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- 0:37Speaker 2: Let's for you, God, oh my gosh, what a game.
- 1:08Speaker 3: Unbelievable. Good morning to you, Happy Friday. It is Chuck
- 1:12Speaker 3: a Buck in the morning Sports Radio ninety three point
- 1:14Speaker 3: three KJRFM. We are assembled to provide for you four
- 1:20Speaker 3: straight hours of analysis of one of the most incredible
- 1:23Speaker 3: football games any of us have ever witnessed. Thirty eight
- 1:27Speaker 3: to thirty seven. The Seahawks win in overtime over the
- 1:30Speaker 3: Los Angeles Rams. They were calling it from coast to
- 1:33Speaker 3: coast the game of the year going into the contest.
- 1:37Speaker 3: I would say that it lived up to its hype.
- 1:40Speaker 3: Just kind of an unbelievable experience. I mean, there were
- 1:44Speaker 3: moments that could not be believed from beginning to end
- 1:48Speaker 3: in this contest. And I'm telling you I know that
- 1:51Speaker 3: four hours to a lot of sports talk show host
- 1:54Speaker 3: across America. They really nearly is daunting to them. Gotta
- 2:00Speaker 3: fill four hours, gotta fill four hours just talking about sports.
- 2:03Speaker 3: How am I going to do that today? We could
- 2:05Speaker 3: go for forty four hours here today. There's no way
- 2:08Speaker 3: to get everything in that took place yesterday, but we're
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- 2:23Speaker 3: forty percent alcohol by volume, savor responsibly. Good morning to
- 2:28Speaker 3: you all. Ashley Ryan is here, former Mariner Bucky Jacobson.
- 2:31Speaker 3: My name is Chuck Powell. We've got a cast of
- 2:34Speaker 3: thousands or three that are gonna join us as our
- 2:36Speaker 3: experts throughout the course of our four hours together. But
- 2:40Speaker 3: my goodness, what an entertaining evening. And it turned out
- 2:44Speaker 3: just right, just the way that it was supposed to
- 2:47Speaker 3: go Seahawks with a win thirty eight to thirty seven
- 2:50Speaker 3: over the Los Angeles Rams. Are you not entertained, Bucky?
- 2:54Speaker 4: Oh?
- 2:54Speaker 5: I don't know how you could not be entertained that
- 2:56Speaker 5: that is a guarantee. I mean, that definitely the best
- 2:59Speaker 5: game I've seen in a long time, and I can't
- 3:01Speaker 5: imagine a game that has more on the line. I mean,
- 3:05Speaker 5: I suppose than a Week eighteen where you're win and
- 3:07Speaker 5: you're in, and you're losing.
- 3:08Speaker 6: You're out.
- 3:09Speaker 5: But this one the idea of a number one seed, yeah,
- 3:12Speaker 5: I mean, typically if you're in that eighteenth week or
- 3:15Speaker 5: whatever and it's it's win and get in, you're not
- 3:18Speaker 5: also maybe going to get the number one seed or
- 3:21Speaker 5: be out.
- 3:22Speaker 6: That's not usually the way it works.
- 3:23Speaker 5: So this one has some big marbles on the table
- 3:26Speaker 5: and for it to live up to expectations and then
- 3:29Speaker 5: some I mean the back and forth way in which
- 3:32Speaker 5: it went definitely down the stretch was I mean, it
- 3:35Speaker 5: was crazy. That place was insane. I'm sure it sounded
- 3:37Speaker 5: like it was insane on TV. And just the way
- 3:40Speaker 5: in which that went down, I mean, the biggest comeback
- 3:43Speaker 5: in Seahawks' franchise history is.
- 3:45Speaker 3: Yeah, in a moment, Yeah, on that stage with all
- 3:48Speaker 3: that on the table. Yeah, incredible.
- 3:50Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a big enough deal. In the fourth
- 3:53Speaker 7: quarter that Palmer finally put down her iPad.
- 3:56Speaker 3: It it was like, I think I need to watch
- 3:57Speaker 3: this game.
- 3:59Speaker 7: I was like, oh, you've welcome to the world. I'm
- 4:02Speaker 7: just over here losing my you know what, all alone.
- 4:04Speaker 7: And then she was like oh, and then she just
- 4:07Speaker 7: couldn't sit still. She was pacing, she was screaming. We
- 4:09Speaker 7: were jumping up and down. I mean, you would have
- 4:11Speaker 7: thought we won the Super Bowl if you were outside
- 4:13Speaker 7: our house and heard how loud just the two of
- 4:15Speaker 7: us were.
- 4:16Speaker 3: I think that your neighbors probably didn't notice it because
- 4:20Speaker 3: they were likely celebrating just as crazily. Probably it was
- 4:24Speaker 3: just an insane game, and certainly it did look lost
- 4:29Speaker 3: at one point in the contest, There's no question about it.
- 4:32Speaker 3: I'm not sure that Alan Kirk should have started folding
- 4:35Speaker 3: up the tent and started previewing what the Rams playoff
- 4:39Speaker 3: schedule is going to look like. I'm not sure. Maybe
- 4:41Speaker 3: that was a little premature, but it certainly was a case.
- 4:46Speaker 3: I mean, I spoke about this since the Seahawks lost
- 4:49Speaker 3: to the Rams twenty one to nineteen. I thought that
- 4:51Speaker 3: the Seahawks outplayed them and the Rams won the game.
- 4:55Speaker 3: We're even now because Staffords River four hundred and fifty
- 5:01Speaker 3: seven yards. Buka Nikoua was unstoppable and Yet even though
- 5:07Speaker 3: the Seahawks statistically just got outplayed, they're the ones that
- 5:12Speaker 3: ended up making the key pivotal plays down the stretch,
- 5:15Speaker 3: including three two point conversions that were converted and eventually
- 5:23Speaker 3: the game winner to Eric Saubert in overtime to win
- 5:27Speaker 3: at thirty eight to thirty seven. But you know what,
- 5:31Speaker 3: you know, even up, even up at this point, and
- 5:34Speaker 3: you lost a game at Carolina, So nanny, nanny booboo.
- 5:37Speaker 3: We're in first place right now and we control our
- 5:40Speaker 3: fate going forward as we pull off the win last night.
- 5:44Speaker 3: But certainly there was there. I mean, I wrote down
- 5:48Speaker 3: at the halftime part of the game, I wrote down, Man,
- 5:52Speaker 3: I can't believe we're getting dominated upfront. I just didn't
- 5:55Speaker 3: think that the Seahawks defense could ever get dominated upfront,
- 5:59Speaker 3: and the Rams were just bullsh last night. At the
- 6:03Speaker 3: beginning of the game, Matt Stafford had one hundred and
- 6:05Speaker 3: thirty passing yards the last time total that he faced
- 6:08Speaker 3: Mike McDonald. He had one hundred and twenty three in
- 6:10Speaker 3: the first quarter. So where were those adjustments? They did
- 6:14Speaker 3: eventually take place. The defense did step up in the
- 6:17Speaker 3: second half at some point, but still not to the
- 6:20Speaker 3: tune of kind of stemy ing Stafford like you did
- 6:23Speaker 3: in the Rams win the previous time. There was a
- 6:27Speaker 3: moment where and it was in the fourth quarter, a
- 6:31Speaker 3: second interception where I did have to write down, gosh am,
- 6:35Speaker 3: I gonna have to admit tomorrow that maybe the Rams
- 6:38Speaker 3: have Sam Darnold's number. I mean, a sample size of
- 6:41Speaker 3: three games seems awfully small for this to have been
- 6:44Speaker 3: a national narrative all week long. But man, that's a
- 6:48Speaker 3: lot of interceptions against one team over the course of
- 6:50Speaker 3: three games. So even wrote that down at one point.
- 6:54Speaker 3: But the game turned on Rashid Shaheed's punt return. It
- 6:59Speaker 3: changed the higher momentum, changed the entire complexion of the game,
- 7:04Speaker 3: and eventually that spark led to the Seahawks pulling off
- 7:08Speaker 3: I wouldn't say an impossible comeback, but certainly an improbable one.
- 7:12Speaker 6: Well, one they'd never done before, right, what was it?
- 7:15Speaker 5: One zero in one seventy two and trailing in the
- 7:19Speaker 5: fourth quarter by fifteen points or more. I mean, you
- 7:21Speaker 5: just that basically says they've never had done that before,
- 7:25Speaker 5: and so it's not impossible. We witnessed that last night.
- 7:28Speaker 5: That's what I love about sports is that there is
- 7:31Speaker 5: a chance that you could see something that they have
- 7:33Speaker 5: that team or a team no one has ever done
- 7:36Speaker 5: before on any given night. It didn't look like it
- 7:38Speaker 5: was going to go that way. I mean that when
- 7:40Speaker 5: Darnald threw that interception, And that's probably the thing I
- 7:43Speaker 5: would be happiest most about is Sam Darnald not having
- 7:47Speaker 5: to answer the questions had he thrown another pick. I mean,
- 7:50Speaker 5: he not only did not throw a pick when he
- 7:52Speaker 5: needed to down the stretch to drive down there and
- 7:54Speaker 5: get that touchdown in overtime and the two point conversion
- 7:59Speaker 5: to get that monkey off his back, but had he
- 8:02Speaker 5: thrown another pick in that situation, I mean, the conversation
- 8:05Speaker 5: that would be going around right now, Oh Jesus horrible and.
- 8:10Speaker 7: No, and it would have been we've got the wrong guy.
- 8:12Speaker 6: Yeah, it would have been.
- 8:14Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 8:14Speaker 6: I mean, you look at Twitter.
- 8:15Speaker 5: I didn't look at it all during the game, but
- 8:17Speaker 5: afterwards I ended up looking through there, and you see
- 8:19Speaker 5: people that were tweeting, you know, an hour before the
- 8:22Speaker 5: game was over, and it's like, you know, what, screw it,
- 8:24Speaker 5: go get to you know, San Darnold, guy's garbage. It's like,
- 8:29Speaker 5: so there was a lot of the negative stuff and
- 8:31Speaker 5: understandably so because they were absolutely dominant.
- 8:35Speaker 6: I mean, the Rams were dominant at moving the ball.
- 8:37Speaker 5: They they turned over the ball on downs their first
- 8:39Speaker 5: possession and then scored on the next six possessions. And
- 8:42Speaker 5: and yeah, the defense bowed up on a couple of
- 8:45Speaker 5: and for some field goals that got kind of helped
- 8:49Speaker 5: out with a penalty on the one that was a
- 8:51Speaker 5: touchdown taken back, and then they kicked the field goal
- 8:53Speaker 5: their second possession. But for the most part, it was
- 8:56Speaker 5: they were moving the ball up and down, passing and running,
- 8:59Speaker 5: doing doing whatever they wanted. They were moving the ball
- 9:02Speaker 5: on that defense, which we haven't seen anybody do, including
- 9:05Speaker 5: the Rams the first time that they played. And so
- 9:08Speaker 5: they did enough when they needed to. And for you know,
- 9:11Speaker 5: kudo's hat, tip of the hat to Sam Donald to
- 9:14Speaker 5: throw those interceptions some bad ones down when you have
- 9:17Speaker 5: points on the board, you're down, getting ready to punch
- 9:19Speaker 5: it in and you throw it right to that defensive
- 9:21Speaker 5: lineman on that one. There was times where you would
- 9:24Speaker 5: think a guy maybe starts to feel like, man, maybe
- 9:27Speaker 5: these guys have my number. It doesn't matter how many
- 9:29Speaker 5: people in the stadium or watching the game thought maybe
- 9:31Speaker 5: the Rams have his number. He didn't think the Rams
- 9:34Speaker 5: have his number. He's like, that's all right if I
- 9:36Speaker 5: get another chance. And that dime he threw to was
- 9:39Speaker 5: a Cooper cup, that one that is one of the
- 9:42Speaker 5: better throws.
- 9:43Speaker 3: One jsn as well over on the sideline, which was impossible.
- 9:47Speaker 3: And I think that's been the signature of Sam Donald
- 9:50Speaker 3: since he's put on this Seahawk uniform. All Right, he's
- 9:53Speaker 3: committed a lot of turnovers, but he really hasn't changed
- 9:58Speaker 3: the way he played for the first time. As I'm
- 10:00Speaker 3: writing down that note, Ashley, I'm sitting here thinking, oh, man,
- 10:04Speaker 3: what is this going to do to Sam? Do I
- 10:07Speaker 3: really have to admit that might maybe he has a
- 10:09Speaker 3: RAM issue? And yet down the stretch despite the two
- 10:13Speaker 3: bad interceptions, you know, maybe maybe he got jarred by
- 10:19Speaker 3: the failures in the game last night. But man, when
- 10:22Speaker 3: it mattered most, he stepped up and he ends up
- 10:24Speaker 3: throwing the game winning score. So I think that narrative
- 10:28Speaker 3: just ran a muck for weeks now. I even had
- 10:33Speaker 3: to hear it this morning on the drive end, still
- 10:36Speaker 3: doubting him because he still hasn't won a playoff game.
- 10:39Speaker 3: So I mean, this is.
- 10:41Speaker 7: He's played in one playoff game and he lost it.
- 10:43Speaker 7: He can't just the people can't just keep it's one
- 10:46Speaker 7: playoff game.
- 10:46Speaker 3: Well, I mean people are certainly nationally and maybe even
- 10:50Speaker 3: local fans that if you turned on him that quickly.
- 10:52Speaker 3: There was way too much booing last night, by the way,
- 10:55Speaker 3: for a team that went into that game eleven and
- 10:57Speaker 3: three when they were supposed to win eight and a
- 10:58Speaker 3: half games this year. But Sam Donald, you know, yes,
- 11:04Speaker 3: he was not very good in the first half of
- 11:06Speaker 3: his career, but Hugh Millan's done an excellent job all
- 11:08Speaker 3: season long illustrating this isn't the same Sam Donald. Guys
- 11:11Speaker 3: can change, Guys can become different quarterbacks through different experiences,
- 11:17Speaker 3: and sometimes the light bulb goes on later in certain guys' careers.
- 11:22Speaker 3: Rich Gannon's a perfect example of that one an MVP
- 11:25Speaker 3: after being a career backup, and maybe and that seems
- 11:28Speaker 3: to have happened to Sam Darnold. He's unlike ninety percent
- 11:30Speaker 3: of his games in the last two years, and you
- 11:33Speaker 3: can't hold his early failures against this version of Sam Donald.
- 11:37Speaker 3: This Sam Donald has way too much of a small
- 11:40Speaker 3: sample size and big game opportunities to be judged that way.
- 11:44Speaker 3: But certainly I did have to like give rise to
- 11:48Speaker 3: the consideration when he threw the second interception in a
- 11:53Speaker 3: really pivotal moment, as Bucky pointed out, And yet he
- 11:56Speaker 3: ends up pulling it out. And so hopefully we can
- 11:59Speaker 3: back off of this narrative. And uh, he still asked
- 12:02Speaker 3: to win a playoff game. He's still asked to end
- 12:04Speaker 3: up wrapping up the division. But certainly Sam Donald stepped
- 12:08Speaker 3: up when you absolutely had to have him last night
- 12:11Speaker 3: and got you to win.
- 12:12Speaker 7: Yeah, And that is the thing that that second interception
- 12:15Speaker 7: I also thought. I was like, oh gosh, please Sam not,
- 12:17Speaker 7: please don't do this because I really wanted him to
- 12:19Speaker 7: have a good game. I wanted him to recover from
- 12:22Speaker 7: the four interceptions. I mean, Kurt j.
- 12:24Speaker 3: Platt didn't see that guy, No he didn't. He did
- 12:26Speaker 3: not expect.
- 12:28Speaker 7: And yeah, they were baiting him to throw it where
- 12:31Speaker 7: he was good. Yeah, he fell for it. And that
- 12:33Speaker 7: was a good job on the Rams. I mean that
- 12:35Speaker 7: should be kudos to the Rams. Yep, on that play.
- 12:38Speaker 3: That's a Mike McDonald thing. That's the thing Mike McDonald would.
- 12:41Speaker 7: Yeah, it is, it is. And but as I kept
- 12:43Speaker 7: thinking that whole second half of the game. Here he
- 12:46Speaker 7: goes again, because he is not just like you said,
- 12:49Speaker 7: he was not afraid, he was not backing down. He
- 12:52Speaker 7: was not going to let any mistakes cloud his judgment
- 12:57Speaker 7: for how he needed to play in order for us
- 12:59Speaker 7: to even have a chance to win that game. And
- 13:01Speaker 7: he stepped up. And it wasn't just him. I mean,
- 13:03Speaker 7: we came out and we started quick. That was I mean,
- 13:06Speaker 7: to score a touchdown on our first possession. I was like, WHOA,
- 13:10Speaker 7: where's this been?
- 13:11Speaker 3: This is magical Walker's best game of the year. Yeah,
- 13:14Speaker 3: it was awesome. Don't know why he only had eleven
- 13:16Speaker 3: carries in it. Yeah, don't know why I only had
- 13:19Speaker 3: fourteen touches the way he was running last night. But
- 13:21Speaker 3: he played his best game. And look, I mean there
- 13:25Speaker 3: were a lot of things that changed there in the
- 13:27Speaker 3: second half, Like defensively. Herbstreet pointed it out, and he
- 13:32Speaker 3: pointed it out at the exact moment that I did.
- 13:35Speaker 3: As much energy that went into this game and as
- 13:37Speaker 3: much hype that went into this game, the Seahawks really defensively,
- 13:41Speaker 3: I didn't feel started playing like rabid dogs until they
- 13:45Speaker 3: absolutely had to, until they were backed into the corner,
- 13:48Speaker 3: and Herbstreet pointed it out. I thought at the exact
- 13:51Speaker 3: time that he should have, like, this intensity has changed.
- 13:55Speaker 3: It's changed with the fans, yep, in the side the building,
- 13:58Speaker 3: and it's changed on the defensive side of the football.
- 14:02Speaker 3: And they were they were getting pushed around for most
- 14:05Speaker 3: of the game. And when it's as if when they
- 14:08Speaker 3: lost all of the members of their secondary and I
- 14:11Speaker 3: can't even believe how many injuries that we suffered and
- 14:14Speaker 3: still somehow and the secondary and somehow pulled off that win.
- 14:17Speaker 3: But it's as if when they realized, man, we can't
- 14:20Speaker 3: lose one more guy and those guys need our help,
- 14:25Speaker 3: that they took it to another gear. Yeah, it felt
- 14:29Speaker 3: to me like one of the most intense front sevens
- 14:32Speaker 3: in the National Football League all season long needed to
- 14:36Speaker 3: absolutely be backed into the corner to raise their game
- 14:39Speaker 3: to the level that was necessary to somehow slow down Stafford,
- 14:44Speaker 3: get pressure on him and give yourself a chance, give
- 14:48Speaker 3: Sam a chance to bring the offense back and win
- 14:51Speaker 3: this game. And it happened just in the nick of time.
- 14:53Speaker 3: The intensity definitely ratcheted up on the defensive side.
- 14:57Speaker 5: Well yeah, I mean when they end up you know,
- 14:59Speaker 5: when the went down and made it thirty to fourteen.
- 15:02Speaker 5: That's when most people, including most Seahawk fans, thought the
- 15:05Speaker 5: game was over, and understandably so, there was no there
- 15:08Speaker 5: was nothing in sight that looked like you were going
- 15:11Speaker 5: to be able to stop them, let alone be able
- 15:14Speaker 5: to just get you know, sixteen points to tie that.
- 15:16Speaker 6: Thing up in the fourth quarter.
- 15:19Speaker 5: And you know, I mean, you hadn't scored you know,
- 15:21Speaker 5: that many points in the three quarters leading up to that,
- 15:23Speaker 5: or three and a half quarters leading up to that,
- 15:24Speaker 5: So it did feel like, Okay, this is kind of
- 15:29Speaker 5: all for not like you just didn't show up in
- 15:31Speaker 5: the biggest game of the season. And yet the part
- 15:34Speaker 5: of the team that has been the identity of the
- 15:37Speaker 5: team is the defense and the defense. Finally, I think
- 15:40Speaker 5: it was Ernest Jones said afterwards and his little thing
- 15:44Speaker 5: like what happened to you guys? And he goes, oh,
- 15:46Speaker 5: they started laughing in our face. They thought this s
- 15:50Speaker 5: was over, yep, And they don't know that we were
- 15:52Speaker 5: going to play till the end. Now, you sometimes don't
- 15:55Speaker 5: get to play three and a half quarters of getting
- 15:57Speaker 5: dominated by a team that I mean, their offense just
- 16:00Speaker 5: flat out dominated our defense yesterday. And yet if you
- 16:04Speaker 5: can find a way. I don't want to say. I
- 16:07Speaker 5: don't think that that McVeigh or Stafford put their feet
- 16:12Speaker 5: up on the desk and just stopped trying.
- 16:15Speaker 3: You know.
- 16:15Speaker 5: They I think they understood, like, let's all right, we're
- 16:17Speaker 5: putting it on them, let's finish this whole thing. But
- 16:19Speaker 5: the defense did step up. They said, well, we got
- 16:22Speaker 5: to do our job. We we better start doing our
- 16:24Speaker 5: job now or we've got no chance. We give up
- 16:26Speaker 5: any more points. At this point in time, it almost
- 16:28Speaker 5: makes it insurmountable. And so they did, to the degree
- 16:32Speaker 5: of basically holding them to that long ish field goal
- 16:35Speaker 5: that they ended up missing.
- 16:36Speaker 6: And that was it again.
- 16:38Speaker 5: It was after that that punt return, it was like
- 16:40Speaker 5: the momentum shifted, the defense kicked into gear. They did enough,
- 16:44Speaker 5: start playing better, Yeah, Sharper, they did enough, and the.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Receivers started making ridiculous catches.
- 16:50Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 16:50Speaker 3: I mean, it just kind of all came together.
- 16:52Speaker 7: That catch, that Cooper Cup catch that then was a fumble,
- 16:56Speaker 7: was a ridiculous catch. I mean, the pass was great,
- 16:58Speaker 7: the catch was great, and it was It's like when
- 17:00Speaker 7: he fumbled out, I thought, oh my god, no, we
- 17:03Speaker 7: had such a chance at that moment to really see
- 17:05Speaker 7: the momentum going into halftime.
- 17:07Speaker 3: You know, I think that's a great point, and I
- 17:09Speaker 3: want to I'll point it out now in case it
- 17:11Speaker 3: doesn't come back up, because and it probably will, let's
- 17:14Speaker 3: face it. But I mean, it said all day yesterday,
- 17:19Speaker 3: you just can't lose the turnover battle by three or more. Yeah,
- 17:22Speaker 3: they lost the turnover battle by three or more. And
- 17:24Speaker 3: not only did they lose the turnover battle by three
- 17:27Speaker 3: or more and ended up winning the game, those three
- 17:30Speaker 3: turnovers could not have come at worse times.
- 17:33Speaker 7: Worst, I mean the worst times.
- 17:35Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's like you look like all three
- 17:37Speaker 3: times you had seized the momentum.
- 17:39Speaker 7: Yep, and you were moving the ball, well, moving.
- 17:42Speaker 3: The ball, getting ready to score and despite the rams
- 17:46Speaker 3: kind of shoving it down your throat for the first half,
- 17:49Speaker 3: it looked like three different times you had overcome that
- 17:52Speaker 3: for reversing it. Okay, here we go, You're getting ready
- 17:55Speaker 3: to score. And then not only do you commit the
- 17:58Speaker 3: three turnovers and they didn't commit any you just committed
- 18:01Speaker 3: them at the worst possible times, and the cup fumble
- 18:05Speaker 3: is included in that. So for you to overcome all
- 18:08Speaker 3: of that and somehow win the game, you probably did
- 18:10Speaker 3: have to have a special teams a special special teams play,
- 18:15Speaker 3: and you probably did need a bounce of the ball
- 18:18Speaker 3: here every once in a while. But yeah, I think
- 18:20Speaker 3: Bucky's right that once that momentum was officially seized, because
- 18:25Speaker 3: I wrote it down after the Rashid punt return and
- 18:29Speaker 3: then the stoppage, they got the ball back and we stopped,
- 18:31Speaker 3: and then I wrote down the top of my sheet,
- 18:33Speaker 3: chance to tie all the momentum in the world. And
- 18:37Speaker 3: when you got that ball back, it's it's like everything
- 18:41Speaker 3: got better. Defense got more intense, Sam Darnold got sharper,
- 18:46Speaker 3: playmakers were making plays, and certainly, you know, you benefited
- 18:53Speaker 3: a little bit from the bounce of the ball, which
- 18:55Speaker 3: you probably needed to have happened for you as well
- 18:58Speaker 3: to overcome a sixteen point deficit against a potentially great
- 19:01Speaker 3: team in the fourth quarter. And we're going to get
- 19:03Speaker 3: into that bounce of the ball because it's going to
- 19:05Speaker 3: be a big topic of conversation. We got to talk
- 19:07Speaker 3: about the two point tries here today, and especially the
- 19:11Speaker 3: one that has caused the most conversation and maybe even controversy.
- 19:15Speaker 3: So we'll talk about that in our next segment. But
- 19:17Speaker 3: let's find out what's on tap for the entire show today?
- 19:23Speaker 3: What's on TEP?
- 19:25Speaker 6: What's untech all right?
- 19:26Speaker 3: Seahawks thirty seven Ram or thirty eight Rams thirty seven
- 19:30Speaker 3: in overtime, Most incredible game of the year. The Seahawks
- 19:33Speaker 3: improved a twelve and three. They do take over first
- 19:36Speaker 3: place in the NFC West. They are in control of
- 19:39Speaker 3: getting the one seed now and home field advantage throughout
- 19:43Speaker 3: the NFC playoffs, which is a monstrous advantage always has been,
- 19:47Speaker 3: even more so now that fourteen teams make the playoffs.
- 19:51Speaker 3: They'll play at Carolina next week and at San Francisco,
- 19:54Speaker 3: so it's you know, the Hayes not in the barn.
- 19:56Speaker 3: There's still a lot of work to be done. The
- 19:59Speaker 3: Los ange Angelus Rams will play at Atlanta next week
- 20:02Speaker 3: and they'll be taking on Arizona in the final week,
- 20:05Speaker 3: so they have an easier schedule the rest of the way.
- 20:07Speaker 3: Pooka Nikua, who caused all sorts of headlines going in
- 20:12Speaker 3: to the game last night forty eight hours before, caused
- 20:15Speaker 3: more last night. He tweeted immediately after the game, See
- 20:19Speaker 3: I told you the rest do things intentionally to help
- 20:22Speaker 3: teams win games, something to that effect. It's not word
- 20:25Speaker 3: for word, but they couldn't even get it erased before
- 20:30Speaker 3: it turned into a story.
- 20:32Speaker 7: It's everywhere.
- 20:32Speaker 3: I mean, it got to be a story before Sean
- 20:35Speaker 3: McVay could even make his way to the podium. He
- 20:37Speaker 3: didn't even know about it and got blindsided with it
- 20:40Speaker 3: from reporters who didn't ask about blowing a sixteen point lead.
- 20:43Speaker 3: Their first six questions were about Poka Nakua and McVeigh
- 20:47Speaker 3: nearly lost his mind. We'll talk about that coming up
- 20:50Speaker 3: here in a little bit. Humel it'll be with us
- 20:52Speaker 3: at eight. Mike holm'er gonna be with us at nine,
- 20:54Speaker 3: Greg Bell will be with us at seven. O five
- 20:57Speaker 3: should also mention it is a college football playoffs starting
- 21:00Speaker 3: tonight Bama at Oklahoma, and an entire weekend of NFL
- 21:05Speaker 3: and college football action. And finally, Cracking did lose again
- 21:08Speaker 3: last night to the Calgary Flames, four to two. They
- 21:11Speaker 3: lost ten out of eleven games, all right, so pretty
- 21:14Speaker 3: much the entire show today is going to be about
- 21:16Speaker 3: this incredible game coming up. On the other side, we'll
- 21:19Speaker 3: hear of some audio, we'll hear from Ernest Jones, We're
- 21:21Speaker 3: going to hear from Sean McVeigh and we'll talk about
- 21:24Speaker 3: those two point tries. Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
- 21:29Speaker 9: Thirty seven thirty six rams.
- 21:32Speaker 3: With a one point lead, you're in.
- 21:34Speaker 9: Overtime for the topspots in the NFC. West on the
- 21:37Speaker 9: line and the inside track to the one seed in
- 21:41Speaker 9: the NFC. All comes down to display. Tonight's in Seattle.
- 21:45Speaker 9: Here we go, the Seahawks going for two. Donald's standing
- 21:49Speaker 9: on the left, Hash takes the shot done, snap three
- 21:52Speaker 9: cent Crop looking looking.
- 21:54Speaker 3: Fired on the mouth, shots bias, Tonnan, Eric Summers the
- 22:00Speaker 3: god that no one.
- 22:02Speaker 9: Expected, and the Seahawks walk it off and.
- 22:06Speaker 3: Sort at the top of the NFCUS with the thirty
- 22:10Speaker 3: eight thirty.
- 22:12Speaker 9: Seven over Ton woinds and I hear and see at on.
- 22:17Speaker 3: Wow good call. Yeah, I've got you do a great
- 22:22Speaker 3: job on that call. Kate Scott can't help but be
- 22:25Speaker 3: Doc Brown when I say her name, Kate Scott.
- 22:30Speaker 7: Now I'm picturing him.
- 22:32Speaker 3: Hair's all crazy Westwood one. What a game, unbelievable. I
- 22:39Speaker 3: you know, I wrote down my game notes and then
- 22:41Speaker 3: every time we do a Monday morning quarterback, and we'll
- 22:43Speaker 3: do that today with you, for with you and coach.
- 22:47Speaker 3: Then I do notes like topics that we should discuss.
- 22:50Speaker 3: I have eight pages of nothing but eighty eight topics
- 22:54Speaker 3: that we could discuss, and that's just flying through it.
- 22:57Speaker 3: I'm sure I could go deeper, eighty eight different topics
- 23:00Speaker 3: that we could discuss with Greg, Coach and Hugh on
- 23:04Speaker 3: today's edition a Monday Morning Quarterback. That's how loaded that
- 23:09Speaker 3: game was last night. A huge win for the Seahawks,
- 23:12Speaker 3: come from behind, not impossible, but surely improbable, recovering from
- 23:18Speaker 3: a sixteen point fourth quarter deficit to win in overtime
- 23:21Speaker 3: thirty eight to thirty seven and seize control of the
- 23:25Speaker 3: NFC West and most likely the number one seed in
- 23:29Speaker 3: the NFC Playoffs. Still a lot of work to be done, though,
- 23:32Speaker 3: and we certainly will discuss that coming up in our
- 23:36Speaker 3: last three hours of the show here today. Carolina and
- 23:40Speaker 3: San Francisco the next two opponents, but last night thirty
- 23:43Speaker 3: eight thirty seven overtime winners. Let's take a look at
- 23:46Speaker 3: the Frostbrewed Corps Light Choose Chill headlines here on a
- 23:49Speaker 3: football Friday, the NFL Week number sixteen. We get to
- 23:54Speaker 3: watch now stress free this weekend. Of course, that was
- 23:57Speaker 3: hardly the case last night, but Saturday football Philadelphia at Washington,
- 24:02Speaker 3: Green Bay at Chicago. So NFL Saturday football starts, and
- 24:06Speaker 3: then of course Sundays lineup. You got Tampa Bay at Carolina.
- 24:09Speaker 3: Perhaps for the Division there you've got Pittsburgh at Detroit
- 24:13Speaker 3: in the afternoon, along with Jacksonville and Denver, and then
- 24:16Speaker 3: the Sunday night game will be the Patriots at the
- 24:18Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. College football playoffs starts this weekend tonight, Bama
- 24:23Speaker 3: at Oklahoma gets it going, and then three games on Saturday.
- 24:27Speaker 3: Strangely enough, the best of the three is the early
- 24:31Speaker 3: game at nine am. I would have thought they would
- 24:33Speaker 3: have put that in primetime. Maybe they're just trying to
- 24:35Speaker 3: avoid going up against the National Football League. But Miami
- 24:39Speaker 3: and Texas A and M will kick off at nine
- 24:41Speaker 3: am tomorrow, or as they say, down at Texas A
- 24:44Speaker 3: and M nine A and M. Thank you, thank you
- 24:49Speaker 3: for laughing at that. Really bad.
- 24:50Speaker 7: It was really bad, but that's why it was really funny.
- 24:53Speaker 3: Crack and lose their tenth of eleven games in Calgary
- 24:57Speaker 3: last night. Four to two was the final score. All right,
- 25:00Speaker 3: I know, let's talk about these eighty eight topics with
- 25:02Speaker 3: Greg Bell right now.
- 25:03Speaker 8: With the Bell tolls.
- 25:05Speaker 1: It must be seven o'clock and time for twelfth Man
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- 25:21Speaker 1: Now with twelf Man News, here's Greg Bell with Chuck
- 25:24Speaker 1: and Bud.
- 25:26Speaker 3: How about that, Greg Bell? How about that? Now that's
- 25:30Speaker 3: not your run of the middle game you've covered in
- 25:32Speaker 3: your career, right there?
- 25:35Speaker 8: No good morning. I was coming up from the press
- 25:38Speaker 8: bucks late last night and Ethan mcreynold's younger reporter for
- 25:42Speaker 8: Box thirteen here in Seattle, he asked me where that
- 25:47Speaker 8: ranked of all the games I've covered, as far as
- 25:49Speaker 8: just how crazy it was and expected turning and them winning.
- 25:55Speaker 8: And the first thing I could think of was the
- 25:57Speaker 8: two thousand and January twenty fifteen see title game when
- 26:02Speaker 8: they were down sixteen to nothing, down sixteen points, But
- 26:04Speaker 8: that was in the third quarter against the Green Bay Packers,
- 26:07Speaker 8: and then I'm going to overtime and winning it. There
- 26:09Speaker 8: were a lot of parallels to that, but that comeback
- 26:12Speaker 8: began in the third quarter and it was sixteen to
- 26:15Speaker 8: nothing at the time. Of course, Russell Wilson, the Jermaine
- 26:19Speaker 8: Curse and overtime they sent him to the Super Bowl.
- 26:22Speaker 8: It was the Patriots, and then the Patriots Super Bowl
- 26:26Speaker 8: down in Glendale, super Bowl forty nine. Probably, we'll put
- 26:31Speaker 8: it this way. I probably wrote the second because I
- 26:34Speaker 8: write a running game story that I have to file
- 26:35Speaker 8: as soon as the game ends, and my goal is
- 26:37Speaker 8: to have it on the internet five minutes after the
- 26:39Speaker 8: final whistle. I did that again last night, running it right,
- 26:43Speaker 8: so you run the right to the game story as
- 26:45Speaker 8: the game is happening. That was probably the second worst
- 26:48Speaker 8: game story in my career yesterday. The first one was
- 26:51Speaker 8: the Seahawks Patriots Super Bowl and how crazy that ended.
- 26:57Speaker 8: It was last night was largely inexplicable. But Chuck, I
- 27:03Speaker 8: would I would submit to you that this is an
- 27:07Speaker 8: example of what Mike McDonald's been building for two seasons.
- 27:11Speaker 8: The chasing edges, the intangibles, the one hundred percent participation
- 27:16Speaker 8: in voluntary OTAs back in the spring, the brotherhood that
- 27:19Speaker 8: they have. People say, why do you write about them?
- 27:21Speaker 8: Shadow boxing as it did in the Riley Mills stores.
- 27:23Speaker 8: The lead to Ridley Mills story last week because all
- 27:28Speaker 8: that stuff, the intangibles, the brotherhood, the tightness they're relying
- 27:31Speaker 8: on each other, the belief, the connectedness. That stuff matters.
- 27:37Speaker 8: If they didn't it didn't matter, then they wouldn't stend
- 27:40Speaker 8: ma Donal wonldn't spend time chasing edges. But those are
- 27:43Speaker 8: the last night was a chasing edges gaming. You need
- 27:48Speaker 8: those things in your favor for a game. I got
- 27:50Speaker 8: to go your way. It just doesn't happen. There has
- 27:53Speaker 8: to be some root cause for them to still have
- 27:55Speaker 8: belief for Sam Donald to be pretty much unshakeable. My
- 28:00Speaker 8: binoculars on him after both interceptions, he didn't change at all.
- 28:06Speaker 8: He did change down in Inglewood in four interceptions last month,
- 28:09Speaker 8: he slammed his helmet on the top of the bench.
- 28:11Speaker 8: Is the only time I've seen really any emotion on
- 28:13Speaker 8: the field with him at all. After his third interception,
- 28:15Speaker 8: he slammed helmet on top of the bench. But that
- 28:19Speaker 8: was it. And last night the guys A Lucas and
- 28:22Speaker 8: others were talking about he did not change at all
- 28:25Speaker 8: and they were looking at him after that second interception.
- 28:28Speaker 8: Down three to fourteen and nine minutes left me through
- 28:31Speaker 8: the interceptions red and unflappable. The same, and there's something
- 28:38Speaker 8: validating to the team when their leader, the guy who
- 28:41Speaker 8: has the ball and everyone making the decisions, looks unfazed
- 28:45Speaker 8: by the worst that just happened, and that mattered in
- 28:49Speaker 8: the end that Donald came back and brushed off of
- 28:53Speaker 8: that if he had not thrown two interceptions. So my
- 28:57Speaker 8: point is the tangibles matter, and the edges do matter.
- 29:02Speaker 8: That's why Mike chase them so much. I can't really
- 29:05Speaker 8: explain why else they would win that game last night
- 29:07Speaker 8: other than that.
- 29:09Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a lot of things that they had
- 29:11Speaker 5: to chase to find a way to.
- 29:13Speaker 6: Win that one, and yet they did. And I'm with you.
- 29:16Speaker 5: I think Sam Darnold rising to the occasion in spite
- 29:19Speaker 5: of a couple of bad throws was probably one of
- 29:23Speaker 5: the more important things for this team moving forward, because
- 29:27Speaker 5: we know what we'd be talking about had he done
- 29:29Speaker 5: it one more time, and you know, instead of instead
- 29:32Speaker 5: of converting and getting that thing, getting the job done defensively, yeah,
- 29:37Speaker 5: you end up winning. I think that the idea our
- 29:41Speaker 5: take on this show, or at least Chucks and I agreed.
- 29:44Speaker 5: After the first meeting, was felt like the Seahawks might
- 29:47Speaker 5: outplayed the Rams and yet they didn't win. This one
- 29:50Speaker 5: felt like the Rams most certainly outplayed the Seahawks, at
- 29:54Speaker 5: least for the first three and a half quarters or so.
- 29:57Speaker 5: I think it was nine minutes and thirty nine seconds left.
- 29:59Speaker 5: Was after they'd went up thirty to fourteen. He throws
- 30:02Speaker 5: that interception. I think pretty much everybody's like, well, this
- 30:05Speaker 5: was an embarrassing performance, and yet they forced I think
- 30:08Speaker 5: five punts the rest of They missed the field going one,
- 30:12Speaker 5: but they forced them to punt I think four more
- 30:13Speaker 5: times in the rest of regulation. So what switched is
- 30:17Speaker 5: It can't just be that they read something on a
- 30:19Speaker 5: board or were talked about chasing edge.
- 30:21Speaker 6: Just something changed defensively.
- 30:24Speaker 8: I asked Ernest Jones that very question. I said, well,
- 30:26Speaker 8: how did you get three three and outs in a
- 30:28Speaker 8: row against a team that ran up five hundred and
- 30:31Speaker 8: eighty one yards on you. Their quarterback ran for three
- 30:34Speaker 8: for fourth seventy nine, Kuka and Akou went for two
- 30:38Speaker 8: twenty five receivements, the most in eight years against Well
- 30:42Speaker 8: changed in those three drives, because you're right, without those
- 30:44Speaker 8: three drives, the game's over. If the Rams go down
- 30:47Speaker 8: and score any points at that point in the fourth quarter.
- 30:50Speaker 8: With nine minutes left, the sixteen point game becomes a
- 30:53Speaker 8: three score game. And I actually had to side early
- 30:57Speaker 8: in the fourth quarter when the Rams scored to make
- 30:58Speaker 8: it third or fourteen. Sean McVay might not go for
- 31:01Speaker 8: two there to make it thirty one fourteen to make
- 31:04Speaker 8: it a three score game. It went through my head.
- 31:06Speaker 8: I bet it went through his. But they were so
- 31:09Speaker 8: dominant at that point he probably thought they didn't need it.
- 31:12Speaker 8: The three scored, sixteen point three score game didn't matter,
- 31:16Speaker 8: but it did. And Ernest Jones said that they were
- 31:20Speaker 8: miscommunicating on deep passes over the middle. There was a
- 31:25Speaker 8: grand canyon chasm between Ernest Jones and no linebacker in
- 31:29Speaker 8: the safeties behind him. Actually, time and again kept exploiting
- 31:35Speaker 8: about a fifteen seventeen yard window from the line of
- 31:38Speaker 8: scrimmys down the middle of the field, and I must
- 31:40Speaker 8: have completed fifteen passes that way. Of course, he completed
- 31:44Speaker 8: twenty nine for the seed game. It was twenty sever
- 31:46Speaker 8: or twenty nine passes on the season on the night.
- 31:48Speaker 8: But he said that there was miscommunication, which got worse
- 31:55Speaker 8: when Kobe Bryant went out injured early in the second half,
- 31:58Speaker 8: because then Tyle came in, so there was a disconnect
- 32:03Speaker 8: between the deeper coverage and they underneath intermediate zones and
- 32:07Speaker 8: they crushed it. And Jones said that they finally shored
- 32:11Speaker 8: that up on the three straight. That it would also
- 32:12Speaker 8: help guys is that they stopped started limiting Kyron Williams.
- 32:17Speaker 8: It looked like he was onto it. It was way
- 32:19Speaker 8: to one hundred and fifty yard night in the first
- 32:20Speaker 8: half rushing the ball. And when they limited him, third
- 32:24Speaker 8: down became third and eight and nine again instead of
- 32:26Speaker 8: third and two. And they talked in the locker room
- 32:29Speaker 8: after the game, including Ernest Jones and a couple of
- 32:31Speaker 8: the defensive linemen, talked about now Stafford had to hold
- 32:35Speaker 8: onto the ball longer, as Jones said, he had to
- 32:37Speaker 8: wait for his receivers to run longer routes in the
- 32:40Speaker 8: first half when it was third and two and third
- 32:42Speaker 8: and one all the time, because they were getting nine
- 32:43Speaker 8: yards on first and second down. Then he couldn't get
- 32:46Speaker 8: to the quarterback because the ball was getting out so quickly.
- 32:49Speaker 8: But if Kuka Naku was running a ten yard route
- 32:51Speaker 8: on third and nine, that's a lot different than a
- 32:53Speaker 8: three yard route on third and two. And then they
- 32:56Speaker 8: started affecting Stafford a little bit, and he saw some
- 32:59Speaker 8: more inaccurate throws in the fourth quarter. Stopping Williams in
- 33:04Speaker 8: their plays on the first down really contributed to getting
- 33:06Speaker 8: off the field. So there wasn't two to third and
- 33:09Speaker 8: two was killing them. As Mike McDonald said, you can't
- 33:12Speaker 8: spot rush the quarterback on third and two, and that's
- 33:14Speaker 8: exactly what their problem was. Most again, a couple numbers there,
- 33:17Speaker 8: a couple of numbers that want to excuse me, just want
- 33:19Speaker 8: to point out before last night, in the last fifty
- 33:23Speaker 8: years in the NFL, if an offense had four hundred
- 33:26Speaker 8: plus yards, didn't turn the ball over, didn't take a sack,
- 33:29Speaker 8: and their defense had three takeaways. The Rams did all that.
- 33:33Speaker 8: Since nineteen seventy five, teams were seventy nine to zero
- 33:35Speaker 8: in the league. Last night was the seventy nine to one.
- 33:38Speaker 8: Now that's the first time in fifty years an offense
- 33:41Speaker 8: did what the Rams did, a defense did what the
- 33:44Speaker 8: Rams did, and they lost.
- 33:45Speaker 6: Wow.
- 33:46Speaker 8: The second thing was Dehawks going into the fourth quarter
- 33:51Speaker 8: last night when they trailed by sixteen or more points
- 33:54Speaker 8: in the fourth quarter in their fifty year history, do
- 33:57Speaker 8: you not how many times that happened one hundred and
- 33:59Speaker 8: fifty five times into last night. Last night was one
- 34:01Speaker 8: hundred and fifty six times the Seahawks had trailed by
- 34:03Speaker 8: sixteen and more points in the fourth quarter. Do you
- 34:05Speaker 8: guys know how many times until last night the Seahawks
- 34:07Speaker 8: had won those games?
- 34:09Speaker 6: Zero? Zero.
- 34:11Speaker 8: Last night was the first time in fifty years history
- 34:14Speaker 8: of Seahawks football that they won a game trailing by
- 34:16Speaker 8: sixteen and more points in the fourth quarter. That's how
- 34:19Speaker 8: preposterous last night was.
- 34:22Speaker 3: It was awesome. Greg Beli is with US Seahawks Insider
- 34:26Speaker 3: from the News Tribune. His complete coverage of last night's
- 34:29Speaker 3: game in the Seahawks all season long available at the
- 34:31Speaker 3: Newstribune dot com. We have to ask you about the
- 34:33Speaker 3: two point tries, three of them, all three of them successful,
- 34:39Speaker 3: the forgotten one to Cooper Cup, then the most interesting
- 34:44Speaker 3: two point conversion in football history that will be talked about,
- 34:48Speaker 3: I'm sure for years to come. And then the game
- 34:50Speaker 3: winner two sobers and you're going around talking about the
- 34:54Speaker 3: two point tries. What did you come away with.
- 35:00Speaker 8: Was MacDonald donald Nobody knew that that was a backward pass.
- 35:04Speaker 8: That was the one that tied up thirty to thirty
- 35:06Speaker 8: that was supposed to be a forward pass. It was
- 35:08Speaker 8: a bubble screen outside and Jared Verus, the Rams edge rusher,
- 35:12Speaker 8: jumped up and knocked it down. But when he did,
- 35:16Speaker 8: Donald threw it just behind parallel. The rule is if
- 35:22Speaker 8: it's backwards at all, it's a fumble, but if it's
- 35:24Speaker 8: parallel or forward, it's a forward pass. So it was
- 35:28Speaker 8: rolled parallel to the line of scrimmage. But if you
- 35:30Speaker 8: really broke it down. And Amazon Prime, because they owned
- 35:34Speaker 8: the world and they print money, they had these great
- 35:36Speaker 8: television cameras that the angle was perfect. It was right
- 35:40Speaker 8: along the four or five yard line to show that
- 35:42Speaker 8: he threw it from his hand was about the four
- 35:45Speaker 8: and a half and the ball was deflected by Verse
- 35:48Speaker 8: at about the four. The crazy thing about that play
- 35:51Speaker 8: is nobody thought it was a fumble, and every one
- 35:55Speaker 8: thought it was in past. The officials rule bad. So
- 35:57Speaker 8: the ball was just laying in the end zone idly.
- 36:00Speaker 8: I mean, it was just there like a nerf ball
- 36:02Speaker 8: in someone's backyard. They left there from last weekend's play,
- 36:05Speaker 8: and charbon Ay just walked over to pick it up
- 36:08Speaker 8: as if he was doing the official favor given it
- 36:10Speaker 8: to him. He wasn't recover it. He just think about this,
- 36:16Speaker 8: What if that ball had not spun. What if the
- 36:19Speaker 8: grains of the artificial turf were not in such a way,
- 36:24Speaker 8: the wetness of having rained for six weeks here in
- 36:27Speaker 8: Seattle did not make the turf in such a way
- 36:31Speaker 8: to make that ball spin into inside the goal line.
- 36:35Speaker 8: What if it spun him he landed on the one
- 36:38Speaker 8: and a half or half inch slide and then Charboney
- 36:41Speaker 8: picked it up because he just walked after he picked
- 36:43Speaker 8: it up. He just walked along the goal line. What
- 36:47Speaker 8: if he was on the half yard line, Yeah, that
- 36:49Speaker 8: wouldn't have been. That wouldn't have been to That's how
- 36:52Speaker 8: ridiculous that play was. That was just fate that the
- 36:55Speaker 8: ball happened to spin at that exact location and Charbonay
- 36:58Speaker 8: just happened to pick it up like he found a
- 37:00Speaker 8: penny on the street. If he had picked it up
- 37:04Speaker 8: outside the goal line, that none of that would have happened, right. Crazy.
- 37:08Speaker 8: Other part of that is they were lined up to
- 37:10Speaker 8: kick a kickoff. Everybody was on the field, and that's
- 37:14Speaker 8: what McVeigh had an issue with. After the game, he said,
- 37:18Speaker 8: wait a minute, could you how could New York be
- 37:20Speaker 8: allowed to stop the whole thing, the process and everything
- 37:23Speaker 8: when the officials and everybody had already moved on. We'd
- 37:25Speaker 8: moved on. We were lined up to kick off, and
- 37:29Speaker 8: Matthew Stafford after the game said, wait a minute. I thought,
- 37:31Speaker 8: you can't advance a fumble and you could the Holy
- 37:34Speaker 8: Roller roll from Dave Casper in the seventies with the
- 37:36Speaker 8: Raiders in the last two minutes, and well, it wasn't
- 37:39Speaker 8: last two minutes for Matthew Stafford's case, and nobody advanced
- 37:43Speaker 8: that fumble. No one played it forward. It wasn't It
- 37:47Speaker 8: wasn't considered a forward fumble. It was considered a backward path,
- 37:50Speaker 8: if that makes sense. So nobody possessed it enough to
- 37:54Speaker 8: make it a forward fumble, if does make sense. I
- 37:57Speaker 8: think that was what the ruling was. But yes, but
- 38:01Speaker 8: that's not exactly why replay was instituting in the NFL
- 38:05Speaker 8: to correct. But if you go by the clear and
- 38:07Speaker 8: obvious mistake standard, it was right because the officials said
- 38:12Speaker 8: it was incomplete and that's a two point play. And
- 38:15Speaker 8: by the way, it was not challenged by McDonald. He
- 38:17Speaker 8: had no idea. All two point plays, all scoring plays
- 38:21Speaker 8: in the NFL are automatically reviewed, which is how that
- 38:23Speaker 8: whole thing came up in the first place. Man, there's something
- 38:26Speaker 8: else I wanted to mention about. Oh, let's talk about
- 38:29Speaker 8: Salbert's two point play. When they lined up, they had
- 38:32Speaker 8: three wide receivers to the right, including the tight end
- 38:35Speaker 8: AJ Barner. They were overloading the right side, and then
- 38:38Speaker 8: sure enough Sam Donald was looking at way the whole way,
- 38:41Speaker 8: Eric Salbert was tight at left end. After the game,
- 38:45Speaker 8: McDonald said that, Soalbert's the fourth read. On that I
- 38:47Speaker 8: would argue he probably is the fifth read because the
- 38:50Speaker 8: fourth was was Sharbon a leaking out of the backfield.
- 38:53Speaker 8: If he didn't have anyone to block, I'm pretty sure
- 38:55Speaker 8: Charbone would have been the option above Salbert. Salbert is
- 38:59Speaker 8: a nine year career blocking tight end special teams as
- 39:04Speaker 8: who was on his eight team and nine years whom
- 39:06Speaker 8: the Seahawks cut a month ago and brought back to
- 39:09Speaker 8: give him a new contract. The way his contract was structured,
- 39:12Speaker 8: he wasn't going to be available to the team next
- 39:15Speaker 8: year they were a new signing. It was there were
- 39:18Speaker 8: some things beyond the fact it was just a one
- 39:20Speaker 8: year contract. There was some technicalities there on why they
- 39:22Speaker 8: cut him and brought him back to get him a
- 39:23Speaker 8: new deal for the rest of this year and next year.
- 39:27Speaker 8: But the fight, the bottom line is they cut him
- 39:30Speaker 8: and then brought him back. He's like the third or
- 39:33Speaker 8: fourth string tight end even though he's really second or
- 39:35Speaker 8: third on depth truckers of his blocking. But his job
- 39:38Speaker 8: was to bog and he did. He blocked, He blockedy
- 39:40Speaker 8: blocky blocked, blind, gave Darnold enough time to look through
- 39:47Speaker 8: five guys with the game on the line, and the
- 39:50Speaker 8: rams shows not the Blitzer pressure, but to cover because
- 39:53Speaker 8: they thought, we can cover this end zone better than
- 39:56Speaker 8: we can the whole field. Let's put seven men in
- 39:58Speaker 8: coverage in this three five yard zone into the end zone.
- 40:02Speaker 8: But they never saw Solburn. If you look at the
- 40:05Speaker 8: replay of that play, nobody covered him because he blocked
- 40:08Speaker 8: and blocked for so long that they thought he was
- 40:10Speaker 8: a blocker and they we're not going to devote the
- 40:12Speaker 8: cover got him. Yeah, that was crazy.
- 40:14Speaker 3: He almost looked like he almost looked like guilty, like
- 40:16Speaker 3: you just slipped in there, like, hey, I'm kind of
- 40:18Speaker 3: wide open here.
- 40:20Speaker 8: Well, it was like it was like it was like
- 40:21Speaker 8: I have nothing else to do. I've blocked that blocked.
- 40:24Speaker 8: I don't feel like blocking anymore. Let's go see what
- 40:26Speaker 8: the colin looks like. That's what it looked like. And
- 40:29Speaker 8: he said, yeah, I was a little surprised the play
- 40:31Speaker 8: was going on long enough where my blocking job was done.
- 40:34Speaker 8: Not if you go pass we catch. How many times
- 40:36Speaker 8: does the Seahawk pass blocker have enough time to just decide, Okay,
- 40:40Speaker 8: my job's done here. I'm going to go catch a pass.
- 40:42Speaker 8: That's happened like twice and ten years in Seattle. The
- 40:46Speaker 8: other thing I want to mentioned about Ernest Jones made
- 40:49Speaker 8: sure we all knew, including the national television answy US.
- 40:52Speaker 8: In the locker room after the game. They were talking
- 40:54Speaker 8: about it in the locker room a lot that the Rams
- 40:56Speaker 8: are laughing at him on the field when it was
- 40:58Speaker 8: thirty to fourteen, whenst yeah, I mean flat as Dernis,
- 41:02Speaker 8: Jones said, laughing. Man today, it was disrespectful. It disrespected us,
- 41:07Speaker 8: districted our defense, it disrespected the game. There was too
- 41:10Speaker 8: much time left. Yes, he's play for him, he said.
- 41:16Speaker 8: I'm not going to name names. He's smart enough because
- 41:18Speaker 8: he's thinking they may play him a third time in
- 41:19Speaker 8: the playoffs. He said, But they know I wrote a
- 41:22Speaker 8: whole story about it the news tributes at the Newstribune
- 41:25Speaker 8: dot com right now. But they could very well play
- 41:28Speaker 8: the Rams for the NFC title appear in Seattle, and
- 41:31Speaker 8: they will remember this. Bram's laughing at them at thirty
- 41:34Speaker 8: to fourteen of nine minutes left.
- 41:36Speaker 3: Yeah, now I want it. It's a Lei Frasier. They've
- 41:38Speaker 3: got to fight a third time, so let's do it,
- 41:41Speaker 3: all right? Well, awesome stuff, Thank you very much, so
- 41:44Speaker 3: we appreciate it, and we will certainly be checking in
- 41:46Speaker 3: with you next week.
- 41:48Speaker 8: Yeah happy. We let me say this as much and
- 41:50Speaker 8: as what they accomplished last night if they don't beat
- 41:53Speaker 8: the Panthers in forty nine ers down the.
- 41:55Speaker 6: Road anyway, Yeah, yeah, I hear you.
- 41:57Speaker 8: That's Louis League is every weekend, all right?
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- 43:21Speaker 3: Here's Chuck and Buck. Yes, Monday Morning Quarterback can happen
- 43:26Speaker 3: on a Friday. It happens a couple of times a
- 43:29Speaker 3: year in which we roll out to Hugh Mellon Mike
- 43:32Speaker 3: Homgrin to break down the latest Seahawks game the morning
- 43:36Speaker 3: after the Seahawks game, and it just so happens to
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- 43:44Speaker 3: So yeah, that happens a couple of times per year.
- 43:47Speaker 3: But what never has happened in the history of Seahawks
- 43:50Speaker 3: football is coming back from a sixteen point fourth quarter
- 43:53Speaker 3: deficit to win a game. It happened last night, and
- 43:56Speaker 3: it just so happened to be the biggest game of
- 43:59Speaker 3: the year. Thirty eight rams thirty seven. Hugh Mellon joins
- 44:03Speaker 3: us our QB one here to break this thing down
- 44:06Speaker 3: for the next couple of hours. Have you ever seen
- 44:08Speaker 3: anything like that? Melon?
- 44:10Speaker 10: It's one of the best games I've ever seen in
- 44:12Speaker 10: my life. It was one of the most improbable wins
- 44:16Speaker 10: I've seen for any team, let alone the Seahawks.
- 44:19Speaker 3: What do they say?
- 44:20Speaker 10: I heard this morning one point three percent. Somebody was
- 44:23Speaker 10: saying three percent, but then now they've shaved it down
- 44:26Speaker 10: to one point three.
- 44:26Speaker 3: I don't know. Whatever the metrics are. We know it
- 44:28Speaker 3: is very improbable.
- 44:30Speaker 10: It was just it was, in my opinion, such a
- 44:35Speaker 10: great win because mcmike McDonald is in year two, he's
- 44:39Speaker 10: trying to build. You know, you can say you're bought in,
- 44:42Speaker 10: and John Schneider can target guys that are that have
- 44:45Speaker 10: been predisposed in their past to be buying guys and
- 44:49Speaker 10: all of that works. But you still have to put
- 44:52Speaker 10: it out there and for the team to you know,
- 44:57Speaker 10: you're constantly preaching the leadership of the team headed by
- 45:00Speaker 10: Mike McDonald. You're preaching like, hey, stay together, you know,
- 45:04Speaker 10: they gotta you know, wait till the you know, play
- 45:06Speaker 10: till it's the clock is double zero. You don't believe
- 45:09Speaker 10: in each other. Uh Uh And all of those those
- 45:13Speaker 10: messages they can now say, look at this, you you
- 45:16Speaker 10: just had one of the most incredible wins, uh that
- 45:20Speaker 10: anybody can remember in the NFL, because you bleeked in
- 45:23Speaker 10: that that that would happen, and and you know, and
- 45:26Speaker 10: most especially obviously the battered quarterback that that he could
- 45:31Speaker 10: come back.
- 45:32Speaker 6: Uh.
- 45:32Speaker 10: And and so I think it's just it speaks such
- 45:36Speaker 10: volumes moving forward, uh and so good on them. It
- 45:41Speaker 10: was just spectacular entertainment. Yeah, you know what I love
- 45:44Speaker 10: about it. What I love about it is that it
- 45:46Speaker 10: was not like you backed into it. You took it
- 45:48Speaker 10: in the fourth quarter.
- 45:50Speaker 3: And sometimes these games, uh, usually it's a team that
- 45:53Speaker 3: coughs it up. But even though Sam Donald didn't play
- 45:56Speaker 3: his best game, he played he played well when he
- 46:00Speaker 3: had to. Kenneth Walker did play his best game of
- 46:02Speaker 3: the year. Your receivers, your playmakers made huge plays down
- 46:06Speaker 3: the stretch. Your defense overcame its secondary getting injured and ravaged,
- 46:10Speaker 3: and stepped up and certainly flipped the switch. At one
- 46:14Speaker 3: point he had three State three and outs against the
- 46:17Speaker 3: team that had over five hundred yards of offense against you.
- 46:19Speaker 3: You really did. I mean, he didn't have much time
- 46:21Speaker 3: to do it, but you ended up taking that game
- 46:23Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter from the Los Angeles Rams and
- 46:26Speaker 3: then winning it in overtime. So where does the analysis
- 46:30Speaker 3: begin for you? When there are eighty eight pages worth
- 46:33Speaker 3: of things that we could discuss here this morning.
- 46:35Speaker 10: Well, I'm just so shocked at how the defense the
- 46:38Speaker 10: yards that they gave up, and there was I believe
- 46:42Speaker 10: fifty eight plays out of thirteen personnel with the three
- 46:45Speaker 10: tight ends, and Seattle had handled that really well down
- 46:49Speaker 10: at sofar averaging two point seven yards per play. But
- 46:53Speaker 10: they just got carved up pretty bad last night, and
- 46:57Speaker 10: so I think it was so improbable to me the
- 46:59Speaker 10: over under was that was it forty two and a half,
- 47:03Speaker 10: you know, and so they would be that high scoring
- 47:06Speaker 10: a game, and you know, you know, if you don't
- 47:08Speaker 10: have the punt return, it's unlikely you're gonna win that game.
- 47:12Speaker 10: But I you know, I think for Sam Donald, I
- 47:16Speaker 10: can't stress how much courage he had to have, how
- 47:20Speaker 10: much metal because when he threw that second interception down
- 47:25Speaker 10: by the goal line. And if you can just try
- 47:28Speaker 10: and imagine for a second, I want you to really
- 47:29Speaker 10: just like almost close your eyes on the back of
- 47:31Speaker 10: your eye lids, try and be Sam Donald all the
- 47:35Speaker 10: crap that you've been getting. The Seattle Times writes a
- 47:37Speaker 10: call him on game day, you know, hey, can you
- 47:40Speaker 10: come up and clutch? And how many of his teammates
- 47:43Speaker 10: are reading that and the netwix are asking the question
- 47:46Speaker 10: and then you know, and he's been being reminded of
- 47:49Speaker 10: the four the four interceptions and you know it can't
- 47:53Speaker 10: can't win a big one.
- 47:54Speaker 3: Well, you know what's crazy?
- 47:56Speaker 10: A year ago, the the min not Soda Vikings put
- 48:00Speaker 10: him on their shoulders in the locker, on their shoulders
- 48:04Speaker 10: in the locker.
- 48:05Speaker 3: It's on YouTube. Look it up.
- 48:06Speaker 10: Because he had throw them for like three hundred and
- 48:08Speaker 10: seventy yards on a game that was December twenty ninth
- 48:11Speaker 10: to beat the Packers at a very pivotal game that
- 48:14Speaker 10: was a week after or a week or two after
- 48:16Speaker 10: he beat the Seahawks. Well, that was a pivotal game,
- 48:19Speaker 10: and yet people nobody wants to say you can win
- 48:21Speaker 10: a pivotal game.
- 48:22Speaker 3: The Vikings put him on their shoulders in the it
- 48:25Speaker 3: was December twenty ninth.
- 48:27Speaker 10: It wasn't September twenty ninth, it was December twenty ninth.
- 48:30Speaker 10: And so so now at this point he throws two
- 48:33Speaker 10: interceptions and everybody's looking at everybody's booing him. His passer
- 48:38Speaker 10: rating was a fifty one and his expected point to
- 48:43Speaker 10: average for the game was a negative point four to nine.
- 48:47Speaker 10: And to give that context, the NFL starting quarterbacks, if
- 48:51Speaker 10: you look it up, they live in a world the
- 48:53Speaker 10: best is point two four per play. The worst is
- 48:57Speaker 10: negative point two four. Got me, that's the range that
- 49:00Speaker 10: all thirty two quarterbacks. Darnold up to that point was
- 49:03Speaker 10: negative point.
- 49:03Speaker 3: Four to nine.
- 49:04Speaker 10: I double the worst and somehow he has the guts
- 49:09Speaker 10: to come from that point on. He has one hundred
- 49:12Speaker 10: and thirty seven passer rating and A and a point
- 49:17Speaker 10: ninety eight EPA. He quadruples the highest. That's what he did.
- 49:24Speaker 10: And to have the guts and the courage to, you know,
- 49:29Speaker 10: just still throwing the ball in the middle field throw.
- 49:32Speaker 10: You know, Jsm's just got this little tiny window between
- 49:35Speaker 10: the hook two hook defenders. Well, I'm gonna still rip
- 49:37Speaker 10: it in there. The corner route that he threw to
- 49:41Speaker 10: to Cooper Cup right in overtime. They started with Jackson
- 49:48Speaker 10: Smith and Jigba on the right side, and he was
- 49:51Speaker 10: in the backfield and they're running a little choice and
- 49:55Speaker 10: the Rams played a two deep, five under zone defense.
- 50:01Speaker 10: It would have been so easy for him Jackson Smith
- 50:04Speaker 10: and jig but he read the coverage. Well, I want
- 50:08Speaker 10: you to take your left hand and spread it out
- 50:10Speaker 10: as wide as he can. Spread your left hand and
- 50:12Speaker 10: look at the back of your hand. Got me, yep,
- 50:15Speaker 10: the hole between your thumb and your finger. Can you
- 50:17Speaker 10: put your that you see that space between your your
- 50:20Speaker 10: thumb and your index finger. Yes, that's where Cooper or
- 50:23Speaker 10: excuse me, that's where Jackson Smith and Jigba just hold
- 50:26Speaker 10: up right in there, nice tasty little hole the corner.
- 50:31Speaker 3: And you know what he did. He said, I'm gonna
- 50:33Speaker 3: go honting.
- 50:34Speaker 10: I got a chance to get Cooper Cup over the
- 50:36Speaker 10: top of the corner, who, by the way, had intercepted
- 50:39Speaker 10: him back down fourteen Durant Durant.
- 50:44Speaker 3: He but he said, I'm gonna.
- 50:45Speaker 10: Throw it over Durant's head into this little pocket over
- 50:48Speaker 10: by the sideline, given that he the interceptions he had had.
- 50:53Speaker 10: What that that statement about that play, Like, hey, he's
- 50:57Speaker 10: telling his teammates and by the way, he's that and
- 51:01Speaker 10: and Jared Verse had had come around on a on
- 51:06Speaker 10: a stunt that Anthony Bradford hadn't picked up, which didn't
- 51:10Speaker 10: eminently shock me. But but he's putting his helmet right
- 51:14Speaker 10: in his collarbone as he's throwing this thing. And I
- 51:19Speaker 10: just I don't know, I think if you, if you, you,
- 51:22Speaker 10: you don't have to be a guy that you know,
- 51:24Speaker 10: a quarterback nerd who just studies this stuff for fifty years.
- 51:28Speaker 10: Just like, think about what I'm describing to you. He
- 51:30Speaker 10: is earning his the trust of his teammates by like
- 51:35Speaker 10: look this dude is going to battle for sixty minutes.
- 51:38Speaker 10: He's not going to go into a freaking hole.
- 51:40Speaker 3: Man.
- 51:41Speaker 10: That is hard what he had to deal with after
- 51:44Speaker 10: the hole he dug himself in and everything that has
- 51:47Speaker 10: been heaped on him.
- 51:49Speaker 3: I don't know. I thought I was gutty as hell.
- 51:51Speaker 10: I was disappointed as a seattleite, you know, grew up,
- 51:56Speaker 10: you know, graduated from a you know what, Seattle public schools,
- 51:59Speaker 10: to hear him getting booed when the Seattle Seahawks are
- 52:04Speaker 10: the number two team, uh in the Super Bowl odds
- 52:08Speaker 10: in year one for your quarterback, you're young one in
- 52:11Speaker 10: your offense coordinator. We think we're great fans, Husky fans
- 52:14Speaker 10: through the years, Seahawk fans going back to the Kingdome.
- 52:17Speaker 10: I was embarrassed. I was embarrassed that the way the
- 52:20Speaker 10: offense was getting booed in the first half. Now at
- 52:23Speaker 10: some point after he threw his second interception. It's pro football.
- 52:27Speaker 10: You're making fifty something million, You're gonna get your ass booed.
- 52:30Speaker 10: I get that, but I thought I thought it was
- 52:33Speaker 10: way like like, seriously, yeah, we're not happy with where
- 52:37Speaker 10: the Seahawks aren't. We got a pretty damn good quarterback,
- 52:40Speaker 10: and he showed a lot of guts last night.
- 52:42Speaker 6: That's my take, one hundred percent.
- 52:44Speaker 5: I mean I heard that there was people that actually
- 52:47Speaker 5: left at that moment when they're second interception and yeah,
- 52:51Speaker 5: and that happened. Yeah, you're lucky you're not on Twitter
- 52:53Speaker 5: because there was a whole bunch of people burying him
- 52:55Speaker 5: and saying they wanted Tua to come in next year
- 52:57Speaker 5: to a time.
- 52:59Speaker 3: That's the minority, I'm sure it is. What do I
- 53:02Speaker 3: wish Pat Mahomes was the quarterbacks?
- 53:04Speaker 8: Sure?
- 53:05Speaker 10: Well, depending on how you want ma Ain answer, of course.
- 53:09Speaker 10: But he's the dude here the rams let's say things,
- 53:15Speaker 10: you know, kind of wobble and it's ends up being
- 53:18Speaker 10: a disappointment, disappointing finish You're still going to have on
- 53:22Speaker 10: Super Bowl Sunday. Matthew Stafford's going to be thirty eight
- 53:25Speaker 10: years old and Sam Darn's going to be twenty eight
- 53:27Speaker 10: years old. The seah Owks are the second youngest team.
- 53:30Speaker 10: They've gotten a new court, Like, like, do we not
- 53:33Speaker 10: know that offense takes more cohesion than defense?
- 53:35Speaker 3: Have we not learned that?
- 53:37Speaker 10: Like you're in year one with your quarterback and you
- 53:39Speaker 10: and and this offensive coordinator the idea. I mean, you're
- 53:44Speaker 10: ahead of the curve. You're ahead of the curve. Why
- 53:47Speaker 10: the hell are you booing? I mean, do you want
- 53:49Speaker 10: the Seahawks to win or do you think it doesn't
- 53:52Speaker 10: matter that that to create that kind of energy.
- 53:55Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't.
- 53:56Speaker 10: I had no plan to go off on on the
- 53:58Speaker 10: booing because it was such a wonderful, spectacular game and
- 54:02Speaker 10: I think by and large, you know, the crowd was there,
- 54:05Speaker 10: so I'll veer off of that lane. But I think
- 54:09Speaker 10: I found myself just defending Darnold, and I hope we
- 54:12Speaker 10: can appreciate it took a lot of guts. I've always
- 54:15Speaker 10: said the greatest game a quarterback has ever played is
- 54:19Speaker 10: Tom Brady in the Super Bowl against the Falcons. Not
- 54:21Speaker 10: because he was great for four quarters and into the overtime.
- 54:25Speaker 11: He wasn't.
- 54:26Speaker 10: He wasn't good in the first half. He had an
- 54:28Speaker 10: eighty six yard pick six right, and and there's a
- 54:32Speaker 10: lot of things that weren't going well. That's why they
- 54:33Speaker 10: got down twenty five points. What made it the greatest
- 54:36Speaker 10: game is that he battled back from that hole to
- 54:41Speaker 10: do everything that he did. And by the way, you know,
- 54:45Speaker 10: so he had two interceptions. Yesterday. Pat Mahomes has has
- 54:53Speaker 10: a Super Bowl where he had two touchdowns and two
- 54:56Speaker 10: interceptions and he won that Super Bowl and scored thirty
- 54:59Speaker 10: like the same number of points as Donald did. Matthew
- 55:03Speaker 10: Stafford in his Super Bowl he had two interceptions one
- 55:07Speaker 10: of the most pivotal plays in the history of the NFL.
- 55:10Speaker 10: Anybody heard of the Dwight Clark and the catch Joe
- 55:14Speaker 10: Montana when he put his hands under center before that play.
- 55:17Speaker 10: He had two touchdowns and three interceptions in that game.
- 55:22Speaker 3: Like it, like.
- 55:24Speaker 10: It doesn't matter when you play, when you make the
- 55:27Speaker 10: plays at the end, that that's what matters. And Sam
- 55:31Speaker 10: Donald made the plays to win the game. And he
- 55:34Speaker 10: is for the last thirty nine starts, he has won
- 55:37Speaker 10: seventy eight percent of his games. Like, how many starts
- 55:42Speaker 10: do we need to say where you say this guy's
- 55:44Speaker 10: pretty good?
- 55:44Speaker 11: Pretty good?
- 55:45Speaker 6: Yeah, oh, I'm with you one hundred percent.
- 55:47Speaker 5: I Mean, the true measure of a great athlete, in
- 55:50Speaker 5: my opinion, is how they rebound from failure. Way more
- 55:52Speaker 5: than just oh wow, remember that awesome five touchdown game
- 55:55Speaker 5: he had.
- 55:56Speaker 6: Okay, great, Yeah, you know that's great.
- 55:58Speaker 5: It's what do you do when when it looks like
- 56:00Speaker 5: things aren't going your way, to you cower and wither
- 56:02Speaker 5: and wilt, or do you rise to the occasion?
- 56:04Speaker 6: He did for sure.
- 56:05Speaker 5: Now, I mean the flip side of this, not the
- 56:07Speaker 5: flip side, but just kind of quick kind of touching
- 56:10Speaker 5: on the other side of the ball essentially.
- 56:12Speaker 6: I mean, the Rams were moving the ball.
- 56:14Speaker 5: I mean scored on six straight possessions after they turned
- 56:17Speaker 5: over on downs their first possession, and yet that punt
- 56:20Speaker 5: return and then the defense turning up the intensity a
- 56:24Speaker 5: little bit, I mean turned into basically four punts out
- 56:27Speaker 5: of the next five possessions and a missfield goal in there.
- 56:30Speaker 5: How big of a deal is that to then kind
- 56:33Speaker 5: of maybe give a little boost to Sam Dartell on
- 56:35Speaker 5: the offense that hey, we're going to do our part
- 56:37Speaker 5: and hold these guys to nothing.
- 56:38Speaker 6: You guys come back and do your part.
- 56:41Speaker 3: It's huge.
- 56:42Speaker 10: And that's I think where Mike McDonald is just preaching, Hey,
- 56:46Speaker 10: you know, you just got to keep playing complimentary football.
- 56:49Speaker 10: Believe in the other side of the ball. That's what's
- 56:51Speaker 10: unique about football. You know, Baseball, the offensive guys are
- 56:56Speaker 10: the defensive guys. Basketball, the offensive guys are the defensive
- 57:00Speaker 10: Football is you know soccer. Uh, I guess I've never
- 57:03Speaker 10: watched soccer, but I you know, I common sense would
- 57:06Speaker 10: tell me the offensive guys are the defensive guys. But
- 57:10Speaker 10: in football you have to you have to preach, you know,
- 57:13Speaker 10: the buy and hey have faith in in this and
- 57:16Speaker 10: and and you know the special teams. It wasn't just
- 57:19Speaker 10: the punt return. You had uh and and by the way,
- 57:23Speaker 10: a great scheming. I you had Cody White and and
- 57:28Speaker 10: uh twenty eight I know he's a backup corner. Helped
- 57:31Speaker 10: me out. But Chuck, they they played like two safeties back. Britchett, Yeah,
- 57:38Speaker 10: Pritchett they yeah, and and so they if you just
- 57:42Speaker 10: look at the the tape, it looks like a cover
- 57:44Speaker 10: two defense in normal football. But those two safeties were
- 57:48Speaker 10: back to help the gunners. And and so you got
- 57:51Speaker 10: a great block by Pritchard out on the edge along
- 57:56Speaker 10: with h I think it was Okada and fifty two
- 57:59Speaker 10: had the best block O'Connell and uh but anyway, and
- 58:03Speaker 10: just an electric, electrifying return right like he sprinted out
- 58:08Speaker 10: to the left and then he saw it like the
- 58:10Speaker 10: BMW commercially saw this hole and he just had this
- 58:13Speaker 10: heat to just like boom, hit that and and break
- 58:17Speaker 10: down everybody's angles a pursuit.
- 58:19Speaker 3: So uh Rashid Shaheed, I.
- 58:21Speaker 10: Mean, I mean at this juncture, I had been worried
- 58:25Speaker 10: that in April we'd say, oh man, I wish we
- 58:26Speaker 10: had that fourth and fifth round pick.
- 58:28Speaker 3: Well, you know, he's really been contributed.
- 58:30Speaker 10: And you know, maybe that that acquisition winsy of the
- 58:35Speaker 10: NFC West because because of that return. But also we
- 58:38Speaker 10: were talking about a week ago the the field position
- 58:43Speaker 10: coming off of kickoffs the Seahawks the Rams, based on
- 58:47Speaker 10: presumably Shaheed and his juice. Do you notice the Rams
- 58:52Speaker 10: kickers on the kickoff kicked it into the end zone
- 58:56Speaker 10: every single time? Yes, and for a touchback like they
- 59:00Speaker 10: didn't even try. It wasn't like oh I mishit, you know,
- 59:03Speaker 10: like I grabbed one to along of a club and
- 59:07Speaker 10: I barely know. They were trying to hammer that thing
- 59:10Speaker 10: through the end zone on every single kickoff, giving Seattle
- 59:14Speaker 10: the ball off to thirty five. So the average start
- 59:17Speaker 10: for Seattle was thirty to thirty four, you know, and
- 59:21Speaker 10: the average start for the Rams was the twenty seven
- 59:24Speaker 10: on all their drive starts. You know, so that's seven
- 59:28Speaker 10: yards but multiply that by fourteen drives and you know
- 59:35Speaker 10: you're you're talking nearly one hundred yards of difference in
- 59:38Speaker 10: you know, in field position. So so receids seeds element
- 59:44Speaker 10: there showed up. And in the prior game, I'd made
- 59:49Speaker 10: a bigger deal because I was like, whoa, Seattle's number
- 59:52Speaker 10: one in EPA and special teams and the Rams are
- 59:55Speaker 10: are dead last thirty two. This is the game going
- 59:57Speaker 10: down in so far, I said, that's got to play
- 1:00:00Speaker 10: out for the game. Well, guess what. Their punter drops
- 1:00:03Speaker 10: it into the six inch line, the most pivotal punt
- 1:00:06Speaker 10: of the of the season. Right, So it did not
- 1:00:09Speaker 10: manifest in that game, but it did last night. The
- 1:00:14Speaker 10: Special team's advantage was was, you know, for the reasons
- 1:00:20Speaker 10: I'm citing, and in that punt return, you know, huge
- 1:00:23Speaker 10: part of it.
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: That's again the buy in for a young team totally
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: changed the game, totally changed the momentum. And then the
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: thirty one yard run by Shaheed as well, it's like
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: he was solely responsible for, like, let's change the momentum
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: of this thing. And then everybody seemed to buy in
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: after that. Donald got hot, defense got hot. Everything clicked
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: after that and you end up winning the game. It's
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- 1:00:59Speaker 3: there's a lot more about Sam Darnold and some of
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- 1:01:42Speaker 3: You got more notes than usual over there. That's stacked there, Coach,
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: that's that's just topical notes to discuss with you.
- 1:01:49Speaker 4: And Hugh here today. You know, what do you doing?
- 1:01:51Speaker 4: Have such a nice job with that I have? I
- 1:01:55Speaker 4: had one extra sheet one one sheet. Yeah, but I
- 1:01:59Speaker 4: kind of departmentalized things and just I'm short short doing
- 1:02:02Speaker 4: that stuff.
- 1:02:03Speaker 3: But are you saying you're more efficient than I am?
- 1:02:05Speaker 4: No, you're all I'm saying I probably less efficient, but
- 1:02:07Speaker 4: I circle things, you know, and said this is important.
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: You're more of a circler than a scribbler.
- 1:02:14Speaker 8: It is.
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: Chuck it back in the mornings, Coach. Onger now joins
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: the conversation here on a Monday morning quarterback on a
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: football Friday, as we recap last night's insane thirty eight
- 1:02:26Speaker 3: thirty seven win over the Los Angeles Rams in overtime.
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: And there's still a lot of ground we haven't gotten
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: to with Hugh, so we'll cover some new ground with
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: both you and Hugh this hour, but also just want
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: to get your thoughts just off the top. You're down
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: sixteen midway through the fourth quarter against the team that
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: some people think is the best team in the National
- 1:02:46Speaker 3: Football League, and they certainly played that way for most
- 1:02:49Speaker 3: of the game. What do you attribute to being able
- 1:02:54Speaker 3: to come back in this contest, because it's not like
- 1:02:55Speaker 3: the Rams gave it away. They didn't have any turnovers,
- 1:02:58Speaker 3: you know, they didn't just give it to the Seahawks.
- 1:03:01Speaker 3: They kind of took it from them and the fourth quarter,
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: So what do you attribute to this comeback when.
- 1:03:07Speaker 4: Well, first of all, the game was out of side.
- 1:03:09Speaker 4: It was just one of the more remarkable games I've
- 1:03:12Speaker 4: seen in a long time. I never thought it'd be
- 1:03:15Speaker 4: that high scoring. I thought it'd be close, but so
- 1:03:18Speaker 4: it was. You know, kudos to both sides. Honestly, it
- 1:03:21Speaker 4: was a great, great football game. To your point, Chuck,
- 1:03:24Speaker 4: I think when they're down, you know, I thought, I
- 1:03:27Speaker 4: sat there and I'm watching the game. I said, okay,
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: it's they're pretty much toast, you know what I mean,
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: And this is the game's over.
- 1:03:35Speaker 11: And it wasn't. And I think.
- 1:03:38Speaker 4: When you're in that situation and the team reacts like
- 1:03:41Speaker 4: the Seahawks reacted, I think.
- 1:03:45Speaker 11: That says a lot.
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: My own feeling says a lot about the coach and
- 1:03:48Speaker 4: how he has taught and prepared the team and how
- 1:03:53Speaker 4: they think and how they games is like.
- 1:03:57Speaker 11: The score is the score is before the score is.
- 1:04:01Speaker 4: Kind of there, and obviously you're playing to get more
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: points than the other team, but just how they stuck,
- 1:04:08Speaker 4: how they stick with it, how they keep playing, how
- 1:04:11Speaker 4: the belief system, and I credit I credit Mike the
- 1:04:15Speaker 4: belief system in what they're doing, that they're going to
- 1:04:18Speaker 4: make something. We're going to make this work and at
- 1:04:21Speaker 4: the end, we're going to have a good feeling because
- 1:04:24Speaker 4: and then there was no I didn't have that feeling,
- 1:04:27Speaker 4: you know. And I'm watching the game and I think
- 1:04:29Speaker 4: a lot of fans there's some left thought, some bood yeah, yeah.
- 1:04:33Speaker 11: I said this is over.
- 1:04:35Speaker 4: And uh, that's a real credit I think to Mike McDonald,
- 1:04:38Speaker 4: how he and how he has prepared his team and
- 1:04:41Speaker 4: the philosophy they play.
- 1:04:42Speaker 10: With Mike, when you let's talk about Sam Darnold's role
- 1:04:48Speaker 10: in that. I assume when you go to overtime that
- 1:04:52Speaker 10: you'd say, if I hit you up before the game,
- 1:04:54Speaker 10: you say, hey, we're going to go into overtime. You
- 1:04:57Speaker 10: know what, what words might you say to your quarterback?
- 1:05:00Speaker 10: You might think, well, hopefully we've been uh, you know,
- 1:05:04Speaker 10: having a real successful game for a fourth quarter and
- 1:05:07Speaker 10: for four quarters to say, hey, just keep ripping their
- 1:05:10Speaker 10: ass like you've been you know, go get them.
- 1:05:13Speaker 3: But that's not what Mike McDonald might have been able
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: to say.
- 1:05:16Speaker 10: He had the two uh interceptions and they're both pretty
- 1:05:21Speaker 10: pretty grisly. I mean, those were those are bad interceptions
- 1:05:25Speaker 10: and and and yet he's gotta you gotta somehow flush
- 1:05:28Speaker 10: it and still be a playmaker. What what what do
- 1:05:33Speaker 10: you say to your quarterback in that situation? And then
- 1:05:36Speaker 10: when you watch what Donald did, uh after those two interceptions,
- 1:05:42Speaker 10: you know, making the place to win the football game?
- 1:05:45Speaker 10: Kind of what's what's your thoughts and all of that as.
- 1:05:48Speaker 4: That unfolds, well as it unfolds, excuse me, the uh
- 1:05:53Speaker 4: I would say, it's a new game, you know, I mean,
- 1:05:56Speaker 4: you're you're going into overtime or you're you're talking to
- 1:05:59Speaker 4: your orderback and Hugh, you you've probably been talked to
- 1:06:03Speaker 4: this way that what what has happened? What has happened prior? Okay,
- 1:06:08Speaker 4: it happened, but now, okay, this is a fresh start.
- 1:06:11Speaker 4: This is a new game. We got a chance to win.
- 1:06:14Speaker 4: This is what I'm going to call, this is what
- 1:06:15Speaker 4: I'm going to do. Make good decisions and just kind.
- 1:06:18Speaker 3: Of that was every series for me.
- 1:06:20Speaker 8: Mike what you just described that every series.
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: Forget about that last pass here, but you know what,
- 1:06:27Speaker 3: it's a new game. It's a new game.
- 1:06:29Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what you That's what I think. What
- 1:06:35Speaker 4: you have to impress upon the player. You know that
- 1:06:39Speaker 4: I'm not thinking there. I'm not going there, and I
- 1:06:41Speaker 4: don't want you going there. This is what we're doing,
- 1:06:44Speaker 4: and just spell it out for him and then you
- 1:06:46Speaker 4: know I wouldn't. I didn't use the letter rip saying
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: very much. But uh, they they knew and that fresh
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: start let's go, you know.
- 1:06:56Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, I mean he doesn't seem to get it
- 1:07:00Speaker 5: completely rattled. Maybe he did it with when he's thrown
- 1:07:03Speaker 5: his fourth interception the first time that they met, but
- 1:07:05Speaker 5: he seemed to keep his composure enough and make some
- 1:07:08Speaker 5: unbelievable throws there down the stretch. That one corner route
- 1:07:11Speaker 5: you discussed earlier to Cooper Cup was just an absolute
- 1:07:14Speaker 5: dime over the guy.
- 1:07:15Speaker 6: But still in bounds.
- 1:07:17Speaker 5: When the momentum starts to shift like that and you're coaching, right,
- 1:07:21Speaker 5: I mean, it's down sixteen with nine minutes, there's time,
- 1:07:25Speaker 5: but you know, you kind of feel like you're gonna
- 1:07:27Speaker 5: need something special, like a punt return for a touchdown
- 1:07:29Speaker 5: something like that. But once it starts to happen, is
- 1:07:31Speaker 5: there anything in particular that you did where let's go
- 1:07:34Speaker 5: for the judge that's hit him quick like they did
- 1:07:37Speaker 5: with the second touchdown, or is anything change in your
- 1:07:40Speaker 5: mind as a coach and a play caller because you
- 1:07:43Speaker 5: feel that momentum shift.
- 1:07:45Speaker 4: I don't think it changes too much in your play selection,
- 1:07:48Speaker 4: but there absolutely is a feeling on the sideline and
- 1:07:54Speaker 4: when the momentum changes like that and you're kind of
- 1:07:57Speaker 4: approaching a chance to win this thing when it didn't
- 1:08:00Speaker 4: look good. Not only the players, I mean the coaches
- 1:08:06Speaker 4: feel it. And I used to walk the walk and
- 1:08:08Speaker 4: kind of you see McVeigh do it every once in
- 1:08:11Speaker 4: a while, and uh uh, you don't see Mike do
- 1:08:13Speaker 4: it too much.
- 1:08:14Speaker 11: But you turn.
- 1:08:15Speaker 4: Around and you're talking to the players and you're okay here,
- 1:08:18Speaker 4: you know, you're kind of gain You're you're you're feeling
- 1:08:22Speaker 4: the momentum and you want to make sure the players do.
- 1:08:25Speaker 4: But you don't have to say too much if you've
- 1:08:27Speaker 4: if you've prepared them and taught them about those things,
- 1:08:31Speaker 4: and I think he has done that. That's probably why
- 1:08:33Speaker 4: he doesn't have to do too much, and that's why
- 1:08:35Speaker 4: assistant coaches, you know, probably do it for him. And
- 1:08:39Speaker 4: now you have twenty six assistant coaches in the seat
- 1:08:42Speaker 4: of ten, So you got a lot of guys cheerleading
- 1:08:44Speaker 4: on the sideline, you know.
- 1:08:45Speaker 3: Mike Olmer and Humellen with us Monday morning quarterback here
- 1:08:49Speaker 3: all in Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R
- 1:08:51Speaker 3: f M. Well, let's let's have this, Maybe put this
- 1:08:54Speaker 3: conversation to bed or at least advance it. Two more
- 1:08:58Speaker 3: interceptions from Sam and yet he does overcome it and
- 1:09:01Speaker 3: makes all the throws down the stretch to somehow win
- 1:09:04Speaker 3: that game. So I would just ask you, and he
- 1:09:07Speaker 3: would as well. Does Sam Darnold have an interception issue?
- 1:09:11Speaker 3: And if so, what did last night's come back do
- 1:09:15Speaker 3: for him to maybe fix that problem?
- 1:09:19Speaker 4: You know What's he's in his own mind and then
- 1:09:21Speaker 4: everyone's mind. He's throwing too many interceptions. I get that,
- 1:09:24Speaker 4: you know, but they're winning. Look at their record. Yeah,
- 1:09:27Speaker 4: and he's the quarterback and he's doing it. He is
- 1:09:30Speaker 4: doing it for them.
- 1:09:31Speaker 11: It might might.
- 1:09:32Speaker 4: Everyone wants Every once in a while it looks a
- 1:09:34Speaker 4: little why do he do that?
- 1:09:36Speaker 11: You know?
- 1:09:36Speaker 4: But I've lived through that, you know, I've been there,
- 1:09:40Speaker 4: and so you just keep going, you keep going.
- 1:09:43Speaker 6: He is the.
- 1:09:43Speaker 4: Reason that their record is the record they have, and
- 1:09:47Speaker 4: they have a great defense, they have good talent on offense,
- 1:09:50Speaker 4: but that quarterback has gotten him this far. And so,
- 1:09:54Speaker 4: you know, quarterback, you play the position. You're going to
- 1:09:56Speaker 4: throw an interception now and then. But look at I
- 1:10:01Speaker 4: think everyone has to kind of stick with him and
- 1:10:03Speaker 4: stand behind him, and he's going to be the guy
- 1:10:06Speaker 4: and his teammates know that.
- 1:10:08Speaker 11: His teammates know that.
- 1:10:09Speaker 4: And as a coach trying to fix something, I think
- 1:10:12Speaker 4: you don't overthink it, you know, just now, let's look
- 1:10:15Speaker 4: at why it happened. You talk about it, certainly, but
- 1:10:20Speaker 4: I'm looking I've been in his corner since the beginning,
- 1:10:22Speaker 4: and I'm going to stick there.
- 1:10:23Speaker 10: Hugh, I firmly agree with every word Mike just said.
- 1:10:27Speaker 8: There.
- 1:10:29Speaker 10: You know, I think that that if if I imagine,
- 1:10:33Speaker 10: if I was, you know, backup, and Mike was the coach,
- 1:10:35Speaker 10: or I was in that meeting room, it's not that
- 1:10:38Speaker 10: they we wouldn't be trying to, you know, remedy and
- 1:10:42Speaker 10: avoid interceptions. You know, earlier in the year, it was
- 1:10:46Speaker 10: probably a little easier to to reconcile because you know,
- 1:10:51Speaker 10: he was producing big plays at such a huge rate
- 1:10:55Speaker 10: that slip a little bit in these past few weeks.
- 1:10:59Speaker 10: But you know, he made the plays last night when
- 1:11:02Speaker 10: they needed to be made, and I think that that,
- 1:11:04Speaker 10: in many people's judgment, that's.
- 1:11:06Speaker 3: The real mark of a quarterback.
- 1:11:07Speaker 10: But Mike, just those two interceptions, you know, the first one,
- 1:11:13Speaker 10: you know, it's just it was a disguised two deep
- 1:11:15Speaker 10: five under. They're getting what you would call lion double
- 1:11:21Speaker 10: slant on to the left, you know, with a zone.
- 1:11:24Speaker 10: Now there happened to have been a tight end on
- 1:11:26Speaker 10: that side, so it was a trips he was doing
- 1:11:28Speaker 10: to sit over the ball. But uh, you gotta read
- 1:11:33Speaker 10: that number two defender, the guy over the overhang defender.
- 1:11:37Speaker 10: If he doesn't, if he doesn't reduce inside with that
- 1:11:40Speaker 10: inside slant, you can't throw the outside slant right. And
- 1:11:44Speaker 10: I mean just kind of talk about that one, because
- 1:11:46Speaker 10: that that stuff that I've taught at high school, that
- 1:11:49Speaker 10: the concept that you got to know the inside defender
- 1:11:52Speaker 10: if you're going to throw the outside slant on double slant.
- 1:11:55Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I think if he recognizes that,
- 1:11:58Speaker 4: if that's the defense he sees five under that's not
- 1:12:02Speaker 4: the greatest play to have against that because you have
- 1:12:04Speaker 4: underneath coverage. There are the holes get squeezed down with
- 1:12:08Speaker 4: five under on two double slants. Now to your point here,
- 1:12:12Speaker 4: if he stays with it, he's got to be aware
- 1:12:15Speaker 4: of that. Absolutely. I would tell him. I would say,
- 1:12:18Speaker 4: get out of that play. Call something we done that
- 1:12:21Speaker 4: to be complicated, but something that's a two deep five
- 1:12:24Speaker 4: under beater or a better play versus that defense.
- 1:12:29Speaker 8: But it started, Mike.
- 1:12:30Speaker 10: It started as a single high and at the snap
- 1:12:33Speaker 10: that rotated, you know, it looked like it could be
- 1:12:35Speaker 10: number one cover one press, so I don't think he
- 1:12:38Speaker 10: had a great read on it. And it became it
- 1:12:41Speaker 10: looked like cover one press and became two D five
- 1:12:44Speaker 10: under zone right, And as I said, I want to
- 1:12:47Speaker 10: make the point, it wasn't a two by formation. It
- 1:12:50Speaker 10: was a three buy to that side, and the tight end,
- 1:12:54Speaker 10: who was an inline position barner, he kind of sat
- 1:12:57Speaker 10: over the ball. The other one the intercept.
- 1:13:00Speaker 3: Down by the goal line.
- 1:13:02Speaker 10: Mike my notes, you know my terminology is cover zero
- 1:13:05Speaker 10: double rat It was it was man and man, no safety,
- 1:13:08Speaker 10: and then you had two linemen who started to rush,
- 1:13:14Speaker 10: but then they pulled out into the hook zones. And
- 1:13:17Speaker 10: it's the exact same notes that I had on Leonard
- 1:13:21Speaker 10: Williams ninety two yard interception return against Aaron Rodgers last year,
- 1:13:27Speaker 10: cover zero, double rat and so you know it can
- 1:13:32Speaker 10: get quarterbacks. If you don't see that guy, you know,
- 1:13:36Speaker 10: you think you think it's cover zero, you think it's
- 1:13:38Speaker 10: man and man. Oh, there's there's no problems to throw
- 1:13:40Speaker 10: that insight slanding by the way, it was dragging to
- 1:13:42Speaker 10: the left mike which chuck and Buck is slanted by
- 1:13:45Speaker 10: the outside guy and a quick flat by the slot receiver.
- 1:13:50Speaker 6: Cup.
- 1:13:51Speaker 10: Just talk about how you would analyze and you would
- 1:13:55Speaker 10: coach Darnold after he made that mistake.
- 1:13:59Speaker 4: Well, he you know, that's a tough one because if
- 1:14:02Speaker 4: you know Aaron Rodgers did it, he's played a little bit.
- 1:14:05Speaker 4: He made the same And that's if you have defensive
- 1:14:08Speaker 4: linemen that can do that. Okay, Obviously you had to
- 1:14:11Speaker 4: be talked about it going into the game. From that situation,
- 1:14:16Speaker 4: you just have to be careful. You got to be
- 1:14:18Speaker 4: careful in certain situations, and that's one of them. You know,
- 1:14:22Speaker 4: if you don't see it, if you see the opening,
- 1:14:26Speaker 4: throw it. If you can't see the opening but you
- 1:14:28Speaker 4: know you think it's there because of the coverage you have. No, no,
- 1:14:32Speaker 4: you got to be careful about that one. That would
- 1:14:35Speaker 4: be the coaching coaching I would do on that play.
- 1:14:38Speaker 10: So I'm sorry, checking Buck. Just one more thought, because
- 1:14:41Speaker 10: I think this is an important point, Mike. When Darnold
- 1:14:45Speaker 10: threw that interception, this is the one down by the
- 1:14:48Speaker 10: gone we're just talking about with the defensive lineman popping
- 1:14:51Speaker 10: out and getting it. They chose to have the set
- 1:14:55Speaker 10: there was three to the left and three to the
- 1:14:57Speaker 10: right out of an empty formation. The tight end was
- 1:15:01Speaker 10: to the right, so there's three guys to the right,
- 1:15:03Speaker 10: two receivers to the left. They chose to have the
- 1:15:07Speaker 10: center go to the right towards the tight end, which
- 1:15:12Speaker 10: meant that the end on the left was on the
- 1:15:15Speaker 10: on the open side with the tackle there was no
- 1:15:17Speaker 10: tight end and outside he has a shorter edge. Had
- 1:15:21Speaker 10: they had they directed the center to go to the left,
- 1:15:25Speaker 10: because and there's an open edge to the left. Now
- 1:15:28Speaker 10: the unblocked guy would have been way outside the tight
- 1:15:31Speaker 10: end to the right, he has a long, longer path
- 1:15:34Speaker 10: to get to the quarterback. What do you think about
- 1:15:39Speaker 10: the idea of of of the center and now he
- 1:15:42Speaker 10: wanted to throw the dragon into the into the pressure.
- 1:15:45Speaker 10: But but that's certainly a part of avoiding this situation
- 1:15:49Speaker 10: is choosing the short edge versus the long edge on
- 1:15:53Speaker 10: the unblocked rusher.
- 1:15:55Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, either way, he's going to have to
- 1:15:58Speaker 4: get the ball out of his hand quickly because even
- 1:16:01Speaker 4: though he's one more man removed, he's going to get
- 1:16:05Speaker 4: there and get hit if you hold on the ball
- 1:16:07Speaker 4: too long because they don't have enough blockers. But so
- 1:16:11Speaker 4: he's got to deliver the They have enough blockers, but
- 1:16:14Speaker 4: not the way the defensive guys popped out.
- 1:16:16Speaker 11: So yeah, yeah, it.
- 1:16:18Speaker 4: Makes some sense to do that, send the center away
- 1:16:22Speaker 4: and give the guy have a little more time to
- 1:16:24Speaker 4: throw it. But then sometimes you just have to say, okay,
- 1:16:30Speaker 4: they got me here, Okay, they got me here, and
- 1:16:32Speaker 4: tuck the ball and run or get down or do something,
- 1:16:35Speaker 4: but don't throw the interception.
- 1:16:36Speaker 5: Well, ultimately, I mean I would imagine it's Shula right
- 1:16:39Speaker 5: that Chris Shula is the defensive coordinator for the Rams. Yes,
- 1:16:43Speaker 5: I probably learned that. Yeah it's not Don Shoela.
- 1:16:46Speaker 8: I know that.
- 1:16:47Speaker 5: Yeah, they probably learned that from watching a Hermerson High
- 1:16:50Speaker 5: School Bulldogs game coach, I would imagine because we had
- 1:16:54Speaker 5: one of those. It was called Bondsi. It was Bucky
- 1:16:56Speaker 5: on the zone. As a defensive end. I would drop
- 1:16:59Speaker 5: into coverage. Yeah, picked off Tony Hill. He was the
- 1:17:02Speaker 5: best quarterback in our state.
- 1:17:03Speaker 3: And everybody runs the Bonzie play. Now, yeah, they learned
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: it from us, and you got the interception. I did, wow.
- 1:17:10Speaker 6: And then I almost fumbled while I was getting tackled,
- 1:17:12Speaker 6: but I didn't.
- 1:17:14Speaker 3: I mean, it's the danger of Bonzie, yea. Everybody knows it.
- 1:17:16Speaker 5: Not much of a ball handling. Yeah, yeah, exactly why
- 1:17:19Speaker 5: I dropped back. They tried hitting the tight end like
- 1:17:21Speaker 5: a hot route of some sort.
- 1:17:22Speaker 4: Uh, you were probably after the interception. You're probably running
- 1:17:26Speaker 4: down with the ball in your hands.
- 1:17:27Speaker 5: No better than that, No, no, no, No premature celebration
- 1:17:30Speaker 5: out of this guy, coach than laps.
- 1:17:35Speaker 10: I think I have new terminology that takes less time
- 1:17:38Speaker 10: to write, Bonzi than cover zero double rat.
- 1:17:40Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I don't want to be called a rat.
- 1:17:44Speaker 4: That will always be Bonzie. It will always be Bondie
- 1:17:46Speaker 4: from this time.
- 1:17:47Speaker 5: Well, it wasn't very bright. I think it was. Ray
- 1:17:49Speaker 5: Brown was our coach. He had to make it simple enough.
- 1:17:52Speaker 5: To where I knew it right, like it was specific
- 1:17:55Speaker 5: for me dropping back.
- 1:17:56Speaker 6: We didn't run it very often, but lucky on zone.
- 1:18:00Speaker 3: Sam Darnol needs to be careful of that play. I mean,
- 1:18:02Speaker 3: you gotta be careful with those three hundred and fifteen
- 1:18:04Speaker 3: pound defensive tackles standing between you and JSM. All right,
- 1:18:08Speaker 3: it is Monday morning quarterback. A lot more to discuss
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: with coaching with you. We'll get to it next. Sports
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- 1:18:30Speaker 3: I feel like we could go for five more hours
- 1:18:32Speaker 3: if everybody's up for it.
- 1:18:34Speaker 6: Anybody no, no good? Yeah?
- 1:18:36Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, I guess we'll do one last
- 1:18:39Speaker 3: thing then. So what do you got for coach? Your bucket? Coach?
- 1:18:42Speaker 5: We discussed a little bit about the booing and understandably
- 1:18:45Speaker 5: so and play calling and whatnot. But I can remember
- 1:18:47Speaker 5: back when you were coaching that there would be times
- 1:18:50Speaker 5: at third and sixteen you'd call a screen or you'd.
- 1:18:53Speaker 6: Call a draw.
- 1:18:54Speaker 3: Draw.
- 1:18:54Speaker 6: Yeah, last night it did.
- 1:18:56Speaker 5: It didn't turn into points because that was the same
- 1:18:59Speaker 5: drive that Cooper cut cut. That pass gets down there
- 1:19:02Speaker 5: and fump gets hit and fumbles. But there was a
- 1:19:04Speaker 5: third and sixteen, they called a draw and they got
- 1:19:07Speaker 5: seventeen yards out of it. In the middle of the
- 1:19:09Speaker 5: play when they hand off, the crowd booze and then
- 1:19:12Speaker 5: he gets seventeen yards.
- 1:19:13Speaker 6: Was there a part of you that smiled and said, you.
- 1:19:16Speaker 4: Know what, I'm glad you brought that up, because on
- 1:19:19Speaker 4: that play I said, I used to do that and
- 1:19:22Speaker 4: not get credit for it.
- 1:19:24Speaker 11: I used to do that and look at they you
- 1:19:26Speaker 11: know what.
- 1:19:27Speaker 4: But I thought when he handed the ball off, honestly,
- 1:19:31Speaker 4: I was probably part of that group in the stands.
- 1:19:34Speaker 4: I said, what are you doing? What are you doing?
- 1:19:37Speaker 4: And then I caught myself. I used to do that.
- 1:19:41Speaker 4: This is probably a pretty good on year. Hey, and
- 1:19:43Speaker 4: he got a first down. Yes, I used to do that.
- 1:19:46Speaker 6: Good, That's what I was hoping you did.
- 1:19:49Speaker 3: H Yeah. I kind of felt like a throwaway play
- 1:19:51Speaker 3: that worked. Yes, yeah, it worked. And I even wrote
- 1:19:54Speaker 3: down at the time, I wrote down that might end
- 1:19:56Speaker 3: up being the biggest play of the year, and ended
- 1:19:59Speaker 3: up not even being the biggest play of the quarter,
- 1:20:01Speaker 3: but nonetheless it seemed pretty big at the time. What
- 1:20:05Speaker 3: he got for coach you? Yeah, you know one guy
- 1:20:09Speaker 3: that really nobody's talking. I don't say nobody, but I
- 1:20:12Speaker 3: don't hear it. Talk seldom talked about from last night
- 1:20:17Speaker 3: is Josh Jones. And there are some positions cornerback, left
- 1:20:21Speaker 3: tackle where no news is good news. If you don't
- 1:20:25Speaker 3: hear him mention, you're not thinking about him. That's a
- 1:20:27Speaker 3: good officials, it's a good thing if you're not thinking
- 1:20:31Speaker 3: about them.
- 1:20:31Speaker 10: Right, And and here was a guy there was two
- 1:20:34Speaker 10: big injuries might coming into this game. Matthew Stafford didn't
- 1:20:39Speaker 10: seem to miss Davante Adams. He threw for four hundred
- 1:20:41Speaker 10: and fifty seven yards and Seattle. I thought with Josh
- 1:20:45Speaker 10: Jones at left tackle, I thought he had a hell
- 1:20:48Speaker 10: of a game. I mean, he had no sacks, and
- 1:20:53Speaker 10: you know he was in some ways he was taking
- 1:20:56Speaker 10: on the block closer to the line of scrimmage, a
- 1:20:58Speaker 10: little bit more of a jump set as opposed to a.
- 1:21:01Speaker 3: Kickstep deep drop. I don't know.
- 1:21:04Speaker 10: I thought in training camp he looked like a guy
- 1:21:07Speaker 10: that could be the best swing tackle the Seahawks have
- 1:21:10Speaker 10: had in years, and and they thrust him into those duties.
- 1:21:14Speaker 3: I thought he had a hell of a game. Did
- 1:21:15Speaker 3: you have any impress about him?
- 1:21:17Speaker 4: Well, I thought going into the game, I thought if
- 1:21:20Speaker 4: if the Rams and they have good pass rushers on
- 1:21:23Speaker 4: the outside, that that could be a problem. You bring
- 1:21:27Speaker 4: in a guy who hasn't played a lot, and you
- 1:21:31Speaker 4: know he's gonna have his hands full. But I'm glad
- 1:21:32Speaker 4: you mentioned him because he did exactly what you said.
- 1:21:35Speaker 4: He he really held it together and did a great job.
- 1:21:39Speaker 4: And you know he's a giant guy. He's a big man.
- 1:21:43Speaker 4: And I didn't study the film like you do, Hugh,
- 1:21:45Speaker 4: but it didn't. It didn't disrupt anything. That didn't that
- 1:21:51Speaker 4: didn't disrupt anything for the Seahawks, and so give him
- 1:21:54Speaker 4: his credit absolutely.
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: All right, Well, close with this. I suppose it's a
- 1:21:59Speaker 3: third Thursday night game. I mentioned earlier in the show
- 1:22:02Speaker 3: that Ashley and I get to watch Sunday stress free.
- 1:22:06Speaker 3: We get to watch our football this week and completely
- 1:22:08Speaker 3: stress free. Bucky's got a little stressing out to do.
- 1:22:11Speaker 3: I suppose on Sunday. As a coach, when you play
- 1:22:15Speaker 3: on Thursday night, how good does it feel coming off
- 1:22:18Speaker 3: a win, to go into the holidays and not have
- 1:22:21Speaker 3: to worry about whether you're going to win or lose
- 1:22:23Speaker 3: that weekend.
- 1:22:24Speaker 4: I think it's great, and I think I don't know
- 1:22:26Speaker 4: what his message to the team will be But if
- 1:22:30Speaker 4: I was in that exact situation, they have off until Monday,
- 1:22:34Speaker 4: you just enjoy it. Now, you caution it's a cautionary tale.
- 1:22:39Speaker 4: You got to kind of be smart about how you
- 1:22:42Speaker 4: handle us. But enjoy your family, enjoy whatever you want
- 1:22:44Speaker 4: to enjoy, and then come back Monday and we'll get
- 1:22:47Speaker 4: rolling for the next game. But yeah, it's a Thursday
- 1:22:50Speaker 4: night win the way they won. Enjoy the couple days
- 1:22:54Speaker 4: that follow that before you have to get back to work.
- 1:22:56Speaker 3: He's really got things cooking, doesn't he. And he's really
- 1:22:58Speaker 3: got a good program goinging on right now.
- 1:23:00Speaker 4: He is really good and and and you know what,
- 1:23:04Speaker 4: everyone and if no one anticipated this in the beginning,
- 1:23:08Speaker 4: they thought they would be good and improved and all
- 1:23:10Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, but this is really something. And
- 1:23:13Speaker 4: now they're in. They're in. They're in the playoffs.
- 1:23:15Speaker 11: So now they're there.
- 1:23:16Speaker 4: Now they approach a different season, and you know, they
- 1:23:19Speaker 4: got a couple of games left, in big important games,
- 1:23:22Speaker 4: but they're in. And now that the playoffs and then
- 1:23:25Speaker 4: the super Bowl, you got two different seasons coming up.
- 1:23:28Speaker 3: Chuck, can I veer off the format real quick?
- 1:23:30Speaker 8: Sure?
- 1:23:30Speaker 3: Mike?
- 1:23:31Speaker 10: Uh. The decision to go for two in overtime. Some
- 1:23:35Speaker 10: people think that there was there was a decision there.
- 1:23:38Speaker 10: I can't imagine, you know, on a Thursday, after you
- 1:23:41Speaker 10: played Sunday played overtime, I can't imagine asking that defense
- 1:23:45Speaker 10: to go out on the field and play one more play.
- 1:23:49Speaker 10: You know, it seemed like the two point was the obvious.
- 1:23:51Speaker 10: But but what what is there anything that you're thinking
- 1:23:54Speaker 10: as a head.
- 1:23:55Speaker 3: Coach in that regard.
- 1:23:56Speaker 4: No, I think I think that's they made their worked
- 1:24:00Speaker 4: so they made the right decision. But when you have that,
- 1:24:03Speaker 4: if you're in that position to win the football game
- 1:24:05Speaker 4: after what they've gone through, I think you take your shot.
- 1:24:08Speaker 11: Absolutely. I would have done the same thing.
- 1:24:10Speaker 3: Yeah, well, especially since I mean even with a tie,
- 1:24:14Speaker 3: if you end up with a tie, rams still on
- 1:24:16Speaker 3: the tie break. Seemed like a no brainer to me.
- 1:24:18Speaker 11: There was right rationale for you.
- 1:24:21Speaker 8: Yea.
- 1:24:21Speaker 3: All right, gentlemen, excellent work. Thank you very much for everything.
- 1:24:25Speaker 3: Appreciate it. And I'm not going to be here early
- 1:24:29Speaker 3: next week, so I won't see you again. So Merry Christmas.
- 1:24:33Speaker 11: Merry Christmas, guys.
- 1:24:34Speaker 3: Happy holidays to both of you. Yeah, and we'll do
- 1:24:38Speaker 3: this again real soon.
- 1:24:39Speaker 11: Great, thank you, thank you.
- 1:24:40Speaker 6: So much.
- 1:24:40Speaker 3: All right, that'll do it for our edition of Monday
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