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7-24: Seahawks training camp starts tomorrow, Evan Grant and Ian Furness · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: No from the Star Rentles sports Desk, your ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three KJRFM sports headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Happy Friday. Hopefully it's as beautiful as it
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  Speaker 2: is here in the Pacific Northwest on Friday, July twenty fourth,
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  Speaker 2: Headlands brought to you by Frostbird Corps. I choose Chill
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks veteran players. All of them are due to report
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  Speaker 2: to training camp today in Renton if they haven't already.
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  Speaker 2: First practice is tomorrow at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center
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  Speaker 2: in Renton, along with Washington. I'll be out there all
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  Speaker 2: weekend for the News Tribune, all KGr shows will be
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  Speaker 2: there Monday. It'll be the third practice at camp. Tomorrow's
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  Speaker 2: is open to the public and so is Sundays.
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  Speaker 3: Tory interesting to see the public turnout.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's going to be the whole burm goal line,
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  Speaker 2: the goal line like it was ten years ago, and
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  Speaker 2: that's waned in the last few years. But you're right, Jessman,
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  Speaker 2: this should be more people look for Tory Horton to
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  Speaker 2: perhaps be the next player to add it to the
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  Speaker 2: pup list as he reports to camp. He was not
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  Speaker 2: on the field at all during the offseason practices coming
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  Speaker 2: back from the mysteriously serious knee and shin injury in November.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see if Tory Horton's the next one on
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  Speaker 2: the puplist physically able to perform to start training camp.
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  Speaker 2: Remember the puplist guys can come back at any time
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  Speaker 2: they pass a physical Maren's begin a big four game
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  Speaker 2: series a night through Monday. It's a weird Friday through
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  Speaker 2: Monday series at the First Place, Texas Rangers five h five.
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  Speaker 2: First Bitch today with Bryce Miller on the mound for
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  Speaker 2: the MS against the Rangers All Star Mackenzie Gore Tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: Brian Wooin Nathan Volde four fifteen. Start our time on
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  Speaker 2: a Fox regional telecast Logan Gilbert and Jacob de Gram
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  Speaker 2: Sunday at eleven thirty on local TV. That is, if
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  Speaker 2: you have cable or whatever the heck do you have
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  Speaker 2: to have to get on the Mariner's TV network. George Kirby,
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  Speaker 2: Kumar Rocker Monday in the series finale at eleven thirty
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  Speaker 2: five am. Maren is half game back of the Rangers
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  Speaker 2: beginning of the four game series. Some NFL training gaps
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  Speaker 2: have already begun in Arizona the Cardinals, Gardner Minshew was
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  Speaker 2: the starting quarterback over Jacoby Brissett. Brissette and the Cardinals
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  Speaker 2: negotiatings on a new contract because Brissett, a ten year journeyman,
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  Speaker 2: wants to get paid like a starter, because he thought
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  Speaker 2: he was gonna start, and now Gardner Minshew's starting. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, Brissette's making four point nine million in base
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  Speaker 2: salary for twenty twenty six. Right now, now, I with
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  Speaker 2: the Friday show Man. Is it a beautiful day? I
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  Speaker 2: was driving with the top down on the most tank
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  Speaker 2: coming downtown.
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  Speaker 4: I love that, And I just was like, Wow, this.
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  Speaker 1: Is why we live here on days like this.
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  Speaker 2: It's about seventy degrees at ten am. After being a
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  Speaker 2: Western New York in Michigan last week, the amazing thing
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  Speaker 2: about the Pacific Northwest, for as many as much water
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  Speaker 2: as we have and mountains, there are bugs here.
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  Speaker 1: There are no mosquitos.
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  Speaker 3: No, there's a few, but not like that was one
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  Speaker 3: of the biggest things for me, having moved from the
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  Speaker 3: East Coast and having grown up there and having lifeguarded
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  Speaker 3: on the beaches.
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  Speaker 4: There forest flies, not too.
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  Speaker 3: Many mosquitos on the beach unless you're there early in
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  Speaker 3: the morning.
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  Speaker 4: But there's nothing. Mike and I went camping last weekend. Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing. Yeah, it must be the sea breeze or
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  Speaker 2: it's coming off the ocean or the sound or something.
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  Speaker 3: I just think the environment isn't bug friendly. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: there's something.
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  Speaker 2: When it's eighty degrees out and there's no bugs and
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  Speaker 2: as you say, camping.
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  Speaker 4: And barely any humidity.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, no humidity.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's probably the bug thing.
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  Speaker 2: When people get like twenty and thirty percent humidity here,
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  Speaker 2: they go crazy. But yeah, that's the other thing about
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  Speaker 2: the East Coast. Ninety percent humidity and ninety degrees. It's
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  Speaker 2: not like that out in the Pacific Northwest. So when
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  Speaker 2: it's so expensive, this is why, I mean it's idyllic. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it rains here, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm top preaching the car walking a lot of that rain.
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  Speaker 4: That's another thing.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, yes, you can be outside and go do stuff
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  Speaker 3: in the rain that we have because the majority of
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  Speaker 3: the time it's.
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  Speaker 2: More of a miss the Pacific Northwest.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't live here.
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  Speaker 2: We mow our lawns in the rain out here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: just another day that ends. And why from what October
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  Speaker 2: to May, but May or June, well sometimes July fifth
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  Speaker 2: through into October, I mean September October here is even
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  Speaker 2: crazy or nice. But yeah, this is why we live here.
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  Speaker 2: So hopefully you are enjoying and hopefully have you the
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  Speaker 2: same weather. I know it's mighty hot other places, but
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  Speaker 2: not here. You had to like this is a big more.
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  Speaker 2: It was warm this week, but not hot.
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  Speaker 3: It was it was warm, but that was like, whoa,
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  Speaker 3: there's heat warnings that I'm like, okaywell my parents' house
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  Speaker 3: it was one o six and with like a cloud
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  Speaker 3: on the house, I chuckle.
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  Speaker 2: On our station with the weather updates from Fox thirteen Seattle,
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  Speaker 2: say a sweltering eighty two degrees, it's pretty good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, my favorite two is about out here is those
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  Speaker 3: like ten PM sunsets that too.
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  Speaker 4: You get so many more hours in the day that too.
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  Speaker 3: And then sometimes when we have to wake up early,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to bed, like I'm a kid that got
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  Speaker 3: put at bed, like in bed at seven thirty when
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  Speaker 3: I was like in elementary school and hearing people play
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  Speaker 3: outside and you're like.
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  Speaker 2: Whoa, in New York you go to school till July first.
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  Speaker 2: Just about that's the latest year crazy we start late September.
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  Speaker 3: We started late September, and then we'd go basically to
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  Speaker 3: the end of June. Yeah, and then you'd have to
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  Speaker 3: add in the snow days too, because we'd have to
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  Speaker 3: tack that on to the end of the year.
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  Speaker 2: That's something else we don't have, yep too often here
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  Speaker 2: in the Pacific Northwest. So hopefully enjoying your summer wherever
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  Speaker 2: you might be. On the show today, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about what I'm going to be watching for. People
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  Speaker 2: always ask you what do you watch at the Seahawk
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  Speaker 2: training camp. Especially with the team that returned returns forty
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  Speaker 2: nine if its fifty three started, eighty six percent of
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  Speaker 2: their snaps from the Super Bowl team last year are back.
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  Speaker 2: Incredible continuity in the salary cap era in the NFL,
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  Speaker 2: usually a Super Bowl team gets paid and the guys
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  Speaker 2: just go.
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  Speaker 1: They go to the richest money.
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  Speaker 2: And really the only people have done that are the
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  Speaker 2: ones who left boy Mafe, Kenneth Walker, Kobe Bryant to
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  Speaker 2: a lesser extent, Riek Wolan. They left to get bigger
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  Speaker 2: Richard deals than they would have gotten Seattle. But that's it,
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  Speaker 2: and they've got some backfills. We'll see how the running
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  Speaker 2: back situation comes out, but I'll talk about what I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking at and the especially the early days of Camp
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  Speaker 2: Seahawks new owners, the Coasal family are and talks to
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  Speaker 2: add minority owners. We've talked about that this week. We
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  Speaker 2: talked about that with the sports law expert in New
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  Speaker 2: York City about the possibility of how many they may
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  Speaker 2: and I remember Irwin Kishner saying to us this week, Well,
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  Speaker 2: if they're going to bring in big, big fish as
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  Speaker 2: minority investors, they may only have a couple, and if
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  Speaker 2: they don't, they could have as many as fifteen or twenty. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it sounds like big fish. We'll talk about the minority
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  Speaker 2: owners that the Kosalas are add in recording the Bloomberg
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  Speaker 2: News with an exclusive yesterday, and the author of the
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  Speaker 2: Bloomberg News story was talking to Dave Softy mall Er
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  Speaker 2: and Dick Finn yesterday afternoon. You'll hear from him detailing
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  Speaker 2: wait a minute, private equity firm owning an NFL do
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  Speaker 2: we want this? He talks about that too. You'll hear
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  Speaker 2: from him on that how this Mariner's Ranger series this weekend,
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  Speaker 2: it really isn't the be all end all. You can't
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  Speaker 2: say it is. And it's only July twenty fourth, right,
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  Speaker 2: but it's big, it's pivotal, and we'll explain what the
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  Speaker 2: Rangers did a couple of weeks ago with this series
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  Speaker 2: in mind. We'll talk more at length at eleven o'clock
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  Speaker 2: about that because we're gonna go to Dallas Fort Worth
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  Speaker 2: to talk to Sean McFarlane. He's the Rangers beat writer
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  Speaker 2: for the Dallas Morning News. I'll love to give the
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  Speaker 2: newspaper beat guys a chance to tell about their work
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  Speaker 2: when I can.
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  Speaker 3: People don't understand how much work they actually do, yes,
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  Speaker 3: especially when it comes to baseball exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done that job and it is a lot.
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  Speaker 2: And nowadays people just lift their work and aggregate and
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  Speaker 2: use it. And so that's why we try to have
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  Speaker 2: I know, sometimes we have the athletic and others on,
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  Speaker 2: but I try to have newspaper people on the show
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  Speaker 2: because of the fact of just that they're the ones,
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  Speaker 2: boots on the ground, guys who are doing the daily work,
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to have one of them. The Dallas
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  Speaker 2: Morning News actually has two, Evan Grant and Sean McFarland
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  Speaker 2: two beat writers for the Rangers, and we'll talk to
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  Speaker 2: one of them, Sean McFarland eleven o'clock eleven thirty talk
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  Speaker 2: the show at eleven thirty, like we do every day.
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  Speaker 2: The first question for the text line which Seaork players
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  Speaker 2: do you want to see, learn and know more about
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  Speaker 2: in training camp. Bud Clark, as we talked about yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: has a gigantic opportunity here because of Nicky mun Worry
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  Speaker 2: being on the pup list following his arthroscopic ankle surgery
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  Speaker 2: this month. These are a couple important weeks for Bud
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  Speaker 2: Clark because he wasn't getting first team reps. He was
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  Speaker 2: with the first team defense, but was not buying large
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  Speaker 2: getting first team reps in spring practice as Ota mini camp.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying Bud Clark is Nicky Manworrey. No one
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  Speaker 2: is maybe No One in the NFL is with his
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  Speaker 2: skill set and all the positions he can play. But
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  Speaker 2: they drafted Bud Clark in the second round out of
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  Speaker 2: Texas Christian with the idea of the multiplicity from safety
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  Speaker 2: like something like Nicki and that, if you haven't figured out,
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  Speaker 2: is McDonald's mo on defense. He wants guys that don't
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  Speaker 2: play one position. Jared Ivy. I saw him at defensive
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  Speaker 2: end most of OTA's in mini camps. He was an
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  Speaker 2: outside linebacker last year, an undrafted rookie that they kept
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  Speaker 2: on the roster all year because they thought so highly
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  Speaker 2: of him. And now he's got his hand on the
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  Speaker 2: ground and doing pass rush drills with the defensive ends.
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  Speaker 2: And I asked McDonald about that during mini camp and
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  Speaker 2: he said, no, we don't put what he's I think
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  Speaker 2: the quote was don't pile someone else's land, that we
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  Speaker 2: don't farm someone else's land, meaning coaches aren't parochial and
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  Speaker 2: territorial to saying you can only have a linebacker coach
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  Speaker 2: can only coach Jared Ivy. No, the defensive line coach
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  Speaker 2: can coach him too. Nicki Monory gets coached in drills
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  Speaker 2: with the outside edge rushers as well as with the safeties,
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  Speaker 2: and we've seen him as a SAM four to three
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  Speaker 2: linebacker when they go to nickel and dime, so that
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  Speaker 2: Leonard Williams Lena Williams plays. Sometimes defensive tackles, sometimes defensive end,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes as Byron Williams, sometimes a nose tackles, sometimes a
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  Speaker 2: three technique, sometimes inside the guard, sometimes outside the guard
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  Speaker 2: is a five technique. That is the MO for Mike McDonald.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really interested to see how Bud clark multiplicity shows
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  Speaker 2: up without nick emun Worry on the field. Bud Clark
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  Speaker 2: would be if someone asked me the question, what players
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  Speaker 2: do you want to see, and you're curious to see
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  Speaker 2: what you see from Bud Clark might be number one.
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  Speaker 2: Now that Nicki man worry is down, but the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: plan is that is temporary. Of course, we talked about
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  Speaker 2: that this week, that Nicki mon Worry. The team does
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  Speaker 2: expect he will play in the opener September the ninth
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  Speaker 2: against the New England Patriots at Lumenfield the NFL kickoff game.
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  Speaker 2: And again that's because of the fact that Emon Worrey
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  Speaker 2: had the surgery in July and not after he reported
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  Speaker 2: the camp here in the last week, but before that,
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  Speaker 2: and the arthroscopic nature of the surgery, a smaller incision,
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  Speaker 2: a pencil sized camera that did the work rather than
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  Speaker 2: a very more invasive and extensive surgery. So we'll see
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  Speaker 2: four to six weeks is what I've seen some experts
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  Speaker 2: say arthroscopic ankle surgery. Sometimes the recovery time for were
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  Speaker 2: what nine weeks out from the well not not that much,
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  Speaker 2: or what August the.
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  Speaker 4: Well you're talking about three seasons four.
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  Speaker 2: Weeks, yeah, or about six weeks from the opener. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So that would be on the back end of that
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  Speaker 2: recovery time. So we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and you explained the pop situation as well, I
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  Speaker 3: think pretty well. And so let's say he goes in
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  Speaker 3: there and still hasn't played. They could take him off
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  Speaker 3: the pup and still not play him, correct, and then
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  Speaker 3: he'd be fine to return whenever, as long as it
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  Speaker 3: happened before that deadline.
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  Speaker 2: Correct. If he's on the pup list at the end
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  Speaker 2: of training camp. He is eligible to be on it
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  Speaker 2: to begin the regular season, which would mandate he misses
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  Speaker 2: the first four games, but then can then return. It's
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  Speaker 2: different than injured reserve because if you're on injured reserve
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  Speaker 2: to start training camp, your season's over. Yeah, you don't
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  Speaker 2: have the opportunity to come back. If you go on
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  Speaker 2: injured reserve to begin the regular season. Recent NFL rules
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  Speaker 2: in the last decade, you can come back be designated
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  Speaker 2: to return after missing a minimum of four weeks. Those
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  Speaker 2: are all the nuances of the list of the injuries.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, the Seahawks weren't going to put Nicky macwarrey
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  Speaker 2: on the injured reserve list because the season would have
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  Speaker 2: been over, and the pup list means he can come
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  Speaker 2: back at any time during training camp. What else I'll
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  Speaker 2: be watching in the first days writing it for the
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  Speaker 2: News Tribune here Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, third Friday.
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  Speaker 2: Rookie Bo Stevens remember him the fifth round pick from Iowa.
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  Speaker 2: He's an All American left guard. The last time he
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  Speaker 2: played right guard was as a sophomore for Kirk Prince
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  Speaker 2: in Iowa City. Well, he was at right guard in
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  Speaker 2: OTA's in mini camp. Of course, that's where Anthony Bradford starts.
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  Speaker 2: And Anthony Bradford's into the last year of his contract.
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  Speaker 2: But noticeably, Stevens was definitely on the third team because
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  Speaker 2: the second team guard behind Bradford was Christian Haynes, the
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  Speaker 2: guy who's had five chances to win the job and
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  Speaker 2: haven't won it yet. Haynes was the number two through
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  Speaker 2: the spring. I'm going to be interested to see if
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  Speaker 2: bo Stevens makes any move at all up the depth
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  Speaker 2: chart toward two, and he move it all towards suggesting
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  Speaker 2: that he would even sniff the first team offense and
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  Speaker 2: challenge Anthony Bradford, because remember when they drafted Stevens, we
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  Speaker 2: all thought, oh, maybe there's some competition for Anthony Bradford
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  Speaker 2: at right card. Bradford's in the final year of his deal,
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  Speaker 2: so the Seahawks have a decision to make there, not
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  Speaker 2: necessarily now, but they want to see how if he
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  Speaker 2: can put back to back seasons together because the coaching staff,
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  Speaker 2: despite what all of us and people on Twitter x
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  Speaker 2: and posting videos say, they like Anthony Bradford. That's what
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Bradford's coaches say. And now he's in the final
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  Speaker 2: year of his deal, they drafted an All American guard
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  Speaker 2: from Iowa, and the assumption is here's your heir. So
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  Speaker 2: I'll be watching to see how much air is that
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  Speaker 2: air into bo Stevens or if he's still on the
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  Speaker 2: back burner as a third team as he was in
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  Speaker 2: the spring. And then Tory Horton's return. I mentioned at
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  Speaker 2: the top here it would not surprise me at all
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  Speaker 2: that as Tory Horton reports to camp, presumably here in
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  Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours before the deadline today, that
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  Speaker 2: he goes also on the physically and able to perform list.
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  Speaker 2: I had the shin injury at the first of November.
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  Speaker 2: I remember the very fortuitous timing of the trade for
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  Speaker 2: Rashid Shahed, who basically replaced Horton as the punt returner,
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  Speaker 2: kick returner and wide receiver, deep threat speed guy. And
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  Speaker 2: we all know how that worked out pretty well, to
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  Speaker 2: the tune of a new fifty one million dollar contract
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  Speaker 2: for Rashid Shaheed to stay in Seattle. But the idea is,
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  Speaker 2: even when Horton's healthy, they want two of those type
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  Speaker 2: of guys.
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  Speaker 1: They want two speed guys to.
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  Speaker 2: Open everything up on the defense for Jackson Smith and
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  Speaker 2: Jig Billing, Cooper Cup and everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: A J.
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  Speaker 2: Barner, by the way, I was asked by Chuck Powle
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  Speaker 2: this morning at seven o'clock, I think A J. Barner
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  Speaker 2: could have an All Pro season in this offense.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's shooting in with momentum for sure.
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  Speaker 2: And he's right, and he's had two surgeries to correct
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  Speaker 2: what it pained him. He played with a bad ankle
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  Speaker 2: and a bad.
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  Speaker 4: Shoulder, and he's got that swag.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the.
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  Speaker 4: Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: But you know what's funny is the way he actually
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  Speaker 3: talked about the outfit that he had a faux firt
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  Speaker 3: fst on, a cowboy hat, aviator, sunglasses, and he's like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I just like I think he thrifted
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  Speaker 3: most of his outfit.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was all.
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  Speaker 2: It looked like a Macklamore video. He absolutely did not
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  Speaker 2: look like a guy from Aurora, Ohio, which is an
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  Speaker 2: hour from where I grew up. They it's not that
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  Speaker 2: type of place, in more of a blue collar type
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: of town. And there he is former Indiana and Michigan guy.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: He says he thinks he's an all pro right now.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: He thinks he's one of the best tight ends, and
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: he's not shy about saying that that's.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: Better swag than an outfit.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: True.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Now they have an offensive coordinator and Brian Flurry, who
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: was a tight ends coach for the last half dozen
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: seasons in the Kyle Shanahan Shanahan Tree offense in San Francisco.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: The tight ends are also already talking about how the
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: new OC Brian Flury, is tough on them. They think
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: unfairly tough against tight ends versus the rest of the
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: positions on offense. Well, of course he knows tight ends
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: better than any other spot. But I think the upshot
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: is going to be that Florey is going to get
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: the ball more to aj Barner. Part of the reason
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: that Barner hasn't had a seventy catch type season yet
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: one and he played hurt last year. But two, he's
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: really valuable as an inline blocker and he plays every
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: down and he's not just in there to catch passes. Arroyo,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: the rookie tight end from Miami last year. The opposite
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: Arroyo is more of a Jimmy Graham type of split
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: out wide and let him run down the field. Arroyo
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: has some proven to do it's some injuries last year
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: and he's, like McDonald has mentioned, they want to see
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: a leap from him. We've often talked to the old
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Pete Carroll truism. The largest leap between the first and
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: at an NFL player's career is between the first and
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: the second year, and that's what they're expecting out of Arroyo.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: But the point on Barner is now he's got an
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: offensive corner who used to coach tight ends, and Seahawks
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: think they've got good tight ends for sure. Remember Nick Venette,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yes they do.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks gave him.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: A tryout yesterday, no way, Yes, seven years after they
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: traded into the Pittsburgh Steelers. Wow, Nick Venette was back
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: in the Seahawks building, reportedly to get a tryout. And
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: that's interesting because they just cut Hunter bryan a veteran
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: tight end that they had signed in the off season
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: to get Brandon Johnson, the quarterback corner back from the Philadelphiagles,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: who they had waved after a rookie season last year.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: They waved Hunter Bryant, the reth veteran tight end, and
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: now they're trying out, reportedly trying out Nick Venette. Interesting
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: to see if they add him to the roster too.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Ninety man preseason roster were at the point where they
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: cut guys at the bottom of it to add guys.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: That's what you do.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: What is that date?
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Now? It's the end of August?
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, it's only one, yeah, because it used to
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: be two.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: There used to be an incremental cut the seventy five
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: five down to fifty three. Now it's just ninety to
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: fifty three. And it becomes a swap meet at the
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: end of the preseason of all those guys, thirty seven
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: guys on each team becoming available and on waivers and whatnot. So, yes,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: the deadline, I think it's August thirtieth. On top of
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: my head. It's before the Labor Day weekend this year
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: rather than during it. I've spent I spent many Labor
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Day weekends out like camping on the ocean shore or something,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: bringing my laptop and having a fine Wi Fi service
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: to I.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Was gonna pass. Did you bring one of those little
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Mai fis or something?
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: My kids are, what are we doing? Dad? It's pitch
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: to ten? No, I gotta put these Seahawks cuts online. Yeah.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: The life of a beat writer in summer yeah, but
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I got my job. It's just sometimes it's funny to
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: think all the sausages made.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: The other thing I'm looking at is Jared Ivy at
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: defensive end. I talked about it. He was there. It
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: was noticeable McDonald didn't want to cop to that. When
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I asked him about it, he acted like, well, sure,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: we're gonna play multiple ssitions. Maybe there's a competitive advantage there.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: They obviously think the league likes Jared Ivy, or they
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have kept him on the roster. They would have
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: exposed him to waivers to get him on the practice squad.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Last year, he never played a snap, yet was on
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the active roster all the time, all eighteen regular season weeks.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: So there's some plan for Jared Ivy, and right now
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: the plan looks like he might play some defensive end
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: as well as outside linebacker. I'll be watching for that.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: You can read my stories at the Neewstribune dot com
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: over the weekend to track what those developments are early
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: in training camp. Up next, off the field Seahawks news.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Bloomberg News reporting the Seahawks new owners are lining up,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: potentially minority owners. They name them too. One of them
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: was into sports news a few years ago for the
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: wrong reasons. You might have remembered this. We'll talk about
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: that next At eleven o'clock, we're going to Dallas Fort
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Worth doctor Sean McFarlane. He's a beat writer for the
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Dallas Morning News of the Texas Rangers or the huge
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: series with the Mariners that begins this afternoon, that's coming
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: up on ninety three point three KJRFM. Welcome back. I'd
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: be Friday, ninety three point three kJ RFM, Greg Bell,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Jessman McIntyre with you as we are every weekday, ten
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: am to noon. Next week, starting Monday, will be at
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Every show in fact on
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: KJR Monday Tuesday at the Virginia Mason Ethics Center. So
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to be here for a while in
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: the studios on Elliott Bay. Yeah, that'd be fun. That'd
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: be good. Just went back out there the fans. Jess
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: and I were talking about the fans. They have not
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: packed like they used to. And it's okay. It's summer.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: It's sometimes weekday afternoon. Sometimes it's hot. There's no shade.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: You have to park at rent and Landing and take
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: a bus in and pay ten dollars and pre register
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: all that to watch training camp. But we'll see how
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: many people. I would think goal line the goal line,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have fans lining the It's just different. This
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: is the second time I've covered a Super Bowl champion
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: in their training camp. The attention, hype, the excitement, all
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: of it is just different.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: It's been over a decade since they won their first one,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: and so I could see this being reminiscent of that
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: twenty fourteen training camp year after they won that first
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: I could see that actually happening.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: And what I love is I think that there's a
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: lot of respect. I saw it in the first Super
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Bowl parade that you know you have. There's exaggerated numbers,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I'm sure that came out, but hundreds of thousands of
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: people were out on the streets and no arrests, no mayhem,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: no greased up Philly poles, no nothing, and people just
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: really enjoying this team. And I think that, you know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Pete Carroll was very I wouldn't say he was bombastic,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: but allowed his players to.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Be and this team is just buttoned up.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: He lets them loose at the parade, but you didn't
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: see any of that.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Different personality player for sure. I got compared to the
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Legion of Boom.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: And definitely different from that.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I do appreciate Ernest Jones's comments when it came to
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: the criticism of Sam Darnold throughout the season, but that's
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: about as spicy as it got.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was in the post game in Inglewood when
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: we I love that. That was the day that Donald
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: through four interceptions.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: And he had Yeah, that was not his greatest game,
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: but Ernest Jones put a stamp on this is our
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: guy and you shut up.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: As Sam Donald walked off the podium there that day
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: postgame in Inglewood last November and Ernest Jones came on
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: to the podium, they passed each other to my left
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: and they hugged and it was like the precursor of
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: what Jones was about to say. Yeah, it was almost
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: like I got you by the way. Within the last hour,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the King Lebron James, the all time leading scorer in
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: the NBA forty one years old, announced that he is
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: going to the Philadelphia seventy six ers as a free
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: agent after Miami courted him after Cleveland wanted him to
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: come back to finish his career. The Acer native Nope,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: He's going to Philadelphia, announced that on Twitter in about
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: a five posting missive He said he isn't playing for
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: anything but the love of the game and wanted to
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: win a championship and he thinks he can do that
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: with the Philadelphia seventy six ers. So Lebron James himself
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: reporting that Lebron James is going to sign with the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia seventy six ers.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: And it's about you know, it's all over the Legacy outlets,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: if you will, the Legacy media. So I think Dave
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: mcmanhaman of ESPN has confirmed it as well, and he
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: calls it his last decision.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: He did say that, Yes, So Lebron James quote, I
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: believe I can help make the Philadelphie's seventy six ers
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: a championship team and I'm so excited to energize a
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: new fan base and start this incredible journey one last time. Yeah,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I was pre said when he played his last game
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: this past season, he thought he was done. He said,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I was pretty sure I played my last game. He
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: wrote this on Twitter this morning, Lebron James, I was
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: honest at that last press conference when I said it
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: needed to look at myself and decide if I still
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: love the game. I still truly love this game, and
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I have more to give, and he's going to give it.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: With the Philadelphia seventy six Ers, Joel Embiid and friends
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: in Philly.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: What helps that Jalen Brown is there too.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: That's right mistreated by the Celtics too, exactly. Yes, it
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: doesn't hurt.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it doesn't.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I know that Jalen had had some comments about Brawny
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: in the past, but I'm sure that'll go by the
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: wayside once they're playing on the same court together.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: So Bron James says he's signing with the Philadelphia just
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: seventy six ers. Back here at home, Bloomberg News reported
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: yesterday the Seahawks new owners ven Venode Nirou and Neil
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Kosler are in talks to add minority investors. Remember, we
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: talked to sports law expert on the franchise sales in
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: New York City, Irwin Kershner, about this this week, and
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: he said the Coezlers could add up to maybe fifteen
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: minority owners or maybe just a couple, depending on how
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: big of pockets these minority owners have. Well Bloomberg News
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: is naming some big pockets. Bloomberg reported the Causals are
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: talking the three private equity firms about investing in the
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: nine point six billion dollars sale of the Seahawks. They
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: include Six Street Partners from San Francisco. Of course, the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Coasals are Bay Area rooted Sixth Street Partner San Francisco,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: plus a minority bid, a joint bid from Carlisle Group
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: and the Dynasty Equity Partners, two more private equity firms.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Cozos are also talking to Mark Stevens about Seahawks Cone
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: being a co owner. Bloomberg reported Stevens owns part of
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: the NBA's Golden State Warriors. Forbes says he's worth eleven
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: point two billion dollars. Where have we heard Mark Stevens'
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: name before in sports news? Can anyone remember twenty nineteen
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: NBA Finals Wow Toronto Raptors at the Golden State Warriors.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Mark Stevens, a co owner, was on the sidelines during
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: game three and he pushed He pushed a Raptors player,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Kyle Lowry during Game three on to the court.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: He pushed him.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Not lie a co owner of a team pushing opposing players.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Team during the Championship Series. The NBA find him a
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: half million dollars for that and barred him from attending
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: games for a year. You co owned the Warriors, but
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: he couldn't even get his own building because of pushing another.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: You can't actually do that.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Maybe if he co owns the Seahawks, he'll be up
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: in a box and he won't be anywhere near the sidelines.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: I think they're a little more buttoned up than the
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: NBA when it comes to that kind of.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Thing, proximity of fans to players. Six Street Partners owned
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: stakes in the San Francisco Giants, yes, the New England Patriots,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks opponent in Week one, and Super Bowl opponent
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: 's February sixth. Street Partners also owned stakes in the
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Boston Celtics and the San Antonio Spurs in the NBA.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Carl Isle and Dynasty Equity, who would Bloomberger's reporting, is
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: considering a joint minority bid. They don't own stakes in
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: an NFL team, but Carlyle does own a stake in
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: a Seattle sports team, the rain. A couple of years ago,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: the private equity firm purchased a steak in the Seattle
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: reign of the National women's soccer dynasty owns a stake
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: in Liverpool of the English Premier League and NFL rules
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: you might we've talked about this during the sale process,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: but a couple of years ago the NFL changed its
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: rules allowing private equity firms to own up to ten
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: percent of a single NFL team. The minimum stake a
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: private equity firm can have and a team is three percent.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: And as rich More, our station manager, pointed out to
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: me on my way into the show today, three percent
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: of nine point six billion dollars is still two hundred
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: and twenty eight million dollars.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Is it two hundred and twenty eight or just twenty
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: eight eight twenty eight. I didn't do the math, that's
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: what do you say? Radio math isn't good radio?
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: He sat up on the top of my head.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: But to suffice to say that puts in perspective that
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: this is not an insignificant involvement of private equity firms.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And I hear you. I hear you right away. We
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: don't want private equity firms into the Seahawks. And there
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: is a negative connotation in society and in business right
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: now of private equity firm and what they do when
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: they take over companies. Journalism is one look at that
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: private ventures have come in and destroyed journalism, gutted it,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: stripped it for parts.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: We've watched it happen in front of our eyes.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I'm at a company that's doing the same thing in McClatchy.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: But private equity firms are here to stay in sports ownership.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: They are blank checks, their cash on the barrel to
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: owners and they could use the cozlists could use the
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: private equity money to perhaps expand Lumenfield, as we've talked about,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: close the north end, the downtown side and make it
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: a complete bowl and add to a capacity of over
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: seventy thousand. They could, I'm theorizing here they could. Private
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: equity could provide the cash. Two, let's hear it, put
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: a grass field permanently in Lumenfield and having to replace
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: it during the season, and everyone says, well, that's impossible. No,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: it's not. It's not impossible. They have grass fields in
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Seattle on the Seahawks training facility, three of them, and
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: they practice on him in December and January and the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: rain and the mud and McDonald has him out there.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: He's out there every it's supposed to rain this weekend
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: a little bit during Saturday and Sunday, Hill McDonald have
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: him outside. One because fans are going to be there,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: but two because he always has him outside when it's raining.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: He had him outside in January during the playoffs when.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: It was raining.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I remember that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Pete Carroll if it was cloudy, went into the
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: indoor facility.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was big in the IPF yet like.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: He didn't want to get his air monarchs dirty, but
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: not so with McDonald. But the point is the cash flow.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: It's straight cash. If you're going to bring in private
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: equity firms, they're going to give him two hundred million
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: dollars in cash towards the sale. But importantly they don't
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: have controlling steak, meaning a say in what goes on. Yesterday,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: the Bloomberg News reporter who broke the story about the
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: minority interest in whom the Seahawks new owners are talking to,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: he talked to Dave's Softy Maller and Dick Fane about
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: this yesterday.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: How new is this phenomenon that private equity is getting
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: involved in sports franchises and how prevalent is it in
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: the sports world it's.
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: About two years old now, and it's we've seen a
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: handful of deals. I think that I was waiting personally
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: to see what Carl Isle and Dynasty were going to do,
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: because we had already seen Sixth Street. Sixth Street bought
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: into the New England Patriots last summer. Arcdos has at
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: least three or four different stakes in the NFL. And
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: then there's Ares, who owns a piece of the Miami Dolphins.
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: They were broked that story a couple of years ago.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: But now everybody's in the dance.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: And so what owners are doing is they're having a
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: lot of conversations not only with limited partners, but with
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: private equity firms to properly value their teams and then
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: sell off to whoever they'd like.
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: So, okay, I'm going to ask this question, Randall, and
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: I'm doing it at risk of me coming across as
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: a complete ignoramus, all right, which I am.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: So it shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: So the Kasla family, before they agreed to purchase the Seahawks,
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: need to get rid of their shares and the scene
• 31:00
  Speaker 7: San Francisco forty nine ers. If the Kasla family needs
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: to dump their minority stake in the Niners. Why does
• 31:07
  Speaker 7: this private equity firm in Sixth Street? Why are they
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: allowed to own a portion of both the Patriots and
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: Sure so, the private equity firms have no controlling interest
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: in any of this, meaning they make no decisions. This
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: is often just getting money towards, whether it be liquidity
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: for an owner, whether that be a stadium project, secession planning,
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: things like that.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Whereas Kossela, he was.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: An owner of the forty nine ers, I doubt that
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: he had any say so in anything regarding the organization.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: But in order to become an NFL owner, what often
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: happens is that you want to be a limited partner
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: first so that you can understand the business. And I'm
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: sure that he knew that the Seahawks are going to
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: be put for sale someday, and that would have meant
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: sitting at the forty.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Nine ers cap table for a long time.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: It happened, I think a lot quicker than a lot
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: of fans expected. But NFL owners had been wanting this
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: for years and so it was perfect timing for him,
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: just not so great for the forty nine.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: Does a private equity firm of three percent, which is
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: not nothing. I mean, you said it doesn't have voting interest,
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: but does it have any influence at all. It's not
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: like we're talking about point zero zero zero three percent,
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: which is something like me and Softy would happen in
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: a company.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: To my knowledge, no, I have not heard any conversations
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: between ownership and private equity where you know, an owner
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: is asking for private equity advice. These are essentially checks
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: going towards a project. And you've got to remember that
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: only families can sell to private equity. It is not
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: a situation where you know, let's say that a limited
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: partner who is a non family member of the Seahawks
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: could just sell. Only family members and original ownership people
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: can can sell to private equity.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: And so that's a very limited amount of ownership.
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: And I think that private equity will see long term
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: if that changes, if they do have some control. But
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: right now, the NFL is very strict and I think
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: it'll stay that way.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: That's Randall Williams of Bloomberg News yesterday talking to Dave,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Softy Mower and Dick Fane about history in Bloomberg News yesterday,
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: talking about the minority owners the Seahawks are talking the
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Seahawks new owners, the Coastal Family, talking to about investing
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: in the nine point six billion dollar sale. Again, it
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: bears repeating three percent the minimum stake private equity must
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: take in an NFL team, up to a max of
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: ten percent. Three point three percent is two hundred and
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: eighty eight million dollars that would fund closing the stadium.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: That would fund And now I know there's a public
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: partnership with the stadium and First and Goal and the
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: civic ownership that's the stadium district down in Soto for
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: those I got it. But if they wanted to put
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: grass in, two hundred eighty eight million would do it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: If they want to put in close the north end
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: and put next to the Hawk's nest permanent seating, two
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: hundred eighty eight million would go a long way. If
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: not doing it, they want to put in some luxury seat,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: more luxury seating from more local revenue that the team
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: gets to keep for itself, two hundred and eighty eight
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: million would go a long way toward doing that as well.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: That cast, that private equity brings a straight cast that
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: they can use for projects. As you just heard Randall
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Williams say, So, that's interesting about who they're bringing on,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: at least talking about bringing on private equity and the
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: fact that it can be a media cast to do
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: projects that have nothing to do with the capital they
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: spent on the team. So we'll see where there it
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: goes again. The NFL is voting on August to twenty
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: sixth in Atlanta to approve the Seahawks sale, which is
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: expected twenty four yes votes needed for approval four nine
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: four to five on it to come a to Dodge
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Tech sign. How does private equity firms co investing into
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks fit with you? You cool with that? Like
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: to hear your opinion on that. Knowing that private equity
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: is here to stay, including in the NFL and the NBA. Next,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Amerna's Rangers series breaking down the pitching matchups and what
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: the Rangers did for this weekend way back two weeks
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: ago setting it up. This isn't a be all end all.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: It's closed. I mean, it's critical, but it's not a
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: be all end all. It's only end of July, but
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: it is pivotal. We'll talk about that next and we'll
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: talk at eleven o'clock with the Sean McFarland is the
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Rangers beat reader for the Dallas Morning News and he'll
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: give the Texas perspective on this big series. On ninety
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: three point three kJ RFM. Welcome back, have be Friday
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: to you, Happy summer Friday in the Pacific Northwest. A
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: couple of people asking for mosquito lists, camping hints and ideas.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I got a couple. We'll share that for you in
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: a talkback text.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Line at eleven thirty.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: And they're a couple. Actually they're more than a couple.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: They got to drive a little bit, but it's worth it.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was ours. It was worth it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: It was so worth it. We'll talk about that at
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: eleven thirty eleven o'clock, we're going to talk to the
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Rangers beat writer for the Dallas Morning News, Sean McFarlane,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: about this upcoming series. It's rather large. Starting today at
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: five oh five, the Mariners at the Rangers. The Mariners
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: beginning play one half game behind Texas. It's a four
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: game series, so this doesn't be all end all because
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: it's only July twenty fourth, of course, but think about
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: the swing in a four game series. To win a
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: four game series, you have to win three of the
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: four games, obviously, but if you win three of the
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: four games, that's a two game swing. So the Mariners
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: could go a game and a half up. If they
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: win this series, of course, then they got to go
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: to Dodger Stadium. But that's another batter we'll talk about
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: next week.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: That's the gorilla that's coming up, is that, and so
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: win when you can exactly.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Then the Twins come to Seattle to start a series
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: a week from today. But if they lose this series,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the Mariners it's three out of four, say, then you're
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: lose in two games, and now you're two and a
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: half back heading to Dodger Stadium. So that's the pivotal
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: nature of this. It's not crucial and critical in a sense.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: It's the season will be defined, but August might be
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: defined whether they're going to be chasing or being chased
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: by the Rangers. Now Houston is lurking out there three
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: games back. The division is so bad that you can
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: be five games six games under five hundred, yet still
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: be within three games of first place. And that's what
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: this is right now. Because the first place team, Texas
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: is fifty one and fifty one. The Mariners are one
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: game over five hundred, excuse me, one game under five hundred,
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: yet only a half game back. But because of the
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: four game series, winning it is the goal, because you
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: don't be chasing. If you're two and a half back
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: going into August, you're chasing, and you've got to make
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: up that ground. And we've seen this offense, and we've
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: seen this bullpen, and but they win the series, they'll
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: be a game and a half up. That's the swing.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Of course, a four game sweep either way and we've
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: that's a whole nother matter. But so I would say
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: it's pivotal. I think that would be a more accurate
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: word than critical. But it is a big series. It's
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: not just another weekend series against some team who they
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: got going well. Today. Bryce Miller's on the mound for
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: the Mariners against the Rangers, lone All Star Mackenzie Gore tomorrow.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Brian Wu, We've talked a long time, and a lot
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: of Seattle in the Pacific Northwest have talked a long
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: time about Brian Wu's troubles on the road, or Chris
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Crawford talking about it yesterday with Ian Ferness. Yet again, yeah,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: that has to change, and it's going to be tomorrow
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: against Nathan Valdi, who is not what he used to
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: be with either the Boston Red Sox or the Texas Rangers,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: at least not so far this year. That tomorrow game
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: is not on Mariners television. It's on Fox thirteen Seattle
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: as part of a Fox National telecast, the regional split telecast.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I think they got Dodgers and Mats or some big
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: market teams. I can't remember the feature game tomorrow as
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: the main national game, but the secondary game is Rangers
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: and Mariners, so that makes that a four to fifteen
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: start tomorrow. Then it's a Sunday morning our time on
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Mariners TV. Logan Gilbert against Jacob deGrom been injured this year.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: He's not quite the Jacob de Gram of Metz Lord,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: but he's still potentially good, and he's been good against
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Seattle in the past. And Logan Gilbert has been good
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: by and large. I know he's had cold spells as well,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: but this pitching staff by and large has been good,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: of course, and starting pitching anyway. George Kirby on Monday
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: against Kamar Rocker at eleven thirty five. It's interesting that
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: reading reports the Rangers rearranged their rotation during the All
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Star break to put it up just like this. They
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: wanted Gore, their all star, to start the first game
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: of this series against the Mariners, so they rejiggered their
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: rotation a week and a half ago.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: When the two weeks ago when as a pivotal series, right,
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: and they.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: Had two series before this, including at Atlanta. They've gone
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: two and four the Rangers have, so it's not like
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: this typical America League West, nobody's running away with it.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: But just they looked two weeks ago at this Mariners
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: series and made sure they lined it up so that
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Gore would start the first game of the series and
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: a vaud he would start the second, and de Grom
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: the third, and then Kamar Rocker will start on Monday.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: We're going to talk at eleven o'clock to Sean mccrumbin
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: about that and how unusual or surprised he was that
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: they made that decision to do that. Of course you
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: do that if you're the Rangers because of the Mariners
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: starting pitching staff and you want to be able to
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: match that. And if it's not obvious now, the idea
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: when you play the Mariners that get to their bullpen,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: get the starter, I drive up their pitch counts so
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: that the Mariners can adhere to their starting pitching rules
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: and get the guy out in the sixth or seventh
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: inning or sixth inning, so they get three innings to
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: play with the Mariners bullpen that has imploded in high
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: leverage situations this year, So that'll be the key to
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: the series. Can the Mariners starters get seven plus innings
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: so you don't have to see the likes of Michael
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Rucker in a seventh or eighth inning of a high
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: leverage situation against the Rangers this weekend? That to me
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: is the key to the series. Can these starters get
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: seven plus innings to minimize how much the bull pen
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: has to carry the game through to the ninth inning?
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: And will they let them correct there's that? Maybe relax
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: the rules for a weekend. Huh, let them pitch one.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Hundred tak the series?
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: They would six guys in your starting rotation. How about
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: one hundred and five hundred and ten pitches instead of ninety?
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Can we do that for a weekend?
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Just just four games up? Next we'll go to Dallas
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Forward talk to Sean McFarland for the Rangers side of
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: this big series. Your text and talkbacks at eleven thirty
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: on ninety three point three KJRFM Now from the Star
• 41:33
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• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Your ninety three point three KJRFM sports headlines.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Good Morning, Happy Friday. Headlines that brought to you by
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  Speaker 2: Frost Brewed, Course Light, Juice, chilp. Seahawks veterans are reporting
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: today to training camp at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: in rent and practice tomorrow. The first practice at camp
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: tomorrow afternoon just shorter one pm open to the Public's
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Sevenday's practice also open to the public Monday. All of
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: KJR will be out there broadcasting live from Seahawks training camp.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I'm looking to see maybe if Tory Horton as the
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: next player put on the physical unable to perform list
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: as camp begins. Member Pupplar guys including Nicky mun Worri
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: put on before the start of training camp can come
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: back at any time after they pass a physical to
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Mariners begin a four game series through Monday at the
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: First Place, Texas Rangers Today five oh five perst pitch
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Bryce Miller against the Rangers All Star Mackenzie Gore, Brian
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Wudemar against Nathan Valdi. A four to fifteen Fox regional telecast.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Sunday morning, eleven thirty five Seattle Time Logan Gilbert against
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Jacob de Gram. Monday, George Kirby against Kamar Rocker. Another
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: morning start eleven thirty five, Seattle Time. The Mariners are
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: one half game behind the Rangers for first place in
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: the American League West. Some NFL training camps I've already
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: begun in Arizona. Gardner Minshew, friend of Jessein mckelos, was
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: the starting quarterback over Jacoby Brissett at Cardinals camp. Brissett
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: and the Cardinals are negotiatings do on a new contract
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: because Brisset, the ten year veteran journeyman backup once its
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: starter money. He's getting four point nine million in base
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: salary now for this year at least currently. The big
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: story here in town about the sports scene is Mariners
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Rangers a little bit larger than a normal regular season series,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: so large that reportedly the Rangers rejiggered their rotation during
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: the All Star break to line up their all star
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: pitcher tonight against the Mariners in the first game of
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: the series. They wanted Mackenzie Gore to go first, and
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: so he is, and then Valdi tomorrow and the Graham
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Sunday to talk about that in this series. One of
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: the Rangers beat writers for the Dallas Morning News we're
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: pleased to have on the air Sean MacFarland from the
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Dallas Fort Worth Metterflex.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: Hello, sir, a Hey, how are we doing well? Very well?
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Let me ask you. The Rangers have kind
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: of been sneaking under the Mariners for a couple months
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: of the first half of the season, and now they're
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: in first place. They've had their own injury issues. De
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Gram hasn't been to de Gram they signed him to be.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Does it surprise you or does it speak to the
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: mediocrity of the entire division, the Rangers the where they
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: find themselves.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I think it's a bit of both. I think the
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: mediocrity of the division has allowed the Rangers to remain
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: in first place despite I think a lot of missed opportunities,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Despite the fact that they haven't had Corey Seeger for
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: more than half the season, Despite the fact that their rotation,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: which was once, you know, only a year ago, the
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: best in baseball, is now pretty much just average. I
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: think that's you know, they the only reason they're in
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: this position right now is because the American League, in
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the American League West is just I don't know, average, weird, mid.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know what words is best to describe it,
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: but it's kept this team afloat I think when I
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: think in most years, it might be a different position.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Did it strike you? First of all? Let me ask
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: is it accurate the reports I've read that the Rangers
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: did change their rotation order during the All Star break
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: with this weekend series in mind.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Is that true? I don't know how true that is. Specifically,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I think the last two or three weeks their rotation
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: has been shorthanded. They're trying to get these veterans, like
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: to gram and evolved some scheduled days off to They're
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: probably creative with this rotation to make sure that their
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: veteran horses are healthy for the second half, and that
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: they're kind of getting by with a few bullpen games
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: here and there because they're effectively down to just four
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: full time starters. So I don't know if they have
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the exact luxury to be planning in advance like this,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: but I do know that they view this as a
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: really critical series, given where they stand in the West
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: and given what they need to do before the deadline.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: So I think in that sense they want their four
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: horses to be going in this series. But I also
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: know that this rotation is a little bit patchworks right
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: now at the back end, So I don't know if
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: they have the luxury to be fully maniulating everything.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Well, it's suffice to say, though they didn't have one
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: of those bullpen days, be one of these four games
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: against the Mariners, I suppose. So let me ask you,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: we don't know much about Mackenzie Gore out here in Seattle.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: He was an All Star with the Washington Nationals last year.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: What do they can What can Mariner fans expect when
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: they're watching for tonight when he's on. What's he doing?
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: What will you know if he's on tonight?
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if he's locating that fastball up in
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the zone and that curve ball's got the right break
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: on it, I mean, he can be unbelievable. He's had
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: innings games this season where he looks like a legitimate ace,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: and then there'll be that inning that shows up in
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: the third or the fourth where all of a sudden,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the command's not there, he can't locate he's leaving fastballs
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: in the heart of the zone and next thing you know,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: a team jumps on him for three four runs. He's
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: had a few of those this year where it's you
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: look at that p r you look at that body
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: of work, and it doesn't align with the talent you'll
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: see at times tonight. I really believe that, or in
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of his starts. But man, when he when
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: he's dialed in, like you see why they traded five
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: prospects for him. I mean, it's ninety seven ninety eight
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: on the left side, one of the grossest curve balls
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: you'll see, and when he's locating it, it's impossible to hit.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: But he'll just have these innings or these you know,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: just a few set of batters where he kind of
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: loses it and that can be the difference in the game.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Mackenzie goer left handed pitcher. I don't have to remind
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Marin or fans so their troubles against left handed pitching.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: He has one hundred and twenty two strikeouts and one
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: hundred and ten innings, So yeah, high strikeout guys at
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: seven strikeouts starts here. The last few times, we're talking
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: with Sean McFarland, he's the Rangers beat writer for the
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Dallas Morning News on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline in advance
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: of the game one of the four game Big Four
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Game series between the Mariners and Rangers down on Arlington.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: You mentioned Corey Seeger. Is there a timeline on when
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: he may return and what is his ap since meant
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: to this whole.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Team the timeline, No, I mean god, we've tried to
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: ask for a more specific timeline, probably a couple dozen
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: times in the last week alone. Right now, He's gonna
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: take live batting practice this weekend, or that's the plan
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: at least, But it's all about how his lower back responds,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: mostly to running and fielding. Hitting has been fine, the
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: rotating has been mostly fine, but it's kind of that
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: bending over that's kind of gotten them as he's trying
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: to work his way back from his injury. So I
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: think they would love to have him back by the deadline.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's realistic. It is based on
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: where he's at recovery wise and kind of what we've
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: seen so far, you know, But in terms of impact,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: they've gotten really lucky that ize Heel Duran and Nikki
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Lopez have kind of stepped up in the infield and
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: given them serious production. That's when we look at them
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: being in fir his place being five hundred. The only
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: reason they are is because they've had kind of some
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: bench guys come in and produce with Corey out. But
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: but Corey being in the lineup and being healthy, it's
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: a totally different dynamic. You know, we've seen the stretches
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: he can get on where he can kind of carry
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: an offense by himself, and I think the Rangers have
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: lacked that this season. When you're gonna have various guys
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: one through nine go through slumps, but you you historically
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: have Corey there who's going to be that aircraft carrier,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: as as Skip Schumacher calls him, and they haven't had that.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I think you see that times this year where it's like, man,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: they really need that guy who can kind of slug
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: slug them out of the slump or slug them into
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: a hot stretch, and they haven't had that.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: What's the status of Josh Young, your third basement for
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: the Rangers, who's at two ninety four. I mean to
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: ninety four these days is the old three thirty or so.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: He's top twelve coverage.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that they hope he'll be ready to go tonight. Obviously,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: once we to the ballpark, he'll get evaluated and it
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: will know for sure. But it sounds like it's just
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: a light strain kind of right below his calf. They
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: didn't play him in Wednesday's finale against the White Sox.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: But the hope, as we were told, is that he
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: comes in today, checks out good, and it's good to go.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: But you know, especially soft tissue muscle injuries, that can
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: always change.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: I'm sure the idea was give him Wednesday off. You
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: have the day off Thursday, so you have two full
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: days to recover for the series.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, get that little free two day break in
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: there and let it heal and rehab. But that's the
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: perfect world, and we'll see if that comes to fruition.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: I used to be a baseball beat writer back in
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: the day twenty some years ago with the Oakland A's,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: and the relationship with a manager, a dugout manager with
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: a beat writer is critical to how you do your job.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: They hired Skip Schumacher to replace, of course, Bruce Bochi.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: This is first season.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: How is that guard? What's the dynamic guy? What's he
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: like on a day to day basis, what's the skip
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Schumacher vibe?
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Managing the Rangers? He was great, you know, even in
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: spring training we're getting to know him. He brought a
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: lot of energy. Even just in dealing with the media,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I felt like he was very honest and forthright, you know,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: as forthright as you can be in that position. You know,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: he's very respectful of our jobs and we have to
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: do and that's made it easy for us to to
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: kind of navigate what's been a weird season. And uh,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: and I think the guys like him, and I think
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: he's kind of been kind of a good fit for
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: this team with kind of the moving pieces and having
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: to navigate a bench that you really need to step
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: up with the injuries and that's kind of his forte.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: So he's been great to deal with from a from
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: a media standpoint, you know, after wins, losses, whatever it is,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: you know, he's he's been accountable, which is sort of
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: all you can ask for, you know, from our standpoint.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Right exactly, And that makes all the difference for a
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: beat writer. Sean McFarland, Dallas Morning News Rangers beat writer,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: joining us before Seattle in Texas beginning four game series
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: in Arlington. The Rangers have a similar front office situation
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: that the Mariners do. That Marriagers have Jerry Depoto as
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: their president, they have a general manager and justin Hollander.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: The Rangers have Chris Young, who'd been their general manager
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: now the president and executive of Baseball Operation, and then
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Ross fencer Maker is the general manager. By title, is
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: it Chris Young's show? And the other question I have
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: is is it are they as analytics driven as Seattle
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: and much of baseball.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Is Yeah, I would say it is. It is Chris
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: Young's show in the sense that he's the one that
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: answers to the media, the press, to the public in
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: terms of the decisions they're making. I think he has
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: the final call, you know, on a lot of these moves.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: But I know they do like to be collaborative at
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the top. They with him, Ross and you know a
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: host of other assistant gms and special advisors. Because every
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: front office has fifty special advisors to the GM now
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: and the Rangers have plenty of those two, So I
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: know they like to be collaborative with that kind of
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: core leadership group. I think they like to have a
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: balance of analytics and in the eye task what if
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: you want to call And I'm sure every every every
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: front office says that every team wants to believe that.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: I think Skip is very analytical manager, and I think
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that's the Rangers hired him knowing that. But
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: he's very big on the analytics and the numbers and
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the heat zones for pitchers and hitters, and that's, you know,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: I think drives a lot of his decisions in game.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: And I imagine that that also comes from the top
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: down too, in conversations he has with with the front
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: office and the decision makers. But uh, yeah, that's kind
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: of the Uh. I'm sure every team wants to say
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: that they're the perfect blend of old school and new school,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: but uh, that's kind of where the Rangers hope to be,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: at least.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: John McFarlane Dallas Morning News, joining us from the Dallas
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Metrofects before the Rangers and Mariners play the four game series,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: with the Mariners one half game back at Texas in
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: the American League West. You wrote this week that the
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Rangers have to play quote winning baseball at the trade
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: deadline August third years? Where are they fifty one fifty
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: in first place? But are they are they going to
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: try to add? Is some division so mediocre that they're
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: not willing to give up prospects to add to a
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: push or what do you think the Rangers are right now?
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Trade deadline wise?
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I really think this series will kind of define.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: That, right.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I hope they want to. I think after a couple
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: of years of buying around the margins at the deadline
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: having it not payoff, I really think they want to
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: feel like they're buying for a winner this year and
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: not a middling team for lack of a better terms.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: So I think this series will kind of define that.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: How do you look how do you play against effectively
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: your biggest competition at the moment in the division? You know,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: But if they're under five hundred, if they're not in
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: first place, I don't think they will be buying just
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: for the sake of sure the division is weak, the
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: al is a week. I think you can look at
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: that and maybe say, hey, maybe we have a chance
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: because of that. I think they want to be a
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: little more prudent than that and consider the future and
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: not go all in on a team that you know
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: might not be a winning team even though on paper
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: it is. I think that's kind of the situation they're
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: in right now, and I really do think this series
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: is going to tell them a lot about what this
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: team is made of and is this a team they
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: feel comfortable buying for.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Another Underscoring the pivotal nature of this weekend Seria Sean
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: McFarland from Dallas Dallas Morning News Rangers Beat right of
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: joining us on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Something McIntyre here, Sean, I had a question just because
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: you know, the bigger thing when it comes to the
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Seattle media in which we live, is we wonder how
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: you guys are viewing the Mariners. Do you look at
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: this the same way we try to break down your team?
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: And you know you're out there, you're in the media,
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: so inside the clubhouse and out what are the comments
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: when it comes to Rangers fans when it looks to
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: the Mariners.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I think it's probably very similar to how I would
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: imagine Rangers fans or to the Mariners fans hill by
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Rangers right now, which is like I think a lot
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: of people are looking at the Mariners and to some extent,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: the Astros this division, saying like, is anyone gonna take
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: this division? Like is someone going to I know the
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: ring Rangers fans have been frustrated that this is not
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: a this does not look like a winning baseball team,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: but they keep looking up and they keep remanding at
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: first place or a game out or a half game up,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: or they're right there with the Mariners. And I think
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: fans say like, well, okay, if anyone did they want
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: to win this division? Does anyone want to go to
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: the playoffs? So I think that's how Rangers fans feel
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: about their team, and I think that kind of gets
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: projected onto the Mariners as well, because it's like, I
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: don't know, you keep thinking at some point that if
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: you play average enough baseball, someone's going to pass you,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: but that just hasn't happened yet.
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: You mean me, you like, who who is going to
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: do that?
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Exactly? I really think that's the exact boat that uh,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: you know, Rangers fans are in right now. Is just
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: kind of looking around saying like I don't think we're
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: very good, but it doesn't seem like anyone wants to
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: to do anything with that what a.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Crowd's gonna be this weekend, Sean, is it a big
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: series in at the Gate? We're gonna have packed houses
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: in Arlington.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: I think it'd be pretty good. We just had the
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: the White Sox in town for a midweek series and
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: that drew pretty well. And I know White Sox are
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: in first place, and you know a lot of Chicago
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: transplants in the area, but uh, you know, fans come
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: out out when Jacob deGrom pitches and Nathan Valdi pitches.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: You know, they know those are special moments, especially in
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: a kind of a tight race right here the head
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: of the deadline. So I think between the opponent, the
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: matchups fifty being a weekend series, I think it'll be
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: a pretty good crowd out there.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Plus the Cowboys are still in Oxnard, California for the
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: next few weeks.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we get a few more days. We have to
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: worry about Dak Prescott and Jerry Jones, so will enjoy
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: while they can.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Spoken like a true DFW guys, Shawn, I knew you
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: got to get to the yard. I appreciate you joining us.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Enjoy the weekend and the games this weekend.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. Appreciate you guys, Thank you.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Sean McFarlane, Dallas Morning News. The Rangers beat writer ahead
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: of the Mariners Rangers series for first place in the
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: American League West this weekend. Interesting that he says that
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: they see themselves as potential standing pat or even sellers
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: if they don't win the series. Because if they don't
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: win the series, are you're not gonna be in first place.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: It's a half game lead. If they split a course
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: too too, it'll still be in a half game in front.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: But he says, trade deadline wise this weekend will decide that.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: That's coming up right around the corner.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think Mariner fans want the Mariners to think that, no,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: because if they lose this series, they want bye bye
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: bye bye bye instead. I don't think they'd want to
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: sell off the farm if they fall two and a
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: half games back this weekend, if they lose the series.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: So it was interesting to hear him say that it
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: was almost like this faux contention that the Rangers consider themselves.
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, and that was the exact words that he
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: used were, I think they'll be more prudent than that, right,
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Like the front office does not believe this is a
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: series winner, and I'm talking you know, championship, you know,
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: like even like even division, right, but obviously the World
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: Series is the goal.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: But he said not, it's not their year. But so
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: what do we do.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: It's it's it's very like purgatory of a division.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, good way to put it. But that's interesting because
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: we think the opposite here in Seattle. This is their
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: World Series window, go for it. Yeah, so in that sense,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: I don't see this series as season defining on whether
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: the Mariners will try to add at the deadline. I mean,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: if they lose the series, they still need a right
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: handed bat and a reliever, and if they win the series,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: they still need a right hand in bat a reliever.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: But no. Sean McFarland says the opposite in Texas, that
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: this series will define whether the Rangers are buyers and
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: at what level. He said recently, in recent summers, they've
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: been fringe buyers, not making big, big impact moves. But
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: to your point, justman, he doesn't think that there's going
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: to be a big selling or big trade of some
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: of their top prospects to go for it this year
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: because he didn't think the teams go for teams.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly that's some good bulletin board material right there.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: For the Mariners, it's this series or bust when it
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: comes to the Rangers.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: So in that sense, this series means more to the
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Mariners than it does to the Rangers.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: What is it? Mortal comment, finishing.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Exactly to it. And then you got the trash can
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: still hanging out there. Like I said, only three games back, right,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: the mediocrity again if they win five or six in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: a row.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Well, sometimes the division is so good and sometimes it's
• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: seen it in multiple leagues and yeah, but yeah, it
• 1:01:13
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• 1:01:15
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  Speaker 4: That hold up a sign g R egg.
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  Speaker 2: That would do it, That would do it? Two five
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  Speaker 2: three says which trash Anthy referring through the astros of
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: the Mariners. Well that's that's I wrote back AlCH that hurts.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, bo wait that actually was a solid burn
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  Speaker 3: from the two five to three.
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  Speaker 4: That's a solid burn.
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  Speaker 2: Yes it is, Yes it is. Yeah, Marcus, our friend
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: from the two o six is mark my words, and
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Mariners will sweep the Rangers in four games. Imagine if
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: that happened, maybe three and a half games up by
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Monday night, they could do it. I guess we can dream.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: It's actually a thing that could happen.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: That is a thing that could happen.
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  Speaker 3: I think we're tempering expectations with like a splits and
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: hope for a three to one series.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Nine to seven one says, you have a bunch of
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: teams that refuse to improve their team in the offseason,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: and this is what you get.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Meaning the American League West.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Nine set one says, this division hasn't been this bad
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: since ninety four? Is it? Maybe it's never been this bad.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: It's historically, he says, And here she says, it's pretty bad.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: And the America League Central hasn't been much better. But
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: now the White Sox are starting to move White Sox
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: and Guardians are starting to separate themselves there. But they've
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: been around five hundred at the top of that division
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: as well. The entire American League has barely had a
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: few teams about five hundred most of the season, the
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Yankees and the Rays in the American League East, and
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: that's about it. But yeah, mediocrity prevails, at least in
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: late July two five three says, this is the entire
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: problem with Jerry Depoto's regime. All the work they do
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: is on a piece of paper or spreadsheet. That's why
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: we get these cookie in game picture decisions. Kookie is
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: one way to describe it.
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  Speaker 4: It is interesting to say the least it is interesting.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: We raised the ire of some on the text line
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  Speaker 2: when we said that there are no mosquitos in the
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Pacific Northwest.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people were curious where we go to find the mosquitos?
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: Two five three said, good skeeterless camping trip ideas.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: H Yes, I went to Lake Cushman last weekend and
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: it was beautiful in Scocomish. And also you have to
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: be aware that you were outside of cell range when
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: you're there, which you can disconnect.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: If you do go into the cascades of the foot Is.
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  Speaker 2: Yet you're going to run into some mosquitos. I see
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: one I think of the three six osa and he
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: went not just in the Yakima area and got just
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: twenty mosquito bites in thirty six hours. Yes, that's possible.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: We go to the Olympic Coast rialto Beach Beach, camping
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: right on the water among the driftwood. It's about a
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: mile and a half hike from the trailhead and the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: parking area. There's a hole in the wall, a rock
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: that's shaped like an art It's called hole in the Wall.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Rialto Beach. It's so remote out there that you're not
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: beyond forks and it's so idyllic out there, the sunsets,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: watching the fog come in at night. Here I am
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: telling live radio and the twelve Flourges marking the country
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: about our favorite Kidden camping spot. It's not really hitting.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: It's well known. There are no mosquitoes because of the
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: ocean breeze. And yeah, you take dogs there. I mean,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you're supposed to take dogs there.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: It's an Olympic National Park, but we take our dog
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: there and did take our dog there when she was alive,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: and man, it's it's idyllic. Chishi Beach out on the
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Upper Northwest Tip.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: Claylock was one of my favorites that I ever visited.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: I got really lucky at the last minute someone canceled
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: and I was just on the website.
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  Speaker 4: At the gut that book's out, yes, as soon as
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: they open it.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: And I brought my dog Benson at the time when
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: he was alive, and we just the stars were unbelievable.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: And clay Lock, anyone who's been there knows how beautiful
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: There's also a lodge at Claylock Odge.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: My wife and I have been trying to get in
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: with little cabins and things, and it's all these books
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: solid rialto Beach at the time, I'm hoping I'm not
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: the vulging secrets here. But you didn't need to reserve.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: You just PLoP down.
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  Speaker 4: Along the beach in the same first Yeah.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the word disperse camping, and it's you know,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: a mile and a half. It's not bad. There are
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: also three beaches there. You can hike in a triangle
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: down along the sand. If you go further up the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: coast from rialto Beach, another option that's a little bit
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: longer of hiking. But yeah, man, the Olympic Coast, it's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: amazing for how desolately because it's far away. I get it.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a drive hike to get out there, for sure,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: but I feel.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: Like Wendy might be a pretty decent hiker.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: She's unbelievable.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: And then when you get so those sites, though, you
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: feel like you earned it. I love to hike and
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: hike out, but I just haven't had the opportunity since
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: I screwed up my knees.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife is a backcountry camper and hiker Extraordinariy's
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: she took a bunch of school kids at the top
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: of mountain near I mean like an outward bound type trip.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Kids who never even hiked before. I mean, she's she's unbelievable.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: She went She lived in Glacier Park. Her backyard was
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Glacier National Park. I used to go visit her and
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: there'd be grizzly bears in her backyard.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she if.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: She went to school at cu Boulders. She hiked all
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: the fourteen ers in Colorado. She absolutely smokes me when
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: we go hiking. I'm just through. We hiked once in
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: the North Cascades and we must have hiked front. We
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: slept in the back of her truck. We'll pick up
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: trains before we had kids, and we went hiking in
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: the North Cascades. It was up by Martha Lake. I
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: think it wasn't if I'm not mistaken. We hiked from
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: like six am sunrise until about ten pm sunset and
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: never did reach our destination. We must have hiked for
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: twenty some miles and I finally saw I'm done. My
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: fund meter is pegged. I'm sitting around right here, and
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: I parked myself right next to the trail. We did
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: the enchantments, which you can't do without a reservation unless
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: you do it all on one day.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was twenty whatever. It was sixteen hours a hike,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: and that was wild.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: One of our young studs on our sales staff actually
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: got the lottery thing. Yeah, he did the whole hike.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: He got to do the whole thing. Yeah. But anyway,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: let's see, we have a couple other things to get
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: back to.
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  Speaker 4: When it comes to sports.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: We love talking about the Pacific Northwest, but let's see,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: this division has not been that bad since nineteen ninety four.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: This is historical. I mean to date, it is historical,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: but we still got a lot of season left.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: Michael the two five three says, sweet, the Rangers then
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: get swept by the Dodgers. It's entirely possible.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think we're looking with high hopes
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to the Dodgers.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: I would like to see them steal one.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: The thing about that scenario, though, would be that you're
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: going to gain two games in the standings for each
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: win of this Ranger series, right, instead of losing a game,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: begin a game and the Dodgers series. If you lose
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: that Dodger series, the way the American League West goes.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: You may not lose any ground if you get swept
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: by the Dodgers, because the Rangers may lose three straight
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: in their next series, or the trash Cans or the
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: Angels or the Eights. That's the beauty of this series
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: this weekend is you have a direct impact on the
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: standings in every game, and if you lose three to
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers, that won't be as nearly as debilitating as
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: if you lose four to the Rangers, because there's a
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: good chance the rest of the American League West is
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: going to lose while you're losing at Dodger Stadium. Anyway,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: That's how I see it. One subject that has been
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: a constant talkback item on this text line is the
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: grass at lumen Field.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, people are passionate, more passionate than I thought they
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: would be about this subject.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of people who must be hydrologists
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: or grass experts who say you can't do it because
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: of the shallow nature of the water table right down
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: on the water at Lumenfield.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's why the seismic event happened during Marshall
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: Lynch's touchdown.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: As many people.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Came out and reported who are seismatologists and naturalists who
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: know about the area on which it was built. But
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that prevents them from grass. I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: don't know enough about the subject.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I've been told that's part of the reason that Paul
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: Allen after he remember he talked those of you that
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: were in town back then in ninety seven ninety eight,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: when they open Lumenfield and we're talking about building it,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: I should say he promised grass, or even quite promise it,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: but he said, aren't ten is to have a grass
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: field so we can have international soccer and the Seahawks
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: play on grass field at Lumenfield. And it didn't come
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: to be. And I've been told some of the reason
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: is because how low the water table is below the
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: surface of the stadium, because it's I mean, it's right
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: down next to Elliott Bay. But I've also been told
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: it's not impossible and that you can do it, and
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: whether you tray it in off trays like they do
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: in Arizona, Las Vegas, you can do grass. You can't
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: and it takes money. It takes perhaps redoing it in
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: the middle of the season, but it can be done.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: It would take an owner willing to spend money out
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: of his or her own pocket to do it, and
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: as Ian pointed out yesterday, then you're running the risk
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: of not having as many non football events there like
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: concerts and track your price, because you'd have to replace
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: the grass. Again, I would stand to say that you
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: have enough revenue coming into that stadium for a Taylor
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: Swift type concert, it's worth putting the grass back in.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: But the local ownership, the local municipality that owns the
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: stadium is not the same as the Seahawks owners that
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: would have to replace the grass.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: And there's also with anything like that, depending on how
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: they do it, an environmental impact study that will of
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: course happened, and so that could take years to actually
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: come to fruition.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: With what I've seen in multiple projects in the city.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: James from the three to six oh says, how long
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: until Brownie James Lebron's son tries to sign in Philly.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: That may already be tucking. They may already be trying
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: to make that happen.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: That could be part of the deal.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: Hey, I'll take eight million over two if I feel
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: bad for that kid, though I honestly do.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: He didn't do anything wrong.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think that kind of pressure should have
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: been on him, And I mean, how obvious was it
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 3: for that kid that he got drafted. He was a
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: G League guy like that's where and awesome to build
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: your skill within that, go for it.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: But he did not.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: He was not a draft pick guy. He was not
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: a draft pick guy at the time at which he
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: got drafted.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: And then I.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: Think Lebron wanted all the good things for his son,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: but he definitely put him back in his shadow.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: My opinion, only.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Two six says grass is a Nogo and Captain Nogo
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: for a reason that a Midwest transplant who never studied
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: Washington State history would not understand. You have to understand
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Washington State history to understand a water table. I don't
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: know the geological reality of where the stadium sits was built.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: Is the eight hundred pound gorilla. Besides all the other
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: post points Ian raised to you yesterday, well thanks to six,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: I'm aware of that. I'm also aware that money will
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: buy you anything. And if you wanted to buy a
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: grass field and bring it in on a tray like
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: they're doing laws they don't have.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: Freaking desert, I know, but we don't have the room
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: to That's true that out here, like you're talking about
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: wheeling it in from what essentially is the parking.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: Lot on the north end, that's true.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: You would you'd have to build a garage and food
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: underneath the ground, like to do in Arizona.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: An entire new structure in an already compacted area.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: That's correct.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: And the geography of the stadium is much different than
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: it is in Las Vegas, a side of a freeway
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: in Arizona and Glendale and the desert. Right, it's possible,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: it's not very feasible in what they have, but.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: I just don't see it happening.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: It's probably not going to happen. But I will tell
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: you that there are a lot of players in the
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Seahawks locker room that wished it would And no matter
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: what the statistics of the NFL pushes out, there are
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: players who are really, really, really adamant that grass would
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: really help their long term health of their legs and
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: how they feel throughout the course of the season.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would just be a major construction project.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: That would be something, wasn't it If that we tried
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: to build a tray in the north parking lot, that would.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: Be wild where it would have to go.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: I think you're right because you can't put it south well.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: You limit for t Mobile Park is right below exactly
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: unless you got rid of the Walmu Center, the Wameu Theater.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 4: Then where would where would Kid Cutty.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Go when he comes to town. That's a good show.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: By the way, Kid cutting the New York super.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Bowl Cleveland guy.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a dude.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: I like his music. That may surprise some of you listening.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: I'm an give Kid Cutty fan. Whiz Khalifa too. By
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: the way, Pittsburgh guy up next, not a Pittsburgh guy.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: Not a Whiz Khalifa guy, Ian Fornett. I don't think
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: he's a Whiz Kalifa guy. Ian Forness the Mayor and
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: Maple Valley tell us when it's on his show coming
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  Speaker 2: up next on nine three point three kJ R f M.
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  Speaker 1: Yum to start. Are you okay?
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  Speaker 10: Welcome in Greg Dell Show, Greg with d G S
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  Speaker 10: Greg Belle, who who a you know it's not even
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 10: his rookie year because he's kind of Drew lock like
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 10: he was here then he left and he came back,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 10: but he put his headsets away.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: I did to let you know if you're not on
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: the YouTube channel. I see my main seat that faces
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: the producer.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 10: You're actually awesome to do that. I do appreciate that
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 10: because I don't do that for Softy. I'm sure as
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 10: hell won't do it for Softy. I'm not gonna do
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 10: that for him. And you guys don't do cross talk
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 10: in the morning now. We Chuck's kind of too big
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 10: for that.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 4: They have one last thing.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 10: We could do one last I mean, we can all
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 10: do one last thing in the second last segment.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: Chuck doesn't like you.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 10: Apparently, apparently he didn't like anybody else after he went
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 10: Apparently he went out.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: People told me he went after me a little bit
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: today on.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: Why why do you guys have a big disagreement on
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: Dan Wilson.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, And I say, it's not Dan Wilson's fault.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 10: Most of the time you were in the massive minority.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: And I like it. I just I've I've read the
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: tee le's and what I've been told by those I
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: know in the Mariners that Jerry to Poto has a large, large,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: large say about the daily operations of the team during games.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: And then when Steve Phillips and Jim Bowden came on
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: with Jessamin and me. It reinforced the GM. When I
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: covered baseball, the GM said, Okay, here's the plan for
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: the week. Let's try to stay away from this guy
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: if this comes up, and then that they let the
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: manager manage. But Jim Bowden and Steve Phillips both told us, uh, Greg,
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  Speaker 2: when you used cover, is not like that anymore. They
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  Speaker 2: do daily meetings to tell them tonight you do this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and not just the Mariners, but that's league wide. That's
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  Speaker 2: that's the norm.
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  Speaker 10: There's a thing we had, you know, Sarah's on every Thursday,
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  Speaker 10: and on yesterday he wrote a great story in The Athletic.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know if you saw it, the cut, the
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  Speaker 10: cutting back and the scaling back of iPad use in dugouts,
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  Speaker 10: and I think there's kind of an interesting along those
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  Speaker 10: lines evolution of they were using so much data that
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  Speaker 10: since and it's really been going on for ten years,
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  Speaker 10: since twenty sixteen, and I think it was mid early
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  Speaker 10: mid June this year.
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  Speaker 2: They they really.
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  Speaker 10: They they because all those iPads are MLB issued, and
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  Speaker 10: they blocked a lot of the stuff that they were
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  Speaker 10: doing and able to do with that, and I think
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  Speaker 10: with that that put a lot more back on the
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  Speaker 10: manager's table because they were using so much data that
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  Speaker 10: it was, you know, from the GM and and when
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  Speaker 10: we say GM, from the baseball outside right, the research,
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  Speaker 10: the analytic it's there's this weird I think there's folks
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  Speaker 10: that think and I don't want to insult him, these
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  Speaker 10: intelligence but it's not just Jerry and Justin to do
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  Speaker 10: the analytics. I have no idea how big their department is.
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  Speaker 10: I can speak on the Krakens part. It's an office
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  Speaker 10: of like ten people for hockey analytics and that's eighty
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  Speaker 10: two games, yeah, right, eighty four.
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  Speaker 1: I guess now.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine how big the the department is for
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners. It's massive.
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  Speaker 10: Like there a guy used to do the website is
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  Speaker 10: on there, right, David whatever his name is. So like,
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  Speaker 10: there's a whole bunch of those guys. A lot of
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  Speaker 10: that data has been cut back. I wonder, I wonder,
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  Speaker 10: I'm wondering this out loud. I wonder if some of
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  Speaker 10: the power has gone back to the managers in the
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  Speaker 10: last month and a half that didn't exist before. Before
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  Speaker 10: they were just hitting the table, like you know, was saying,
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  Speaker 10: they just hit the tab on all the stuff that
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  Speaker 10: they were. I didn't Baseball restrict that because they saw
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  Speaker 10: an increased number. His story was interesting. There was an
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  Speaker 10: increased number of teams starting to call pitches from the dugout,
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  Speaker 10: and it's almost like reverse sign stealing. They were aieing
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  Speaker 10: themselves to death.
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  Speaker 2: Like it's what I think.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I thought Edgar was a perfect hire in
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  Speaker 3: that situation.
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  Speaker 4: These guys brains are getting fried by yeah.
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  Speaker 10: And Edgar's not that guy, so he's the opposite, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 10: but they were saying what they were doing is they
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  Speaker 10: had like they're charting. Okay, so Julio's at bat, so Texas,
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  Speaker 10: let's say it was Texas. They're like, he's gonna see
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  Speaker 10: he wants to see slider sucre. But they would AI
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  Speaker 10: like literally pitches. It was almost the opposite of of
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  Speaker 10: a of a sign stealing and sec there was no
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  Speaker 10: and then the other guys than in a dugout, he
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  Speaker 10: could glance over and say, here's what this picture throws.
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  Speaker 10: In this situation and get a sign from the dugout
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  Speaker 10: wasn't so much a sign stealing, but it was AI
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  Speaker 10: was given it to you. There's no trash can involved.
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  Speaker 10: And so there was so much data going on that.
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  Speaker 10: Baseball said, wait a second, Like you know, and it's
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  Speaker 10: odd because every other sport you watch an NFL, we're
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  Speaker 10: watching the NFL. Guys go to the sideline, doesn't matter
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  Speaker 10: what position they're holding an iPad. They're not doing this.
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  Speaker 10: There's still pictures like which are Buddy Jeremy Young used
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  Speaker 10: to have to develop there on the sideline.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's this hockey players with the idleholl bench. The
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  Speaker 2: iPads are still images. They're not allowed to watch video
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  Speaker 2: for fans to know that they're looking at what used
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  Speaker 2: to be the facts pictures, right that just happened to
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  Speaker 2: be on.
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  Speaker 10: It's easier, so it's less. This is that little hole
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  Speaker 10: they have in the wall about underneath the stadium. They're
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  Speaker 10: not developing anymore. But yeah, and like you see hockey
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  Speaker 10: players like you, guy comes off a shift, he's got
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  Speaker 10: a minute and a half before he goes back on
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  Speaker 10: and he's reaching back, grabbing and looking at the thing.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what do we you know?
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  Speaker 2: I mean which I mean so Baseball unanalyticed itself in
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  Speaker 2: mid June a little bit.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, because guys were loading stuff on there and they're
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 10: getting permission from MLB.
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  Speaker 1: You had to.
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  Speaker 10: It's like any company computer, but there was so much
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  Speaker 10: information on there that back then, back and forth, it
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  Speaker 10: was like kind of taking the human element out of
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  Speaker 10: the game and they're just using AI for all this.
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  Speaker 10: It's a fascinating story that he wrote in The Athletic
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  Speaker 10: Last a couple of weeks ago, and we talked about
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  Speaker 10: it yesterday. So I wonder, I and I'm just guessing here,
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  Speaker 10: but I wonder if some of the power has gone,
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  Speaker 10: at least in terms of in game, like in game
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 10: has gone back to the manager. Now there's other thought
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 10: that I like. I'm a big twenty four fan with
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 10: key for Sutherland. Yeah, I wonder if he's got a
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 10: little little earbud in there. Chloe, what do you think
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 10: I would disconnect that thing in a hurry?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 10: Chloe? What do you what do you see here? What's
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 10: the schematics look like for this building? Go to de Villa?
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: Nick? Devilla is really good Devilla, Let's hope. But who knows?
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  Speaker 1: What do you got? Today?
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  Speaker 2: Corbyn's last visit pre training camp, Happy training camp. Eve
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  Speaker 2: to you be right, sir, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 10: We h that's Corbyn twelve twenty today we're gonna talk
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  Speaker 10: a little bit about Jaylen Milroll. Yeah, didn't look great
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 10: during OTA's in mini camps, missing a lot of throws.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 10: We're hoping to see some progression. Maybe we will. It's
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 10: still very early year one, before year deal. He's the
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 10: developmental guy, but we'll talk about him. Kind of the
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 10: quarterback room as a whole. Drew Locke kind of the
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 10: perfect NFL backup in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 2: Get to that.
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  Speaker 10: Uh, Danny O'Neil on the one o'clock hour his week,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 10: we visit. He's pissed at Portland too, which is good.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 10: I like a pissed off Danny O'Neil. And then Rob
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 10: Brett Funnest. Yeah, Rob Neil, Rob Rangill, we'll revisit our
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 10: our rookie and maybe second year guys. He's uh, he's
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 10: forty obviously the young guy. So we'll talk to Rob
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 10: rang at two o'clock heading into the training camp.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: But Clark has a massive opportunity now that Nick Worry's
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: not gonna be.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 10: In the massive opportunity for Budd Clark. Yeah, he might
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 10: have that anyway, but now it's even more so. Tyle
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 10: cottam okay, good, but but but you go over there
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 10: for a little while.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: Kinda just got married, I see. Yeah quite a year, Yeah,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: very much so.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: And he still sounds like Mike McDonald. He does. And
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  Speaker 2: forness is up next we have his Moger from twelve
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  Speaker 2: until three, Greg Bell, Jess Macker. Thank you for listening.
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  Speaker 2: We will talk to you from the Virginia Mason Athletics
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  Speaker 2: Center on Wednesday. I'm headed out to training camp tomorrow
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