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Scheana Shay, Princess Kate, Kyle and Mauricio · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Heather Macdonald Has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: When you're on the road, when you're on the go,
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  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop is the.
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  Speaker 4: She talks Hollywood tales, her real life, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Fast to the number one tabloid real life podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Listen in, listen up.
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  Speaker 1: Woof, woof. Hannah McDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello, and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: Juicy Scoop. Oh my God, I have such a great
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  Speaker 1: show for you. I've got Sheena Shea. We recorded a
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  Speaker 1: great interview. It's so juicy, all about Vanderpump Rules, the Valley,
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  Speaker 1: everything's going on, what people are saying about her, how
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  Speaker 1: she deals with it. But first, let me just talk
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about the Kate Middleton, because the theories
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  Speaker 1: are just, there's so many. From Notre Dame's predictions- So
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  Speaker 1: I saw, I'm just going to tell you everything I saw.
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  Speaker 1: These are just theories floating around the internet. Take what
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  Speaker 1: you want from it. To get you guys up to date,
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  Speaker 1: she hasn't been seen for months. There's so many different
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  Speaker 1: things of, you know, she was rushed to the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: So how could this be a planned surgery? But is
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  Speaker 1: it plastic surgery that took too long, but then it
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  Speaker 1: would be planned and you would plan that out? No
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  Speaker 1: one's visited her. No one has seen the kids. What
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  Speaker 1: is happening? So I just want to go through some
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  Speaker 1: of the crazy ones. Talked about plastic surgery at a BBL.
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  Speaker 1: Don't think it's that. Could it be abdominal surgery that
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  Speaker 1: she had complications? Does she have a colostomy bag and
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want to be out in person? Who was the
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  Speaker 1: woman we saw in the car really? really she or
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  Speaker 1: is it somebody else? Is she with Shelly Miscavige? Is
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  Speaker 1: she on the Masked Singer? Okay, that was one that
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  Speaker 1: people are saying, maybe she's doing Masked Singer. Come on,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, not crazy. Of course she did. Well, she,
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  Speaker 1: someone did the photoshopping and then she said, oh, I
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  Speaker 1: was just playing around with Photoshop. Don't make anyone alarmed. Well,
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  Speaker 1: then do a video being like, hey guys, I never do,
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  Speaker 1: you know, selfies, but Totally fine. Obviously, something's really wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And as the days go on, it makes people even
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  Speaker 1: more nervous about it. So there were always these rumors
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  Speaker 1: that William had had an affair with this woman, Rose Hanbury,
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  Speaker 1: who was a friend, close friend. I believe one of
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  Speaker 1: her children was actually in their wedding. She's had some
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  Speaker 1: children since. And so one of the biggest rumors is
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  Speaker 1: is that she did in fact have an affair with William,
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  Speaker 1: which produced a child or two. And that this is happening.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to come out. She had the children. They
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  Speaker 1: want to be together. And this is very Camilla 2.0 situation.
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  Speaker 1: And Kate may have found out and had a nervous breakdown.
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  Speaker 1: And They are somewhat manipulating this soft launch of her
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  Speaker 1: so that people will be prepared for her to come.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing is I've also read or heard that
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  Speaker 1: if Prince William was to take the throne, they would
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  Speaker 1: have to be divorced before he did that or they
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  Speaker 1: couldn't be getting divorced while it's happening. Something about that.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of people are thinking it's around this
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  Speaker 1: other woman and if in fact their marriage is in
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  Speaker 1: a state of no repair. And what would that mean?
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  Speaker 1: And then the other one was Nostradamus who predicted all
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  Speaker 1: these things. I saw this article, don't know if it's true,
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  Speaker 1: but that he had predicted that there would be an
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  Speaker 1: unlikely person like far down– reign of who could be
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  Speaker 1: king that will take over after Charles. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: William and it's not Harry. So it would be Edward.
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  Speaker 1: So that's not Prince Andrew. That's the younger brother who's
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  Speaker 1: really led a pretty exemplatory life. So those are all
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  Speaker 1: the crazy things that are going on. And the other
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  Speaker 1: one is just they want this press for themselves to
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  Speaker 1: stay relevant. I don't know. Very, very strange. But I
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  Speaker 1: do really hope that medically... And mentally, that, of course,
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  Speaker 1: she is okay and her kids are okay. And whether
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  Speaker 1: the marriage lasts or not, we just hope that she's fine. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Meghan Markle has started a lifestyle brand. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: a weird name. It's called American Riviera Orchard. And she's
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  Speaker 1: also supposed to be doing a cooking show with Netflix. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she has chickens. She wasn't the first person
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  Speaker 1: to get chickens. I was. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: she makes jams or something. You know who also makes
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  Speaker 1: jams is on Real Housewives of Miami. Julia, who's now
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  Speaker 1: turned opera singer, is also a jam maker. And she
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  Speaker 1: wants to sell her jams for $ 30 a jar. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who's buying these jams, but whatever. So
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  Speaker 1: she's doing that. And then, of course, if it's a hit,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure she'll have a line of stuff, you know,
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  Speaker 1: probably in Target or whatever. Who knows? But she's back.
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  Speaker 1: And also her blog, Tig, is back. And of course,
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  Speaker 1: they have not given any word about Kate. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty juicy, all of it. And it might be
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  Speaker 1: in the end that Meghan and Harry are like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we told you so. It was fucking weird over there.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why we got the hell out. We tried
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  Speaker 1: to tell you how awful they were. We tried to
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  Speaker 1: tell you. And you all thought that I manipulated the
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  Speaker 1: situation and took poor Harry away from his brother. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know what to think. I go back and forth,
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  Speaker 1: back and forth, like I do so many things. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: warn and warn all podcasters out there and people like me.
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned this maybe on my Patreon. I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: tell it again. I am getting these emails from several
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  Speaker 1: different podcasters and celebrities that have big shows in which
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  Speaker 1: they send it to my email. And it's a scam.
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  Speaker 1: It is not from the person. But the last one
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  Speaker 1: I got was from Joe Rogan. And it was funny
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  Speaker 1: because it came the day that we talked about Joe
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  Speaker 1: Rogan with Natasha and Moshe. And I said, why doesn't
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  Speaker 1: Joe Rogan ever ask me to be on his podcast?
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  Speaker 1: And then I get this bogus email, this fake email
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  Speaker 1: saying that I should come on the show for $ 2, 000.
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  Speaker 1: And I just want to make sure that anybody that's
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  Speaker 1: getting an email like this from me It's not from me.
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  Speaker 1: And anybody that's receiving them, it's a scam. Do not
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  Speaker 1: engage with these people. Don't set a call. Don't go
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  Speaker 1: on your Facebook. It's all a scam. And I believe
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  Speaker 1: John Christ, who's a comedian podcaster, he did fall for it.
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  Speaker 1: And his Facebook was compromised and he felt stupid. And
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  Speaker 1: so it's still going on. I can't believe they're still
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  Speaker 1: doing this, but I need to share that. Also, this
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  Speaker 1: was super juicy. This girl went on TikTok and they...
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  Speaker 1: Some of the comments were like, you need to find
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  Speaker 1: Kate Middleton because she did such a great thing. She goes, hi,
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  Speaker 1: I just sat on a plane next to this guy.
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  Speaker 1: If this is your husband, his name is spelled Brian
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  Speaker 1: with a Y. She totally describes him down to his watch,
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  Speaker 1: the color of his wedding ring in which she took
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  Speaker 1: a photo of his hand, described his backpack, his shoes, everything,
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  Speaker 1: the flight he was on, where he was going. that
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  Speaker 1: he probably FaceTimed you and your young child after. But
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  Speaker 1: the minute he got on the plane, he opened up
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  Speaker 1: his phone and he set up a dating app account,
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  Speaker 1: a Tinder account for the city he was going in.
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  Speaker 1: And he even had an album on his phone saying
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  Speaker 1: dating app photos just for when he goes into town,
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  Speaker 1: he can grab them and start a profile. And I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's going... As of today, it had probably many hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of thousands views. But wow, guys, do not do, or girls,
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  Speaker 1: if you plan on cheating on your spouse, do not
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  Speaker 1: do it on the plane with someone sitting next to you,
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  Speaker 1: especially a chick like this. Because for sure, this wife
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  Speaker 1: has gotten this info. For sure, somebody... has sent this
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  Speaker 1: to her if she didn't find it herself. So good
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  Speaker 1: luck to her. Also, Joy Behar chimed in on the
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  Speaker 1: Sharon Stone story that we talked about. And she's like
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  Speaker 1: saying that, you know, oh, she's just doing all this
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  Speaker 1: to be relevant again. Well, the story was in her book.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody is on podcasts and doing interviews, talking about their lives.
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  Speaker 1: She has a long career. And it's just such an
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  Speaker 1: annoying thing to say, oh, you're just trying to be relevant. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's my life. It's my life. And I'm telling the story.
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  Speaker 1: Billy Baldwin said it's not true that she actually made
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  Speaker 1: sexual advances to him and he turned her down. So
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  Speaker 1: he's annoyed that she's talking about it. But again, Sharon,
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  Speaker 1: come on Juicy Scoop. Let's talk a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion part three. So
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: Kathy comes out and just then Sutton has like a
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  Speaker 1: weird shaking, almost like feigning type of situation. And definitely
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  Speaker 1: Kathy was not very sympathetic to it. She was like, Oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: she's probably afraid of me. I was about to go
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  Speaker 1: after her. I don't know what she was going to
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  Speaker 1: go after her about, but she leaves and Garcelle goes
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  Speaker 1: with her. And then it's really just Kyle and her
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  Speaker 1: talking about their relationship. And they talk about Mo, that
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  Speaker 1: he left her husband's agency to start his own. And
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  Speaker 1: she was fine with that. They were fine with that.
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  Speaker 1: But she didn't want him– they didn't want him poaching
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  Speaker 1: clients or agents. And apparently she said they did. And
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  Speaker 1: then Kyle was like, I don't want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And I really feel like– she's like, there were just
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  Speaker 1: some things. There were just some things with Mauricio that
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  Speaker 1: I knew and that I would put up with. And
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  Speaker 1: I just couldn't put up with it anymore. And it
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  Speaker 1: was just stuff that I saw that I couldn't unsee.
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  Speaker 1: And I watched that and then– I went to bed
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  Speaker 1: and I went on my phone and I see that
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  Speaker 1: Mauricio is doing TikTok dances to Beyonce. And he's doing
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  Speaker 1: a TikTok dance with his friend in the snow. And
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  Speaker 1: then he's doing another– I couldn't believe it was his TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: And then he's doing another TikTok of him working out
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  Speaker 1: and he's doing jump rope. And I'm like, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's what she couldn't unsee is that Mauricio is doing
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  Speaker 1: TikTok dances. And she's like, why– I think that was
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  Speaker 1: enough for her to be like, I can't go on.
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: So they get into the Morgan Wade thing. There were
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  Speaker 1: some discrepancies in her story. She said, we were hanging
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  Speaker 1: out stagecoach together. And then she said, if I come
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  Speaker 1: and support you for your event, for your friend who passed,
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  Speaker 1: you have to be in my video. But for the
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  Speaker 1: sleuths out there, we filmed this video before the rumors
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  Speaker 1: came out. But then you see them talk on the
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  Speaker 1: set saying, we're doing this video, we're pretending to be
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  Speaker 1: in a lesbian relationship because the rumors are out. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I've talked about this more than anything this year. Are
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  Speaker 1: they scissoring or not? Is she doing lickety splits with
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  Speaker 1: Morgan Wade or not? I now say yes. And I
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  Speaker 1: am waiting for the cover of people, of them sitting
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  Speaker 1: down with their legs entwined, And saying, yep, we're in love.
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  Speaker 1: Something like that with the way they look at each other,
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  Speaker 1: the way they talk to each other. And then she said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm open to whatever. And Kathy was like,
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  Speaker 1: I just want my sister to be happy. Now, if
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  Speaker 1: I had a friend who people were assuming I was
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  Speaker 1: having a romantic relationship and I wasn't, I would be like,
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  Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. Like, she's not at all sexually interested in me.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, we're friends. Other people are like, no, it's
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  Speaker 1: not happening, but she likes the PR. Now I'm going
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  Speaker 1: back to say 100% they are romantically involved. And the
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  Speaker 1: marriage broke up because she couldn't put up with the
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  Speaker 1: flirting or the cheating or whatever anymore. And I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was really interesting. She goes, and we've had these
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  Speaker 1: fights before. But then with all the travel that we
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  Speaker 1: both did, I thought we'd come back together. And then
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  Speaker 1: we didn't. And I think in that interim is when
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  Speaker 1: she got really close to Morgan. And there is an
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  Speaker 1: anatomy of a murder, an anatomy of a marriage that's
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  Speaker 1: 28 years long. So I thought it was really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Some people thought it was boring. I can't get enough
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  Speaker 1: of it. And then we see Mauricio talk about why
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  Speaker 1: he left Hilton and Highland, Paris Hilton's dad's company, and
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  Speaker 1: start his own on his new show on Netflix. And
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  Speaker 1: Paris chimed in. At first, I did not know if
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  Speaker 1: this was actually Paris, but according to everybody else, it is.
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  Speaker 1: Paris writes, my father is a consummate gentleman and has
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  Speaker 1: always taken the higher road. He would never speak negatively
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  Speaker 1: about his family, especially in the press. Frankly, we are
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  Speaker 1: all sick of him using the Hilton name Every chance
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  Speaker 1: he gets to plug his lame show, it is enough already.
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  Speaker 1: That's what Paris says. So that's hot. Yeah, so I
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  Speaker 1: think that the family is gathering around Kyle. I think
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  Speaker 1: they're glad to get rid of him. And she had
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  Speaker 1: no problem saying that mean thing. However, their cousins are
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  Speaker 1: on the show. So I don't know. But they're also
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  Speaker 1: masters of social media and reality TV. But it is
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  Speaker 1: a fun show. situation to follow and watch. All right,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, remember to go to heathermcdonald.net for Patreon for
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  Speaker 1: more shows, more live shows, adding those all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I will be in Palm Beach next. That's April 5th
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  Speaker 1: and 6th. You only go to heathermcdonald.net to get those tickets.
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  Speaker 1: All right, and now for my interview. I have returned
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  Speaker 1: Juicy Scooper, mother, wife, singer, podcaster, reality star of Vanderpump Rules,
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  Speaker 1: the one and only Sheena Shea. Good as gold.
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  Speaker 4: Hi.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. Thanks for having me. It's been a minute.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I'm glad when you were like, okay, let's
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  Speaker 1: get me back on.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm glad that we could make this work because
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  Speaker 1: you're a busy girl.
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  Speaker 3: So busy.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I look the way I look today. I've
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  Speaker 2: just been running around nonstop.
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  Speaker 1: You look very cute. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: So stop.
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  Speaker 1: So much is going on in your life.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You just bought another house. And so you're in the
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  Speaker 1: process of moving.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And are you excited about also being a valet girl
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  Speaker 1: with everyone else? I am.
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  Speaker 2: I think once I get settled in the house and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not living in boxes where I'm like, do I
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  Speaker 2: have a matching outfit to wear my.
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  Speaker 3: Shoes, wear my toiletries?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think I will be very excited. It's
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  Speaker 2: a great location. I can walk to Lala's house, and
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  Speaker 2: that's just really exciting, too.
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  Speaker 1: It's so great to see your friendship and then the girls. Now,
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  Speaker 1: is your daughter three yet? She'll be three next month. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we just saw each other at Ocean's Party. And, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it really is fun to watch all the little girls
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  Speaker 1: and Stassi's daughter Hartford. I know. It's just like, it's really,
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  Speaker 1: it's really fun and how close you guys got. And
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  Speaker 1: I even saw one mini Vanderpump situation happened between Ocean
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  Speaker 1: and Summer. Wait, what? There was some, it was a
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  Speaker 1: heated moment.
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  Speaker 3: Did they get into it?
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  Speaker 1: It was just like, it was bubbles. It was a
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  Speaker 1: bubble gum, the bubble gun.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And Ocean was doing it right at Summer. And she
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  Speaker 1: was just like, girl, it's not my thing. Rather you
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  Speaker 1: not shoot it right at my face. And Ocean's like, sorry, like,
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  Speaker 1: it's my party. But then just like you guys, they
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  Speaker 1: got over it pretty quickly. Yeah. They got over it
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  Speaker 1: pretty quickly. So I think we're okay.
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  Speaker 2: Even this morning, we were at Sky Zone because today
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  Speaker 2: is Ocean's actual birthday. Okay. So we took the two
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  Speaker 2: of them, and Ocean did, like, a boop to Summer.
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  Speaker 2: And then Summer's like, Mom, she hit me. And then
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  Speaker 2: Lola's like, did you hit her? Or did you try
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  Speaker 2: to boop? She goes, I tried to boop. And she
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  Speaker 2: was like, okay, well, let's just not boop people in
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  Speaker 2: the face. But it was, like, just a little, like, meh.
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  Speaker 2: But they fight like sisters. They love like sisters. And
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  Speaker 2: I just love that they actually will get to grow
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  Speaker 2: up together and go to school together.
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  Speaker 1: Because you guys also have your Palm Springs house. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We share a wall there. You what?
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  Speaker 2: Like we share a wall.
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  Speaker 1: Right. It's right next door. I bet. And it's so great.
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  Speaker 1: And I love it that you guys are all there.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 4: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
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  Speaker 4: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
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  Speaker 4: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
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  Speaker 4: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
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  Speaker 4: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
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  Speaker 4: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
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  Speaker 4: in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or free
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  Speaker 4: click and collect.
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  Speaker 1: So easy.
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  Speaker 4: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.
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  Speaker 6: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
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  Speaker 6: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
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  Speaker 6: have faced tremendous setbacks, and yet somehow have found a
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  Speaker 6: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
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  Speaker 2: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
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  Speaker 1: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
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  Speaker 1: filed against me.
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  Speaker 3: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: what would you do if it was given back?
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: He said, I have a work dad.
• 19:13
  Speaker 6: I need a home dad.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Everybody in life encounters hardships.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: What defines them is not those hard moments that they
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: go through.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: It's about what happens next. I decided to risk it all.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I realized how valuable every day was.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: You're worth the work.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: So we're, what episode are we on? on? Like five?
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know because I've seen up to 14 at
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: this point.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what episode just aired? I think it was seven.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Okay. We saw you guys in Lake Tahoe and you
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: had a tough weekend. Because you took a photo with
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: a fan, which, by the way, that fan must be
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: loving life.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Right? I mean, her face is all over the show.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: So I've always said that you guys are always so nice.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: And I tell my juicy skippers, go up to the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Vanderpump cast especially. They will never not say no to
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a photo. So you guys are out filming, doing your thing,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: and you take a photo with this girl and you
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: put your arm around and Tom Sandoval is next to you.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: And so during– so then the next morning or that night,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: it gets posted. And what were some of the things
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: that you were getting that were so upsetting from– online.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Gosh, I mean, just every insult in the book. I'm
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: not a girl's girl. I'm disloyal. I'm a flip flopper.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Of course, I'm friends with him again. Like all of
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: this based on a photo that.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: We all hopped in. And usually I have.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: My phone in my hand or I have my string ting,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: as you see. And I put my arm just like
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: as I'm holding my phone. It wasn't like my hand
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: was even wrapped around him. I just had my phone
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: behind me and I was just standing and I tend
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: to tilt my head.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: We all know, thank you for putting me on my
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: good side.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I have a good side that I think.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: So that's why we're friends because your good side is
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: not my good side.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: It works out perfectly.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: But in the photo, it's like the way I tilted
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: my head, like I just.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: That's just how I take photos.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: And right as we got in, I was like, oh, okay, smile.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: And it'll be over soon.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: And Yeah.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: And then it just got picked up by like page
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: six and all of these articles are being written. All
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: of these comments are coming in. And it was just overwhelming.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, first of all, I haven't even had
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: a conversation with him. And now the entire world is
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: jumping to, of course, she's friends with him again.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Let's not even.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: So and at that point, we see that you are
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: struggling because What year did you begin filming? Like, you
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: were the spinoff. The Sheena Shea, and you weren't Shea
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: at the time, story was the only reason this show
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: had legs and could go from Vanderpump Rules, I mean,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills right over where they
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: walk into the next set.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so seamless.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Is because there was a connection between you and Brandi
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Glanville and her ex-husband that you had dated. And so
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: what year was that?
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: 2011 is when we shot our pilot and it all started.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: And then the first season was filmed 2012. We were
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: on air January 2013.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: So do you ever, is it crazy for you to
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: think about the fact that you have been on this
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: show for 12, 13 years? Like a huge, it's a
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: third of your life. How old are you?
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: I'm 38, almost 39 now.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Wow, you look so young. I thought you were like 33.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: But that's a huge part of your life.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: And has there ever been a year that you were like,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I just can't take it anymore and I want off
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: this train?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I feel like there have been several years where you
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: feel that way at a certain point, but then it
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: passes and then you're ready to do it again.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Like, Season six, for example, the Rob season, when that
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: relationship ended and I moved to Vegas, it's like, how
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: could I go back? But then after living my life
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: in Vegas, doing that show, I'm like, oh, I'm ready
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to go back.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: And then it just, you know.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: And the show you did in Vegas was the, how
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to teach a, what was it?
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Sex Tips for Straight Women from a Gay Man.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: It was an off-Broadway comedy and it was so fun.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: And you were kind of like one of the first comedians.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Bravo reality people to do a stage show. Was I?
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Now that I think about it, that was before Luann.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: That was before we knew who Erika Jayne was. She
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: might have been performing at the time, but we didn't
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: know her to be a housewife.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Before everybody started to do their variations of BravoCon on
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: their own. Okay, let's get into it. So with Rob,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: you met this guy. And it was the classic line.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: You have so many, like, viral funny moments over the years.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Are we calling them funny?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think they're funny. I think they're funny, okay?
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: And it was, he put up a TV in seven minutes.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: And the amount of people that still, like, now time
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: their husband when they bring home a flat screen and
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: all of this. And so you guys break up. And then...
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: He came on my show, remember? And I called you.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: That's right, you called me.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: I was living in Vegas.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I remember exactly where I was when I got that
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: phone call.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I think he's still really hot
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: for you. And you're like, I don't care. I am single.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I am ready to mingle. I want nothing. And I
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, well, I just wanted to let you know. Yeah, no,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: I was kind of like a full single mingle Vegas
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: mode Sheena then. Yeah, yeah.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Chip and Dale's show this night, Magic Mike that night,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Thunder from Down Under on the weekend.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Now, were you just living there on your own? Did
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: it ever get lonely, like in the day sometimes?
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: I actually have family there.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah, I have cousins, I have aunts, uncles, and
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I have a friend group out there already. I've been
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: going there my whole life. So Vegas has always kind
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: of been a second home.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Do you think you're going to end up in Vegas
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: at one point?
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I think the next property I buy will probably be
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: in the state of Nevada.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes. I talked to your husband about that. And
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: I think that's a great idea.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: And I think it's great that Lisa has so many,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: you know, cocktail bar, the little restaurant people. I've not
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: heard one person ever disappointed in going.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I love it. I think it's great. You go, you
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: have your one great cocktail, you have your you know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: little app and then you're off to another thing.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: It's perfect.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's such a good model and so fun.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: And then to have other things that you can go
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: and out and see. So let's get into the show
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: because we've got some shit because you are missing your
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: friendship with Tom and you are feeling bad in the
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: last episode. And you reveal that when you were not
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: doing well financially during COVID, all of a sudden he
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: sent you whatever. You don't have to say the amount,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: but a few thousand dollars.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: And that really meant a lot to you. Well, now
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: my question is, did you, when you started to do
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: well in Sandoval, did you send them, then mow the
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: money back?
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you after.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, okay.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: But you guys have this long friendship, and you said,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: when everybody was a bitch to me and we were
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: on the red carpet, he was the one that was nice.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: So can I have a little sympathy that I have
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: lost a really close friend and confidant as well, which
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I think is so compelling and interesting, right? And also
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you're on a show. Right. And you're not only in
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a friend group, but you're on a show. So it's like,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you know, and as time goes on, like even the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: first couple episodes, you guys, you could see that there was,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: even though it had only been a few months, you
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: guys were having a couple moments where you're able to
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: sort of chuckle about it. And like it's starting to,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you know. Comedy is tragedy plus time. It's starting to get, like, funny.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: There's some funny things about it, you know, of all
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: that you guys have been through. But Katie was not
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: having it. And Katie, in her thing, referencing you, is like,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: in her opinion, he never really cared about you or
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: the friendship. Be a good friend to Ariana and move
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the fuck along.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: It's easy for Katie to say when she's hated Tom
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Sandoval since the day she met him. She didn't have
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: a 15-year friendship with him.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: He was the only person in this group who had
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: my back when the show started and consistently has had
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: my back. So that's where it was tough for me
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: because I don't agree with what he did whatsoever. I
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: stand by everything I said on my couch at the
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: end of last season. He could have gone around this
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: so many other ways.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: But with time, you know, you can... heal wounds.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: You can start to move past certain traumas. And that's
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: what I was trying to do is, you know, yes,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: there were things that he said that were hurtful to me.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: There are things Katie has said, Lala, Stassi, Kristen, the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: list goes on. Something everyone on the show has said
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: that's been hurtful to me. But he was the one
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: who consistently had my back throughout all of this. So
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: that's what I was just trying to express is like,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: it's not just black and white here for me. I
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: do not agree with what he did to Ariana. And
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: as the season plays out, you'll see more conversations between
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: him and I where I really am standing up for
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: her and trying to explain like it wasn't just the affair.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: It's the things you've said and done after. And it
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: goes deeper than just cheating. So I needed to put
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: a little perspective in his brain with that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: So then Lala is walking. with Ariana and she's like, listen,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Sheena is really getting a lot of hate for this
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: stupid photo. Can you say something like, you know, and
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I understand and I had this happen on such a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: small level where someone's like, you know, this friend of
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: yours is getting unlawful hate from, but in my opinion,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: in my situation, it wasn't that many. And I thought
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: by then bringing it up two days later on the podcast,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: it would give these losers the attention that they wanted.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, just ignore it. Let a
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: new show happen and blah, blah, blah. But the other
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: people still feel I was wrong and that I didn't
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: do that. So I'm like, okay. So I understood when
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Lala was like, Can you just, you know, say like, hey,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Ariana Stans, stand down, whatever. But then I understood her
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: side where she's like, at this point, everything I say,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: every comment, every, if I like something, if I write
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: under someone's thing, if I, you know, it's going to
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: become a headline. So I think her perspective was, I
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: could relate to, of just like, you know, let me
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: not say anything. And then she did eventually say something.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: And I thought that was really good. Yeah. That she
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: was just like, look, you know, she's a sweet girl.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: But one thing she said, she goes, I know that,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you know, without saying the words, but it sounded to
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: me like she thinks that you're kind of because you
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: are such a like a sweet person and you are
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a nice girl, a good friend. People have said that
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: for years that she's like she he'll get back in
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and ingratiate himself through Sheena. and then I'll be the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: one in the end on the outs. And I thought
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: that was like a really, like, I don't know, that's
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: a possibility. I can see why she would think that.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: She's never going to be on the outs unless she
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: puts herself there. None of us are ever going to
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: push her out of this group. We all love Ariana.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I felt like when you're filming a show with someone,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: you kind of have to understand this isn't only... Sheena's
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: struggling with someone who, you know, has had her back
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: for so long and they had a long friendship. It's
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: also a cast member and we have a job to do.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: So that was very hard to navigate this season where
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I just want to have her back, but I also
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: want to do my job. And it's going to be
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: a situation where he's there and I need to have
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: a conversation with him. And in those conversations that I
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: don't want to say I was forced to have, but maybe,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: you know, wouldn't have happened for.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Years had we not been filming.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: There were things that I started to see where I'm like, okay,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: you are understanding my perspective.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Tom was understanding.
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: It was like when I said things to him in
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: a certain way, he realized, oh, it's not just about
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: the affair.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: It's not just about this. It was everything he did after.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: It was weaponizing her mental health and saying, Well, I
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: couldn't break up with her because she was going to
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: do X, Y and Z.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: It was so.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Many other things that I'm like, you have to understand
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: that it's not just the affair. And as I've had
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: these conversations with him, I did see the light bulb
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: click on where he was like, oh, I fucked up
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: more than just this. So as I'm having those moments.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: And she's out here saying, well, he's never given me
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: a real apology. Like, I deserve this and that. And
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you're right.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: You do.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: So then I'm trying to advocate for her to him
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: and be like, but you owe her this and that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: And it's like, I was in the middle and I'm
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: in the middle of two friends, but I'm also doing
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: my job. And it made it extremely difficult because now
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: I'm looking disloyal when I'm trying to make Her wish
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: come true. I think that she wants a genuine apology,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: but then she doesn't want to talk to him. So
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: how are you going to get the apology?
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is very sticky for all those reasons. Going
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: back to what she said, being that I've experienced something similar,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: it's that Hey, go be friends. You know, find out
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: for yourself. Go be friends with your friends. But then
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: there's an event. And now those people are all going
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: to go to his event. And certainly she's not going
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to go. And now there's a moment happening between everybody
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and your ex that you're not a part. And then
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: what can happen, TV show or not, is that then
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: those relationships do get weaker. And it's very unfortunate when
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a couple– Mostly when a couple breaks up, especially what
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I've had, like a heterosexual couple, it really isn't that hard.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: We choose the woman. That's the end of it, you know?
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And it's like I've never had, Peter and I have
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: never had a couple where he is as close to
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: the guy or closer as I am close to the
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: woman or closer. Or they break up and we both
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: agree that the guy was weird And we don't want
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: to fuck with him. And, you know, like so we've
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: so it is very your situation TV show or not
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: is very unique because it was a friend group in
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: which you guys had friendships before they got together, you know,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: versus like if Peter and I were to meet a
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: couple through school. And five years later, they get divorced.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: And we're like, oh, what a bummer. We had all
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: these fun dinners, but okay.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't a Lala and Randall situation. Randall, easy
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: to cut out, you know?
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I knew him because of her. That was not my
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: friend of many years before this.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and when she asked me one time, we were talking,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: and I would talk to him, too, because, but I
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: did meet him through her, and they came on the
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: show and everything, and I thought they were this fun couple, and...
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, remember they were supposed to get married in April?
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's got to think. Sometimes I say, as
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: awful as COVID was, if COVID didn't happen, she would
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: be married.
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: She might not have ocean. I wouldn't have summer. So
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: many things.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah. So, like, she might have gotten married and
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: been like, oh, this could wait or now I have
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: to go through a divorce or whatever. Yeah. But when
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: they went through all their stuff, When it first happened,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: he was, like, texting me because I didn't believe it
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: at first. So I was kind of like, wait a minute.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: These fans are getting involved. It's a photo across the street.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Who knows? And da-da-da. And then one time we were
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: talking on the phone and we were talking about the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: latest thing that had come out about how it was
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: the chocolate diamond that he got made into. And then
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: she was– and I was like, oh, my God. And
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: she goes, you know, I have to ask you. I
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: remember it was before this. She's like, I have to
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: ask you, Heather. Like, you got to decide. Like, what?
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I already decided. I'm not going to continue anything with
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: him if I– I mean, I'm not actively picketing his home,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to hang out, talk to him
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: on the phone with him, whatever. And so that's a
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: good point because then when people would bring up, you know, oh,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: but Lala, you asked everyone not to be friends with him,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the guys or whatnot. Don't go play pickleball with him, whatever.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: There is that.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: It is different.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: But it is different.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: It is different.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: And he's not staying on the cast. Right. Yeah.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: And also, you know, if Vanderpump Rules ended season 10.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: There was no season 11. I don't think I would
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: have had as many conversations with Tom Sandoval over the past,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: you know, eight months as I have.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: We've been on a show filming for 10 weeks together
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: at BravoCon at, you know, different events and whatnot where
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: it's like none of this probably crossover would have happened
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: had we not gotten picked up for another season. So
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: I think things would have panned out very differently if
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: we weren't forced in situations together.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Right. So Ariana, is it Ariana or Ariana?
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: It's either.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, good. It's either.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, it's either.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Either, but it's Rachel Raquel. No, just kidding. Okay, so
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I just didn't want to say it wrong because I
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: hear it both ways.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: She said her mom said it one way growing up.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Her dad said it another.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: So she's okay.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Either way.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, I just didn't want to be disrespectful to her. Yeah.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: So what I loved, what you displayed. is why I
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: think you are an incredible reality star.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: And also, I think Jax Taylor is too, for this
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: exact same reason.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: You compare me to Jax?
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: No, but you are.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: Who you are. The whole point of reality TV is
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: that you're being real. You're being authentic. It's not scripted.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: You're not pretending to be something you're not. The Sheena
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: that we saw, you know, 13 years ago is still
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the Sheena today. Yes, you know, you've matured and you
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: have better makeup and better outfits and all of that.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Still cringe.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: But you're still who you are. And I feel like that's,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I have that too. Like, but in it, what makes,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I think, you so likable to me, at least, is
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: being authentic. And I've been that way too in this business.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: And being like, fuck, I'm happy for my friend, but
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be honest, I'm a little jealous. I'm
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: a little jealous. I thought it was my turn. I'm
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: so glad it's her. I'm glad it's not someone else,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: not from our show. But I really thought this was
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: going to be my year. And I loved that you
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: were honest about it. And the people being like, oh,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: she's a pick me girl, whatever. When you're in this business,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: you go up. You would, for me, go on auditions.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: And one time it was a panel show and they
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: wanted a diverse panel. So when I saw my friend
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: who was also white, And we were like, oh, there's
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: no way, even though they're picking five people, there's no
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: way the two of us are gonna get it. What
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: a bummer because we're so funny together. And then you're like, oh,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: but you still want it, but if your friend gets it,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: and it's, someone who's not in Hollywood can't understand what
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: this is.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: This is an acting auditioning thing where you can be
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: really good friends, but still.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: I kind of want to elaborate on this a little more, too,
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: because you didn't see the full conversations, obviously. You can't
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: see every minute of every conversation. But the reason why
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: it stung a little extra was because the previous season
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: when Charli D'Amelio won, I'm very close with her family.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I was at the finale. Teresa, Shangela, Gabby, like I
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: had so many friends on that season. So we're at
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: the party after, as they always do on the CBS lot.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: And I had two producers and a costume designer come
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: up to me that night. And they're like, oh, my God,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: how have you not been on this show yet? They're like,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: where's Dina Katz? We need to find Dina. We got
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: to introduce you like you need to do next.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: She's a casting executive.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: She had already left with Charlie to go do Good
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Morning America on the flight. And so they were just like, OK,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: we're putting your name in. And for months, I kept
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: in touch with these people. We're friends on Instagram. I
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: saw them at different D'Amelio parties and whatnot. And they're like,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: you're right up there. So I was like, maybe I
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: should just start taking some dance classes.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Which is totally smart, but it's totally smart to do.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I had another friend who was And that's what she did, too.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: And I would do it, too.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: So I really did.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: And I would get shoes made for my fucked up
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: feet so that I wouldn't have cancer.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: I got the shoes.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Start practicing in the character shoes.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I actually started taking some dance classes with Raquel because
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: she was like, oh, I want to get back into dance.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: And I was just like, you know, just in case,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: just get a little technique down. And it was something
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: that also it's like a workout. Dancing is so much fun.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I got a call from my producer friend that first
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: week in March and he was like, I just want
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: to say like, you know, we're starting to put names
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: out there and yours was the first one that I
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: was going to recommend. But after everything that's happened, I'm
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: pretty sure they're going to reach out to Ariana.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: And I was just like.
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Yay.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was like, I'm so, so happy for her.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: But also it was just like. And you also see
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the executive decision of why that was going to bring
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: more eyes to the show.
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't just I thought because of Scandival, I'm
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: going to be on Dancing with the Stars. And I've
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: seen that chatter online. I'm like, no, for months, producers
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: were like, all right, next season, next season.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Totally an obvious choice, really. But I thought her answer.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: In everything I've seen her do, I think she's answered
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: so gracefully and so respectfully of everybody's reactions to her
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: and her success and any kind of digs that could
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: be interpreted as digs. I think she sees where it's
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: coming from. So I think she's come off great. And
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: what she said was like, I think this will only
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: bring more eyes to have people from our show and hopefully,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: you know, Sheena will do. I have some insight that
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I need to share with you.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: And we talked about, you guys talked about blind items
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: and like Reddits and stuff regarding jacks and things. And
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: there is a item that came to me. I don't
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: know how to tell you this. It's that a newer
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: cast member of Vanderpump, they're seriously looking at her. And
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I have a photo of her. And so I just
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: want to prepare you. But they're saying this is the
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: new person. It's Summer Moon.
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: She's only been on the cast for three years.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: And they said she's a natural.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: They said her dad's a stage dad and he's going
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: to get her on stage. No, I'm just kidding.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: There's no competition.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Did you think I had any scoop?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Did you think I had any scoop?
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: You got the juicy scoop.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I was just like going through your photos and I
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: saw her little ballet outfit and I was like, oh
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: my God, what if Summer Moon gets on Dancing with
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the Stars before she does?
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: One day.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: But I totally saw that whole thing. And also that
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: you were just having a rough week. When you were
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: laying in the bed in, like, Tahoe.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: It was just a weird fucking weekend.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: And I never get sick. Maybe once every other year
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I actually am under the weather. Yeah.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: And I woke up that day and I was like, oh, no, no, no.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: It was like I was already so drained emotionally that
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: then physically it just– Right.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: The icing on the cake. And the other thing someone
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: wanted me to ask you about was the real, like,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: postpartum OCD thing that happens. Mm-hmm. And– being nervous as
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: a mom and like thinking the worst. And how are
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: you doing with all of that? Because you've got you
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: shared that part as well, which I thought was really interesting.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll see more of that I'm happy about later
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: this season. It's something that is a battle every day.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I didn't for one second question if I was going
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: to talk about it this season. I feel like in
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: my postpartum journey, season nine, I definitely talked about a
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: lot of these things. But We were trying to figure out,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: you know, how to make a show after a pandemic.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: And yeah, there were other things, I guess, that were
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: more important to tell. But now that I'm able to
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: talk about it and share it on the show, not
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: just my podcast has been so incredible because I've had
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: so many women reach out like, oh, my God, me, too.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: And it's gotten better. I got on Zoloft for a bit.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: And then before I just committed to an SSRI, I
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: wanted to try- What's SSRI? Like just that type of
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: prescription medication. And I wanted to try some more natural ways,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: maybe microdose mushrooms, see if that does wonders like people say.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: And I didn't really feel the same relief as I
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: had from the Zoloft.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: And so I went and saw Dr.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Amen, who is, incredible. Brock and I both got brain
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: scans and he saw an OCD brain and an ADHD brain.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: And through his supplement plan.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Wait, do you have both, you mean? No, Brock is
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: the ADHD.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: OCD, ADHD.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Got it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: What a fun combo.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Right? But he put us on a supplement plan to
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: help balance our brain chemistry. And it really has helped
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: us as a couple so much, but also... the intrusive thoughts,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: when they peek in, instantly my brain is like, that's
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: not real. In a more sense where I'm not watching
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: the entire thing play out and then just like thinking
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: about it over and over. It's like.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: So you would think of some, like the worst case
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: scenario and then you can't get it to remove, you
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: can't remove those thoughts.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, about your daughter and about like.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Something happening to her. And I think also I've been
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: doing a lot of EMDR work.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I've been doing exposure therapy and.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: I think even with that, it's helped me in situations
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: where now things like I literally watched her fall off
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: the couch and break her arm. But I stayed calm.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: I got her to the ER and we did it.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: And it was like one of my biggest fears. But
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I was like, OK, she's OK. You're OK. And so
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's. getting better it's easier to manage
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: it's not as debilitating as it was in the beginning
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: but you.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Know I only found out about this like a year
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: ago which I think is makes so much sense in
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: when I look at how Peter and I would worry
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: about our kids differently and because I carried my own
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: biological child I've you probably know this, but I did
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: not know this, that their cells are still in my head. Yes.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: How wild is that? And I'm like, this explains everything.
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: This is mother's intuition. This is why I worry, you know,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: about things differently than Peter. And it doesn't mean that
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Peter's not a great parent, but I've said this to
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: my friends. Like I even had a friend going, you know,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: who's divorced and their kid is older and she's like,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just can't believe that my ex isn't
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: doing this and this and spending this and this time.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: And I go, but he's a man. And she's like,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: what do you mean? I go, it doesn't mean he's
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: a bad dad. He's just not a mom. He's just
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: not a mom. And our like thing, you know, like
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I was doing my schedule for my standup and stuff
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: and I like I had to move a whole thing
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: around because Brandon chose a school and I'm like, I
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: have to be there to move him in.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I literally wouldn't move. I would not miss
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: that for $ 1 million. And Peter's like, really for a
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: million dollars? I'm like, yeah, seriously.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: For $ 1 million. I'm like, I wouldn't.
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: So don't offer me anything on that University of Oregon
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: move-in because I'm like, there's just certain things where I'm like,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: oh my God. And it's part of that. And I
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: think sometimes Your partner, if he's a man, can't totally
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: understand without it being explained even in a more medical
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: way of like.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: That's what worries me about if we do have another,
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: we have to do a surrogate because I got help
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: syndrome and almost died in labor. My doctor's like, look,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: if you're going to be not ready until you're 40,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I do not recommend you carrying. And that's the thing
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: I worry about is am I going to have the
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: same bond, the same intuitions, the same feelings with a
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: child that I don't carry. I know for so many people,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: you know, it's not an option to carry. And that's
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: where I'm at now, too. But after having that experience,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like do I even want to do that.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Well Khloe Kardashian was extremely honest I know and I
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: really appreciated she carried true and she didn't carry her
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: son and I I loved that that yeah sometimes it's
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: not as easy as oh my god I have the
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: means yeah sometimes it's just not you know And speaking
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: of your husband, Brock, so one thing I thought was
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: really interesting that I saw is that a podcast host,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Nick Vial, who I know and think he does a
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: great job, but I didn't appreciate that he, for whatever reason,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: was talking about Vanderpump or whatever, and talked about you
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: and Brock, and he called Brock... Like on the payroll?
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: What did he say?
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: So Charlie did his podcast and referred to Brock as
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: a payroll husband.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, Charlie, who used to be on Vanderpump. Okay. Yeah.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: And then Nick continued it on the podcast that he
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: did with Katie and Dana and asked like, oh, well,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: what do you think about the payroll husband or whatever
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: he said?
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: And that really pissed me off, too, because I experienced
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: those types of jokes and comments. And this was, you know,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: 10 years ago when I was on Chelsea Lately. And
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: I would just, like, let it go because, ha-ha, we're
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: a comedy show, we're all comics, whatever. And Peter always
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: said it didn't bother him. But, I mean, they would
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: literally say these kind of things, like, on the roundtable.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: And my husband always had a career at even when
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: I was at Chelsea lately, he was still doing being
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: a mortgage broker. But he was the one picking up
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the kids from school and all of that. And thank
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: God he didn't have a job that thank God he
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: wasn't a lawyer that was like traveling around the country
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: to go to court. But that would have been more respected.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: That would have been, they would have been happier with
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: the fact that I had like a livid nanny than
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: the dad who is doing his thing his own way.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Which was like, oh, there's no bath, but we went
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: swimming and then I sprayed him with a hose after.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, whatever, they're alive. What am I going to say?
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: He's the stay-at-home dad. Like it was just things like that.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: And it all obviously has worked out. But so I
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: was like good for you guys being like, that's fucked,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: you know? And, and, and so then with the group,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: I was the only mom at the time. And then
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the guys started having kids with their wives. And I'm like,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and I still never said this because I'm not a
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: mean person, but I wanted to be like, oh, we're
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: going to talk about that your wives that don't work
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: and they're home with their kids. Like what losers?
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Why aren't, why aren't they medical doctors?
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Why aren't like, I know there's so many double standards
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: and it's like, I would rather Summer be home with
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: her dad than a nanny.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Rather than my mom.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: You know, I would rather her be with one of
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: her actual parents.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: And if I'm working, I love that he is as
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: available as he's been over the past two years.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: Because.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: I think that's the best. And he's such a good dad.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: And anyone who follows him on social media sees like
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: the reels he does. You know, if like there's been
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: two times I wasn't able to take her to dance
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: class because I was in, I think, New York for
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Watch What Happens Live and had something else. I was
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: filming something fun with Katie recently.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: And I couldn't go to her dance class.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: But he does his little videos with her, getting her ready.
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: And it's just he's such.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: A good dad.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean, she's so lucky to have.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But did you ever get an apology or anything?
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: He's doubled down.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: He just posted another reel I saw of me like
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: two days ago, which I did have to go and
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: comment on because someone was like, keep Sheena's name out
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: of your mouth. I said, but then how would he
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: stay relevant? What else would he talk about if it's
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: not me?
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Well, it is interesting, you know, as someone who's been
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: covering all the Bravo stuff for years and My show
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: is going on eight and a half years. Sorry, but
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: I don't want to brag. It's one of the oldest ones.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: And the reason I've always been so involved with the shows,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Housewives and whatnot, is because I am a woman and
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I've been through all these things. And the shows are
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: mostly based on women's experiences. And it's fine that straight
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: men are getting into this space. But it's a little
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: bit like... Come on. You know, it's like I'm not
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: talking about, you know, itchy balls. Right. I can't experience that.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Also, he's someone who surrounds himself with women in like
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: their early 20s.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. And his wife. Well, I don't know. They're engaged.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: And congrats on their baby. But was she a podcasting
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: host before she met him? No, they had great chemistry.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: And that's what's great about podcasting is that it's, you know.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: it's a conversation. So if you have great chemistry with
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: your spouse or your girlfriend or whatever, and then, yeah,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: now they're, now they have their own thing going, but
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: it's like, it's not like, you know, she was an
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: accredited podcaster and like, you know, she's famous for, because
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: of him, which is great.
• 54:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: So then if you have that situation, why are you
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: trying to be ever naked about somebody else? And this is,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: and when reality life, you're being yourself, you're being your life.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: And thank God you have A partner who wants to participate.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of Real Housewives husbands that really don't.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: And those shows, I think, suffer some, you know, that
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: we don't get to see the dynamic of the relationship.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'm glad that we cleared that up. Okay.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: So then we get to Lala. Lala and Katie got
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: into it.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: And... It was good. It was, they both had good points.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: And it was like, don't you talk to me like that.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: And she's like, don't you talk to me about like that.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: You know, and it's like, and Lala is so funny
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: because she'll tell me, she's like, oh, I went la-la
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: on her. I went full-blown la-la on her ass. Like,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: it does come out. Even though she's this, you know,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: pregnant mama and she can be funny, it still comes
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: out and it's not an act. No, it is not.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: And so I thought that, Was pretty juicy.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: That they had their moment about it. And so anyway,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: it's all good. Now, what, okay, so now this came out.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think this is a funny tribute.
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Only because you ever put this together, I don't even,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine how many hours it took.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is a similar thing.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Have you seen this?
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: No, but I saw the one that Nick did.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: And he took all of these old scenes in it
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: and stuff, and I'm like, Of course, there are scenes
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: about me.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: That's not.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: For 13 years. Obviously.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: That wasn't what I meant.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: I was just meaning I'm never allowed to be like
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: emotionally affected by something that goes against the grain.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Right. Okay. So this girl, Christina, but maybe at Coca-Coco
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: put it together. I don't know. I found it on TikTok.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I would love it if someone
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: took all my moments together and got into it in
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: editing bay because like I can't even... And, of course,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of moments, like little chunks of you
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: saying the same type of thing or it's not about me,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: but it is about me. Why can't it be about me?
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: But it's not to make it about me. So I
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: thought it was, like, totally funny.
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. And so it's always been
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: about Sheena. Well, you're a reality star, so... Yeah. But, again,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I like the honesty. I think that's what makes you
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: you and why you just keep going.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think with when I said that, that
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: time specifically, obviously I was completely emotionally drained from that
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: day and the meditation and just everything, having to film
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: with him and being put in this position. Yeah. But
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: from the time Scandival broke, obviously I just was Team Ariana.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: But I was.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: genuinely affected by this from Tom and Raquel. James was
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: genuinely affected by this. Jesse Montana. So many people in
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: this group were personally affected, but we weren't allowed to
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: be because it was only about Ariana.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: And so what I was trying.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: To articulate was just like, But can I just have
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: a second where people can understand that like I was
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: affected too.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: James, Jesse, like the list goes.
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: On and on.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: There were other casualties.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Ariana's brother, Jeremy, was very affected by this. This was
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: someone who he considered a brother for the majority of
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: his adult life. Like there are so many people who
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: outside of, yes, they didn't get cheated on by Tom Sandoval,
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: were affected. And that's all I was trying to say.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: But nothing I ever say comes out the right way. Right.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Right. So Rachel Raquel has her podcast. And I listened
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: the other day.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: How do you do that to yourself?
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Because I was coming from the Palm Springs area to
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: go to the ocean party.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: And I was like, let me just hear, just to
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: see if there's something. And it's so interesting because she
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: said something that I thought she thought would be a diss,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: but I didn't think it was. And it was, she said, Well,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Tom Sandoval taught me this. It's pretty like shocking or
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: something like that, that don't have a conversation off camera.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: If you have something to say, save it for camera
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: while you're filming, because that's what makes a better reality show.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's great. That's real.
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Duh.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Like I was like that. I mean, I know from
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Megan King Edmonds, like Megan King Edmonds, that's her from
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Real Housewives of OC.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Before she and her husband got divorced because she did
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: the ultimate mistake and had a threesome with somebody and
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: then he went with now married to the girl that
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: she invited. Yeah. Cautionary tale. Anyway, so she, one time
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: I like interviewed her and it was still while they
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: were together and I'm like, yeah, but I'm like, you know, Megan,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: like he is so crotchety on camera. Like he so
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: wants nothing to do with you. And she goes, that's
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: because I've already come home, told him the whole story
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: that happened on Girls Trip, and then we'd have to
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: reenact it So he'd already heard the story before. And
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: most men are like, you know, not dying to hear
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: a story twice.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: So then he comes off crotchety, but he probably was anyway.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, this is great advice. Like, we
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: don't want to know that you reenacted it. But it's
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: almost like she was like, so, I mean, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what? That's good advice. Like, that is
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: good advice for being authentic.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: And that was one of the first things I told
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Brock when he joined the show. I said, there are
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: going to be times when I come home, we would
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: normally have a conversation. But if we're filming together the
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: next day, we'll have that conversation then. I don't want
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: to have to retell you. I want your real reaction.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: I don't want you to sleep on it, have the
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: night to think about what. It's just like, no, you
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: have those conversations when there's cameras in your face.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: That's your job.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was the other thing Nick accused you of.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, rehearsing scenes with Brock. I heard that too.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I didn't think so at all.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: No, because we literally, the opposite. I don't talk to
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: him until there's cameras.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Right. And then you were doing the bikini bathing through
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: shopping thing.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was rehearsed. Like, come on.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: And that one I totally related to, too. You're just like, no, like,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. Why are we saying
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: that here? And, you know, I get how he's like
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: where he's coming from, too. But I thought that was
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: really real. But I also thought his apology was really nice.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: And I thought that was good to see, too.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: It's like we're a real couple going through real issues,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: raising a kid with slightly different parenting styles and just
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: trying to navigate that.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: And that was something that You.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Know, I was OK to put out there on the
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: show because I do think it's relatable.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Everything is not perfect.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: And I feel like I've been guilty of that in
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: my past relationships where I try to paint a perfect,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: pretty picture to the world. Right. And behind closed doors,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: it's not always been perfect. And after the Rob relationship
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: and the whole Adam of it all. But, you know,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: I said I was never the Apple Watch.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, that was Max.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, Adam was the penguin.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, you got a penguin for him named Adam.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: It was a charitable donation to the Aquarium of the Pacific.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Was it a gay penguin? Do you know that penguins
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: are a lot of them are gay?
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: I did hear that.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And they go and get eggs from like their
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: their female friend who's like, I don't need to raise
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: this kid, but you and your gay boyfriend can have it.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: And then they go take the egg. Kind of beautiful.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: I just figured since you were living in West Hollywood
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: at the time, I love that you chose a penguin.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was his favorite animal. And I was just like,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: how can I get this guy back at the Long
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Beach Aquarium?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Have you ever gone to visit him?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: Where you have to go and take summer and ocean
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: and go visit Pink.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: I know, right?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Out of and see what he's up to.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Did you also do a star or no? Was that
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: somebody else?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: No, Brock got a star for me.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Yes.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then recently for our anniversary, he got me
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: the coordinates of the place we had our first kiss
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: put on this like really cool plaque that like lights
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: up and it was really unique and special.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: He's very thoughtful with the gifts. But I did say when,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: you know, after season eight pandemic, I have a baby.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I agreed to come back to the show. Season nine,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: I said, we're putting it all out there. If we fight,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: we fight. We're not saving our fights for when we
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: get home. If it ends up on camera, then we
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: deal with the backlash, you know, if there is any
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: once it airs.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: But I wasn't going to try and be like, everything's
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: perfect and then go home and be like.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, good.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: I was just thinking about your wedding. Do you feel,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: I remember there, you know, you had Rachel Markell as
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: a bridesmaid. You did do a funny photo and like
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: put Lala's head on her or whatever. Is there any
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: part of you, and maybe you're over it now, that
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: was like, wow, now the memory is a little bit tainted?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Or are you okay with that?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Because the relationship was going on behind everyone's backs at
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: that time between her and Sandoval and you didn't know.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had no idea. And at the time, they
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: were two of my closest friends. So there was no
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: doubt that I wasn't going to have them in my wedding.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: I don't have any regrets.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, I wish Lala was also a part of it,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: but I felt like her and I were still working
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: up to where we are now. Like today, I mean,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: she would be standing up there right next to me.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: You know, it's just taken some time to rebuild that
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: friendship and trust.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: But at the time, the people up there with me
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: were those who were closest in my life.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Good, good. Okay, this is from my thing. So they said,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: this is from my Patreon, because I talked a little
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: bit on my Patreon about this. They said, I love
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: your take on Vanderpump. It's so refreshing. Sheena gets so
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: much hate in general and has since sees episode one.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: But what you said is so true. I'm glad that
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: the years of fans dragging her hasn't changed how honest
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: she is. I saw a comment on Instagram that said
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: anyone who can't understand Sheena being happy but also jealous
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: has never auditioned for a part. that their friend got.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: People have always said these storylines are fake. And personally,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: that's how I feel about Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: But Sheena is always just who she is. And like
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: or not, I appreciate that it makes the show dynamic
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: and relatable, which is why I like reality TV.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, call me cringe, whatever. I do think
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: I'm often misunderstood. But I always try to be me.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: I try to be true to who I am. And
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: if I live in the gray at times and people
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: disagree with that, I can go to sleep at night
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: knowing that I made the best decisions that felt right
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: for me and to make me the best version of
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: myself to have inner peace for my daughter.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Was there a moment in the last 13 years where
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: you were able, I mean, we saw you get upset
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: in Lake Tahoe for all those reasons, but Where you
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: kind of made the switch of like, okay, I can't
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: read this stuff or I have to do something therapeutic
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: where I don't let the haters make me question myself.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, when season six was airing and I was
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: living in Vegas for five months at least, maybe a
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: little longer, I completely deleted Instagram and Twitter from my phone.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: If I had a funny thought, I would text my
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: sister and I would tell her to tweet it for me.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I had Snapchat because no one could respond to me
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: on Snapchat. So I would still post there. So I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: was doing something. I would save my video, send it
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: to my sister. She would post it on Instagram story.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: And she was like, you got to stop using the
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Snapchat filters. Instagram's like getting better with theirs. And it's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: like obvious you're not using the Instagram filters. So for
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: those like five, six months, I just completely disconnected. I
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: started my podcast during that time. And I just stayed
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: out of the comments because I felt like, mentally, that
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: was what I needed to be in the best headspace
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: because it does. It gets so toxic and negative. And,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: you know, people can only take so much. Even last week,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: the last two weeks, actually, haven't really looked at anything.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: I did get sent the Nick Viall reel. And I
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: just had to just leave a little comment because... Why not?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: But I didn't look at anything else that was on there.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: It was just like one of the first ones was like,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: keep her name out of your mouth. And I was like,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: but then what would you have to talk about?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like it. Okay, real quick. Joe, we see Joe,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: who at the time is friends with benefits or maybe
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: just friends with Tom Schwartz. And okay, first of all,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: the hair, she's a hairdresser. I mean, look, I'm not,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: I don't mean to rip her apart. She agreed to
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: be on the show. But I saw the funniest- thing
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: that someone said on TikTok. And I, so I, it's
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: not my idea, but I thought it was brilliant. And
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: the girl goes, I feel like Joe is what Gen
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Zers do when they make fun of millennials. Like, I
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: like do these faces and she's like, like, it was so,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, what? Okay. What, give me your opinion
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: on her. What's going on? Yeah.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: It's, It's been very interesting to watch and because I'm
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: now so many episodes ahead just prepping for the reunion,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: I have seen many more scenes of her. She's an
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: interesting person.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Does she act like that when the cameras are not there? Yes,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: she's always like that. Oh, okay.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not like a shtick. Like, she's always like
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: that and has been for years.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: And was she ever featured on the show before, really? No.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: No, and I think it was a big betrayal to
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Kristen after, you know, she was let go from the
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: show for Joe, her best friend.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, they were best friends.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were inseparable, like together four times a week.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: And after all that happened with Kristen, Joe was just like,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: fuck that show. And, you know, like so hardcore had
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: her back and then moves in with Schwartz and then
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: starts filming.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: And it was a huge. betrayal for Kristen.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: So they don't talk anymore. I saw Kristen and Jax
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: and Brittany, you briefly, at the Valley premiere. And Janet,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: who is now one of the cast members, I've talked
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: to her throughout the years. And I was like, how... yeah,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: I know you knew the group, but like, how did
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: you even know the group? And she's like, I had
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: just moved here and I went to the Mondrian and
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: there was some event and you were there and she
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: walked right up to you. And you, she said in
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: her words, you guys got drunk, had the best time,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: exchanged numbers. And then you called her and was like,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: isn't tomorrow your birthday? And she's like, yeah. And she's like,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: what are you doing? And she goes, well, nothing. Like
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: I just moved here. I don't know anybody. I'm not
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: going to party. And you're like, And she said, you said,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: get ready at 9 a.m. And you picked her up
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: and you took her to Disneyland and you made her
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: wear It's My Birthday pin.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I just need to let the world know what a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: nice story that is. Thanks. Yeah.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: She kind of goes into a little more of that
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: on my podcast next week. I don't know when this
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: one will come out in comparison. But, yeah, we just
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: hit it off right away. And I knew she was
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: going through it.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: A divorce.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: There were similarities with our ex-husbands and the reasons why
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: we wanted out. And once she moved to L.A., I
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: just clicked with her right away. And, yeah, I knew
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: her birthday was coming up. And I'm like, you can't
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: spend your birthday alone.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: Like, I've got a season pass.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: We'll get you a ticket. Let's go to Disneyland. Put
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: on your Mickey ears and your It's My Birthday pin.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: And we had the best day. And I think that
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: just kicked off our friendship.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Now that she has her own show and is on
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: her own show, is there ever a time where you
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: worry— That maybe not her, but other friends that were
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: not on the show or now on the show that
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: it would ever. I mean, granted, her show is not
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: the same as yours, but who knows if there'll ever
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: just be a crossover with you in the Valley. Like,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I would love it. I'll be
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: honest because I'm honest. I don't know if I would
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: love it if my friend that was always just a
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: friend that came to everything is now gone. on a
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: red carpet and everything too. I'd be happy for her
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: because she seems like she's nice.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: But I feel a little worried in this business. Like
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: if we were to ever, if you were ever to
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: be on the Valley years down the road, would that
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: ever get weird?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: No, Janet and I have already had a weird fallout
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: in our friendship during the pandemic. And we made our
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: way back from that. And I don't really ever see
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: that happening again. I think we both understand each other
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: way better. And sometimes, Friends, you know, Lala and I,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: we had the same thing happen and we are better
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: than ever. I think sometimes it takes something like that
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: for you to realize who is really important in your
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: life and who you want in your life long term.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: And sometimes those breaks make you stronger as friends. So
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: I don't worry about that with her. I'm so happy
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: for her. I think she is hilarious. Her husband is amazing.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: He is the voice of reason. The fans are just
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: going to fall in love with him. And I'm happy
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: that she has this opportunity because when she was on
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: Vanderpump with me, but then she started becoming friends with Dana.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: And then there was like the, oh, I'm going to
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: have a threesome with Dana and Max and things that
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: were just.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: Rubbing me the wrong way.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: And I was like, she didn't. But it just started
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: to get a little weird. And then we went into
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: a pandemic shortly after season eight and just kind of
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: went our separate ways for a bit.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: And.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Since we've come back together, it's like we can look
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: back and laugh at some.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Of these things.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think she's gonna be really great on
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: this show.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: And I'm really happy for her.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: And I think the only way I would maybe have
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: the like, is if I was unemployed, you know, if
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not on my own show, and then here's someone
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: I brought on the show doing her own thing, and
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: I'm out of a job. But, you know, I hope
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: Vanderpump continues for a while. I hope we continue to
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: do crossovers. As you saw in the premiere, you'll see
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: more of that in the upcoming episodes. And who knows
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: where the future for either show goes, but I think
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: it's very easy to integrate them. And every single person
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: on the Valley is genuinely a friend of mine who
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: I talk to on a regular basis.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: Yes. And that's what I love and why I think
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: in some of the years of Vanderpump, where it felt
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: not totally authentic is because they did go the route
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: of casting versus like truly the only people that really
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: work and end up on the show is if they
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: end up dating one of you guys. I mean, that
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: is how Rachel Raquel got on. That is how, well, actually.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: That's a James.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Or if they're your nanny. Oh, right. We're going to
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: see that, right? You'll see a lot more of that.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: We're going to see the nanny with, yeah, like what?
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: That's going to be juicy. We see it in the trailer.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 5: Uh-huh.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: Katie making out with your female nanny.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: She also went on a date with Schwartz.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Amazing. So that is all juicy and I love it.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: All right. I know you have to go. So tell
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: everybody where they can catch everything.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: Everything is just at Sheena, S-C-H-E-A-N-A.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: I have new music on Spotify and Apple Music with
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: the 27s. We have even more coming out, a full
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: EP coming I'm excited to get some more shows lined
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: up in L.A. and hopefully across the country with them.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, new episodes of Vanderpump Rules. And
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: my vlog comes out every Wednesday. Podcast comes out every Friday.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love you.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: I'm so glad you came. Me too.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: And I will always be for you. And I like
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: the honesty.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: And it can be about you, Sheena.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: It can always be about you.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: I love you.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: Let's go dancing with the stars next year. Do not
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: give it to summer moon.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Thanks. The car is beautiful.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: Where did you end up going for it?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. they have
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: You have to put me in touch what's it called.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: It's dune ideal where dune ideal there's an accent on
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 5: the e do you mean yes i got it on
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: done deal cars.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: Lift please you're going past oh kimmage
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: No done deal cars you couldn't possibly go anywhere else