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- 1:51Speaker 4: The US national debt is approaching record of thirty five trillion.
- 1:56Speaker 4: As citizens, is there anything we can do to address
- 2:01Speaker 4: or fix this issue?
- 2:04Speaker 1: I would say vote, but.
- 2:07Speaker 5: I don't even know if that would help, to be
- 2:09Speaker 5: very because remember and when we did Marku Mondy's Live
- 2:12Speaker 5: and Ghana, we were almost at thirty four trillion. It's
- 2:16Speaker 5: not even a year later, a four year later, we're
- 2:18Speaker 5: at thirty five, and I think we're starting to throw
- 2:20Speaker 5: these trillions around like it's nothing. At some point we're
- 2:24Speaker 5: going to need to revolt and figure out a shout
- 2:27Speaker 5: at the Tavio and figure out a way how to
- 2:31Speaker 5: get this debt down. We'll talk about the silent or
- 2:35Speaker 5: selective recession later. But when debt to GDP there's one
- 2:39Speaker 5: hundred and twenty two percent, But in two thousand when
- 2:42Speaker 5: we graduated Troy, who.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Was at fifty seven percent? Like, how to hell? Like
- 2:47Speaker 1: I remember at one time.
- 2:49Speaker 5: I'm not Republican, but I remember when Republicans would go
- 2:53Speaker 5: crazy if debt to GDP was a seventy five percent,
- 2:56Speaker 5: And now everyone wanted to ask, like one hundred and
- 2:58Speaker 5: twenty two percent, we should be at one thirty twenty
- 3:01Speaker 5: twenty eight is acceptable? I can't believe that we're here.
- 3:08Speaker 5: And if we stay at this pace while did you
- 3:11Speaker 5: see Kim Jong own and Putin look like they were
- 3:14Speaker 5: on a date? How happy they was riding together. This
- 3:17Speaker 5: is not good. This is not good. So I know
- 3:20Speaker 5: some people call me an alarmist. It's okay. Go to
- 3:23Speaker 5: us deck deck clock dot org and you can see
- 3:26Speaker 5: how much we owe. But every citizen os technically one
- 3:29Speaker 5: hundred and three thousand dollars to get the deficit back
- 3:32Speaker 5: to zero. Most people don't have one hundred and three
- 3:35Speaker 5: thousand as we've talked about, so we got to get
- 3:38Speaker 5: better leadership and hold them accountable.
- 3:40Speaker 6: Is that I feel like, is that the only answer?
- 3:43Speaker 6: Because I was like wrestling with this question and I'm
- 3:44Speaker 6: trying to figure out, like, as a citizen, what can
- 3:46Speaker 6: you do? I didn't want to say I'm not sure
- 3:48Speaker 6: what we can do? Is that we don't have nothings nothing?
- 3:52Speaker 6: Is this the only other answer?
- 3:56Speaker 1: Nothing? We gonna feel just like Drake did when he
- 3:59Speaker 1: saw that.
- 3:59Speaker 5: Now like US Game Convention, and then you can do
- 4:01Speaker 5: you got to just sit there and watch it and
- 4:03Speaker 5: be like, damn all of them don't like me, Like, yo,
- 4:06Speaker 5: this is insane. Of course, Stocks, of course is going
- 4:10Speaker 5: to do incredibly well. We'll talk about how the S
- 4:12Speaker 5: and P has been doing this year, But for the
- 4:14Speaker 5: debt to be this high while we built up India
- 4:18Speaker 5: and built up China and sent money to another foreign
- 4:22Speaker 5: country that I won't mention anymore, is absolutely insane.
- 4:26Speaker 6: It's funny you mentioned those two because there was just
- 4:29Speaker 6: a report. I believe it was in Morning Star or
- 4:32Speaker 6: it could have been in Seeking Alpha. But both those
- 4:37Speaker 6: countries are on pace to pass us in GP. I
- 4:39Speaker 6: think kinda by by twenty thirty is going to pass us,
- 4:42Speaker 6: and then I think India is like twenty thirty seven
- 4:45Speaker 6: or twenty forty don't yeah, I mean that's in this
- 4:49Speaker 6: lifetime yep, yeah, yep.
- 4:52Speaker 5: So honestly, there's noth nothing we can do to be
- 4:54Speaker 5: the one thing we potentially could do. It's act leadership
- 4:58Speaker 5: who are going to try and fix it. But it's tough.
- 5:03Speaker 5: It's tough to be almost at forty trillion in three
- 5:06Speaker 5: or four years. What are we doing? But Elon got paid, well,
- 5:11Speaker 5: he's about to get paid maybe fifty six billion.
- 5:15Speaker 1: Runner been into the ground.
- 5:17Speaker 6: So you saying get out, get out there and go, yep,
- 5:20Speaker 6: we'll find another country to live in.
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- 5:46Speaker 6: vintage original, the original.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Okay.
- 5:49Speaker 4: So Bloomberg projects that Social Security will run out of
- 5:53Speaker 4: money to pay full benefits by twenty thirty three and
- 5:57Speaker 4: Medicare by twenty thirty What steps can be taken to
- 6:02Speaker 4: mitigate this impending shortfall.
- 6:10Speaker 5: We're gonna get to the lighter conversations later. These first
- 6:12Speaker 5: two it goes back into the nothing. I just want
- 6:16Speaker 5: to be very honest. I think that those benefits have
- 6:20Speaker 5: been run out. Social Security is done for. I know
- 6:24Speaker 5: people keep saying that that it's not true. Once again,
- 6:28Speaker 5: go reference Chicago. That was the Canarian the Cold Mine
- 6:31Speaker 5: to tell you that the money wasn't there. Medicare by
- 6:34Speaker 5: twenty thirty six. That is scary, and because we don't
- 6:37Speaker 5: have enough checks and balances to know where the money
- 6:40Speaker 5: is going, where it's being spent, how it is being allocated,
- 6:44Speaker 5: how it's being deployed properly. So I think in our
- 6:48Speaker 5: lifetime we were going to have to just rest and
- 6:50Speaker 5: realize that Social Security or Medicare will not be there,
- 6:53Speaker 5: and if we continue to run into debt, other pension
- 6:55Speaker 5: plans are going.
- 6:56Speaker 1: To go away.
- 6:57Speaker 5: I remember as a kid when certain adults retired they
- 7:00Speaker 5: were guaranteed a pension. Then that went away, then came
- 7:03Speaker 5: into four o one k. That's some four to one
- 7:06Speaker 5: ks maybe going away in the next ten to fifteen years.
- 7:09Speaker 1: So there's nothing that we can do. What is a solution.
- 7:12Speaker 5: You got to invest in and take care of your
- 7:14Speaker 5: own financial house because nobody cares about your money the
- 7:17Speaker 5: way that you do.
- 7:19Speaker 1: But but it's sad and it's too late.
- 7:21Speaker 5: I've been beating this drum for about two years, and
- 7:23Speaker 5: everyone said I was a conspiracy theorist, but Bloomberg says
- 7:27Speaker 5: it sos official shot to Michael Bloomberg there, I.
- 7:30Speaker 6: Feel like we've heard this for the past couple of years,
- 7:35Speaker 6: and it felt like we're the direct descendance of this,
- 7:37Speaker 6: right like eighties babies, right, they were like as you
- 7:41Speaker 6: were growing up, as you were starting to work for us,
- 7:42Speaker 6: they would tell you, don't worry. Social surity is not
- 7:44Speaker 6: going to be there when you when it's time for
- 7:46Speaker 6: you all to retire, and that we're looking at the
- 7:48Speaker 6: numbers right within the next we are years, a lot
- 7:51Speaker 6: of us will probably be at that point where we've
- 7:53Speaker 6: done twenty five to thirty years in the career and
- 7:54Speaker 6: we're at that retirement age from a career working standpoint,
- 7:58Speaker 6: not from the social security standpoint.
- 8:00Speaker 1: But this is yeah, this is not one of those things.
- 8:04Speaker 6: Again, I'm not sure what we do other than continue
- 8:07Speaker 6: to educate ourselves, continue to find other ways than to
- 8:10Speaker 6: rely on these benefits, right, whether it's open or brokens
- 8:12Speaker 6: accounts of finding other pension plans. Like you said, but
- 8:15Speaker 6: this is a long especially for medicare. When you're talking
- 8:18Speaker 6: about the cost of health care in this country, I mean,
- 8:22Speaker 6: I don't even know how you can pay for it,
- 8:25Speaker 6: Like if you don't have that, if you don't have
- 8:26Speaker 6: health care, yeah, astronomical and even medicare is still an
- 8:30Speaker 6: expensive course.
- 8:33Speaker 1: I don't.
- 8:34Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's just started planning to having
- 8:37Speaker 6: not even discretionary outcome. But this becomes now that emergency fund.
- 8:40Speaker 6: I know early on you used to say it was
- 8:42Speaker 6: like sixty months, and I'm like that seems like a lot.
- 8:45Speaker 6: But I mean, based on these numbers, if this might
- 8:48Speaker 6: be something that's needed, do we now adjust what the
- 8:51Speaker 6: savings is. I don't from a financial advisorce standpoint, what
- 8:55Speaker 6: do you say to that?
- 8:56Speaker 4: Well, I mean, at first, you know this is not
- 8:59Speaker 4: something that's new. And from when I was a financial advisor,
- 9:02Speaker 4: I used to tell my clients this because actually, if
- 9:04Speaker 4: you look on your social Security statement, it says it
- 9:07Speaker 4: on your Sociality statement, it's been stated on your Social
- 9:10Speaker 4: Security statement for years, but nobody really reads fine print.
- 9:14Speaker 1: But so.
- 9:16Speaker 4: This, yeah, this is something that has been documented by
- 9:20Speaker 4: the Social Security Office themselves for over a decade. So
- 9:25Speaker 4: it's not surprising, and it doesn't necessarily mean that at
- 9:29Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, twenty thirty three, that is going to
- 9:32Speaker 4: be over. It's just staying at this pace. It will
- 9:34Speaker 4: be over, but they'll probably pump more money into it.
- 9:37Speaker 4: They'll they'll you know, I have very strong doubt that
- 9:41Speaker 4: Social Security will end in twenty thirty three. That's almost
- 9:46Speaker 4: almost impossible. They will put more money into it, and
- 9:49Speaker 4: they will make it. But that leads to more issues
- 9:52Speaker 4: because it's like, okay, we keep funding and putting ourselves
- 9:56Speaker 4: more into debt. But that goes back to the first thing,
- 9:58Speaker 4: as far as the debt is already out of contry.
- 10:00Speaker 4: So it's a political gain that you know, really the
- 10:06Speaker 4: politicians are the only ones that can kind of figure
- 10:07Speaker 4: this out because they're the ones that control the budget.
- 10:10Speaker 4: This goes back to our visit in Washington when we
- 10:12Speaker 4: met with you know, members of Congress and we talk
- 10:16Speaker 4: about you know, the Appropriations Committee, Ways and Means Committee,
- 10:20Speaker 4: different things of that. These type of committees control the budget,
- 10:24Speaker 4: where the money goes, and how it's allocated. And that's
- 10:28Speaker 4: why it's important to be politically aware and take part
- 10:33Speaker 4: in the political process because the members of Congress have
- 10:39Speaker 4: the power to make the decisions on this, and they're
- 10:43Speaker 4: the only ones that have the power to make the
- 10:45Speaker 4: decisions on this. So I'm pretty sure they'll they'll kick
- 10:47Speaker 4: the can down the road as long as they possibly can.
- 10:52Speaker 4: But yeah, it's not it's not encouraging that, you know,
- 10:55Speaker 4: financially we're on a pathway of insolvency. That's never that's
- 11:01Speaker 4: never good, right, But ultimately, there's only a few ways
- 11:04Speaker 4: that you can solve these type of issues. You either,
- 11:07Speaker 4: you know, increase revenue, which most of the time that's
- 11:09Speaker 4: by increasing taxes, or you cut spending. So Democrats want
- 11:17Speaker 4: to raise taxes, Republicans want to cut spending. I think
- 11:20Speaker 4: you got to do a combination of both. Yeah, and
- 11:24Speaker 4: military spending definitely something that I think there's spend way
- 11:29Speaker 4: too much money on, especially overseas, over and overseas military practices,
- 11:35Speaker 4: overseas financial aid to other countries. There's definitely something that
- 11:40Speaker 4: could potentially, you know, be cut down on as a
- 11:44Speaker 4: line item for sure, but it's all in the hands
- 11:49Speaker 4: of the politicians. It's a political it's a political game.
- 11:52Speaker 4: But as far as how much money you should have
- 11:54Speaker 4: in savings, I mean, you should definitely have at least
- 11:55Speaker 4: six months in savings, but you know, a year for
- 11:58Speaker 4: sure if you can to be on the safe side.
- 12:02Speaker 4: That's something that's helpful and beneficial. But savings is relative.
- 12:07Speaker 4: I mean, if you have money in the stock market, technically,
- 12:09Speaker 4: that's a form of savings as well, right, Like, so
- 12:12Speaker 4: you should you should have as much money as you
- 12:14Speaker 4: possibly can quote unquote saved. I mean just in a
- 12:18Speaker 4: regular bank account a year, probably no more than a year.
- 12:21Speaker 4: But after that, you know, you put money into a
- 12:23Speaker 4: brokerag account, you put money into stocks. In an emergency situation,
- 12:28Speaker 4: if you need to take then you can. You can
- 12:29Speaker 4: take from that as well. So you want to have
- 12:32Speaker 4: as much money you know, liquid, I would use that
- 12:36Speaker 4: as a better word than savings. You want to have
- 12:38Speaker 4: as much money liquid as you possibly can because it
- 12:41Speaker 4: just gives you flexibility when anything. Anything can happen, and
- 12:46Speaker 4: you know, if you're not liquid, then you're going to
- 12:49Speaker 4: be in a very difficult space.
- 12:51Speaker 5: And the truth is even when you get to a
- 12:53Speaker 5: different level. Even sixty months like five years ago, is
- 12:56Speaker 5: by fast. There's companies that have hit a route for
- 13:01Speaker 5: the run for ten years. But if you look at
- 13:04Speaker 5: how much money they have, two point seven trillion in
- 13:08Speaker 5: social security left, that's the value. That's the market cap
- 13:11Speaker 5: of video, and video's at two point nine So everyone's
- 13:15Speaker 5: paid in all this time and in the course of
- 13:18Speaker 5: ten years, and videos has had more value than security.
- 13:23Speaker 5: That money probably won't be there by twenty forty. What
- 13:26Speaker 5: do I know? And every year we do the show
- 13:29Speaker 5: makes a case for why you need this much money
- 13:31Speaker 5: stored away. Inflation is getting higher. We won't talk about
- 13:37Speaker 5: the corruption, the reallocation of money. It's a lot of
- 13:40Speaker 5: tricky stuff going on investing yourself, to my thinking.
- 13:46Speaker 1: On top of that, you have to have your money
- 13:49Speaker 1: work for you. There's no more like.
- 13:51Speaker 5: The disparity between rich and poor is getting higher than ever.
- 13:54Speaker 5: We'll talk about it later, but now we have a
- 13:56Speaker 5: poor person's recession. We're gonna put all the deb on
- 14:01Speaker 5: those that make less than sixty grand a year, and
- 14:03Speaker 5: then everyone who's doing well get elevated higher. I know
- 14:06Speaker 5: I sound like Bernie Sanders, but it is getting tricky,
- 14:09Speaker 5: and as an entrepreneur, you have to be able to
- 14:12Speaker 5: weather a lot of storms, and sometimes the storm may
- 14:14Speaker 5: lasts longer than the year.
- 14:17Speaker 6: Sure, yep, yeah, I'm looking at this start for the
- 14:21Speaker 6: US government spending fiscal year to day twenty twenty four.
- 14:24Speaker 6: The number one category is Social Security nine hundred and
- 14:28Speaker 6: sixty billion. Medicare is number two, six hundred and seven billion.
- 14:31Speaker 6: We had interests six hundred and one billion, Health five
- 14:34Speaker 6: hundred and ninety five billion, and the National Defense five
- 14:37Speaker 6: hundred and seventy six billion. Interesting. Interesting, I'm trying for
- 14:43Speaker 6: out where Education is here?
- 14:44Speaker 1: Oh?
- 14:44Speaker 6: Here it is down here, number eight Education, Training, Employment,
- 14:47Speaker 6: and Social Services one hundred and forty one billion.
- 14:51Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot key gonna get their money no matter what.
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