05
  to uh give up their 2-year-old seat or they would be removed from the plane and
• 41:12
  it was this guy having an argument with the flight attendants and this kind of
• 41:15
  stuff and the flight attendants is saying you know this a felony you know
• 41:18
  you will be arrested and B this whole big thing and I was just like oh my God
• 41:21
  what like that's so awful and I start I'm get worried and I'm like why why
• 41:25
  can't the kid have a seat cuz we booked her a seat and all this kind of stuff
• 41:28
  and that so and then they didn't book her a seat so I looked into it and now
• 41:34
  I'm skeptical of all of these things what happened is the family was two
• 41:40
  parents and they have three kids one
• 41:44
  teenager and two younger kids like a four or 5-year-old and a 2-year-old they
• 41:50
  booked two-year-old to sit on someone's lap they booked four
• 41:54
  seats the 2-year-old was supposed to sit on somebody's lap the teenager had to
• 41:59
  fly home early for some reason took a flight a couple days before and they
• 42:03
  just thought well we'll just put the 2-year-old in that person's seat but
• 42:07
  that's not how that's not how it works because did you buy that teenager a new
• 42:12
  seat and you still had that booking tickets are not transferable and the
• 42:16
  person whose name is on the ticket that because he didn't check in they assigned
• 42:21
  the seat to a standby person and that's what the the that whole ele of the
• 42:27
  argument was missing from the YouTube video so yes yes the family was in the
• 42:31
  wrong and I was like thank God a lot of this stuff you do see you
• 42:38
  need to you need to get it a lot they got compensated they got they got big
• 42:42
  payout from [ __ ] Delta and all this kind of stuff and I was like you cuz I
• 42:45
  read this article about I was like you sons of [ __ ]
• 42:49
  like that's not on you guys [ __ ] up it's not like it's not like a bus where
• 42:54
  you're like I've got three tickets who wants one and then also like I don't
• 42:58
  know what they were arguing about like you were still they just said the
• 43:01
  2-year-old has got to sit in your lap like you [ __ ] said they were going to
• 43:06
  yeah and he was like I will not and then they were like well you're now
• 43:11
  committing a felony by refusing to vacate someone else's seat and yeah
• 43:17
  anyway so it annoys me that they got a payout from it annoyed me too and and
• 43:21
  again it makes me skeptical now whenever I see anything like that whenever I
• 43:25
  see uh you know some YouTube video of somebody who's been wronged by a company
• 43:31
  or whatever I'm always like what actually happened he happened like I know the customer's
• 43:37
  always right but the customer's not always right sometimes the customer's just a [ __ ]
• 43:42
  with well I don't know do you remember the pink Source lady I do not okay so
• 43:48
  there was this woman who was I think YouTube or Tik Tok influencer and she
• 43:52
  was making this pink sauce what and I just sauce that was
• 43:56
  pink and then she decided to start selling it okay and had like eggs and
• 44:03
  honey and all these stuff she was just shipping it out and someone questioned
• 44:08
  like do you have FDA approval she goes why would I have that it's not
• 44:13
  medicine and this whole thing she went on talk shows cuz people called her out
• 44:17
  but then she got a deal with a company to sell it for her and was being sold in
• 44:21
  Walmart and stuff okay but they were presumably getting approvals for it or
• 44:26
  no they were yeah they were they were now making it and producing it and she
• 44:30
  was just going hey you sold it to us you just still do the marketing and we'll
• 44:33
  make it and distribute it they gave her all this money but then she went then
• 44:37
  she yeah before we get into the money they gave she started going online going
• 44:41
  they've ripped me off they're not giving me anything I'm due all of this stuff
• 44:45
  and all these people were believing her and she goes look I've just been ripped
• 44:48
  off because I'm I'm a woman and theyum I don't know what I'm doing and then the
• 44:54
  company came out and went no here's everything we've given you like part of
• 44:58
  the deal was you refund all the people that you would sold the source to to
• 45:03
  begin with oh yeah a sort of and then you didn't have enough money to cat for
• 45:07
  that so we gave you more Jesus and then here a up some payment we gave you and
• 45:14
  then here's extra money that you we've given you over the time you asked us for
• 45:18
  $10,000 for a birthday party that you might show on Tik
• 45:25
  Tok and influen then she and so yeah so yeah they basically came out with
• 45:30
  receipts and went like this is all the money we have given you stop saying we
• 45:34
  haven't given you anything and then her response was but yeah for for 6 months I
• 45:38
  had to pay to stay in hotels and all this stuff like she got well over $100,000
• 45:44
  h i find spent it so when I was in Scotland there were a lot of
• 45:50
  places that are internet famous right
• 45:54
  like it was the same when we were in um France in that a few years ago
• 46:00
  everywhere that you go these days there's somewhere that's like an
• 46:03
  Instagram location or whatever it is and there's always [ __ ] there who basic you
• 46:07
  know people who pretend that they live in the house or whatever like it's some
• 46:11
  beautiful idyllic house in like say the Scottish or French Countryside or
• 46:15
  whatever like that with like Lavender Fields or whatever and then there's some
• 46:18
  idiot Instagram person cutting like ruining the lavender crops and causing
• 46:24
  all like trespassing and walking out the front gate or even just like standing at
• 46:28
  like on the front doorstep pretending they live in the house or whatever it's
• 46:31
  like it's like [ __ ] off and yeah I have this like I guess somewhat ironic
• 46:35
  annoyance in that I want to take photos of these places too but I'm I'm willing
• 46:39
  to do it without being a [ __ ] but I can't because you're all in the [ __ ]
• 46:43
  way so like if everyone just stood back at a respectful distance we could all
• 46:48
  get this nice shots yes I can't take a photo of that without you in it because
• 46:52
  you're [ __ ] annoying so mhm and then and then the only way to do it is to like
• 46:58
  which I'm not going to do is to like get in the line of other idiots and then
• 47:01
  pretend I live there or whatever cuz then they're behind so annoying but this is just
• 47:07
  something yeah I think as something that sort of came out after world came out
• 47:11
  lock out I think people just became more entitled yeah yeah I've seen lots of
• 47:15
  really feels like articles about I saw there was some U guy who went a hotel in
• 47:19
  like the Philippines or something like that who posted an article on uh
• 47:23
  submitted an article some big website I can't remember what it was but it
• 47:26
  basically said if you're a if you're an Instagram influencer whatever like don't
• 47:30
  bother emailing me asking me for free rooms right we've had enough of that
• 47:35
  like you posting a photo of you in the bath does not bring people to my hotel
• 47:40
  and you're not getting a free room like you can [ __ ] pay like anyone
• 47:44
  else yeah that's that's something like I never want to do that with this podcast
• 47:48
  like it's not something no that's yeah we don't do any of that stuff like
• 47:53
  Shifty like it's grifty in a way it is if we see something we like we talk
• 47:59
  about it and we'll post about it and that's it we're not going to go hey you
• 48:03
  do cut us this deal we'll do this for you it's a yeah yeah it's why we don't
• 48:08
  take stuff for free because we don't want to that's why we're it's like I
• 48:12
  know you know people talk about I watched a video the other day about um
• 48:18
  I'll try and link to it in the show actually it was a good video I should
• 48:19
  support him was this YouTuber I can't remember his name and I can't remember
• 48:22
  the name of the video I will link to it because we should give credit but it was
• 48:26
  about why is everything a grift now why is everything a scam these days and it
• 48:30
  was about how you know Tim Ferris book The 4-Hour Work Week you familiar with
• 48:35
  that no okay I I've read it everybody I think a lot of tech people like me have
• 48:39
  read it the gist of it was it came out 2016 or something was a while ago
• 48:45
  might have been earlier than that even but his thing was convince your boss to
• 48:49
  let you work at home start Like A Drop Shipping business do do your work real
• 48:54
  like in half the time at home and then you've got half the day to do whatever
• 48:57
  the [ __ ] you want start a Drop Shipping Company or something like that and then
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  that will run itself and then you'll just start getting this money coming in
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  and eventually you can quit your other job and then you just do whatever the
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  [ __ ] you want and you only work four hours a week you know dealing with the
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  little things that come up in the it's not realistic like they probably was
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  once upon a time like there the only way to make make
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  money with a Drop Shipping business is to write a book or make a course on how
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  to start a Drop Shipping Company yeah like it was probably something di
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  doesn't and everybody knows now like yeah like when at the beginning at the
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  start there was a window yes something because no but now I could log on to a
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  site and set something up in 5 minutes I can go on Amazon order something and it
• 49:48
  can be here tomorrow why would I order off your shitty [ __ ] website and have
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  to wait two weeks for this people in you know the little company in China that
• 49:55
  you found this piece of garbage thing to ship it to me like no it doesn't yeah so
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  anyway it's just about how like how there this whole grift economy where
• 50:05
  it's like everyone's selling courses and everyone's selling like and it's all
• 50:09
  like get rich quick stuff but like but it doesn't seem like that's what it is
• 50:13
  because it's trying to teach you to help yourself except this stuff doesn't work
• 50:18
  so it doesn't the only people making money are the people selling you the
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  course on how to do the thing yes because like that 4 day work
• 50:27
  that's not even if you even if it was doable at the start you can't sell that
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  as something to do now because not if everyone's doing that then it doesn't
• 50:38
  work like it's there are people online like on on subreddits and stuff like
• 50:43
  that cuz like I said I looked I read this book I looked into it and I I
• 50:45
  dismissed it because I found when I looked into it I'm like this is it's not
• 50:51
  4 hours of work a week you have to work really [ __ ] hard if you want to do
• 50:55
  this because maybe times have changed but it's super competitive cuz
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  everybody's read this [ __ ] book like and everybody's trying to do this like
• 51:04
  you've got to it's basically like I'm better off just doing my normal job yeah
• 51:10
  just stick with doing the work that I actually know and I get paid for instead
• 51:13
  of the yeah let's get rich quickly I know there was a guy I used to work with
• 51:17
  he was quite young and he was like going to retire at 35 like he was going to and
• 51:22
  he was doing this Drop Shipping and doing this yes
• 51:27
  I mean look if you can good on you but I mean there they underplay how much luck
• 51:31
  is involved like it's well the thing I found with a few of these people who try
• 51:35
  and do this because I've met a few of the time is they're not
• 51:39
  actually they don't actually like
• 51:43
  work sure like they like to do a lot of things but
• 51:49
  like working is not one of them they like to have a lot of plates in the air
• 51:53
  and they're trying to look for the quick Buck but they're not actually sit down
• 51:56
  and do your job for eight hours a day I mean yeah I'd rather play balter's gate
• 52:00
  for eight hours than than do my job but actually that's not true I I I'm lucky
• 52:05
  in that I I like my job and I like I think that is probably a well as do I
• 52:11
  that is like a very fortunate thing I'd love to work four hours a week
• 52:17
  but that's not a thing well maybe you just need to read the book unless I buy
• 52:21
  the book yeah yeah yeah y That's where I've gone wrong the book is very
• 52:28
  outdated I would not recommend anybody buy that book now unless you're unless
• 52:32
  you're just kind of interested in it as a kind of artifact of its time I don't
• 52:38
  know that there's that much practical useful information in it anymore I think
• 52:42
  if you had bought it when it first came out maybe it would have been useful but
• 52:46
  actually I think if you brought it when it first came out it's probably still
• 52:48
  going to be a little bit then again maybe it is just a mindset maybe we're
• 52:52
  just not the right people to do that kind of thing like if you're a
• 52:55
  successful 4 hour working a week person and you're listening to this show right
• 52:59
  in let us know podcast are completely wrong yeah maybe I'm just maybe I'm I
• 53:04
  just suck at business could be it's possible it's very possible you
• 53:09
  suck at advertising I know that we do actually
• 53:15
  so we talk about just advertising ourselves if you're are successful for
• 53:20
  our work in a week person right in and tell us how to advertise this show cuz
• 53:24
  we don't know we just make it we make it for 12 years now don't know how to we
• 53:29
  still love making it just we just do
• 53:34
  it can we talk about Elon Musk if we must
• 53:41
  cuz is he just trying to run X into the
• 53:46
  ground I does it seem like it leveled out for a little bit I don't know that
• 53:50
  he's trying to it just he just keeps doing odd things
• 53:55
  and they've gotten in trouble did you because you Dan put something in the
• 53:59
  chat this week about how we're going to have to pay a dollar to post yeah I I
• 54:04
  didn't put that in here yes so that's well not not we right actually that I
• 54:10
  shouldn't say that so definitively they've got this pilot plan that they're
• 54:15
  going to do starting it in New Zealand and somewhere else where if you're a new
• 54:21
  account when you sign up unless you're just going to read things
• 54:26
  you have to pay a dollar a year to
• 54:30
  post and reply and all that
• 54:36
  I now I've heard that CU When I thought it was just I thought now I've heard
• 54:41
  that I'm not actually opposed to that I think if it work but the point of it is
• 54:47
  to get rid of to stop bots so yeah presumably they would want to roll that out
• 54:54
  to the existing uses cuz the existing users are the bots so yeah I don't know
• 55:00
  like there's nothing to say that that wouldn't then become a thing but I mean
• 55:03
  if and especially if it's successful they might do it as a thing look yeah
• 55:06
  I'm I'm actually in FA opposed to that now yeah CU
• 55:12
  Bots ruin a lot of things they screw information out there all right all
• 55:18
  right so how about this then um they've got a problem on there
• 55:22
  at the moment right they don't have the same trust and safety team they used to
• 55:26
  they got rid of a lot of people who used to take care of trying to make sure
• 55:30
  there wasn't too much [ __ ] on Twitter whether they did a good job or
• 55:34
  not they don't have the people to do it anymore and that's drawn the attention
• 55:37
  of you know countries and well Europe not a country but a continent where
• 55:41
  they're very concerned with privacy and stuff like that and and you know uh
• 55:48
  misinformation and so Europe has um said
• 55:53
  Twitter has a big misinformation issue and they're going to find them a bunch
• 55:56
  of money if they don't do something about it mhm and so Elon has
• 56:02
  decided it might be best just to block
• 56:05
  Europe from using Twitter what do you think of that
• 56:12
  idea I think he's I don't know if he would but I think he needs to be careful because
• 56:18
  that's basically blackmailing exting isn't it like oh I don't know about that the
• 56:25
  thing I I did think interesting right and I feel
• 56:30
  like I this this rang a bell with me I remember when I was in
• 56:35
  Australia no one used Twitter
• 56:39
  No but here I I very rarely go on there here people do right and I guess I just
• 56:45
  forgot like nobody in Australia uses Twitter like no one really like like
• 56:49
  everyday people don't use [ __ ] Twitter and then this says blocking
• 56:53
  Twitter in Europe would reduce usage by about 9% which I was like oh that's not
• 56:59
  a lot that's that's really act that's that's nothing
• 57:05
  that it's not nothing but it's not like oh okay that's actually not so bad it
• 57:10
  doesn't sound as crazy when you put it like that Europe is quite big but if
• 57:15
  it's like Australia where like I said nobody uses Twitter in Australia that
• 57:19
  not nobody that's obviously that's a ridiculous thing to say but like average
• 57:23
  people on the street if I go watch your Twitter account they go a [ __ ]
• 57:26
  Twitter account they're all on
• 57:30
  Facebook like but yeah 9% is a lot less than I thought would be yeah same I was
• 57:35
  thinking like 30 40 like cuz Europe's [ __ ] huge but apparently Europe isn't
• 57:41
  but they're not using Twitter so yeah so that's why you can say that but also I
• 57:47
  think it's not it's not Twitter anymore it's X don't run in and you don't tweet
• 57:51
  and you don't retweet you post post and
• 57:58
  repost and reply years of marketing gone down the
• 58:03
  drain but it's fine it's fine look but they could be saying like I think some
• 58:10
  just misinformation is coming from the Bots though and then also when you see a post
• 58:16
  and you got Bots that are are posting to upvote it or like it that moves up
• 58:22
  algorithm the thing yeah see the thing I think what used to have happen is either
• 58:27
  the trust and safety team or whatever you want to call it I forget that's what
• 58:30
  it's called they had people who would when something like that happened and
• 58:34
  people because this talks about um particular example
• 58:40
  where uh fake video footage of a Hass
• 58:46
  attack uh stuff like that um it used to be that they had people there who would
• 58:52
  make adjustments to stop that stuff from
• 58:56
  spreading and now because it's all every man for himself freedom of
• 59:03
  speech that stuff floats to the top because people don't know and they see
• 59:07
  it and they go oh [ __ ] and then they share it and they go oh check this out
• 59:10
  it's true and yeah and then it becomes like true on Twitter but in actual fact
• 59:16
  it's not true and then that's what Europe's saying like you need to do
• 59:19
  something about this but musk's whole thing is he's like people can do what they
• 59:24
  want yeah yeah yeah I guess this is a good example
• 59:31
  of why that doesn't work though
• 59:34
  because uh yeah fake images of Superstar oh soccer Superstar ronal holding the
• 59:40
  Palestinian flag uh a three-year-old video from the Syrian Civil War repurposed to make it
• 59:47
  look like it was taken this weekend stuff like it's just tons of stuff like
• 59:50
  that which and like I said this stuff used to happen but some like it would
• 59:54
  get called out and then Twitter now has these notes things where someone can put
• 59:58
  a note on and say oh that's actually not real but like I don't know who reads
• 1:00:04
  them is that enough clearly Europe thinks it's
• 1:00:08
  not Europe the person the band Europe
• 1:00:13
  yeah they've given Elon a final countdown and uh I have seen those notes
• 1:00:18
  being used on Twitter quite funny though the notes from The Final
• 1:00:22
  Countdown not The Final Countdown but the notes on Twitter those Community
• 1:00:25
  notes do you know um Sniper Wolf yes oh yeah we talk about that you seen the
• 1:00:32
  controversy with her lately you talk about that what a [ __ ] psycho she
• 1:00:36
  is so Styer wolf she is a content
• 1:00:41
  creator now who just reacts yes to there's been a lot of drama about this
• 1:00:47
  reaction stuff lately actually there's that other guy who's I can't I forget
• 1:00:50
  his name Jack films Jack films is the the Jack films and Sniper Wolf together
• 1:00:57
  having a thing but there's another guy who was having an argument with Ethan
• 1:01:00
  from h3h3 about his reaction stuff we'll talk about afterwards you know you talk
• 1:01:05
  about sniper off and then I'll seg so yeah so she's been and Jack films has
• 1:01:10
  been sort of making making fun of her basically going there's fair use but you
• 1:01:15
  she's saying she's not actually contributing or doing that side of it
• 1:01:19
  she's just a lot of and I've watched his sort of stuff when he does like a bingo
• 1:01:23
  show about her content and and yes it's true like sometimes she'll
• 1:01:28
  play something read the clip and that's it like that's not really reacting or
• 1:01:34
  there have been times where she'll cut the video off short and say the joke
• 1:01:38
  that that person made yeah and claim it as her own so it's not really
• 1:01:42
  transformative at all yeah the guy I was talking of the same things xqc does the
• 1:01:46
  same thing and there was a big thing because he did a there's a there's a
• 1:01:50
  really good video about the JFK assassination that was made by this this
• 1:01:53
  like YouTube channel it was really well researched and he did a reaction video
• 1:01:57
  where he sat there watched two minutes of it got up and left the room to make
• 1:02:03
  himself some food left the video playing came back at the end and then went wow
• 1:02:09
  that's interesting and that was his reaction video and see that that's not a
• 1:02:14
  reaction video that's and that's what and he got called out and he was like
• 1:02:17
  what's the problem like and I don't it genuinely seems like he's too stupid to
• 1:02:23
  understand what the problem is yeah yeah cuz that's not like fair use is like
• 1:02:28
  guess you can use but you meant to transform it it's not meant to be uh
• 1:02:31
  It's the reaction is not the video is not it really meant to be you reacting it's about
• 1:02:36
  you doing something adding discing yes exactly like if you pause it
• 1:02:43
  say oh that's interesting because this blah blah blah blah and you don't even
• 1:02:46
  have to be doing a whole lot you have to be doing something no something yeah not
• 1:02:51
  just playing it and laughing at it or playing it and then reading comments on it that's
• 1:02:57
  not but yeah then she decided to go to
• 1:03:01
  Doc him essentially yes go to his house post it go should we go have a talk like
• 1:03:07
  adults and then left it's all like an adult if you're really going to do that
• 1:03:11
  with knock on the door and yeah she her Instagram stories she guess she was
• 1:03:17
  doing a shoot somewhere near this guy's house and she said should I go to his
• 1:03:20
  house and she has like 6 million followers on Instagram and I guess they
• 1:03:24
  were like yeah do it and so she was posting photos of his house on Instagram
• 1:03:28
  which is it's scary like yes she's not going to do anything but she's been
• 1:03:35
  demonetized out there because of it now we don't know for how long no she should
• 1:03:40
  be [ __ ] banned it's like no it's not she should get an actual strike like
• 1:03:45
  it's not okay it's very like because but the problem is it shows like if someone
• 1:03:50
  was to do that to her oh it would be different to because the site and cuz
• 1:03:56
  he's a guy it gets taken slightly differently even though right his wife
• 1:04:00
  who is not a YouTuber was also at the house and I think they they may or may
• 1:04:04
  not have kids don't quote me on that I don't know but he definitely his wife
• 1:04:06
  was very disturbed about it like super she got nothing to do with YouTube She
• 1:04:12
  to five job yes and she's now now 6 million like and for context Sniper Wolf
• 1:04:18
  is an attractive girl with a [ __ ] following of people and there are people
• 1:04:25
  among that following who might do weird [ __ ] for her like it's not outside the
• 1:04:31
  realm of possibility that even just doing what she did would cause something
• 1:04:36
  bad to happen like look at what happens
• 1:04:38
  with Gavin and uh gav and oh I can't
• 1:04:44
  remember her name Megan Megan Megan yeah Megan Megan yeah
• 1:04:50
  Megan Megan yeah like yeah what happened with her like even though they weren't
• 1:04:53
  docs like they just had a fan whose entire purpose was to come and kill
• 1:04:58
  Gavin so they could beat together essentially yeah so what's say what's
• 1:05:02
  just I mean again it's hypothetical and hopefully something like this doesn't
• 1:05:05
  happen but what if some Sniper Wolf fan is like oh she's upset at this guy I'll
• 1:05:10
  take care of it for her and then we'll be together or whatever or not even that
• 1:05:14
  which unfort it's a scary thing that there are people out there who will have
• 1:05:18
  this happens watch people on the internet and they think that they're
• 1:05:24
  having that personal connection they're just watching them yep what do they call
• 1:05:28
  it uh parasocial relationship or whatever they call it yeah yeah it
• 1:05:33
  sounds right but yeah it's it's that that's a dangerous thing that she did
• 1:05:37
  and YouTube sort of did nothing about it for a long YouTube actually posted on
• 1:05:42
  YouTube went like would making a reaction would making a reaction video
• 1:05:47
  to a reaction video be meta they posted this on their Twitter and there were
• 1:05:52
  comments like like just did yeah and just this and all this stuff that were
• 1:05:58
  using Community notes basically call out to go hey Twitter what's you're allowed happen
• 1:06:04
  Jack films guy Jack films is that the name he literally has a channel now a
• 1:06:08
  separate Channel where he just reacts to sniper wols reaction videos it's just
• 1:06:13
  him sitting there watching them and it's like well no it's actually but he's
• 1:06:18
  actually reacting he's actually transforming it though so he turn it
• 1:06:21
  into a whole Community night they play Bingo they have a bingo card and I'll go
• 1:06:26
  through like heard reading the comments not giving credit to the users adding
• 1:06:31
  nothing like all of this and you can get Bingo pretty quickly you it but because
• 1:06:36
  I've been watching it and sort of flow on for the last few weeks but yeah they
• 1:06:39
  Twitter finally ex YouTube finally came out and went we're going to demonetize
• 1:06:44
  her and then hopefully people can start talking together they sort of blamed him
• 1:06:48
  a little bit in there how stupid because I don't know these guys make a ton of
• 1:06:53
  money off this [ __ ] too like like for example this guy that I was talking
• 1:06:56
  about I've already forgotten his name he um xqc yeah xqc he used to be
• 1:07:01
  a uh OverWatch player or something he yeah I used to see him pop up a lot more
• 1:07:07
  than he he's already wealthy right but he has a massive following and he makes
• 1:07:11
  more money when he like takes somebody else's content and just makes a video of
• 1:07:17
  himself watching it he'll make more money than that person did off the
• 1:07:20
  original video and he doesn't credit them and it's like doesn't like doesn't
• 1:07:25
  go he's a link to them or won't even say what's the name of the channel
• 1:07:29
  potentially sometimes sometimes he might like incidentally but but again I
• 1:07:33
  genuinely got the impression from seeing I've seen several people confront him
• 1:07:37
  about it and he just doesn't seem to get it so I don't even know that he's doing
• 1:07:42
  it to be a dick I think he's just like doesn't understand like it's so weird
• 1:07:49
  but then YouTube on the other side like they YouTube are making money out of
• 1:07:54
  this well that's that good point yeah like they're actually positive that's
• 1:08:00
  why I think like they demonetize Sniper Wolf yeah they didn't really say for how
• 1:08:05
  long but they're still making money off it I was going to say so demonetizing
• 1:08:09
  actually that's good for them because it means they just take all the money and
• 1:08:13
  she gets none of it yep yeah okay so and we don't know how long cuz I
• 1:08:19
  don't want to and this's the thing they're saying like you're being very
• 1:08:21
  nice to her because they are make she is making a lot of money so if you that's
• 1:08:25
  tough she's a cash C she might not y so
• 1:08:30
  it's all terrible yeah anyway that's our reaction to
• 1:08:36
  Sniper Wolf I feel like we added something I feel like we added something
• 1:08:42
  we we also didn't show anything that's true no but you're going to show some
• 1:08:47
  stuff in the Afterparty right you know what I mean oh I'll be showing lots of
• 1:08:51
  stuff in the Afterparty and I'll be reacting to it so yes if you want excuse
• 1:08:55
  me one second will you credit me though of course excellent I'm okay with this well
• 1:09:01
  while I'm reacting people will see the tattoo of your name that I have on
• 1:09:07
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• 1:09:13
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