Latest / Giving Pain Purpose with Lyndsay Soprano / Healing the Roots of Our Souls
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- 0:03This is Your Pain Game podcast where we talk about the game of living in
- 0:07and with chronic pain and trauma, getting to the heart of how to heal.
- 0:12I am your host, Lindsay Soprano. On the show, I plan
- 0:18on discussing with doctors, chronic pain patients, ballistic practitioners, loved ones,
- 0:23and anybody that is interested in having their voice heard in the chronic pain and
- 0:27trauma world that we live in. I want to talk a little bit about
- 0:39roots for a moment. I have been uprooted in so many places in my
- 0:45life from as far back as I can remember as a kid, right up
- 0:48until present day, and I feel as if the roots that are this little
- 0:53body of mine, even my legs, if we want to be super visual
- 0:55about it, I feel like they're kind of rotting and weakening and they're not
- 1:00getting stronger and healthier. And I'm having this debate in my head about why
- 1:04that's happening. It kind of feels like like a gentle breeze right now would
- 1:08knock me on my ass flat, like just whoop, she's dad, She's
- 1:11done. And it's really weird because the message that I've been talking about on
- 1:15the show so much about how I push through pain and how I get through
- 1:19things and how strong I am. I'm well, I am really weak right
- 1:22now, far weaker than I was a couple of weeks ago. And there
- 1:25are a lot of things that have happened, not just in my personal life
- 1:26but with my body and family and friends and so on, that are really
- 1:30kind of uprooting a lot of the things that I thought I had been foundationally
- 1:34putting into place. But all of these little things that have been happening,
- 1:38these little tiny slights, these little tiny things that have been happening, seemed
- 1:42to be hitting me harder than usual. And I'm more emotional, and as
- 1:46you guys all know, I'm super emotional. As it is, I am
- 1:49more emotional than I have been in a very long time. And I know
- 1:53a lot of the reasons why, and I keep kind of like pushing them
- 1:56down, like we'll get there, We'll get there. But as I continue
- 1:59to dig deeper here and be honest with myself and this journey that I'm on,
- 2:02I'm finding that the constant thread that is weaved in my life in every
- 2:07place, whether it's this show, my business, my sweetie and I,
- 2:09my dogs, whatever it is, it's all stressed, and this chronic and
- 2:14debilitating stress has made me sick. I know that it has, and I've
- 2:16been working hard to eliminate some stressors in my life that I have control over,
- 2:21but I keep finding that I have so very little control over what other
- 2:24people are going to do and how I'm going to respond to that. And
- 2:28I've taken all these baby steps and open millions of little doors to get to
- 2:31this place I'm at right now, which is like feels like this big,
- 2:35feel games of throny kind of door that I've got to try to push open,
- 2:39buy my little tiny self and get out of this place that I'm in
- 2:44right now and move into this next part of my life, not the next
- 2:47chapter a whole new book. And I'm a little bit scared of what's behind
- 2:52the doors because I've let pain take over my life. I've allowed it to
- 2:57and it's now just gotten to the point that it's trickling into so many different
- 3:00areas of my life, and I've got to stop it now now that I've
- 3:04realized what's been happening. And so we talk a lot about healing on the
- 3:07show Energy Healing, talk about our souls, we talk about all the woo
- 3:12woo stuff, as well as the you know, our doctor's appointments and all
- 3:15of our medications and such. But energy and the healing that we can get
- 3:19from dealing within our energy and our spirit and whatever you look at the world
- 3:23like, is really where I have to go. And I have been so
- 3:25fortunate to meet some wonderful people while putting the show together, and one of
- 3:30them is my guest today, Geordana, and she's going to talk to you.
- 3:32I just got the chills. Oh gosh, here we go. She's
- 3:35magical. So they said a word if she's given me chills, So here
- 3:39we are. And we had an energy healing session a few weeks ago.
- 3:45I've no idea how to explain what she did, and that's why we're here
- 3:46today. And one of the things that she's going to talk about is well,
- 3:51anxiety and trust and safety. But one of the things I love,
- 3:53and is a quote from her website, is said, tune into what your
- 3:57soul knows you need, but you haven't been able to hear. And that
- 4:01really struck a chord with me because sometimes it's really hard for me to hear
- 4:05and really to listen. And so she's working with me and we're going to
- 4:10start working more together on how we can get out of this feeling that my
- 4:14tree is completely uprooted, but maybe it's just parts of it that needs to
- 4:17die off so that other places of my body and my soul can fire up
- 4:21and be nurtured the way that they should be. So, oh my gosh.
- 4:25Without further ado, i'd like to introduce you to my guest today,
- 4:28Jordana Levine. Girl, Hello, and thank you for being here with me.
- 4:31Hi Lindsay, I love your intro. I left you talked about your
- 4:34roots because you know, my business says about being rooted, so I can't
- 4:38wait to get into that. Yes, thank you. I know, well
- 4:41there's a little bit of play on that, obviously, my Darlin copyating I
- 4:46know right. Jordiana is an energy healer and intuitive guide and a cashic Records
- 4:50reader but she's going to explain because I don't know how to explain it,
- 4:55and a holistic nutritionists. She does help you learn to trust yourself and to
- 5:00your soul's desires so you can live the life that you truly deserve. So
- 5:03I'm going to roll out the red carpet for you here, and I'd like
- 5:05to start today with talking about how sickness and unhappiness, even though you looked
- 5:12like everything was good and dandy, which I am the queen of, led
- 5:15you to the place that you are today, and then let's take it from
- 5:16there. Yes, I think a lot of us who have struggled with chronic
- 5:20illness, especially more invisible illness, you know what that's all about. This
- 5:25is not a first career for me. I would almost say it's not even
- 5:28a second career because we did the nutrition and now we're doing all the woo
- 5:30and the spirituality. But I started out in, you know, a similar
- 5:34world to you are in, but on a corporate level. I was in
- 5:38corporate marketing MPR. I worked for large agencies, large companies, moving up
- 5:44in the world, doing great. You know, had my management level job,
- 5:46my designer shoes and biges and like going out for fancy cocktails and all,
- 5:50you know, client entertainment. And everyone was really proud of me.
- 5:55They were really impressed. They were like, you're doing great. I had
- 5:57all these fancy clients. If everyone actually knew these big names. But it
- 6:01wasn't wasn't doing wonders for my physical body or my mental health. I started
- 6:06developing a ton of food allergies and sensitivities, and to be honest, like
- 6:11I was allergic to the whole world pets which I love, the environment,
- 6:15which I love. Like all of these things were hurting me and tearing me
- 6:17down, and it was creating a lot of anxiety. I would have regular
- 6:21panic attacks. And then along with that, you know, like I had
- 6:25to like wear a lot of makeup and like actually be really careful with my
- 6:28hair because it was falling out, and I was getting weird skin things and
- 6:30like all this stuff that nobody really realized that I was noticing constantly, and
- 6:34I would go home and just crash every day. So you know, that
- 6:38led me to holistic nutrition first. And I always loved food. I always
- 6:41loved cooking, rescue development. That was my home. I grew up with,
- 6:45you know, a dad who loved to cook and grow his own food.
- 6:47So that was my life. And I was like, how can I
- 6:49use this to help me heal? So I quit my job at twenty nine,
- 6:53I went back to school. I was starting completely from scratch to become
- 6:58a holistic nutritionist and help people heal because I was learning how holistic nutrition and
- 7:02health and all these supplements and all these magical foods help my body heal,
- 7:05which I know you've talked about on the show of It, and I know
- 7:09many people here are Paully explored to some extent. It's a wonderful world.
- 7:13And I started working. I built my business. That was my full time
- 7:15job. I was coaching people through nutrition and their health and I was still
- 7:19really stuck, which was super frustrating because my clients were all feeling great and
- 7:24seeing all these improvements, and I was like, Okay, why why am
- 7:26I still stuck? And now is where we get into the woo Because I
- 7:30needed to explore something that until my thirties I didn't know existed and thought was
- 7:34ridiculous. And you know, I was introduced to reiki energy healing. It's
- 7:41a type of energy healing through like a random connection at a networking event online
- 7:45and someone offered me a free session and I said yes, and it just
- 7:47led me down this deep healing path because something just kept calling me back to
- 7:53this person. I worked with her every week for months and she was telling
- 7:56me I was really intuitive, and I started connecting really deeply and opening and
- 8:00I would meditate and I would like connect with guides and past loved ones,
- 8:03and I started seeing physical healing in my body. My anxiety was reducing,
- 8:05I could eat more foods again, my hair was growing back, my skin
- 8:09was better. You know, the parasite protocol had known for a year and
- 8:11a half finally started working because I was unblocking trauma and healing that. And
- 8:16then I was like, well, I need to do this for my clients
- 8:18because if it's helping me, it's definitely going to help them. So I
- 8:20became a raikikaler, and then I took more courses to develop my intuition open
- 8:26up my gifts because I was like, hey, when I go to these
- 8:28energy healers and give me all these messages from my higher self, from my
- 8:30guides, I want to be able to do that. And it's clear it's
- 8:33something that I was clearly meant to do because I kind of accidentally learned how
- 8:37to read the acoustic records, and you know, we can talk more about
- 8:39what that is. I'm a little bit, but I was really good at
- 8:41it and I didn't even know that's what I was signing up for, and
- 8:45it really allowed me to help people connect to their soul, get messages from
- 8:48their soul from their higher guidance and make really valuable shifts in every air of
- 8:54their life, whether it was career, whether it was relationships, family,
- 8:58health, and well be on. So it's become my bread and butter,
- 9:03and it is how I help people today, both through single sessions through coaching
- 9:07packages. I do group healings as well, and it's truly magical. Well,
- 9:13you answered a bunch of questions that I was going to ask you.
- 9:18No, no, I don't even know. It's great and I love that
- 9:20because that means that we were we were bringing in our magic early on.
- 9:24But I think that, I mean you name. You rattled off a bunch
- 9:26of things that I definitely deal with. I've dealt with allergies. I delve
- 9:31certainly with digestion issues. My stomach is a mess all the time. I
- 9:33feel like I've got wormy scormies just going through every single vein in my body.
- 9:37Sometimes you can actually see movement through my veins, which is really creepy.
- 9:41It's like science fiction over here. And I know Jordana and I've talked
- 9:43about, you know, getting into the Naty Griddy's about parasites and talking about
- 9:48how they wreck havoc on so many places within your body, but there's only
- 9:52so much you can do. And one of the things that I think is
- 9:54frustrating in chronic pain, specifically trauma and formed approach is that we I've tried
- 10:00so many things. We've tried so much, and it's gotten to the point
- 10:03where you're like, I've spent so much money. I don't even know how
- 10:07much I've spent anymore. And we all keep especially people that live in pain,
- 10:13are so quick to jump into like, Okay, well I'll spend ten
- 10:15thousand dollars on that, and this is going to be the thing. This
- 10:16is gonna be a thing, but it isn't. And that's what I've found
- 10:20is that if without us starting to really look in within ourselves and to really
- 10:24delve in there and be honest with ourselves, we're always going to be sick,
- 10:30always going to be sick. And But what I want to talk about
- 10:33is what you and I did in our session a little bit here, and
- 10:35how you work with somebody like me. Since you've already met me and have
- 10:39worked with me and know that I'm just a big ball of fire filled with
- 10:43all kinds of junk, can you kind of talk about what you do and
- 10:48what energetic healing means to you in somebody like myself. Yes, And you
- 10:52know, it's a huge question because energy is literally everything, and which is
- 10:58what makes it so beautiful. We can truly work with it as our support
- 11:03team, as our biggest tool in so many ways. And it's funny.
- 11:05I was just having a call with someone today who just wanted to learn more
- 11:07about working with me, and she was like, Okay, so energy healing,
- 11:11it's like crystals and cards and raki and what am I missing? What
- 11:13are all the things that our energy work? You know? And I was
- 11:18saying, well, you're listening off a bunch of tools that allows to use
- 11:20energy. But so let's if we're looking at someone like you, who,
- 11:24let's say, and you know, you're not that unique in the things that
- 11:28you deal with in the sense that like everyone on some level has you know,
- 11:33at least that I'm working with, has physical health issues, has trauma,
- 11:37whether it's from their childhood, adulthood, both a past life that they
- 11:41don't know it but that I might find out a bit really fun Yeah,
- 11:46and you know, limiting beliefs that we have grown into over our lives as
- 11:50well, right, there's so many layers that affect our energy. So let's
- 11:54start at first with what energy is, because I feel like that's an important
- 11:58place to just work out from, especially if you haven't dealt with this at
- 12:01all, you know, like, what does it mean to do energy healing?
- 12:03What is raiki or anything that's related to that. By the way,
- 12:07raiki is like a Japanese form of energy healing that I learned first that many
- 12:09people do learn first, but it is one way to work with energy.
- 12:13Right, So energy is everything right when we look at and saying this as
- 12:18a non scientist, but quantum physics, you know, tells us that atoms
- 12:22are like ninety nine point nine nine nine percent energy and like zero point zero
- 12:26zero zero one percent matter. And this includes everything you know, whether it's
- 12:31my desk right here, whether it's my hair or my skin, or my
- 12:35emotions or my thoughts, everything holds an energetic vibration, and different emotions hold
- 12:41different energetic vibrations. Right. You can look up online the vibrations the different
- 12:43emotions they'll have like a whole pyramid that goes up, and it shows you
- 12:46that you know grief and anger and frustration and have lower vibrations, whereas like
- 12:50peace and joy and fulfillment have high vibrations and ideally we want to be you
- 12:56know, when people talk about high vibe, like, we're talking about energy.
- 12:58So there are a few ways that energy can be blocked stuck and hurting
- 13:03us in our body. One of them, you know, I mentioned the
- 13:07word blocked. You can literally just have a block in your body where energy
- 13:11is not flowing. If you've explored things like acupuncture, it'd be similar to
- 13:13that. You know, we believe that there is energetic life force flowing through
- 13:18us. Raiki literally means life force energy. And if you have a trauma,
- 13:22maybe it's like someone was mean to you when you're a kid, or
- 13:24your parent made you think something bad about yourself, or you had a traumatic
- 13:28experience like where you, I don't know, got attacked by an animal or
- 13:31something like that. Those are going to create energetic blocks in your body,
- 13:35and if you're not aware of them, you're not going to remedy them.
- 13:37Right, Like, It's kind of like the way that you can eat crack
- 13:41your whole life and you're not aware that the oil, the seed oils that
- 13:43they deep for everything and at the fast feed place is blocking you up,
- 13:46and it's clogging you and that can also affect your energy by the way,
- 13:50like it can be physical. It just stays there and then you go to
- 13:54an energy billa for the first time and I take a look and I'm like,
- 13:58oh, there are some big blockages here, or maybe there are some
- 14:01vibrations in your body that are not in alignment with where you're supposed to be
- 14:03with who you really are. You know, we can look at different energy
- 14:05centers. They all represent different emotions. And I'm not going to like explain
- 14:09the whole thing. You know, we thought a certain amount of time,
- 14:11but ideally, the most important thing to understand about energy work and energy healing
- 14:16is that when we are working on your energy, we are restoring flow and
- 14:20like the vibrations of the highest level light to you over time. Now you
- 14:24know, might not happen in a single session, or we might shift the
- 14:28energy in one area but then go to another area the next time, but
- 14:31ideally, like we're bringing you back up to baseline. And if you think
- 14:33about it, you know, like going to the gym, the first time
- 14:35you go, you might just like stretch and move around a little bit.
- 14:37It's not going to be so easy. But the more that your body gets
- 14:41used to being in that frequency, the easier it is for you to shift.
- 14:46I like that analogy because it's totally true, like you start going to
- 14:48die where you start anything new for that matter, Like for me, one
- 14:52of the challenges with trying to get me to start healing my body from other
- 14:56in new ways that we had thought it was going to be I to start
- 15:00eating again. And I didn't think that it was going to be as big
- 15:03of a challenge. I thought it was gonna be like, oh, no,
- 15:05big deal. I only developed this over the pastio seven eight years and
- 15:09now also and I'm like, why am I not fixed? And it's been
- 15:11two weeks of me eating perfect? You know, because it's going to take
- 15:15longer than I actually thought. My relationship with food has changed so much to
- 15:20the point that like everything sounds terrible, you know, like even Mexican food,
- 15:24and I love Mexican food so much, Like I don't even want to
- 15:28eat tacos. Like it's it's gotten to the point where I have a block.
- 15:31I don't know where it is, but there's something there that makes me
- 15:35not want to feed my body. And so with so starting to eat again
- 15:39and feed my body in a nutritious way. Even when I did eat,
- 15:41I never really ate bad food anyways. But now I'm eating to heal instead
- 15:46of eating because I need to. It's just because everybody else just eats right
- 15:50for me, I had to figure out a way to push through this really
- 15:52really scary place that I've ended up in unintentionally. And now I'm here and
- 15:58I'm finding I've got all of these the things that are wrapped around that,
- 16:00this eating situation that I did not know about. And I like what you
- 16:06said about the intention behind your eating because of course, like you can come
- 16:08to an energy healer like me and I can heal your energy. But we
- 16:11all have the power to shift our energy. You know, people talk about
- 16:15things like manifestation and mindset that is part of energy work. So when you
- 16:18are you know, like I understand now why people say grace before they eat
- 16:22or where they think their food. When you are setting the intention that this
- 16:26food is nourishing you versus looking at it is something that's hurting you, you
- 16:30are charging that energy into like what you're doing and what your food is giving
- 16:33to you. There have literally been studies that show the molecular structure of water
- 16:37changes based on how you talk to it. Well, that's so interesting that
- 16:40you said that, because I remember reading something about that. It was probably
- 16:42a decent time ago actually, but that wow, totally the energy that went
- 16:48through the water, and there was like a whole like display that somebody did
- 16:52someone. I don't remember where it was. I'm terrible storyteller right now and
- 16:55regards to that, but yeah, I mean, it's nuts because I'm feeling
- 16:57when I sit down and I eat a I'm not just like I have to
- 17:00eat this right now. It is I'm sitting down and I'm eating a last
- 17:04even though I didn't eat that much. But when I'm like, oh,
- 17:06I've got to pull a bunch of food on my plate right now, so
- 17:08I'm at least looks like I'm eating something. And I was catching myself just
- 17:11moving food around. When I was sitting around my parents, I'm I sweetie,
- 17:15because they're like hawk eyes on me right now to make sure I'm eating.
- 17:18And I've developed little tricks. I did not know that I was doing
- 17:22it, and so I started noticing these things and then I was like,
- 17:25Okay, if you're going to try to eat, you don't need to put
- 17:26like what you used to just like sit down and eat like three tacos and
- 17:30whatever, just try one. And so what I started to do was literally
- 17:33have a conversation with my food for a sec and just go all right,
- 17:37I know this isn't been we've been like we've been kind of in a fight
- 17:38here. However, last night I talked to my broccoli. I'm not gonna
- 17:44lie. It's what I did, and I prayed that it would nourish me
- 17:48and help me heal. And I'm not a prayer. I'm not you know,
- 17:51I'm not into that thing. I mean I am, but I'm not
- 17:52in my own way. And it was interesting how I feel better when I
- 17:56do that, when I sit and I eat. It's just that intention of
- 18:00it, of it helping me heal, having it be good for me,
- 18:03not just like oh I've got to do it because that's what everyone's telling me,
- 18:07I gotta do. I want to see something about because you mentioned like,
- 18:11oh, I'm not a prayer, like not in that way, and
- 18:14I think that's been a really big part for me of like this even just
- 18:17using the word spiritual as who I am or what I do like, because
- 18:22I think a lot of us grew up like I grew up Jewish, we
- 18:23grew up in different religions, and there are things that resonate things that don't.
- 18:27Some people are like very devoted to their religious faith, and some people
- 18:32don't believe it at all, or it is like they have an aversion to
- 18:34it. And I think like people get kind of confused about spirituality and religion
- 18:40and think that they either can't co exist or have to co exist. And
- 18:44that's like such a unique journey. And I can tell that you're on that
- 18:45as well for yourself because in some ways, like I understand people who are
- 18:51religious so much more now than I used to. And then in other ways,
- 18:53like the way that I just look at the world and the universe and
- 18:56the divine support that's all around us is print in like a way that is
- 19:02unique too. You know, we talked about connecting with your soul, and
- 19:03I'm sure we'll talk about it more, but it just like it's what feels
- 19:07good for my soul. And I have clients who are like very religious in
- 19:10different ways, and that clients who are not religious at all, and they
- 19:12all find a way to like feel supported by this higher power in a way
- 19:17that feels good for them. So it's a it's a fun adventure. It
- 19:19is a fun adventure, and that leads I want to I definitely want to
- 19:22hop in and talk about so the session that we had, Let's talk about
- 19:26that and what how how that went for you, because I want to know
- 19:30what you what you're what you were doing with me, and how how our
- 19:34session went in your mind, and you can say whatever you want to.
- 19:37I mean, I'm an open book on this show. So I'm curious just
- 19:40to see what your interpretation of our our session, how that was, and
- 19:44because I know that I need to work with you further. She knows,
- 19:49I mean, I'm all little psychics, I know. Yeah. So the
- 19:55cool thing about our session is we didn't decide exactly what it's going to be
- 19:57before. I was like, we I do a reading, we might do
- 20:00healing, we might do a combination. And I really like to honestly do
- 20:04this with all of my clients where I like to tune into your energy when
- 20:08I get into the session, because sometimes our ego might think that we know
- 20:11we need like we want a whole bunch of answers. We want to know
- 20:14what we're supposed to do with something, but that's not what our soul wants.
- 20:17So that is something that is like part of the gift that I have
- 20:19that I'm able to share with my clients, and I shared with you of
- 20:23tuning into your energy, you know, even a couple of minutes before we
- 20:26got on the call, just to ask what your soul needed and and you
- 20:30know, I got the message from me. You you said, like it,
- 20:32it's been a hard few weeks for you and you go through those struggle
- 20:34periods and you were exhausted and overwhelmed, and you know, I had a
- 20:38lot of emotions running on and I felt instantly that you just needed to receive
- 20:44a more passive form of healing that day. So you know, I got
- 20:48you to lie down, We got into a nice meditative state. We put
- 20:51on some beautiful music. I like to pick different binaral beats, which you
- 20:53know, going back to that conversation about frequency, different frequencies correspond to different
- 21:00centers. If you've heard of chakras, that's what I'm talking about. And
- 21:03I don't remember which one we chose for you, to be honest, but
- 21:06it was whatever whichever energy center needed the most support, and they're all tied
- 21:08to different emotions and feelings and yeah, you lindsay, We're just able to
- 21:14relax and receive. And basically what happens is I channel like the highest form
- 21:19of energy that you know, I'm able to channel. It's not my energy,
- 21:23it's energy that is coming through me from something greater from this like universal
- 21:27life force, and I'm able to work with it as a partner basically to
- 21:33channel it to you. And the cool thing about energy feeling is most of
- 21:37us have been trained to be able to do it from a farm, so
- 21:38we don't need to be in the same room or city or country. I
- 21:42just tune into your energy the way I would tune into a radio station,
- 21:47and I'm able to channel that energy. And I feel like that's an easy
- 21:49way to understand. It's like, Okay, I get your name, I
- 21:52get your birthday, like I know where you are, and okay, this
- 21:55is the right the right one. Let's send it here. And as I'm
- 21:57going through, I receive messages from you because I'm tuning in, you know,
- 22:03a caustic records. This is another piece that I've I'm able to tune
- 22:07into your soul directly. I'm able to connect with your divine guidance. So
- 22:11you know, if you believe in the angels and the spirit team that surrounds
- 22:12you, like I can connect to that as well, and they're able to
- 22:15give me information and feedback about what you need, and then I'm able to
- 22:22give that to you and heal you in the ways that are required for for
- 22:26your body. So I do you know, like I've been trained to heal
- 22:29energy in certain ways, I definitely follow some additional feedback and guidance that I'll
- 22:33get and I'll receive messages a long way that I like to write down and
- 22:37share with you at the end. So you know, that's a more passive,
- 22:40like closer to a Raikey situation. Sometimes we do more of an active
- 22:45healing where I'm talking with you throughout it. With this one, I just
- 22:48took the notes and at the end of the session, I share what came
- 22:52up with you. Yeah, and but we a lot of it was I
- 22:55felt really really heavy, and then I felt really really light. I was
- 23:00having difficulty breathing at some point, like I was breathing faster. My heart
- 23:03rate went up, and then it kind of went down again. I'm normally
- 23:06really really hot and sweaty, so for me to like I had to wrap
- 23:07myself up. I don't know if you remember about I had to wrap myself
- 23:11up in my blanket that was next to me and like snuggle up with myself
- 23:15because it's so cold. The then I got sweaty and hot and all of
- 23:17that. Yeah, so sorry, go ahead, Yeah, no, the
- 23:22sensations and I like using that were those sensations kind of coming and going.
- 23:26I felt all of that, and that was I wasn't doing anything outside of
- 23:32being open. I like that you brought up ego because I know a lot
- 23:33of people were talking the woo woo side of things, where some people are
- 23:37like, especially my sweetie, he'd be like what what what are you talking
- 23:40about? Because I tried to explain in what we did, it's like I
- 23:44don't get it. I don't get it, and I'm like that's okay,
- 23:45I don't worry about it, and you know what, like you're not gonna
- 23:48get it until you experience it. The first time I had a session,
- 23:52I was like, no way. And then after I was like, okay,
- 23:53I don't know what you did to me, but steph happened in my
- 23:56body and those sensations, you know, they're tied too. We were removing
- 24:00energy in differ parts where it was stuck. We were clearing out a lot
- 24:03of the time there's just stuff that gets stuck in you that's not even yours,
- 24:04especially if you're an m staff, if you work with people, if
- 24:07you can interact with anyone, so I know, with you, we did
- 24:10a lot of removing like other people's crap that had lodged itself into your energy
- 24:15body, which can make you feel cold because we're literally taking you know,
- 24:18it's like they' by like giving blood. You get cold, right, and
- 24:22then we're restoring that flows, so then you get warm and sweaty. You
- 24:23get I mean, I'm always sweating. People laugh, because by the end
- 24:26of session I will have stripped off like all my layers because the energy is
- 24:30very potent, so I will always feel that heat. And people who have
- 24:34had in person for me, like I remember I've practiced on my husband and
- 24:37I was doing it and he was like, why are your hands so hot?
- 24:38Like what's happening? Because I'm like, well, the energy is coming
- 24:41through, that's nuts. And so so I have a question that probably some
- 24:45listeners might have, which is do you see anything do you so like I've
- 24:51got like an angels you like super cool like deck done in some like rockabilly
- 24:53gear or like how how do you? And I'm I'm not trying to make
- 24:56fun of it in any way, shape or form, because I think it's
- 25:00add what you do. I'm just curious to see if there is there a
- 25:02visual component that you experience, and what about the people on the other side.
- 25:07I can't necessarily say that I saw any particular like face, but I
- 25:11definitely felt glowing like entities around me and almost like little I'm not gonna I
- 25:15don't want to say cast with a ghost, but they were like a little
- 25:18bald, little head thing and they were just blobs just kind of there,
- 25:22and then one would just kind of disappear and then another wooded gear and it
- 25:26was just kind of this weird, flowy kind of a feeling that was happening.
- 25:30And is is that what happens to everybody? Or I mean, I
- 25:33don't want to put everybody into a bucket because we're all so different. We're
- 25:37all different. So okay, I'll tell you from my side and then I'll
- 25:41tell you from your side what happens. So, first of all, different
- 25:45energy healers and intuitives like myself have different gifts, and everyone has different gifts.
- 25:48By the way, just because you haven't opened doors up the whole way,
- 25:51it does not mean they're not there. Everyone. You know you saw
- 25:53stuff in your room when you were little, or you've heard things that you
- 25:56shut down because people told you it was weird. We all had that when
- 25:57we were kids. I certainly did. I've developed my senses over time.
- 26:02So you know, people talk about things like clairvoyance. That's a really common
- 26:04one, which means that you're able to see things or it's the let that
- 26:07people talk about because like seeing stuff seems so tangible, right, But there
- 26:10are a lot of different kinds of claires. There's clairvoyance, there's clear audience
- 26:14where you hear things. There's clear sentience where you feel things in your body
- 26:17like there are a bunch of different clear cognizance, which is unnoing that that
- 26:21was my first gift of just like you don't know why you know things what
- 26:23you do and when you're little, people like don't understand think you're a note
- 26:26at all or annoying. There are all these different kinds of guests. So
- 26:30some people have some over the others. Mine have developed in different measures and
- 26:34switched. I've always had the clear cognizance and clear sentience, so I actually
- 26:38tend to feel a lot of what you're feeling in my body, like i'll
- 26:41protect myself so I'm not taking it on, but I will feel those sensations.
- 26:45So a lot of what you were talking about I feel too when I'm
- 26:47doing it. And I feel this when i'm doing whether I'm doing or reading
- 26:49or a silent feeling, it doesn't matter. I do see things and hear
- 26:52things as well. I wouldn't say some people see things more like in the
- 26:56three D. That's not what I see. It's really in my minds.
- 27:00So I'm seeing visions, but it's not like a concrete being in front of
- 27:03me. Right. Sometimes they'll be super clear, and sometimes they'll be less
- 27:07clear. Sometimes it will be more like the color and the shape and the
- 27:10outlines, when it will be a very specific face. One person was asking
- 27:14like they wanted to connect with loved ones, and I had a couple of
- 27:15initials that came up, and it ended up being like her grandparents on her
- 27:18mom's side. So I got a different messages in a lot of different ways.
- 27:22And if I'm not clear on them. I'll ask for more and I'll
- 27:25usually get like I do kind of hear some stuff. So it's a little
- 27:30hard to explain exactly how it feels for me, But I get all those
- 27:33messages, and part of me like developing my own intuition and open up those
- 27:36gifts, is that it became easier for me to receive that information, which
- 27:38is what makes it fun to work with someone like me, Like I can
- 27:41give you that and I get to write it all down and share it with
- 27:42you, and some of it's very like, I know, I gave you
- 27:45some very specific things and and every you were like, yeah, exactly,
- 27:49yes, it's all correct. Like so on the other side, for you,
- 27:53it's really dependent on the person. I would say most people feel or
- 27:57see something in some way, but it's not necessary. Like people are like,
- 28:02but if I didn't see anything or whatever, like it doesn't you don't
- 28:04have to. It's still working. And the more that you tend to work
- 28:07with this kind of energy and just become comfortable and connected with it, the
- 28:11more you will tend to see an experience. So I find that like my
- 28:15clients that I work with on a weekly or a monthly basis, their intuition
- 28:19gets stronger too, and their connection and just familiarity with that energy gets stronger
- 28:23as well. So I would say, yeah, sensations in the body is
- 28:27a really common thing, whether it's hot, cold, tingling, swirling,
- 28:32anything like that. People often see different colors or shapes, and those can
- 28:37correspond to different beings or different chakras that are being worked on. And sometimes
- 28:41people will see specific things like I remember I had one client, like really
- 28:44early on, and she thought a very specific word pop up when I was
- 28:48doing healing on her, and it was this issue that she couldn't resolve,
- 28:51and she thought that it was this other problem I was something to do with
- 28:55her daughter. I cannot remember exactly what it was. I'm not going to
- 28:57share like what happened anyway, but it was no, it was like a
- 29:02physical health thing that she was dealing with, but it was related to something
- 29:04completely not what she thought it was. After she had her daughter and she
- 29:08was having all these weird symptoms and it was related to like an emotional trauma
- 29:11that had happened with her family over that year, and she saw that word
- 29:15in front of her, and we came out at thin and she's like,
- 29:18oh my gosh, I know he's act what the problem is. And then
- 29:19we and you know, we cleared it and heeled it away so that the
- 29:22thing once we figured out we can do it. And I didn't see that,
- 29:25I received a different message. And by me sharing what I had with
- 29:27her and her sharing what she had with me, it was like putting the
- 29:30puzzle pieces together. So that's what's really cool, Like we actually get to
- 29:33co create together, and it's really empowering because it shows you that once again,
- 29:37like you don't have to like I'm not the only one that can heal
- 29:41you. You can be a part of that healing. You can do it
- 29:42on your own. And then I would say, like sometimes I do have
- 29:45a lot of clients who are fellow healers and they're like super connected, so
- 29:49they'll often see pretty potent things if they're already like a clairvoyant or something like
- 29:53that. That's nuts. How do you work with people? I mean,
- 29:56I know that you have different offerings that you have right now, and I
- 30:00know that you're you're working on, you know, doing different ways of different
- 30:03things with different people and so on that on average, is there an average
- 30:07of like how many sessions that people usually do that where they start to really
- 30:11feel connected and feel a little bit more rooted and not like flying all over
- 30:15the place like I feel like I'm out of control. I would say,
- 30:21like to see the biggest change in the quickest amount of time. My most
- 30:25like potent container is is a coaching container for three months and we meet three
- 30:30times a month, but we're also talking in between or like messaging and chatting.
- 30:33And here's the thing, Like, it's not limited to what happens in
- 30:37that one hour because you leave and you're taking that energy with you, you're
- 30:40taking those messages with you, You're reflecting. And I know you were talking
- 30:44about this at the beginning. It's not just you know, you don't go
- 30:45to the practitioner, pay them ten thousand dollars, get your tests and supplements
- 30:48the end, because I've done that too and it didn't work for me.
- 30:52It is, you know, you got to be all in, which is
- 30:55often why this is not the first place unless people go. It can be
- 30:57and it can also be a companion to any other healing method, which is
- 31:02what's great. It doesn't like interact with any medications, right, you could
- 31:04do energy, yeah, exactly, but yeah, So that way we're meeting
- 31:11like on a consistent basis, We're talking constantly, and it's just it's empowering
- 31:14you. It's exposing you to that energy and that frequency on a really potent
- 31:18level daily. So usually people who do that do a three month, three
- 31:23month package. I definitely have clients have continued well beyond that, and we
- 31:26do am Like every session is intuitively leads you get in the session, I
- 31:30tune into your energy, we talk about what's going on with you. Sometimes
- 31:33it's just discussion, but like I'm my gifts are open in the sessions.
- 31:37So even if we're talking, like I am channeling that information often from your
- 31:41higher self. Sometimes it's more of a passive healing if that's what you need.
- 31:47Sometimes, so you'll show up and I'll say, okay, you just
- 31:48need to lie down and close your eyes and like you can fall asleep.
- 31:51I'm just gonna heal you. And sometimes it's like let's do a reading because
- 31:53you need to get some very tangible answers right now. And what's cool is
- 31:57like I've studied a bunch of stuff, I worked with a bunch different things,
- 32:00so we can do that. I definitely have clients within that who we
- 32:02know will look at their physical stuff, we'll look at their holistic health piece,
- 32:07because that is an important part of being energetically stable. If you're not
- 32:10detoxing, you can't like you know, you've got a detox negative energy too.
- 32:15It's all part of it. However, this is not the only way
- 32:17to work with me, and you know that's a that's a big investment of
- 32:21time and energy money. It's different. If you want to start with one
- 32:24session, I usually recommend booking honestly, and a caustic records reading. It's
- 32:30usually a combo of reading and healing. So it's similar to what I did
- 32:31with you. Sometimes it's more active, sometimes it's more passive. But it's
- 32:35a really great way to just experience it. And I do have clients who
- 32:38will literally just come to me like quarterly for a reading and healing and for
- 32:43them that feels complete and supportive enough for them. The last option, which
- 32:47is kind of like a lower level but more consistent, is so I do
- 32:52have a membership, and I know I mentioned I do group healings, so
- 32:54I can also heal your energy as a group. And yes, it works
- 32:57really really well. Everyone who's in my community is like energetically qualified to be
- 33:01there. They actually amplify the energy. So we do monthly group healing in
- 33:05that, and then you can upgrade from like the basic one if you want
- 33:08to meet with me one on one and you get a one on one session
- 33:10with me each month in addition to the group healing, which once again can
- 33:14be used for anything that you need in that session that your energy tells this
- 33:17you need, so that you know, it's not all the support in between.
- 33:20It's not like the deep coaching, but it's a good way. Like
- 33:22I would just say, it's you know, it's like having a gym membership.
- 33:25That's why I created a membership. You're keeping your energy regularly upgraded and
- 33:30healed and connected. And by the way, like when you do the coaching,
- 33:32you get access to all the group healings and all this stuff. In
- 33:35that community. There's a whole library of like meditations and like recordings from past
- 33:38sessions and monthly read I do like monthly energy readings on what's going on,
- 33:44So there's all kinds of fun stuff in there. But those are like the
- 33:45primary ways to work with me, And honestly, like if you're not sure
- 33:50what to do, just like I'm on Instagram all the time, or you
- 33:52can email me, like send me an email or a DM and we can
- 33:55figure out what your first first option is. Yeah, because right now I'm
- 34:00staring at my my big Game of Thrones d door, and it's taking me
- 34:06a long time to get to this particular place where I'm at, and I'm
- 34:08super ready, but I'm not gonna say that I'm not a little bit scared
- 34:14because I've been I've been brewing. Yeah, well, thank you for saying
- 34:15that, because that makes me feel less scared. But with my with my
- 34:20safety issues that I have, you know, and trust issues, getting me
- 34:22to this place has been scary. It's been. It has been going through
- 34:25places and going through hills and valleys and mountains full of rocks and wolves and
- 34:30bears and tigers, and I'm sick of I'm all screaming at me and scaring
- 34:32me. I'm done with fight or flight, right And so I'm here and
- 34:36I'm like, okay it. I had all of my gear on, and
- 34:39I had you know, my shields, and I was putting up walls everywhere
- 34:42I could, and all of them have started to crumble, and all of
- 34:45them have started to crumble, and now it's me and I'm naked and I'm
- 34:46here, and I'm like standing up against something that I can't do alone.
- 34:51And I'm not going to say I'm not scared, because i am. But
- 34:53it's a good place. These are happy tears, and it's a good place
- 34:57that I'm at. It just took me some scary shit to get here,
- 35:00you know. Yeah, can you really quick, because I know we're getting
- 35:02close on time, but can you really quick explain what an acoustic records reader
- 35:07is? Because you say it quickly like we all know what you're talking about.
- 35:13So the Akashic records are essentially okay if you think about your soul and
- 35:17you can wrap your head around the fact that I'm calling it a fact because
- 35:21I know that it is, but you don't have to believe that that it's
- 35:22okay. Our soul has many lives, right, and our souls go on
- 35:28a big, long journey. We've had past, present, present, future
- 35:30lives that we don't know about, but our soul knows about. And our
- 35:35soul has its own library. Imagine it as a physical library filled with like
- 35:38walls of books, if that makes it easy for you, And it's a
- 35:43literal record of our souls joining throughout time and space. Now when we're trying
- 35:47to get direction, we're feeling lost in our careers, with our finances,
- 35:52with our relationships, our family life, our health, our mental health,
- 35:57physical health, all of that. Right, we get stuck. Right,
- 36:00we don't want to make the wrong choice, we don't want to take the
- 36:02wrong turn. We're worried that we're going way off track. And when you
- 36:07connect with your soul through these records, essentially like my abilities that I can
- 36:13go into your record, it's like the way that I tune into energy for
- 36:15the energy healing, I tune into your library of your soul, and I'm
- 36:19able to help you get answers directly from your soul, and they are exactly
- 36:22what your soul needs to hear at this time. They're not always what going
- 36:27back to that ego thing might not be what your ego wants to do.
- 36:30Maybe you know library is freaking huge. It's massive, and like you've probably
- 36:36had a lot of lives. I know I have, like I've seen it.
- 36:38There's I better have. I better have, that's all I got.
- 36:42I feel, I feel that you very much had. And here's the thing.
- 36:46It sometimes helps to have not an impartial but like a neutral, positively,
- 36:53lovingly motivated sense of guidance in our next move. So when I go
- 37:00into your Acashic records with you, this is like a very active interactive session.
- 37:04They will often guide me to do healing as part of the session.
- 37:06And I say, day, I mean your guides or soul, whatever you
- 37:07want to think about it as the universe. But we'll be able to ask
- 37:10questions about anything that you want to and you will get the answer that you
- 37:15need. So for example, if you're asking like should eye and a relationship,
- 37:21you might not get that answer, but you will get an answer.
- 37:23They will help you figure out that answer. Right. It really depends because
- 37:27for a lot of us, you know, we talk with this long healing
- 37:29journey. We needed to go on these healing journeys to be where we are
- 37:32now, to be like the incredible people that we are today and are continuing
- 37:36to become. If someone had just told me ten years ago, like,
- 37:38hey, you need to go learn about these Acosta records, I would have
- 37:42been like okay, you would have been like you're insane, or I would
- 37:46have learned nothing along the way and missed out and half lessons in my life.
- 37:50So I say this just to kind of like set the expectation. Sometimes
- 37:52you will get like super clear answers and they come through me. So it's
- 37:55the same way that I said about receiving information and the healings, which is
- 38:00why it's really not that different. I'm seeing things, I'm hearing things,
- 38:01I'm feeling things. Often like your soul. Your guides will literally just talk
- 38:07through me and I'll just share exactly what's coming up, and I record everything
- 38:10so you can listen back to it later because we get a lot of information
- 38:14and like a single hour and you can't starve it all at once, which
- 38:16is fine, but it's that's why I say, like doing a reading is
- 38:20a really cool way to get an overview and also just feel really divinely supported.
- 38:25And sometimes the answer they give you to a question that you ask is
- 38:30we want to give you energy healing for ten minutes, can you please close
- 38:31your eyes? And then I fell you for ten minutes and that's the answer.
- 38:36So it's really it's a really powerful thing. I feel so grateful that
- 38:40I get to do these, like it is really the greatest gift and the
- 38:44most fun thing I've ever done in my life and everyone leaves with like a
- 38:46lot of good stuff. Well, and I love that you started the beginning
- 38:51of our episode talking about everybody thinks it's like crystals and all this stuff.
- 38:54You know, that's it, Like, oh, you know, and it's
- 38:58funny because that's totally how my sweet views this kind of stuff. But he's
- 39:00opened up over the past year and a half and some change of me talking
- 39:06about this kind of stuff because he's been so big pharma and so western medicine
- 39:08minded for so long and he's seen it fail every single time for me.
- 39:14I mean, there's been zero help. If anything, it's caused me more
- 39:17problems, and so slowly but surely he's been starting to move over to understanding
- 39:22that there are things that I that really do make me feel better that has
- 39:25nothing to do with a pill or a doctor. I can tell you that
- 39:28much right now. And I feel I feel so safe with you. And
- 39:34when you've gone to see quote unquote healers and anybody that you've seen, right
- 39:38there's always that that feeling of safety or mistrust or anxiety about it because it's
- 39:45going to be the same damn thing Like last time I spend money and it
- 39:46doesn't work right. And I've had to continue to break through that that inner
- 39:52narrative that I've made for myself in that regard, and I know I hear
- 39:54it from so many my chronic patient friends and so on and so forth.
- 39:58I don't like calling us patient, but luck for a better term. And
- 40:01you know it, we're all starting to get get a little bit more of
- 40:06the message that it is our souls reaching out for us big time, and
- 40:09that we just need to start listening a little bit more. But people like
- 40:13you make me feel safe because I don't feel very safe around a lot of
- 40:16people because a lot of what they've told me to do has ended up biting
- 40:21me in the ass and costing me a ton of money and making me worse.
- 40:22So thank you for making me feel safe in an ad trusted space.
- 40:25So and I really appreciate you saying that and sharing that, because like I've
- 40:30been there too, and there were so many there are so many situations where
- 40:35we don't feel heard, we don't feel like just supported, And you know
- 40:39that can happen in any field. I would say the same thing for working
- 40:43with a healer like myself, Like whether it's me or someone else you always
- 40:45want to find someone that makes you feel a hundred percent safe, and it's
- 40:50going to be different for every person. I know that not everyone is necessarily
- 40:53going to choose me, but I also know that like, part of the
- 40:58way that I operate is creating a safe space. Like that is really important
- 41:00because the level of anxiety that I have felt about my health over the last
- 41:07you know, fifteen plus years of my life was stabilitating. And the fact
- 41:10that I don't feel that way anymore, and it's because of this shows me
- 41:15that people like you and your friends and listeners here deserve to have that option.
- 41:22And it's also there's a reason that the other stuff didn't work. You
- 41:24know, there's a reason that you're being guided to do this. It's important
- 41:29for you for your life's mission, perhaps because you need to share with other
- 41:32people, or just because you need to experience something like there is a reason
- 41:36why Western medicine is enough for some people and is not enough for other people.
- 41:39Yeah, that's that's a that's a good point for sure, because they're
- 41:43a bit like this one is just yeah, yeah, it takes a pill,
- 41:45feels great, no problems, you know, and me, I'm like,
- 41:46oh my gosh, I'm seventeen. The reason that they have the commercials
- 41:50for all of these pills with all the things at the end of them,
- 41:52because I'm not oo point oh percent that will get all of those crappy things
- 41:57from the medications. Been like that since I was a little girl, so
- 42:00we've always been hard to treat. So here I am, but as a
- 42:02little girl, trauma started at such a young age. I feel like so
- 42:07much of my stuff is just energy being stuck in my body and just junk
- 42:09in here. I really, really truly do, because the other stuff hasn't
- 42:13worked. Being gluten free, I'm sorry, I've been gluten free forever.
- 42:15It doesn't work for me for pain, just doesn't. It doesn't help my
- 42:19stomach store I'm probably helps me a little bit, but you know what i
- 42:21mean, it's just these things. I've tried it all. I'm like,
- 42:23so nothing's working, nothing's working. Well, accept some of it has worked
- 42:27because it's gotten me to the place that I'm at right now. So I've
- 42:29got to look at the winds that have come out of this, right Like,
- 42:32I've always talking about giving my pain purpose, and that's why I'm here,
- 42:36and that's why I showed up today to talk with you because I'm doing
- 42:38this to give my pain purpose. Otherwise, what am I doing? What
- 42:43am I doing? If it's not for giving pain purpose? Here, there's
- 42:45gotta be a reason for all of this, right, So well, before
- 42:49we go again, thank you for spending time with us today and talking about
- 42:52this because it's so interesting and I know we could talk about this for hours,
- 42:54but I'd rather have them pay you to help help you help them.
- 43:00Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's just such a remarkable thing and gift that
- 43:06you've been given. And thank you for sharing it with us because it's really
- 43:08really a really neat way of approaching approaching your care and your health. And
- 43:13I just really appreciate your time today. Is there anything that you want to
- 43:15leave our listeners with before we had hit the dusty trail here? I mean,
- 43:19gosh, yeah, literally, First of all, if you do want
- 43:22to learn more and you're not sure, just like send me a DM or
- 43:23something. I truly mean it. I will respond to you, probably with
- 43:28a long voice note, because I want everyone to feel safe and comfortable coming
- 43:31into like whatever they're doing. If it's just falling along with me and like
- 43:35learning about whatever's going on, that's great too, send me a message and
- 43:37say hi, and it was nice to meet you here, I will say.
- 43:39A really great way to start too, is I mentioned that I have
- 43:43that community. It's called the Rooted Community because I'm rooted by Jordana. It's
- 43:45my business and every month we meet twice a month and we do group healings
- 43:51and we do group handled messages and it's like such a lovely, loving community
- 43:57of people like us and you guys a free seven day trail, so if
- 44:01anybody wants to try it out for free, look at just look at the
- 44:06page and whenever the next session is if you want to, like, get
- 44:08a free session, but even if you don't, there's a whole library of
- 44:10like past recorded messages and meditations. So that's a really cool place to go
- 44:16and just explore it for free and just see what it feels like. And
- 44:21one other free thing I'll mention if you are an EmPATH who takes on other
- 44:22people's energy, which I mean I guess is basically everyone here. This is
- 44:27how we get chronic pain and trauma. If you go to my website,
- 44:30I have a free guided meditation that is eight minutes and it helps you set
- 44:35up your energy and clear away all the junk that you've picked up for the
- 44:37day, and like, truly do it every morning for a week. It
- 44:43changes. Really, that's all I'll say. So those are like two free
- 44:45resources just to get you started exploring. I love it. Change your life
- 44:49in eight minutes with Georgiana. Yeah it is And in fact I actually signed
- 44:53up and got the email for me to get started on doing it myself.
- 44:58So so okay, well, thank you so much and for being here with
- 45:00us. I really appreciate. I will have everything in show notes for you.
- 45:02But on Insta she's rooted by Jordana. Same thing with Facebook it's j
- 45:07O R D A n so rooted by Jordana. I will put that in
- 45:10show notes and in social as well. And gosh, I don't know what
- 45:15else to say, but thank you. It's been a pleasure. Thanks so
- 45:17much for having me. You got it. Thank you. You are exclusively
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