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- 0:00And what was really exciting and what I think has led to the share price
- 0:05rising and the growth of the company was the growth that we've had at the
- 0:09Wolf deposit. And now we're talking about Moose. So you know, the
- 0:14best way for me to describe it carry is these are like a string of
- 0:18pearls, right, and we think each of these pearls has the potential to
- 0:23be like our Tourbriate Mind, which was a fifty million ounce sober deposit.
- 0:29Now there is also another result in there from chance which is in their pearl
- 0:36and was Leut's call it a two hundred gram hit over twenty three meters,
- 0:43Tutor gram per ton sober over twenty three meters. So you know, I
- 0:48think we've got at least five, if not six, maybe seven of these
- 0:53that have the potential to be fifty million ounce solver deposits. The Financial Survival
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- 1:11are listening to the Financial Survival Network. You are watching the Financial Survival Network.
- 1:17I'm Carrie. Let's your host. Hey, We've got an exciting update
- 1:21from from our good friends over at Dolly Varden Silver. The CEO of Sean
- 1:26kuh Kuhn is with us now and Sean. I just picked up on the
- 1:30latest drill results which were pretty extraordinary nine hundred and seventy eight grams per ton
- 1:38silver over five meters and thirty six seventy over zero point seven nine meters at
- 1:44the Moose Lamb vein, which I hadn't heard of before. Pretty exciting,
- 1:51all very exciting, Carrie, And just to sort of take a step back
- 1:53from the Moose hit, you know, this is a project that has a
- 2:00significant silver inventory. You know, we've got close to one hundred and fifty
- 2:06million ounces of silver equivalent in all categories, and what we're trying to demonstrate
- 2:12with the drilling program is that there is a significant room for expansion. So
- 2:21the Dolly Varden silver Mine, which was the richest silver mine in the British
- 2:24Empire, and then you move up about a kilometer and an alf and you've
- 2:29got the Turbrit Deposit, which was Canada's third largest silver mine. And what
- 2:35was really exciting and what I think has led to the share price rising and
- 2:39the growth of the company was the growth that we've had at the Wolf Deposit.
- 2:46And now we're talking about Moose. So you know the best way for
- 2:50me to describe it carry us these are like a string of pearls, right,
- 2:54and we think each of these pearls has the potential to be like our
- 3:00orbit mind, which was a fifty million ounce sober deposit. Now there is
- 3:06also another result in there from chance, which is in a pearl and let's
- 3:15call it a two hundred gram hit over twenty three meters two unitre gramd per
- 3:21ton sover over twenty three meters. So you know, I think we've got
- 3:25at least five, if not six, maybe seven of these that have the
- 3:30potential to be fifty million ounce soilver deposits. And you start doing the math
- 3:37on that, and then you factor in the million ounces of gold up at
- 3:40Homesteak that not to mention, also is accompanied by twenty million ounce as a
- 3:46solver. And we've drilled the target called Red Point, which could be the
- 3:52next big gold discovery. So what I'm really trying to showcase here is we've
- 3:57got a project that's in its infancy, and the proof in the putting is
- 4:00all of this exciting discovery and expansion and extension news drilling what's taking place right
- 4:09now to extend these fines. So We've got three rigs that are currently turning
- 4:15twenty four hours a day. We've completed twenty five drill holes. We've announced
- 4:20two. We have a total of twenty five thousand meters of drilling and you
- 4:28know, we might have completed you know, just under a third of that
- 4:31so far. And that's the plan meters. You know, we could always
- 4:34make a decision to significantly expand the drill program. Last year we drilled over
- 4:41fifty thousand meters. So we have the budget and the capability technically and logistically
- 4:47and with manpower and equipment to do so. So, you know, and
- 4:53really like, this is a company and I really think that, you know,
- 4:57I will say this, like the stock market's all about growth, you
- 5:00know, whether you're your Navidia or your Tesla, or your Apple or Nike
- 5:05or your Dolly Varden silver, and our growth comes from growing silver discoveries.
- 5:12And you know, four years ago this was a twenty somethings sent stock.
- 5:16It's now trading north of a dollar a share, and that was at a
- 5:20time where there hasn't been a tremendous amount of interest for small microcap precious metals
- 5:27equities. We're starting to see a little bit of interest, and I just
- 5:32think that you know, we are, we are very very well positioned for
- 5:38this coming bowl market. And during the time we mentioned the four year period
- 5:43where the interest has been you know, week at best to really Dolly Varden,
- 5:48a couple of other companies have really stood up during that time where you've
- 5:53been able to raise the capital, you haven't put have to do things on
- 5:56care and maintenance and deferrals, you have to defer your drilling programs. So
- 6:00that kind of makes you uniquely situated because obviously we're in a new precious metals
- 6:08bull market cycle. And where do you think we are in this cycle?
- 6:12Here, Sean, I think this is a baby bull. I think it's
- 6:17it's early early days. It's a baby bull. I've got a friend,
- 6:24he's also an investment advisor. His name's Bob Thompson. Bob is over at
- 6:30Raymond James and Bob is famously coined the idea or the term the mining clock.
- 6:38And essentially, you know, one o'clock being the start and you know
- 6:42eleven o'clock being close to the end of the party. And where Bob thinks
- 6:46we are is, you know, he thinks we're somewhere in that six to
- 6:48seven o'clock range. But he also talks about how you know, ninety percent
- 6:54of the wealth is created after nine pm, right, so it's in those
- 6:59final particular literally for the microcaps. So I agree with you we are in
- 7:05a ble market. I agree with Bob about you know, it's you know,
- 7:10we're we're moving towards that moment. It could be a few years from
- 7:16now, or you know, could be measured in you know, eighteen months.
- 7:21But one thing I do know is if you look at where the price
- 7:26of silver is relative to gold, this is an indication that we haven't seen
- 7:31the end of it. You know, gold's putting in new all time highs.
- 7:35Silver is only trading it sixty percent of its all time high, and
- 7:40so that's a great indicator that it's still early days. The other phenomenal indicator
- 7:46is where mining equities are relative to other asset classes. Now we could take
- 7:50the whether we take the price of gold or gold equities to Dow ratio,
- 7:57or we take something like where the Venture Exchange is trading as an index.
- 8:01So you know, the Canadian Venture Exchange is a great proxy to junior mining
- 8:07companies, and the fact that we're trading lower today and we were trading in
- 8:13the lower The great financial crisis is telling me that, you know, the
- 8:18bullmarket may have begun, but it's begun for the metal, the bullion,
- 8:22you know, the coins. You know, it's begun for some of the
- 8:28large caps. You could argue, like companies like Egnico Eagle or Numont or
- 8:33Barrack kin Ross, but really for developers, small producers, for forget exploration
- 8:43companies, it's early days. Well, my personal feeling, and I'm not
- 8:50an expert like you were, Bob, but I think this party could extend
- 8:52on and it could be a mammoth party that goes on till six in the
- 8:56morning, till all the people go home. That's my personal opinion. I
- 9:01think the clock's going to be running longer on this cycle than any other's because
- 9:07of the economic issues. But time will certainly prove that out. And also
- 9:13I agree with Bob because the M and A activity hasn't really hit stride yet.
- 9:20That's what we've all kind of been waiting for, isn't it. Yeah,
- 9:22you make two incredible points there. I'm going to touch on the first
- 9:28one. Bob was measuring that mining clock analogy and he was doing it in
- 9:33a currency that was the world's reserve currency where you had confidence in those dollars,
- 9:39where you know, he was looking at the last fifty sixty seventy years.
- 9:43But you are absolutely right. The reason this could be an all night
- 9:48rager is the fact that if we and you look at like, you know,
- 9:54the petro dollar, you know, the renewal not happening out of Saudi.
- 9:58You look at like what the bricks are doing. You look at you
- 10:01know, gold being a Tier one asset. You look at all these things
- 10:03that have been unfolding now for decades, like this has been building for decades,
- 10:09the debt levels, all this insanity, the wars, uh the spending,
- 10:16and you're right like this this is this could be a you know,
- 10:18like you know, you start measuring gold in in the win Mark Republic or
- 10:24in other scenarios Zimbabwe. You know, if you get into a place where
- 10:30the confidence goes in those greenbacks, it's you know, this is going to
- 10:35be a very very different scenario. It's as far as M and A goes,
- 10:41this is very interesting and I feel like I'm on the front lines of
- 10:43this. So I've been running Dolly Varn for four years I've been working with
- 10:48a great team, We've got a great asset, and you know, like
- 10:50you said, it's been one of the few. Gratefully, we're one of
- 10:54the few companies that have had some positive momentum. Now, despite that positive
- 11:01momentum, and apart from one corporate and HECLA, it's been very quiet in
- 11:05the land of corporates and competitive tension and emina activity Cherry. In the last
- 11:13two months, there's been a flurry of inbounds that we've been fielding from silver
- 11:20companies, from gold companies that all of a sudden want to have conversations.
- 11:24But what's interesting about that is I really think that that M and A stuff
- 11:31hasn't even started. So for example, if I'm a silver producer, I
- 11:37might want to look at other producers I can merge with, But those silver
- 11:43very very few producers are looking into that developer category, looking for that pipeline
- 11:52project to develop. They want to grow production. So that tells me like,
- 11:58once we start going out to the producers buying the explore copes, like
- 12:03they're not even ready for the developers yet, right, and so they just
- 12:07want to merge up with peers at this point, And that tells me that
- 12:11it's early, early, early, the early early days. And the great
- 12:15news is and again this is measuring you know, the last fifty sixty seventy
- 12:20years, and so these numbers, we might need to move the decimal point
- 12:26one to the right here from what I'm about to say, But the value
- 12:31of a silver ounce in the ground has ranged between forty cents to four dollars.
- 12:39There's some exceptions based on quality of ounces, but that's the range.
- 12:45You go back to August to twenty twenty with silver one to thirty dollars from
- 12:50a twelve dollars low four dollars an ounce, right, you go to the
- 12:54depths of you know, twenty fourteen, fifteen, bear mark it. You
- 13:00know, companies are trading for like fifty cents an ounce in the ground.
- 13:03My point in all this is the longer it takes the corporates to build up
- 13:09that m and a momentum, we'll be trading at that. Right now,
- 13:13we're somewhere in the middle. You know, the average company's probably trading around
- 13:16between one and two dollars. So it's not forty cents, it's not four
- 13:20dollars, it's between one and two dollars. In the ground value for silver,
- 13:26and a lot of things determine whether you're a dollar or two dollars size,
- 13:30grade location. But my point year is what four dollars could buy you
- 13:35twenty years ago, it can no longer buy you. So we might be
- 13:39in an environment where that in situ value, that enterprise value pronounce needs to
- 13:45be five dollars, six dollars. You know, you know, if we're
- 13:48printing a trillion new dollars every hundred days, you know how many of those
- 13:56dollars are going to take to go after announce of Selman? Good question,
- 14:00Good question. And in addition, the producers have got their own issues with
- 14:03dwindling reserves and they haven't really addressed that for quite a while other than looking
- 14:11for peer to peer mergers hundred percent. And you know what's crazy is if
- 14:18you look at production, you know the you know so from those reserves are
- 14:22producing, and you look at the production profile of the big ones like the
- 14:28new Mods, the Barracks, the Ignikos, most of their production is lowered
- 14:31today than it was ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. And that's after
- 14:39printing hundreds of millions of shares through the loot of acquisitions just to try to
- 14:46maintain eighty percent of previous production seventy percent of previous production. So you know,
- 14:52we're in a universe right now where and that's not a great place to
- 14:58be for effort investor. If you're an investor and you know gold stocks are
- 15:05going to outperform gold or silver stocks are going to outperform silver, well,
- 15:11if you're if you're in a major that's got dwindling resources and the only way
- 15:16for them to replenish those resources is to make expensive acquisitions. Well, the
- 15:22companies to focus on are the emerging producers, you know, the junior producers,
- 15:30and the companies that can build resources through discovery. So it's the explore
- 15:35cost. It's really that that's where the value is created in the mining sector.
- 15:41But when you're in a bear market, the place to hide out is
- 15:43in the royalty companies and in the seniors. But now that we're moving into
- 15:48that baby bull market, it's time for investors. And the sweet spot that
- 15:54I've tried to pick after doing this for twenty years and studying it and focusing
- 15:58on it is bind a company that's got a deposit, that has the ability
- 16:04to grow that deposit, and that I think is the real sweet spot.
- 16:10So that's where we try to focus, and Dolly Varden fits that profile to
- 16:15the tell right, any events coming up that you see could have a material
- 16:21impact on the sector and on Dolly Varden in the near future. Well,
- 16:26it's like a powder cake. You know, there's ninety nine ready of this
- 16:32load. And so had you wanted alphabetically, Jerry, well let's just say
- 16:37the top three from your perspective. Well, listen, I think it's hard
- 16:42to put your finger on the calendar where confidence goes. But you look at
- 16:51like you look. I remember when I first started the narrative twenty years ago.
- 16:56The narrative was, you know what if China trades treasuries or dollars for
- 17:03other things. And over the course of the last decade, we've seen,
- 17:08you know, them move half of their dollars or their US denominated bonds into
- 17:17agricultural land, commodities, real estate. They've taken dollars and they turned them
- 17:25into hard assets. So if Japan, who's now the single largest holder of
- 17:33dollar denominated debt as a foreigner, makes the same move that China does,
- 17:40I think that could be the major catalyst to send commodities priced in dollars through
- 17:49the roof, including silver and gold. So that's number one. I think
- 17:53the other thing that could impact our markets is a recession, a depression,
- 18:02you know, and and initially, you know, during those types of events,
- 18:04you know, gold and silver in nominal terms could get impacted negatively for
- 18:10a minute. But what history has taught us is they will be the best
- 18:15performing assets and the place to actually from a relative basis to preserve wealth.
- 18:22So I think, you know, more central banks moving away from dollars sort
- 18:26of de dollarization, you've got the potential for slower growth or recession. And
- 18:34then you know, Jim Rickards talks about currency wars, trade wars and then
- 18:44real wars, and you know the world has gone from cold to hot on
- 18:48the warfront. So that's that's another risk. But ultimately, there are things
- 18:53that are happening like growing industrial demand or growing demand out of Asia for these
- 19:00metals that even without these three factors, I think are very significant. Like
- 19:06for example, in Q one, the buying that's come out of India for
- 19:11silver has been material. Like if you took India and solar, that makes
- 19:18up you know, a third of all demand for solar today, substantial substantial,
- 19:26So a lot of potential pluses down the road. And even if things
- 19:30just stay the same, even though they appear to be pretty unsustainable, but
- 19:34even if they stay the same, the demand aspects are going up for gold
- 19:40and silver. Yeah, absolutely, hundred percent. All right, Well,
- 19:44we've got some things to chew over here, really interesting news, and the
- 19:48results can be better, and we just got a small percentage of them.
- 19:53In your humble opinion, anything approaching what Mooslam is, Any targets there you
- 20:00think are going to be equal or even better. We've got all three rigs
- 20:04turning on the Wolf deposit, and I'm really interested and excited about. We're
- 20:14employing a method Carrie called directional drilling. And this directional drilling, it's a
- 20:21little bit more expensive than your traditional drilling method, but the reason we're using
- 20:25it this year is if you think about some of our targets, you know,
- 20:29you're going from surface and you're going down, you know, hundreds and
- 20:33hundreds of feet below the surface. So if we you know, based on
- 20:37all of our you know, scientific tools like the geophysics, the chemistry,
- 20:45understanding the geology, if we take all that information and we look at where
- 20:52we know the mineralization is and if we try to target and pinpoint where we
- 20:57think we could have an extension, you could have the drill bit deviate from
- 21:04surface to target depth. What the directional drilling does is it makes you it
- 21:11improves your precision. And why I'm excited about that is there are multiple structures
- 21:21that have brought in the high grade silver mineralization. I think this directional drilling
- 21:25is going to capture more than one structure, which should lead to capturing more
- 21:29silver over a greater thickness, which would result in better results. So we've
- 21:37never done it. In the one hundred year history of the DOLLI of our
- 21:40mood deck, directional drilling has never been employed. And this is tapping right
- 21:45now and results are pending. All right, so this could be the game
- 21:49changer in the whole exploration the sector here. Directional drilling like horizontal drilling was
- 21:56for petroleum in that gas. So all right, well we're going to look
- 22:02forward to those results. Ask everybody who's watching listening, go over to Dolly
- 22:07vordensilver dot com sign up for notifications, ticker symbols in the US e O,
- 22:12L l F and of course in Canada, DV Sean, we'll be
- 22:18talking to you again soon. We'll see you at the Rick Rule Symposium in
- 22:22Boca Ratana That is from July seventh to the eleventh, So if any of
- 22:26you are in the neighborhood, please stop by and we'll talk to you then.
- 22:32Thanks so much, Kerry, looking forward to seeing you soon. The
- 22:41Financial Survival Network