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The Monkey’s Paw Prints – Xenomania 31 · Xenomania

• 0:15
  Ryan: The monkey.
• 0:17
  The monkey, uh, such a good movie.
• 0:21
  Kearns: It was good.
• 0:22
  It was enjoyable to watch this one.
• 0:24
  Ryan: The, I'll say this, the opening really hooks you.
• 0:27
  I like that old 1960s vibe and the music and it's just, it gets you
• 0:32
  like, you know, it's a horror film.
• 0:35
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 0:35
  Ryan: fun horror film, if that makes sense.
• 0:38
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 0:38
  Ryan: have fun
• 0:39
  Kearns: definitely a, yeah, it's definitely a fun horse.
• 0:44
  Before we dig too deep though, John, do you have anything nefarious for us today?
• 0:47
  Jon: Of course I have a blind rank.
• 0:51
  I,
• 0:53
  Kearns: I'm getting tired of these.
• 0:54
  Jon: all right, so here's the thing.
• 0:57
  I think someone's getting four or five points guessing the theme,
• 1:01
  Kearns: Okay.
• 1:02
  Jon: but this is gonna be your hardest list.
• 1:05
  Kearns: Okay.
• 1:06
  Jon: All right.
• 1:08
  The, let's pop the wrong, I.
• 1:10
  Ryan: There's like so many avenues.
• 1:12
  Last time it was years.
• 1:14
  Others was Pearls in New York.
• 1:15
  Jon: Yep.
• 1:21
  I know this isn't, why is this not sharing properly?
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  There we go.
• 1:25
  Ryan: I
• 1:26
  Jon: You guys see you.
• 1:27
  There we go.
• 1:28
  Kearns: Oh boy.
• 1:33
  Writer's Nightmares.
• 1:35
  Um, Kathy Bates, uh,
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  Ryan: Stephen
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  Kearns: misery.
• 1:44
  Misery is another one of those.
• 1:46
  That's better.
• 1:47
  A better book than a movie.
• 1:49
  And Misery was a good movie.
• 1:51
  Um,
• 1:53
  Jon: what did you say, Ryan?
• 1:55
  Ryan: Stephen King characters.
• 1:59
  Jon: I'm debating if I'm debating if I'm counting that.
• 2:04
  Kearns: how could that possibly be the hardest, though?
• 2:07
  of your.
• 2:08
  Jon: Oh, the theme is easy making ranking.
• 2:10
  This is gonna be hard.
• 2:12
  Kearns: Oh, okay.
• 2:12
  Ryan: Oh, oh.
• 2:13
  All right.
• 2:14
  Hold.
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  Jon: I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna count it.
• 2:17
  Ryan got the theme.
• 2:18
  So,
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  Kearns: That's
• 2:19
  Jon: rank misery,
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  Kearns: Four.
• 2:23
  Jon: rank four.
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  Oops.
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  What'd you say, Ryan,
• 2:28
  Ryan: um, I'm going to, so I'm gonna have to rank it at five.
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  And the reason I'm ranking it at five, I've never seen it.
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  'cause I am oversaturated with the scene when she busts his ankles
• 2:43
  Jon: you've
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  Ryan: scene creeps me
• 2:45
  Jon: seen misery.
• 2:47
  Kearns: Take away his, he gets.
• 2:50
  Jon: I'm tempted.
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  I'm tempted.
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  I purposely, I purposely tried to build this list with the most movies
• 2:59
  that you guys have seen that I love.
• 3:02
  So we'll go to the next one.
• 3:05
  Maybe you've seen this one, Ryan.
• 3:10
  Kearns: The dark.
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  of course.
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  It's George Romero.
• 3:13
  Jon: Of course it is.
• 3:14
  Ryan: Yes,
• 3:17
  Jon: What a relationship that was.
• 3:20
  Kearns: I didn't know.
• 3:20
  Uh, they were really close.
• 3:22
  Jon: Yeah,
• 3:24
  Kearns: Cool.
• 3:24
  Jon: forgotten.
• 3:26
  Kearns: Cool.
• 3:28
  Jon: All right, so where are we ranking the dark half.
• 3:30
  Kearns: I'm going with two.
• 3:32
  Jon: Ooh,
• 3:36
  Ryan: I am gonna go with 3 0
• 3:45
  Jon: All right.
• 3:51
  It is.
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  It is the original tv, Tim Curry, who is still alive version.
• 3:57
  Ryan: Yes.
• 3:59
  the hell outta me as a kid
• 4:04
  Kearns: Going with the dark half, might have been a little half cocked 'cause
• 4:08
  I would've put it two just in case.
• 4:10
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 4:12
  Kearns: I really like it.
• 4:13
  Ryan: one.
• 4:15
  Kearns: I'm gonna, I'm gonna go rogue here.
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  It's gonna be three
• 4:18
  Jon: All right.
• 4:19
  Kearns: TV series.
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  I'll put a three so I have a one outta a five left.
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  This is not good.
• 4:27
  Ryan: I got two and four.
• 4:29
  Jon: Ah, I think it might work out.
• 4:30
  Let's see.
• 4:34
  Ryan: Oh, that's gotta be two.
• 4:39
  What?
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  Kearns: I liked it, but I'm not gonna waste a one on maximum overdrive.
• 4:44
  I would definitely gamble.
• 4:50
  Jon: Oh.
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  Ryan: I'm gonna feel horrible if it's
• 4:51
  Jon: I don't, I don't think Ryan's gonna like what the last movie winds up at four.
• 4:58
  Kearns: Oh no.
• 5:00
  Ryan: I'm like, pet
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  Kearns: Oh, easy, easy one.
• 5:06
  Easy one.
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  I mean, I was waiting for Shawshank or Green Mile too.
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  Gotta know like how much you love those.
• 5:13
  Stand By Me is an epic,
• 5:15
  Jon: Oh, but see, I'm gonna disappoint you.
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  I don't love Shawshank.
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  Kearns: That's fine.
• 5:22
  Jon: Yeah,
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Uh,
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  Jon: you, you had it at number one or stand by me at number one, rather.
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  You had, you went Stand By Me, dark half it misery and maximum overdrive,
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  which I think is your one flaw.
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  I think maximum overdrive should be higher, but.
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  Kearns: I would've made it higher if I didn't only have five left, I
• 5:47
  would've probably put it at three.
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  I would've put in at two.
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  I would've put the dark half at four, and I would've, I might
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  have dropped misery to five.
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  Yeah, I would've dropped misery to five.
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  Jon: All right, so we have a little, A shakeup in our leaderboard.
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  Kearns: I was
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Jon: You get the point for the list.
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  Ryan gets five for the theme.
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  Ryan: I am definitely, like, I would've switched some things.
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  Definitely.
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  Oh, 'cause I guessed it real quick.
• 6:15
  Jon: guessed it on the first one.
• 6:18
  Ryan: Yeah.
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  Kearns: that was the easiest theme.
• 6:23
  Jon: Yep.
• 6:24
  Kearns: I was out here,
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  Ryan: would've,
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  Kearns: this motherfucker.
• 6:31
  Ryan: it's the name of the game.
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  I would've definitely put Stand by me as number one though, and it is number two,
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  maximum overdrive would've been three.
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  And
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  Kearns: rest of your life.
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  That's the important thing.
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  That's the important thing.
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  Ryan: I
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  Jon: Yep.
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  I think this,
• 6:47
  Ryan: in myself right now.
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  Jon: I think this will be the first one we publish anywhere, just so
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  Ryan has to like live a forever.
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  Kearns: Oh, poor
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  Ryan: before.
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  Stand by me.
• 7:00
  Kearns: Ryan.
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  We'll stop.
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  I'll stop shitting on you because I'm a sore loser, but
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  Ryan: No, it's, it's okay.
• 7:06
  Kearns: so we're doing the Monkey tonight gentlemen, as you well know.
• 7:10
  Listeners, the monkey, which if you haven't put it together yet, is
• 7:13
  an adaptation from a Stephen King short story from Skeleton Crew,
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Ryan: yep.
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  Kearns: and which I have like the most beat up paperback
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  over here of skeleton crew.
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  Excuse me, as I leave.
• 7:29
  Jon: Excuse me while I whip this out.
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  Ryan: There
• 7:36
  Jon: Yes.
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  Kearns: You know, it's a well loved book right there.
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  Look at
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 7:39
  Kearns: baby.
• 7:40
  Jon: Yep.
• 7:41
  Kearns: Um,
• 7:42
  Ryan: But
• 7:42
  Kearns: let's see what else is in this one.
• 7:44
  Ryan: on the cover it's symbols, it's not drumsticks
• 7:48
  Jon: Yes.
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  Ryan: they're using the
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  Kearns: because that was the back in
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  Ryan: symbols.
• 7:51
  Kearns: the day.
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  The toy was symbols.
• 7:53
  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: Oh, the mis is in this one as well.
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  Here there'd be Tigers.
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  The monkeys only 30 pages long and they made a full length movie out of it.
• 8:00
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 8:01
  Kearns: The jaunt is in this as well.
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  The raft from creep show way back in the day.
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  Jon: Yep.
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  Kearns: Word processor of the gods is another fantastic one.
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  This is one of his best ones ever.
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  Uncle Otto's truck is also a movie, I think, um, for Owen, his son.
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  Wow.
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  Dude.
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  Skeleton crew was 19.
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  Playboy is one of the things that, that, um.
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  Gave him a write up on this 1986 First print
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  Ryan: Yep.
• 8:35
  Kearns: Wild.
• 8:36
  Ryan: was for the collection.
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  The monkey came out though in 1980 of November.
• 8:42
  Doesn't say a magazine though.
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  Kearns: So
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  Ryan: I think you're, you're
• 8:48
  Kearns: a good,
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  Ryan: for,
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  Kearns: I'm surprised.
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  Made a movie out.
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  It somebody needed money is my,
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  Ryan: um.
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  Well, at the time he was doing a thing on his, uh, website.
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  Um, they closed it recently or a couple years back.
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  So if you paid a dollar, you can create any of the stories that were
• 9:09
  listed under, um, what he allowed to be published or worked into movies.
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  And the monkey was on there
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  Kearns: oh, so.
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  Ryan: then all of a sudden Yep.
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  For the, the writer, um, Osgood Perkins, basically, he grabbed
• 9:24
  it for a dollar and sold it to eon the idea and directed it too.
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  He also
• 9:29
  Jon: Oz per,
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  Ryan: length.
• 9:31
  Jon: yep.
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  Oz Perkins.
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  Who is horror royalty or descendant of horror Royalty?
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  Kearns: I got it.
• 9:38
  Jon: I,
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  Kearns: uh, the royalty.
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  Jon: Anthony Perkins?
• 9:44
  Ryan: Oh, okay.
• 9:46
  Makes sense.
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  Yeah.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 9:48
  Ryan: make sure I didn't know, maybe restaurant related.
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  I, I had to be
• 9:51
  Jon: Nope.
• 9:52
  Nope.
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  Kearns: It's cool,
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  Jon: Psycho.
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  Kearns: Story.
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  So the monkey, um, starts out pretty fun.
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  it hits you with the, vibe right away and it doesn't leave
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  that vibe for the whole movie.
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  And I appreciate, and that's very
• 10:05
  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: of them too.
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  Jon: Yeah.
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  Kearns: it starts out, we, go to a pawn shop and there's this
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  kind of real cagey pawn broker.
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  He is not really picking up what the guy comes in to sell.
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 10:16
  Kearns: uh, sounds like there's, wait, if I remember there going off
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  outside, like shit was hitting the.
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  Ryan: Well, he comes in with his, well, first off, uh, it's the character's
• 10:27
  p uh, Pete Shelburne, who's played by Adam Scott, and he comes in, he's
• 10:32
  a pilot and he's covered in blood.
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  It's all dry blood, and he's holding this monkey just like.
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  He doesn't want any part of it.
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  And the guy's like, you know, you're covered in blood.
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  And he goes, well, it's not my blood.
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  Uh, nevermind.
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  I just need to get rid of this.
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  And he's like, no returns on toys.
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  And he's like, a toy.
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  It understands you.
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  Which is interesting to put out right in the beginning.
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  It understands you don't call it a toy.
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  And then that's when the shit hits the fan.
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  But they set it up.
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  They set it up brilliantly because they show like the, um, oh, I'm
• 11:04
  going with the Scooby-Doo character 'cause of the marine outfit.
• 11:09
  Um, the diver suit, ther suit's in there with the
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 11:13
  Kearns: Oh
• 11:13
  Ryan: harpoon gun.
• 11:15
  You have the mouse on the shelf, you have knives, you have that can go wrong
• 11:21
  Jon: Yep.
• 11:21
  Ryan: and you know it's gonna go wrong.
• 11:24
  Kearns: indeed,
• 11:25
  Jon: Yep.
• 11:26
  Kearns: indeed it does.
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  Now,
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  Jon: And
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  Kearns: there, I wanted to know, because this is important for
• 11:29
  later, what did it sound like?
• 11:31
  There was bedlum outside of the shop.
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  Yeah, so it
• 11:34
  Jon: Yeah,
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  Kearns: down out there
• 11:35
  Jon: yeah, yeah.
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  The And that, yeah, that's definitely the monkey escalates.
• 11:42
  Kearns: Yes, the monkey does escalate.
• 11:45
  Jon: And our poor, poor pawn, pawn broker, poor pawn broker, it belie,
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  believes that the monkey's broken anyway.
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  'cause it's that arm goes up and just sticks.
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  Ryan: Yep.
• 12:02
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 12:03
  You get the stick spin and it just stays up.
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  But you don't, you don't, you quickly learn.
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  You don't want to be around when that stick comes down.
• 12:13
  Ryan: Oh, no, you don't, but at least it's, well, it's random at least.
• 12:19
  Jon: Random ish.
• 12:21
  Kearns: Random ish is a good way to put it.
• 12:23
  Um, so we, we flash forward before we give too much away.
• 12:27
  We flash forward to, um, the semi future and the pilots to children, our twin boys.
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  And, uh, one's a dick and one's a nerd
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 12:38
  Kearns: are just screwing around and they happen upon the box or little
• 12:42
  box, whatever you wanna call that.
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  It's a round box, so it's
• 12:45
  Jon: Yep.
• 12:46
  Kearns: but it's got the monkey in it.
• 12:48
  Jon: Yep.
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  Kearns: says, I forget that the phrase, if anybody remembers the phrase
• 12:52
  Jon: Like life.
• 12:54
  Kearns: like life,
• 12:55
  Jon: Yeah.
• 12:56
  Ryan: Like life,
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  Kearns: and then what's the, um, saying of the monkey that the monkey uses.
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  He says, give it a shot or like give it a try, or something like that.
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  Like turn the
• 13:07
  Jon: Oh,
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  Kearns: and
• 13:08
  Jon: yeah.
• 13:10
  Kearns: um, turn the key.
• 13:13
  So that's before that though, it's also on the box.
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  The, like, the two little boys see it when they first open up the monkey.
• 13:20
  Jon: Yeah.
• 13:21
  I didn't write that down.
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  I, hold on.
• 13:23
  Ryan: I
• 13:23
  Jon: I'm gonna see if I can.
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  Kearns: We can look it up like two seconds.
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  But uh, and they, so the kids are screwing around with it.
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  And then they, they crank the key
• 13:33
  Ryan: yep.
• 13:34
  Kearns: in the closet, right?
• 13:35
  They do the first one in the closet
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  Jon: Right outside the closet.
• 13:37
  Kearns: right outside,
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  Jon: I think they're on the floor outside the closet
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  Kearns: and then cl, cl cl he starts drumming away and somebody's gotta eat it.
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  Who
• 13:48
  Jon: and,
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  Kearns: Well, actually Annie's the first one.
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  Um, but he takes a while.
• 13:54
  The monkey doesn't hit the drum right away.
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  So this is the, another, like the first example of that
• 13:58
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 13:59
  Kearns: Wilkes, who we'll talk about in a second.
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  'cause this one chaps my ass a little bit.
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  them to, um, a hibachi dinner.
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  She's their babysitter.
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  And they go to vi bocce and she's got the hots for the chef, which I liked.
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  It was like, go Annie,
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 14:13
  Kearns: go.
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  And then he accidentally cuts off her head while he is showing off
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  with her because dropped his stick
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  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 14:18
  Kearns: and then her head falls off on, which is a
• 14:21
  Jon: Yep.
• 14:22
  Yeah,
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  Ryan: and it shows the monkey is like, has like a little like,
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  um, I don't wanna say like little magic or um, supernatural to it.
• 14:32
  It's very supernatural because it appears in the van, they
• 14:35
  Jon: yeah,
• 14:35
  Ryan: house
• 14:36
  Jon: yeah.
• 14:37
  Ryan: it's right in the front seat of
• 14:39
  Jon: I,
• 14:39
  Ryan: Drumming
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  Jon: just want to, I just want to backtrack so for one second so
• 14:44
  we get a sense of how the twins are when they find the monkey.
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  Bill claims it as his own because he is the oldest and therefore
• 14:52
  their dad's next of skin.
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  Ryan: Yep.
• 14:58
  Kearns: I.
• 14:59
  Jon: So Bill is kind of, Bill's kind of a halfwit and a bully.
• 15:04
  Ryan: Oh, a hundred percent
• 15:07
  Kearns: Yeah, I mean, yeah,
• 15:10
  Jon: And Bill is also in love with Annie.
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  Like
• 15:13
  Ryan: yes.
• 15:14
  Jon: he, he is heartbroken when she's into the, the chef.
• 15:20
  Ryan: I mean, he, he made her a rice heart on Hibachi All
• 15:25
  Jon: Yeah.
• 15:25
  I mean, what woman could resist a rice heart?
• 15:31
  No,
• 15:31
  Ryan: Not
• 15:32
  Jon: that's, that's why, contrary to what people tell you, it is not a
• 15:36
  good idea to bring a date to hibachi.
• 15:40
  Kearns: I suppose not.
• 15:43
  Essence, thanks for the PS A guys, um,
• 15:46
  Ryan: day
• 15:47
  Kearns: so.
• 15:48
  we leave the scene with the hibachi, go straight to the funeral.
• 15:52
  Ryan: Yeah,
• 15:53
  Kearns: the brothers are kind of shocked.
• 15:55
  They, they don't really, they didn't put anything together yet.
• 15:58
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:00
  Ryan: the pre, the priest is just inappropriate.
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  That's all I'm gonna say on that
• 16:04
  Jon: The, the priest is entirely inappropriate.
• 16:07
  Kearns: The is awesome.
• 16:08
  He completely likes another reason he slams the tone and tenor of the movie
• 16:13
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:13
  Kearns: just,
• 16:13
  Jon: Yeah.
• 16:16
  Yep.
• 16:17
  Stoner priest.
• 16:18
  But is the priest more inappropriate than the speech the boys get from mom?
• 16:25
  After the funeral,
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  Kearns: no, we all
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  Jon: everyone is gonna die.
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  Everything, everyone.
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  It's, it's the most miserable speech you could possibly give a kid.
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  And then she ends it with,
• 16:39
  Ryan: cream.
• 16:40
  Jon: yeah, and then she ends it with, let's go dancing.
• 16:43
  Ryan: Yeah,
• 16:44
  Kearns: That's another weird one.
• 16:47
  Ryan: that's like her coping mechanism.
• 16:49
  I think
• 16:50
  Jon: Oh, for sure.
• 16:52
  Kearns: yeah, that's a good point.
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  Plus she's also with the fact that her husband vanished,
• 16:58
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 16:59
  Kearns: I'm sure
• 17:01
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:01
  Kearns: out.
• 17:01
  Yeah.
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  Left for cigarettes on a flight.
• 17:04
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:05
  Which I mean is another hint that the monkey is sort of supernatural in
• 17:11
  itself because he brought the monkey somewhere else and then set it on
• 17:16
  fire and the monkey showed back up in his home in perfect condition.
• 17:24
  Kearns: yeah, for his son's.
• 17:26
  How And bill to, to pick up in the closet.
• 17:30
  And then, um, which one's the dick?
• 17:32
  Is it Hal?
• 17:34
  Jon: Bill.
• 17:34
  Kearns: One of the bro, the one brother's a dick.
• 17:37
  Alright, Bill's the dick.
• 17:38
  So Bill tortures his brother, and he also sets him up to be
• 17:40
  tortured by people at school,
• 17:43
  Jon: yeah.
• 17:43
  Kearns: make very funny in camping and, and, uh, hilarious.
• 17:47
  But it is important for the movie because they, how gets, you know,
• 17:52
  mercilessly bullied and, um, the monkey shows up too, which doesn't help.
• 17:58
  And they, they
• 17:58
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 17:59
  Kearns: him.
• 17:59
  That's my favorite.
• 18:00
  They just, kids just walk in with boxes of bananas to the assembly
• 18:04
  and just destroy him with them.
• 18:06
  And
• 18:06
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 18:07
  Kearns: the times because back then the staff would probably let that go.
• 18:12
  Jon: The staff would definitely let that go.
• 18:15
  Kearns: yeah, back in the day, they would be laughing alongside the kids.
• 18:18
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 18:19
  Kearns: different time right now
• 18:21
  Jon: Yep.
• 18:24
  Kearns: Here we are.
• 18:25
  Um, so he's, he ends up getting, getting worked over and that's when he decides
• 18:29
  to, to bust out the monkey again.
• 18:31
  And I don't know if he put two and two together or he kind of, I don't forget
• 18:35
  how he kind of figures out that it might kill somebody for him, but he is
• 18:39
  aware of that when he turns the key.
• 18:41
  Jon: Yeah, I think Hal definitely figured out very quickly
• 18:46
  that the monkey is cursed.
• 18:50
  Ryan: Yes.
• 18:51
  Jon: And
• 18:52
  Ryan: he put everything together quickly.
• 18:54
  Jon: Hal also learned that mom doesn't go in their room anymore
• 18:57
  since she found this stiff sock.
• 19:01
  Kearns: it's, it's another really good, really good line in the movie.
• 19:05
  She probably cut her foot on it.
• 19:06
  The poor lady.
• 19:08
  Terrible.
• 19:08
  Ryan: She was
• 19:09
  Jon: No.
• 19:10
  So, Hal, after, the Beaning goes home and turns the key and in tries to
• 19:16
  instruct the monkey to go for Bill,
• 19:18
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 19:19
  Ryan: Doesn't work.
• 19:21
  Jon: the monkey doesn't take special requests.
• 19:24
  Kearns: no, does not.
• 19:26
  And again, his mother has a nice anur, a very Hollywood aneurysm might I
• 19:30
  Jon: Yeah.
• 19:31
  Kearns: and a kitchen where like the side of her head is
• 19:33
  just out with blood and she's
• 19:35
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 19:36
  Kearns: and then on the.
• 19:39
  Jon: Yep.
• 19:39
  Ryan: how bloody that scene was just, it's just pouring out of her
• 19:42
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 19:43
  Yeah.
• 19:44
  Ryan: eye, and then it's like shooting out of her neck.
• 19:45
  At one point I'm like, what?
• 19:47
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 19:48
  Ryan: on?
• 19:49
  Jon: And
• 19:50
  Ryan: like a blood.
• 19:51
  Jon: you, you get another little life sort of lesson there when they,
• 19:55
  when Hal's voiceover says that it, it was a one in 44 million chance,
• 20:01
  and he says, one in 44 million only means it has to happen to someone.
• 20:06
  Ryan: Gotcha.
• 20:06
  Jon: Like there's a, there are a lot of those little like
• 20:10
  ouch lines in there like that.
• 20:13
  Kearns: It's good writing.
• 20:15
  um, I'm curious why they chose the number 44 million.
• 20:17
  That wasn't the population of the US at the time, was it?
• 20:22
  Jon: No, probably not.
• 20:23
  I think that, that that's, I think that's probably the actual medical likelihood
• 20:28
  of the type of aneurysm she had.
• 20:31
  Kearns: Oh, got it, got it.
• 20:32
  Now I get it.
• 20:33
  You're saying thank you.
• 20:35
  Jon: Yep.
• 20:37
  Kearns: Um,
• 20:38
  Ryan: I'm happy you
• 20:38
  Kearns: we get,
• 20:41
  Ryan: because I
• 20:41
  Kearns: we,
• 20:42
  Ryan: this is a very low number right now.
• 20:45
  Like
• 20:46
  Kearns: it's interesting.
• 20:48
  We get that and then we get the monkey getting tossed in the, well
• 20:52
  Jon: Yep,
• 20:52
  Kearns: it up, which is a nice touch,
• 20:54
  Jon: yep.
• 20:54
  Kearns: then they throw in the well, and that's that.
• 20:57
  Jon: Well,
• 20:57
  Kearns: zip
• 20:58
  Jon: we do, we do sort of skip over them being taken to live
• 21:03
  with their Aunt Ida and Uncle Chip
• 21:06
  Kearns: and the
• 21:06
  Jon: and, yep.
• 21:08
  And the monkey, they let the monkey get another kill in
• 21:11
  before they throw it in the will.
• 21:14
  Kearns: Oh really?
• 21:14
  Who does it kill?
• 21:15
  Jon: Uncle Chip.
• 21:17
  Ryan: Yep.
• 21:17
  Kearns: It killed Uncle Chip.
• 21:18
  How did I
• 21:19
  Jon: Yeah.
• 21:20
  Ryan: Well, the, the horses trampled him on a
• 21:22
  Jon: Yeah.
• 21:24
  Kearns: That's right.
• 21:25
  That was like a quick cutaway.
• 21:27
  And then he was just goo at sleeping bag.
• 21:30
  Uncle Chip.
• 21:31
  You got, you caught it bad.
• 21:33
  And then when we get back to the present times,
• 21:37
  we don't know the monkeys been found yet, but Ida catches it bad.
• 21:42
  Yeah, we,
• 21:43
  Jon: Yeah.
• 21:43
  Kearns: on scene yet, but a monkey death Sure does occur
• 21:47
  Jon: Oh yeah,
• 21:49
  Ryan: I,
• 21:50
  Kearns: stairs
• 21:51
  Ryan: yep,
• 21:53
  Kearns: price.
• 21:53
  Jon: yeah.
• 21:54
  Ryan: about that scene.
• 21:55
  I was like,
• 21:56
  Jon: Face, face full of fish hooks and fishing lures.
• 22:00
  She's got the propane stove on or the gas stove on to
• 22:05
  Ryan: Which, it's,
• 22:07
  Jon: while she, while she's pulling hooks and lures out of her face
• 22:11
  and sterilizing them with alcohol.
• 22:16
  Kearns: So brutal.
• 22:17
  And then she, she sniff gas leak and somehow it, it just
• 22:21
  Jon: Uh huh.
• 22:22
  Kearns: of gas.
• 22:22
  Ryan: That's,
• 22:23
  Kearns: And then, uh,
• 22:25
  Jon: So now her face is on fire
• 22:27
  Kearns: Yep.
• 22:28
  Jon: and she, she goes, she goes running out the door steps in something.
• 22:32
  So now she's got like a can on her foot
• 22:35
  Kearns: that was pretty funny.
• 22:37
  Jon: and then,
• 22:39
  and, and trips right into the for sale sign on her house
• 22:43
  and gets impaled on the sign.
• 22:46
  Ryan: It's just, just a cr, like first for a third death.
• 22:53
  It's like the death's just top one another.
• 22:56
  You know, you go from a beheading to an aneurysm to basically
• 23:01
  burning little comedy and
• 23:04
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 23:07
  she catches it bad.
• 23:09
  She didn't,
• 23:09
  Jon: Yeah.
• 23:10
  Kearns: that.
• 23:11
  Ryan: Uh,
• 23:12
  Kearns: And, um, and we zip over to Hal.
• 23:14
  Ryan: that.
• 23:15
  Kearns: He's being a, a random Elijah Wood cameo,
• 23:18
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 23:19
  Kearns: and like this, not cult leader, but he is like a guru of
• 23:22
  sorts and he's got partial custody of
• 23:25
  Jon: Yep.
• 23:26
  Kearns: son.
• 23:27
  Jon: Yep.
• 23:27
  Kearns: White is saying that you're gonna, they're gonna sue for full custody
• 23:30
  and this douche bag's gonna adopt him.
• 23:32
  Apparently Hal's a bit of an absentee father,
• 23:35
  Jon: Yeah.
• 23:36
  Well, Hal and Bill have separately because they become estranged in the 25
• 23:42
  years between, but separately, they have come to the conclusion that they can't
• 23:46
  have real attachments in their lives.
• 23:49
  Hal made the mistake of having a kid, which he says was a mistake to the kid,
• 23:55
  Ryan: Yeah, he does.
• 23:56
  Jon: but, um,
• 23:58
  Kearns: Well, he says you were.
• 24:00
  He says something clever though.
• 24:01
  He says you were an accident, but not a mistake
• 24:05
  Jon: yeah.
• 24:06
  Ryan: accidents
• 24:08
  Jon: Yeah.
• 24:10
  Kearns: it's a clever line.
• 24:11
  Ryan: and a little over.
• 24:13
  Kearns: Didn't seem to help with,
• 24:16
  Jon: No, no, not at all.
• 24:19
  But so Hal, Hal is, you know, completely underachieving, making
• 24:24
  as few connections as possible like a week, a year with his kid.
• 24:29
  And this is set up to be the last week he has with his son Pete,
• 24:35
  because he's going to give up full custody to the mother and Elijah Wood.
• 24:42
  Kearns: and that's then he takes him a motel because why not
• 24:45
  Jon: Yeah.
• 24:46
  Kearns: Gonna spend the night at the Motel PD tomorrow, another motel.
• 24:52
  they arrive at the motel.
• 24:53
  What's, what's fun about?
• 24:55
  What happens there?
• 24:57
  Ryan: Well, he gets a call from Bill,
• 25:00
  Jon: yep, yep.
• 25:01
  Ryan: warning him about the monkey, saying it's on the loose and we get a beautiful
• 25:07
  woman who's just wants to take a dip in the pool, this air conditioner falls down.
• 25:15
  Breaks, falls into the
• 25:17
  Jon: narrowly, Mrs. How?
• 25:19
  Ryan: Okay.
• 25:20
  True on that.
• 25:21
  It does narrowly Miss Hal and then electrocutes the water, allowing
• 25:26
  the swimmer to jump into the pool, ignoring Hal's warning and
• 25:30
  exploding body parts fly everywhere.
• 25:36
  Kearns: Make any sense?
• 25:37
  Jon: No, no.
• 25:38
  You,
• 25:38
  Ryan: No.
• 25:40
  Jon: you, you've completely, completely have to abandon any sense
• 25:44
  of realism in these deaths now.
• 25:46
  Kearns: what's interesting about that air conditioner falling though is do
• 25:50
  you think the monkey was going for hell or do you think because I don't
• 25:53
  think the monkey makes mistakes.
• 25:54
  Oh, you
• 25:54
  Jon: No,
• 25:55
  Kearns: going for,
• 25:56
  Jon: I think Hal just got out of the way.
• 25:59
  Kearns: wow.
• 25:59
  Because I don't think the monkey missed
• 26:01
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 26:02
  Although,
• 26:03
  Ryan: be
• 26:03
  Jon: I mean, as they had theorized when they were kids, the monkey
• 26:09
  doesn't come for the key turner.
• 26:11
  And at that point, how maybe the most recent key turner,
• 26:17
  Kearns: is that before or after the dude buys it at the, uh, yard sale.
• 26:20
  Jon: it's about the same.
• 26:23
  Kearns: Okay.
• 26:23
  Jon: It it,
• 26:24
  Kearns: might
• 26:24
  Jon: yeah.
• 26:25
  No, bill doesn't get it till a little bit later.
• 26:29
  Kearns: Okay.
• 26:30
  Ryan: Okay.
• 26:33
  Okay, so then that would make sense.
• 26:35
  That's maybe close calls.
• 26:37
  I feel it.
• 26:38
  We're not dealing with like final destination where it's
• 26:40
  like, okay, you miss like this
• 26:43
  Jon: No.
• 26:43
  Ryan: gonna die in the next scene.
• 26:45
  Like I feel like it could be possible.
• 26:47
  Accidents can happen, but I
• 26:49
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 26:49
  Ryan: since he was the last one to turn the key,
• 26:52
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 26:52
  Ryan: gonna die.
• 26:53
  Jon: You know what?
• 26:55
  I'm gonna, I'm gonna change my, I don't think it missed, I think
• 26:58
  it purposely missed how, just to remind him of its existence.
• 27:06
  Kearns: Got it.
• 27:08
  Jon: I,
• 27:09
  Ryan: that.
• 27:10
  Kearns: That could be it.
• 27:12
  Uh,
• 27:13
  Ryan: The,
• 27:13
  Kearns: did work.
• 27:14
  Ryan: clever.
• 27:16
  It's very clever
• 27:16
  Kearns: That's
• 27:17
  Ryan: it's,
• 27:17
  Kearns: the thing.
• 27:17
  And it's, it's a thin veil of, with the ridiculousness of the
• 27:21
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 27:22
  Kearns: like that, but there's meaning hidden in the movie.
• 27:24
  There's more to it.
• 27:26
  you would think, and as you're watching, you don't wanna miss it.
• 27:29
  So you're
• 27:29
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 27:30
  Kearns: you're hyper aware of things and pretty cool.
• 27:33
  It keeps you riveted for sure.
• 27:35
  It's
• 27:35
  Jon: Yeah.
• 27:36
  Kearns: done for what?
• 27:37
  It's let's get back to Andy Wilkes real quick.
• 27:40
  Andy Wilkes is the character of misery, and I don't know why the hell they
• 27:44
  decided to put her in yet A third alternate universe because she was also
• 27:48
  in season two as a rock, as a pseudo heroine that we actually loved her in.
• 27:53
  why?
• 27:53
  Why Annie Wilkes?
• 27:54
  Why?
• 27:56
  Why?
• 27:56
  Ryan: nod.
• 27:56
  Maybe
• 27:58
  Jon: Yeah.
• 27:59
  Ryan: to kill off.
• 28:00
  Kearns: She's not even that epic of a character.
• 28:03
  Jon: It, but it,
• 28:04
  Kearns: character.
• 28:05
  Jon: but it's a, it's a recognizable king name.
• 28:09
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 28:09
  Kearns: I guess that makes sense, but that makes even dumber.
• 28:13
  Ryan: Would, would you have been happier if it was a male named Roland?
• 28:18
  Kearns: No.
• 28:19
  If anybody else that is recognizable, that would be a nice homage.
• 28:25
  There's plenty of other female Lizzie story.
• 28:28
  You familiar with Ugg?
• 28:30
  That's girl.
• 28:33
  Jon: But I mean, is is,
• 28:38
  is Annie Wilkes the most recognizable of his female characters?
• 28:43
  Kearns: especially after Castle Rock season.
• 28:45
  She might be, besides
• 28:47
  Jon: mean
• 28:47
  Ryan: Bates,
• 28:51
  Kearns: it,
• 28:55
  Ryan: at least her death was quick and it was cool.
• 28:57
  I
• 28:58
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 29:00
  Kearns: it was cool.
• 29:00
  Ryan: by love and hibachi.
• 29:04
  Kearns: And hibachi.
• 29:05
  She was the best babysitter ever apparently.
• 29:07
  What did she say?
• 29:08
  They were, they were willful.
• 29:09
  They're, so, she said some really funny phrase about the boys being
• 29:13
  shithead, they're so willful.
• 29:15
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 29:16
  Kearns: They
• 29:17
  Jon: Yep.
• 29:17
  Kearns: things.
• 29:17
  But anyway, back to the present.
• 29:18
  So we're up with the, um, Hal and his son Pete are now forced to move motels
• 29:24
  Jon: Yep.
• 29:25
  And they, they go home to, they go home to Caco to at Bill's request to see
• 29:32
  if the monkey is in Aunt Ida's house.
• 29:35
  Kearns: and he is not, as we know,
• 29:37
  Jon: The monkey.
• 29:38
  Kearns: by the,
• 29:39
  Jon: Yep.
• 29:39
  this fun little scene where Hal meets the real estate agent and, you know,
• 29:44
  he's kind of directing her at, to where he wants to look, to look for the monkey
• 29:49
  Ryan: Yes,
• 29:50
  Jon: and well
• 29:53
  Ryan: they find a
• 29:53
  Jon: wrong closet,
• 29:55
  Kearns: what did they find in the closet, John?
• 29:57
  Jon: I a booby trapped shotgun
• 30:02
  that.
• 30:03
  Kearns: where um, bill gets the ideas for the booby traps because
• 30:07
  he, he home alones his place too.
• 30:09
  Jon: I think Bill has been living in that place for a while, and just gradually,
• 30:15
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 30:17
  Jon: eh
• 30:18
  Kearns: He had some good trip wires set up with
• 30:21
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 30:22
  Kearns: goodies.
• 30:23
  Jon: Yep.
• 30:24
  Yep.
• 30:25
  Ryan: Yep.
• 30:28
  But do you notice that it barely misses Hal too?
• 30:32
  The shotgun blast,
• 30:33
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 30:33
  Ryan: he, it misses him by that much.
• 30:36
  Rewatching it again, it's like very sly.
• 30:38
  And then you just see her Barbara explode and it's like, oh, okay.
• 30:43
  Jon: Yep.
• 30:44
  Yeah.
• 30:45
  Ryan: you're messing with like a lot here, dude.
• 30:48
  And he knows it, but it's like, he also warned her.
• 30:52
  'cause I feel like he, he knew he had a, he had a feeling.
• 30:55
  Uh,
• 30:56
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 30:58
  Oh yeah.
• 30:59
  I, I mean, I, it's clear it quickly becomes clear from this
• 31:03
  point that Bill wants, Hal did,
• 31:05
  Ryan: yes.
• 31:06
  Kearns: very much so.
• 31:07
  Jon: because he's, he's put together, he's put it together, he's put together
• 31:12
  that Hal turned the key, the killed mom.
• 31:15
  I,
• 31:16
  Kearns: is he aware or does he assume that Hal did it's kill
• 31:19
  him yet, or Hal tells him later?
• 31:20
  Jon: I think he's assumed it the whole time.
• 31:22
  Yeah.
• 31:23
  Kearns: yeah.
• 31:25
  Anyway, the, the father son, there's a dynamic building going on that sons
• 31:29
  resentful, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 31:32
  they continue forward and they're basically just learning
• 31:34
  more about what's going on.
• 31:35
  Well, how feeds a little bit more information to PD as we go about what the
• 31:39
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 31:40
  Kearns: with the monkey why he's a deadbeat dad, because
• 31:43
  he was protecting him from,
• 31:45
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 31:46
  Kearns: we, I think, I don't we're skipping much, right?
• 31:49
  If right to where he grunge, abduct,
• 31:54
  Ryan: Oh, Ricky.
• 31:55
  Kearns: I think we're right about
• 31:56
  Ryan: Ricky.
• 31:57
  Jon: Yeah, we're pretty much, we get, um, Hal's Bos gets killed
• 32:03
  in a vending machine accident.
• 32:06
  Ryan: well,
• 32:06
  Kearns: pushing, what, what was what he in that vending machine.
• 32:11
  Ryan: he was buying vape juice.
• 32:13
  He was buying vape juice and it doesn't work.
• 32:15
  He hits the machine, turns around and hits a rake.
• 32:19
  The rake, what?
• 32:20
  What is a rake doing in the middle of a building?
• 32:22
  First off, but he hits a rake and the vape just goes right down his
• 32:25
  throat and it's just lodged there.
• 32:28
  Anti-smoking ad right there.
• 32:30
  Done very
• 32:31
  Kearns: Yeah, it's pretty, pretty good stuff.
• 32:33
  then we get, what was his name?
• 32:35
  Rico
• 32:36
  Jon: Ricky?
• 32:37
  Ricky.
• 32:39
  Kearns: Ricky's fun.
• 32:41
  Ryan: We just had a Ricky and uh, sleepaway camp.
• 32:44
  Jon: Yep.
• 32:44
  Ryan: that episode out.
• 32:45
  Guys.
• 32:46
  Like subscribe.
• 32:49
  Jon: Yep.
• 32:49
  So
• 32:50
  Ryan: I.
• 32:51
  Jon: Ricky got the monkey at, uh, ida's estate Sale for dirt cheap, and
• 32:56
  then sold it to Bill who had, who had a personal ad looking for the monkey.
• 33:02
  Ryan: Mrs. Monkey.
• 33:03
  Jon: Mrs. Monkey.
• 33:06
  Kearns: So he gets the monkey.
• 33:08
  then he decides he wants it back because he looked into its eyes and he
• 33:11
  saw like memories of his father, which
• 33:14
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 33:14
  Kearns: funny.
• 33:15
  And so he tries to get it back.
• 33:17
  Bill says Go squat.
• 33:19
  Um, so he decides he's going to abduct Hal and Pete and get
• 33:24
  them to get the monkey forehead
• 33:25
  Jon: Yep.
• 33:26
  Ryan: Yes.
• 33:27
  Kearns: shows up with a little tiny gun and, uh, abducts them and drives
• 33:33
  over to where he knows Bill lives.
• 33:35
  That's good for Hal 'cause Hal didn't know where Bill was.
• 33:38
  Jon: Yep.
• 33:38
  Ryan: No.
• 33:39
  So everything goes full circle at that scene
• 33:42
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 33:42
  Ryan: Ricky sends little Petey off to do his dirty work 'cause
• 33:46
  of the little dog door, the little
• 33:48
  Jon: Yep.
• 33:49
  Ryan: door, and.
• 33:51
  While that's going on, he's going around these home alone traps.
• 33:54
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 33:56
  Ryan: Ricky talking to Hal and they're having like this heart to heart moment, I
• 34:01
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 34:01
  Ryan: Like he's
• 34:02
  Jon: And,
• 34:02
  Ryan: my dad left me.
• 34:03
  Your dad left me.
• 34:05
  it's
• 34:06
  Jon: and I, I mean, you know, it's coming the whole scene.
• 34:11
  Ricky's like scratching his head with the gun and like, you just
• 34:15
  don't know how Ricky's gonna get it.
• 34:17
  You know, he's going to,
• 34:19
  Kearns: You know?
• 34:20
  Ryan: that was gonna.
• 34:21
  Jon: you're almost sure he is gonna shoot himself in the head, but then
• 34:24
  that would be too simple for this movie.
• 34:27
  Kearns: Right.
• 34:27
  And boy does he not shoot himself in the head.
• 34:30
  He almost shoots everything else.
• 34:31
  Jon: Yep.
• 34:32
  Kearns: But that seems great with the, I mean, I just had to deal
• 34:35
  with a bunch of hornet's nests too.
• 34:37
  So the scene was even funnier to me.
• 34:40
  Jon: Yep.
• 34:40
  Kearns: a big bee's nest, Pete goes inside 'cause he can fit through the doggy door,
• 34:44
  and then there's a bee's nest right in front of the car that they just happen to
• 34:48
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 34:48
  Mm-hmm.
• 34:51
  Kearns: size and uh,
• 34:53
  Jon: And Bill is, bill is inside trying to convince PD to turn the key.
• 34:58
  Kearns: mm-hmm.
• 35:00
  And then outside, um, Ricky, Bobby shoots the gun off by accident, goes through
• 35:06
  the windshield and the hornet's nest
• 35:08
  Jon: Yep.
• 35:09
  Ryan: if he wasn't, if he
• 35:10
  Jon: As the key is turned
• 35:11
  Ryan: left.
• 35:12
  Yeah.
• 35:13
  Kearns: key Yeah.
• 35:16
  Jon: and,
• 35:16
  Kearns: they do this step is hilarious.
• 35:21
  It is so funny.
• 35:24
  Well, it's a laser beam of condensed wasps that shoot out of the nest
• 35:29
  through the hole in the windshield and directly into Ricky's mouth.
• 35:33
  Jon: Which is really, I mean, I hadn't really thought about this until we
• 35:36
  started talking another near miss for how.
• 35:40
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 35:40
  Ryan: it is.
• 35:42
  Kearns: It's three now he almost got shot like six times in the car.
• 35:46
  Jon: Yeah.
• 35:46
  Ryan: the, the
• 35:47
  Jon: I mean, the bullet apparently missed him too.
• 35:50
  Kearns: Since Bill is turning the key and Bill is a twin.
• 35:54
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 35:55
  Kearns: discussion that could be here,
• 35:57
  Jon: Yeah.
• 35:58
  Ryan: could work.
• 35:58
  Kearns: I It's that be the writer thought of that and was like the nerds.
• 36:04
  Jon: Uhhuh.
• 36:05
  Ryan: No, but it that does, that does make sense.
• 36:07
  'cause they're identical.
• 36:08
  If they're identical twins.
• 36:10
  Oh, okay.
• 36:11
  And that's because I was thinking about this in the
• 36:14
  beginning, maybe does you Sure.
• 36:17
  Bill doesn't have it when he's at the pool, because then that would make sense
• 36:21
  if he turns it, he's identical twin.
• 36:23
  That's why it's missing Hal each time,
• 36:26
  Jon: It's,
• 36:27
  Ryan: it.
• 36:27
  Jon: yeah, it's really unclear who has it.
• 36:30
  Who has it at that moment.
• 36:32
  Yeah.
• 36:32
  Bill could have had it by then and been turning.
• 36:37
  Ryan: Just identical twin theory.
• 36:38
  That's a, that's a good one.
• 36:40
  Jon: Yeah.
• 36:42
  Kearns: It is a good one.
• 36:44
  Jon: Yeah.
• 36:44
  Perhaps their, their DNA has confused the monkey.
• 36:50
  Kearns: I'm just gonna keep saying it.
• 36:51
  Ryan: The monkey.
• 36:51
  Jon: The monkey.
• 36:53
  Kearns: Hal gets out of the car and he mans up and goes to say PD the
• 36:57
  most, unfortunately named son ever.
• 36:59
  And is inside.
• 37:02
  They have this big reckoning moment.
• 37:04
  It's kind of, it's everything you already know, but it's a fun scene.
• 37:07
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 37:08
  Ryan: Yep.
• 37:08
  Kearns: uh, what's his name?
• 37:09
  Theo?
• 37:11
  Uh, the dude plays his hat.
• 37:14
  Theo James is a good actor and he
• 37:16
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 37:17
  Kearns: in roles.
• 37:18
  Um,
• 37:19
  Ryan: Yes.
• 37:21
  Jon: And you start to hear the chaos outside.
• 37:25
  Ryan: Yep.
• 37:25
  Jon: a plane crash and sirens and things.
• 37:28
  You can tell something's going on outside already.
• 37:32
  Kearns: and the.
• 37:32
  Ryan: went outta control.
• 37:34
  Jon: But inside, you almost get to this like, reconciliation between Hal and Bill.
• 37:41
  They almost get there.
• 37:43
  Kearns: they did.
• 37:44
  Jon: Yeah.
• 37:45
  Kearns: I would rubber stamp it and say they did reconcile.
• 37:49
  Um, and then the funny scene where he does the same kids where
• 37:53
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 37:54
  Yeah.
• 37:55
  Yeah.
• 37:55
  And, and you, get Bill with the, you know, you killed my mom.
• 38:00
  You killed my mom.
• 38:01
  And Hal finally explaining to him she was my mom too.
• 38:07
  And Bill's, Bill's sort of like dimwitted realization that, oh
• 38:13
  yeah, that was your mom too.
• 38:17
  Ryan: it took him
• 38:17
  Kearns: Makes sense, right?
• 38:19
  Ryan: it.
• 38:20
  25 years.
• 38:24
  Kearns: So,
• 38:24
  Ryan: But
• 38:25
  Kearns: um, they live happily after and they become best friends
• 38:28
  and no, that's not what happens.
• 38:30
  Jon: No, no, no.
• 38:32
  Well, Bill's traps come back to haunt him.
• 38:37
  Ryan: Yes, they
• 38:37
  Kearns: He's got a.
• 38:39
  Jon: Yep.
• 38:41
  And
• 38:41
  Kearns: this, the volley ball get primed inside of
• 38:46
  Jon: mm-hmm.
• 38:46
  Mm-hmm.
• 38:47
  Ryan: Mm-hmm.
• 38:49
  Jon: Yep.
• 38:50
  And the king.
• 38:51
  Ryan: off.
• 38:51
  Kearns: blows head off.
• 38:53
  Jon: With the, with the bowling ball with their mom's name on it.
• 38:59
  Kearns: Oh, perfect.
• 39:00
  Ryan: it 10 times better.
• 39:02
  Kearns: Perfect.
• 39:03
  Uh, then you're like, alright, movie's over and I thought they
• 39:07
  were just gonna cut the black and that was the funny ending.
• 39:09
  But
• 39:09
  Jon: Uhhuh?
• 39:10
  Kearns: to go out and, um, they, they decided to show what all the
• 39:14
  chaos going on in the neighborhood afterwards is pretty funny.
• 39:18
  Jon: You have dead parachutist.
• 39:21
  Ryan: Yep,
• 39:22
  Jon: You have a guy with a impelled by a surfboard.
• 39:25
  Ryan: yep.
• 39:25
  Jon: have a woman.
• 39:26
  Kearns: Also on, is he
• 39:28
  Jon: You know, you have a flaming baby carriage
• 39:32
  Kearns: oh.
• 39:35
  Jon: and a as all this is going on, Hal, Hal proves that he is his mom's son.
• 39:41
  Let's go dancing
• 39:43
  Ryan: Yep.
• 39:44
  Kearns: Yep, let's go dancing.
• 39:45
  Ryan: But
• 39:46
  Jon: then
• 39:46
  Kearns: And, uh,
• 39:48
  Jon: then you think it's over and it's still not over.
• 39:51
  Kearns: yeah, that's John's favorites because there were, there were shots
• 39:55
  of these troop of teenage or, uh, cheerleaders throughout the whole
• 39:59
  movie doing, you know, random cheers at
• 40:00
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 40:01
  Kearns: stuff.
• 40:02
  uh, they were hanging outta the bus, shaking their pompoms and yelling.
• 40:05
  And then another, a truck goes by and just cuts 'em all in hands.
• 40:08
  And that's the end of the movie.
• 40:10
  But there is a big thing that Ryan wants to talk about before we,
• 40:13
  we wrap up that that's the end.
• 40:16
  do get a little bit of a deeper, deeper cameo.
• 40:19
  Ryan: Yes, we do.
• 40:20
  Uh, right before, I think right before the bus scene, we have a pale, black eyed
• 40:26
  man riding a horse who is supposed to represent the pale horseman, uh, death.
• 40:30
  And he slowly walks by acknowledging
• 40:34
  Kearns: Let's pause this.
• 40:35
  You say pale black guy,
• 40:38
  Ryan: no, a pale black guy, man.
• 40:40
  That's what I'm reading from the Wikipedia source right here.
• 40:46
  Kearns: guy.
• 40:47
  Jon: It did.
• 40:48
  Ryan: hold on,
• 40:51
  hold on, hold on.
• 40:51
  We're gonna on this right now.
• 40:53
  So
• 40:55
  Kearns: Don't this Be honest.
• 40:57
  Jon: No, no.
• 40:59
  We should keep this.
• 41:01
  Ryan: a pale,
• 41:05
  Jon: No, he was really white.
• 41:11
  Ryan: a pale black eye man.
• 41:16
  There we go.
• 41:18
  OSA represent Death.
• 41:19
  The Pale Horseman walks by and acknowledges Hal and Petey.
• 41:23
  It's kind of like acknowledgement, like they hold death in their hands.
• 41:27
  The monkey, of course, as we acknowledge spring's death, it's random, doesn't it
• 41:32
  go after the person who twists the key?
• 41:34
  Of course.
• 41:35
  But it is death and I feel the pale horse at the end.
• 41:38
  It saying, you hold this reign too.
• 41:41
  for giving me this business, but you got something very important that
• 41:45
  you're gonna have to be careful And I know they're not doing a sequel.
• 41:50
  Thank God movie
• 41:51
  Kearns: They can't,
• 41:53
  Ryan: No, they can't.
• 41:54
  Jon: No, you have nobody left, nobody left.
• 41:58
  Kearns: in theory, this is the end of.
• 42:00
  Theoretically this like, uh, Neil Gaman wrote, we Get Them For You Wholesale,
• 42:04
  which starts out with a guy trying to get a few people killed from an ad in
• 42:07
  a, in a, the Yellow Pages over in the uk, whatever their version of that is.
• 42:12
  And eventually he, he gets such good deals on the killings that
• 42:16
  he continues to like double it and double it for 40% off or whatever it
• 42:20
  is until he just destroys the world.
• 42:22
  And I, I get that vibe from this.
• 42:24
  It feels like this is cascading out of control and I don't know
• 42:27
  how you're supposed to stop it.
• 42:28
  I know the dad hit it with a flamethrower at the beginning of the movie, but
• 42:32
  Jon: Which only paused it,
• 42:35
  Ryan: Yes.
• 42:36
  Jon: I mean,
• 42:40
  is the way for that family to not exist anymore because the
• 42:45
  monkey is tied to the family.
• 42:48
  Kearns: which is interesting.
• 42:50
  Now, does it get to, like, let's say all they all die, does it go to a new family?
• 42:55
  The next people who get get it, he just attaches to them?
• 42:59
  Or does he just kill everybody in the world?
• 43:00
  Right now,
• 43:01
  Ryan: Oh, gotta think of it like it's Stephen King universe, right?
• 43:06
  So you gotta think of all that weirdness, right?
• 43:09
  of it, I was thinking about like the shine.
• 43:11
  Because like the monkey's attached to 'em, the shine, right?
• 43:14
  The shine is attached to random individuals.
• 43:17
  It could be something like that where once this family's done it,
• 43:21
  randomizes goes to another family.
• 43:24
  It just appears
• 43:25
  Kearns: shine is more like biological.
• 43:27
  The shine's like the force that's like you're born with it.
• 43:30
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 43:31
  Kearns: Like psychic powers.
• 43:32
  Yeah.
• 43:33
  This is a monkey.
• 43:34
  Ryan: that ran well.
• 43:36
  a killer monkey.
• 43:38
  Kearns: It's a, it's a killer monkey with a demon attached to it.
• 43:40
  That's what I think,
• 43:41
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 43:42
  Kearns: but
• 43:42
  Ryan: especially.
• 43:43
  Kearns: wouldn't, I can't compare it to because it's just so different to me.
• 43:48
  I get like that.
• 43:49
  You have the shine or you have the monkey, like I have the mouse.
• 44:00
  Ryan: well, you know, I was, now I'm thinking about it.
• 44:03
  When he cuts up the monkey, you, you notice the blood that's coming out of it.
• 44:07
  Jon: Yeah.
• 44:08
  Ryan: That that was, that was interesting too.
• 44:11
  I, I
• 44:11
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 44:12
  Ryan: can't wrap my head around that.
• 44:15
  Kearns: We should, uh,
• 44:15
  Ryan: Like
• 44:16
  Kearns: I don't know if that's for movie effect.
• 44:17
  Well, yeah, it kind of is.
• 44:18
  Most of this stuff isn't in the short story.
• 44:21
  We should, we should lead with that.
• 44:23
  This is a short, short story.
• 44:25
  It's not very long at all.
• 44:26
  I, maybe 5,000 to 7,500 words.
• 44:29
  It's pretty short and a lot of this stuff is added, including the pale rider
• 44:34
  Ryan: yep.
• 44:34
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 44:35
  Kearns: that is not in the story.
• 44:37
  Um, so
• 44:39
  Ryan: are there, like the
• 44:41
  Kearns: yeah.
• 44:42
  Ryan: and all that, but everything else is just, yeah.
• 44:46
  I
• 44:47
  Kearns: This is like taking, like they bus up and threw frosting and
• 44:50
  stuff and made like a, a four-tier cake out of what was a bunt cake.
• 44:54
  And not to say that the
• 44:55
  Jon: Yeah.
• 44:55
  Kearns: good, but it wasn't this, it was not this movie.
• 44:58
  Jon: No.
• 44:59
  Kearns: It was a, it was a red coning of the monkey's paw kind of thing.
• 45:04
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 45:04
  Kearns: was kind of like that.
• 45:06
  And maybe even a nod to that story I was mentioning about gay men earlier.
• 45:10
  'cause that was a really popular story back then, right
• 45:13
  around when this was written.
• 45:14
  So that could have been it too.
• 45:16
  But yeah, did with it was great.
• 45:19
  I love the movie.
• 45:20
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 45:21
  Ryan: Same.
• 45:22
  Jon: It's, it's,
• 45:23
  Kearns: no,
• 45:24
  Jon: it's definitely a fun watch.
• 45:26
  They.
• 45:26
  Kearns: yeah,
• 45:27
  Ryan: Yes.
• 45:27
  Kearns: no definitive ends.
• 45:28
  Like no explanation of the end is kind of nice too, of how it wraps up.
• 45:32
  Jon: Yeah.
• 45:33
  Kearns: closure, if it's just dead, they're done.
• 45:36
  Uh, who knows?
• 45:38
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 45:40
  How and PD could be the last two people on earth.
• 45:44
  Kearns: Kind of.
• 45:45
  PD would make it
• 45:48
  Jon: Yes.
• 45:49
  Ryan: his glasses
• 45:50
  Jon: I mean,
• 45:51
  Ryan: fit like purchase Meredith in the Twilight Zone.
• 45:59
  Kearns: through's true.
• 46:00
  But yeah.
• 46:01
  Guys, that's the monkey.
• 46:02
  Jon: that's the monkey.
• 46:04
  Kearns: We're gonna run right into our top lives tonight.
• 46:07
  I'm it 40 minutes and 28 seconds into the show.
• 46:11
  We are running the end.
• 46:15
  Let's go.
• 46:17
  Ryan: So this week I went with top five eight movies.
• 46:21
  I said Ape, not Eight ape.
• 46:24
  So
• 46:25
  Kearns: It did.
• 46:27
  Ryan: I, yeah, that, that top five eight movies.
• 46:30
  It comes before nine after seven, um, but top five eight movies.
• 46:36
  And I'm gonna start off with, um, it's gonna be a mix comedy action adventure.
• 46:41
  And I'm gonna start off with Con Skull Island.
• 46:43
  Um, that's my number five.
• 46:46
  I do enjoy it.
• 46:47
  Uh, Tom Hiddleston, Samuel L. Jackson, John Goodman, come on.
• 46:52
  John Goodman, Bree Larson, um, lot of big names.
• 46:56
  John C. Reilly, who's great supporting character in the, in the movie.
• 47:00
  But they all go to Skull Island.
• 47:03
  It's in the Godzilla universe, the America version.
• 47:06
  And they can go investigate SC Skull Island and meet
• 47:10
  King Kong for the first time.
• 47:11
  And it's a different, I guess, interpretation.
• 47:14
  'cause most of the time you see him go to Skull Island, they
• 47:17
  take him back to New York City.
• 47:18
  He falls off the Empire State Building.
• 47:20
  That's it.
• 47:21
  This one, you see them kinda.
• 47:24
  Go in his element and it makes Kong more of a hero, which I, I liked, instead of
• 47:29
  making him that like, feared monster.
• 47:31
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 47:32
  Ryan: the good guy.
• 47:33
  Jon: Well, that, that's kind of where that whole series goes with Kong.
• 47:38
  Ryan: Yes.
• 47:39
  Kearns: like the, the beta, the beta alpha,
• 47:42
  Jon: Yeah.
• 47:42
  He,
• 47:43
  Kearns: call it that, that monster stuff is a hot mess.
• 47:45
  That's another thing where they really went, they went in a direction.
• 47:49
  They sure did.
• 47:50
  Ryan: I,
• 47:51
  Kearns: snow
• 47:51
  Jon: they made some choices.
• 47:52
  Kearns: good.
• 47:53
  I mean, it's still good, but if you like that kind of thing.
• 47:56
  But they, they showed us with minus one that what the monster
• 47:59
  verse was like, you know,
• 48:01
  Jon: Yeah.
• 48:01
  Kearns: 12 minus one
• 48:02
  Jon: Yeah.
• 48:03
  Kearns: any movie.
• 48:03
  The Monster verse had,
• 48:05
  Ryan: Agreed.
• 48:05
  Kearns: was good.
• 48:07
  Island was a good one.
• 48:09
  Ryan: And real quick, um, minus one is getting a sequel.
• 48:13
  Jon: Yep.
• 48:13
  Ryan: for that.
• 48:14
  Jon: Yep.
• 48:14
  Starts filming at the end of August.
• 48:17
  Kearns: The green
• 48:20
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 48:21
  And I think they're also doing a sequel to Shin Godzilla,
• 48:26
  Ryan: Yes.
• 48:27
  Jon: so
• 48:29
  Kearns: is exciting.
• 48:30
  Jon: plenty more of that coming.
• 48:33
  Ryan: there's gonna be good Godzilla movies coming out and
• 48:35
  Kearns: It's so hot right now.
• 48:37
  Ryan: Godzilla Kong, but
• 48:39
  Kearns: forget, there's also Space Godzilla coming to the
• 48:41
  shitty monster verse with all like the cage fighting monsters.
• 48:45
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 48:45
  Kearns: So that's cool.
• 48:48
  Ryan: I, I
• 48:48
  Kearns: That's cool too.
• 48:49
  Ryan: versus Con, and I'm happy I stopped there.
• 48:52
  But
• 48:52
  Kearns: gets pretty bad.
• 48:53
  Ryan: pick, well,
• 48:55
  Kearns: Thera good, but anyway, yeah.
• 48:58
  Ryan: uh, the, the door that Godzilla versus Con, that one, yes.
• 49:01
  And Um, but number four is his favorite of mine.
• 49:06
  Um, 96.
• 49:08
  Jason Alexander.
• 49:09
  Faye Dunaway.
• 49:10
  Rupert Everett, Paul Rubins.
• 49:12
  Dustin Dunton checks in.
• 49:16
  Kearns: Checks in my God.
• 49:19
  Ryan: uh, I, I love that movie.
• 49:20
  It's just, it's just slapstick comedy for a kid to laugh at all day.
• 49:25
  And it's just, it's a special place in my heart.
• 49:28
  And I had to put it on my eight movies.
• 49:30
  But at number four though, because I mean my next three, you can't really top.
• 49:35
  And at number three, we're gonna get loose every which way, but loose.
• 49:39
  Starring Clint Eastwood as a truck driver with his buddy who, oh, no, no.
• 49:45
  I gotta,
• 49:50
  now I gotta my number one.
• 49:52
  My number one is good.
• 49:53
  So, and I'm not fronting on that as the kids would say,
• 49:57
  but I know every which way.
• 49:58
  L loose is just a classic.
• 50:00
  Again, him beating up the biker gang, and this was at a time when Clint
• 50:04
  Eastwood, he's coming off that whole like badass act of like dirty Harry,
• 50:08
  the spaghetti western, and he turns into a fighting truck driver with a
• 50:12
  pet orangutan or best friend orangutan.
• 50:14
  number two, I am going with the 2005 version of King Kong.
• 50:19
  Um,
• 50:20
  Kearns: Another
• 50:21
  Ryan: I, yeah, this is the, the re, the third remake, um,
• 50:26
  or second remake, I'm sorry.
• 50:27
  Uh, the first one coming out from the seventies, um, 1977.
• 50:32
  Um, this one.
• 50:37
  Jon: Come on.
• 50:38
  Mighty Joe Young.
• 50:41
  Kearns: in the Zoom days, we.
• 50:43
  Ryan: age it.
• 50:46
  Nah, but King.
• 50:49
  No, you're good.
• 50:49
  Uh, king Kong was very big, uh, when it came out in 2005.
• 50:53
  Um, it was a lot of big movies and that, it just had a big feel to it and I feel
• 50:57
  like that was one of the final movies in recent times to have a big feel.
• 51:02
  my number one,
• 51:03
  Jon: Hold on.
• 51:04
  Hold on.
• 51:04
  I, I have to point out that is my third favorite of the Kong origin stories.
• 51:14
  'cause I love the seventies one.
• 51:15
  I grew up on the 71 seventies one.
• 51:17
  Ryan: yeah.
• 51:18
  Jon: My dad took us to a premiere of that one.
• 51:21
  Kearns: Oh, sweet.
• 51:22
  Jon: Yeah, we, we had like all these like posters that used to
• 51:26
  freak me out when I was a kid.
• 51:28
  Like it was awesome.
• 51:29
  Kearns: closeup of the face posters and stuff back then.
• 51:32
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 51:33
  Kearns: They were talking the stop motion that, I mean, that was classic, classic,
• 51:37
  Jon: And he, he's not on the Empire State Building in that one.
• 51:40
  He's on the World Trade Center
• 51:43
  Ryan: Yeah.
• 51:44
  Yeah, it was.
• 51:45
  Jon: and the, and the, the OG one is the best.
• 51:50
  Like, it's just a great, great bit of filmmaking, especially
• 51:54
  Ryan: Yes.
• 51:56
  Jon: when it was.
• 51:58
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 51:58
  Big.
• 51:59
  taking the model
• 52:01
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 52:01
  Kearns: off screen.
• 52:02
  Jon: All right, now you can get to number one.
• 52:05
  Ryan: Oh man.
• 52:07
  one, like I said, it's those damn dirty apes.
• 52:11
  It's the original Planet of the Apes that's, I watched, I,
• 52:17
  Jon: you swerved me.
• 52:19
  Ryan: I loved that film.
• 52:21
  My, my uncle showed it to me when I was very young.
• 52:23
  He was a big player of the Apes guy.
• 52:24
  He loves 'em all.
• 52:25
  Um, I love the first one.
• 52:27
  I love Charlton Heston and just.
• 52:30
  As a kid because I, he was like, I watched it at five, six.
• 52:34
  You can watch it at six.
• 52:36
  And as a 6-year-old, it's, it's, it's hard to get through, but I got through it and
• 52:43
  I can just, you remember certain scenes.
• 52:45
  You remember Dr. Zaas and, know, just, it's so good.
• 52:51
  I don't wanna spoil it.
• 52:52
  This one I don't wanna spoil.
• 52:54
  I mean, you should have seen it.
• 52:55
  It came out in
• 52:56
  Jon: I mean, yeah.
• 52:57
  Ryan: but
• 52:57
  Jon: Yeah.
• 52:58
  You have 57 years.
• 53:01
  Ryan: all right, fuck it.
• 53:02
  Just Charlton Heston on the beach, just screaming.
• 53:05
  And even as a kid, I felt that.
• 53:07
  I was like, oh man, apes took over the world.
• 53:10
  This
• 53:10
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 53:11
  Mm-hmm.
• 53:12
  Ryan: But it's
• 53:12
  Jon: You hit,
• 53:13
  Ryan: this makes so good.
• 53:15
  Jon: you hit a whole bunch of my childhood trauma because.
• 53:21
  Recurring nightmare.
• 53:22
  When I was a kid, the nice old couple across the street from us
• 53:26
  turned into the planet of the Apes.
• 53:29
  Apes, and it used to, I used to have that dream probably two or three times a month.
• 53:35
  Kearns: Harry and the Henderson showed front.
• 53:42
  Jon: It was rough.
• 53:43
  It was
• 53:44
  Ryan: see
• 53:45
  Jon: The apes was rough when I was a kid, but I, I love the whole series.
• 53:48
  Like it doesn't matter.
• 53:50
  Even the bad ones are good.
• 53:52
  Ryan: and that also real quick, stars an alums of ours, Roddy McDowell.
• 53:57
  Jon: Yep.
• 54:01
  Alumni.
• 54:02
  Ryan: met alumni.
• 54:03
  We mentioned him.
• 54:04
  was Inright Night.
• 54:05
  Fright Night too.
• 54:10
  He was on, on the
• 54:10
  Kearns: John, you
• 54:18
  Jon: Theist,
• 54:19
  Ryan: the.
• 54:21
  Kearns: don't turn off if
• 54:25
  Jon: make sure Roddy McDowell is there.
• 54:32
  Kearns: for this.
• 54:38
  Jon: So I went with a, what I'm gonna call a top five plus one because five, five
• 54:44
  of the items on the list are soundtrack songs, and number one is a movie.
• 54:50
  so my, top five plus one is a tribute to Ozzy.
• 54:56
  Kearns: Oh, nice.
• 54:58
  Ryan: Okay.
• 54:58
  Jon: Yeah.
• 54:59
  So the first five are all soundtracks that he or Sabbath appear on.
• 55:05
  So number six.
• 55:07
  Almost famous.
• 55:09
  Kearns: Oh, nice.
• 55:10
  Jon: you get paranoid and Sweetleaf.
• 55:12
  Um, I can't find where Sweetleaf played, but Paranoid was, um, William
• 55:17
  is going to interview Black Sabbath and it's playing in the background.
• 55:23
  Ryan: Yep.
• 55:24
  Jon: So, um, my number five is The Hangover Part three very
• 55:31
  forgettable movie, but you get NIB and
• 55:35
  Ryan: Yes.
• 55:36
  Jon: at at um, out as, um, Chow's party is going south towards
• 55:41
  the end and it finishes with him jumping off of Caesar's Palace.
• 55:46
  Ryan: yep.
• 55:46
  That's when they jump from the window.
• 55:49
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 55:50
  my number three is a movie we've mentioned before, but Ozzy, uh, cemetery man,
• 55:57
  his song Hell Raiser plays every time there's a motorcycle on the screen.
• 56:02
  Kearns: Oh, that's pretty sick.
• 56:03
  Jon: Yeah, yeah.
• 56:06
  Um, my number two is Ryan's number five or 4K Skull Island.
• 56:15
  Ryan: Yep,
• 56:15
  Kearns: Oh, sweet.
• 56:16
  Ryan: five.
• 56:17
  Jon: Yep.
• 56:18
  You get,
• 56:19
  Kearns: Where they're fighting.
• 56:20
  Are they running
• 56:21
  Jon: you get paranoid while they're, uh, dropping the bombs to geomap
• 56:25
  the island, and, and it ends with their, the first appearance of
• 56:32
  Kong to them, which is a big hand.
• 56:35
  And then my number one is the movie Trick or Treat, not
• 56:39
  trick or treat, trick or Treat.
• 56:44
  Which is so, um, and it's kind of fitting the death of a heavy metal icon leaves
• 56:49
  a bullied teenage boy heartbroken.
• 56:52
  Even worse, he realizes he may be the only person who can prevent the
• 56:57
  rocker from returning from the dead.
• 57:01
  Um, Ozzy plays Reverend Aaron Strom, who's, uh, like this
• 57:07
  ridiculous, like TV appearing priest who's like, moralizing it.
• 57:13
  It's such a, such a funny role to see Ozzy in,
• 57:18
  Ryan: What year did it come out?
• 57:19
  I have to ask.
• 57:20
  Jon: I think it was like 85, 86.
• 57:22
  Gene Simmons is in it too.
• 57:24
  Like, it's like,
• 57:27
  Ryan: so
• 57:27
  Jon: this is like, this is like peak satanic panic, afraid of Ozzy
• 57:34
  snorting ants, like that whole thing.
• 57:37
  Like that's, that's where we are in time with this, and he's on there.
• 57:42
  Playing a pretty pitch perfect British version of like a, Billy Graham?
• 57:49
  Kearns: Yeah.
• 57:50
  Ryan: Perfect.
• 57:52
  Kearns: And then what's the plus one?
• 57:54
  Jon: Yep.
• 57:54
  That's the plus one.
• 57:57
  Ryan: Nice.
• 57:59
  Jon: That was the last one.
• 58:00
  Ryan: list.
• 58:02
  Jon: Oh no, I skipped one.
• 58:03
  Ryan: Oh
• 58:04
  Jon: did skip
• 58:04
  Ryan: was gonna say, yeah.
• 58:06
  Jon: one.
• 58:06
  I did skip one.
• 58:07
  My number four was Dazed and Confused
• 58:09
  Ryan: Yep,
• 58:10
  Kearns: Oh, sweet.
• 58:11
  Yeah, that makes sense.
• 58:12
  Jon: because you get, you get paranoid in that one too.
• 58:15
  While O'Banion is enjoying his paddling adventures.
• 58:20
  I,
• 58:20
  Ryan: yep.
• 58:21
  Kearns: It's another good one.
• 58:22
  That's a great scene with the Slowmo cameras.
• 58:24
  Jon: yeah.
• 58:25
  Kearns: We had a bit of a surprise for you guys tonight though,
• 58:27
  because I'm doing it top five as well, because I thought he could
• 58:32
  Jon: Dons.
• 58:33
  Kearns: even king adaptations from short fiction.
• 58:37
  Only his short fiction though, not his other stuff.
• 58:40
  Ryan: Oh,
• 58:40
  Kearns: my favorite.
• 58:41
  Ryan: were asking about the Indian this earlier
• 58:43
  Kearns: Yes.
• 58:44
  Well, just a little curious about that.
• 58:46
  I'm just a little curious about that.
• 58:48
  But the first one comes from one of Ryan's favorite movies that he likes to bring up
• 58:53
  all the time, but we're not gonna let him talk about it because I wanna go fast.
• 58:56
  Goddammit, my top five doesn't take eight minutes, so I'm gonna say it
• 59:00
  grows on you from creep show, which is a great short story, great short story.
• 59:05
  Jon: That's the, that's the one with him, right?
• 59:08
  Kearns: right?
• 59:08
  Yep.
• 59:09
  And it's an homage to the blob.
• 59:10
  100% homage to the blob.
• 59:13
  And, uh, next is Silver Bullet.
• 59:15
  If you haven't seen Silver Bullet, you suck, and you won't
• 59:18
  stop sucking until you see it.
• 59:20
  Gary Bueys in it, and he plays an uncle.
• 59:22
  He's like, he's not the touchy in the bad place kind of uncle.
• 59:25
  He's that gets drunk and turns your wheelchair into a Harley kind of uncle.
• 59:30
  And that's what you want.
• 59:31
  That's what you want.
• 59:32
  So, silver bullet, um, isn't Fred Savage the kid in the wheelchair?
• 59:37
  Jon: Ah, he might be.
• 59:38
  Kearns: Savage.
• 59:40
  Ryan: I
• 59:40
  Kearns: It's Fred Savage.
• 59:42
  Um, yeah, that's, that's another phenomenal one that you gotta watch.
• 59:45
  The other three are a little bit more basic bitchy, but Mr.
• 59:48
  Harrington's phone was a really big surprise.
• 59:52
  Ryan: Okay.
• 59:52
  Kearns: it's a good story.
• 59:54
  It's a really good story.
• 59:55
  And I was surprised they did such a good job at the movie.
• 59:58
  was that Donald Sutherland in that who played Harrington?
• 1:00:03
  Jon: I didn't see that one, so I'm not sure.
• 1:00:06
  Kearns: I dunno if you like that one.
• 1:00:07
  I hope you do though.
• 1:00:08
  That's a good premise for a movie.
• 1:00:10
  It's another one where some spooky stuff happens through a cell phone.
• 1:00:15
  Stephen King did a novel called Cell as
• 1:00:17
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:18
  Kearns: seen the fourth one yet, but I'm putting it on the
• 1:00:20
  list anyway, because fuck you.
• 1:00:21
  That's why.
• 1:00:22
  And it's the Long Walk.
• 1:00:23
  waiting my whole life for this movie to come out
• 1:00:27
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:00:28
  Kearns: ready to put on my big boy pants and take a risk.
• 1:00:30
  Jon: Yep.
• 1:00:31
  Kearns: the, the trailer looks.
• 1:00:33
  So I'm putting that as number four.
• 1:00:35
  They did.
• 1:00:36
  I'm gonna watch,
• 1:00:37
  Jon: Yeah, they drive.
• 1:00:38
  Ryan: said
• 1:00:38
  Jon: was a, the trailer for that and um, the trailer for, uh, it,
• 1:00:43
  welcome to dairy were at, um, whatever Comic-Con was just over the weekend.
• 1:00:48
  So they both.
• 1:00:51
  Ryan: real
• 1:00:51
  Kearns: you think Joe Owen,
• 1:00:54
  Ryan: oh,
• 1:00:54
  Kearns: why I asked that question?
• 1:00:55
  I'm sorry.
• 1:00:57
  Ryan: They, they showed a scene from Welcome to Dairy
• 1:01:00
  and they, they cross a line.
• 1:01:02
  And how they set it up real quick, it's gonna take place, uh, backwards.
• 1:01:07
  So it's gonna start off, I think in the fifties.
• 1:01:09
  And then the next season's gonna go to the thirties every 27 years.
• 1:01:14
  And then the last season supposedly is gonna be the 19 hundreds
• 1:01:18
  introducing Pennywise to the world.
• 1:01:22
  Kearns: Nice.
• 1:01:22
  Ryan: concept going backwards 27 years.
• 1:01:27
  Kearns: I mean, it, it's the fourth time they're making this into film
• 1:01:32
  of, or on putting it on the screen.
• 1:01:35
  So they
• 1:01:35
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:01:36
  Kearns: new
• 1:01:36
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:01:37
  Kearns: can't just
• 1:01:38
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  You can't keep going forward.
• 1:01:40
  You've, you know how that goes.
• 1:01:43
  Ryan: I need the turtle.
• 1:01:44
  God damn it.
• 1:01:45
  They keep
• 1:01:46
  Kearns: I mean, a turtle is one of the very few, we only
• 1:01:50
  see one of the great animals.
• 1:01:52
  It's the bear in, uh, the books.
• 1:01:54
  That's the only one we see.
• 1:01:56
  Sharq.
• 1:01:57
  last movie.
• 1:01:59
  You won't sideline me for long, or what is it?
• 1:02:01
  Um, get me off track for long.
• 1:02:04
  I don't know.
• 1:02:05
  I can't speak anymore.
• 1:02:06
  Jon: I track.
• 1:02:07
  Kearns: is the last one.
• 1:02:08
  The mist is my final one.
• 1:02:09
  It was, I think it's the best of his novels, uh, novelette, and I'm talking
• 1:02:14
  pure horror, so don't get on my case because Shaw Shank was a novela.
• 1:02:18
  I get it.
• 1:02:19
  I get it.
• 1:02:19
  And I know John loves it.
• 1:02:20
  He already confessed his love for it.
• 1:02:22
  Uh, he's his favorite movie.
• 1:02:24
  Um, but there are a lot of really good movies that are based on
• 1:02:29
  his full length novels as well.
• 1:02:31
  This
• 1:02:31
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:02:31
  Kearns: a short fiction, and I love the Mist because he does everything right and
• 1:02:36
  he's a great guy and at the end, he still has to kill his family for no reason.
• 1:02:39
  And I just, it tickled me.
• 1:02:42
  Ryan: It just, it made me so happy.
• 1:02:44
  Jon: I think
• 1:02:48
  mm-hmm.
• 1:02:49
  Ryan: Oh yeah, it is.
• 1:02:50
  Jon: Yeah, I think the mist is my favorite of his.
• 1:02:52
  Shorter works by a lot.
• 1:02:56
  Kearns: Yeah,
• 1:02:57
  Jon: Um, um,
• 1:02:58
  Kearns: story of the mist has a different ending in
• 1:03:00
  Jon: yeah.
• 1:03:01
  Kearns: the listeners don't know that, and that's also quite good.
• 1:03:04
  I enjoy that type of ending more because it leaves it up to
• 1:03:07
  you to kind of figure it out.
• 1:03:08
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:03:09
  Kearns: was like, no, we're gonna tell you what goes on.
• 1:03:11
  Jon: Yep.
• 1:03:12
  Kearns: You see, the Army is a quarter mile down the road and he takes a
• 1:03:16
  45 and he offs everybody in the car, including his son, and then the mist
• 1:03:21
  dissipates immediately afterward.
• 1:03:25
  Ryan: That scene still gets me just,
• 1:03:28
  Kearns: brutal.
• 1:03:28
  And he's just screaming.
• 1:03:29
  They're like, torching spider cocoons next to him, like vision
• 1:03:33
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:03:34
  Kearns: lads.
• 1:03:34
  And he's just screaming in the
• 1:03:35
  Jon: Mm-hmm.
• 1:03:37
  Did you watch it in black and white?
• 1:03:40
  Kearns: Uh, no.
• 1:03:42
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:03:43
  Yeah.
• 1:03:45
  It's a, it's a, it changes the experience a little bit.
• 1:03:48
  I prefer the colored, ver the color version, but
• 1:03:52
  Kearns: That's true.
• 1:03:52
  There's two things mean different things.
• 1:03:54
  Jon: yeah.
• 1:03:54
  Yeah.
• 1:03:55
  The colorized version.
• 1:03:58
  Kearns: Version.
• 1:03:59
  This is gonna be a rough podcast for us.
• 1:04:04
  Jon: These are, these are misspeaks.
• 1:04:07
  Kearns: YouTube would like, uh, to send you a note regarding
• 1:04:12
  no, no, no.
• 1:04:14
  But yeah,
• 1:04:14
  Ryan: quick.
• 1:04:17
  The, the in good old technicolor, um, the black and white.
• 1:04:21
  I feel like you would, it'd be more tense.
• 1:04:25
  Like you hear like,
• 1:04:26
  Jon: Yeah.
• 1:04:28
  Yeah.
• 1:04:28
  Ryan: like
• 1:04:31
  Kearns: is something on the side of your.
• 1:04:34
  Ryan: I,
• 1:04:36
  Kearns: John, you should get downstairs.
• 1:04:38
  You should get near lights.
• 1:04:39
  Jon: Here.
• 1:04:40
  Kearns: something going on in your place.
• 1:04:42
  No, it's down the corner.
• 1:04:43
  It's definitely not you at all.
• 1:04:45
  There's like, it's just this
• 1:04:47
  Ryan: right?
• 1:04:48
  Kearns: thing like this, but it's not a finger either.
• 1:04:51
  It's, yeah, I saw it.
• 1:04:52
  It's, it looked like it could be, it looked like a cat.
• 1:04:56
  it again.
• 1:04:57
  There It's there was it?
• 1:04:58
  It was right there.
• 1:04:59
  Ryan: are, are you fucking with us, John, please don't tell me you're fucking,
• 1:05:04
  Jon: Oh,
• 1:05:04
  Kearns: It would be John.
• 1:05:05
  It'd be on your right side of looking directly at your camera lens.
• 1:05:09
  It would be near your camera lens.
• 1:05:12
  Ryan: Yep.
• 1:05:12
  Kearns: because it's barely visible to us and it's not there right now.
• 1:05:15
  Ooh.
• 1:05:15
  This is my favorite part of tonight's show.
• 1:05:18
  Just slow, lean in, look around.
• 1:05:24
  Ryan: If it pops up and he doesn't see it, you gotta get the hell outta there.
• 1:05:28
  John
• 1:05:33
  Kearns: Nice.
• 1:05:36
  Well, he's, she's probably gonna make it to the next podcast,
• 1:05:38
  but that was my top five.
• 1:05:39
  That'll be in letterbox along with Ryans and Johns.
• 1:05:43
  Jon: And we almost got it.
• 1:05:44
  Eight minutes.
• 1:05:47
  Ryan: Yes.
• 1:05:47
  Kearns: Yeah, you tried bastards.
• 1:05:50
  John.
• 1:05:51
  Uh, Ryan was eight minutes, 42 seconds.
• 1:05:53
  John was four minutes and 21 seconds.
• 1:05:55
  So eat it.
• 1:05:58
  Ryan: Have a good night.
• 1:06:00
  Jon: See ya.