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- 0:01Speaker 1: It is Thursday, August sixth This is Jackuars Happy Hour.
- 0:10Speaker 1: And now a guy who wants you to know it's
- 0:14Speaker 1: not you, it's him.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Jane, he Cha know it. Welcome in. It is Jaguars
- 0:23Speaker 2: Happy Hour. We've got a busy two hours ahead coming up.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Camp continues closing in on the trip to New Orleans
- 0:31Speaker 2: next week. Well, most of us are pride to the Jaguars.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Running Back Fred Taylor will join us at four thirty today.
- 0:38Speaker 2: John Osier coming up at four point fifteen, Fred Taylor
- 0:41Speaker 2: at four thirty. As we said, Kai Stevens jumps in
- 0:43Speaker 2: with us at four forty five. Jags HQ at five
- 0:47Speaker 2: o'clock on the Jaguars Radio Network featuring Pete Prisco and
- 0:52Speaker 2: Tony Boselli reunited again to open the show. One hour
- 0:57Speaker 2: from right now, JP, Shadwick, Jeff Logman and coach Mark Dufter.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Jack, Good, afternoon.
- 1:03Speaker 3: What's all the We've got a festive atmosphere, we got photographers.
- 1:07Speaker 4: And it couldn't be any better. Couldn't be any better.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Graduation, big news, congratulations. JP is going to be heading
- 1:15Speaker 3: off to Arizona and to be calling games for the
- 1:18Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals Yeah, well deserved, thanks Bo, Well deserves.
- 1:21Speaker 4: A good thing for the good guy I've been on.
- 1:25Speaker 5: You think he's been off the ground. Heck, I've been
- 1:27Speaker 5: off the ground in terms of how good this is.
- 1:29Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember back. So I think we've been
- 1:33Speaker 3: doing this ballpark fourteen years.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Yeah, we're trying to talk through that earlier. I think
- 1:37Speaker 2: twenty fourteen ish was probably around that time frame we
- 1:41Speaker 2: started doing this.
- 1:42Speaker 3: Okay, And then you were originally hired by Dan Edward.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Then back in twenty twelve, twenty twelve, I was on
- 1:49Speaker 2: the PR staff, Yeah, which is our.
- 1:51Speaker 3: Job, which is wasn't the original It was all part
- 1:57Speaker 3: of the plan.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Well, I don't I don't know that I was planning
- 2:02Speaker 2: to be a PR guy, like I was changing careers.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Dan Edwards saw, well what Dan he's that's why he's
- 2:09Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame, Like Dan is like one
- 2:12Speaker 2: of those guys. But no, I I got out of
- 2:17Speaker 2: baseball just to take an NFL PR. Yeah that was
- 2:20Speaker 2: from my view, Okay, let me learn how to do PR.
- 2:23Speaker 2: I don't know. And then that year I started doing
- 2:26Speaker 2: sideline reporting with you guys so we could travel. And
- 2:29Speaker 2: then the next year it turned into pregame, post game,
- 2:33Speaker 2: and we'll try this digital media thing out, and you know,
- 2:36Speaker 2: sher and Patrick figure it out. And here we are
- 2:39Speaker 2: in this brand new studio now.
- 2:41Speaker 3: So a lot of people are kind of asking me,
- 2:44Speaker 3: when's the last day?
- 2:45Speaker 2: When do you leave?
- 2:47Speaker 3: When are you going to be calling games for the
- 2:48Speaker 3: Arizona car By the way, this.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Is not a show about me. We're going to talk football.
- 2:56Speaker 2: What's the question?
- 2:57Speaker 3: So so well, because I've been asked this question a
- 3:01Speaker 3: lot people are saying, Hey, when is JP's last day.
- 3:05Speaker 3: When are you leaving to go to take the job
- 3:08Speaker 3: of the Arizona Cardinals. When will you actually leave? When
- 3:11Speaker 3: will you actually call a game for the car? I'm
- 3:13Speaker 3: because they're on tonight. Are you calling their game tonight? No,
- 3:16Speaker 3: I'm a private jet to Canton after the show out.
- 3:18Speaker 3: I think it is possible. No, not tonight. I'll be
- 3:22Speaker 3: at home watching and following along with the chart and
- 3:25Speaker 3: everything to learn the team really fast. And then my
- 3:28Speaker 3: last day of work here is tomorrow. I'll be at practice,
- 3:31Speaker 3: hosting practice like normal with fans in the stands tomorrow
- 3:34Speaker 3: in the mock game.
- 3:35Speaker 2: That'll be fun to see. And then I turn on
- 3:37Speaker 2: my computer tomorrow afternoon, and the badge and everything, they
- 3:40Speaker 2: turn off the code and I'll you're out. I'm out
- 3:43Speaker 2: on Monday for three weeks to finish the preseason there
- 3:47Speaker 2: and be around the team and house hunt and do
- 3:50Speaker 2: those things and get the lay of the land a
- 3:52Speaker 2: little bit. And then I'll come back, you know, August
- 3:56Speaker 2: thirtieth to finish packing up the house and move it,
- 3:58Speaker 2: and then I'll be on the ground there right before
- 4:01Speaker 2: Labor Day weekend.
- 4:01Speaker 3: Pretty amazing.
- 4:02Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll call a game next week for them.
- 4:05Speaker 2: A week from tonight in Las Vegas Cardinals Raiders.
- 4:08Speaker 5: Cardinals have no clue how great they've got it arriving there,
- 4:12Speaker 5: that's for sure.
- 4:13Speaker 4: They got an MVP coming a boy.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm fired up. So I just you know,
- 4:17Speaker 2: obviously we'll talk a little bit with a bunch of
- 4:20Speaker 2: people who've been influential throughout my time here tonight. But
- 4:24Speaker 2: it's not about me tonight. It's certainly about this Jaguars
- 4:28Speaker 2: team that is gearing up for New Orleans next week.
- 4:31Speaker 2: The mock game is tomorrow, and you know what, I
- 4:35Speaker 2: was thinking back to last year's mock game, right, I
- 4:38Speaker 2: mean it, actually they brought in bleachers. They brought in
- 4:42Speaker 2: benches and made it seem like an actual game, and
- 4:45Speaker 2: ran scrimmage basically for a little while out here. I
- 4:48Speaker 2: don't remember it being the cleanest practice last year, but
- 4:52Speaker 2: that was a year ago. It changes this year.
- 4:54Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look last year, when you're talking about
- 4:57Speaker 3: a mock game with a completely new staff and still
- 5:00Speaker 3: trying to find their way. Where they who's.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Talking to, who win on the headset, who's going to
- 5:04Speaker 2: be where game day?
- 5:05Speaker 3: You know who's going to be upstairs, who's going to
- 5:07Speaker 3: be on the sideline, who's going to be where on
- 5:09Speaker 3: the sideline. And now I think that it's a little
- 5:12Speaker 3: bit there's some familiarity there from last year, and so
- 5:15Speaker 3: I think it's more just kind of fine tuning. But
- 5:18Speaker 3: when you have a new roster every year, you still
- 5:21Speaker 3: have to kind of assimilate everybody within that program. How
- 5:24Speaker 3: do we stretch, how do we line up on the
- 5:26Speaker 3: field in pre game, how do we do all of
- 5:28Speaker 3: those things and stuff? As a coach, I mean, the
- 5:31Speaker 3: last thing in the world that you want to do
- 5:33Speaker 3: is go out there for a preseason game and look
- 5:35Speaker 3: like you don't have any organization whatsoever.
- 5:37Speaker 5: No question, And let me just say They've got great
- 5:40Speaker 5: organization here and what Jeff does talk about in terms
- 5:44Speaker 5: of going through the game day mechanics, whether it's a
- 5:47Speaker 5: press box, whether it's a sideline, whether it's a personnel groupings, substitutions,
- 5:52Speaker 5: all those type of things that have got to go sideline,
- 5:54Speaker 5: coming over, talking to the offense, talking to defense. Specialty
- 5:57Speaker 5: this group has done an outstanding job of and so
- 6:00Speaker 5: impressed with the practice is the situational things they've already
- 6:04Speaker 5: gotten into. I mean they got in two minutes in
- 6:06Speaker 5: the third practice. They're they're doing backed up, meaning that
- 6:09Speaker 5: offense is backed up and got to come off the
- 6:11Speaker 5: goal line. Defense has got to hold them there. They've
- 6:13Speaker 5: done red zone numerous times, third down, all this kind
- 6:17Speaker 5: of stuff, run play pass. I'm very impressed that they
- 6:20Speaker 5: don't just sit around. There's a true, well thought out, appical,
- 6:25Speaker 5: applicable strategy. I'm sorry, I'm getting I'm so excited about
- 6:30Speaker 5: you I can't even talk. But at any rate, no,
- 6:32Speaker 5: this is well thought out. It's great ball. I'm highly
- 6:35Speaker 5: impressed with the way they prepare this team.
- 6:37Speaker 2: Applicable is that what it's applicable?
- 6:39Speaker 4: I think either way I couldn't get it out.
- 6:41Speaker 2: I was.
- 6:42Speaker 4: I was trying to say Arizona, but I couldn't.
- 6:45Speaker 2: Yeah, so look forward to seeing that Tomorrow'll be fans
- 6:47Speaker 2: in the stand. I think there's a bunch of high
- 6:49Speaker 2: school players coming out as well that will kind of
- 6:51Speaker 2: amp the energy up a little bit, which is always
- 6:53Speaker 2: fun to see.
- 6:53Speaker 3: Well, and look, it's a padded practice. Yeah, I mean,
- 6:57Speaker 3: you know, I think it's not going to be game
- 6:59Speaker 3: tempo any.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Stretch, not tackling to the ground, but I.
- 7:02Speaker 3: Mean it's going to be an intense practice. This is
- 7:04Speaker 3: the big practice of the week for this football team
- 7:07Speaker 3: when it comes to pads, because you know, the amount
- 7:10Speaker 3: of padded practices that you're allowed to have from a
- 7:12Speaker 3: collective bargaining standpoint is limited. So when you have them,
- 7:16Speaker 3: you got to take advantage of it. And I'm sure
- 7:18Speaker 3: Liam Cohen and the coaching staff are going to take
- 7:20Speaker 3: advantage of that. But you know, to go back again
- 7:22Speaker 3: to this game mechanics thing.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Look, there you have and.
- 7:27Speaker 3: I don't know what the exact number is, but if
- 7:28Speaker 3: I had to ballpark it, I mean, of all the
- 7:30Speaker 3: guys out, you probably got forty some odd new faces.
- 7:33Speaker 3: Oh yeah, ballparking, then you also have new faces on
- 7:36Speaker 3: your coaching staff, and so how you kind of come
- 7:40Speaker 3: out of the locker room at what time? Okay, once
- 7:42Speaker 3: you come out on the field, where do you go?
- 7:45Speaker 3: You know, where do you line up? Where do you stretch?
- 7:47Speaker 3: I mean, all of those things have to be figured
- 7:49Speaker 3: out because coaches have to have everything just nice and neat.
- 7:55Speaker 2: You know, nothing can be discombobulated.
- 7:57Speaker 4: Okay, we don't need distractions now. I want to be hot, brother,
- 8:00Speaker 4: I'm telling you.
- 8:01Speaker 5: But again, as you said, the dry run, if you
- 8:04Speaker 5: will their dress rehearsal more than that, actually that they're
- 8:06Speaker 5: going to do tomorrow again, it's going to benefits big
- 8:10Speaker 5: time for him moving forward.
- 8:11Speaker 3: And also, like from a player's standpoint, you when you
- 8:14Speaker 3: come out of the tunnel, so to speak, and if
- 8:17Speaker 3: you don't know where to go, it really kind of
- 8:21Speaker 3: just jacks you up, you know, it kind of gets
- 8:24Speaker 3: you a little out of whack. Whereas when you know
- 8:27Speaker 3: where you go, there's a comfort in that. And for real,
- 8:30Speaker 3: I mean, as a player, you have comfort and familiarity,
- 8:35Speaker 3: and as a player on game day, you want everything
- 8:38Speaker 3: to go as planned smooth as can be, nothing unexpected.
- 8:44Speaker 3: And so this is also part of the reason why
- 8:46Speaker 3: you have a mock game is so that the players
- 8:49Speaker 3: can understand it, so that they can find their groove
- 8:52Speaker 3: on game day.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Love that it's time for the Quarterback Preview, presented by
- 8:55Speaker 2: Sea Breeze Propane, Slow Mascot, Fast Delivery. Let's get into
- 9:00Speaker 2: the practice of Trevor Lawrence the last few days or so.
- 9:05Speaker 2: What stood out the most stuff about him and the
- 9:08Speaker 2: way this offense is moving the ball.
- 9:09Speaker 5: I just seek comfort. I see him confident. I see
- 9:12Speaker 5: comfort a level better than I've ever seen, and he
- 9:15Speaker 5: showed it all through the spring, but he's showing it here.
- 9:18Speaker 5: I see aggressive play, and you don't make aggressive plays
- 9:21Speaker 5: without being comfortable. I see him using his legs when
- 9:25Speaker 5: he needs to, extending plays and which has been great
- 9:28Speaker 5: for the defense to practice again, especially in the red
- 9:31Speaker 5: zone where they've got a plaster and stay tight and
- 9:33Speaker 5: stickying coverage. So I love what I see at him
- 9:36Speaker 5: right now. He's distributing the ball well. I mean today,
- 9:39Speaker 5: jeez a Peter, I think it was five passes over
- 9:41Speaker 5: twenty yards. That's called explosive. So you know he's hitting
- 9:46Speaker 5: a good groove. Consistency. I think it's going to continue
- 9:50Speaker 5: to be part of what he demonstrates he did it
- 9:52Speaker 5: in last half the season and he's back on that track.
- 9:56Speaker 3: It was good to see the day that he had
- 9:57Speaker 3: today because I think a couple of days ago it
- 9:59Speaker 3: wasn't as bad, you know, and trading camps like that
- 10:02Speaker 3: for everybody good days and there's bad days, and I
- 10:06Speaker 3: thought that a couple of days ago it wasn't great.
- 10:09Speaker 3: And I thought today that there was some nice chemistry
- 10:12Speaker 3: with twelve and with seven and eleven there was a
- 10:16Speaker 3: beautiful deep ball to park in Washington that was just
- 10:19Speaker 3: i mean, throwing on the money. So today was really
- 10:22Speaker 3: good to see because you know, when when you don't
- 10:24Speaker 3: have a great day as a player, you always want
- 10:27Speaker 3: up to bounce back and have a strong day. And
- 10:30Speaker 3: I'm not saying that the other day that he had
- 10:31Speaker 3: two days ago was poor, It just wasn't his best.
- 10:35Speaker 3: Today I thought was a really strong day. Well here's
- 10:37Speaker 3: a beautiful thing too. The competition between offense and defense
- 10:41Speaker 3: and skill when it across the board is heavy.
- 10:44Speaker 4: I mean it's exciting to watch.
- 10:46Speaker 5: I mean, you got secondary hawking the ball all over
- 10:49Speaker 5: the place trying to get takeaways and by the way
- 10:51Speaker 5: they're doing it, and then you got the receiving corps
- 10:53Speaker 5: making catches like who I mean, unbelievable. So the competition
- 10:58Speaker 5: level every day, everybody had a chance to get really better.
- 11:01Speaker 2: No matter the pads or not, if you're wearing spider
- 11:04Speaker 2: pads or whatever underneath, I mean, there's still they have
- 11:06Speaker 2: to remind them every day. Hey guys, uh, this is
- 11:08Speaker 2: not a padded practice today. Tone it down a little bit,
- 11:12Speaker 2: but that's a hey, rather have to say woe instead
- 11:15Speaker 2: of getting up right absolutely no.
- 11:17Speaker 5: Their energy and the effort that this team has sit
- 11:20Speaker 5: consistently put on that field every day has been again
- 11:23Speaker 5: how the impress it necessary but impressive.
- 11:26Speaker 3: You used to drive me nuts when we would have.
- 11:28Speaker 3: We would have because a lot of people like, what
- 11:31Speaker 3: are you talking about spiders? Okay, we got to explain
- 11:34Speaker 3: this to people. Okay, when when a team is in pads,
- 11:37Speaker 3: it's pads, okay, shoulder pads, the helmet you know that's
- 11:41Speaker 3: from the skit years ago. Shoulder pads, thank you, Okay,
- 11:45Speaker 3: full pads, and then when they wear spiders, spiders are
- 11:50Speaker 3: for lack of a better term, it's a it's a
- 11:53Speaker 3: just a soft pad that sits on the shoulders. But
- 11:56Speaker 3: they're not shoulder pads. There's no hard shell to it,
- 11:59Speaker 3: and a lot of times some guys can't differentiate between
- 12:04Speaker 3: the tempo for spiders and the tempo for.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Full pads, right, Okay, that's right.
- 12:10Speaker 3: There's some guys that just think because there's a pad
- 12:12Speaker 3: on their shoulder, they can go one hundred miles an hour. Okay.
- 12:16Speaker 3: So sometimes in spiders, I think it can be very
- 12:20Speaker 3: confusing because some guys are at one speed, some guys
- 12:24Speaker 3: are at another speed. And uh so I'm not a
- 12:27Speaker 3: big fan of spiders, No not.
- 12:29Speaker 5: And I would say the veteran player like Jeff's been
- 12:32Speaker 5: all the way through, that's the key. Rookies they don't,
- 12:34Speaker 5: they don't see it that way. And those spiders are
- 12:36Speaker 5: like lacrosse pats. It's a lacrosse shield, if you will,
- 12:40Speaker 5: when you get in what we used to call shells
- 12:43Speaker 5: or uppers, that would be the up just the shoulder
- 12:45Speaker 5: pads and shorts, and you know, the differentiation of the
- 12:47Speaker 5: practice mode if you will, or equipment is well stated
- 12:51Speaker 5: by you for people to understand that. I mean, that
- 12:53Speaker 5: does effect. But the young guy he's coming, he's just
- 12:56Speaker 5: like you know, if I'm if I'm Jeff, and these
- 12:58Speaker 5: tight ends are coming off on me or whatever the
- 13:00Speaker 5: case means. Jesus Pete, we got spiders on you know.
- 13:03Speaker 5: So it's another learned trait that you hope the young
- 13:07Speaker 5: bucks get early.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Trying to make the team.
- 13:10Speaker 3: For example, like if you're in full paths, okay, you
- 13:13Speaker 3: got the volume turned ten, okay, you know, almost a ten,
- 13:16Speaker 3: Like it's like a nine, okay, but you're not going
- 13:18Speaker 3: to bury a guy. You're not going to finish them,
- 13:20Speaker 3: You're not going to take him to the ground. And
- 13:22Speaker 3: then spiders, you know, you dial it back from a nine.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Down to about a six, you know.
- 13:29Speaker 3: And there's a lot of you know, the younger guys
- 13:32Speaker 3: that haven't figured that out. You know, they they want
- 13:35Speaker 3: to be all Duval, when the reality is is that
- 13:39Speaker 3: the whole goal is not to be all Duval.
- 13:41Speaker 2: It's to make the football team and then be all pro.
- 13:45Speaker 3: Okay, so but it's hard for young players to kind
- 13:47Speaker 3: of figure that out. But uh, the one thing I
- 13:51Speaker 3: will say is that I like watching practices that have pads.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Those are the ones that have meaning for me to
- 13:58Speaker 3: watch for me.
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- 14:14Speaker 2: Coming up Jaguars dot Com Senior writer John Oser. That's
- 14:18Speaker 2: next on Jaguars Happy Hour. Welcome back. It is Jaguars
- 14:28Speaker 2: Happy Hour Thursday, August six, busy couple hours ahead JP. Shadwick,
- 14:34Speaker 2: Jeff Logman, coach Mark Dufterer with us, and Yes, Jaguars
- 14:39Speaker 2: dot Com Senior writer John Oser joining us in studio
- 14:42Speaker 2: live at JP.
- 14:43Speaker 6: I would say this is a bittersweet moment, but I
- 14:45Speaker 6: guess it's just sweet, right, I mean, it's good.
- 14:48Speaker 2: No, it's uh.
- 14:50Speaker 6: I've written it a few times and you know, it's
- 14:55Speaker 6: how many times have we set the mic together for
- 14:57Speaker 6: fourteen years? And it's been uh yeah, it it's been great.
- 15:01Speaker 2: You'll be missed covered senior bowls and driven and on
- 15:06Speaker 2: the combines and high Velocity bar in the hotel and you.
- 15:11Speaker 6: Don't get to work with somebody fourteen years very often.
- 15:14Speaker 6: And I've enjoyed it.
- 15:15Speaker 2: So you know, I just had to read your stuff
- 15:18Speaker 2: every day online and edit it, you know.
- 15:20Speaker 6: For you it's just very sweet.
- 15:22Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm so glad to be out of here.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
- 15:25Speaker 3: Now, can we share a story about JP and be
- 15:29Speaker 3: a little honest here, John, because you know you spend
- 15:32Speaker 3: some time on the road with JP. Okay, have you
- 15:35Speaker 3: ever known a guy that's ever passed up a good
- 15:38Speaker 3: bar less than JP.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Show he.
- 15:43Speaker 6: Yeah, some stories are meant to stay.
- 15:45Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I just keep it down.
- 15:47Speaker 5: Actually done, at least get to Phoenix, actually start actually
- 15:50Speaker 5: done that.
- 15:51Speaker 3: But it's in a good way, responsible way, in an
- 15:54Speaker 3: adult way.
- 15:56Speaker 2: I'm not anything of that nature. I'm just saying you
- 15:59Speaker 2: like the local flavor, and that's that's a better way
- 16:03Speaker 2: to describe it. Thank good thing, local national.
- 16:09Speaker 6: Favor there was amongst the people, man of the people.
- 16:13Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for coming on though, we appreciate it. It is time. Now,
- 16:17Speaker 2: what what are we doing next year? Let's see, it's
- 16:19Speaker 2: time for players to watch presented about mister Chubby's wings
- 16:22Speaker 2: before the game, after the game, and during the game.
- 16:24Speaker 2: It's Stuff's favorite place. Let's get into this offensive line
- 16:29Speaker 2: situation that has developed over the last few days. Anton
- 16:33Speaker 2: Harrison playing left tackle. You know, at first was I'll
- 16:37Speaker 2: try it out kind of cross train whatever. He's still
- 16:40Speaker 2: out there.
- 16:40Speaker 6: John, And to me, a hallmark of this regime has
- 16:45Speaker 6: been its ability. Last year a wide receiver, remember, wasn't
- 16:49Speaker 6: quite settled during training camp, and sort of in real time,
- 16:53Speaker 6: they turned it into a question They turned a question
- 16:56Speaker 6: mark into a strength by going out and getting not Jacoby,
- 16:59Speaker 6: by just making sure they played Parker Washington when at
- 17:03Speaker 6: first Parker Washington really wasn't the guy. So this team
- 17:06Speaker 6: allows things to happen as it should, doesn't. The Anton
- 17:11Speaker 6: Harrison to left tackle during camp sort of feel like
- 17:13Speaker 6: an organic move of Okay, well Cole's not here, let's.
- 17:17Speaker 3: Try Anton here.
- 17:19Speaker 6: I'll leave it to the football guys. You know a
- 17:21Speaker 6: lot more about it than i. It doesn't Anton on
- 17:23Speaker 6: the left side. Now that it's there, doesn't it make
- 17:26Speaker 6: sense to leave it?
- 17:26Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, me let me jump in quickly because
- 17:29Speaker 5: I'm enthusiastic about it. I mean, it's something that has
- 17:32Speaker 5: been bantered even all last year. You know that was
- 17:35Speaker 5: this position at Oklahoma. Understand his preferred position. He's twenty
- 17:42Speaker 5: four years old. He's probably the best athlete you have
- 17:44Speaker 5: on the offensive line. To get that solidified for the future,
- 17:48Speaker 5: it's brilliant in my opinion, and itch I was saying
- 17:52Speaker 5: before that we've always kind of scratched, well, shouldn't we
- 17:56Speaker 5: it's still out Well, it's over now, I hope if
- 17:58Speaker 5: they make that decision and build on it right now.
- 18:01Speaker 5: And it's brilliant to do it this early in camp
- 18:03Speaker 5: where he can start to work with Cleveland and other
- 18:06Speaker 5: guys that are going to be part of that thing. Personally,
- 18:08Speaker 5: I think it's superb thought. And if they don't whatever,
- 18:11Speaker 5: I love the way that they've cross trained, mix and
- 18:13Speaker 5: match whatever you want to do. It provides depth for
- 18:16Speaker 5: the future. It's smart ball. Kudos to everybody involved.
- 18:20Speaker 6: To me, Jeff, isn't he sort of a natural? Like
- 18:23Speaker 6: his skill set? I guess works it both, but I've
- 18:25Speaker 6: always thought he I'm.
- 18:26Speaker 3: Gonna disagree with Duf a little bit. I think Cleveland
- 18:29Speaker 3: might be the best athlete and a lot of but
- 18:33Speaker 3: he's got as far as for a tackle, sure, I
- 18:35Speaker 3: think he's got great feet.
- 18:36Speaker 4: Sure.
- 18:37Speaker 3: I thought that Anton could have been moved to left
- 18:40Speaker 3: tackle a couple of years ago, and Cam Robinson moved
- 18:42Speaker 3: to right tackle and having conversations with Cole van Landon
- 18:46Speaker 3: over the last year. So he's more comfortable on the
- 18:48Speaker 3: right side. So I think that that makes things kind
- 18:52Speaker 3: of fit right. And I don't know if you necessarily
- 18:56Speaker 3: would have done this last year. And and here's the
- 19:00Speaker 3: reason why. If you go back and you look the
- 19:02Speaker 3: first couple of years with Anton, he wasn't finishing all
- 19:06Speaker 3: the time, and his performance didn't really I think, meet
- 19:10Speaker 3: the expectations of where you wanted him to be.
- 19:13Speaker 2: I thought they did.
- 19:14Speaker 3: A tremendous job of challenging him last year, both Liam
- 19:17Speaker 3: Cohen Shaun Surrett, their offensive line coach, and then also
- 19:20Speaker 3: Tony BASSELLI I think kind of got in the mix
- 19:22Speaker 3: a little bit and having been a Hall of Fame
- 19:24Speaker 3: offensive task good BA and it was clearly Anton Harrison's
- 19:30Speaker 3: best year. And if you base the trust, which trust
- 19:34Speaker 3: is a big word with with coaches, Duff, you know
- 19:36Speaker 3: it very well that if you if you based what
- 19:39Speaker 3: the decision was being made on on just last year
- 19:43Speaker 3: the trust factor, you say, we trust them. And I
- 19:46Speaker 3: think that that having last year under the belt with
- 19:49Speaker 3: Anton Harrison allows you to have that trust to maybe
- 19:53Speaker 3: make this move which appears to be something that may
- 19:56Speaker 3: be long term.
- 19:57Speaker 6: Great points earned it and got to keep earning it.
- 20:01Speaker 6: But it does feel like, Okay, you showed us last
- 20:04Speaker 6: year you can handle it, he said on the field today.
- 20:08Speaker 6: It's something he wants. He's always He's never when he's
- 20:11Speaker 6: been the right tackle, he's never actively said I want
- 20:13Speaker 6: to be the left tackle, but inside you can tell
- 20:16Speaker 6: he wanted to be. And now it's his. You know,
- 20:20Speaker 6: I shouldn't say it's his, but it sure feels like
- 20:23Speaker 6: something has to change now for it not to be his.
- 20:25Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm sure you know, we'll see how long
- 20:27Speaker 2: it takes for Van Lanta to get back too, I mean,
- 20:30Speaker 2: to even get back on the field and close, and
- 20:33Speaker 2: then there'll be conversations around whenever that point is September
- 20:37Speaker 2: or October. Who knows like when that's going to happen.
- 20:39Speaker 3: I don't think we've ever had any kind of expectation
- 20:42Speaker 3: on that, right however laid out by any hap.
- 20:45Speaker 6: I don't think they've ruled out week one, but it's
- 20:48Speaker 6: not like it's guaranteed.
- 20:49Speaker 2: Right, so they'll have to work through that as well. Yeah,
- 20:52Speaker 2: what about the guard spots? Everybody happy with the interior
- 20:55Speaker 2: right now?
- 20:56Speaker 6: After two or three days in pads, I guess went
- 21:02Speaker 6: to the side. Yeah, and I mean it feels like
- 21:07Speaker 6: Mileam will wind up winning that job at what.
- 21:11Speaker 7: Is that left guard?
- 21:12Speaker 6: Right, I'm sorry, right, And then McCarry sort of slides
- 21:19Speaker 6: into the role that Van Lannon was playing last year early,
- 21:23Speaker 6: meaning he's their utility guy.
- 21:24Speaker 2: Because he played all five positions in Baltimore. Right.
- 21:27Speaker 6: And I guess again, I like to lead up the
- 21:30Speaker 6: football guys because they've seen it certainly more than I have.
- 21:35Speaker 6: It sounds like Mylon's coming along the last couple of days.
- 21:37Speaker 2: Well.
- 21:37Speaker 3: I thought he was one of the best five offensive
- 21:39Speaker 3: linemen last year until he got hurt, and his finish
- 21:43Speaker 3: I thought was excellent last year to where his finish
- 21:48Speaker 3: challenged the veterans to learn how to finish like he
- 21:51Speaker 3: was doing, which is very rare to see a rookie
- 21:53Speaker 3: come in and kind of set the tempo in something
- 21:55Speaker 3: of that fashion. But I think he's got a real
- 21:59Speaker 3: good chance there at that the right guard spot. McCarry
- 22:01Speaker 3: has been very limited and practice so far. You know,
- 22:06Speaker 3: the one guy that I will say, Chimney Doug has
- 22:08Speaker 3: been having a good camp so far. And the rookie
- 22:12Speaker 3: at left guard.
- 22:13Speaker 6: I was going to ask you how he because he's
- 22:17Speaker 6: he's a dominant guy.
- 22:18Speaker 3: You know, there's some guys that get off the bus
- 22:20Speaker 3: and look different and then they put the pads on
- 22:23Speaker 3: and and Duff will tell you they don't play like Tarzan.
- 22:26Speaker 2: They play more like Jane.
- 22:27Speaker 3: Okay. But there's some guys that get off the bus
- 22:29Speaker 3: that look like Tarzan, and they play like Tarzan, no doubt. Okay.
- 22:33Speaker 3: And I'm talking play like men. When he gets when.
- 22:35Speaker 2: Pregnant gets his hands on somebody, it's over.
- 22:40Speaker 4: It's over.
- 22:40Speaker 2: But where does he play this year? Yeah?
- 22:44Speaker 3: But here's the thing, there's there's always something that may
- 22:47Speaker 3: not quite feel right. Okay, that going back to that
- 22:50Speaker 3: word trust. Okay, Ezra Cleveland arguably your best athlete along
- 22:54Speaker 3: the offensive line as a guard. Okay, if you've got
- 22:58Speaker 3: to block somebody that moves like naming the racing headlines,
- 23:02Speaker 3: Aaron Nondell, who can get on an edge real quick.
- 23:05Speaker 3: Not Pregnan's strong suit. Okay. So that's something that he's
- 23:09Speaker 3: got to learn how to do to get real more
- 23:11Speaker 3: discipline and sets and everything else. But you gotta build trust.
- 23:15Speaker 3: You got to track record with Ezra Cleveland and you
- 23:18Speaker 3: trust them. You got to build trust with Pregnant and
- 23:20Speaker 3: you got to see him take on those scat guys
- 23:23Speaker 3: that are quick to get on an edge on an
- 23:25Speaker 3: offensive guard, and can he handle that quickness you know
- 23:29Speaker 3: when it comes to the power and the brute strength. Again,
- 23:32Speaker 3: once he gets his hands on guys, it's over.
- 23:34Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 23:35Speaker 6: One thing I think JPU and I have talked about
- 23:37Speaker 6: it that people miss around here because you know, for
- 23:39Speaker 6: a long time this franchise wasn't where it wanted to be.
- 23:42Speaker 6: I think that's not breaking any news. You ideally like
- 23:47Speaker 6: to be able to draft offensive linemen and not have
- 23:50Speaker 6: them have to play right away because they can grow
- 23:53Speaker 6: into themselves. So all of a sudden two years in
- 23:55Speaker 6: a row, now it looks like you drafted mile him,
- 23:58Speaker 6: didn't have to play them, you'd have to pregnant and
- 24:01Speaker 6: maybe not have to play him and really ready to
- 24:03Speaker 6: go hear two. I get questions from fans criticizing that,
- 24:08Speaker 6: and my thought is always, that's the mark that you're
- 24:10Speaker 6: where you want to be. You've got seven or eight
- 24:12Speaker 6: guys and not four.
- 24:14Speaker 5: How good teams outstanding point John, no question you want
- 24:18Speaker 5: to be like that. And and again I think Milam's
- 24:21Speaker 5: getting reps right now. There are quality reps. Pregnant is
- 24:24Speaker 5: going to get more and more having McCary there. I mean,
- 24:26Speaker 5: this is awesome right now. The setting we've got in
- 24:28Speaker 5: terms of the players, you should feel great about it.
- 24:31Speaker 5: But these young guys, it's getting its money in the bank.
- 24:33Speaker 3: I think it's one of the best most competitive offensive
- 24:37Speaker 3: lines that we've seen here in a long time, because
- 24:40Speaker 3: let's not ignore the center positions.
- 24:44Speaker 2: I Monheim, I like him. I think he's doing a
- 24:46Speaker 2: really good job.
- 24:46Speaker 3: He's you know, and both guys have strong traits Hainsey
- 24:50Speaker 3: and Monheim and are a little bit different. But that's
- 24:53Speaker 3: competition there too, and that's real.
- 24:54Speaker 6: We've just talked about a dooga McCary Monnheim.
- 25:00Speaker 7: It's for guys.
- 25:01Speaker 2: It might not start, yeah, true.
- 25:03Speaker 5: Crazy lord man, No, no, no, I'm serious.
- 25:11Speaker 4: That's good stuff right now. That's just what we want
- 25:13Speaker 4: to be in.
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- 25:50Speaker 2: in a moment, John, it's a pleasure to see you.
- 25:52Speaker 2: Always been a pleasure friend fourteen years. Man, we've been
- 25:55Speaker 2: doing this haul two touchdowns. If you want to talk
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- 26:04Speaker 2: John Oser, Jaguars dot Com Senior writer. We'll return with
- 26:07Speaker 2: Pride of the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor. This is
- 26:10Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour. Welcome back. It is Jaguars Happy Hour
- 26:20Speaker 2: from the Hyundai Studios, the Miller Electric Center. JP Shadrick
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- 26:27Speaker 2: back with us here in just a few minutes. Coming
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- 26:46Speaker 2: on ten to Nextel ninety two point five FM, Jaguars
- 26:49Speaker 2: dot Com, Jaguars YouTube it is pride of the Jaguars
- 26:53Speaker 2: running back Fred Taylor and our pregame and postgame guest
- 26:58Speaker 2: and host and one of our best friends in the world.
- 27:01Speaker 2: Freddie t what's up man? How are you? Thanks for
- 27:03Speaker 2: coming on JP.
- 27:05Speaker 8: I'm okay, man, I could be better, but I am okay.
- 27:10Speaker 7: I'm gonna be okay.
- 27:11Speaker 8: I'm gonna miss you, I'll say that first and foremost,
- 27:15Speaker 8: but things are okay, just constantly pivoting as you are,
- 27:19Speaker 8: and I am so excited for you.
- 27:22Speaker 7: Brother. Man.
- 27:24Speaker 8: You you've been I can say I admire you. You've
- 27:29Speaker 8: been one of my closest allies and friends, especially in
- 27:32Speaker 8: this media space, and I didn't take working alongside you lightly.
- 27:37Speaker 8: So I do appreciate you for making me better in
- 27:40Speaker 8: this space and always challenging me to be, you know,
- 27:43Speaker 8: at my best when we work together. So I'm gonna
- 27:47Speaker 8: miss that, but I know you're just a text away.
- 27:49Speaker 8: I'm gonna miss our our bar hops in London too.
- 27:53Speaker 2: We've done a couple of those over the years, Fred,
- 27:55Speaker 2: for sure. Yeah, so you're calling me out in front
- 27:58Speaker 2: of the logs he was, he was saying stuff earlier
- 28:00Speaker 2: about that. Now you came in with us in post.
- 28:05Speaker 2: Can forget the year? What year was that, Fred? Do
- 28:06Speaker 2: you remember?
- 28:07Speaker 8: I think of that like twenty twelve and something, And
- 28:09Speaker 8: it was kind of convinced me to take on the role.
- 28:13Speaker 8: And it's been one of the best decisions, you know,
- 28:16Speaker 8: ever made.
- 28:17Speaker 7: And shout out to Dan for believing in me.
- 28:19Speaker 2: Oh yeah, same same here with me. But it's been
- 28:22Speaker 2: fun to see you grow into this space, I mean,
- 28:25Speaker 2: because I think at first, you know, you were trying
- 28:28Speaker 2: to figure out what to say and the impact of
- 28:30Speaker 2: what you say and didn't want to, you know, make
- 28:33Speaker 2: anybody mad. And then as it went I think you
- 28:37Speaker 2: really started to grow into that and realized that what
- 28:41Speaker 2: you say does carry a lot of weight and so
- 28:45Speaker 2: what it's your opinion on players and coaching and whatever
- 28:48Speaker 2: it was. And I think that's really been fun to
- 28:51Speaker 2: watch your growth in this space. And now obviously you've
- 28:54Speaker 2: taken it to an whole different level with the pivot
- 28:57Speaker 2: in these interviews and what you're doing, and the sky's
- 29:00Speaker 2: the limit I think for you and your team over there.
- 29:02Speaker 2: So I just wanted to say thank you very much
- 29:04Speaker 2: for all that. Fred. It's been fun.
- 29:06Speaker 7: No, I really appreciated.
- 29:07Speaker 8: The thing I learned is when you're doing this from
- 29:10Speaker 8: a former player perspective, and I know Jeff Lars can
- 29:14Speaker 8: speak to it as well as Tony when he comes on,
- 29:17Speaker 8: you have to take on that leadership mindset. If you're
- 29:22Speaker 8: a leader in the locker room, guys shouldn't feel offended
- 29:24Speaker 8: if you call him out. You know, it's not my
- 29:27Speaker 8: job to beat them up for having a bad player
- 29:30Speaker 8: or two, but it's my job to echo when they
- 29:33Speaker 8: play great. But it's just my job to give an
- 29:36Speaker 8: unbiased opinion, you know, and let them know that, yeah,
- 29:40Speaker 8: I love you, Yeah, you know that you didn't play
- 29:42Speaker 8: your best, but I do believe that you'll have better days.
- 29:45Speaker 8: So just speaking from that approach while also trying to
- 29:49Speaker 8: be honest so the fan base don't take away my credibility.
- 29:54Speaker 8: I learned to do that over the years. So it's
- 29:56Speaker 8: been great, man, it's been good.
- 29:59Speaker 2: Maybe you throw four picks in a game, that doesn't
- 30:01Speaker 2: mean you're a bad guy for throwing four picks in
- 30:03Speaker 2: a game. That just means we've got to figure out
- 30:05Speaker 2: why you threw four picks in the game, and that's
- 30:07Speaker 2: what our post game show is about a lot of
- 30:09Speaker 2: the times. Real quick, one more thought on this before
- 30:11Speaker 2: we talk a little football thread, but what's your favorite
- 30:15Speaker 2: memory of doing postgame Like? We've had some really really
- 30:19Speaker 2: wild games, wins, losses. Which one stands out the most?
- 30:23Speaker 6: You?
- 30:26Speaker 8: I think one because you just mentioned throwing four picks
- 30:30Speaker 8: and bouncing back.
- 30:32Speaker 7: We can go through that Chargers game quickly. Man.
- 30:36Speaker 8: It was a playoff game, you know, just just the
- 30:39Speaker 8: atmosphere and everything that followed in that particular moment, that
- 30:45Speaker 8: one stands out immediately.
- 30:47Speaker 7: We've we've done.
- 30:48Speaker 8: So many jp over the years, man, it's kind of
- 30:51Speaker 8: really hard to just it's a tough single one out
- 30:54Speaker 8: pendpoint one. We had some after even after the losses
- 30:59Speaker 8: that were hard to show up for, you know, tough
- 31:02Speaker 8: losses at that where you expected the team to win
- 31:07Speaker 8: and the game was so close and then they became
- 31:11Speaker 8: sort of redundant, like it was week two, week to
- 31:13Speaker 8: week similar style losses. And here we are getting on
- 31:17Speaker 8: the show trying to put our best foot foot forward
- 31:20Speaker 8: to speak positively about the guys hoping that the next
- 31:23Speaker 8: week was gonna be you know, that week that they
- 31:27Speaker 8: did get a win.
- 31:28Speaker 7: But we just stood in the paint man and did
- 31:30Speaker 7: our job.
- 31:31Speaker 8: And now we're able to witness the team go and
- 31:35Speaker 8: do their job, a team that, you know, what was
- 31:38Speaker 8: it thirteen and four year ago put a great product
- 31:42Speaker 8: on the field.
- 31:42Speaker 7: Hoping to see more of the same this year, and.
- 31:45Speaker 8: I will hope that for you as you you know,
- 31:47Speaker 8: venture out west, it's gonna be a little tougher for you.
- 31:51Speaker 2: But hey, I've seen some things.
- 31:53Speaker 9: Fred, It's okay, exactly, this is true.
- 31:56Speaker 7: This is true.
- 31:57Speaker 8: And shout out to my young running back out there,
- 32:00Speaker 8: Jeremiah Lovey.
- 32:01Speaker 7: You're gonna enjoy calling his name.
- 32:03Speaker 2: Awesome. Yeah, looking forward to getting out there for sure.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Fred Taylor with us pride of the Jaguars running back
- 32:08Speaker 2: for a few more minutes here, let's get into this
- 32:10Speaker 2: Jaguars running back room. Now. Obviously a Chan's gone, he's
- 32:14Speaker 2: in New Orleans, so it opens up the door for
- 32:17Speaker 2: the two young guys from last year. Of course, Touton
- 32:20Speaker 2: and Allen kind of feel like they're leading the way.
- 32:22Speaker 2: We've seen Chris Rodriguez out of practice, Fred, which is
- 32:25Speaker 2: good after his off season foot issue and some salty
- 32:29Speaker 2: vets around here too. In DJ Dallas a mirror Abdula
- 32:32Speaker 2: in year twelve, Jamari Taylor is a rookie who's flashed
- 32:36Speaker 2: some Fred. So where do you stand with the running
- 32:40Speaker 2: back room? I know you haven't really been here in
- 32:42Speaker 2: person to see it, but what are you hearing at least?
- 32:44Speaker 2: And how do you think this should be able to
- 32:48Speaker 2: kind of flesh itself out?
- 32:50Speaker 8: You know, it'll flesh yourself out, you know, I think
- 32:52Speaker 8: we have some great evaluators. You know Tony obviously he's
- 32:56Speaker 8: going to pick up on their energy and that attitude
- 32:59Speaker 8: of mindset. I know that's gonna help carry whoever steps
- 33:03Speaker 8: up and become the guy from that room as well
- 33:07Speaker 8: as coach Cohen Liam you know, he's gonna figure out
- 33:11Speaker 8: who's gonna be the best fit alongside Trevor, because whoever
- 33:14Speaker 8: it is, it's not simply about just running the ball
- 33:18Speaker 8: and being explosive. They gotta be able to pass protect,
- 33:21Speaker 8: They gotta be able to know route concepts in the
- 33:23Speaker 8: passing games.
- 33:24Speaker 7: They gotta be able to.
- 33:25Speaker 8: Make sure Trevor Lawrence is comfortable with whoever he's handing
- 33:29Speaker 8: it off to and whoever is protecting him and whoever
- 33:32Speaker 8: he has to throw the ball to. So the guy
- 33:35Speaker 8: that's able to do that on a more consistent basis
- 33:38Speaker 8: will be the guy that emerge as the starter. And
- 33:41Speaker 8: the competition is healthy, it's gonna make each every one
- 33:44Speaker 8: of those guys go out there and perform their best,
- 33:48Speaker 8: and pressure is gonna break some pipes.
- 33:50Speaker 7: So I'm gonna tell you this, I love Tooting.
- 33:54Speaker 8: He has the one thing that separates him from the
- 33:56Speaker 8: rest of the guys in that room, and that speed
- 33:59Speaker 8: you can't coat. But also he's a guy that has
- 34:04Speaker 8: to learn how to play more tempo and under control.
- 34:07Speaker 8: But here on the film is Laquinn Allen. He's the
- 34:10Speaker 8: hardest working player on the team. Just being out there
- 34:13Speaker 8: briefly during OTAs just his demeanor, his body language, is
- 34:18Speaker 8: his energy. He would be my pick today to emerge,
- 34:23Speaker 8: but again, I'm not around enough. I haven't seen every rep.
- 34:26Speaker 8: But I do love his heart. I love to feel
- 34:29Speaker 8: the energy when I'm around him. But whoever it is, JP,
- 34:33Speaker 8: I just want them to be able to have healthy
- 34:35Speaker 8: competition and to help each other. One guy who will
- 34:39Speaker 8: not get all the reps, so they're gonna be able
- 34:41Speaker 8: to split time and bring their best foot forward and
- 34:45Speaker 8: do whatever necessary to help this team win.
- 34:48Speaker 7: And make it back to the playoffs.
- 34:49Speaker 2: Fred I think everybody loved watching Laquinn Allen play last year,
- 34:53Speaker 2: just with the physicality he played. Yet on offense we
- 34:56Speaker 2: see that pass protection and everything, but in special teams
- 34:59Speaker 2: flying down on the field and taking plays and giving
- 35:02Speaker 2: up his body. I mean, that's a big body coming
- 35:04Speaker 2: at you with an attitude to go with it.
- 35:07Speaker 8: Yeah he does, and again he's fearless. We just recently
- 35:12Speaker 8: did Jeffrey Simmons on the Show during the Arts stop
- 35:15Speaker 8: in Tennessee for our training camp tour, and I wanted
- 35:18Speaker 8: to remind him of the shot that li Quin gave him.
- 35:22Speaker 8: But he's a big guy, so I was a little
- 35:24Speaker 8: timid when I got ready to bring it up. But again,
- 35:28Speaker 8: look Quin, he wouldn't have been afraid in that particular moment.
- 35:32Speaker 8: But he does it all man, And as a coach,
- 35:35Speaker 8: you get excited to see your guys just be able
- 35:38Speaker 8: to go dig out the defender.
- 35:40Speaker 7: So it's up in the air whoever it is, whoever they.
- 35:44Speaker 8: Are, because again I believe it's gonna be a by
- 35:47Speaker 8: a committee approach. Hopefully they can get the job done.
- 35:50Speaker 8: But more importantly, they got to take care of the football.
- 35:53Speaker 8: I don't care about the other stuff. Take care of
- 35:56Speaker 8: the football. You give yourself an.
- 35:57Speaker 2: Opportunity and the ball is on the deck. That's bad
- 35:59Speaker 2: for business for sure. Fred, When are you coming to camp.
- 36:04Speaker 7: Soon? Can I say Sunday?
- 36:06Speaker 2: Okay, Sunday.
- 36:08Speaker 7: I'll be there Sunday. I know it's an off day,
- 36:11Speaker 7: I believe.
- 36:12Speaker 2: No, they're practicing Sunday Saturdays.
- 36:14Speaker 8: Okay, No, I'm sorry, it's not Sunday. My days are all
- 36:17Speaker 8: running together, JP, It's Monday. It is Monday, officially Monday.
- 36:22Speaker 8: I will be there. We are going to sit down
- 36:25Speaker 8: with coach Cohen on the pivot, so something the Jaguar
- 36:29Speaker 8: fan base I've been looking forward to, and maybe even Travis.
- 36:34Speaker 8: I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I do believe
- 36:38Speaker 8: Travis in his return and all that he's doing here
- 36:41Speaker 8: in camp, would be a great opportunity to sit down
- 36:44Speaker 8: and catch up with him. It's been a while since
- 36:46Speaker 8: we spoke to him, since before he won the Heisman
- 36:49Speaker 8: back to Colorado. So maybe we can get that done
- 36:53Speaker 8: and give the Jaguars fan something to engage in before
- 36:57Speaker 8: the season starts.
- 36:58Speaker 2: We'll look forward to that hopefully works out. Fred. It's
- 37:01Speaker 2: been a pleasure since twenty twelve to get to know you.
- 37:03Speaker 2: And it's not over. You know, we're just across the country.
- 37:07Speaker 2: It's okay, and but I appreciate everything you've done for
- 37:11Speaker 2: us and for me personally. So thanks for coming on. Fred.
- 37:15Speaker 2: We appreciate you.
- 37:16Speaker 7: Oh man, I wouldn't have never missed this.
- 37:17Speaker 5: Man.
- 37:18Speaker 7: This is our last one.
- 37:19Speaker 8: So as you go out, we got to give each
- 37:22Speaker 8: other a big dougall if you can sure you know
- 37:25Speaker 8: it might be your I'm sure it won't be your
- 37:26Speaker 8: last one, but it'll be our last one together.
- 37:30Speaker 7: Ready, let's do it all right? One two three, I
- 37:37Speaker 7: kind of jumped the guns.
- 37:38Speaker 2: That's okay. I love it, man, you know it's we
- 37:41Speaker 2: spent a lot of time on postgame with people stuck
- 37:43Speaker 2: in traffic listening to us SO and Mike Dempsey with
- 37:46Speaker 2: us as well. So a pleasure. Fred. We'll talk to
- 37:49Speaker 2: you soon.
- 37:50Speaker 7: I catch up with you in a bit, Jay be
- 37:52Speaker 7: good Man, Red.
- 37:53Speaker 2: Taylor prior to the Jaguars running back joining us back
- 37:56Speaker 2: in a moment, Duff and Logs return, Kinnannie Stevens joined
- 38:00Speaker 2: just as well. Then at five o'clock, Pete Prisco, Tony
- 38:04Speaker 2: Busselli on Jaggs HQ. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, Welcome back.
- 38:17Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour, brought to you in part
- 38:20Speaker 2: by g E H a Government Employees Health Association from
- 38:23Speaker 2: the Hyundai studios at the Miller Electric Center. To in
- 38:26Speaker 2: TONXL ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube.
- 38:32Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman coach, Mark Duffner and Kayannie Stevens, Jaguars reporter
- 38:36Speaker 2: jumps in.
- 38:37Speaker 10: How are you quite the guestless you have today?
- 38:39Speaker 2: At the lockwork.
- 38:40Speaker 10: I'm in between Fred Taylor and the Hall of Fame
- 38:41Speaker 10: at Tony Biselli, so I appreciate you still getting me in,
- 38:45Speaker 10: but I did come bearing a gift. Oh wow, everyone's
- 38:47Speaker 10: talking about JP loves the bar. He also loves his cigars.
- 38:50Speaker 8: So nice.
- 38:54Speaker 4: Harry celebrates.
- 38:55Speaker 2: I don't think they allow smoking in this building?
- 38:57Speaker 10: Yeah, probably not, don't That's awesome.
- 38:59Speaker 2: Fir nice, very nice, very nice.
- 39:01Speaker 6: Thank you you deserve it.
- 39:04Speaker 2: You're relatively new to us here a couple of years
- 39:07Speaker 2: ago now, but it's been a pleasure to sit beside
- 39:10Speaker 2: you every day and talk ball.
- 39:12Speaker 10: I appreciate that. So JP. For those of you guys
- 39:14Speaker 10: that don't know. In the office, JP's desk is next
- 39:16Speaker 10: to mine, so I'm always bothering him with things and
- 39:19Speaker 10: asking him about things that have happened in the past.
- 39:21Speaker 10: Jaguars history obviously knows a lot more than I.
- 39:23Speaker 2: We got a lot of Jaguars history.
- 39:25Speaker 10: And there's been a lot, so he's always I always
- 39:27Speaker 10: appreciated you were such a good resource for me because
- 39:30Speaker 10: I've worked certain different places. Not everybody is as welcoming,
- 39:33Speaker 10: and JP was very welcoming from the very first day,
- 39:35Speaker 10: and I always appreciated that.
- 39:37Speaker 2: Sweet, that's awesome, Thank you for coming in. We appreciate that.
- 39:41Speaker 2: All right, let's talk a little ball here about ball,
- 39:44Speaker 2: let's get let's get to the injury report presented by
- 39:47Speaker 2: UF Health Cole Van Landon's still on pop list. Of course,
- 39:50Speaker 2: we talked a little bit about that earlier, guys, that
- 39:52Speaker 2: Christian Braswell has been working off to the side, pregnant
- 39:55Speaker 2: was working off to the side for a minute today
- 39:57Speaker 2: as well. But there's a few that stand out. And
- 40:01Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about Anton Harrison playing left tackle
- 40:03Speaker 2: the last five days or so, about.
- 40:08Speaker 9: Six but who's six sorry, je County apparently, Jeff Logoman,
- 40:14Speaker 9: what about let's get into this receiver room, because you know,
- 40:18Speaker 9: obviously they did a lot of their work last year
- 40:20Speaker 9: without Travis Hunter out there, and that's the bulk of
- 40:23Speaker 9: their production was that.
- 40:25Speaker 2: Parker Washington seems to be having another good camp in
- 40:27Speaker 2: his contract year for him. Brian Thomas Junior's made some
- 40:31Speaker 2: nice catches over the shoulder, down the field looking good.
- 40:33Speaker 2: Have some confidence about him. Obviously Jacoby's had some drops early,
- 40:38Speaker 2: but they're not worried about him. This is a strong group.
- 40:41Speaker 2: It may not have a true like number one guy,
- 40:44Speaker 2: and maybe Brian Thomas emerges into that, but pound for
- 40:48Speaker 2: pound they're pretty darn strong.
- 40:49Speaker 10: And I think they might operate best that way. I
- 40:51Speaker 10: know Trevor likes to have options. I feel sometimes when
- 40:53Speaker 10: he feels pigeonholed, that's not the best way to operate
- 40:56Speaker 10: for him. So having all of those options that he
- 40:58Speaker 10: actually trusts and can go to and have the same
- 41:01Speaker 10: amount of trust in all those different guys is a
- 41:03Speaker 10: good thing to have. And then also I've been impressed
- 41:05Speaker 10: with some of the rookies. Josh Cameron every day makes
- 41:07Speaker 10: a catch where I'm like ooh, Like it's always it's
- 41:09Speaker 10: almost always the play of the day as a Josh
- 41:11Speaker 10: Cameron some kind of crazy catch, and he's a little
- 41:13Speaker 10: more physical as well. He's a bigger receiver, which is
- 41:15Speaker 10: something they've been looking for for a while, like someone
- 41:17Speaker 10: that can go up and get it or something. He
- 41:19Speaker 10: can go up and get it. He also is someone
- 41:21Speaker 10: that they've used a little bit in the punt return game.
- 41:23Speaker 10: So whether or not, because Parker Washington is amazing on
- 41:25Speaker 10: special teams, but when you have an amazing player on offense,
- 41:28Speaker 10: they don't always want to use him on special teams.
- 41:30Speaker 10: So I don't know if they'll continue to use him
- 41:32Speaker 10: in the same way. But Josh Cameron someone that's really
- 41:34Speaker 10: explosive and has the ability to be there as well.
- 41:36Speaker 10: And so that's why I'm kind of looking forward to
- 41:38Speaker 10: the mock game tomorrow because that's when we see some
- 41:40Speaker 10: of the combinations, some of the possibilities where they're thinking
- 41:43Speaker 10: ahead of where they may actually use them come season time.
- 41:46Speaker 10: So and even the offensive line too.
- 41:48Speaker 4: Yeah, let me just say this to you, it's wow.
- 41:51Speaker 4: This group is a wow group. Who are you going
- 41:53Speaker 4: to defend?
- 41:53Speaker 2: Right?
- 41:54Speaker 4: I mean?
- 41:54Speaker 5: And how are you going to defend it and then
- 41:55Speaker 5: throw the tide end and said, I mean, all these
- 41:58Speaker 5: guys are players right now. I mean Jeezel and I
- 42:01Speaker 5: think Byan Thomas is a number one. But Parker Washington
- 42:05Speaker 5: every Day's got highlights out there. Jakobe Meyer's steady player.
- 42:09Speaker 5: The two rookies she talked about, Kay you mentioned again
- 42:12Speaker 5: Cameron every day too. Williams is an excellent route runner Cheesel.
- 42:17Speaker 4: I mean, I don't.
- 42:18Speaker 5: I mean, I'm hey, I think we're I think it's
- 42:21Speaker 5: great and that it's going to be nightmares for the
- 42:23Speaker 5: defensive coordinator and the defensive opponent staff.
- 42:26Speaker 3: I think with the two young wide receivers, somebody's got
- 42:29Speaker 3: to emerge in that special team's role. Oh yeah, you know,
- 42:32Speaker 3: because the reality is those two young guys aren't going
- 42:34Speaker 3: to find a role catching the ball.
- 42:36Speaker 2: I mean, who are you going to take ball away
- 42:37Speaker 2: from Parker Brian Travis No, no, no, Jacoby no no
- 42:43Speaker 2: bent and Brenton Strange no no, you know.
- 42:46Speaker 3: But just a quick little note on the tight end group,
- 42:48Speaker 3: and I made this comment earlier today. I think that
- 42:52Speaker 3: this is the deepest, most talented tight end group that's
- 42:54Speaker 3: ever been had in Jaguars, ever in the history of the.
- 42:58Speaker 2: Franchise thirty plus years.
- 42:59Speaker 4: Yep.
- 43:00Speaker 3: I mean, name me a better collection. You go back
- 43:02Speaker 3: to Mercedes Lewis and Kyle Brady, but they were blocking
- 43:07Speaker 3: tight ends. Okay.
- 43:08Speaker 2: Brenton Strange is the top It was a contract year
- 43:11Speaker 2: from Mercedes. He had ten touchdowns or something, right, of course.
- 43:13Speaker 3: But on like fifteen catches something crazy like that. Okay,
- 43:18Speaker 3: but Brenton Strange is the top five tight end. Okay,
- 43:21Speaker 3: your your draft pick tight ends. Borcashire is going to
- 43:24Speaker 3: be a very balanced tight end that can block and catch, Okay.
- 43:29Speaker 3: And I think the hidden gem might be Cozy Ol
- 43:32Speaker 3: because he runs really well six and he's always been
- 43:35Speaker 3: a willing blocker. He's got the size that you talk about,
- 43:38Speaker 3: but he's going to get some coaching, okay, on how
- 43:41Speaker 3: to block a little bit better. His base got narrow
- 43:43Speaker 3: when he was in college, but he's always been a
- 43:45Speaker 3: willing blocker. And then look at some of the other
- 43:48Speaker 3: guys that are on this football team. I mean, heck
- 43:50Speaker 3: eighty last year might have been one of the best
- 43:53Speaker 3: core special teamers. Shoot his name, Quinton Morris on the
- 43:59Speaker 3: best pacal the teamers you had on your roster.
- 44:01Speaker 2: And he was great when when Britain was hurt, he
- 44:03Speaker 2: stepped in an offense and he was kicking some people's
- 44:06Speaker 2: you know what down the field.
- 44:07Speaker 4: He had some of the.
- 44:08Speaker 2: Best what what.
- 44:11Speaker 4: Nice?
- 44:13Speaker 5: Love that Hunter Long had some catches last year. And boy,
- 44:15Speaker 5: he's having a pretty good camp. So I'm with I'm
- 44:18Speaker 5: with Jeff.
- 44:19Speaker 2: He's having a great, a really good camp.
- 44:20Speaker 3: And here's the crazy thing. We kind of just kind
- 44:23Speaker 3: of write him off a little bit, but not so fast.
- 44:26Speaker 3: He's having a better camp than he had last year.
- 44:29Speaker 3: Keeping four tight ends, yes, and here's why. Okay, there's
- 44:35Speaker 3: a reason why they drafted two tight ends. It's because
- 44:38Speaker 3: the coach wants to have tight ends and his play
- 44:41Speaker 3: calling arsenal. That's the wave of the NFL nowadays is
- 44:45Speaker 3: to have the tight ends. And Duff, you could probably
- 44:48Speaker 3: explain this better than I of what having two tight
- 44:52Speaker 3: ends on the field does and limiting a defense's options
- 44:56Speaker 3: as far as play calling.
- 44:57Speaker 5: Well, Jeff, I don't know if I can, because you're
- 44:58Speaker 5: darn good at it, but I will say to you it
- 45:01Speaker 5: puts major stress on the defense run game and pass game.
- 45:05Speaker 5: And then when you bring in thirteen personnel where you
- 45:08Speaker 5: have three tight ends, one running back and one receiver
- 45:11Speaker 5: in the game. A lot of teams don't know how
- 45:13Speaker 5: to line up to it. They get misaligned. You can
- 45:17Speaker 5: incorporate unbalanced line in that group too. And then if
- 45:20Speaker 5: you open that up with guys that are legit receivers,
- 45:23Speaker 5: which we got Jeezel, now that they may have send
- 45:26Speaker 5: in their big guys to match you up, and then
- 45:28Speaker 5: now they can't match up in terms of the pass game.
- 45:30Speaker 5: So it just is a brilliant way to attack. Have
- 45:34Speaker 5: more bullets in your belt right now to go after defenses.
- 45:37Speaker 5: And we've got real guys, real guys.
- 45:40Speaker 3: Okay, going back a couple of years ago, the tight
- 45:41Speaker 3: end that we had Evan Ingram. Okay, if you got
- 45:46Speaker 3: three Evan Ingram's on the field, you know what the
- 45:48Speaker 3: defense is going to do, Trade them like wide receivers. Okay,
- 45:51Speaker 3: So there's no advantage to that. But when you have
- 45:55Speaker 3: Breton Strange and Porkershire and Coles y'all, who were all
- 46:00Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty pound plus guys that ken block
- 46:04Speaker 3: and also receive, now you're giving one of the best
- 46:07Speaker 3: play callers in the National Football League, okay, a lot
- 46:11Speaker 3: of toys to play with and limiting defenses options to
- 46:15Speaker 3: be able to combat it.
- 46:15Speaker 4: And I'm with Jeff.
- 46:16Speaker 5: Jeff told me early last year about strange about what
- 46:20Speaker 5: a quality player is, and I watched him this this
- 46:22Speaker 5: season started and went on, you talk about a blocker. Man,
- 46:25Speaker 5: I know he's a great receiver, but jeez, I coach
- 46:28Speaker 5: those outside backers and they're always we're always looking for
- 46:31Speaker 5: a guy.
- 46:31Speaker 4: Is he gonna really block? This cat will block you
- 46:34Speaker 4: and he stays on you. So he's got.
- 46:36Speaker 5: What you want, both in terms of the run game
- 46:38Speaker 5: and the pass game. I mean, a terrific addition or
- 46:42Speaker 5: productive player for us.
- 46:43Speaker 2: All Right, what do you got coming up for a
- 46:46Speaker 2: camp coverage? Because I have no idea.
- 46:50Speaker 10: Yeah, you got some other stuff to go on, you
- 46:52Speaker 10: got you got stuff to do. This week, we're back
- 46:54Speaker 10: on Jags AM, so that's great. We get a little
- 46:55Speaker 10: bit of a recap every week, and it'll be two
- 46:57Speaker 10: shows next week. We'll be on Tuesday and Thursday, so
- 47:00Speaker 10: we're back to a couple of days a week, so
- 47:01Speaker 10: we can kind of get everybody back on board. And
- 47:03Speaker 10: we're always live from practice. You get a live view
- 47:05Speaker 10: as well of what's going on during the day, so
- 47:07Speaker 10: it's cool. Look if you can't get into practice, which
- 47:09Speaker 10: I think they're still available availability for tomorrow, but if
- 47:13Speaker 10: you can't get in, it's a nice way to kind
- 47:14Speaker 10: of watch it that way, and it's cool. And forgive
- 47:17Speaker 10: me if I'm incorrect. It feels like a year where
- 47:21Speaker 10: they're gonna cut some really good guys that are going
- 47:22Speaker 10: to go somewhere else and see a lot of success.
- 47:24Speaker 10: And in the last couple of years that I don't
- 47:26Speaker 10: know if there's been as many, but this seems like
- 47:28Speaker 10: a roster where there's not a ton of spots that
- 47:30Speaker 10: are open, and there's gonna be a lot of good
- 47:31Speaker 10: guys that maybe end up somewhere else. But having that
- 47:34Speaker 10: competition on the field in training camp is very unique
- 47:39Speaker 10: this year and it's cool to see it and see
- 47:41Speaker 10: everybody get better.
- 47:42Speaker 2: That's a good feeling. That means team's pretty darn good
- 47:44Speaker 2: if you're good players at the deadline coming up. Kai
- 47:48Speaker 2: been a pleasure.
- 47:49Speaker 10: Thank you for sing me. I appreciate that. I'm gonna
- 47:52Speaker 10: have to it's a long distance call for me to
- 47:54Speaker 10: talk craft to you.
- 47:55Speaker 2: Now.
- 47:55Speaker 10: I can't just turn over to my left I think
- 47:59Speaker 10: you're still in the NFL email system, so I.
- 48:01Speaker 2: Will bother you. Okay, Cat's fine.
- 48:03Speaker 4: It's going to happen.
- 48:04Speaker 10: To just be prepared.
- 48:04Speaker 2: Love that Kay Stevens with us of course, Coach Duffner,
- 48:08Speaker 2: it's a pleasure, brother.
- 48:10Speaker 4: It's been my pleasure.
- 48:11Speaker 5: And I again I mentioned earlier, Arizona doesn't know how
- 48:14Speaker 5: good they've got it with you arriving there. You've done
- 48:17Speaker 5: a magnificent job. I appreciate how you've helped me along
- 48:20Speaker 5: in this end of it and are true professional.
- 48:23Speaker 2: And we go back to my first year twenty twelve
- 48:26Speaker 2: when you're on the coaching staff, and it's been fun
- 48:30Speaker 2: to follow your career since you left here, and then
- 48:33Speaker 2: now that you're back with us, it's been a pleasure
- 48:35Speaker 2: to really slip down with week.
- 48:37Speaker 5: But I will just say again I couldn't be more
- 48:41Speaker 5: excited for you.
- 48:41Speaker 2: It's well deserved. We're lucky to have you on our
- 48:43Speaker 2: ear that's for SUREF and Logs. I'll get with you later. Yeah,
- 48:48Speaker 2: so we'll discuss all that coming up. What do you
- 48:51Speaker 2: guys want to hear from Pete and Tony coming up?
- 48:53Speaker 10: Oh gosh, just let Pete go on a ramp for
- 48:55Speaker 10: ten minutes to you be fine.
- 48:57Speaker 2: All I know is a JP you better make sure
- 48:59Speaker 2: you got your thick skin on. But no, it's it's coming.
- 49:03Speaker 2: I mean this is apparently the mash unit because Logs
- 49:06Speaker 2: Arms racked up like a Gordida. We got Tony and
- 49:09Speaker 2: is doing something. I mean, this is gonna be an
- 49:11Speaker 2: interesting little time coming up here. Just JP, good luck
- 49:15Speaker 2: with Tony and Pete. You know I I did it
- 49:18Speaker 2: for eleven years. I think I'll be fine for one
- 49:20Speaker 2: more minutes. Yeah, that's fine. As part of the you
- 49:24Speaker 2: sure you're going to be okay? Do you want me
- 49:26Speaker 2: to stay in there with you and help you a.
- 49:28Speaker 3: Long I've traveled these waters before. I'll be your emotional
- 49:31Speaker 3: support guy.
- 49:32Speaker 2: Yeah, need right, I'll cry on your shoulder later. I
- 49:35Speaker 2: guess all right. That'll do it for Jaguars Happy Hour
- 49:38Speaker 2: coming up, though, don't go anywhere. It is JAG's HQ.
- 49:42Speaker 2: Pete Prisco and Tony Boselli to start the show. Then
- 49:46Speaker 2: we'll hear from James Gladstone as well. It's coming up
- 49:49Speaker 2: in mere moments. This has been Jaguars Happy Hour