Latest / WCBH / Lions Explode Early as Cats Rally — Round 17 AFL Roundup
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- 0:00Joining me on the line, as always, is Jono from Geelong. Jono,
- 0:04last weekend was round 17.
- 0:06And can we start with the game between your Cats and the Brisbane Lions?
- 0:10Yes, good to talk to you once again.
- 0:12Do we really have to start with that one?
- 0:1522-point margin? We didn't start as a Geelong supporter. The Lions came right
- 0:21out of the blocks, hit the first eight goals of the game.
- 0:24And it was almost over by that stage. But the Cats fought back in the second quarter.
- 0:29I think the margin was around about 11 points at halftime, but they burnt way
- 0:33too many tickets just to get back in the game. They didn't start well and the Lions were far too good.
- 0:38And there's no reason why they can't be winning three on the trot here, Cam.
- 0:42Well, the Cats have now slipped into that wildcard round territory and this
- 0:50was a home game as well. So I think I tipped the Cats from memory.
- 0:54Yeah, I think you did. And, well, we've got to remember the Lions came down
- 0:58here last year and did the same thing to us, but they beat us by about 12 goals,
- 1:02and that was Paddy Dangerfield's 350th game and the first whiteout game that
- 1:07Geelong hosted last year.
- 1:09But they've been one for one, the Cats and the Lions, over the last 12 months and thereabouts.
- 1:14They win one, we win one, they win one, we win one, but the Lions tend to win
- 1:18the one that counts, and that's grand final day.
- 1:21It sounds like the cold weather didn't stop the Lions from performing.
- 1:26Let's move on to the Swans v Bulldogs.
- 1:28Swans, they picked up a 35-point win over the Dogs.
- 1:32Yeah, the Swans, they came out, they looked pretty good, the Swannies.
- 1:35The Dogs did not give a yelp.
- 1:37They sort of fought back towards the end there at various stages and kept themselves
- 1:40somewhere around the mark, but the Swans were far too classy at the SCG.
- 1:45The poor old Doggies, when they miss their top liners, they just can't compete.
- 1:50West Coast, they went down, but they've got to be happy with their performance against the Crows.
- 1:53I think they've got to be happy with their year thus far, Cam.
- 1:56They've been competitive in a lot of games.
- 1:58They've won a couple as well, a couple more than they did last year.
- 2:01So, yeah, they're on the right track, the Eagles, and they're probably still
- 2:05another couple of years away from really being thereabouts. But it's good signs.
- 2:09They've got some good kids.
- 2:11Yeah, four wins now for the season for the Eagles, and Melbourne 125 defeating the Hawthorne Hawks 90.
- 2:17This was phenomenal. The Dees absolutely blasted out of the box against the Hawkers.
- 2:23I think at one stage I saw the score was something along the lines of 85 to 8.
- 2:27The Hawks fall back. I think they kicked 12, 13 or 14 goals in the third quarter,
- 2:32which was, you know, the Dees will go away and have a bit of a look at that and how that happened.
- 2:36But yeah, down in Tassie too, everyone picked Hawthorne. I didn't think anyone
- 2:41that picked the Dees to get over the line down in Tassie, but they went down
- 2:44there and they did it well.
- 2:46Yeah, that's interesting because the Demons, they're now sitting sixth on the
- 2:49ladder and the Hawks, you know, they were their third. So it was a top echelon
- 2:55battle. But yeah, well done to the Demons. What happened in Canberra?
- 3:00The Fremantle Dockers, top of the table, went down to the inconsistent GWS.
- 3:04Did GWS just find form just for this game?
- 3:07Well, I think, Cam, we just saw a glimpse of what the Giants are capable of.
- 3:11And I think I've been saying all year that they've been depleted by injuries
- 3:15at various stages and at some point they've got to click and they'll get a few
- 3:19players back and their second half of the year should be strong.
- 3:21But they've sort of had players go in and out all year and they'll lose Lockie
- 3:25Whitfield again with incussion next week.
- 3:28But I think we're just seeing what they should have been dishing up all year
- 3:31and I think it's probably the loss the Dockers needed to have.
- 3:34They'd won 14 on the trot or something ridiculous along those lines,
- 3:37but they can't win them all and it's probably good they've had a loss for their point of view.
- 3:42And Gold Coast Suns went down to the Magpies by six points. My screen is just
- 3:48showing red L, red L, red L, like just red L across the screen for the Gold Coast Suns.
- 3:55And the slide continues to 14th now.
- 3:59And I think that's been since Darwin came, hasn't it? They left Darwin.
- 4:04There's a bit of spite in this one too with Longy from the Suns bowling over,
- 4:10Braden Maynard on the halftime siren and cracking a couple of ribs for Maynard, which,
- 4:16he's probably owed a few because he's dished a few out to some opposition players over the journey.
- 4:19So it was from a non-Hollingwood supporter camp, it was nice to see that happen
- 4:24to Maynard. But yeah, the pies were just a bit too strong in the end for the Suns and...
- 4:31Yeah, it's troubling times there at Gold Coast.
- 4:34Explain me what a non-Collingwood supporter is. Does that mean like you're not
- 4:39just neutral, you're anti?
- 4:41Pretty much. Yeah, makes sense.
- 4:44And I think pretty much more the fact that it was Braden Maynard too.
- 4:48He likes to dish them out on Maynard, so it was good to see him get one back the other way.
- 4:53You would describe them as the manly of the AFL? No, I won't.
- 4:57But I would describe him as not the strongest tough man you've ever seen.
- 5:02Okay, now, would you describe Collingwood as the manly wearing the Seagulls
- 5:06of the AFL, the team that people just love to hate?
- 5:09Yes, yes, yes, 100%, Cam. Sorry, I missed that. Yes, 100%.
- 5:13And the Blues picked up another win. It wasn't by much, two points over the
- 5:18lowly Richmond Tigers, but the Blues, where the Suns are showing a lot of red
- 5:22on the screen, the Blues are just green Ws all the way along.
- 5:26Yeah, phenomenal. And we say it every week. They haven't lost a game since poor
- 5:30old Michael Voss was shown the door.
- 5:33And, yes, good luck to them. Well done, the Blues.
- 5:36But they made hard work of it against the Tigers. And credit to the Tigers.
- 5:39They actually put up a fairly decent fight against some controversial unbuying
- 5:43decisions, Cam, which we're now seeing, unfortunately, in every game of footy
- 5:47just about every weekend.
- 5:50And there almost needs to be some sort of inquiry into the arc,
- 5:53the goal, investigation, video cameras, and also the field umpiring.
- 6:00It seems to be just general discussion for the whole week leading into the next round of footy.
- 6:05That's a big call that there needs to be an investigation. St Kilda,
- 6:09what are they now, 12th on the ladder. They took on the 18th place Bombers,
- 6:14and they more than doubled the Bombers score. Yeah, the Bombers are struggling, Cam.
- 6:19They'll be just waiting for this year to finish and start again next year.
- 6:22Obviously, they'll have a
- 6:22new coach, whether it's James Hurd or whoever they put in the helm there.
- 6:28Whoever comes in is not going to flick the switch overnight and turn it around,
- 6:32but, yeah, they're struggling, the Bombers. And well done to the Saints.
- 6:35They still had to get it done. They went out there and did it.
- 6:38And I thought the Kangaroos would have got the job done against Port Adelaide,
- 6:42but it was actually Port Adelaide who came up trumps at home.
- 6:46Yeah, and put on Port Adelaide because they have been around the mark for most
- 6:49of the year, and I think they've lost four or five or five or six games by under a kick.
- 6:54So they have been thereabouts, so it was nice to see them get a win and a win
- 6:58that, well, they had to fight for it. North were thereabouts even with,
- 7:01you know, halfway through the last quarter. So it could have gone either way,
- 7:04but fought too strong in the end.
- 7:06Now, this is a question that I haven't preempted with you, so you may not have
- 7:10an answer this week. It might be next week.
- 7:13But what number of points do you think will be the bottom of the 10 for the
- 7:19ladder when it comes finals time?
- 7:21Because at the moment, the Blues and the Kangaroos, they split 10 and 11. They're on 32 points.
- 7:29What do teams need to get to? Well, historically for the eight,
- 7:33when it was top eight, they used to work on 12 or 13 wins to get you into the eight.
- 7:39So you would think it would be around the 11-12 mark for 9-12.
- 7:45So if we're looking at the Pies now, what have they had? They've had eight wins,
- 7:48so another three wins to sneak in.
- 7:51So I reckon that should be around about the mark. You'd want to be 11 or 12.
- 7:55But then, again, when we've got Richmond and Essendon and West Coast,
- 7:59you know, sides that aren't winning games, that might even lift the number by one.
- 8:03So we might be saying, you know, 12, 13 wins for, you know, 9 and 10, 13, 14 wins for 7 and 8.
- 8:10But it's starting to look a little bit of a logjam there, Cam,
- 8:13isn't it? from fourth. It certainly is. You look at Geelong at seventh,
- 8:17that's the best team we've probably seen sitting at seventh place on the ladder.
- 8:22So the Cats probably need to pull their finger out and win a few more games here.
- 8:26Let's turn our attention now to round 18. Thursday night, Dockers and Swans.
- 8:31This will be huge. Top of the top. 1v2.
- 8:34First versus second, over in Perth.
- 8:36Frio looking to bounce back after their loss to the Giants last week.
- 8:41And the Swannies, they're just
- 8:43humming along. So this will be a must-watch game on Thursday night, Cam.
- 8:48Certainly will. Friday, Collingwood and the Kangaroos go head-to-head.
- 8:53Yeah, the Pies, you would think, would be too strong.
- 8:57George Wardlaw, a young gun from North, he'll miss with a hamstring injury,
- 9:01so that's a bad loss for North.
- 9:03And the Pies, they're just rolling along nicely here the last few weeks,
- 9:07so I think they should be too strong for the Kangas.
- 9:10All right, let's just go back, loop back to Jockers and Swans.
- 9:13We didn't put our tips in.
- 9:15I'm going to tip the Jockers over in the West. And I'm going to tip the Swans
- 9:18in an upset. Who would have thought it would be saying a Swans in an upset,
- 9:21but I'm going to tip the Swans.
- 9:22Very good. And Collingwood, Kangaroos? Yeah, pies for me, Cam.
- 9:27I'm going the upset in that one with the Kangaroos.
- 9:29Saturday, first game, St Kilda, Port Adelaide. Under the roof at the dome,
- 9:34Cam, I think the Saints...
- 9:37Should be too strong, but we've seen stranger things happen.
- 9:41And we know that Port are going to be around the mark because they've shown
- 9:43that in the majority of their games this year.
- 9:46But I think I'm just going to have to tip the Saints purely on home ground advantage, and that is it.
- 9:51Yeah, I'll go the Saints, although Port had that win last week.
- 9:54I'll stick with the Saints. Tell me about GWS v the Cats.
- 9:59Can the Giants pull it out two weeks in a row? They certainly can.
- 10:03And obviously buoyed by the seven-goal haul from veteran Jade Stringer last
- 10:08week against the Dockers.
- 10:10But unfortunately for the Giants, they will miss Playmaker and their key defender,
- 10:13Lockie Whitfield, who suffered a concussion last week. So he will miss the game.
- 10:19The Cats, it's a must-win for them to hang around that mark looking,
- 10:22you know, if they have a chance to make the top four, they must win this game.
- 10:26The Giants can definitely win, but I think I'm going to have to stick with my Cats can.
- 10:31Something tells me I want to tip the Giants in this one, but that's,
- 10:35I'll go with the Giants. I'll go with the upset.
- 10:38I've tipped the Cats a lot this year.
- 10:42And they've let you down? No, they've been good. They've been really good.
- 10:45Well, they've let me down. And if Lockie Whitfield was playing this game, I would tip the Giants.
- 10:51All right, let's go now to the Blues and the Hawks. Yeah, this would be,
- 10:57well, you'd think on paper that the Hawks should get this done,
- 11:00but, You can only go on form. The Blues have won seven on the trot.
- 11:03The Hawks have come back from an absolute debacle of a weekend last weekend down in Tassie.
- 11:10But they should bounce back. Whether the wizard Watson comes back into the side,
- 11:14time will tell later in the week.
- 11:16The Blues will give them a bit of a shake-up, but I think the Hawks should prevail in the end.
- 11:20So this could be the game that ends the Blues' run? I think it will be.
- 11:25They can't keep winning. They can't keep their stretch running.
- 11:28And Hawthorne, you know, they're sitting third on the ladder for a reason.
- 11:32The Hawks, they're a good side, and they should be too polished and get this joint done.
- 11:36Yeah, I'm going to tip the Hawks in that one. Sorry, Blues. Crows and Suns, 5v14.
- 11:43Well, as you know, Cam, if we think back to the start of the year,
- 11:45I did tip the Crows to win the flag, and they're currently sitting in fifth,
- 11:48and they've been a little bit inconsistent dropping that game against Port the
- 11:52week before, but I think they should be too strong with the Suns.
- 11:56But the Suns, at some point, they've got to draw the line in the sand and say,
- 11:59we must win a game of footy, so it could also be this weekend.
- 12:02But I think purely for the home ground advantage at the Adelaide Oval, the Crows win for me.
- 12:08Yeah, it's going to be a tough ask for the Suns, but I don't tip against my
- 12:11team, so I will be tipping the Suns. Dogs and Eagles.
- 12:15Dogs should be too strong for Eagles, Cam. They need to bounce back after their
- 12:18loss to the Swannies last week if they're going to partake in any of the finals this year, the Dogs.
- 12:25Fair enough. I'll back the Dogs there. Dees and the Tigers. Dees are red hot
- 12:29and they should account for Richmond comfortably.
- 12:32108 up against $8. Yeah, we'll back the Dees there.
- 12:36And the Lions, fourth place Lions up against the 18th Bombers, 102 to $15.
- 12:43Yeah, there's much else to be said. You don't see a $15 winner in a two-horse
- 12:47race too often, do you? So the Lions win by the length of the Flemington Strait
- 12:52if we're talking horse racing, Cam.
- 12:543,200 metres. Correct. That's the Melbourne Cup day.
- 12:59All right. Anything else to mention? The AFL dishing out $45,000 worth of fines
- 13:05for malays over the last weekend, Cam. So that's a nice little few little dollars
- 13:11in the coffer of the AFL. Once again.
- 13:14It's such an AFL word, melee, isn't it? Yeah. Once upon a time,
- 13:18if we're talking NRL, it's just a proper dust-up, isn't it?
- 13:23Yeah, certainly is. That's long gone in the past now, which is,
- 13:26you know, good for the football, that it's out of the game.
- 13:29Anyway, Jono, it's been good to talk. Let's chat again next week and,
- 13:32yeah, go those Suns. Go the Cats. Thanks, Cam.