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Previewing Week 15 vs. Jets With Tim Patrick, Pete Prisco and More · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Week fifteen.
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Speaker 2: JP Shatrick with you for our countdown to kickoff interviews
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Speaker 2: this week, and let's start with Pride of the Jaguars
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Speaker 2: running back Fred Taylor. The Jets are in talent at
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Speaker 2: three and ten, the Jaguars at nine and four. The
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Speaker 2: Jagson one four straight, five and one since the bye week,
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Speaker 2: and it's a pretty good time to be a Jaguar fan.
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Speaker 3: Fred, It's a great time to be a Jaguar fan.
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Speaker 3: That's see him jumping off the Red Bull blimp. That's
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Speaker 3: way up in the stratosphere. They're like just one and
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Speaker 3: in from everywhere nowadays.
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Speaker 4: But it's cool. You know, it's cool to.
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Speaker 3: Have fairweather fans. I mean, you're doing a really good
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Speaker 3: good job. If you bring the fairweather fans out of
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Speaker 3: it would work. But I think really for the most part,
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Speaker 3: the fans have been pretty supportive throughout the entire course
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Speaker 3: of the season.
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Speaker 4: The stadium has been pretty full.
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Speaker 3: That's what we want to see, and we want to
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Speaker 3: see this outcome. Quite naturally, no one probably anticipated this outcome.
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Speaker 3: With the new coaches staff, and you know, the new
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Speaker 3: front off is new regime change. You don't always get
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Speaker 3: this result that immediately. But Liam has come in, He's
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Speaker 3: did a wonderful job. James uh had Gladstone has done
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Speaker 3: a wonderful job. Tony Bucelli, you know, uh and his
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Speaker 3: new role has done a wonderful job. So this is
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Speaker 3: what you want, you know, from from the team as
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Speaker 3: a fan base, This is what you know. You you
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Speaker 3: anticipate year in, year out, and uh, you know, big
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Speaker 3: shout out to the du villions.
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Speaker 4: Is it do villions?
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Speaker 3: Can we make up a new word because sometimes we
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Speaker 3: are like the villains around the league?
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Speaker 2: Do villains do volumes?
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Speaker 4: Dude? We can figure it out. All lights do all lights?
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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's right. That's kind of soft.
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Speaker 4: I think that's a little soft.
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Speaker 3: We need something to kind of go with the whole
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Speaker 3: theme of, you know, do villions because we like the
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Speaker 3: villains new villains.
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Speaker 4: I don't know. We'll figure it out, all right, Fred.
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Speaker 2: The New York Jets are coming in three and ten,
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars nine and four. Is that disrespect word being
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Speaker 2: thrown around the villain to hear? The Jags have been
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Speaker 2: admitted from some of the national conversation the last couple
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Speaker 2: of weeks, but they're lead the division and they're number
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Speaker 2: three in the AFC playoff race. I mean, I guess
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Speaker 2: Liam Cohen needs something to kind of prod this team,
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Speaker 2: or does he?
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Speaker 1: You know what?
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Speaker 4: I go back to one of our episodes on The Pivot.
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Speaker 3: We recently had Darren Woodson on there, coached by the
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Speaker 3: great Jimmy Johnson, and he said, Jimmy Johnson would go
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Speaker 3: down and change ends. He would go to the offense
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Speaker 3: and say, Hey, those dudes talking you know, crap about
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Speaker 3: you guys, man, don't let that happen. He would go
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Speaker 3: to the defense and tell them the same thing, when
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Speaker 3: in fact no one had ever said anything. So really,
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Speaker 3: like in the words of my former and good friend
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Speaker 3: Trevor Mowai in one of his books, it takes what
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Speaker 3: it takes, you know, whatever that is, that's what it
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Speaker 3: takes to get your team motivated. I'm with it, And
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Speaker 3: what I would like JP is for the guys not
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Speaker 3: to mind the.
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Speaker 4: Public or the media as much. You know.
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Speaker 3: Now, if you want to put that up there and
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Speaker 3: it'll come across as bulletin board material, then fine. If
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Speaker 3: you need us or a motivational lead, great, But me
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Speaker 3: I like to operate under the radar sometimes unless you're
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Speaker 3: Mike DAWs, right, and then then we go and play.
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Speaker 3: Then we still have to compete on Sundays and get
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Speaker 3: the victories. Then, so I'll let my play due to
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Speaker 3: talking if it were me from here on out, and
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Speaker 3: then I'll meet you where I see yat, which is
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Speaker 3: hopefully playing football late in January and early February.
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Speaker 5: I like it.
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Speaker 2: Fred Taylor with us last week, Trevor Lawrence had a
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Speaker 2: deep completion in each quarter. That's a great sign for
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Speaker 2: this offense. If they're having a connection down the field,
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Speaker 2: it opens up a lot of things moving ahead.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, way back Willie. What's his name is it?
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Speaker 1: Willie?
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Speaker 3: Some stuff I'm hearing on social media about Willy is
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Speaker 3: like his alter ego or something like that. They say
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Speaker 3: he's turning Willie when he makes those type of plays.
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Speaker 3: I don't even know what that means. But maybe we
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Speaker 3: could do some research something I saw on social media,
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Speaker 3: or maybe you can ask the guys in the locker
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Speaker 3: room who will he is.
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Speaker 4: But you know, Trevor, you know, we all thought that
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Speaker 4: was one of his best games.
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Speaker 3: In regardless of that, you don't have to have those
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Speaker 3: high performance statistically type games. You just have to have
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Speaker 3: that consistent feel, and I think Trevor's been as consistent
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Speaker 3: this year in this stretch as he has been the
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Speaker 3: previous four years. Yeah, four years, right, and you know
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Speaker 3: that's all you want from your quarterback. There's gonna be
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Speaker 3: ebbs and flows, but you want more consistency. I would
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Speaker 3: take more consistent performances at that level than a four
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Speaker 3: hundred yard passing day or even a three hundred and
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Speaker 3: fifty yard passing day. Just give me consistency where you're
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Speaker 3: completing close to sixty percent of your passes, some big
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Speaker 3: plays here and there, great on third downs, and really
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Speaker 3: just managing the game with no turnovers.
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Speaker 2: Travis et And is closing in on a thousand yards
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Speaker 2: in a contract year, and you know, in the locker
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Speaker 2: room the other day kind.
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Speaker 4: Of just kind of shoot it away.
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Speaker 2: It's like we're battling for the division and the whole thing,
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Speaker 2: but as a running back in a contract year, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's it's a big moment for him and the way
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Speaker 2: this thing has gone this year, the way they've run
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Speaker 2: the ball pretty effectively all season. What do you want
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Speaker 2: to see from Etn down the stretch.
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Speaker 3: I just want him to be steady as well. I
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Speaker 3: guess that's my request from the Clemson duo is just,
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Speaker 3: you know, just continue to be consistent. They've been a
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Speaker 3: bright spot on the offense. You know, I cheer for it, Travis' success,
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm thankful. You know, I'm hopeful that he
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Speaker 3: continues to you know, play at dis trajectory so he
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Speaker 3: can continue to earn financially for himself and you know,
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Speaker 3: his future family prospects, if I would call it that.
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Speaker 3: But he's a good dude man, a good person, and
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Speaker 3: you root for good people. He has some ups and down,
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Speaker 3: but he stayed steady. Some part of it I'm familiar with,
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Speaker 3: but you know, he kind of just shoot the critics away, man.
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Speaker 3: And he's now fifty yards per game. If he can
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Speaker 3: average that much to finish the season, which I believe
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Speaker 3: he can, then he'll eclips his own single season career mark,
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Speaker 3: getting close to twelve hundred yards right there on the ground.
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Speaker 3: So I'm rooting for him, and I'm sure he knows
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Speaker 3: he has my full support.
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Speaker 2: Brent Taylor with US Jaguars defense this week, going up
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Speaker 2: against the Jets offense that really struggling and they've had
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Speaker 2: quarterback injury issues. They're not sure, who's really going to.
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Speaker 4: Play this week?
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Speaker 2: Could be the third guy, but you know, this is
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Speaker 2: a Jags defense. It's hitting its stride as well. It
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Speaker 2: feels like no matter who lines up against them, and
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Speaker 2: they feel like if they can stop the run, they
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Speaker 2: can play against anybody. How challenging is a week like this,
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Speaker 2: I guess really for the defense, but overall to be
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Speaker 2: up and ready for a team that's struggling like the Jets.
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Speaker 3: You know what they I think they know. I think
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Speaker 3: they've gotten a message. They've played all sorts of games.
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Speaker 3: You go out West Coast and play Vegas Raiders and
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Speaker 3: that was considered a trap game. It was a close game,
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Speaker 3: but mentally they got through it ot the whole deal.
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Speaker 3: Then they got to bounce back and play, you know,
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Speaker 3: another opponent and the Chargers, who were you know, a
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Speaker 3: game that they really needed.
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Speaker 4: They had to really get up for that game. Much
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Speaker 4: like the Monday night game versus the Chief, another game
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Speaker 4: that's easy to get up for.
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Speaker 3: This game, they understand what's that stake and I think
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Speaker 3: that's all the motivation they need. The fact that they're
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Speaker 3: hitting their strides. You know, they're comfortable, you know, in
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Speaker 3: Campanelli's defense. And you know, and I think, really what
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Speaker 3: it's going to come down to East guys just doing
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Speaker 3: their job, you know, remaining focused on their individual job
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Speaker 3: at hand, remaining discipline, which is what they've done a
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Speaker 3: great job at.
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Speaker 1: This year.
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Speaker 3: You haven't seen many big plays, like big big plays
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Speaker 3: for touchdowns, you know, some ben but don't break plays
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Speaker 3: where they might give up fifteen here or twenty year,
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Speaker 3: but they continue to stay in it and hold a
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Speaker 3: team to hold the opponents to a field goal, which
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Speaker 3: is what they've been great at. So they just got
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Speaker 3: continue to keep that up, continue to get guys healthy,
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Speaker 3: you can continue to support each other and they'll be fine.
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Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 2: It's a stretch run important December football, four games to go.
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Speaker 2: Texans are on their heels. There's no room for air here,
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Speaker 2: but nothing's been clenched. So this is what everybody signs
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Speaker 2: up for.
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Speaker 4: This is what they sign up for.
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Speaker 3: You got a three and ten team, probably the position
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Speaker 3: Jacksonville was in a year ago. Now they're top dog
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Speaker 3: in the division. Coach's got a long way to go.
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Speaker 3: But the Jacks can't look back because the pesky Texans
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Speaker 3: are you know, they're not far away, and they're playing
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Speaker 3: really solid football here late in December too, which is
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Speaker 3: when you have to turn it up, JP, which is
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Speaker 3: when I always turned it up. And this is you know,
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Speaker 3: it's unfair. I think, you know, I don't want to
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Speaker 3: even go back there down that road. But I'll just
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Speaker 3: mentioned I played my best football in December. Nobody's voting
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Speaker 3: on the Pro Bowl in December. I mean they're voting
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Speaker 3: on it, but they don't count the December games. I
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Speaker 3: feel a little slighted every time I think about that.
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Speaker 3: Come on, now, you gotta count the entirety of the
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Speaker 3: season because it counts if.
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Speaker 2: You play them, if they keep score, it counts.
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Speaker 4: You should. But I digress. That milk is already spilled.
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Speaker 3: JPA. That's right, a moment. I'm having a moment. Well
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Speaker 3: I'm entitled to those. I'm just having a moment.
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Speaker 2: It's okay, man, you're our Pro bowler all the time
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Speaker 2: on the show.
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Speaker 4: So man, you know I love me some Douvall baby.
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Speaker 5: Thanks Fred.
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Speaker 2: All right, brother, Now to the locker room, where Brian
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Speaker 2: Sexson caught up with better wide receiver Tim Patrick.
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Speaker 6: Been around a team that's made a deep run with expectations,
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Speaker 6: how do you compare this team. What do you see
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Speaker 6: in this team that gives you the sense that maybe
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Speaker 6: they're like other teams you've been on that are ready
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Speaker 6: for the run.
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Speaker 7: This team is a little bit different than what I've
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Speaker 7: been a part of last year. Being with Detroit, we
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Speaker 7: knew who we were and we knew what we were
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Speaker 7: capable of, and it was just about us performing on
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Speaker 7: game day. This team, we've been learning each and every week,
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Speaker 7: finding the identity, not playing our best ball yet, but
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Speaker 7: still winning games. And it's just one of those things
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Speaker 7: where it's all about who gets hot at the right time,
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Speaker 7: and I feel like we're on track to do that.
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Speaker 6: There are a couple of guys like you, Jacobe being
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Speaker 6: another and Greg Newsom who came in here after training camp,
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Speaker 6: and yet you've assimilated it and become a part of
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Speaker 6: this thing so quickly. What's that like to go from
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Speaker 6: being someplace to another place and not just standing on
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Speaker 6: the sidelines.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard.
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Speaker 7: You're learning whole new system and you don't really know
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Speaker 7: how to verbalize it to the coaches what they're trying
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Speaker 7: to have you do. But it's a testament to them.
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Speaker 7: Bringing in It just shows that they're just bringing in
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Speaker 7: football players guys that fit in all schemes. It doesn't
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Speaker 7: matter situation you put them in, they're going to be successful.
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Speaker 7: So shout out to them.
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Speaker 6: You were talking about the quarterback earlier. In some of
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Speaker 6: the throws that he made. It sure seems like he's
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Speaker 6: finding his stride as a receiver. Do you see that, Yes,
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Speaker 6: he's been.
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Speaker 7: He's been having full control of our offense and just
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Speaker 7: carrying us like, even when they might not be the
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Speaker 7: best play, he makes something happen. Maybe if the receivers
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Speaker 7: don't get open, he makes something happen. And he's he's
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Speaker 7: fully taking control of this offense and it's shawing weekend
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Speaker 7: and week out with the big ones be having.
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Speaker 6: You give me a sense of this offensive wide receiver group.
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Speaker 6: It appears you've got like a basketball team. You've got
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Speaker 6: somebody that can play every position. What's it like to
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Speaker 6: have that kind of a group this late in the
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Speaker 6: season and everyone's getting healthy? Dangerous for someone else? Isn't
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Speaker 6: it competitive?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: Very competitive.
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Speaker 7: It's fun because it gives a coach more confidence. Is
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Speaker 7: a call open up the playbook because he knows every
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Speaker 7: guy could go out there and make a play. And
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Speaker 7: it's competitive on our side, like who could get open
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Speaker 7: more on film so you could get the ball, Moorse.
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Speaker 7: It's it's just one of those things where we're in
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Speaker 7: competition with ourselves to see who could do the best.
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Speaker 6: I'm sure the competitiveness there is for the rock, which
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Speaker 6: means you're blocking downfield, Kelly. He was just telling me,
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Speaker 6: takes all eleven in the running game, and this team
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Speaker 6: is running the ball well to set up the passing game.
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Speaker 6: What's your perspective on the way that these guys block
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Speaker 6: and how much it produces.
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Speaker 5: It's it's fun.
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Speaker 6: The way you're having fun.
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Speaker 4: I take it a.
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Speaker 7: Lot of fun, a lot of fun. It's a blocking
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Speaker 7: is all a want too man, either one to or
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Speaker 7: you don't. And when all eleven takes pride in it,
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Speaker 7: you have a great running game. And it's just when
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Speaker 7: you see receivers and tidings that get excited for a
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Speaker 7: touchdown run, you know you know you're doing something right.
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Speaker 6: Final thought, you came from Detroit to Jacksonville, which was
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Speaker 6: coming off a win season. You couldn't have known what
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Speaker 6: you were getting. How much fun are you having with
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Speaker 6: this football team right now? And you've used the word
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Speaker 6: fun several times. And I don't mean to keep hammering it,
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Speaker 6: but you must feel really good about the spot that
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Speaker 6: you're in.
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Speaker 5: I feel great.
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Speaker 7: I knew when I was told my choices of where
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Speaker 7: I could go. I looked at the roster and seeing
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Speaker 7: they had so much talent, and all it took was
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Speaker 7: the right head man to really hone in on the talent.
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Speaker 7: And everything I thought was going to happen here is happening.
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Speaker 7: It probably didn't happen as fast, but it's happening slowly
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Speaker 7: but surely.
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Speaker 2: Mike Dempsey each week discuss the Jaguars football with CBS
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Speaker 2: senior writer Pete Prisco.
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Speaker 8: Well, what I would do is I would reference that
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Speaker 8: Tennessee game from a couple of weeks ago, because it
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Speaker 8: was classic same type of situation. Although you weren't coming
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Speaker 8: off with a big, big win like you did last week.
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Speaker 8: You were coming off a road win. You came home
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Speaker 8: and then you had to go back out on the
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Speaker 8: road in between playing the Colts and what was a
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Speaker 8: big game, and they handled business and do the same thing.
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Speaker 8: You know, if I'm Liam Cohnham telling them, look, get
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Speaker 8: on them early in the game and in the second half.
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Speaker 8: You don't have to sweat it out and worry about it.
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Speaker 8: So I think that's what you have to do. You
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Speaker 8: got to go back to what your experience has been.
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Speaker 8: And I think that's one of the recent ones and
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Speaker 8: I think they can build on that.
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Speaker 9: And speaking of building on it, Trevor Lawrence has given
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Speaker 9: a couple of really good performances the last couple of weeks,
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Speaker 9: particularly last week was very sharp throwing the ball downfield.
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Speaker 1: Pete.
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Speaker 9: You're going up against a team that has not produced
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Speaker 9: an interception all year. This seems like a great another
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Speaker 9: stepping stone for Trevor to continue to build that confidence.
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, and I think you know, you look around that
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Speaker 8: team and what people always ask, well, why is he
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Speaker 8: playing better football? If the offensive line is protecting better,
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Speaker 8: his eye level isn't coming down, he's standing in the pocket,
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Speaker 8: he's got a better pocket feel. I think the receivers
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Speaker 8: are more reliable and he trusts them a lot more.
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Speaker 8: And when you see it, yeah, he's you know, he's
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Speaker 8: getting the ball out, he's taking those shots down the field,
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Speaker 8: and I think that's changed the dynamic of the offense.
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Speaker 8: And obviously this is a game where you can try
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Speaker 8: and build on that before you get to some bigger
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Speaker 8: games down the road.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, we've raved about the impact that Jacoby Myers has
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Speaker 9: made in terms of the consistent and seeing the trust factor.
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Speaker 9: But Brian Thomas has come back in the last couple
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Speaker 9: of weeks and made a numerous big plays.
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Speaker 1: Pete, how big is that?
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Speaker 9: Just to have that element back of stretching the field
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Speaker 9: in this passing game, Well, it's enormous.
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Speaker 8: You know, you can't play, you know, with a force
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Speaker 8: field at twenty yards. I think you've got to be
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Speaker 8: able to stretch the defense and take those shots down
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Speaker 8: the field. And Brian Thomas is that guy. And I
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Speaker 8: think getting Jacoby Myers has kind of, you know, bled
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Speaker 8: over to him as a player, but it's also bled
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Speaker 8: over into the offense because Jacoby Myers can do the
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Speaker 8: dirty work in the middle of the field. He's one
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Speaker 8: of those guys you can rely on. He's a pros pro.
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Speaker 8: And I think Brian Thomas is the last couple of
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Speaker 8: weeks since coming back, his routes are crisper, he looks
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Speaker 8: more engaged, his body language is better, and I think
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Speaker 8: he's you know, being able to make plays down the
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Speaker 8: field gets him going. So I think it's an enormous
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Speaker 8: part of what they do going forward.
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Speaker 9: Well, you mentioned the offensive line play as well, and
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Speaker 9: Cole van Landon has been a big part of that.
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Speaker 9: A versatile tool can play just about anywhere on that
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Speaker 9: line and play pretty well. Pete and a lot of
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Speaker 9: people are calling for that to be the move at
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Speaker 9: left tackle now, and there is value, I think, to
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Speaker 9: having a guy who's the next man up at so
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Speaker 9: many positions because then if you have an injury, you
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Speaker 9: don't have to shuffle things around at multiple spots. But
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Speaker 9: if it were up to you, Pete Prisco is running
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Speaker 9: the Jaguars, would Cole vang land And be your starting left.
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Speaker 8: Tackle, absolutely, no question about it. I thought he was
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Speaker 8: outstanding last week, really held up in pass protection, good
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Speaker 8: in the run game. You know, plays with a violent streak.
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Speaker 8: And I think he's the guy that has to start
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Speaker 8: at left tackle now. I know there's value of him
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Speaker 8: being able to play all those other positions, but you
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Speaker 8: can still shuffle in game if need be. I just
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Speaker 8: think the value is there for him to be your
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Speaker 8: starting left tackle.
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Speaker 9: All right, let's switch it over to the defense here.
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Speaker 9: Pete and without Andrew Winger last week, they had been
16:46
Speaker 9: without Eric Murray for a while. He came back, but
16:49
Speaker 9: in the meantime, Antonio Johnson says quietly, putting together a
16:52
Speaker 9: pretty nice season. It seems like a good problem to have.
16:54
Speaker 9: They got three safeties really for two spots, but you.
16:58
Speaker 8: Know they'll use a lot of defenses where they play, yeah,
17:00
Speaker 8: so you know that's a you know, and both Johnson
17:03
Speaker 8: and wingerd are probably better near the line of scrimmage
17:06
Speaker 8: than they are in the deep middle. So it's a
17:09
Speaker 8: nice situation to have. You mentioned Johnson. I think the
17:11
Speaker 8: biggest difference for him is understanding the assignments and playing
17:15
Speaker 8: assignment football. Remember early in the year he had some
17:18
Speaker 8: assignment bus He had a lot of them last year.
17:20
Speaker 1: But he seems to.
17:21
Speaker 8: Be growing in confidence, and he's an athletic kid. He
17:24
Speaker 8: can come up and play in the box and hit
17:26
Speaker 8: gen tackle you. And I think Murray is kind of
17:28
Speaker 8: a blue back there, and I think he needs to
17:30
Speaker 8: be a big part of the defense. So you can
17:32
Speaker 8: use all three of them. I don't know which two
17:35
Speaker 8: you'll start, but I would imagine it would probably go
17:37
Speaker 8: back to what it was before Murray went out of
17:39
Speaker 8: the lineup well, and.
17:40
Speaker 9: They've shown a willingness to just play whoever's playing the
17:43
Speaker 9: best football right now. You've got some guys who are
17:45
Speaker 9: not in household names at the beginning of the year
17:47
Speaker 9: getting a lot of reps, particularly on the defensive line.
17:50
Speaker 9: Danny Strigo, Matt Dickerson's snaps have been increasing in recent weeks.
17:54
Speaker 9: What does that say about this coaching staff that they're
17:56
Speaker 9: finding kind of some diamonds in the rough.
17:59
Speaker 8: And you know what, the old at their mistakes as
18:01
Speaker 8: an organization, which I like. I mean, you know, you
18:03
Speaker 8: you went out and got some veterans and those guys,
18:05
Speaker 8: you know, Austin Johnson and Ogwa we're in active last
18:07
Speaker 8: week and you played the young guys. And Strigil has
18:09
Speaker 8: been a revelation. I mean, let's be real, nobody saw
18:12
Speaker 8: that coming. He's not, you know, he's not an athletically
18:15
Speaker 8: gifted guy in terms of being able to get Ben
18:17
Speaker 8: to turn the corner before. He plays hard. He's good
18:19
Speaker 8: against the run, he'll crack down on blocks, and I
18:22
Speaker 8: think he's a nice addition to that defensive front. And
18:26
Speaker 8: you mentioned Dickerson. Dickerson's been you know, up and down,
18:28
Speaker 8: and he's done a nice job and he's earned himself
18:30
Speaker 8: in elevation. So I'm the same way. You play the
18:33
Speaker 8: best players, and right now those guys are the best players.
18:36
Speaker 9: Pete, what's your prediction for today?
18:38
Speaker 8: I think they get on them early, and just like
18:41
Speaker 8: the Titans game, don't have to sweat it out in
18:42
Speaker 8: the second half. This is not a good Jets football team.
18:45
Speaker 8: You don't want to get caught in the fourth quarter
18:48
Speaker 8: in a game, and so don't turn it over. Play
18:50
Speaker 8: your game. You'll handle the Jets, and then you move
18:52
Speaker 8: on to Denver and worry about bigger and better things
18:54
Speaker 8: next week.
18:55
Speaker 2: Bryan Sexton this week with assistant offensive line coach and
18:57
Speaker 2: run game specialist.
18:58
Speaker 6: Kale Here's the first question, why are you awesome?
19:02
Speaker 5: I don't know.
19:05
Speaker 4: How.
19:05
Speaker 10: I guess how I was raised, you know, I just
19:07
Speaker 10: I have so much fun out of here, and I'm
19:08
Speaker 10: having a good time with the guys, great guys to
19:11
Speaker 10: work with, the line, the coaching staff, so it's nothing
19:14
Speaker 10: to be mad at us. I was just great to
19:16
Speaker 10: be here and having fun.
19:17
Speaker 1: You know.
19:18
Speaker 6: That's the feeling I get when I watch this team.
19:20
Speaker 6: Have they had fun all season? Or is there a
19:23
Speaker 6: switch that's flipped since the bye week? When this team
19:25
Speaker 6: is playing well? It gets more fun. Obviously.
19:28
Speaker 5: I think definitely there was a type of switch after
19:30
Speaker 5: the bye week.
19:30
Speaker 10: You know, obviously we didn't do as great as we
19:32
Speaker 10: wanted to going into the bye, but I think every
19:36
Speaker 10: week our guys just got closer and closer with each other,
19:39
Speaker 10: just the camaraderie. Speaking of online specifically, their bond has
19:43
Speaker 10: gotten closer. The bond with the other guys has gotten
19:46
Speaker 10: closer since the buye and it's really has been progressing
19:49
Speaker 10: through off the whole season. And I think that's what
19:51
Speaker 10: you're seeing now, is that that progression.
19:53
Speaker 6: And thirty two years of covering this leg. I have
19:56
Speaker 6: a statement from a guy that told me years ago
19:58
Speaker 6: that running the ball is an attitude.
20:01
Speaker 1: It really is.
20:02
Speaker 6: So tell me about the attitude of your offensive line
20:04
Speaker 6: and where it stems from.
20:06
Speaker 5: I think it stems from the guys that we have.
20:08
Speaker 10: I think it's it's, uh, you know, bringing the right
20:11
Speaker 10: guys together again and talking about the camaraderie with each
20:14
Speaker 10: other and how that's been built over the season.
20:16
Speaker 5: I think they don't want to let each other down.
20:18
Speaker 10: I think that that that bond, that that love for
20:21
Speaker 10: each other, for the game, for the pride of the unit.
20:24
Speaker 10: That's where the biggest physicality and aggressiveness has come from.
20:29
Speaker 10: And I think that has been shown as just their
20:32
Speaker 10: commitment to each other is being displayed on the field.
20:36
Speaker 10: And so I think that's how that's why we have
20:38
Speaker 10: been doing the things that we've been doing, is because
20:40
Speaker 10: of that bond, that trust with each other that they
20:43
Speaker 10: can play confident and run off the ball and play strong,
20:46
Speaker 10: play tough.
20:46
Speaker 5: It's because they trust everyone around them and that trust.
20:49
Speaker 6: We've seen offensive lines, you know, all offensive lines have
20:52
Speaker 6: had injuries. You've had some and no matter where you
20:54
Speaker 6: plug people in, you're getting strong contributions. Is that the
20:58
Speaker 6: trust you're talking about where guys trust another that they
21:00
Speaker 6: can play left guard or left tackle or right guard,
21:02
Speaker 6: right tackle.
21:03
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it starts with the guy. The players.
21:05
Speaker 10: You know, we have a lot of guys that that
21:07
Speaker 10: trust the process, that trust what we're doing, and they're
21:11
Speaker 10: committed to learning all positions because everyone knows, you know,
21:14
Speaker 10: one guy can be hurt and someone has to step in.
21:17
Speaker 10: And I think again, over the whole season, even going
21:20
Speaker 10: through the spring, it's like building the trust with each other.
21:23
Speaker 10: Even we didn't know who was going to start, who
21:25
Speaker 10: was going to play, It's like, hey, everyone's got to
21:27
Speaker 10: be on it themselves and everyone can trust.
21:29
Speaker 5: That the other guy is doing their job as well.
21:31
Speaker 10: So I think that's you know, we're kind of we
21:34
Speaker 10: had no worries if someone went down because we have
21:36
Speaker 10: guys that have like Cole, like Chumua, you know, Wi's
21:40
Speaker 10: been in there, Jonah has played a game like everyone
21:43
Speaker 10: trust each other because they've built that mind since the spring,
21:47
Speaker 10: since training camp, throughout the season. And I think that's
21:50
Speaker 10: what you're seeing is the trust with each other has
21:53
Speaker 10: been just accumulation of all that, you know.
21:55
Speaker 6: I asked Sean as he was walking off the field
21:57
Speaker 6: and said, what do you ask for your run game specialists?
22:00
Speaker 6: And he said, without you, he would always feel the
22:02
Speaker 6: day behind you. You're always looking ahead, You're always trying
22:05
Speaker 6: to have a jump on it. Tell me about what
22:07
Speaker 6: your role is run game specialist is all about.
22:11
Speaker 10: You know, I guess my my job, my responsibility is
22:15
Speaker 10: kind of get the guys, you know, seeing what we've
22:17
Speaker 10: been doing good at and seeing how we can you know,
22:20
Speaker 10: progress in that way because we have a foundation that
22:24
Speaker 10: we're with. It's just finding how our players are the
22:27
Speaker 10: best that they can be. And so sometimes it might
22:30
Speaker 10: be as much as a cool play could happen. You know,
22:32
Speaker 10: my job is to make sure like hey, you know,
22:34
Speaker 10: kind of hold back. It's like, hey, didn't work. You know,
22:36
Speaker 10: that's cool, but you know that's not what we're good at,
22:39
Speaker 10: or we're not we're not we're not at that level yet,
22:42
Speaker 10: or if we're not, that's not us.
22:45
Speaker 5: I'm trying to find us plays.
22:48
Speaker 10: I think that's the biggest thing that I can provide
22:50
Speaker 10: for our guys, for Sean, for our players is you know,
22:53
Speaker 10: you know, finding us is continually finding us plays rather
22:58
Speaker 10: than flashy plays.
22:59
Speaker 5: You know.
22:59
Speaker 10: It's so it's just and then and just being there
23:03
Speaker 10: as finding solutions. You know, things have kind to come up.
23:06
Speaker 10: The game is not black and white. It's it's you know,
23:10
Speaker 10: there's a lot of gray in the areas. And it's
23:12
Speaker 10: my job to you know, make sure that the rules,
23:14
Speaker 10: things that we have done, the things that we have
23:17
Speaker 10: progressed through the whole year, how is that going to
23:20
Speaker 10: marriage so that on game day they can play freely.
23:24
Speaker 10: I think that's the kind of big thing that I
23:25
Speaker 10: try to make sure that our guys have is to
23:27
Speaker 10: play free and confident when they're out there, no matter
23:30
Speaker 10: what they're going to see and the US.
23:32
Speaker 6: Obviously, it is more than just the offensive line. It's
23:33
Speaker 6: those three backs. Can you give me an appreciation for
23:36
Speaker 6: those guys and how well they work. I mean, I
23:38
Speaker 6: think Travis etn has been one of the best players
23:40
Speaker 6: on this team since the first day of camp.
23:42
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, Travis, bachel lequint, They've all been doing
23:46
Speaker 10: a great job.
23:47
Speaker 5: They all have a role. They all trust each other.
23:49
Speaker 10: Again, it's building that trust that we've built with each
23:52
Speaker 10: other in the line room. It's it's spreading through all
23:55
Speaker 10: the units, through the offense to the team. As you
23:57
Speaker 10: can see, Yeah, they've been doing a great job. They hard,
24:00
Speaker 10: they run hard, they have no complaints. They you know,
24:03
Speaker 10: they keep to you know what we're trying to do.
24:06
Speaker 10: They keep talking with the on line. And then it's
24:09
Speaker 10: seeming I think there's been a pull push of even
24:12
Speaker 10: our receivers too, going in there and blocking, and it's
24:16
Speaker 10: become a we always talk about the run game is
24:18
Speaker 10: all eleven. All elmen have to be on the same page,
24:20
Speaker 10: all limits have to be blocking, you know, and you
24:23
Speaker 10: can see it. Our receivers are running downfield, getting blocks,
24:26
Speaker 10: getting touchdown blocks, you know, playing hard and you know,
24:28
Speaker 10: that's what you'd love to see on Sunday, you know,
24:31
Speaker 10: when everyone's happy for the touchdowns and because.
24:34
Speaker 5: Everyone's doing their job with each other.
24:35
Speaker 10: And that's and that's kind of been the running backs
24:38
Speaker 10: doing their job, whin I'm doing their job, tight ends, receivers,
24:42
Speaker 10: quarterbacks doing great on the fake, you know, and then
24:44
Speaker 10: now you know a quarterback has ran the ball a
24:46
Speaker 10: couple of times. Now they got to trust what he's doing.
24:49
Speaker 10: So I think it's accumulation of all those things.
24:51
Speaker 1: Let's end with this.
24:52
Speaker 6: I think I'm watching a team practicing at a very
24:54
Speaker 6: high level and that's why you're playing well.
24:56
Speaker 1: Right.
24:57
Speaker 6: This team is really doing a lot on the practice
24:59
Speaker 6: field during the week.
25:00
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean we've been cutting down on you know,
25:03
Speaker 10: physical physical things and trying to get in more of
25:06
Speaker 10: protecting their body, and towards the end of the year,
25:09
Speaker 10: I think they took the mature level and each week
25:12
Speaker 10: they're maturing.
25:13
Speaker 5: More and more.
25:13
Speaker 10: As what you're seeing now, you know, playing at the
25:18
Speaker 10: technique that we need to be playing at. So I mean,
25:20
Speaker 10: have to be physical, but we're still getting enough out
25:22
Speaker 10: of the practice that we want. But you can you
25:25
Speaker 10: need to totally see in the last two weeks, especially
25:28
Speaker 10: right now, the level of execution and focus and discipline
25:33
Speaker 10: and technique is you know, we can protect the body
25:36
Speaker 10: but also go out and be physical on game day.
25:39
Speaker 6: So hopefully you're having a lot of fun today. Best
25:41
Speaker 6: to block against the Jets.
25:42
Speaker 5: Thank you very much, appreciate it.
25:43
Speaker 2: And finally this week NFL on CBS analyst Ross Tucker,
25:48
Speaker 2: nice to have you first time on the Jags this season, Ross,
25:50
Speaker 2: what's up?
25:51
Speaker 11: You know, it's not only my first time on the
25:53
Speaker 11: Jags this season, this is my first time ever doing
25:58
Speaker 11: a Jags game for CBS. I don't know how it
26:01
Speaker 11: worked out that way, JP, because I end up doing
26:04
Speaker 11: a lot of AFC South games. I mean I've done
26:08
Speaker 11: the last three years. I had to have done six
26:10
Speaker 11: Titans games, four Texans games, at least a couple of
26:15
Speaker 11: Colts games. For whatever reason, it never worked out that
26:18
Speaker 11: I got the Jags. So not only am I glad
26:21
Speaker 11: I'm getting the Jags when they're nine and four and
26:24
Speaker 11: in first place I'm getting I'm getting the Jags when
26:26
Speaker 11: it's absolutely freezing in Pennsylvania where I live. So it's
26:32
Speaker 11: been nice to be down here, that's for sure. And
26:36
Speaker 11: also you know they're good. I mean, they're good, they're
26:39
Speaker 11: playing well, and I'm excited for the fan base.
26:41
Speaker 1: I'm excited for everybody associated with the Jaguars.
26:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, what surprises you most about this nine and four
26:48
Speaker 2: team so far?
26:50
Speaker 1: That's a really good question.
26:52
Speaker 11: Yeah, there's a bunch of things that I think if
26:54
Speaker 11: you would have told me before the year that they'd
26:57
Speaker 11: be nine and four, I probably would have said, Okay,
27:01
Speaker 11: you know, it really worked with Travis Hunter and with
27:05
Speaker 11: Brian Thomas and they're lighting the world on fire, and
27:08
Speaker 11: Liam Cohen's offense and looking like Mike Evans and Chris Godwin,
27:12
Speaker 11: and you know that hasn't been the case.
27:15
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that's so interesting about.
27:18
Speaker 11: It is you would have thought that it'd be Air
27:21
Speaker 11: Cohen and you know, Brian Thomas would have picked up
27:25
Speaker 11: where he left off last year and Hunter with who
27:27
Speaker 11: they made the big trade, the bold move for. But
27:31
Speaker 11: I think on some level that has to make you
27:33
Speaker 11: feel even better as a Jags fan that you know,
27:36
Speaker 11: they got a really good team and they're playing really well,
27:40
Speaker 11: despite the fact that you know, up until this last
27:43
Speaker 11: game against Indy, you know, it hadn't been a great
27:46
Speaker 11: year for Brian Thomas, and they really haven't and aren't
27:50
Speaker 11: gonna get much from Travis Hunter, and yet here they
27:53
Speaker 11: are still playing really, really well, and really even Trevor Lawrence.
27:58
Speaker 1: Has been up and down.
27:59
Speaker 11: So I think a lot of the credit as a
28:02
Speaker 11: result of everything I just said has to go to
28:06
Speaker 11: Liam Cohen and the coaching staff, Anthony Campanelliot of course,
28:10
Speaker 11: and what he's been able to get done on defense.
28:13
Speaker 11: But I think that would be really encouraging if I
28:16
Speaker 11: were a Jags fan to think, man, we're nine and
28:18
Speaker 11: four and we haven't really even been firing in all cylinders.
28:23
Speaker 1: He kind of blew to that game against the Texans.
28:26
Speaker 11: It really makes you open your eyes to what the
28:29
Speaker 11: possibilities could and maybe will be at some point.
28:33
Speaker 2: Ross Tucker with us, the analyst for the NFL on CBS.
28:36
Speaker 2: The Jaguars have had a lot of in and out
28:39
Speaker 2: of the lineup on the offensive line this year. You're
28:41
Speaker 2: a former offensive lineman, so you know it's hard to
28:45
Speaker 2: keep that consistency, but it feels like, you know, they've
28:48
Speaker 2: been able to kind of handle some of the injuries.
28:51
Speaker 2: Week or two injuries here there the offensive line. Cove
28:53
Speaker 2: and Landon a big piece of that. But how difficult
28:56
Speaker 2: is that to maintain consistency on the O line when there's.
28:59
Speaker 1: Cons and changes, Well, it's not easy at all.
29:03
Speaker 11: And I think continuity, chemistry some of the terms that
29:09
Speaker 11: get thrown out there, those are real things, JP, I mean,
29:11
Speaker 11: I can just speak to that.
29:13
Speaker 1: You know, the more you play next to somebody, the.
29:16
Speaker 11: More comfortable you get with them, even like you and
29:19
Speaker 11: I get a chance to do games on radio every
29:22
Speaker 11: once in a while. You know, the second time we
29:24
Speaker 11: did a game, it felt even better than the first time,
29:26
Speaker 11: and the third time, and the more you and I
29:29
Speaker 11: get to do games together. That's just the natural evolution
29:32
Speaker 11: of life, I think. And so for them to be
29:35
Speaker 11: able to have guys in that lineup and still to
29:38
Speaker 11: perform as well as they have, it's almost like ever
29:42
Speaker 11: since Shad Khan hired Tony Vasselli as the Executive VP
29:48
Speaker 11: of Football Operations or whatever fancy title that Tony has,
29:52
Speaker 11: you know, it's like it's like he sprinkled his magic
29:55
Speaker 11: O line pixie dust on these guys. I mean, let's
29:58
Speaker 11: not lose sight of the fact that Robert Hainsey more
30:02
Speaker 11: or less was told by the Bucks that he wasn't
30:04
Speaker 11: a starter, you know. Patrick McCarry was more or less
30:09
Speaker 11: told by the Ravens, Hey, we think you're a swing guy,
30:13
Speaker 11: you know. Cole Van Lannon, I mean he might be
30:16
Speaker 11: the I don't know what if they have team awards,
30:19
Speaker 11: but he might be the most underappreciated, underrated player on
30:23
Speaker 11: the team. He looked darn good at left tackle against
30:27
Speaker 11: the Colts. He's played every spot and so I think
30:30
Speaker 11: that's what I appreciate as much as any is the
30:34
Speaker 11: makeup of the offensive line.
30:36
Speaker 1: You know, somebody made a decision there.
30:38
Speaker 11: I don't know how much of that's Biselli, how much
30:40
Speaker 11: that's Cohen, how much of that's Gladstone. But they said
30:44
Speaker 11: we're gonna get smart, tough, versatile guys in here, like McCarry,
30:50
Speaker 11: like Hansey, like Cole Van Lannon.
30:53
Speaker 1: And it has really paid off.
30:55
Speaker 2: Ross Tucker with US Jaguars defense number one in the
30:59
Speaker 2: league against the and it's about all the Jets have
31:02
Speaker 2: left in the tank as Brice Hole right now. They're
31:04
Speaker 2: on their third quarterback, so they really don't have a quarterback.
31:07
Speaker 2: So this Jaguars defense is poised to at least go
31:11
Speaker 2: again on paper, to have another strong outing.
31:14
Speaker 5: What scares you.
31:15
Speaker 2: Here's the question about the Jets at three and ten.
31:19
Speaker 2: How can they win and compete in this game? What
31:22
Speaker 2: scares you the most if you're the Jaguars looking at
31:24
Speaker 2: the Jets this week?
31:26
Speaker 1: A couple things.
31:27
Speaker 11: First of all, anytime a team is a big underdog,
31:31
Speaker 11: it's turnovers. I think we know that, so turnovers can
31:35
Speaker 11: always be the great equalizer in football at any level.
31:39
Speaker 1: That's number one.
31:40
Speaker 11: That's kind of obvious for this Jets team in particular.
31:44
Speaker 11: I'll give you three things. Number one would be sort
31:47
Speaker 11: of the unknown, you know, with having a guy making
31:52
Speaker 11: his you know, first started quarterback and everything that's going
31:57
Speaker 11: on there, you don't really know what you're gonna get
32:00
Speaker 11: from Brady Cook.
32:02
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he's the next Tom Brady.
32:04
Speaker 11: I don't know, you know, I'm I'm I'm obviously it's
32:06
Speaker 11: highly highly unlikely, but the point remains, you don't really
32:11
Speaker 11: know what you have. You don't have a lot of
32:13
Speaker 11: tape on him. I also say he definitely showed some moxie,
32:17
Speaker 11: uh some poise.
32:19
Speaker 1: I loved him at Missouri.
32:20
Speaker 11: I thought he was a super fun college quarterback to watch,
32:24
Speaker 11: and I think part of that's because he can really
32:26
Speaker 11: run and so that's the other thing that scares you
32:29
Speaker 11: as a defensive coordinator is when you're going up against
32:33
Speaker 11: the team where the quarterback's legs can be a factor.
32:36
Speaker 11: So you got the unknown, you got the legs being
32:39
Speaker 11: a fact, you got the turnovers. And then the big
32:41
Speaker 11: one is special teams. You know, they've won three ball
32:44
Speaker 11: games this year. They really won two games primarily on
32:49
Speaker 11: special teams. I won't say entirely because that's unfair of
32:52
Speaker 11: the other guys, but in large part on special teams.
32:57
Speaker 11: That's the reason why they were able to win those game.
33:00
Speaker 11: So that's the type of thing that keeps coaches up
33:02
Speaker 11: at night because you think, gosh, we can't let them,
33:06
Speaker 11: you know, block upon or return a kick for a
33:08
Speaker 11: touchdown and somehow somehow blow a game that we shouldn't
33:12
Speaker 11: lose because of that.
33:13
Speaker 2: Ross Tucker with US NFL and CBS. Final thought with
33:16
Speaker 2: you here about the AFC playoff picture. Broncos, Patriots, Jaguars, Steelers.
33:22
Speaker 2: Those are the top four seeds going into Week fifteen.
33:24
Speaker 2: Then there's a wild card teams back there too. Who
33:28
Speaker 2: is the favorite right now in the AFC? It feels
33:31
Speaker 2: like this is kind of a strange year. There's not
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Speaker 2: really a team that kind of stood out all season.
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Speaker 11: I'm going with New England. Yeah, I'm going with New
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Speaker 11: England because I think they're still the most likely team
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Speaker 11: to get the number one seed. And that's just an
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Speaker 11: absolutely massive advantage. I mean, the difference between you know,
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Speaker 11: having to play three games, including one or two on
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Speaker 11: the road, maybe even all three, versus just two games
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Speaker 11: up there in New England is huge. They've got, you know,
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Speaker 11: a legitimate quarterback. You know, they got an MVP caliber quarterback.
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Speaker 11: I don't think you can say that for the Denver Broncos.
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Speaker 11: I think you can say that for the Patriots. I
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Speaker 11: believe Drake May is that good. So you combine those
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Speaker 11: two things. Certainly, Rabel and McDaniels, those are not the
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Speaker 11: type of guys that will blink in the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: I'll go with New England.
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Speaker 11: But you know, I don't think it would shock anybody
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Speaker 11: if anybody came out of the AFC just because of
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Speaker 11: what we've seen from the whole conference this year. I mean,
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Speaker 11: you know, would it shock me if the Bills went
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Speaker 11: on a run or even the Ravens got their you
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Speaker 11: know what together went on a run.
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Speaker 2: No, Ross pleasure to catch up with you again. It's
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Speaker 2: been too long and welcome to Duvall.
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Speaker 11: Hey, I am glad to be here. It is nice out,
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Speaker 11: Thanks so much for having me.
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Speaker 2: The three and ten New York Jants meet the nine
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Speaker 2: and four Jacksonville Jaguars in Week fifteen.
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Speaker 4: Enjoy the game.