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Jurickson Profar Beef · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. Welcome back to the Three O Take
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presented by C Kick. This is episode 445.
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I'll be your host, Kyle Corden. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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Reyes. Nate.
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Howdy folks, how we doing on this fine, beautiful middle of
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the week podcast? I was doing some thinking today
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and had the thought that it's been a minute since I reminded
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folks of why I look the way that I look.
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And I don't just mean generally speaking.
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We could use an explanation there as well, but that's OK.
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I in, in regards to what I'm wearing, 'cause I, when I, when
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I was going back looking at some, some old video from like
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the past month, 'cause I was just sifting through some files.
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I, I saw the thumbnails of like our last, I don't know, eight
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episodes and they all look the same because it's just me in
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this hideous Oakland A's polo and visor.
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And I was like, man, it's been a minute since I've explained why
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I'm wearing what I'm wearing. Because I'm getting to the point
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where I'm, I'm starting to think that the people that are seeing
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our clips on social and seeing our post, they're going, why,
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why, what's up with this guy? Does he have, like, is he have a
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screw loose? Maybe like, why is he so
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infatuated with the A's? It's not, it's not the case.
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As a reminder in case you're new.
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First of all, welcome. Second of all, I can subscribe
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on our YouTube. Get that done.
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Get. Just get that out of the way.
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Yeah, just get that done out of the way.
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Third of all, third ZS. Third.
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Thirdly, lost a bet, Lost a bet to Nate regarding the Oakland
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A's performance. I thought they were going to do
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better than they did over a certain call it two week span.
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They didn't do as well as I thought they would.
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They were hot at the time and then just fell flat on their
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face over that 14 game period. Which brings us here, yellow
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polo, green visor. There you have it.
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I just need to remind everyone because didn't want, didn't want
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people thinking that again had a screw loose because I don't.
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Well, maybe that's up for debate.
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You may have your own thoughts on that.
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I I would like to think that I don't, or at least I'm if I'm
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close, I'm not there yet, but simply because of a bet.
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The screws are loosening. My favorite comments, by the
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way, are when people, anytime you have like a comment about
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another team and then there's one comment that's like, says
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the guy in Oakland A's stuff. I love that.
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I love those. Like you're not allowed to have
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an opinion on other. Teams.
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Yeah. Like, I've, I've never
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understood that. I've never understood that.
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God forbid a fan of a team has an opinion about something else
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in the league that he's watching.
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Love those, love those. I can't.
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Do we have any smell coming yet? No, no smell dude, no.
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I may even auction this thing off at the end of it the.
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Game the game Worn gold gold athletics, polo.
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Send it to the hall. Yeah, forget an auction, I don't
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need the money. I'll send it to the hall.
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It's true. I like that plan.
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I like that plan. Speaking of the Hall, is Jerks
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and Profar gonna make the Hall of Fame on this season alone?
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I mean on track. My goodness, Jerks and Profar,
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have a day. Have a have a season.
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Have back-to-back seasons Did well last year?
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No. But to this level, let me check
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I'm so I'm so fixated on this year.
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I, I maybe have lost sight of of how well he did last year.
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He had I hit, let's see, I had 9 bombs hit 242 San.
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He he did well in San Diego, though the short stint at the
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end of the year there. Maybe that's what I was
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thinking. Of hit 295, yeah, I think that's
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what you're thinking. Like right there.
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OPS plus 116 loves it in San Diego, loves it slam Diego.
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You could say some some have, but this beef man, I mean, I
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didn't think that I I I would have thought I I know.
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First of all, let me say this. I know the Nationals take a
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really, really, really long time to get over over things.
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The fans specifically, not not necessarily the organization,
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but they take a really, really, really long time to get over
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things. And when I saw it like the first
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second I see that the Nationals and Padres are are clearing
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benches. My first thought is these two
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organizations are still are are still upset that they let Juan
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Soto walk out the door. I'm going.
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Well, that seems a little silly to be clearing benches.
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Over. Yeah, yeah.
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I mean behind closed doors. Yeah, or maybe over e-mail,
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like, hey, let's let's let's get together one time, one of these
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days. Coming up, we can share our
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thoughts and feelings about how much we miss one of the greatest
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players in baseball right now. That's fine.
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No need to clear benches. You know that.
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No need for that. Let's be gentleman here.
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But on a more serious note, you come to find out that Jerks and
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Profar was at the center of a lot of drama, lot of drama.
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So I believe we take this back. Let's rewind here.
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We go back to Monday, Monday night.
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I believe the game, first game of the series was Yeah.
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That was the walk off. Yep, Monday night they
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intentionally walk Luis Soraas to get to jerks and profile,
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which I don't know, I mean those guys.
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On. Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting
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decision and I know, I know we can sit here and play the
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hindsight game all we want, but it's it's not a it's not like
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you're walking pro far or it's not like you're walking walking
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arise to get to a scrub. I mean, we just talked about it.
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I get. That I don't know.
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We, we don't, I don't know the scouting report, you know what I
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mean? They have they have every number
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of every match up and and situation and and it probably
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made sense on paper. Yeah, I don't know.
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I mean, it, it worked out. Profar walks it off to RBI
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single. They get the they get the win on
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Monday. Tuesday night is when things got
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a little little testy, little heated, gets into a little bit
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with Nationals catcher Keep it Marie's, which I don't.
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Start the game. Yeah, like and and if you go
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back and watch the clip, Ruiz seems like he's Yeah, no,
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certainly. But it it seemed like he was
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being somewhat friendly about it, or at least that's what the
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IT had the appearance of. He's got the hand on the
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shoulder, got the pat. Chest.
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Yeah, that chest, Pat. Yeah.
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Like, I mean, we've seen stuff like that before.
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So that happens. They they go back and forth a
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little bit. Didn't look like Profar was
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saying much. But then where things seemed to
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escalate was when Manny Machado walks over and starts to
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separate the two. But what's interesting is if you
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go back and watch the clip, even when even when the when Ruiz and
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Profar start to like, you know, back up, people start pulling
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them apart. Machado, Machado doesn't seem
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like he's, he's all that jacked up in in the moment.
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Like he he kind of pulls Profar away a little bit or Ruiz, I
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can't remember which one. He he separated, but in that
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moment he didn't look like he was all that fired up.
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So I'm going maybe this just escalated because you had the
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fans in the back getting lit. You had the, I'm sure at that
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point in time you had the players from the respective
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dugouts making their way out. So I'm going, maybe we could
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have avoided this, but alas, didn't work out that way.
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Things get a little heated and then the UMS issue the warnings
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and the Mackenzie Gore, who if you if you recall was in the
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Padres organization, which makes this a little more interesting,
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immediately hits profile in the foot.
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Now let me ask you. No, thank you.
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The foot. What are we doing?
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Like, look, I'd love Don Orsillo, and we're going to play
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the call here in just a SEC. If you haven't heard the call,
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it was incredible. Arguably one of the best
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commentators broadcasters in in all of baseball.
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Got to be top two. And he's not two.
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No, he's he's like top top three.
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Top three for sure, for sure. A lot of people would say #1
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that's probably my vote. Little bias there.
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But I mean, you'd be hard pressed to find somebody better
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than Don or so. But in the call and you'll hear
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it makes it, I don't know if he's just swept up in a moment.
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He he's saying how it's intentional.
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I think what's his name? Mudd.
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What is that his nickname Mudd something I can't remember his
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partner's name. I think he was saying that it he
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thought it was intentional or that it was like clear as day or
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something, something along those lines.
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But the Padres organization, at least from the forward facing
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side that we were made aware of, seemed to think it was
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intentional. I didn't think it was
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intentional. You hit the guy in the foot.
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If you're going to hit somebody, you're going probably waist up,
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you're going anywhere in like the middle third.
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You're going like thigh to letter on the on the chest.
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Yeah, I would say booty cheeks to the to the shoulders unless
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you're you're a little dirty. You know you would try.
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To which I I don't think I don't Mackenzie Gore doesn't give me
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that doesn't give me that impression.
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Like not at all. Just spotted it up poorly.
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You can see base off his reaction right away.
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Like no intent there. But it you know how these things
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go, it it doesn't matter in the moment what the intent is.
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Things can get fired up real fast and things things happened
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immediately. Machado.
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Well, first of all, SHIELD came out wondering why Gore didn't
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get it. Or yeah, no, he came out
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wondering what was. I'd have to go back and check
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the clip. Was he mad that Gore got Did
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Gore get tossed? I thought they just issued
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warnings 'cause he got a shell, got ejected.
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I don't remember. I don't remember what his what
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his issue was when he came out, but got ejected and Machado
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immediately hits A2. Run home, run.
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Nate, where'd you go? Where did Nate go?
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Nate's video dropped. What the heck?
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Nate? Nate, come back.
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Hello, Nate. All right, Well, well, Nate
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figures that out. I'm going to play this.
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I'm going to play this call from Orsillo on the Machado home run
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because like we were just talking about possibly the call
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of the year thus far, but it's it's just another day for Don
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Orsilla. But check the check out this
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call and Manny Machado so they can make a pay.
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Tie your eye a deep black film breaker back at the wall.
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Take that, says Mana Machado. Profar's fired up, but he should
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be. They hit him intentionally, and
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then Mana hits one out of the yard intentionally, and the
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Padres take it to nothing. League.
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How about them apples? I mean, what a call, Nate, Where
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did you go, dude? What just happened?
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Nate, There you are. Don't know where you went.
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Where I. Went Where'd you go?
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I've been here the whole time. I just played the call, the
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chat, the chats, talking about it.
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I don't know where you went. You disappeared and then it said
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something went wrong. So I went back into the studio
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and then your thing was not there.
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It's just said no devices connected for you.
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And I was like, well, I'm not going to enter the stage and
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come back to nothing. And then it kicked me out again,
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and then I came back in, and now you're here, all right?
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Full, full transparency. We made an upgrade to our
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planned or software that we use and it might it it might be
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demanding a little bit more bandwidth.
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So apologize for some for some of these technical issues.
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If it happens again, I'm just going to keep talking and Nate
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will just have to figure it out the way he did.
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I'm hard wired in. I don't even understand.
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I I don't know, it doesn't make any sense.
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How about we just you, I don't know if did you catch the call?
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It's doesn't sound like you caught the call.
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I know I probably the second you played it I got kicked out.
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It was so good. I want to play it again just so
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you can catch it. Here we go.
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And Manny Machado so they can make a pay high ride.
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Deep blood film Rinker back at the wall.
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Take that, says Manny Machado profile's fired up, but he
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should be. They hit him intentionally and
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then Manny hits one out of the yard intentionally and the
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Padres take it to nothing. Leave.
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How about them apples? I'm so on the fence about being
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a Homer while you're a broadcaster.
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Like I'm so on the fence about it.
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I would I would probably lean towards wanting.
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I think I'm OK with it because like if you think of majority of
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the listeners are going to be a fan of that team.
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And when the team's doing well, I'm not trying to have you play
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like a middle of the road. Like, no, get fired up with me.
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Like, I mean, be tasteful about it.
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Just don't, don't be like freaking clown.
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And I forget the guy's name in Chicago.
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Like for all the haters. Like no, like that was just
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corny. Like a drunken fret fret,
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brother. Keep it, keep it tasteful, get
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fired up, but don't act like an idiot.
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But yeah, the the intentional comment I thought was a little
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much. I didn't, I didn't think it was
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intentional. But then later in the game he
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Profar hits a Grand Slam. So I don't know what it is about
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these catchers that Profar just gets fired up by.
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But is this his new? Is this his new like arc story
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like profile versus the catchers?
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I I I don't understand why this is becoming a theme.
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It's. Funny, because he always looks
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innocent. Yeah, like he it looks like he's
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not really talking anything. Like.
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I don't know. No, in that interaction he had
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with Ruiz, he was just kind of like, he was just chilling,
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like, all right, well. The the trot was for sure slower
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on the Grand Slam for sure slower.
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It took a little while to get to first base, but I'm here for it.
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I liked all of it. I don't know.
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You know how I feel about these brawls and benches clearing.
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It's like it's, I don't know. Yeah, but then.
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But then you had Davy Martinez coming out after the game being
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like, yeah, it's a good way to send a message, but that's our
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way of letting him know we don't tolerate it or something like
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that. I'm like baby, come on, like.
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And it's just it's. I I just think the game is at a
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point now we're like, we're past the point of being able to
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really have commentary on this whole like let the kids play
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narrative like it is what it is at this point.
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There's no like it's. Fully taken over.
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So it's really not even worth these guys time, IE Davy
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Martinez to get upset by certain reactions or whatever because
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you're just going to, regardless how you, the listener may feel
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about it. These guys are going to come out
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looking like sore losers Anytime they open their mouth, whether
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whether or not there's validity to what they're saying, they're
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going to look like sore losers because the automatic reaction
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is we're like, oh, don't lose the game or don't throw one down
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the middle. It's like, yes, those things can
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be true, but also from a guy like Davey Martinez point of
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view, you can still have an appreciation and respect for the
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game and want there to be like some sort of, you know, like
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which sort of standard. We're in this weird transition
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period, man, where they're still like the old, old school
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mentalities that are very much a part of the game, more so
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amongst coaches than players. But that mentality is for sure
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still in in the picture. So I don't know.
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I mean, maybe we can have this conversation 1520 years down the
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road when the pod's rolling still and and maybe things will
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change a little bit. But what?
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That's what I'm saying because these guys are just
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automatically going to look like sore losers anytime they open
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their mouth. My my thought is to just lean
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into it hard. Like let the game cave in on
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itself so bad. Like let the game eat itself
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with this whole with this narrative and people not caring
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about other people's feelings but then also like getting
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offended when their feelings get hurt.
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Like have guys. It's going to cycle back.
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It will cycle back, I said. I said years ago I was like,
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we're or not even. It was maybe like a year, a year
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or two ago. I said we're literally going to
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get to a point where guys are going to start pulling their
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pants down like when they cross, when they cross home, home
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plate. Well, I just, I just watched a
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video on social the other day where it was like it was like
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the. Like high school seven on sevens
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for football and the receiver catches the touchdowns like a 40
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yard bomb corner of the end zone and doesn't celebrate and all
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the comments are like no celebration, so cold.
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And I'm like, that's. That's literally what the game
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was for like 100 years, but it's alright.
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So that's what's going to start. Yeah.
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It's going to just cycle backward.
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That goes harder than than actual celebration.
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Acting like he's been there before.
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Flame emoji, flame emoji, flame emoji.
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It's like, OK, Yep, that's there.
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We are where, where we were at. That's what we were trying to,
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you know, kind of keep around but.
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Stupid I I appreciate every single one of you listeners and
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followers and I apologize if this comes off in the wrong way,
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but I the generation below us sucks.
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OK. Sucks.
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Wow. Well.
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Sucks. You know, they're doing some
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good things in the world. The only, the only, the only
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real complaint I have, and I didn't think we'd get off the
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rails this much. The only complaint I have about
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the generation below us is the pajamas in public thing.
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Like it's out of, it's out of. It's way out of hand.
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Like I don't understand that at all.
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Like it could be, it could be our grandparents doing that.
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And I'd be like, whoa, like, chill out.
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Do you know that the mid calf socks are back?
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They are. They are if you wear if you wear
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ankle socks, you're for sure a millennial.
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I'm. Super conscious of that now
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dude. I I.
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I wore mid calfs in high school. That that was the thing in high
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school. So don't.
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That's what. I can't pull on this string
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anymore. Sweater will become undone.
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Can't do it. Let's talk, let's talk the
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National League wild card race, because I mean, what even is
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this hodgepodge? And I say National League wild
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card, but really, if you look at it, if you look at the American
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League, All right, so, so bear with me here.
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With the National League, you've got the top three seeds right
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now, Braves, Padres, Cardinals, Cardinals.
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Where do the Cardinals come from?
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It's been hot, dude. And then you have all but two
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teams at the bottom 2, the Miami Marlins, Colorado Rockies,
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they're out of it. We already knew that.
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The Reds entering entering, we'll say Wednesday, entering
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Wednesday, four games back, Cubs four games back.
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Nats three games back, Giants three games back, Pirates two
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games back. Mets 1 1/2 games back.
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D backs, 1 1/2 games back. There's been a lot of talk about
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the National League wild card, but again, flip over to the
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American League. All but all but three.
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And, and I have my own opinions about the Blue Jays.
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I think they're probably along the same lines as yours
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regarding the outlook for that, for their squad.
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But if you what, just based on numbers, if you want to say the
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Blue Jays at 6 1/2 back are still in it, they only have one
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less team in it. So really, there's only five
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teams in baseball right now that are like DOA.
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Yeah. If that's what like if, if
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that's what we're looking at, if we're looking at the full slate
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of 30 teams, you got 5. She's talking Angels, A's, White
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Sox, Marlins, Rockies. That's it.
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Dead. Dead in the water.
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Everybody else scratching and clawing.
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Scratching and clawing. I like that.
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I think we all like that. Do we though?
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Do we, do we like that? Because the Blue Jays, as I
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mentioned, the aforementioned Jays who are on a bit of a
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slide, I think we can pretty much say done.
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But again, we'll just go off of what's on paper right now. 6 1/2
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games back, 36 and 43, flip over to the National League, the Reds
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37 and 43. So like, yes, it's good, but is
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it good? The American League is super top
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heavy, whereas the National League is is more just like
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balanced overall. You know what I mean?
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Like there's all these teams are hovering around 500, if you want
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to call that good or not, I don't know.
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But the American League is for sure more top heavy.
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Yeah. But just like looking at the
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National League though, we're the teams that are we'll just
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say under the line, like out on the outside looking in, it's
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like the Pirate, like the Mets, the D backs.
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I guess I'm just going to give them their respect for based on
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the way last year ended and you know what they're able to
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accomplish. I'm going to maybe I'll give
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them a pass. But like after them, what are we
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really looking at here? The Mets, the Pirates, the
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Giants, the Nationals, the Cubs, the Reds, and I know I just
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listed off like half the league, but none of those teams are
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playing all that inspiring baseball.
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Like, sure, the Mets are what, eight and two in their last 10?
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So I mean, like they're playing well, but we know how this how
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that story ends. So I'm not even going to.
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I'm not even going to pull at that thread.
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Yeah. But other than that, it's like,
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yeah, maybe it's not as top heavy as the American League,
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but. I'm not saying it's better
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baseball by any means. I don't.
26:09
I don't think that's not the. Argument here.
26:12
Yeah, objectively it's just not. I mean, the American League this
26:15
year at least, is yeah, I would argue just.
26:19
I don't here's why I say it's a good thing though is because
26:22
like the Diamondbacks were a fun story that the the that was a
26:30
fun run that everyone got to witness through the post season.
26:33
It was, but you remember how that ended up in in October?
26:36
Like, not not. None of us were excited, really.
26:41
Yeah, I mean, I understand that. I think it's the right team, you
26:45
know what I mean? Like if you can get the right
26:46
team in that spot where it's like everyone can kind of gather
26:51
around and and root for. It's hard to say.
26:55
I think we had our own our own reasoning behind not being
26:59
excited. True.
27:03
But this is this is what it is now.
27:06
This is, it's like a, it's such a quantified game where it's
27:13
like everything is so calculated to where all you got to do is
27:18
get in and we'll see what happens.
27:21
And it's like this balance of spending a reasonable amount of
27:28
money and, and just finding a way to sneak in and see what the
27:34
players can do at that point. Like that is the new formula.
27:39
If we can, if we can do our best in scouting, if we can do our
27:43
best in analytics and we can win 8788 games and find a way in, we
27:51
like our chances versus spending another hundred $120 million on
27:57
payroll and having that pressure of being the the bigger
28:02
disappointment if you don't win a ring and we're witnessing it
28:07
with multiple teams. You know what I mean?
28:09
Like it's it's year over year of this thing.
28:12
The Mets being one of the biggest disappointments, but
28:15
that's because of the size of their payroll.
28:17
That's the size of their like what they're invested into their
28:20
roster. So I don't I don't know what's
28:24
good for baseball. I I think it's you're, you're
28:27
going to see more teams being able to do focus on this and
28:31
keep the payroll in a manageable spot.
28:34
And now you're hearing these big market teams saying, well, this
28:39
isn't sustainable. We need to drop our payroll down
28:41
and get, you know what I mean? So it's like it's this weird
28:46
limbo that we're in. Then that's this is the result.
28:52
You're going to have a lot of teams that are kind of in the
28:54
hunt and it's just get in and hope for the best.
29:02
Just tread water as long as you can.
29:05
But I, I just think, and we've talked about this on multiple
29:08
occasions, but it's worth repeating because we're, we're
29:12
quickly approaching the deadline.
29:14
I just think with the, and this isn't new, like this isn't the
29:19
first year of an expanded postseason.
29:21
So this isn't the first time we're seeing this.
29:23
But I think as a reminder with the expanded postseason and it
29:29
based on the the small sample size we have thus far seen how
29:33
teams approach it about teams that are on the brink like how
29:38
they behave with their with their farm and and and seeking
29:44
an impact piece to add. I just don't, I'm not saying
29:50
that there's going to be like a lead league wide collusion, but
29:55
I would venture to say because I feel like more than not, these
30:02
owners are going to be looking to save money or maybe not save
30:08
money, but rather just not spend it.
30:12
With that said, I would my guess is that these teams are going to
30:17
as, as teams like the D backs get into the World Series, like
30:23
as long as we have stories like this, these middle of the road
30:27
on the on the fence teams are going to be looking around
30:29
going, Hey, if we all just kind of sit back and just let this
30:35
play out and we all just kind of keep our wallets in our back
30:38
pockets, we can all save a little bit of money as long as
30:43
nobody jumps out ahead. Like we got to make sure that
30:46
these teams on the fences are all on the same page here.
30:51
If we all just sit back, we can save a buck and just let it play
30:55
out and be and be competitive with what we've got.
30:58
Yeah, and that's the problem of of the structure.
31:01
That's what this structure has brought in when you expanded the
31:05
playoffs. It it allowed teams to do, I'm
31:09
not going to say the bare minimum, but it allowed owners
31:12
to be like, well, we're still going to get in and I can save
31:18
some money here. It sucks.
31:22
It does. Suck.
31:22
Now that I'm talking it out more, I think I hate it.
31:25
Yeah, but. And, and that was the thing.
31:27
That was the thing when they when Major League Baseball
31:29
announced that they were expanding the post season, the
31:32
the two, the two schools of thought were well more teams are
31:37
going to be able to make that push at the deadline and make
31:40
that push down down the stretch as as October nears.
31:46
The other school of thought was what we're just talking about.
31:49
Well, now that there's a better likelihood of getting in,
31:54
probably not going to try to do as much because the odds of you
31:57
getting in are higher because they added an additional 2
32:00
spots. Right, but the other the other
32:04
thing is, is that like we've now started to notice a trend where
32:07
it's not that much of an advantage for a team to win the
32:11
division and and have, you know, a week off.
32:15
We've noticed that like the a hotter team at the end of
32:18
September, rolling into October, getting into a divisions or a
32:22
wild card spot and staying hot. And like, you know, baseball is
32:26
not the same as the NFL. Like you don't like letting guys
32:30
get healthy is is one thing, but you're going to lose momentum.
32:34
You're going to lose grooves where you're used to playing
32:37
every day for six months. Why would taking a week off
32:42
suddenly help you? So if there is anything that
32:46
needs to happen, it's restructuring what the advantage
32:51
is of winning a division because it's clear.
32:54
And I think numbers and analytics will eventually start
32:57
to back this up, that winning the division is no longer as
33:00
beneficial, especially when you're talking to owners who are
33:04
spending as much as they can spend to be a first round exit
33:10
by a team who spent $150 million less and just got hot at the
33:15
right time. Like that's what this structure
33:18
has done. That's what it's messed with.
33:20
So if there's a way, and I don't know the answer, but if there is
33:23
a way to change what that advantage is for winning a
33:27
division, then we might balance that back out.
33:34
But this is what you're going to get.
33:36
This is the product that you're going to get.
33:38
You're going to get basically 500 baseball by 60% of the
33:43
league throughout the regular season, which means most likely
33:49
lamer trade deadlines. You have a lot of teams that are
33:52
still thinking they're in the hunt, that they're not going to
33:54
sell. This is all the ripple effect of
33:58
of what that structure has done. Right.
34:02
And going back to the two schools of thought thing like it
34:04
was, it was really idealistic of us baseball fans to think or
34:10
maybe you could maybe even say naive to think that the owners
34:13
were going to take the first school of thought where it's all
34:16
right window just open a little bit wider.
34:18
Let's let's go all let's go even more in this year than we were
34:22
planning on it. It was naive of us to think that
34:25
that was going to happen because if you know how business works,
34:29
if you know how money works, if you know how these majority of
34:32
these owners work, of course they're going to look for every
34:39
possible way. Again, not all, but most are
34:42
going to look for a way, any loophole they can to make it so
34:45
that they they can hoard prospects.
34:48
They don't have to make any sort of deal, any sort of risky deal
34:52
and they don't have to spend any money in the offseason because
34:55
as long as the window is what or now that the window is wider,
35:00
they're going to, they're going to defer to, well, let's just
35:05
let's just roll the dice and see what happens with what we got
35:07
because our, again, our odds of getting in are that much higher,
35:11
but they got higher without, without us having to do anything
35:16
or without us needing to do anything at say the deadline.
35:19
So. Yeah, that's a bummer.
35:23
Yeah, it's like it's such AII understand it's a pessimistic
35:27
way of looking at it, but it that's the reality of it.
35:30
And I think the product of what we're going to see on on the
35:34
field is going to suffer as a result.
35:36
Kind of like like what you and I are saying here, but I don't
35:40
know, I just need you're going to have your teams that are
35:43
competitive year in and year out, but I'm just going to need
35:47
the teams that do make it into the wild card.
35:49
Like I at the very least, I just need it to be good baseball.
35:53
I needed to be competitive baseball.
35:54
Whether or not they're a good team.
35:58
There's only so much we can do to to to work around that.
36:02
But I just hope they get hot at the right time and it makes for
36:06
an interesting fall. At the very least, that's all we
36:09
can really ask for. So I don't know, it's again
36:14
looking. Fall.
36:15
Fall is in autumn, not fall is in crash.
36:18
Correct. Correct.
36:19
Correct. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:20
Postseason era of of the season, yes.
36:27
All right, well, we got to talk about some dudes that are
36:32
straight up bowling. But before we do that, do we
36:38
want to maybe take a little bit of a game break here?
36:41
Game Break. And maybe sprinkling that, that
36:43
game you mentioned last episode of A Little Bit of Land.
36:48
I don't know. I don't know what we want to
36:50
call it. I don't know if there's a name
36:51
for it, but it's the whole. And if you're listening or
36:55
watching, I'm sure you've you've you're familiar with the game.
36:58
You start, you, you have a countdown, call it 3 seconds.
37:06
You share you, you, you share a name.
37:08
More likely than not, you're going to end up on two
37:11
completely different ends of the spectrum with with the name, but
37:14
you. You.
37:15
Got to figure out what's in common you.
37:17
Get on the same wavelength and figure out, OK, what is what do
37:23
these two guys have in common? And then once you name your next
37:27
guy, then you see if you can get closer or even name, name the
37:31
same guy. So that's the goal.
37:33
I figured we could try it, see how it goes, and then maybe keep
37:38
track of, you know, try to try to top our records by reducing
37:44
the number of rounds that it takes to to.
37:45
Get there. So this could be ugly in the
37:47
beginning here. It could be ugly.
37:53
I could. You just want me to.
37:56
You want me to hit the organ audio?
37:59
I don't think so. We just go 321 bang.
38:03
I know just little little background music.
38:05
I don't know. What do you think?
38:06
Oh well, yeah, yeah, but get the game music going on, I mean.
38:09
It's only 60 seconds. So I mean, do we think we can do
38:12
this in 60 seconds? Probably not.
38:15
Probably not. I could always play it again.
38:18
If we don't get it in 60 seconds, we could play it again.
38:20
There's no rules. There's no rules.
38:23
All right, so it'll be 321. Name the player.
38:30
OK, All right, 321 Aaron, Joe Hunter.
38:40
Oh boy. Oh.
38:43
Goodness. Oh boy. 321 Mickey Mantra.
38:50
I don't know. I panicked.
38:55
OK. Mickey Mantle, Mike Trout.
38:57
Oh, 3321. Willie Mays, Come on, you got to
39:09
say a name. Willie Mays, All right?
39:13
I have no idea. I have no idea.
39:16
I think you were going to say Mike Trout.
39:18
I you said Mike Trout. I said William.
39:20
I think you were going to say Mike Trout again at.
39:22
Least that's what it sounded like.
39:23
I, I stumbled. I stumbled, I choked.
39:25
It's, it's on me. This is why it's so hard.
39:28
It's for names. You know what I mean?
39:32
All right, well, we didn't we didn't beat the timer there, so
39:34
may have to run it back. All right, so you said Mike
39:36
Trout and Willie Mays. OK.
39:39
We'll go off that. We'll go off that.
39:40
We'll go off that. This is tough.
39:43
This is. Really tough.
39:44
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on.
39:45
Hold on, hold on. Let me get mine.
39:47
Let me get mine in order. OK.
39:52
What are they? You got to think of what they
39:53
have in common. You know what I mean?
39:59
I need you to get more modern. You're throwing some old.
40:01
Yeah, that's on me that. Really.
40:03
That really. That really hurts stuff, you
40:05
know? You said Mike Charleston, Willie
40:07
Mays. OK, OK all.
40:10
Right, 321 Chairman Judge. Oh man, we're not even in the
40:20
same stratosphere. Probably not.
40:24
Hold on. This timer's stressing me out,
40:27
man. I can't do this.
40:28
I don't. Think I like it, I don't.
40:30
Think I like it? Yeah, I got to.
40:31
I got to cut it. It's got my heart rate.
40:33
I got to cut it. It's.
40:35
Stressing me out, dude, I'm losing it over here.
40:39
I'm losing it. With Jim Hemmings and Aaron
40:41
Judge. I feel like we're not allowed to
40:46
think though. I feel like that's the the whole
40:48
like caveat to this game. I, I think you get, you give
40:52
yourself a couple seconds, you know what I mean, to gather and
40:55
at least get a name. That's fair.
41:00
OK, You said Jim Edmonds. I said Aaron Judge.
41:05
Oh boy, what is that with? Dude, I don't even know.
41:09
Absolutely nothing. They have nothing in common.
41:16
This is hard. Oh, OK, I got one.
41:19
You got one. All right, Yeah, people aren't
41:22
going to get this, but if you think about it, you might be
41:24
able to get it. It's not that hard.
41:27
Do you have a guy? Do you?
41:29
I have a guy. I don't think it makes any
41:30
sense. OK, 321 Ramon Laureano.
41:40
I don't even know Ramon Laureano from the clouds.
41:43
OK, Ramon Laureano and Jaron Duran we got.
41:46
Like we're, we're honed in on center fielders here.
41:48
I think we can get this well. We're going to name every center
41:51
fielder that's ever played the game by the time we're done with
41:54
this. It's possible, it's possible,
41:56
but we're getting into modern day now, getting into current I.
42:00
Suck at this dude. We're getting into current
42:05
zeroing in. Do you got a name?
42:13
I got a name. No, not around.
42:16
Maybe I don't have a name? Oh, oh, you got a name.
42:20
Oh, think, think, think. Ramon Laureano.
42:26
Jaron Duran. Think.
42:28
What do they have in common? Outside of center field.
42:34
Yes, OK, I I don't want to have to do this, but I got to give
42:41
you a hint here. Think teams, think teams played
42:43
for OK, OK, Ramon Laureano, Jaron Duran.
42:52
OK, you got a guy. I got a guy. 321 Cokie Henderson
43:02
Ah, OK, We're good. That was good.
43:04
We're good. We're we're getting there.
43:05
We're getting there. Because Ricky.
43:06
Ricky played for both. So did Coco.
43:08
Yep, Yep. We maybe got like two more
43:13
guesses because I feel like this is the closest we're going to
43:16
get. Oh boy.
43:22
Oh boy. Oh boy.
43:26
Ricky Henderson and Coco Crisp. I mean, you can't you we're
43:34
talking about. We're talking.
43:36
That's on me. I threw threw an oldie out there
43:38
and that that probably hurt us a little bit.
43:40
Coco's from the clouds though it.
43:42
Couldn't be? It's not, though.
43:43
It's the same reasoning. All right, all right, let's just
43:48
let's just think athleticism here.
43:51
I got a name. OK, I got a name.
43:54
Athleticism. Both both both guys have played
43:58
for a lot of teams. Let's let's that's factor that.
44:01
Oh, OK. 321 Kathy Bradley Junior Well, maybe not a lot, but a few
44:12
teams. OK, this got to be our last one
44:16
and then we're just going to have to punt to next next
44:19
episode. I think we got to have like 1010
44:22
or less, you know what I mean? Yeah.
44:25
That's fair, yeah. Moving forward, it's got to be
44:26
10 or less and then we just keep a running record.
44:29
Yeah, so Jackie Bradley and and who did I say you said Griffey.
44:36
Yeah, Jackie Bradley and Griffey.
44:39
Early Griffey athleticism, Maybe not on the latter end.
44:43
Jackie Bradley and Griffey, you got anything?
44:57
Dude, I got we have it. The closest I think we got was
45:00
Coco Crisp and Ricky Henderson, and that should tell you how
45:04
we're not really close at all. Yeah, that's true.
45:09
Who did who? Jackie Bradley.
45:12
And Griffey. This is this is over.
45:19
Dude, it's done. This has got This is our last
45:21
one we got to somehow. This is way too hard.
45:25
We somehow got to nail it on this one.
45:29
Griffey and Jackie Bradley Griffey and Jackie Bradley
45:35
Griffey. Junior, Bradley Junior.
45:41
I see what you're doing. I mean, I'm kind of kind of
45:44
lead. I see what you're doing leading
45:45
the horse to the water here. OK, let me find that name
45:47
though. Let me find that man.
45:50
Let me find him. OK, got it.
45:55
Got it. OK, Do we?
45:56
Have this. I think we got it.
45:58
I think we got it. This is big.
46:00
Is this from the clouds? Because mine's kind of from the
46:02
clouds. OK, Well then no, it's not big.
46:04
This is this isn't going to work.
46:06
Hold on, let me how much from the clouds are we talking?
46:11
Like clouds from the 90s? Come on, let's think of this,
46:15
Clouds center fielder Junior. Come on, come on.
46:22
This is an under the radar name. This There's a lot of listeners
46:27
that probably won't even be able to know this name, but you and
46:30
I. Didn't listen you?
46:34
Because this is what makes sense.
46:39
Junior center fielder, Am I losing my mind?
46:45
You are. But you said it's from the
46:48
clouds. What are we talking about here?
46:50
You'll you'll understand when I say it.
46:54
You said our listeners won't understand it, but you and I
46:56
will understand it. A.
46:58
A. A lot of listeners, so I'm not
46:59
going to say everybody some. Dude, I have no idea.
47:08
A center fielder, Junior. Well, it's not even, it's not
47:19
even the right answer, but I can't think of anybody else.
47:21
So I'm just going to say my guide and just see how off we
47:23
are because I can't think of a junior center fielder.
47:28
Count it down. Oh, this kills me 321 Gary
47:44
Matthews Junior. God knew it was something like
47:47
that, but I said he wasn't even a center fielder.
47:50
So I went Ronald Kunz Junior. That wasn't even really from the
47:52
clouds, but that was just find out wrong if we were going for
47:55
junior center fielder. Not a bad not a bad guess
47:57
though. But Gary Matthews Junior is for
47:58
sure a under the under the radar.
48:00
Why would you go that? I thought you, I thought you, I
48:04
thought you were there. I thought you your your archives
48:07
were a. Little deeper?
48:09
Yeah, apparently not. Apparently not I, if you
48:12
honestly, if you would have given me maybe just a couple
48:14
more minutes, I was that's that was the era that I was trying to
48:18
rack my brain on. I wasn't going back to like the
48:20
40s or. Anything late 90s, early 2000s.
48:23
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dang, that's a.
48:26
Shame. I think we'll hone this in
48:28
eventually. Oh yeah, we'll get, we'll get to
48:30
the the we'll get to the same. Way.
48:33
It's a tough one, though. That was good.
48:34
Way harder with players I think. That's that's tough.
48:37
That's real tough. OK, Speaking of players, let's
48:41
let's talk to some players. That's that's a nice little game
48:43
break. Game break?
48:45
What do we want to call that by the way?
48:49
I think it still falls into the category of name that player.
48:52
Name that player. OK, that's fair.
48:54
I like that. We're both just doing at the
48:56
same time. That's true.
48:58
I like Speaking of players, Brian Reynolds pretty good
49:03
entering Wednesday. Hold on, I need to confirm
49:06
because I saw conflicting reports.
49:08
Is it 22 or is it 23? I thought it got extended to 23
49:11
today. I thought it got extended to 23
49:13
as well, but let me just let me just check here because these
49:17
notes with the time that we record it's it can be a little
49:20
tricky at times based on when the game start, when we record,
49:24
when I get my notes. Games are still going. 23
49:30
consecutive games. That was 7 hours ago.
49:32
There we go. Yep, so 23 consecutive games,
49:39
the longest hit streak of the 2024 season to dates.
49:46
Not just this hitting streak dude.
49:48
Well, it coincidentally started We were talking about this
49:50
before we hopped on started at the beginning of June.
49:55
I saw a a post forgive me, I I don't remember who shared it so
49:59
I unfortunately I can't credit it, but you can search these
50:03
keywords and you can find it and they can bask in the glory.
50:07
Highest career June batting average since 1946 As it stands
50:14
right now, I think entering Wednesday has the highest career
50:19
batting average for June since 1946.
50:23
Three 47, topping Jackie Robinson's 346.
50:28
I understand we still have a handful of days left in the
50:31
month, but impressive to even be in that, in that realm.
50:35
You know who's third? I'm tired of guessing.
50:43
I don't know. I mean, take a guess.
50:47
Batting average King. King of batting average.
50:54
No. Just like Ted Williams?
50:56
No. What do you think about an
50:57
average? You think Elisa Rice?
50:59
No. I told you I was done guessing.
51:04
Come. On there's one guy that you
51:07
should know right now that you should be guessing Tony.
51:10
There we go 3rd 344 for Tony Gwynn.
51:13
That's a minimum of 400 ABS of course, in the month of June.
51:15
But talk about some, some company for Brian Reynolds.
51:19
He's having a heck of a month this month again, entered
51:25
Wednesday. He's hitting well, these stats
51:31
are a little Why does it say he has a 360 average this month if
51:36
I just said he's hitting 347? Did my man just go 5?
51:40
Oh, right, right. No, no, no, no, no.
51:41
The 340. That's right.
51:42
The 347 refers to his career average in June.
51:48
This year. In June, he's hitting 366 home
51:52
runs, 16 ribbies, 15 runs scored in 22 games entering today.
52:01
The unfortunate thing for Mr. Bryan Reynolds and I, I was
52:04
curious because I'm like, OK, we've see we see guys like this
52:08
just absolutely tear it up. How do they respond once the
52:11
calendar turns? He.
52:12
Has a terrible career. July doesn't.
52:14
He, Brian Reynolds, is a lifetime 232 hitter in the month
52:19
of July. So hopefully, for his sake and
52:22
for the Pirate's sake, as we mentioned, I mean, they're
52:25
technically in the hunt. They're only two games.
52:27
No, you know what? I'm going to remove the
52:29
technically. They're in the hunt.
52:30
They're. In the hunt.
52:32
According to this year, they are in the hunt.
52:34
At a whopping 39 and 41, they're two games back in the division
52:39
or in the wild card race, I should say.
52:43
So hopefully, for their sake, for the team's sake, he can
52:46
maybe ward off the July scaries and and keep this thing rolling.
52:51
Because wouldn't it be a sight to see the Pirates pushing it
52:58
down the stretch with Skins, with Jones, with Kelly?
53:01
It's true. It's true.
53:05
Don't make me do it. Oh no, this is normally playing
53:11
when you've. Ever.
53:11
No, I'm kidding. I'm just kidding.
53:13
I don't have a rant. I'm just excited for the Pirates
53:17
again. We need our mind you, of the
53:19
three of us, me, you and our good friend Ryan Ripken, I think
53:22
I was one of the only, I think I was the only one of the three to
53:28
have any sort of respect for the pirates.
53:29
So. I like what they're.
53:31
Doing I don't know how you sleep at night, but I.
53:33
Don't think they're there. I'm on record as as as being a
53:36
believer. For them to get there, Stephen
53:39
Quan Quan. Are we a believer in Stephen
53:45
Quan? Yes.
53:47
Yes. OK, so hear me out.
53:50
It was brought to my attention the other day what he's doing
53:55
outside of the batting average arena, like he's hitting 385
54:00
entering Wednesday. We know that he's just racking
54:04
up hits. We know that that's what he
54:06
does. But did you know he's slugging
54:12
563? He's got a he's got a ten O 6
54:15
OPS. Yeah, A187 OPS Plus and I get
54:21
it. I know, I know.
54:22
He's only had just over 200 ABS He's he missed How many?
54:28
What do you miss? Like 30 games or something
54:29
missed. 26. Yeah, good chunk of games, I get
54:33
that. But it's impressive nonetheless.
54:37
And if he can stay healthy the remainder of the year, it's
54:39
going to be it's going to be no different than any other season
54:42
we see from a guy that misses this is a a a little chunk of
54:46
time so. Yeah, I mean, I I saw that there
54:52
there was like a philosophy change with the Guardians and
54:56
they were talking to him about just adding some more velocity
55:02
to his swing, like trying to swing harder and and less of
55:08
like trying to just put the ball in play.
55:11
Let's just like actually hit like let's actually let it eat.
55:16
So the launch angle has gone up. The balls that he's squaring up
55:20
have gone up. Obviously ball in the air is is
55:24
starting to become more of a thing.
55:26
And what's insane to me, which doesn't even make sense, is that
55:31
his strikeout numbers are going down.
55:34
He's striking out less. How does that work?
55:40
How does that I think he, I think I saw he's striking out at
55:43
a 6% clip compared to a nine percent last year.
55:49
He's got a 94.8% contact rate. There you go, 6%.
55:54
That's stupid. That's a stupid thing that
55:58
doesn't make sense. How are you allowed to start
56:01
swinging harder, start trying to lift the ball more?
56:06
And your numbers are getting better, then your strikeout
56:10
numbers are going down. What a robot.
56:16
Is this, and I'm asking you this because you've like you've
56:21
worked with hitters you've worked with like the mechanics
56:23
of, of swings and, and this and that.
56:27
Do we think for a guy like Stephen Quan that this is this
56:32
is him maybe unlocking what was within or do we think that this
56:39
is him just changing approach and it just happens to be
56:43
working really, really well? Like, do we think Stephen Quan
56:46
was, was this guy that just had this power the whole time, but
56:50
up until this point, he was just so focused on bat to ball,
56:54
contact, contact, contact? I think it's approach because
56:59
like we, we heard all the stories about like Ichiro, like
57:06
anyone that played with Ichiro was like when he took BP, he
57:09
could leave the yard whenever he wanted, whenever he wanted.
57:14
People talked about if he, if Ichiro was in the Home Run
57:17
Derby, he would win because he's got like this like like smaller
57:23
athletic energy that just seems to be limitless.
57:27
And then he's able to access this like extra tank of power.
57:34
But I think it is approach his barrel percentage for Quan that
57:38
is is up from 1.1% last year up to 2.1, which is still it's
57:44
still below league average by the way.
57:47
So like I'm just saying it's climbing for him.
57:51
The exit velocity is not great. Like the league average exit
57:55
velocity is 88.5. He's at 86.
58:00
So it's not like, and he's suddenly become more powerful,
58:06
but he started to figure out that approach a little bit more.
58:10
His launch angle has gone up from 10% to 13% and the numbers
58:14
are going with it. The expected batting average
58:16
from last year was 282. It's now at 3:30.
58:20
So it's just the way he's going about his ABS, it's the way
58:29
it's, I don't understand this. It just it's most of these are
58:34
contradictory. When one goes up, the other goes
58:37
down. It's crazy to see that both are
58:40
going up at the same time. I really don't get that.
58:47
I was trying to find, I think he started to, it was in his in the
58:53
zone contact. The chase percentage this year,
59:00
here's where it was, the chase percentage last year was 21%.
59:05
It's down now down to 18%. So he's chasing less.
59:08
But here's what's crazy, the chase contact percentage, so
59:13
this is swinging at a ball outside of the zone and making
59:16
contact was at 72% last year. It's up to 82% this year.
59:23
So now we're talking about plate coverage.
59:27
Now we're talking about squaring baseballs up more often and and
59:33
swinging more often. And that's what the guardians
59:36
have asked him to do. Let's let you eat more and we'll
59:41
accept the consequences of more strikeouts.
59:44
I don't think they knew that he was going to start striking out
59:47
less. Well, that chase sense.
59:50
That chase contact percentage you're talking about is
59:52
interesting because I would you, you would have to imagine that
59:56
that does wonders for your confidence when you're able to
1:00:00
make contact out of the zone you're going.
1:00:04
I'm having to reach for this and I'm still doing what I'm doing
1:00:09
when it's in the zone. Everyone in this stadium knows I
1:00:14
can hit for contact, but now that I've changed my approach,
1:00:18
I'm going to eat like that. The This kid's confidence right
1:00:22
now just has to be. Through the roof right now.
1:00:25
I mean, he's hitting in the zone, out of the zone, just
1:00:28
everything. Again, just for perspective, the
1:00:31
league average for with percentage is 24%.
1:00:36
He is at 5% this year. That's disgusting.
1:00:41
Like the bats of ball skills. It went from I'm just never
1:00:46
going to strike out and I'm OK hitting a weak contact round
1:00:50
ball to now you're lifting the ball, now you're hitting it out
1:00:56
of the yard. Now your your slug is going up
1:01:00
and it's like and you're swinging more often.
1:01:04
I don't understand. This doesn't make sense.
1:01:07
You said 5% with rate. 5% with rate.
1:01:12
In today's game. Where the league average is 24%.
1:01:18
With the arms that these guys are seeing every single night,
1:01:24
pitching is better arguably than it's ever been, more
1:01:28
challenging, more. But there's more deceit, There's
1:01:36
more manipulation of these balls.
1:01:38
Like the the fact that 5%, I cannot wrap my head around that.
1:01:45
Yeah, also, I see this video not to.
1:01:49
I'm not going to. I'm not definitely not going to
1:01:51
take any way anything away from what Kwan's doing, but I sent
1:01:55
you this video. I'm not going to dive into it
1:01:58
too deep. People need to check out what
1:02:01
the offensive numbers have done in Cleveland.
1:02:05
The wind tunnels. Apparently they removed a
1:02:08
section of the stadium that is open things up.
1:02:13
It was the, IT was the shipping containers up in right field
1:02:19
where apparently, and I'd have to look deeper into this.
1:02:22
I again, well documented on this podcast, I'm a big conspiracy
1:02:26
guy. I, I can't say that I'm fully on
1:02:29
board yet 'cause I don't know enough.
1:02:30
So I'm going to be a, I'm going to be a reasonable conspiracy
1:02:33
guy here. I'm not going to go unhinged.
1:02:36
But from the little that I've seen, it's interesting.
1:02:39
You remove the shipping containers, you, you allow that
1:02:42
airflow, whereas previously when those shipping containers were
1:02:45
there, you're obviously prohibiting that from happening.
1:02:50
It's interesting. Everyone called very
1:02:52
interesting. Here's The thing is that they
1:02:53
went from like bottom 3, not bottom third, like bottom 3IN
1:02:58
offensive production in Cleveland last year to like top
1:03:03
five this year. But everyone called me crazy
1:03:08
because everyone's no one talks about the short porch in New
1:03:10
York in the old stadium. No one talked about it.
1:03:15
And I've said to everyone the dimensions are the same as far
1:03:20
as outfield goes. They brought in the backstop,
1:03:21
obviously, but the dimensions are the same in New York as the
1:03:25
last stadium. But the concourse is being more
1:03:29
open, letting more wind in has just pushed numbers through the
1:03:34
roof. You're see you're going to see
1:03:37
this more often. One of my good friend Brett, you
1:03:41
met Brett. He was on way back.
1:03:43
Please don't go back and listen back then, but he was in early,
1:03:47
early with us on a podcast. He played at ASU.
1:03:50
He's played in the big leagues for 6-7 years.
1:03:53
He talked about how Houston would all their AC would blow
1:03:59
out. In Houston, when the AC turned
1:04:03
on and the roof was closed, everything was blowing out to
1:04:06
center field. There's little things that
1:04:11
stadiums do that I don't think fans pay attention to.
1:04:14
And the removal of these shipping crates has absolutely
1:04:18
opened up doors for Cleveland. Well, I would be interested to
1:04:21
see like, sure, we can look at Cleveland's offensive numbers as
1:04:25
a whole, but I would be interested to see like what the
1:04:28
offense offensive production like per game like over the
1:04:33
course of the season to or like year to date basically of both
1:04:38
teams. Because.
1:04:39
Yeah, I would. You would have a lot, I feel
1:04:42
like a lot more evidence to stand on, a lot more ground to
1:04:44
stand on. If you can look at it being
1:04:46
like, OK, this isn't just like a weird Cleveland thing.
1:04:48
This is like just across the board.
1:04:53
It's improving offensive output with the elimination of the
1:04:56
shipping containers. It's interesting, very
1:04:59
interesting. But again, not to take away from
1:05:02
what Quan's doing, because Quan, this is stupid.
1:05:04
This is stupid. It doesn't make any sense.
1:05:11
It's crazy that it's like it's literally like a picture saying
1:05:14
I'm going to throw like I I'm going to, I throw 102, but I'm
1:05:18
going to try and throw 96 instead.
1:05:21
And they start getting more strikeouts like you, you.
1:05:25
These numbers are not supposed to go up and down at the same
1:05:28
time. One is the opposite.
1:05:29
What he's doing is ridiculous. It's crazy.
1:05:35
Let's switch gears here just very briefly, because I think
1:05:39
when I put these in our notes for the for the rundown, I I
1:05:44
feel I recall the conversation we had recently about Louise
1:05:47
Robert and carrot crochet. No, like, didn't we I?
1:05:49
Don't think we covered so much. Well, I think we we did.
1:05:56
We did because I remember talking I I remember sharing my
1:05:59
thoughts on crochet about him being a guy where it's like like
1:06:05
similar to a a Montgomery or was it Montgomery we were talking
1:06:10
about? Maybe it was Montgomery we were
1:06:12
talking about. I swear we talked about crochet
1:06:14
and Louise Robert. But all I'd say either way,
1:06:19
they're still making headlines. They're making more headlines as
1:06:22
we get closer to the trade deadline.
1:06:24
Them and Mason Miller that that trio seems to be a trio of of
1:06:30
hot topics hot commodities do what are what are our thoughts
1:06:36
there on on those names being sort of shopped around.
1:06:39
I think the aggressiveness of the shopping around is lays in
1:06:44
the hands of the White Sox with Louise Robert and Kerr crochet.
1:06:47
But the A's, I think are going to be a little more cautious
1:06:51
with Lisa Miller. Or one would.
1:06:53
Think, I think the A's asking price is only going to be met or
1:06:59
the ability to meet by a couple teams.
1:07:04
I don't think the White Sox are in much of A position to really
1:07:07
be able to negotiate too much. You might as well get get rid of
1:07:11
these guys while their value is what it is.
1:07:16
I the, the first thought that came to me was the Mariners with
1:07:23
the whatever that word is, I can't find it with the idea that
1:07:31
Louise Robert is is able to slide to right.
1:07:36
Right field is kind of a hole. I, I think Mitch Hanniger has
1:07:39
been holding it down for most of the time.
1:07:41
He's below league average hitting wise.
1:07:43
He's 33. Luke Rayley has been playing a
1:07:48
lot of left. They brought in Victor Robles.
1:07:51
It's just there's kind of this revolving door in right field.
1:07:56
If again, he's willing to play right field, which I think it
1:07:59
would help him. He's injury prone.
1:08:01
We haven't seen a full season out of Elouise Robert in a
1:08:04
while. I think it makes sense.
1:08:07
And then this stuff with Brian Wu, you know what I mean?
1:08:10
Like the the back end of that rotation kind of needs to be
1:08:14
bolstered up. He had elbow issues, went on the
1:08:17
IL. Now he just went on the IL again
1:08:18
with hamstring. So like, I think if they're
1:08:21
going to make a run, I could see that man.
1:08:25
I could see that and imagine. I mean, we just saw Louise
1:08:29
Robert in Seattle a few weeks ago and I'm pretty sure he hit a
1:08:32
ball that almost went out of the stadium.
1:08:35
He went way upper deck left field.
1:08:40
That's what came to mind for me. And I what's crazy is that I
1:08:44
didn't realize this, but it made me think that this is going to
1:08:49
be a new thing. I guess the White Sox are like
1:08:52
kind of backing off crochet a little bit with with workload.
1:08:56
Like, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, this is a new
1:09:01
thing. Yeah.
1:09:02
I think you're going to start seeing teams do that, where they
1:09:04
have this piece that they have value in and maybe it's too soon
1:09:10
before the deadline. Interesting.
1:09:14
Keep him healthy because if he gets hurt, I mean you're, you
1:09:19
just shot yourself in the foot anyway.
1:09:23
And you know, I mean common sense more Indians out there,
1:09:27
more chances for you to run the ERA or he's a newer.
1:09:31
Starter too, like or whatever, you know, we've been used to
1:09:35
seeing him in the bullpen. So, yeah, yeah.
1:09:40
OK, interesting you. Got any teams off the?
1:09:44
It the Dodgers keep coming to the top for not just me, but it
1:09:49
just seems to be the consensus right now and it's kind of it's.
1:09:54
Boring. Yeah, but boring, probably the
1:09:57
best way to put it. But I would venture to say they
1:10:00
probably get one of the one of those two, I would think.
1:10:04
I, I think it would make more sense for the Dodgers to get
1:10:09
Crochet given their injury situation with the rotation this
1:10:15
year. But I mean, it's the Dodgers, so
1:10:19
they'll probably get both. Who knows?
1:10:23
Last item here before we sort of wrap things up, Edwin Diaz,
1:10:28
well, we got this in a weekend series to watch.
1:10:30
Edwin Diaz has opted to begin serving his 10 game suspension.
1:10:37
He I think he actually started to think he started yesterday.
1:10:41
So Tuesday, really not much to say here.
1:10:46
It's just another scenario where there's a lot of Gray area.
1:10:51
It seems there was not an opportunity for him to wash his
1:10:55
hands, unlike previous guys we've seen be granted that
1:11:01
opportunity. It, it just doesn't make any
1:11:03
sense. There's no, there's no
1:11:07
continuity when it comes to this stuff.
1:11:09
It's just case by case, umpire by umpire.
1:11:13
I, I don't understand. And then you had, what's his
1:11:17
name? Victoria Carapazza say, he said.
1:11:22
We've checked thousands of these.
1:11:24
I know what the feeling is. That was very sticky.
1:11:27
Like did you see the zoomed in picture?
1:11:30
Yeah, it looks weird. It was like.
1:11:32
That that looks awfully pine tarry.
1:11:34
It looked like, it looked like he wiped his butt.
1:11:38
Dude. It was like a little bit.
1:11:39
It was toilet. It looked like toilet paper
1:11:41
flakes or something. I'm like why is it?
1:11:43
Why? What is that?
1:11:45
Yeah. No, doesn't make any sense.
1:11:47
But look man, like he fell off. Then all of a sudden he came
1:11:54
back and he started doing well. He he was doing well.
1:11:58
So it's like, I is there a reason for that?
1:12:02
As I mean, he's gets checked every time.
1:12:04
All these guys get checked constantly, especially closers.
1:12:08
But was this the reason he was able to come back?
1:12:13
And if he does come back after the suspension and struggle
1:12:17
again, I'm not going to be surprised.
1:12:20
He was quoted afterwards saying that he uses the same thing
1:12:25
always and he was very he was really surprised he was ejected.
1:12:29
Said dirt and rosin. And sweat.
1:12:34
Yeah, Carlos Mendoza said he believed Edwin Diaz, but he said
1:12:43
that it was best for the team if he just began serving the
1:12:47
suspension immediately. He said we quote, we want to
1:12:50
move on from it. We don't want this cloud to be
1:12:52
hanging over the team for too long, which I'm glad I saw that
1:12:57
because I had the same question. I'm like, well, I mean, that's
1:13:00
with any sort of innocent guilty scenario where it's like if you
1:13:03
don't even if you don't even make an attempt to, to make your
1:13:07
case or to appeal or whatever, like what is that?
1:13:09
What are you really saying there?
1:13:11
I mean, I, I guess I get it. Like if you think there's even
1:13:15
a, a shred of a chance that this was legit and the umpires were
1:13:19
right, then it's like, why fight it?
1:13:21
Why push it? Why kick the can down the road?
1:13:23
Just just go, just go for the suspension now and get it over
1:13:28
with. And who knows, Like we said it
1:13:32
realistically, like if you think about it, maybe they're viewing
1:13:35
this as a thing where it's like, hey, we're only a game and a
1:13:37
half back. Let's not, let's not push this
1:13:40
too far down the road. Let's not delay it in case we
1:13:43
need you as we get closer to the deadline, closer to the home
1:13:46
stretch, just get it out of the way and we'll come back and
1:13:49
regroup. That's the biggest thing.
1:13:51
I think that's the biggest thing.
1:13:53
The Mets are in a very strange situation and if they start to
1:13:57
slide before the deadline, guys like Pete, Alonzo, other guys
1:14:01
may be on the block. But if they can play this way
1:14:05
and be in the hunt and keep this hot streak going, that changes a
1:14:12
lot. Maybe your buyers instead of
1:14:14
sellers. It's a very strange position.
1:14:18
Did you see that update that said Pete Alonzo would be a good
1:14:22
fit for the Red Sox if they decide to sell them at the
1:14:24
deadline? I'm hearing that in the Yankees,
1:14:27
too. I'm hearing.
1:14:28
Vlad. Vlad to the Yankees, who is He's
1:14:31
suddenly changed his mind. I There's certain names you
1:14:36
don't want in certain uniforms. You know, hey, like hand up.
1:14:41
I know I've you and I collectively collectively have
1:14:45
been ragging on Vlad Junior for some time, but you know, I'm
1:14:50
going to give the kid the benefit of the doubt.
1:14:51
I read his explanation. It was interesting.
1:14:54
He said, you know, he said at I'm paraphrasing, but he he was
1:14:59
something to the effect of I obviously said what I said at
1:15:02
one point in time that I wouldn't want to would never
1:15:06
want to play for the Yankees. But he said, which I thought
1:15:09
this was interesting and this we have to we have to have hope
1:15:13
that the guys that we watch growing up have a little bit of
1:15:18
influence here. But he said, I sat down and I
1:15:20
talked with my dad and I sent again, paraphrasing, but he was
1:15:25
like, I came to terms with the fact that like this is a
1:15:27
business and I need to handle myself as a professional.
1:15:31
And I go, you know what, knowing what we know about Vladdy, Well,
1:15:35
yeah, yeah, for sure. Like this is long overdue.
1:15:37
But I'm thinking like maybe that maybe that really was the case.
1:15:41
And maybe he's not feeding us a line.
1:15:42
Like maybe he really did sit down with with Vladdy senior and
1:15:46
maybe dad talked some sense into him.
1:15:48
It's like, hey, we, we can feel how we want about certain teams,
1:15:51
but like, you're a professional. Go out there and act like one.
1:15:54
I, I'm going to go ahead and venture to say or I'm I'm going
1:15:57
to, I'm going to believe that that's what happened.
1:16:00
Whether it did or not, I don't know, but I'm going to, I'm
1:16:03
going to put my faith in in Vladdy Senior there.
1:16:09
But his kids an idiot. I guess.
1:16:14
Thanks, Andrew. Andrew in the chat says I've
1:16:16
stared at Kyle so long in this outfit that the visor now looks
1:16:18
yellow and the polo now looks green.
1:16:20
How can you not be romantic about baseball?
1:16:22
Love that. Thank you.
1:16:23
Andrew, you're going to need to get your eyes checked.
1:16:26
Dude, I was thinking about it and I was like, when we're on
1:16:31
Ryan Ryan Ripken show recently, I have to say Ryan Ripken, you
1:16:36
know him as you know him as Ryan, but for the people that
1:16:39
don't know him, Ryan Ripken, friend of the pod.
1:16:42
When we were on there, I was like, man, I felt, I just felt
1:16:44
good when we did that episode and I was like, you know why?
1:16:48
You know why? Because I wasn't wearing this
1:16:50
stupid garbage bag. I I could be myself a little
1:16:55
bit, but when I get on here, I got to break free from these
1:17:02
chains of athletic apparel. I got to break free.
1:17:08
I got to break free. I can't wait for the day when
1:17:10
it's over. I'd like for it to be.
1:17:12
Framed and put up on the wall when you're done.
1:17:14
Just swap it out with a jersey up here.
1:17:17
Yeah, Yep. People are like, why do you have
1:17:19
a like a 15 year old athletics polo?
1:17:23
That's like peeling. That's a long story.
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OK, last thing before we get out of here and we'll make it quick
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weekend series to watch. I've got the Guardians and the
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Royals. Game one Thursday night, you got
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Ben Lively versus Michael Waka, that's 8:10 PM Eastern.
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Game two, Tristan Mackenzie versus Alec Marsh, that's at
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8:10 PM Eastern, Game 3, Tanner Bybee versus Cole Reagan's, 4:10
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PM. That'll be a good one to watch.
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And Game 4, Logan Allen versus Seth Lugo at 2:10 PM.
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That's going to be a good match up, I do believe.
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I did it again unintentionally, and this was the only series
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that I was OK with, so I didn't even look at the other ones.
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Well, Friday night you're going to have to get Apple TV again.
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So we got the Santiago Padres visiting the Red Sox in Boston,
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Randy Vasquez going against Nick Pavetta.
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Game one that is at 4:10 Pacific for my Padres fans Saturday. 710
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for you, you people that live on the right side of the country.
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Saturday game two, we got Michael King going against Z
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Kelly. Who's this guy?
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Zach Kelly. Zach Kelly.
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That'll probably be a thrown together game.
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He's got a 159 ERA. Is he a reliever?
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Yeah, he's pitching well. Oh, all right, cool.
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That's at 1:10 Pacific. And then game three, the final
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game on Sunday, 10:30 Pacific, you've got Waldron going against
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Tanner. How that should be a good one.
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That'd be the one I'd I'd I'd key into.
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By the way, I really, I really don't care for the fact that the
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Padres vibes are hitting the way they are as as they prepare for
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this. I think that's I think that's
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what's going to make it a good series.
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Both teams have been hot lately. I think I saw Sox have been
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eight and two in the last 10. The Padres are seven and three
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in their last ten, again at the time of the recording.
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But both teams are looking good. This is going to be a good
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series. Both are rolling.
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Hey, don't look now, Alex Score even said it himself.
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The Sox are coming for the division.
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You go ahead and laugh all you want, but we know how you feel
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about your beloved Yankees. Oh, I'm I'm about done.
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Orioles are slipping a little bit.
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I'm not saying it's going to happen, but just know that
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that's a possibility. This is worst case scenario for
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you. It's all I must say, why would
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that be worst case scenario for me?
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Because you can be caught in the middle, you're going to come up
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short and you're going to be this weird spot where you didn't
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sell at the deadline, you didn't buy and you missed the
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postseason. If you're making a, run for the
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division in the. They're not making a run
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division. In the East, no.
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Hypothetically, if they do make a run for the division in the
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east, you're making the wild card like you are you saying?
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I yeah, I mean, I think it depends if the Rangers wake up
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in the West. No, you know what I mean?
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If. If they even sniff the division,
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they're they're a wild card team, Yeah, it seems.
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Like, it seems like the Twins and Guardians are always going
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to be in the conversation for one of the two.
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And then the, you know, the Orioles and Yankees are in that
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conversation that you only need one more team in the West to
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step up. And, and the Red Sox are are,
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you know, fighting for that spot.
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All I'm saying is that I you know, you may be stuck in a
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weird spot. Let me enjoy this while it
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lasts. You're right, You're right.
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That's right now. So I'm just pointing out all
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that. Yep, that's where we're at.
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That's all I got my friends. We will see you guys Sunday.
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Yeah, quick note, I'm all done with the multi colored colored
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sleeves. 11 color on each arm. Like one color in this one, one
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color in this one. I don't know what that is, but
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I've seen it more and more and I'm I'm all done there.
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That's all. Have a good weekend.
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Don't go chasing curveballs. Love you all, and as always,
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looking forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
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Until next time, stay filthy.