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Hour Two | Dr. Etheredge Joins, LSU Gym Natty & Jay Clark Interview · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench, Live from the Raisin
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in our number two of Off
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  Speaker 2: Joining the show doc Good Morning, How you doing.
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  Speaker 4: Morning Morning? Still figuring out this adulting thing as well.
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  Speaker 2: So it's it's it's stinks, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 4: It's not fun.
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  Speaker 2: It's the worst, and you're a doctor. I don't. I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't like the adult side.
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  Speaker 3: I do like it's it was a while and still
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  Speaker 3: probably not the most consistent with it, but like you
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  Speaker 3: got to schedule your owndentist appointment, I got it.
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  Speaker 4: It's important.
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  Speaker 3: It is important and one of my like when I
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  Speaker 3: got out of the NFL, one of my welcome to
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  Speaker 3: actual like life and being a real human being outside
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  Speaker 3: of the professional football world. It was like having to
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  Speaker 3: book my own doctor appointment and sign up and go
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  Speaker 3: to a waiting room.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's a big deal, and I mean, you don't
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  Speaker 4: do it.
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  Speaker 2: I believe that.
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  Speaker 4: I think they attribute the cause of George Washington's death
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  Speaker 4: to or dental issues. It wouldn't tea got him, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and I think eventually caused you know, some infections and
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  Speaker 4: other things that you know, my god, first president got him.
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  Speaker 4: It can get you to I know.
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  Speaker 2: I got George Washington. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I hadn't seen a lot of wooden teeth around, but
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  Speaker 3: now yep, oh well, doc. So last week you were
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  Speaker 3: in Fort Worth with the gymnastics team.
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  Speaker 4: We were we were a great, great trip. Girls did awesome.
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  Speaker 4: You know, just a couple not even a tenth of a
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  Speaker 4: point shot and what point something like that, or they
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  Speaker 4: did awesome. Really proud of them. They they battled through.
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  Speaker 4: You know, we talked a lot about medical and I've
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  Speaker 4: said before they're tough and they had to be there.
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  Speaker 4: They were fighting at the end, and I'm sure a
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  Speaker 4: lot of stuff that accumulates. So really really proud of that.
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  Speaker 3: It's impressive that you know, you talked about on the
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  Speaker 3: show when you called them from Fort Worth about all
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  Speaker 3: the stuff, like there's a difference between hurt and injured, right,
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  Speaker 3: but like that the abuse that they put onto their
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  Speaker 3: body and like you see you see out you know,
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  Speaker 3: beautiful and elegant and like easy they make the moves
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  Speaker 3: look during the meat, but what you don't see is
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  Speaker 3: like the amount of times they have to do that
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  Speaker 3: and like push themselves in practice to be good at that.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm sure like most of that stress comes from
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  Speaker 3: just the training.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's it's it's a lot of work. It's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of work that goes into it. Like you said,
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  Speaker 4: it's just you only see a fraction of it. And
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  Speaker 4: that's like really to be fair any sport. But I
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  Speaker 4: feel like that's one where that's that's extremely true is
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  Speaker 4: with the gymnastics, that the the work, not just the practice,
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  Speaker 4: the preparation, but the medical, the preparation they have to
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  Speaker 4: go to, the work the staff does, the training staff.
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  Speaker 4: You know, Jenny the trainer with a gym, she does
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  Speaker 4: a great job getting those girls ready. And but it's
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  Speaker 4: it's you know, and then when I'm watching them doing
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  Speaker 4: what they're doing, knowing that some of them are fighting
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  Speaker 4: through it, you know, I'm I'm holding my breath probably
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  Speaker 4: even more than the rest of their body because I'm like, oh, gosh,
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  Speaker 4: hope that that injury doesn't flare ever right now, you know,
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  Speaker 4: And it's it's it's it's it's impressive what they do
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  Speaker 4: even without the injuries. But then you factor that in,
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  Speaker 4: it's just that much more.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you get a little adrenaline pumping too. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: maybe like the you know, if you got the same
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  Speaker 3: injury and it's a meat that maybe not quite as
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  Speaker 3: big as the national level, you know, you got a
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  Speaker 3: little dreams, and I know that they have to control
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  Speaker 3: that too. That's part of their trade, is controlling that
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  Speaker 3: adrenaline flow. Yeah, you have to because you can't be
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  Speaker 3: two over, too amped up. It's not kind of like
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  Speaker 3: can't be a nut out there. But yeah, well we
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  Speaker 3: got we got Jake Clark coming on the show at
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  Speaker 3: eight thirty, So I can't wait to kind of give
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  Speaker 3: his just rundown. I mean, I want to show like
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  Speaker 3: his post meat speech.
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  Speaker 2: To the girl. It's just great. He's a he's a
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  Speaker 2: great steward.
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  Speaker 4: He's been fantastic. He's such a such a good representative
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  Speaker 4: for the university, like you said, but he's just you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's such a healthy program where they're at, you know,
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  Speaker 4: unfortunate that's not always the case with gymnastics. You look
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  Speaker 4: at some of these programs around the country and you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's not always the healthiest sport, not just from the
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  Speaker 4: physical side, but a lot of times the mental stuff
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  Speaker 4: that goes into it. And he does a fantastic job
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  Speaker 4: of kind of having his thumb on the pulse of
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  Speaker 4: what needs to be done and what doesn't need to
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  Speaker 4: be done.
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  Speaker 3: Do they shut those girls down for like a month now? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: got to right doctor's orders. Yeah, they need it, They've
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  Speaker 3: earned it, Yeah for sure. All right, doc, let's talk
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  Speaker 3: a let's talk a little bit. A lot of a
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  Speaker 3: couple of injuries came to kind of the headlines yesterday
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  Speaker 3: for LSU. Certainly the picture has been out for We've
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  Speaker 3: had a picture out for multiple weeks, and they're like, so,
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  Speaker 3: we didn't know. I kind of figured he was out
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  Speaker 3: for the year, and we heard officially, yes, they kind
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  Speaker 3: of out. I don't want to ask like specifically about
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  Speaker 3: the injury, but as a former thrower myself, I was
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  Speaker 3: telling the story about uh. I think yesterday I had
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  Speaker 3: elbow tenonitis one year and it almost cost me the
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  Speaker 3: last couple of years of my career because sometimes sometimes
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  Speaker 3: you have these injuries and there's so many like small
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  Speaker 3: muscles in your forearm in the elbow area that they
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  Speaker 3: lock up. They they do their job for a reason.
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  Speaker 3: They lock up to protect different things, and I just
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  Speaker 3: could not get this one spot. And it was one
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  Speaker 3: of those situations where it was like, all right, take
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna take two months off. You're not gonna throw
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  Speaker 3: a ball for two months. We're gonna rehabit, we're gonna strengthen,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to do all different treatments on it.
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  Speaker 2: And I did it. Two months later, I.
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  Speaker 3: Threw the ball and it felt the exact same as
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  Speaker 3: it did two months before, and I was like, all right, well,
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  Speaker 3: I'm out of here. I'm gonna go try something else,
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  Speaker 3: somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: And so it's one of.
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  Speaker 3: Those situations where the body just did not do the
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  Speaker 3: things that it wanted to, so I only had to
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  Speaker 3: figure something else out. Is there a hope that sometimes
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  Speaker 3: when you get these shoulder or elbow injuries, whatever it
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  Speaker 3: may be, that the body takes over and does its
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  Speaker 3: thing and then you just have to make a different assessment.
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  Speaker 3: Is there is there like two diagnosis or assessments that
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  Speaker 3: can come from the same injury when it comes to
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  Speaker 3: like a highly used elbow shoulder situation for a thrower.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure there are. And it's you know, I
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  Speaker 4: tell patients all the time, whether it's sar athletes or
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  Speaker 4: in my clinic just of people that are coming in.
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  Speaker 4: There's different types of injuries out there. There's some that
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  Speaker 4: are very obvious. We know exactly with this injury that
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  Speaker 4: this is the right treatment, that this is going to
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  Speaker 4: be what we have to do. You know, if you
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  Speaker 4: tear your ACL, we know we need to go reconstruct
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  Speaker 4: in ACL. If you have a lot of these kind
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  Speaker 4: of overuse injuries, which which is what most throwing injuries
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  Speaker 4: are going to be. You know, most of the times, it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be lost in lots of throwing over years
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  Speaker 4: and years and years, kind of like with your example,
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  Speaker 4: and really we weren't designed to be overhead throwers. That's
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  Speaker 4: not that's kind of an unnatural motion for for for humans.
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  Speaker 4: So when you do that over and over, for one,
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  Speaker 4: you're going to have certain areas that just accumulate stress.
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  Speaker 4: And even if you're doing everything perfect, but even more
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  Speaker 4: so if you're overdoing it or have bad technique. But
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  Speaker 4: then when you're dealing with some of these areas, you know,
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  Speaker 4: if it's a you know, a ligament injury or a
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  Speaker 4: tendon injury, or a stress injury to bone, which are
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  Speaker 4: the things that we typically see, is these are areas
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  Speaker 4: that don't always have good blood flow, these areas that
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  Speaker 4: aren't always going to respond the same. So, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I see a lot of patients with tennis elbow, which
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  Speaker 4: is a you know, it's a tendon injury in the elbow.
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  Speaker 4: It's kind of a similar thing to what we see.
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  Speaker 4: And I tell them my patience all the time, this
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  Speaker 4: is a weird problem. I was like, I wish I
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  Speaker 4: could tell you that this is the right answer. It's
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  Speaker 4: not to say, Okay, I know the right answer and
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  Speaker 4: this is definitely it. And I kind of go through
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  Speaker 4: this whole spiel where like, you know, there's there's things
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  Speaker 4: we can do, there's you know, usually we try to
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  Speaker 4: start with the safer at least lower invasive procedures, especially
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  Speaker 4: in the general population, and then we kind of build
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  Speaker 4: from there, and and it's not always an answer. Now
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  Speaker 4: in the heart of the season, sometimes there's more pressure.
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  Speaker 4: We still want to do things safely. We don't want
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  Speaker 4: to put our athletes at risk, so sometimes it will
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  Speaker 4: be a little bit more quick to jump to some
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  Speaker 4: of those more I wouldn't say extreme, but a little
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  Speaker 4: bit further down the list treatments. But even then you
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  Speaker 4: don't always know the response you're gonna get, and nobody does.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a it's not an easy thing.
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  Speaker 3: So so you probably start with what like the biological
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  Speaker 3: like injections and then if that did work, then it's
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  Speaker 3: surgery like repair.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of times that's where we end up, especially
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  Speaker 4: the athlete. A lot of times we'll skip, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like I said, with the a lot of these injections.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're great options. They're safe, they're healthy. You know,
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  Speaker 4: things like PRP, some of the stem cells, things like
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  Speaker 4: that we sometimes do. And that's gonna be more the
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  Speaker 4: soft tissue, the the ligaments, the tendons, the muscles. So yeah,
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  Speaker 4: sometimes we're quicker to do those treatments. But even then,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you got to talk with the athletes. You
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  Speaker 4: gotta decide what they want to do too. It's always
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  Speaker 4: their decision too, that's the first and foremost, and so
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  Speaker 4: we kind of give them the options. But and then
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  Speaker 4: you know rehab that the trainers do a great job.
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  Speaker 4: They we get our physical therapist involved, we get all
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  Speaker 4: the all all the things on deck. But sometimes these
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  Speaker 4: things just don't go the way you want them to,
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  Speaker 4: and sometimes the body, to your point, doesn't respond. We
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  Speaker 4: hope it does.
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  Speaker 3: But Doc, I know you're the doctor and everything, but
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  Speaker 3: let me give you a piece of advice. Elbow ten
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  Speaker 3: and itis PRP is crap.
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  Speaker 4: Just want you to know that fair enough, fair enough.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I had. And then I waited two months
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  Speaker 3: and then nothing changed. It probably didn't feel good when
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  Speaker 3: you got it. Oh god, it was hurt. It felt
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  Speaker 3: better than the stem cells. But the stim cells did
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  Speaker 3: actually work. It took about a month though, maybe two
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  Speaker 3: months before.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes you gotta and look. Sometimes even if it works,
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  Speaker 4: it takes time. Yeah, it's not. It's not always gonna
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  Speaker 4: be a quick fix. Even then, it was wild because
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  Speaker 4: they were like, all right, these are the stem cells.
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  Speaker 4: They take about four to six weeks to like work,
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  Speaker 4: and you start feeling anything about five weeks.
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  Speaker 2: I woke up one day and know they what, it
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  Speaker 2: didn't hurt at all. This is fantastic. That worked well.
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  Speaker 4: We've had we've had pretty results the ones we've done.
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  Speaker 3: People throw really fast these days, really fast pictures like
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  Speaker 3: if you don't throw ninety five, it's like you're slowed
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  Speaker 3: these days, which is which is a wild world.
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  Speaker 2: It's great so.
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  Speaker 3: People body mechanics being able to everybody have access to
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  Speaker 3: to film and teachings, whether it's on YouTube, whether it's
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  Speaker 3: on you know, watching a big league pitcher and analysts
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  Speaker 3: breaking down as pitching motion, everybody understands that it's not
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  Speaker 3: just about muscles that strong people that throw the ball
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  Speaker 3: hard or strong people that hit the ball far. It's
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  Speaker 3: about body mechanics creating levers and torque and lag and
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  Speaker 3: speed of the bat, speed of the arm, and whip
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  Speaker 3: the whip motion that creates a lot of stress on
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  Speaker 3: an elbow. Pay me out so much on the shoulder
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  Speaker 3: because but it's it's all on the whipping motion. And
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  Speaker 3: you know people talk about the elbow being like the
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  Speaker 3: handle of a whip. It's got to lead everything and
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  Speaker 3: everything comes through that creates I mean, there's ligaments. God
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  Speaker 3: made these ligaments to do stuff. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: he made everybody to be able to throw one hundred
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  Speaker 3: miles an hour. Yeah, but you do you contort your
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  Speaker 3: body and to get to that speed because that's what
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  Speaker 3: you got to do to compete. Do you have to
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  Speaker 3: be a certain like a certain body likes people can
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  Speaker 3: do it. People have been throwing one hundred miles an
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  Speaker 3: hour for half a half a century, right, But it's
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  Speaker 3: the certain type of people with a certain type of build,
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  Speaker 3: with a certain type of mechanics. Not everybody can do that, Like,
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  Speaker 3: what's what are the what are the dangers like long
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  Speaker 3: term of you know, you see high schoolers throwing ninety
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  Speaker 3: eight ninety nine miles an hour.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think one thing that we've kind
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  Speaker 4: of come to understand is is the harder you throw,
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  Speaker 4: the more stress. And that's just kind of physics, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we kind of know that that's any situation, the harder,
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  Speaker 4: faster something moves, it's going to have more force. And
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  Speaker 4: so when you start moving that arm faster and faster
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  Speaker 4: and putting more torque on that elbow, it is going
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  Speaker 4: to have more problems. Now, some people, just by the
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  Speaker 4: way they are made genetically predisposed, some people are never
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  Speaker 4: gonna be able to throw hundred miles an hour. You
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  Speaker 4: have to have some of the right predispositions. And it's
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  Speaker 4: not just strength. It's going to be kind of something
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  Speaker 4: because you have to put that torque. How much laxity
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  Speaker 4: of your arm do you have, how much are you
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  Speaker 4: able to develop, and a lot of those things, so
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  Speaker 4: it's not there's a lot that goes into it. And
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  Speaker 4: then and then yeah, some people are gonna be less
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  Speaker 4: less injury prone. You know, I think we had talked
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  Speaker 4: to one of the episodes talking about like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: guy like Nolan Ryan who literally made it all the
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  Speaker 4: way to the end of his career, which was a
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  Speaker 4: long career before he ever had any like Tommy John
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  Speaker 4: type injury. And this is a guy who threw gas
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  Speaker 4: and threw a lot more than guys they throw. He
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  Speaker 4: was he was built a little different. Now you can
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  Speaker 4: also talk about the training and the different ways we
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  Speaker 4: do things now versus then, and there's probably something yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and look, there there may be something to that, but
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  Speaker 4: also the fact that he did what he did for
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  Speaker 4: as long as he did, you know, there was just
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  Speaker 4: some guys are made different, and so the reality of it,
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  Speaker 4: we know some people have more dense tendons, more dense ligaments,
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  Speaker 4: more dense bone. We know there's a lot of things
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  Speaker 4: that go into it, and there's some of these things
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  Speaker 4: are gonna be more protective. So there is some predisposition
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  Speaker 4: for all these things, both the ability and the injury risk,
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  Speaker 4: and some that we understand, but most that we're still
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  Speaker 4: kind of figuring out.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Doc, the question that has been burning in
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  Speaker 3: my brain for about twenty four hours now, what the
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  Speaker 3: heck's a hammetbone.
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  Speaker 4: So in your wrist, you've got what are called your
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  Speaker 4: carpl and your metacarpal bones. So you have the long
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  Speaker 4: bones of the forearm that come down, so the radius
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  Speaker 4: and the elena they come down, and there's a grouping
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  Speaker 4: of several little small bones right there. Those are your
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  Speaker 4: carpal bones, and the hama is one of those. So
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  Speaker 4: if you think about the different bones in there, and
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  Speaker 4: it's one of the ones that we do think about
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  Speaker 4: in sports, particularly like racket or clubs or bats, so
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  Speaker 4: and you're gripping a club like so it's a golf
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  Speaker 4: injury too. I know in this sense we're obviously talking
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  Speaker 4: about baseball, but it's a common baseball, softball, golf, anything
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  Speaker 4: where you're gripping a racket and and especially repetitive motions
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  Speaker 4: kind of like the elbow with throwing. Most of these injuries,
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  Speaker 4: or at least a lot of them, are going to
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  Speaker 4: be from that repetitive stress in that area. Now, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of times the ultimate injury will come from something
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: that's a little bit higher stress, like you're trying to
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: check a swing and suddenly stop it, or in a golfer,
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: sometimes they kind of come up a little fat and
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: hit hit the ground. That's a lot of times when
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: you see the actual injury, but there's also a lot
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: of thought that is probably an accumulated stress injury as well.
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: So it's probably a little bit of both. But it's
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: a it's a bone here on the pinky side of
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: the wrist, so you kind of kind of right there
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: and what's called the hypothen r area. It's just kind
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: of right at the base of that and it's kind
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: of right in that crease area. So it's actually one
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: of the bones that that helps make up the carpal tunnel.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: Right with the hand like connects to the arm right
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: or right next right there, and you have right in
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: that that pinky side, and you and and and some
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: and again with that if you think about the rotation
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: that goes in and especially you're suddenly trying to stop
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: it to sometimes when you come to a sudden stop.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: So either if you like said, hit the ground in
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: a golf club or if you're trying to check a
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: swing or some something like that, that's a lot of times
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: you see these injuries.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: I think a lumberjack would get that too.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: It probably do. They probably don't. I don't see too
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: many lumberjacks in the clinic. You know, maybe maybe move
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: all watches up north, maybe then we see more of it.
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: But but you know, it's, it's, it's and then it's
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: It's not always an easy diagnosis. It's missed a lot
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: of times on X rays, So a lot of times
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: you just go get a standard actually.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Just because it's like I'm trying to think of like
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: an X ray of an arm wrists, Like I feel
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: like there's just a lot of floating muscles or floating
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: bones in there.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: A lot of small bones, and yeah, sometimes they do
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: kind of look like they're floating in there. I mean
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: they obviously they all have different ligaments of attachments, but
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: it does kind of look that way on the X ray.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: And then there's a little there's what's called the hook
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: of the hamma, so it's a little projection that comes
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: off of it, and that's usually where the fracture is.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: And because of the the you know, two D nature
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: of an X ray sometimes really hard to see, so
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: you really need to get you know a lot of
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: times a NIMRH or c T scan to diagnose it.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Sometimes you'll see it on the x ray. But you know,
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: it's it's it's often missed.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Are there any other famous carpels?
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: Risk Probably the one that's talked about the most outside
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: of that and is probably the skin a foid skateboard
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: is is is a little bone that's more on the
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: other side, a little closer to the radial side of
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: the wrist or the thumb side of the wrist. It's
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: it's mostly associated with with falls on an outstretched hand
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: or what we call a foosh injury with that one.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: It's also one that's it's, it's it's talked about. It's
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: probably you see fractures of that and a lot more.
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: And it's one that canna be a snake in the
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: grass too though, because sometimes missed on an X ray
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: and if if you don't treat these appropriately, they can
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: develop into chronic you know, risk issues. So you know
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: those are those are two you always kind of as
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: a physician, need to be suspicious of, you know, one
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: more on the thumb side, one more on the pinky side.
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: The mechanism of the injury is always important. Classic skatepoid,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: classic skateboard.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: What'd you call it?
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: A fush all on outstretched hand?
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: Hum, all right, got a hammet, we've got a skaphoid. Foush.
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: We are learning. So the privateer thing.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: I did not actually, did you hear? I did catch
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: that up? Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that. Thank privateer is
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: a legal classy pirate, classy pirates.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: In the class. Yeah, we did, and they actually fight
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: for their country.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: I think, well, I think that was uh what's the
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: famous pirate down in New Orleans? Uh, John or what's
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: his name? Yeah, when he I think at one point
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: I think he was a private mascot. I think if
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: A privateer, so he's not.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: He did a little bit of both. I think I
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: think at one point he was a pirate and then
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: he was a dark kind yeah, to kind of get
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: a pardon, kind of get out of trouble. I think
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: I might his historians if I'm wrong that I apologize.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe he was a mercenary.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: I think it was one of those kind of deals
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: where he.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Was he was like the best in the best, best
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: in the game at the pirate game.
• 17:41
  Speaker 8: They created him.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think I really think it was something. Again,
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I might be wrong, but I feel like it was
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: the sort of say hey, well, we'll kind of forget
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: those things he did if you help us out here.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Kind of like Jay, they recruit a little power for
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: their lineup, and they recruit the best pirate to be
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: a privateer like that. Okay, last question carpal tunnel syndrome,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: which which carpool were talking.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Well, yes, and one of the ones that helps make
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: up a tunnel is the is the hammet that we're
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: talking about a moment ago. So again, carpal bones. There's
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: on your palm side, you have some tendons, ligaments, and
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: nerves and stuff. Specifically some tendons and nerves that run
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: through this little natural tunnel that goes on top of
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: the bones. And then there's like a fiber sheet that
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: sits on top of it, and you have what's called
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: the media nerve, which the nerve that goes to the
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: pinky and the thumb, and if for whatever reason, if
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: that area gets too tight, if it gets compressed, it
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: will compress that nerve, usually some kind of either injury, inflammatory,
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: or overuse conditions, and then you'll get some numbness, tingling,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: usually on the thumb side of the hand, the thumb
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: and the index finger. Sometimes pain, sometimes numbnes sometimes even
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: weakness can develop in your grip and things like that,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: and if it's you know, if it lingers, sometimes it's
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: something you have to go in and relieve some of
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: that pressure surgically.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Doc, we gotta learn learn on today like good day, skaphoids, fooshes,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: carpal tunnels. I appreciate it, yeah, Hans, Doc, I really
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: appreciate every week coming in and dropping a little knowledge
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: on us. And hopefully we taught you something about privateers.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, learning something new.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: So it's a little little give and take here, just
• 19:17
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• 19:19
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• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Thank you as always, and we will see you next
• 19:26
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• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Let's go, all right, go Tigers, Go Tigers. Thank you Dot.
• 19:31
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• 21:52
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  Speaker 3: little research on Jean Lafitte at the break. Okay, so
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  Speaker 3: again to explain the deris wayne a privateer and a
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: pirate private A privateer operates with a government letter of marquee,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: so making their raids against enemy ships legal, whereas pirates,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: of course attack any ship illegally.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Lafitte used these.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Legal documents to justify capturing Spanish vessels, particularly while leading
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: a colony in Galveston, he was called the gentleman pirate.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Do you know that? Just learn that?
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: I do love Lafitte's.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: In New Orleans he was called the gentleman pirate or
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: the king of oo. Well no, huh, barrataria.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the it's like here in Louisiana.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: The okay, sorry, that's probably a word I should know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: but I don't. Let's see Battle of New Orleans. Despite
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: his lawless activity, he was praised as a hero in
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: the War of eighteen twelve, supplying weapons in aiding Andrew
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Jackson in the Battle of New Orleans.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, shout out.
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  Speaker 2: Sean Lafi Hey you do you buddy?
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  Speaker 8: Legendary privateer slash pirate.
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  Speaker 2: Again.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Crazy that it took LSU defeating UNO to learn exactly
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: what a privateer is.
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I never questioned it, feeling something we should.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Have learned in school, right, just kind of glossed over,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Oh privateer, they mean pirate, right, they just misspelled it.
• 23:50
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• 23:52
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• 24:06
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  Speaker 3: So really excited to see him. Of course, I let's
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: do gymnastics team finish and runner up in Nationals this
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: past weekend, but absolutely nothing to be disappointed about. His
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: team fought hard and executed incredibly well at the end
• 24:25
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• 24:29
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• 24:33
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  Speaker 9: You just went one ninety eight on championship Day. That's
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  Speaker 9: all you can ever ask for. Okay, sometimes as stars
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  Speaker 9: gotta line up. There's nothing to be ashamed of at all.
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  Speaker 6: You left it out there. That was a lot of
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• 27:10
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• 27:11
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• 27:14
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• 27:23
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• 27:27
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• 27:28
  Speaker 2: It's just a little.
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• 27:47
  Speaker 3: There is Coach Jay Clark after National Championship Meet and
• 27:52
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  Speaker 3: joined us coach how are you doing?
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: Good morning, Good morning guys, how are you all the
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: state doing?
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Fantastic? Coach?
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: I saw that the other day for the first time
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: when when it was posted on social media, and gave
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: me goosebumps because I've been in that situation countless times
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: in my former sports career and been in those situations
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: where you knew you laid it all on the line,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: and certainly your ladies did and a fantastic performances past weekend.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Just give us a give us a quick just overview
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: of how you thought the from Thursday through the weekend
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: went for your ladies.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Well, I thought on Thursday we were we were a
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: little tight, and I think, you know, a lot of
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: that came from, you know, the bulk of the bulk
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: of our production on our team last year were freshmen
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: and sophomores, and really, you know, what they came into
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: this year knowing was that they they definitely wanted to advance.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: I thought they tightened up a little bit on the
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: first day, and then during the off day, and as
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: we got ready to go into finals, you could feel
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: the air come out of the balloon, and they they
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: really their whole demeanor, the way they talked, the way
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: they were communicating with us, everything we did in team meetings,
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: and you know, in terms of messaging and and prep.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: From a mental standpoint, you could really feel like they
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: were they were in a great place and and I
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: was just, you know, I was just really proud of
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: the way they attacked that that final, that final session,
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: that final day, because it was it could have gone
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: any of any of a number of ways. And the
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: season started with number one and number two in a tie.
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: When we were out at the Sprouse Limitational. That abc
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: thing that happened in the first Men of the Year
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: and then it ended with a less than one tenth
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: deal with the same two teams. At the end, I
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: just felt like our team could not have done any
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: more than they did. And as a coach, really, you
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: you know, you you hope that you get to the
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: end of the year where you have no regrets yourself
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: and don't look back and think, well, I should have
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: prepared them the better, I should have done this differently,
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: I should have you and you want to watch your
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: team be able to feel the same way too, that
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: they that they put it all out there. And that's
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: really all I was trying to communicate to them at
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: the end was that, yeah, we're disappointed. Of course we
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: wanted to win that thing, but particularly in a in
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: a sport that is driven so subjectively, you know, I
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: just didn't think our kids had anything to hang their
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: heads about. And just I'm as proud of that team
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: as I've been. I've been part of eight national titles
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: in my career and and I couldn't be more proud
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: of this one.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anybody, anybody that was able to lucky enough to
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: go to see your team compete this year at at
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: a gymnastics met or watch them on TV. I tell
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: you this weekend Thursday and Saturday, me and my girls
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: were locked in to everything. That was kinda coach like,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: you got so much to be proud of with this team,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: and like to me, it all you can tell a
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: special group about what happens when they're backs against the wall.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Once y'all did Thursday going into that final rotation down
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: in third place behind Florida and Georgia, I believe, and
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: y'all came back and absolutely crushed it and nailed it
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: on the floor to get in to the final national
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: championship meet. Like to me, spoke volumes to you your
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: program and specifically that chemistry of the girls.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: Well and we you know, we were kind of sleepwalking
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: midway through that meet. We were, you know, couldn't get
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: out of our own weight. And I think you see
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: that in sports a lot, you know, when when a
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: loss on the line, sometimes you know, nerves can get
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: the best of you. But really, you know, coming out
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: of balance being that day, Caitlyn Chio circled them up
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: and gave them one of the most emotionally charged tongue lashings.
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: You know that you could that you would ever hear
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: out of a little little voice like that, but I
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: thought it was it was great. They they really they
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: looked up at the scoreboard, they realized they were if
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: they would just get out of their way and be normal,
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: they were in a good spot. And you're right, we
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: lit it up on that last event, and particularly of
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: Mari Drayton and Khalia Lincoln and Kaitlyn chioh just you know,
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: finished out that rotation and really left no doubt that
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: we belonged in that final four.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this absolutely looked like powerhouses on the on the floor,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: which was a ton of fun to watch. And then
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: of course on Saturday, you come and you know, score
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: the second highest score in the NCAA Finals in program
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: history with an incredible formance. You know, you ran into
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: a one heck of a team in Oklahoma. So I
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: loved hearing what you said to your team. That's why
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: we kind of opened the sevent because, like I've seen that,
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: like your girls laid it on the line, and I
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: hope they are holding their head up high and knowing
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: that they did everything. And you just brought up kaylen
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Chio as well, first perfect ten in national championship history
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: for LSU's program. And what is I think thirteenth on
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: the sea, something like that.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, something like that. I don't meet you know, I've
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: rabble a. I'm like media always wants to talk about
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: all these things. But but you know, she, uh, she's unbelievable, really,
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: and you know, the level of consistency that that she
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: shows in no matter the circumstance has just been Uh,
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: it's been something amazing to watch. And I've been doing
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: this a long time. I don't know that I've ever
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: seen anything quite like it. But she she's incredible. The
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: kids did an amazing job. You know, they they've got
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: so much to be proud. We're disappointed. It's already fuel
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: in our fire. I had individual meetings with half the
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: team yesterday and you know, I think the we've got
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: twenty one of those twenty four routines returning uh next year,
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: and they're they're already talking about, uh, let's get ready.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: So you know, really, if you if you got to
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: find a silver lining to finish in second, you know
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: what second place can feel like sometimes. But it's it's uh,
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: the silver lining is that where the bulk of our
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: team is coming back, and I think it's just going
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: to drive them even further to to create a level
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: of excellence for themselves that even with this team as
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: great as they did in the fall, it took us
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: a little while to kind of find what that standard
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: was going to be. And once they did, they really
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: took off. And I think we'll have a much better
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: starting point with this group going into the next year.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, coach, that's where I was kind of going to
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: head next with you on kind of going forward looking
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: to next season. I know that you know it's only
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: a couple of days after the National Championship meet, so
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: you don't ever want to like turn the page too fast,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: because you do kind of want to, like, you got
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: to celebrate the good stuff.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: You got to celebrate.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: That's why we do it, right, That's why you work
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: so hard, is to celebrate a little bit and kind
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: of look back and reflect. But there's a job to do.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: You do have to get ready for next season. And
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: you talked about the amount of talent and returning and
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: core leadership that you got, But tell us about in
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: the gymnastics world, how you know, the ever changing landscape
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: of college athletics, how that kind of effects your program
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: and kind of how y'all are going to handle returners,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: high school Transfer portal, all that, all that stuff.
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: Well, yesterday was a crazy day, you know. We we
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: were we had just gotten back and all this stuff,
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: and I'm doing individual meetings with members of the team,
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: and Garrett's running into my office every five ten minutes
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: let me know something else is going on in the portal.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: And so we're we're so we're we're scheduling. We're scheduling
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: visits with potential transfers over the next couple of weeks
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: right now, and and got it. We're in a pretty
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: good spot with a couple of them and feel good
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: about you know, what we'll be able to add. But
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: the reality is is that you know, the core of
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: of of what we need is already here and uh
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: and and not going anywhere. So we're going to add
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: some pieces, just you know, to make sure that we've
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: got enough depth and that that we've got the the
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: insurance policy that we need should we run into some
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: health issues and things of that nature. But I really
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: like what we have coming back next year, and I
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: really like the tone and tenor of what they're saying
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: and how they're wanting to go into the summer. Certainly,
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: we've got to get a little time off unless some
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: bodies recover and that kind of thing. But I really
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: like where their head is right now. And as for us,
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: you just get back on the carousel. It doesn't stop.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: I mean, we are, like I said, we're already in
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: the portal will be. We've got our bank with Sunday,
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: and then we go on our planning our staff planning
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: retreat for three or four days where we look at
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: everything that our entire calendar, change our training up if
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: we feel we need to, based on what we know
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: from a health perspective of our team. We look at
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: everything from apparel contracts to fundraising efforts, to what we're
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: doing with nil and on and on and on, and
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: we'll spend three or four days working from that, and
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: then we get on the road and we're gone through
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: close to the end of May, and then I'll get
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: two weeks of vacation and then back at it again
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: starting in June. So it doesn't slow down a whole lot.
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: But I'm looking forward to getting over to the beach here.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: At the end of the month, the whole two weeks,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: a whole two weeks.
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I get over there. I will
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: get over there by my happy you know what, so
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: and sit and sometimes not even leave the neighborhood for
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: two weeks. I cannot wait, cannot wait.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Well, it'll be well deserved, because I can tell you, coach,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I don't envy any college coach right now in this
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: in this world, the amount that you'll have to juggle
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: and talk about and uh and it just seems like
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: every year a little bit more. It takes a it
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: takes a special person. And certainly we we're happy and
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: proud to have you leading leading the gymnastics team. And
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: we had doctor Stephen Ethertch here on the show a
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: little bit earlier this morning, and and I just want
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: you to know he talks about how absolutely tough your
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: team is, about the stress that they put on their
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: body each and every day, and uh, we and we've
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: come to the conclusion that the gymnasts are probably the
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: toughest athletes out there.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Would you agree with that?
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: I would? You know. I gotta be careful how how
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: loud I say that sometimes because it, you know, some
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: people have doesn't land too well with. But but I'm uh,
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: I know what doctor Ethrudge and doctor Fury had to
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: do just to get us through the weekend. You know,
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: it took every bit of their uh engineering, if you will,
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: to make sure that that that these some of these
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: kids could get through it. But yeah, they're tough. They're
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: tough as nails. They're tough mentally there that I've never
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: been around. Uh you know another sport where you have
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: to block out so much uh in those in those
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: moments of it's it's a lot more. It's a lot more.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: I tell this people. I may have said it to
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: you all before, it's a lot more to me, like
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Sunday at the Masters than than from a mental standpoint,
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: You've got to be locked in and you can't. You
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: can't let inthing intrude on that mindset that you have.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: And they're toughest nails, dude, They're way tougher than I am.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: I can guarantee that.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think way tougher than I am as well.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: So all right, coach, well, I know you've got a
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: lot of work to do and already focusing on next
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: season and maybe those two weeks of vacation, but like,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: let's take one last look back and if you have to,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: when you look back, when the dust settles and everything
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: a couple of years from now, ten years, twenty years,
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: whatever it is.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: When you look back at.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: This twenty twenty six team, how are you going to
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: think about them?
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Well, right now, I would put them there. There's been
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: until this year, there's been two teams in my career
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: that I really look back on in all. It was
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: a two thousand and five team when I was still
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: at Georgia that was freshman heavy, that went through a
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: losing streak in the middle of season, barely qualified to nationals,
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: and then won the whole thing. And the way they
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: went about doing it. I learned a lot about culture,
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: and I learned a lot about what it can mean,
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: no matter if it's coming from freshmen or upperclassmen, and
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: brought those lessons. That team really taught me a lot.
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: The twenty twenty three team here that did not win
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: but got to the finals in the face of ridiculous
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: adversity from an injury standpoint. We had kids competing in
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: events that they never dreamed they'd be doing when they
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: were here at LSU, and they were doing it for
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: the right reasons, and they were honoring each other with
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: their actions, which is something we talk about a lot
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: in our program. And then this year's team, So two
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: of those three did not win championships, but the way
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: they conducted themselves and the way they competed and the
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: way they went after it with a level of tenacity
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: and just refusal to die will always stick with me.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: Because there were a lot of things unknown going on,
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: you know, within our team from a you know, some
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: of it from a physical health standpoint that we had
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: to deal with that. You know, you don't put everything
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: out there in the public all the time, and you know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: I'm just proud of them. I'm just proud of the
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: way they conducted themselves. I'm proud of the way they
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: confronted issues when they needed to and held each other
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: accountable and did some really old fashioned good stuff that
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: you don't hear an awful lot anymore in today's generation,
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: where it's like, if I don't like it, I'm leaving.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: These kids got into trenches together and if they had
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: to argue or fight, they did it, but they handled
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: it in a way that was very adult like, and
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: they were able to get through any issue that came
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: their way because they were willing to do it for
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: a bigger purpose. And I couldn't be more proud of
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: this group. I just couldn't.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, coach, it certainly came through. And that's I think,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I hope I speak for all LSU fans of saying
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: we were proud to watch it as well. So we
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: appreciate your time, coach, and congrats on a fantastic season
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: and a fantastic team over there. So coach, we appreciate
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: the time this morning.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: All right, guys, thank you. I appreciate y'all having me on.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: All right, there he is, coach Jay Clark. You're a
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: coach for the LSU gymnastics team national runner up. Bye,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: less than a tenth and fantastic stuff from coach. As always,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: we want to thank him every single week that he
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: has joined us this season. So hey, looking forward ahead
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: and hopefully gets that much needed and much deserved a
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: little bit of time off. So let's go to break. Well,
• 42:24
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back here off the bench. We are
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  Speaker 3: closing out our number two time flies. When you are
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: having fun. Quinn, Londra, Cassie holding it down here. Lady
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Kane as well, she's also crushing it. I don't know
• 44:21
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• 44:27
  Speaker 7: She is a lady.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: She has a lady, and her name is Kane. I
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: want to thank coach Jay Clark last segment. He's awesome, man,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: he's great. Both both the Jays that both coaches, They're fantastic.
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Probably top two J's in the entire world.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to think, I mean, for sure at the top.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: I don't want. I gotta think of some other jas.
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: Before I think the top two.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Before I pinned in Janet Jay Lenno. No, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's pretty pretty cool.
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  Speaker 8: I guess he's kind of fallen off after he got
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess.
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  Speaker 7: So the hill that he tried to say he rolled
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't really, I'm not too familiar with that story.
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  Speaker 8: Rumor has it that he got beat up by the mafia.
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: What about Jay z Okay I can get behind jay Z,
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: but like I still in my opinion, Jay Johnson and
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: J Clark are top two.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I gotta agree with you. I just
• 45:38
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• 45:41
  Speaker 3: No jay Z, Jay Leno, Jay Farrow, J Farrow, who's
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• 45:51
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, he does impressions, Okay, yeah yeah.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: J Johnson, J Clark top Jason top, jay Z third place.
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, or we could do one A one B Jay
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: Johnson and J Clark and then Z.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, they just hold the first and second places in
• 46:13
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