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Data Centers Consuming America · Booker Scott: Truth Be Told

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  Speaker 1: It's time for The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott.
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  Speaker 4: I'm seeing it again on social media. Just like in
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  Speaker 4: 2024 between Ron DeSantis supporters and President Donald Trump supporters,
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  Speaker 4: they really went at each other. And it was awful.
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  Speaker 4: It was terrible. I was a part of that as
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  Speaker 4: well on social media. My life was threatened. I was
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  Speaker 4: publicly doxxed. Someone threatened to tell everyone where my daughter
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  Speaker 4: went to school. That's what's happening again on social media
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  Speaker 4: as we go into these primaries. And I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if that is the smartest thing to do among conservatives
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  Speaker 4: at a time when we probably will lose the House
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  Speaker 4: of Representatives, possibly the Senate. Right now is a time
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  Speaker 4: where we really need to get together, not tearing each
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  Speaker 4: other apart. I'm Booker. This is The Truth Be Told.
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  Speaker 4: And thank you for joining us. I appreciate it. The
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  Speaker 4: race I'm specifically talking about is what is happening in
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  Speaker 4: Kentucky with Thomas Massey and Ed Galran. He is a
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  Speaker 4: former Navy SEAL, and he is endorsed by Donald Trump
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  Speaker 4: in Galran. There has been Thomas Massey and obstructionists there
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  Speaker 4: for Donald Trump and his presidency, and he is really
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  Speaker 4: a libertarian, kind of like Rand Paul in Kentucky. And
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  Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, Thomas Massey makes a lot of
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  Speaker 4: great points, and so does Rand Paul. They both want
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  Speaker 4: a small federal government, which I do too. They also
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  Speaker 4: want accountability and transparency. Guess what? So do I. But
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  Speaker 4: you cannot eat the elephant in one bite. This country
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  Speaker 4: got to where it is now after years and years
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  Speaker 4: and decades and decades of people in Washington, D.C. that
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  Speaker 4: looked out for their own interests and not the interests
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  Speaker 4: of the people. You can't change that overnight. If you
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  Speaker 4: go all the way back to the founding of this nation,
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  Speaker 4: it was never all or nothing, which is what so
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  Speaker 4: many people appear to want to have these days. I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to get into this Thomas Massey race here in
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  Speaker 4: a minute. specifically to look at Thomas Massey and what
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  Speaker 4: he has actually done because the vitriol on social media
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  Speaker 4: is astounding. And it's very similar to 2024. I don't
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  Speaker 4: believe we can afford to be that way right now.
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  Speaker 4: Is it time for people like Rand Paul and Thomas
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  Speaker 4: Massey to get out of the way? Run for the
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  Speaker 4: party that you actually represent, which is the Libertarian Party,
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  Speaker 4: not the Republican Party. but they both do and they
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  Speaker 4: both continue to obstruct when it comes to passing legislation
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  Speaker 4: and bills at a time when really we need to
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  Speaker 4: be taking one little bite at a time out of
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  Speaker 4: the elephant, not eating it all at one time. But
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  Speaker 4: before I get to that race in Congressional District 4,
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  Speaker 4: which the primary is coming up next Tuesday, May 19th,
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  Speaker 4: so you're going to need to know about this race
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  Speaker 4: if you happen to be living in Kentucky 4, which
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  Speaker 4: is northern Kentucky. Before we go there, I want to
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  Speaker 4: go to the story about Arcadia, California, Mayor Eileen Wang.
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  Speaker 4: She has been charged with acting as an illegal agent
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  Speaker 4: of the People's Republic of China. And Mayor Wang admitted
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  Speaker 4: to acting as a foreign agent from at least 2020
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  Speaker 4: through 2022, promoting PRC propaganda in the U.S. and acting
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  Speaker 4: as PRC's direction to promote their interest. She has agreed
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  Speaker 4: to resign from office, and she's also agreed to plead guilty.
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  Speaker 4: Just more evidence there of Chinese officials infiltrating America. What
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  Speaker 4: about data centers? What do you hear about this? It's
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  Speaker 4: in the news a lot, and it has a lot
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  Speaker 4: to do with artificial intelligence, artificial general intelligence. And if
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  Speaker 4: you have not bought my book yet, I really wish
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  Speaker 4: I could give it away to everyone. I just can't
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  Speaker 4: afford it. That would cost me money as well. But
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  Speaker 4: you can go to Amazon, put my name in there,
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  Speaker 4: Booker Scott, and you can find a book about artificial
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  Speaker 4: intelligence that we wrote last year and was published at
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  Speaker 4: the end of July, July 27, 2025. It has all
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  Speaker 4: five-star reviews. The name of it is The Fight for
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  Speaker 4: the Future of Humanity, Making a Case for the 28th Amendment.
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  Speaker 4: You can learn all about artificial intelligence. artificial, general intelligence, pseudo-consciousness,
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  Speaker 4: and what we can do about it, which is the
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  Speaker 4: 28th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Learn about it. Learn
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  Speaker 4: about AI. Don't be afraid of it. Understand that by 2030,
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  Speaker 4: the worldwide global economy for AI is going to be $ 15. 7
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  Speaker 4: to $ 22. 3 trillion, and with that much money behind anything,
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  Speaker 4: Things are going to go bad. But let's get back
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  Speaker 4: to the data centers. Let's go to the story in Georgia.
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  Speaker 3: New tonight, Coweta County has given the green light for
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  Speaker 3: the construction of a massive $ 17 billion data center. The
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  Speaker 3: Board of Commissioners voted last night to rezone the 800
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  Speaker 3: acres of land. despite fierce opposition in the county. Now
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  Speaker 3: plans for the data center called Project Sail are full.
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  Speaker 4: Steam ahead, apparently.
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  Speaker 3: Tonight, Fox 5's Rob Durienzo is at the live desk
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  Speaker 3: with a look at where residents are taking their fight now.
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  Speaker 2: Rob?
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  Speaker 4: That's right, Russ.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening to you.
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  Speaker 5: Well, it was standing room only at this Board of
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  Speaker 5: Commissioners meeting in Coweta County over this massive data center.
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  Speaker 5: And after hearing from residents Tuesday night, the commissioners voted
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  Speaker 5: 3-2 to approve the rezoning.
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  Speaker 2: This is a no-brainer for the county.
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  Speaker 6: And I will stake my political career on it.
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  Speaker 4: You can run against me.
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  Speaker 5: A tense vote Tuesday night in Coweta County as commissioners
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  Speaker 5: advanced plans for the $ 17 billion data center called Project Sail.
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  Speaker 5: Its nine buildings, more than 4 million square feet, would
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  Speaker 5: require more power than the output of a nuclear reactor.
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  Speaker 2: It's the right site for a data center project.
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  Speaker 4: It would require more electricity and energy than a nuclear reactor.
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  Speaker 4: this data center. This is one data center. This is
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  Speaker 4: in Georgia that this council is discussing and voted on.
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  Speaker 4: This is one data center. Look at how many data
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  Speaker 4: centers are in states. Go to Texas. Look at the
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  Speaker 4: hundreds that are there. Have you heard the sound that
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  Speaker 4: comes from data centers? By the way, what about water?
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  Speaker 4: What about the water that is used to cool data centers?
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  Speaker 4: At a time when a lot of the nation right
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  Speaker 4: now happens to be in a drought, do you think
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  Speaker 4: this is the time that you should be using all
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  Speaker 4: of that fresh water to cool data centers? This is
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  Speaker 4: something you need to understand. You need to learn about
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  Speaker 4: it because it's coming to your community. If it hasn't already,
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  Speaker 4: not only that, what about the cost? What about the
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  Speaker 4: cost of electricity? You're going to pay for these things.
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  Speaker 4: The government isn't paying for this. You are paying for
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  Speaker 4: data centers.
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  Speaker 5: While the head of the company behind the plan, Prologis,
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  Speaker 5: says it will boost the local economy, residents organized to
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  Speaker 5: campaign against it, fighting it tooth and nail.
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  Speaker 1: It creates an industrial island in a sea of non-industrial land.
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  Speaker 3: This proposed development is just 1,200 feet from Arco Sargent
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  Speaker 3: Elementary School and only 950 feet from a daycare.
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  Speaker 5: Those residents opposed to the project wore red, arguing the
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  Speaker 5: jobs it would bring would only be temporary. Those in favor,
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  Speaker 5: like Chad Caldwell, wore blue. He thinks the county could
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  Speaker 5: seize on the money coming from Silicon Valley.
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  Speaker 2: I know we need more money in this county. I
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  Speaker 2: know we need to work on roads. We need to
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  Speaker 2: build bridges.
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  Speaker 5: We need schools.
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  Speaker 2: And I think we're looking at it.
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  Speaker 4: And that is what's driving a big deal of this.
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  Speaker 4: And that is the fear of losing in this 21st
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  Speaker 4: century arms race that is all about artificial intelligence and data.
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  Speaker 4: data centers. What do you think data centers do exactly? Well,
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  Speaker 4: one thing they do is they have all of your information,
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  Speaker 4: every bit of it. And you worry about legislation and
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  Speaker 4: people like Rand Paul and Thomas Massey and others. I
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  Speaker 4: worry about it too. Who has my information? But I
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  Speaker 4: already know they have it. Let's just understand that they
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  Speaker 4: have your information. There's nothing you can do to stop
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  Speaker 4: it unless you want to get rid of your smartphone
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  Speaker 4: and get rid of your computers. It's the way things
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  Speaker 4: are in the 21st century. And that last man that spoke,
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  Speaker 4: he's right. If their county doesn't do it, they are
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  Speaker 4: going to lose. I would just encourage you to learn
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  Speaker 4: about data centers and what is happening in other communities
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  Speaker 4: before they do it in your community. Do some research
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  Speaker 4: on this because they are passing this cost along to you.
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  Speaker 4: They are taking your water. They are taking your electricity.
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  Speaker 4: And you are the one that is paying for it.
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  Speaker 4: in the name of getting bridges and roads. Because if
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  Speaker 4: you're not a part of this global economy, your community
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  Speaker 4: is going to lose. That's the way they sell this
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  Speaker 4: to you. But now let's go to Kentucky 4, Congressional
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  Speaker 4: District 4. It's a northern part of Kentucky, right there
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  Speaker 4: outside of Cincinnati, to the south of Cincinnati. I know
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  Speaker 4: that area. I lived in Kentucky for about 10 years
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  Speaker 4: and very familiar with Cincinnati as well. I spent... a
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  Speaker 4: lot of my life going through Cincinnati, visiting Cincinnati. I'm
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  Speaker 4: a big Cincinnati Reds fan, so I went to a
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  Speaker 4: lot of Reds games when I lived in Kentucky. And
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  Speaker 4: growing up in Nashville, Tennessee, my dad would take us
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  Speaker 4: to Cincinnati frequently. But right up there, that's where Kentucky
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  Speaker 4: 4 is. And the 4th Congressional District, they deserve a
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  Speaker 4: representative who fights for them. Not one who performs for...
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  Speaker 4: national applause. Congressman Thomas Massey has positioned himself as the
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  Speaker 4: principled libertarian, a holdout against big government. In reality, he
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  Speaker 4: has become a professional contrarian whose loudest stands benefits his
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  Speaker 4: national donor base. and personal brand far more than working families, manufacturers,
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  Speaker 4: and river communities he was elected to serve. Voters in
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  Speaker 4: northern Kentucky, Kentucky 4 should ask a simple question. What
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  Speaker 4: has Massey actually delivered? Massey entered Congress via a special
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  Speaker 4: election in 2012, and he's really coasted in re-election with
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  Speaker 4: minimal opposition for over a decade. His early record showed
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  Speaker 4: occasional pragmatism. In 2014, he co-sponsored the Water Resources and
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  Speaker 4: Development Act, a bipartisan measure that authorized the Army Corps
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  Speaker 4: of Engineers to maintain 276 miles of Ohio River. That infrastructure,
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  Speaker 4: it really matters to those people in Kentucky for, and
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  Speaker 4: the reason why is because it's right on the Ohio River,
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  Speaker 4: and that bill supports transportation, industry, and jobs in that community.
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  Speaker 4: It was kind of tangible, district-focused work that the constituents
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  Speaker 4: really voted for in Thomas Massey. But again, that was
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  Speaker 4: way back in 2014. Since then, the highlights have been
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  Speaker 4: very few for Massey when it comes to accomplishing something
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  Speaker 4: in legislation for the people of Kentucky for. He voted
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  Speaker 4: in 2018 for the First Step Act, and that is
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  Speaker 4: a criminal justice reform bill that passed the House last
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  Speaker 4: but he wasn't alone in passing that. It was truly
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  Speaker 4: a bipartisan piece of legislation. 358 for votes, only 36 against.
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  Speaker 4: This was really a consensus measure here that Thomas Massey
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  Speaker 4: voted for in 2018. Thomas Massey's transformation into the lone
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  Speaker 4: wolf obstructionist began really during the COVID-19 pandemic. In March
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  Speaker 4: of 2020, as the nation faced an economic freefall due
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  Speaker 4: to COVID-19, Massey single-handedly forced an in-person recorded vote on
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  Speaker 4: the $ 2 trillion CARES Act. You may remember that. I do.
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  Speaker 4: I was a little bit upset about it. I understand
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  Speaker 4: why Thomas Massey did it. He didn't think that any
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  Speaker 4: vote should ever be taken by proxy or outside of
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  Speaker 4: the chambers of Congress. He made some sense there. But
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  Speaker 4: at the same time, nothing changed in the legislation by
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  Speaker 4: the stunt that he pulled. Nothing changed in that legislation.
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  Speaker 4: And it was at the height of COVID-19's most dangerous
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  Speaker 4: early stages when we still really didn't know a lot
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  Speaker 4: about it. And all he did was obstruct at that
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  Speaker 4: moment to slow down the money getting to the people's
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  Speaker 4: hands in America through unemployment and PPP and other things
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  Speaker 4: in the CARES Act. It slowed down getting that money
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  Speaker 4: to the people. It didn't help the people of Kentucky
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  Speaker 4: for at a time when they needed it. The move
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  Speaker 4: earned him immediate bipartisan condemnation from members of the House
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  Speaker 4: of Representatives. And he was due that condemnation because of
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  Speaker 4: his theatrical purity, not his practical governance and public health guidance.
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  Speaker 4: Nothing substantive changed in that legislation, as I said. What
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  Speaker 4: did change was Thomas Massey's profile. Overnight, the previously obscure,
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  Speaker 4: chubby congressman became a hero to libertarian activists nationwide. His
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  Speaker 4: campaign raised more than $ 200, 000 in days, much of it
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  Speaker 4: from outside Kentucky. The pattern was set. National notoriety funded
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  Speaker 4: by distant donors, local needs were sidelined. And that trend
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  Speaker 4: has only accelerated. As Massey's opposition to President Trump and
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  Speaker 4: the GOP leadership sharpened, so did his fundraising. Thomas Massey
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  Speaker 4: learned something, didn't he? Massey enjoyed the limelight, and he
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  Speaker 4: began to walk away from those who voted for him,
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  Speaker 4: the people of Kentucky 4. In 2025, he posted his
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  Speaker 4: best quarter fundraising for his campaign in 13 years, hauling
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  Speaker 4: in over $ 700, 000. By April 2026, he held $ 1. 7 million
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  Speaker 4: in cash on hand. And during the heated primaries that
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  Speaker 4: I was talking about at the beginning of this hour, well,
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  Speaker 4: he's really done well. He did a money bomb fundraising
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  Speaker 4: event here in May, and he raised $ 1. 2 million in
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  Speaker 4: a single week. Strikingly, 68% of those donations, they came
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  Speaker 4: from first-time contributors. Largely, National libertarians drawn to his image
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  Speaker 4: as the uncompromising outsider, not someone representing Kentucky 4. Local
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  Speaker 4: voters and national donors, they're not the same constituency. One
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  Speaker 4: group lives with consequences of his votes. The other enjoys
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  Speaker 4: the spectacle from afar, and they move on to the
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  Speaker 4: next cause. This funding model reveals the deeper problem here.
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  Speaker 4: Thomas Massey no longer primarily represents the people of northern Kentucky.
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  Speaker 4: He represents a small but vocal network of contrarian libertarians
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  Speaker 4: scattered across the country who reward performative obstruction. While his
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  Speaker 4: district grapples with real issues like manufacturing competitiveness, river infrastructure,
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  Speaker 4: opioid recovery, and trade policy, Massey has built a brand
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  Speaker 4: around voting no and issuing statements. The grand constitutional stands
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  Speaker 4: generate clicks, donations, and super PAC war chests that he
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  Speaker 4: can retain even if he is defeated May 19th. Constituents
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  Speaker 4: get the Instagram libertarian, not the results-oriented legislator from back
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  Speaker 4: in 2014. And you know, the Libertarian Party itself offers
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  Speaker 4: a cautionary tale here. After 50 years of organized effort,
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  Speaker 4: it commands only about 2% national support. Most Americans, we
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  Speaker 4: really harbor libertarian instincts. By that, I mean we're skeptical
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  Speaker 4: of overreach of government. We respect individual rights, but we
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  Speaker 4: also understand that effective governance is requires occasional compromise and
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  Speaker 4: focus on local priorities. Massey's brand of showy isolationism squanders
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  Speaker 4: that potential. It turns principle into parity. Predictive markets currently
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  Speaker 4: give Massey roughly a 70% chance of surviving the May
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  Speaker 4: 19th primary, with the polls showing about a 5% race there. However,
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  Speaker 4: 13% of likely voters are still undecided. So this is
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  Speaker 4: still a race. A close contest would send a powerful
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  Speaker 4: message here. Northern Kentucky deserves a congressman who treats the
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  Speaker 4: district as his primary client. His number one reason for
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  Speaker 4: being in the House of Representatives. Not a stage for
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  Speaker 4: national performance art. Ed Galran, backed by Trump and focused
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  Speaker 4: on delivering results over rhetoric, offers that alternative. Voters should
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  Speaker 4: look past the carefully cultivated image of the lone defender
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  Speaker 4: of the Constitution. Thomas Massey's record shows a man who
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  Speaker 4: learned how to monetize contrarianism while his district waited for consistent,
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  Speaker 4: effective representation. On May 19th, Kentucky's 4th can choose substance
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  Speaker 4: over spectacle. The people of northern Kentucky have earned better
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  Speaker 4: than a congressman whose biggest victories come in fundraising, emails,
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  Speaker 4: and Twitter threads. They deserve a fighter who actually delivers
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  Speaker 4: results for them, not one who forgot them. Vote, and
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  Speaker 4: vote wisely coming up Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: More Truth Be Told with Booker Scott in minutes on
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  Speaker 1: America Out Loud.
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  Speaker 4: Someone asked me the other day, how do you even
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  Speaker 4: get a sense of what's going to happen next? It's hard.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that we can, the way the news
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  Speaker 4: moves so fast. But you know what I told them?
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  Speaker 4: I said, I've been checking out PolyMarket a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: It's extremely insightful. You're basically watching how thousands of people
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  Speaker 4: are betting on outcomes. Political elections, big policy moves, even
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  Speaker 4: events you wouldn't expect. It's kind of like a live
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  Speaker 4: pulse on what the public actually believes. And you can
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  Speaker 4: see trends before they even happen. and before they even
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  Speaker 4: make the mainstream news. For me, it's not about gambling.
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  Speaker 4: It's about understanding the probabilities and where the momentum is shifting.
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  Speaker 4: If you like or love the news like I do,
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  Speaker 4: maybe you're a news junkie, but you want to take
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  Speaker 4: a little deeper look at what people really think, go
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  Speaker 4: to Polymarket. It's a fascinating tool. Polymarket.com. That first segment
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  Speaker 4: here tonight kind of gave me a headache. That political
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  Speaker 4: theater that goes on in congressional hearings. Realize that nothing
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  Speaker 4: that happens there really means anything. The business is done
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  Speaker 4: behind doors that we don't see. We never see that
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  Speaker 4: part of what happens on Capitol Hill. And one person
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  Speaker 4: that wants to go to Capitol Hill, I'm not sure
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  Speaker 4: why he wants to join that. And have a headache
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  Speaker 4: every day, but he does. He's here. We're going to
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  Speaker 4: have a conversation with him. Maybe we can find that out.
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  Speaker 4: His name is Michael Carbonaro. His name is Michael Carbonaro.
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  Speaker 4: And I hope I said that right. I tried. How
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  Speaker 4: did I do, Michael?
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  Speaker 2: It's a bit of a tongue twister, but yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: got it right there.
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  Speaker 4: At the end. Carbonaro is correct. Is that right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Well, let's talk about you. You're a young man,
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  Speaker 4: successful man in business. It seems like your life is
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  Speaker 4: going great from all appearances. And now suddenly you decide
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  Speaker 4: you want to join this mess in our nation's capital.
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  Speaker 4: Why is that? What motivates you to get there?
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  Speaker 2: No, uh, I've been an entrepreneur most of my life
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  Speaker 2: and I love creating businesses. I love solving problems. Um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I've built successful businesses and banking and cryptocurrency, uh,
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  Speaker 2: fertility care. And, um, you know, I'm at a point
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  Speaker 2: in my life where, you know, I see what's everything
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: that's going on. We have a lot of divisiveness in
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: this country. And, uh, frankly, I, a lot of it
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: is because there are people like Debbie Washman Schultz that
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: are created at divisiveness and tear the country apart. Um,
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: you know, she's been a career politician for over 20
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: years and all she does is vote to increase taxes,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: increase the size of government and everyone, our freedoms away. And, um, I've,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I've kidnapped, um, a three-year-old and a four-month-old. And I
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: think everybody, when they become a parent, they start looking
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: at things a little differently. And we all want to
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: have a better world, a better country for our kids
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: to grow up in. So I just felt compelled. This
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: is a time in my life where I'm able to
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: contribute and do my part to help the country, to
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: help the community. And that's what I want to do.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I want to restore the freedoms and make America free
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: for the next generation and all Americans.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: I talk to a lot of politicians, and it seems
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: like they have that idea as they go in. But
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: somewhere along the way, things get messed up for them
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: and their ideals and what they want to accomplish. You
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: mentioned Debbie Wasserman Schultz there. That would be who you
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: would run against should you make it through the primary.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: This is Congressional District 25 down in the Miami, kind
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: of sandwiched between Fort Lauderdale and Miami, isn't it?
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's correct. That's about half of Broward County. And yeah,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: she's been there for over 20 years. I haven't actually
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: met anybody that likes her there, but she's been there
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: for so long.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Why is that? Why does she continue to get elected?
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: Because I don't like her. I don't know. I'm like you.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know anybody that likes Debbie Wasserman Schultz. By
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: the way, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, she was the one that
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: had the IT specialist that We're trying to get out
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: of the country and they brought them back. And by
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: the way, Nancy Pelosi and Wasserman Schultz, they paid them $ 800, 000.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: You can look that up and find out about that story.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Why is it that the people there in the 25th
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: congressional district in Florida continue to vote for her?
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: You know, that's a good question. You know, people, you know, they,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: they like doing what's what they know. And, you know,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: maybe that they just, things are changing and, you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: they see the world changing and, And I think that
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: what I'm bringing to the table here is a little
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: bit different. I'm not somebody that's been in politics. Debbie
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Washington Schultz has never had a job in the private sector.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: She only knows big government. That's a lot of problems. Exactly.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: And people like that, they can only solve problems by
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: creating more government. I want to go in there, fix things,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: solve problems by what we know from the private sector,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: which means efficiency, low cost. and giving things back to
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: the people rather than taking away.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Let's go back into your life. You are originally from
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: New York. Is that correct?
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's right. And your mom was a single mom.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: She raised you in church. And then I guess what, 2011, 12,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: you moved to Miami. You are married to a Cuban woman,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: which in Miami, there is a big presence of Cubans there.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: And By the way, they are huge Americans. They're huge
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: freedom and liberty people. When you meet a Cuban in
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Miami or you meet a Cuban in America, you can
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: know that they love freedom and liberty. That's why they
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: are here. Talk about your journey from New York to Florida. Yeah,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: you're right.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I came to Florida. I was younger. I
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: was still trying to figure out what I was doing
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: with my life, start my businesses and I came down here,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: met my wife, and actually we were pretty much as
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: soon as I think the first week I was down here,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: we started dating.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: How long have you been together?
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: 13 years now.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Okay. Met her on the first day down there, or
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: first week, and you've been together all these years. That's
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: a great story. And now you have two young children,
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: and your motivation for doing this, I would assume, would
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: be for their future, right? You see what is going
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: on in this country. You mentioned how divided we are
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: as a country. And Debbie Wasserman Schultz is one of
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: those that with her rhetoric, she continues to flame those
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: fires to the point that someone like Charlie Kirk takes
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: a bullet last week. How do you solve those problems?
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: How can we work across the aisle again? Because it
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: has been a long time, probably 30 years.
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I've actually thought a lot about this, and without getting,
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: this can be a very long conversation, but I like
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: to think about Marks and McLuhan, if you know who
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: he is.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: He was known as the godfather of communications of the
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: 20th century, and he said that when people are reading media,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: whether it's print, radio, or TV, it's a constant self-identification
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: feedback loop. Now, we take that forward to social media,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: which is just 24 seven propaganda. And you get people
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: who are probably good natured people who want to do
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: good for the country, want to do good for the family,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: but they're fed this propaganda to the point where they,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: you know, left is right, up is down, good is bad,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: bad is good. And we have to really just go
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: back to fundamentals of what freedom and our freedom of
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: speech and expression and have critical thinking and return to
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: our values. Because if we have strong values, It doesn't
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: matter what the propaganda is if our moral compass is
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: the right direction. How do we do that?
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: How does that accomplish?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I think we need to take a hard position against
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: the people that are actually violent. There are actual bad people, leftists, Marxists,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: that are wreaking this havoc. But there's good people in
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: the middle that are lost in the direction to go.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: And we have to hold the people accountable. First, we
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: need to make sure our country is safer. We need
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: to fix the problems. I'll give you an example. Debbie
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Wasserman Schultz, she was a big proponent with open borders,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: letting criminals, cartels, gangs in the country. And she led
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: the color revolution of the defund the police movement. And
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: what that's doing is bringing all this violence. You see
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: all the violence with Charlie Kirk, shootings all the time.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: And this wasn't the America 20, 30, 40 years ago
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: where people felt safe. And I think we need to
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: restore order because if people can get along, restore order,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: hold the criminals accountable, we can start having conversation and
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: really communicate with each other. If we can't communicate with
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: each other, where do we go?
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Well, there's a couple of thoughts I have. Number one,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: you were talking about, in essence, the echo chamber that
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: we live in on social media. We are fed the
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: information that we want to believe, and it becomes our truth.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: There is only the truth. There's no their truth, my truth,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: your truth. There is the truth. The problem is with
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: algorithms and artificial intelligence and social media, our news feeds
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: are feeding us what we want to believe. And that
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: goes to social media and also in news feeds. So
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: my question is, have you given any thought to maybe
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: artificial intelligence and safeguards that need to come along with
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: it to help with these echo chambers that we have?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Sure. No, we do need artificial intelligence. We need safe AI.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I think that's going to leapfrog us to have a
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: great economy, to have quality of life, and it's going
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: to make America a real competitor in the global markets.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: So heading that direction is the right direction, but we
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: do need safe AI. We need to understand what the
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: AI is. It's a tool, but most people don't really
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: understand that it's just a tool. It's not the answer
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: to everything, and you have to be aware of what
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: that algorithm is. And I think that's something that needs
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: to be explained to new customers. Yeah.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: And I'm concerned about super. intelligence and artificial general intelligence,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: which the experts say is coming in the next five years.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: I do agree with you that it is the new
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Cold War that we have, and it is a race,
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: no doubt about it, that we have to get in.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: We can't throw away the safeguards, the human agency part
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: of it, that is being interrupted. But let's go back
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: to Charlie Kirk real quick and get your thoughts on
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk on the leftist that was indoctrinated to take
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: a bullet and kill him. Do you believe we are
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: seeing the full story? Is Kash Patel and the government
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: being transparent right now as he says he is?
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: You know, I think it's an active investigation. I think
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of things will come out over the next
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: few days. And these things never happen as instantly as
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the Internet wants it to happen. And I know any
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: investigator doesn't want to jump to conclusions before they finish investigations.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: The Trump administration has been the most transparent government probably
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: in our lifetime. And I trust that they'll get to
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: it and we'll find out everything that happened here.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: And the problem is, will the people believe it? Because...
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: of the things that are going on already with conspiracy
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: theories and this and that. And when that happens, when
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: the real truth comes out, a lot of people don't
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: believe it. And we've seen that so many times over
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: the last five to 10 years, it has become part
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: of our society and our culture. Unfortunately, let's talk about
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: things financially for you. Where do you come down financially
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: in your politics?
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I think there's a lot we can do there.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, for me, I believe in the way our
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: country was established, that we have the federal government to
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: protect our rights, to protect our borders, to protect our currency.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: And I believe that we should not have a bloated
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: bureaucracy that's overtaxing us. I think we need to lower
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: the tax burden on all Americans. You know, some people
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: say tax these people more, tax these people less. Why
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: tax everybody so much? Let people decide how they want
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: to spend their money. And I think that The economy
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: is the foundation for everything. If people are financially secure,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: then they can have a better quality of life. They
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: can make better decisions and be aware of all the
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: other issues that they have to attend to. But we
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: have problems with basically the subsidies that we had in
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: the education system. We have now the consequences with our
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: college graduates can't even start their career without student loan
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: debt that they may never even be able to pay off.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: We have health insurance costs that are just outlandish and
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: They're unaffordable. Credit card debt. I mean, we have to
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: fix a systemic problem. It's not that we have to
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: just do this or do that. We have to find
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: out why are people, you know, their buying power, their
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: curtains power has vanished for life and they're being replaced
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: by debt. And we're going to a whole generation that
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: does not have the opportunity for the American dream because
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: all these things have been taken away from their opportunity.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: You mentioned kids getting out of college with a bunch
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: of debt. Housing is another problem. They can't afford houses
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: between interest rates, which, by the way, I'd like to
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: throw this out. Interest rates historically are pretty good right now.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: I can remember 15 years ago that we finally got
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: down to 6%. Everybody was refinancing because that was an
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: incredibly low rate. Today, we're at 6.5%, 6.75% on a
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: 30-year fixed mortgage, and people are complaining about it, wanting
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: it to go back to 3%, which was once-in-a-lifetime thing
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: back five or six years ago. So sometimes I think
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: we forget about that. That's beside the point. We have
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: kids coming out of college. They have a tough time
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: finding a job. They are saddled with a lot of
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: student loan debt. And they can't even buy a house.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Can they even rent an apartment? Those opportunities for that
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: generation right now is not available. And I think we
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: see a lot of frustration from that age group right now.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: And we see that maybe in some of this violence
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: that we're seeing. How do we fix that?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Well, like I said, this is a systemic issue about
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of different variables. It's not just one thing.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: But I can tell you right now, with the technology
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: that America has, there's never been a time to create
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: more wealth than ever in human history. But we have
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: a problem when you have so many illegals coming here,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: replacing jobs, which also increases the housing cost. We need
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: legal immigration and people vetted before they come here. And
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: we need to have a control on that. When the
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: illegals are getting more favoritism than the native people, the Americans,
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: it's not right. We need to put the Americans first.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: And the other thing, going back to the AI, this
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: is really important. The job market's going to change rapidly
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: over the next five years. We need to teach real skills,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: vocational skills to address this. AI is going to really
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: help quality of life, but we need to understand what's
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: coming so we can have the training for that and
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: create the job market for that.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we could lose 10 to 20 percent jobs in
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: some places. And these aren't just, you know, these are
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: white collar jobs that people don't understand that we're going
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: to lose. It's a part of artificial intelligence. You said it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: I think you said it wisely that it's coming and
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: it's going to be a great thing in most cases.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: But there are some some areas we have to consider
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: and have some concern about as well. I want to
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: get back to, again, the housing thing. How do you
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: think we solve this? Other than lower interest rates, that
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: would help, but prices are extremely high. Are there any programs,
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: are there any ways that we could help a 23-, 24-,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: 25-year-old that is just out of college, got his first job,
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: he's making $ 50, 000 or $ 60, 000 a year? That person has
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: to live with their parents. How do we fix that?
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Well, I think there could be some government programs
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: that support first-time homebuyers. We've had those programs in the past.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I think we can look at that and make it
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: better for young professionals or people get out of college,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: people starting families. It's critically important. And that's another problem.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: People aren't having families like they used to. And that's
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: part of the issue. They can't be independent. They need
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: to go have a home. They can't be living at
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: their parents' house in order to get married and have kids.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: They need that house. And we have to, if we
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: deal with the student loan debt the home insurance costs,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: which are skyrocketing, especially here in Florida. We have to
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: look at all these issues because then the housing becomes
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: more affordable if people have more cash to spend they
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: want on that. And the other thing is really just
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: giving people lower taxes. They have the ability to choose
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: the home they want. One thing that Governor DeSantis is
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: really pushing, which I think is a great idea here
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: in Florida, they're actually trying to get rid of property
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: taxes for homestead homeowners.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Well, one reason why they have to do that in
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: the state of Florida is because the insurance problem. So
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: many insurance companies have moved out of the state. The
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: state had some loopholes in their laws, and a result
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: of that is that 79% of the country's lawsuits against
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: property insurance has come in the state of Florida, while
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: the state of Florida only has 9% of the property
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: insurance claims. So I think that maybe getting rid of
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: the property tax in the state of Florida is would
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: compensate for the fact that everybody is paying three times,
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: four times as much as the national average on insurance.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: How do you reach across the aisle? You mentioned being divided.
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: You're going to need help from Democrats from time to time.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: I think in listening to you, that's the vision that
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: you have. You want to take it back to a
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: time when we could be respectful of each other's opinions
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: and have debate and come to some sort of solution
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: for people. How do you do that in this political environment?
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. At the end of the day, we're all Americans.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: We all want best for our families. We all want
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: to protect our kids. We need to really root out
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: the people who are really promoting bad ideas that are ideas.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: And we do this peacefully, of course, but have bad ideas.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: And people like Debbie Washington Schultz, who represents everything the
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: opposite of what I'm saying. She wants Medicare for all,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: which will drain the economy and make Medicare terrible for everyone.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: She wants open borders. She wants to defund the police.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Everything that she voted for or that she promotes is
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: what's deteriorating in America. That's what's ripping the fabric of
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: our civilization, our society apart and creates divisiveness because everything
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: that America stood for, for liberty, for freedom, for self-determination,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: for promoting business and innovation, she's creating a bloated bureaucracy
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: that damages all those things and takes away our freedoms.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Great points. More of this conversation is coming up in
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: just a minute. Don't go anywhere.
• 38:34
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• 38:36
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• 38:39
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• 38:41
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• 38:44
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to the truth be told on america out
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  Speaker 4: loud talk radio i'm booker scott We are joined by
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: someone that wants to join the rat race in Washington, D.C. tonight,
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Michael Carbonara. He is running in the 25th Congressional District
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: in Florida. Michael, I haven't asked you yet how busy
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: and how crowded is the Republican field in your primary?
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Well, actually, right now, I was the sole candidate until,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: I guess, a couple weeks ago. Another candidate had jumped
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: in the race.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: And when you are trying to get money, it takes
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: a lot of money to win a race. How are
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: you there? Are you going to be able to fight
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Debbie Wasserman Schultz?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, from resources, I've been running businesses, so
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I understand how to raise money, how to run an organization,
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: how to manage resources. Actually, up until this point, when
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I first filed back in April this year, I loaned
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: myself the initial campaign funding and I put it all
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: into Bitcoin. And I did that to demonstrate what our
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: future economy is looking like and what cryptocurrency means to
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: the world. Because I know in a couple more months,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: that'll actually spearhead me much further with resources from the
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Bitcoin value increase. So I did that kind of just
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: to show the American people that this could be done
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: with innovation and being smart about how you're raising funds.
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about crypto. It's something that you have done
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: in your past in business. I think a lot of us,
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: myself included, we don't really understand crypto. I can tell
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: you that years ago, probably 15 years ago, some guy says,
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: you want to buy some Bitcoin? And I was like, well,
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: what is it? He said, you can play a computer
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: game with it. I don't play computer games. And he says, well,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: you can buy it. It's 50 cents. I don't need it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: I don't play computer games. I think it's a stupid idea,
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: even at 50 cents. So don't ever listen to me
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: for financial advice is the story of that, Michael. But
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: a little bit about crypto. Do you think the government
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: needs to get into the crypto business? I know a
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: lot of people are fearful that there will be a
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: central bank digital currency. Where do you come in on that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a really good point. And that's something
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: the Trump administration already came out and said, no central
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: bank digital currency. And I wholeheartedly agree with that. We
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: don't want the government overreaching and having too much control
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: of our finances. But Bitcoin, and it's really not just
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: about Bitcoin as an asset, but it's about blockchain technology
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: because it makes... much more transparency. It reduces risks of fraud.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: It has more protections. And really what it represents is
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: financial freedom where people can actually control and own their
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: own assets. It's, uh, you know, they've referred to as
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: decentralized finance because you actually control your own money. It's,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: it's financial freedom. It's, it's really, you know, I think
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: it's emblematic of, of America of having liberties to control
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: your own destiny.
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  Speaker 4: Michael, what do we do about what we are seeing
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: with Charlie Kirk? We see the left and the trans
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: movement that I guess they are after all of us.
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  Speaker 4: To me, I saw Charlie Kirk's death and assassination as
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: symbolism of coming after Christians, coming after people that believe
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  Speaker 4: in God. They're coming after us. They are coming after us,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: and that's what Charlie Kirk's assassination was. And until we
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: get bold and loud and get in people's faces that
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: are doing this, we're going to have a problem. How
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: do we fix this problem? Because to me, it's an ideology.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: We have half this country with an ideology that is
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: not based on the Judeo-Christian principles that this country was
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: founded on. How do we get it back there? Do
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: you have any ideas? What are your thoughts there?
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  Speaker 2: I do. And I think Charlie Kirk was doing exactly that.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: And Unfortunately, he lost his life speaking his mind and
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: promoting Christianity and freedom of speech and American values and freedom.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I think that we have a serious mental illness problem
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: in this country. As soon as we saw the shootings
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: last week, Debbie Washington Schultz, her reaction was, let's take
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: away more freedoms. Let's take your guns away. But the
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: real issue is not guns. It's the mental illness. And
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: we need to, well, first, help people that are sick
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: and need that help. But when there are criminals, we
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: also need to hold them accountable. We have cashless bail.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: We have judges and district attorneys letting murderers and rapists
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: get out of jail the next day. And they're just
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: creating and amplifying this problem. And by doing that, they're saying,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: it's okay for you to be a criminal. It's okay
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: for you to hurt others. And it starts right there
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: by holding those who are criminals accountable, holding judges and
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: district attorneys accountable, Make sure we get the right people
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: into those positions. And it all starts with your own family.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Teach these values and lessons to your children. Make sure
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: they're safe. Make sure they're educated and not indoctrinated. Because
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: the family unit is the foundation for our whole country.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: And we need to start there.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you sound a lot like me in believing
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: that this country is a republic. We should have very
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: limited government from the federal side. that our government should
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: be closest to our community where we live, and that
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: would be in the county, the city, the state that
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: we live in, all of those things. When you talk
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: about cashless bail and the other things that you talked about,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: safety and security, how do you do that if you
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: win and you beat Debbie Wasserman Schultz? What type of
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: legislation do you do from a federal standpoint for states
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: and our local government without creating problems the larger federal
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: government that you and I both are against.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's a really good point because from a
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: federal position, you can't control the local government. But what
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: you can do is lead with good ideas and talk
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: to people within your community and support local elections and
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: show that you support those ideas from the federal level.
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  Speaker 2: Because I agree, the federal government should not be involved
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  Speaker 2: in everybody's life. It should be limited. And the whole
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: purpose where the founding fathers, why they created this model,
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: where the states and the local governments, they can have
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: more authority, is actually to maximize freedom by creating competition.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Because if your town or your state was too taxing
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: or didn't have enough freedom, such as California, you could
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: freely move to places like Florida. And that's the idea.
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  Speaker 2: By creating competition, you have more freedom. And I support that.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: And we saw a lot of that over the last
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: several years. A lot of people from New York and
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: New Jersey are moving down to Florida. People are moving
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: out of California. They're moving into Idaho and Texas, Tennessee,
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: other places like that. So your point is taken on that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when you look at Florida, I don't know
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: if you know this, but Florida leads the nation every
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: year in the most people leaving a state. Did you
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: know that?
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  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Brought that up to someone recently. They didn't believe me,
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: but about a half a million people are leaving the
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: state of Florida. But yet Florida does lead in the
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: number of people that have come to the state every
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: year by 150, 170,000 people. That's how many people are
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: moving into the state of Florida every year. You would
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: have your hands full should you win and beat Debbie
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: Wasserman Schultz. What would you like to do mostly for
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: your constituents in the area there of Miami, right between
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Fort Lauderdale and Miami? By the way, that district used
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: to stretch all the way across to Collier County to Naples, Florida.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Did you know that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. They did the redistricting just a few years ago.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. They've done a few redistricting in that district before.
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  Speaker 4: What would you like to see happen for your constituents?
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: What could you do for them? right off the bat,
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: should you win?
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, we just talked about federal versus local,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: but even though federal, what the decisions that are made
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: in the federal level in D.C. do have impacts here locally.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: You know, one thing I learned recently from the open
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: border situation in Debbie Watson's shelter, the Biden administration, opening
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: the borders to criminals and gang members right here in
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Broward County. Right now we have 47 confirmed gangs and
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: there's violence happening every single day here. And that's a
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: direct result of policy. That wasn't an accident. That was
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: policy at the federal level. So I would do everything
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: I can to bring, support our law enforcement, to hold
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: criminals accountable, to make our community safe. People shouldn't have
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: to worry about dropping their kids off at school and
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: coming home safely in the afternoon. We need to address
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: our increasing cost of living. Florida is experiencing the same
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: increase in cost as everybody else. I mean, we do
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: have sunshine. People do like to come here. We do
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: have a nice life here. But things still cost money,
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  Speaker 2: just like the rest of the country. And we need
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: to bring some economic prosperity to the people of this district.
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  Speaker 4: Great ideas. I hope you win. Obviously, I'm not a
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Debbie Wasserman Schultz fan at all. And let me let
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: me ask you this. When you look at the Charlie
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: Kirk death, I want to go back there. It's big
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: in the news right now. And we see Pam Bondi.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: She is talking about going after and targeting those for
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: hate speech. You know, the First Amendment is something that
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: I think we all should take very seriously. I believe
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: hate speech is protected in the First Amendment. I think
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: you can cross the line if you threaten violence. But
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: if it's only hate speech, where do you come down
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: on that? When you're looking at Pam Bondi and the
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: things that she's saying, which bother me, honestly, they do
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: bother me, the things that she has said about that.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: What do you say about that First Amendment?
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: No, I've said this once before, and I wish I
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: could take credit for it, but I saw a tweet
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: from Kevin Sorbo years ago when he just put it
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: very succinctly, the only speech worth protecting is a speech
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: you disagree with. And we have to protect that. We
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: need open debate. Now, what we see is going on
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: in this country is a phenomenon, but this is not
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: hate speech with people going after. These teachers, these people
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: in the military, people that are being basically found out
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: for promoting, I don't want to say hateful, but just disgusting,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: godless propaganda, they're also violating their code of conduct for
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: their professions. And this is not just about is speech
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: hateful or not. This is common sense morality. And a
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: community has a right to know, or if somebody's teaching
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: my kid and they're spilling out this hateful, godless rhetoric,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I don't want that person teaching my kid. And so
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: that community has every right to know what's going on
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: and make those decisions.
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: Michael, I have been a big proponent of school choice
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: and the words you're talking there kind of bring me
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: into school choice. Where do you stand on school choice?
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: Is that a good idea? I know in the state
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: of Florida that they have it there. There are several
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: states now that do have it. Is that something that
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: the federal government should do in the Department of Education?
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's been something that's worked out
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: really well in Florida. Everybody here, I could say, Democrat
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: or Republican, really likes to have the school choice. It's
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: great to be able to say, this school doesn't work
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: for my child. I want to bring my kid to
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: this school because I like it better, for whatever reason
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: they choose. And I think that from a federal level,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: having a universal school choice, I mean, even though it's
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: a federal law, that gives the power back to the communities,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: back to the states, back to the parents, which really
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: what the issue is. And you can choose who wants
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: to educate your children, If you're worried about indoctrination, take
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: your kid out of that school. Put them somewhere else.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: And I think that's the best way to go forward.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: It creates competition for public education where they may have
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: to get better. And I've always thought that. And Sunday,
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: as I was sitting and listening to the sermon that
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: happened to be mostly about Charlie Kirk, thankfully, we have
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: a pastor that is not afraid to stand up and
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: talk about things because that really isn't politics, what happened
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: with Charlie Kirk. You know, he was a symbol of Christians.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: And so it was much more than politics. And I
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: think we have to see it that way. But my
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: thought was, have we made a mistake in taking our
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: children out of public schools, putting them in homeschooling and
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: private schools? And my daughter goes to private school, private
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: Christian school. Have we made a mistake by not encouraging
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: young conservatives to become teachers and Because as we have
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: seen over the last week with everything that has happened
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: online with social media, with Charlie Kirk, there are a
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: lot of vile teachers. Our education system from kindergarten all
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: the way through higher education is full of leftists that
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: are indoctrinating our children from a very young age. And
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: I'm not so sure that we have made a mistake here.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: Maybe we need to encourage more conservatives, a lot of
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: conservatives here. to get in there to protect our children
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: in public education, too. And that's just a thought I
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: throw at you, but I don't know if you have
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: any thoughts. I'll allow you to come back, Abby.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a really good example of what's going right
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: here in Broward County in the state of Florida. We
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: had hundreds of thousands of students been pulled out and
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: now homeschooled over the last five years. And, you know,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Broward County specifically has been very, very liberal about and
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: they've lost some of the most students. And we're actually
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: right now being forced to close down schools because there's
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: no attendance there anymore.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done a story on that in Howard County before.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: I know exactly what you're talking about. These are schools
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: that have been there for 50 and 60 years, and
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: people in the community are upset because the schools are closing. Well,
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: they're closing because they suck, and they're not doing a
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: good job for the kids. I'm sorry I interrupted you.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: Please go ahead.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: No, no, it's fine. But what I was going to
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: add to that, is that every member but one of
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: the Broward County School Board is Democrat, very, very liberal.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: We only have one conservative on the school board. And
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: you're right. What's going on is we all Americans, we just.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: Have, we can do better.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: We need to engage in our kids' life. Parents are unfortunately,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: and it all goes back to the economy. They're working two,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: three jobs sometimes. They don't have time. They put their
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: kids in daycare way too early. And people are just
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: trying to get by and they don't want to do
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: those things. But because of the economy, they don't have
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: a choice. So when we start with the economy, we
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: start with safety. Everything else can fall in line, but
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: we have to put the pieces together, build a foundation
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: so people are able to make the right choices to
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: take care of their families and be prosperous here.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: I am moving to Broward County tomorrow. I will be
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: able to vote for you in the primaries. Why do
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: I vote for you? Tell me why I should vote
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: for Michael Carbonara.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Like I said, Debbie Washington Schultz, she's been a career politician.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Her answer to everything is to increase taxes, bigger government,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: less freedoms for all of us. I'm running to restore
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: the freedoms in Florida and America and defeat Debbie Washington
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Schultz and the democratic policies that have eroded the freedoms
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: in America. And I want everybody to be safe, prosperous,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to use everything I've learned in building
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: businesses and creativity and innovation to bring that to Washington
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: to solve the problems rather than make them bigger.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: Michael, thank you so much for coming on the program.
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: That was a fast 40 minutes there, wasn't it? It was.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: It goes by pretty fast. But thank you so much.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: I wish you so much good luck. If there's anything
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: we can do to help you, please reach out. I'm
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: here all the time. So please do that. Thank you
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: so much for coming on the program tonight.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Thanks for having me.
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