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The Magic Live Debrief #182 · The Magic Guys

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  They're guys. They do magic. They are the Magic Guys.
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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to episode 182 of the Magic Guys,
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  where we share our experience as professional magicians and all the whimsicalness that goes with it.
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  Up to my diagonal right, we have Nick Kay.
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  I was at Magic Live, bitches. And up to my diagonal left, we have Doug Kahn.
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  I've been glued to Nick K's social media for the last five days,
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  watching him be at Magic Live.
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  Yes, as I think we all have in our live chat right now, if you're watching this.
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  Thomas Conger, holy crapola. That might be a new tagline. I like it.
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  And we've got Scott Pease. Oh, he's changing from Scotty P to Scott P.
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  I like the nuance there. He's pro now. He's got to have that pro.
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  That's right. You do a gig. Just how Colin Cloud went from Colin McCloud to Colin Cloud.
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  Now we've got Scott P. I like it. We've got Fahrenheit.
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  Clever name. Clever name, my friend. And Dragotea. Look, the list goes on.
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  We're just, I mean, actually that is the end of the list, but Dave Nicholson.
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  What's up? Yes. Magic Live, the dream one day. Well, there is one man who lived
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  that dream and he went to that live magic.
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  Good to have you back, Nick. Nick, how are you feeling? It's good to be back, man.
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  A lot of people have been asking how is the jet lag and so forth,
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  but the reality is that when I go to Vegas, I never truly adapt to the native time.
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  I basically run on Melbourne time the entire time I'm there. Oh.
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  I never go to bed before 4 a.m., just hanging out and jamming.
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  I sleep three or four hours.
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  I go to a morning session, and I'll tell you guys all about that experience. Okay.
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  As it goes along but first how are you guys i missed you i'm
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  sad i've been depressed all week looking at your social media that
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  i wasn't in vegas with all the cool stuff i'm not
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  fully mentally well today it's not
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  just your fault but if i don't make it to magic live next
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  year i know this i'm not turning facebook on the whole
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  damn week i don't need
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  to see the pain well i can i can
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  highly recommend it man like it was so great and you're
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  among such good company the entire time you're there it's like walking
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  into the internet almost you know what i mean like it's it's really wonderful
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  it's like a live instagram feed except
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  they're really there that's a cool way to think about it
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  holy moly well you'll be glad to know we we held the fort while you were gone
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  nick we did an episode and we played your voicemail that you left us thank you
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  for that showing off all of the already cool people you'd met before magic live
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  had started i gotta ask well you know I'm sure you're going to tell us a lot about a lot,
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  but did you have much of an interaction with Dan White?
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  He's someone I've always wanted to meet and never been anywhere near.
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  Only in passing. He's a very kind guy, just very quiet by nature,
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  but he was typically three or four people deep in conversation.
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  He was surrounded by Danny Garcia most of the time, Peter Turner,
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  mentalist Peter Turner was also there.
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  Just hogging the Dan White.
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  Yeah. And it's, it's to be expected. And I'm not somebody who likes to fight for attention.
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  You know what I mean? I, I look, I'm very opportune in the moments I have to
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  talk to people and I ask if it's an appropriate time to do that just respectfully.
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  And I can tell you what those interactions were like. black and then you
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  know and then after you say hello to them do you say
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  now do you want to see my coin stuff my card stuff or my award-winning
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  stuff uh and
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  well you know i also sorry before you take off as well
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  you know who your your connection would have been to to meet
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  them like was um dennis kim said he was there at magic live and
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  is shocked that he didn't run into you so didn't see him
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  did not see him anywhere i can't understand
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  that happened like i mean there's 1500 hundred magicians there
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  right do you feel you saw everyone there yeah now actually it says here andy
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  uh we did meet so i was fortunate enough to meet nick gay so i was catching
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  the elevator out that morning and andy was like hey i'm like yeah he's like you used to be in a band.
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  Yeah when you proceeded to do shots in the
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  elevator vayner excellent that
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  was great it was really great so look i'll tell you what i was
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  there for several days prior but i'll mention
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  what what my adventures were like if you guys are up for it because it was something
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  kind of special what happened whilst i was there now penn and teller whilst
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  touring australia and especially in melbourne i had the pleasure of setting
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  up a friendship with teller lovely lovely fellow that he is so i dropped him
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  a line that i was in town while I was prior to Magic Live.
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  And he kindly invited me over to his home.
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  And so we went to his home, a very secret destination, heavily guarded and heavily fortified.
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  And he invited both myself and my business partner, Nathan Hedger, to hang out with him.
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  And his home was such an experience in itself, right?
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  It was wonderful. It was very welcoming. He's very kind.
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  And it's very eclectic. He's got a home where almost every wall has next to
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  no space because it's all just compassed with photos and just magic memorabilia and signed things.
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  Yeah, his house, indeed, his actual home. he was kind
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  enough to invite us over and we had some cornbread with
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  custard and blueberries and some hibiscus tea
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  and so we had a very very fun you know fancy
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  fun time and i can go into to the details about it but in truth it's almost
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  very difficult to recreate what his home is like because it's built like a maze
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  and it is just secret room upon secret room upon secret room to get in and out
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  of everything you know hilarious like hilariously there was a table that he
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  had They kind of expanded to make it like an eight seat table.
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  And beneath it was a, was a skeleton.
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  And as you extend the table, the table screams in pain and the skeleton.
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  And, and then he was like, Oh, hang on a second. This is, it's just the three
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  of us having tea, right? You can probably make it smaller.
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  And then I, I it's like a giant wheelhouse, like from like a boat.
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  And I start to unwind it to, and it's going, Oh, it's better.
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  Like just, you know, alleviate in that. So we're having tea in his kitchen and it's just,
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  surrounded by all of this memorabilia from
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  his time at the on the
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  big bang theory and also he's a very big simpsons fan
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  and so you know we had out we had our tea and we
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  cleaned up for the evening we grabbed our teas and we we sort
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  of pressed on to the library and you know
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  he's like this is some of the library and as we're sort of going through the
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  books and he's showing us everything he's like oh and naturally bang he pulls
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  a book and then the library opens into his oh wow come on so we then enter into
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  his office and we're sitting around a round table and he's just sharing.
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  Stories upon stories about history and it
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  it's such a privilege to to get
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  into i think i have goosebumps right now just
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  for the record yeah it doesn't get much better than that
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  right it doesn't it doesn't like you're sitting in the
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  man's home where he creates in his office and you
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  know i was asking questions about and we were talking about like
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  the you know the indian mango trick and how he
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  saw it for the first time and how it's done and other experiences and we're
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  talking about all these different methods to make pot plants and things appear
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  and one of the most amazing bits was he goes what would happen is because he
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  knew the history so well he was like they would they would play this song and
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  he would leap out of his chair and go to his computer and he would play the
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  song and then run back to the table and describe what was happening.
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  And, and, and, and as he's doing this, like he's, he's so in it.
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  And he explained what it was like when he first saw it, you know what I mean?
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  And, and, and as he's doing this, like he's got tears coming out of his eyes.
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  What? As he's telling the story, like he's just reliving that moment.
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  And he's sharing it with us, you know, he's sharing so much.
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  There was this giant crucifix in the, in, in, in the office.
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  And in that office was like, it was basically a piece of memorabilia that the Houdini had used.
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  And it was a means of sort of escaping from that. And I won't get into like
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  the secrets within that, but it was really, really cool.
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  And what was even cooler was that he was explaining that, you know,
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  he stayed with some friends and he was working on the cups and balls while I was quite young.
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  And he was like, oh, I was just working on cups and balls. was like what do you take those cups
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  there in this blue bag and it was like i've been practicing with those those were
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  the cups that belonged to hoffs and sir oh my god come
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  on yeah and then and then he's like here they
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  are and he puts them on the table and i'm literally handling hoffs and
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  sir's cups you know it's staggering
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  doug there was a gentleman and
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  and i'm trying to recall his name i was i was racking my
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  brain but with the the lack of sleep i've had over the several
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  week or so i can't recall but there
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  was a gentleman who who who basically had
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  this routine a lot of beautiful routines using cards coins whatever else he
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  also did a thing with the kettle where you would listen to a kettle do you know
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  this gentleman i'm talking about is don something perhaps from from the past
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  or a modern performer yes the talking tea kettle who Who did that trick? Hmm.
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  Well, we're talking about the mythology of this person and how his works would
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  have got lost to time and how Teller basically saved this guy's works.
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  You know, they went back to this home where, like, it had been sold on and the
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  new family that were there, it was like, you know, we were looking to do some
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  history on this particular magician.
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  And I'm so regretful. I can't remember who it is because I didn't know who he
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  was, but he shared this. David Abbott?
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  David Abbott. it. Thank you. Yeah. I Googled it up. So there we go.
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  I'm pretty good with the sleight of hand references, but you give me some actual
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  magic history from like that. I'm lost with the stage things.
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  So with all the Abbott magic and all the sort of things, like he was talking
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  about how they went, went through all the difficulties of trying to like save
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  his works and maintain it and all the beautiful things he created.
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  And they came across, um.
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  Copies of his books and his notes but all of the figures were
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  missing like all of the pictures that accompanied the explanations
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  all gone but then they managed to find negatives
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  of the actual photographs and they're like great now
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  we got to figure out which applies to which and they went through all this
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  time figuring that out and then just most recently they managed
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  to find the full original with all
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  the original notes and the original pictures and everything in
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  there that's going to be coming out that that level of
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  work and the thing is it got this close to being destroyed in
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  a fire and they managed to save it all this
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  work is thankful like thankfully to
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  tell her like doing this and and putting these
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  efforts in is absolutely amazing but yeah
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  it's it's absolutely amazing this is wild and this
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  is all by the way this is all before magic live
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  has even started even begun correct and
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  so you could have come back to brisbane uh
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  sorry you could have come back to melbourne and been perfectly fulfilled with
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  that experience it sounds like honestly after like the first day of magic live
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  before like just on the day of registration i'd had so much fun that i was like
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  if i had to fly home tomorrow i'd be like this is great like that's That's how
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  content I was with all my time that I was there.
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  I just Googled Teller's age. He's 76.
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  How amazing is that, that you can still have such passion for your art and share
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  it and love it so much in 76 and still so active. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
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  He's in, he's in great shape. He's, he's, you know, taking care of himself.
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  He has had his issues in the past, but he seemed to have gotten on top of that.
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  As you do, you sort of, you know, the wheels come off.
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  76. I just hope I can get out of bed. That would be my goal for the day.
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  Get out of bed. That's it.
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  But he's doing great. And with how many staircases and things in his house,
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  you need to be in shape just to get around that thing.
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  So after spending a lot of time there, what was wonderful, he handed me this book.
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  It was a very, very, very old book. And he explained to me that this is a copy of,
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  of the book where the first magic trick was ever printed in this.
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  And it's a book on like discovery of witchcraft. You held the discovery of witchcraft.
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  I held it. I held it through it.
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  I, yeah, it was basically like a, like a knife through tongue type of thing,
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  explaining how it worked in there.
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  And yeah, yeah. But I, like there was the OG copy, like, there you go.
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  Wow. Wow. There can't be too many of those on the planet.
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  I can't imagine there's more than, did you get a number?
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  Did he say, no, I didn't dig into it that, that far, But erroneous,
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  it's pretty special for him to just be like, check this out.
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  Did you touch the book? You actually touched it? Yeah, absolutely.
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  Man, I think that book's staying under glass if it's in my house.
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  Well, I asked him, I go, don't I need gloves? And he goes, no,
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  you don't need to because the way the paper is made with the wax and the blah,
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  blah, blah, it's not an issue.
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  You can use it all you like. That's why the book's so old and it looks great. Wow, cool.
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  Staggering. Absolutely staggering. Yeah.
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  And so we're talking about all this sort of stuff. we're talking about
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  pictures and stories and he's like this is the thing and
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  that's where the crucifix was in this particular photo and this is when houdini
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  was doing this escape with this particular thing and it was
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  amazing one of my most favorite moments was when we first arrived he explained
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  he's like this is a photograph it was you know
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  it's like it's really cool it's like this guy from wherever he
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  was from it was like belgium he's like he takes these photographs but in x-ray and
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  it was an x-ray photo of a rabbit in a
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  hat but it was like an x-ray so you kind of see
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  the rabbit in the in the hat you're like oh you know
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  this is really cool and and then it was like yeah
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  i love this photo i kind of love the idea of like the rabbit jumping out at
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  some point i think i just think it's cute i'm like it is really cute so we
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  do the whole tour and then as we're leaving he
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  stops and stands there for a second and he says he says a little something and
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  then walks away just enough for us to notice that the rabbit has left the
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  hat like oh
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  lee but he plans so many beautiful bits of
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  magic for us like we he's got this giant metal
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  bear he originally saved it from i think like a like a
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  nature reserve and so forth and then put it in his backyard
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  and then put a speaker in it so when you go down it's like.
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  Hey nick how's it going thanks for coming to
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  visit and you know he does a card force and
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  it was like you're thinking of this card like he just he put so many
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  bits of magic around the house for us to experience as we walked
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  about so it's like a very very magical tour of
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  his home and it's just just
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  to sit opposite him just to high-five him would
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  have been enough you know like it was.
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  Yeah such an epic experience we sat in this room for a while and we talked about
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  all things magic we talked all history until eventually it was like okay let's
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  let's move on you know and and so we we go on through the tour and we go through
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  a few more bits and he shows us other bits of the house and bits of history
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  his partner gene has a very big
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  love for movies and so forth.
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  He's got so many signed copies of Gone with the Wind.
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  And, you know, costumes from that era and from those movies and so forth.
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  And Clark Gable, you know, played the lead role, the male lead role in that
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  movie, like signed pictures of him and they're all over the wall.
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  So just experiencing that was just so cool, man.
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  Like it was just so cool as well as all the books in the library.
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  And it was just staggering, you know, and there's a couple other bits that I'm
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  not sure if I should even mention because it was just so crazy and wild.
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  And I feel like he led us into this realm that was so private that I don't feel
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  like it's respectful to sort of share what I, what I'd seen,
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  you know, like in his, in his gym and in his swimming pool.
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  And I'll say that much, you know, but it was just such an amazing experience
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  and his level of kindness and the design of his home is, is very unique.
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  It's very, very cool. Very functional.
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  Yeah. It's just, just a remarkable experience. I'm so happy for you.
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  Yeah. Fuck! Yeah, I'll be for you.
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  We deserve this, Normanda. We deserve every bit of it. I know. I know. Yeah.
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  So after we hung out and we did a wonderful tour and was just really educated
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  on these beautiful stories, very personal stories about his life and his birthday
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  parties and so forth, you know, like the coffin.
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  There's a coffin in the hallway, and there was a whole experience and story as to why that was there.
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  You know you know even just the time being on the tv shows
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  time with the simpsons all the other things he was into it was
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  just it was just wonderful you know to hear it from his mouth
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  to my ears and so once that wrapped up he
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  was kind enough to say you guys will be guests at my show at the penn and teller
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  show tonight at the rio so we said thank you kindly and he had to get a haircut
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  and get some things done and so we we parted ways that evening and then we went
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  home washed up and then went to go see the show and you know we hand in our
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  tickets and they said oh you know,
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  when the show finishes, don't leave, just stay put.
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  And then we'll go backstage and hang out afterwards. I'm like, that sounds wonderful.
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  So as I'm walking through, Javi Benitez is there in the front row.
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  If you don't know who he is, he's done some of the most wonderful work on palming
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  that I've ever seen an amazing Spanish magician.
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  And to me, probably the strongest performer of the entire magic live.
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  Wow. Wow. Like he was so strong. Like he opened Did you do Spongebob magic on
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  Penn and Teller? Is that correct? Or am I wrong?
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  That was Gabriel who did that. He's sending me an escape to be right now.
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  But he was here recently in Melbourne for the Melbourne Magic Festival. He was phenomenal.
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  Lovely, lovely guy. And strong magic. You know, that whole Spanish realm.
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  These guys are all sort of mentored by Miguel Angalgea, who's one of my favorite coin guys.
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  Miguel was there, but I was too scared to sit down with him.
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  You know when you don't want to meet your heroes?
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  That's Miguel for me. Like, I don't want to sit there for too long.
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  Like I had a polite conversation and even it's that sort of thing with teller,
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  but like, I guess I've spent enough time with tellers as time has gone on that.
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  It's like, I'm okay to sit with him now, you know, but yeah,
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  that fear of meeting those people.
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  So anyway, back circling back to the show, he's there with a bunch of other
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  awesome Spanish magicians. We're sitting down.
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  Then I ended up sitting next to a Martin Christensen, who was the 2022 FISM winner.
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  And Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How did you say his name?
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  Martin right yeah i this
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  is the he's from one of the first denmark
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  i reacted to one of his full-loss videos and i
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  was so blown away by his creativity if anyone
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  hasn't watched it before he goes into what nick's
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  about to go into like he basically starts with
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  a video a performance of like whatever happens to this
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  picture will happen to me or whatever
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  happens to me will happen to this picture and he does just some really creative
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  stuff that you don't expect to see happen and i'm
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  just saying that to foreshadow you going to watch it that's all but um
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  he seems like a really nice guy on film
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  so what was he like so lovely so
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  lovely like he you know
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  when you meet people and they just sort of become part of your magic dna like
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  they influence you in some way or another other it was like
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  that being around these guys you know like you have
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  these conversations and their words matter to you
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  you know when you got people like that that you care about and
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  they say stuff it really hits you and you kind of it
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  becomes a part of you and i it's a weird way of saying it but i've met so.
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  Many like so many people that i did bump into they're like that guy's
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  my part of my magic dna like things that he says i
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  believe and i carry that with me in my magic
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  ethos now and it was really nice
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  having a chat with him because denmark is such a small place he's
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  like like he's like name three denmark magicians like rune and
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  who else him wow it's like yeah like
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  i can't think of anyone else and you know one of the conversations we had was
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  kind of like you know the the strangest thing is when you meet people you know
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  and then they think like oh i'm like you and it's like i'm a magician i'm just
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  like you it's like well you're not like me because you know,
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  like I've said it in the past, it's like,
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  I'm not a cover band, you know, I'm not doing other people's stuff.
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  Like I'm creating all this stuff from scratch. And I'm saying,
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  and I loved it because I said to him that when you see these performers and this level of like.
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  Manipulation and, and these techniques to like levitate playing cards and all this kind of stuff,
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  you know, and I'll touch upon some of the things that I saw as we,
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  as we touch upon magic live, and we'll try to wrap this up, but it's just this
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  level of creativity that you're really going to appreciate because it's not
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  taught anywhere. It's not in a book.
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  It's not anywhere. They just gone. I'm going to figure this out.
• 21:04
  And, and he goes, that's what you got to do. You You don't wait for it.
• 21:09
  You don't look for it. You just figure it out.
• 21:11
  Don't fool around. Just figure it out in your own way.
• 21:15
  And it's a scary place to be because I remember going into that realm myself
• 21:18
  where I was like, I really want to do this thing, but I can't find it.
• 21:20
  Or I found that when I was creating in my early days that I would create something,
• 21:25
  but then it already existed.
• 21:26
  And then I got to the point where it was like, I've created something.
• 21:29
  Now I need to go find where it exists.
• 21:31
  It doesn't matter, man. It doesn't matter. You came up with it independently, and out it goes, right?
• 21:38
  And then when you do find out that it does belong to someone,
• 21:40
  you can say, I came up with this myself one day, although it does already exist, credited to blah.
• 21:44
  You do the right thing in that sense, but you don't need to validate everything you create.
• 21:49
  You don't need to do that, okay? So I digress.
• 21:52
  But my interaction with him was absolutely wonderful, and the story doesn't end with him just there.
• 21:57
  But I got to sit with him, watch this show, which was absolutely brilliant.
• 22:01
  They did some extremely fooling magic.
• 22:03
  I finally got to see the cow vanish, which is a river, a very,
• 22:07
  like a rarity to be able to do at the Penn and Teller show. It's a live cow vanish.
• 22:11
  Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh, I say it's a cow. It's actually a pygmy elephant.
• 22:17
  That's right. Yeah.
• 22:19
  It's a pygmy elephant that makes chocolate.
• 22:25
  So brilliant stuff. They did this whole routine and I don't want to give anything
• 22:28
  away in case you see it, but it's this whole, thing that you're like, what is going on here?
• 22:33
  And then it circles back quite literally. And it's like, this is genius.
• 22:37
  Like it blows your mind how clever this, this is.
• 22:40
  I absolutely love this. So show finishes, we're all hanging about and it's just
• 22:44
  myself and a bunch of other Spanish magicians and a few other, few other cats.
• 22:48
  And we all get invited backstage and Penn's there and Teller's there and we're
• 22:52
  all shaking hands and Penn's talking about music and we're all just circled around Penn.
• 22:56
  And he's just talking about like Bob Dylan and touring and everything else and
• 22:59
  and all their level of creativity, and playing bass, and music, and.
• 23:03
  It was really cool. We got gifted some show bags with some stuff for being there.
• 23:10
  This is ill before Magic Live. Yeah, this is before Magic Live.
• 23:14
  How was the show attendance-wise? I know the Rio is kind of on the down spiral.
• 23:20
  Is that showroom still filling up?
• 23:22
  I believe it was their first show in three weeks or three months.
• 23:29
  They've been gone for quite a while. Okay. And so it was basically like their
• 23:32
  first show is like, we haven't performed in X amount of time. He explained.
• 23:36
  So, yeah, so we might be a little rusty, but they were great.
• 23:39
  They were absolutely brilliant.
• 23:40
  So it might be rusty after performing for 50 years together.
• 23:43
  Yeah, exactly. You know, so was the theater full?
• 23:47
  That's what I was kind of asking to the brim packed house. The brim.
• 23:52
  Absolutely. Not surprised. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was.
• 23:55
  I've heard bad things about the Rio recently. like
• 23:58
  it's not the best vegas resort to
• 24:02
  stay at well okay i
• 24:05
  don't know about that but it was my first time visiting there and i i liked
• 24:08
  it i thought it was cute like walking about there there
• 24:11
  was the funny thing was there was also a star trek convention
• 24:14
  oh fascinating wow so that's
• 24:17
  awesome that was fun a bunch of people all dressed up in cosplay mucking
• 24:20
  about like the nerdiest of the nerds convened on
• 24:22
  vegas in the same week star trek and magic yeah
• 24:26
  i mean hedger and i ended up going to like a guy fieri
• 24:30
  taco like mexican restaurant and just you know making space for all these trekkies
• 24:34
  who were just trying to get a feed and i was like oh we got some space here
• 24:37
  guys if you want to sit at the bar and i was like oh great we're sitting with
• 24:39
  these these lovely ladies you know they're probably like in their 60s and 70s
• 24:42
  all dressed up to the nines with the blonde hair like you know yeah all this
• 24:46
  sort of that that seems like that that's like
• 24:49
  the perfect scenery for shooting street magic, like,
• 24:53
  I'm sure there was plenty of street magic shot. Magic guy shows Trekkie the Jedi force.
• 24:59
  This is all wrong. That whole sentence is wrong. But you know what I mean?
• 25:04
  Magic guy beams up card to his hand for Star Trek. We're never going to get
• 25:10
  to the actual convention tonight.
• 25:13
  We're on day one of Nixon. This is going to be a three-part series, okay?
• 25:18
  Look, we'll plow through the rest of it. What ended up happening after that was we finished up.
• 25:23
  Hanging out with everyone and you know these lovely spanish
• 25:26
  magicians we all set up a friendship and we wanted to get a bite to eat so we
• 25:29
  ended up going to fair fremont street which i'd never been to before that place
• 25:34
  wild right yeah it is wild if you guys scope out my instagram which is nick
• 25:40
  k magic all one word you can see some of the bits of us walking about with martin
• 25:46
  and everyone else through Fremont street.
• 25:48
  It is wild. I never seen anything like it.
• 25:51
  So yeah, we did that until stupid hours of the morning, then called it a night,
• 25:55
  you know, and then basically checked into curious.
• 25:57
  If you saw any street performers, I know it's hot that this time of year,
• 26:01
  but I know there's guys working Fremont. Did you see anybody?
• 26:04
  I didn't see any magicians, man. That was the thing. There was no magicians
• 26:07
  there, unfortunately, but I saw it. They're all at magic live. I mean, probably.
• 26:11
  Yeah. Or preparing for it or about to go there type of thing,
• 26:14
  you know, but it was brutal.
• 26:16
  To do magic in 100 degrees, no matter, right? I mean, it's just...
• 26:21
  Brutal yeah i mean for the aussie listeners i think it
• 26:24
  was like 34 degrees at like two in
• 26:27
  the morning damn zero relief yeah that
• 26:31
  is that is my recollection of the time i went to
• 26:33
  magic live was you just freaking stayed in the hotel the whole time unless you're
• 26:37
  going to the pool because it was just disgusting pool time was great time absolutely
• 26:42
  so yeah so you know that was it and you know it was a wonderful night i appreciate
• 26:47
  teller's kindness and and trust to allow us to to go into his home and experience
• 26:52
  something so wonderful.
• 26:53
  And I hope I didn't break any rules by explaining how wonderful it was or upset
• 26:57
  him, but like it, it was, it was great.
• 26:59
  And I'm memories there, man. Talk about a lifetime memory. Wow.
• 27:04
  Yeah. Yeah. Well, he will be back in Australia come February.
• 27:07
  And he said, you got to organize some stuff, whatever you organize,
• 27:10
  just count me in, just do it. And I was like, we can do that.
• 27:12
  So yeah, that's right. He's touring. He's touring in January.
• 27:16
  What are the chances we can meet up together and do like a
• 27:19
  live interview with him or something like put some like
• 27:22
  a like a double camera live pod something
• 27:26
  to think about we got a few months see if i can push the
• 27:29
  friendship but let's start now we've sort of
• 27:32
  hit the halfway point with magic live all right so i wanted to make sure that
• 27:37
  i don't sort of forget everything so i have a copy of the program and everything
• 27:41
  that was covered so when you finish at magic live in the last night there's
• 27:44
  a great big party and they hand these out you have like a little token and you
• 27:48
  claim one of these things.
• 27:49
  Cute book. It's kind of, for those listening, it's a book that's kind of shaped
• 27:52
  like a oval, like a half circle.
• 27:54
  And inside is all your lecture notes. So everything that you saw and read and
• 27:57
  which is good because you weren't always able to catch all of the sessions just
• 28:01
  because of the time restraint.
• 28:03
  There was typically two groups. There was like a blue, sorry,
• 28:05
  a red group and a white group.
• 28:06
  And you weren't always able to see the same things, other people.
• 28:09
  And sometimes you were forced to see shows at like 11 o'clock at night.
• 28:12
  So what I thought I would do just to make sure that I don't miss anything.
• 28:15
  So to touch upon everything at Magic Live. So when you arrive at Magic Live, pretty typical stuff.
• 28:21
  You rock up, you get your badge, you get everything signed in.
• 28:25
  They also give you a backpack, which is dope. They give you like a full backpack.
• 28:29
  There's a bunch of program stuff in there explaining what the sessions are about.
• 28:32
  It's in this book here that I'm showing to screen.
• 28:35
  And just some of the bits that are going to be in there, the magicians,
• 28:38
  where the food is, things like that.
• 28:40
  So it's just your diligence in that front.
• 28:44
  Front but then you get all your bits in this so you can go put your
• 28:47
  lecture notes in buy your merch etc and just load that up so everyone's
• 28:50
  just walking around with these backpacks which is just just awesome that is
• 28:53
  awesome that's a great it is when you're asking big bucks for a for a convention
• 28:57
  you provide that kind of swag it's well played guys yeah yeah i think the year
• 29:03
  the year i went or that you were there too nick i think it was a hoodie or something but a backpack,
• 29:08
  so much more fun yeah they gave you a jumper they gave you a jumper in vegas yeah with like a little,
• 29:14
  little yeah yeah yeah we went straight to
• 29:17
  goodwill you know like i had no business yeah
• 29:20
  yeah it does look like a google play button you youtube that that actually is
• 29:25
  a youtube play button yeah yeah the square is the play button from from what's
• 29:31
  it called well and and that's a great question so dragotea did ask why does
• 29:35
  it look like a google play button that's because the theme this year was play.
• 29:39
  And so it's all about like play, play with magic, get like, get around it.
• 29:44
  And I'll touch upon the first session that sort of digs, dives into that.
• 29:47
  So the first session, so my program was like waking up in the morning and at
• 29:50
  10 o'clock going to these morning sessions.
• 29:53
  So it started off with a gentleman called John Cox who ended up finding a diary from Harry Houdini.
• 30:01
  And basically it was just before he went kind of large in 1899.
• 30:05
  And he basically,
• 30:07
  basically studied this thing to the point where he was able to decipher Houdini's
• 30:12
  rather poor handwriting and explore upon that and what they all meant.
• 30:17
  And there's entire pages that are blank. And basically this small book,
• 30:21
  it's a very, very small book,
• 30:23
  which was his diary is now being
• 30:26
  sort of interpreted and then
• 30:29
  going to be put into a coffee table book for those
• 30:32
  history buffs out out there who are big fans of the amazing harry houdini
• 30:35
  you have that to look forward to and it's basically pre-famous that's
• 30:40
  cool that's real magic show bits and what he got paid and then you know he sort
• 30:45
  of writes down in his diary when he started making the big bucks and things
• 30:48
  like that like it's very very fascinating so i really enjoyed that yeah there's
• 30:54
  another gentleman there which was curtis hickman the step beyond reality if
• 30:57
  you guys are familiar with the void it's a vr VR experience.
• 30:59
  And if you remember in the, in the lectures past, he talked about how he uses
• 31:04
  magic and VR to give him a sort of better experience.
• 31:07
  And he was talking about how he allowed, like how magic is used in conjunction
• 31:12
  with VR to give him experiences.
• 31:14
  So for example, if you're standing on a podium and it's like an elevator,
• 31:18
  you push a button, you want to make it feel like you're going up.
• 31:21
  So what happens is you push the button and then the button goes down, which gives you
• 31:24
  the feeling that you're going up in the vr world and
• 31:28
  it just basically explains all these different ways you can experience things in
• 31:31
  virtual reality which is super cool nick defante was
• 31:34
  the guy who was focusing on the playing and he explained that
• 31:37
  everyone got a a yo-yo with
• 31:41
  their actual show bag for lack of a better word and he was explaining how like
• 31:47
  just playing with this is kind of healthy even to take a break from magic and
• 31:51
  use the yo-yo to sort of inspire things he He did a very hilarious thing where
• 31:55
  he actually got a person to dress up in like a full red,
• 31:58
  almost like green screen outfit, but it's red.
• 32:01
  And he had like a ribbon and he was explaining with this person how to do tricks
• 32:04
  as a yo-yo with the person playing the role of the yo-yo.
• 32:08
  Hold on. Do you have this yo-yo with you?
• 32:10
  Yeah. Can you do a little walk the dog or a rock the baby for a dragoteer here? It says do a trick.
• 32:17
  I remember learning. I haven't unwound it. It's still got its little sticky
• 32:20
  bits on there and so forth. And just for the sake of time.
• 32:23
  But apparently it's a good one. It's a spinner. It's like a proper spinner,
• 32:26
  like one of those sorts of numbers. Are you a yo-yo guy, Nick?
• 32:30
  I was. I was sort of just for kicks. But yeah, I got some friends that are deeply
• 32:35
  into it and actually do it in their magic tricks.
• 32:37
  You know, like they kind of throw cards in the air and then it ends up stuck
• 32:40
  inside the yo-yo type of thing.
• 32:42
  My friend David Chu does that. I'll be seeing him in Malaysia very soon.
• 32:46
  I'll say quickly as well. I've always thought, so for Trick of Day May,
• 32:50
  I used a yo-yo for a trick once. And because when you unwind a yo-yo, it's a string.
• 32:56
  And so I did that and then did a cut and restored rope with the string.
• 33:00
  So you take it out, cut it, then restore it again, back to normal,
• 33:03
  bring the yo-yo back up. I'm surprised people don't.
• 33:07
  Start exploring with yo-yos, my friends. That's all I'm saying.
• 33:09
  But now, you know, 1,500 magicians now have a yo-yo, so I'm sure someone's going to do something with it.
• 33:17
  But you've basically got a rope that makes sense why you have a rope now,
• 33:21
  you know? Yeah. Anyway, something to think about.
• 33:23
  No, that's great advice, man. I'll sort of base through this relatively quickly
• 33:27
  as far as these sessions go, right? We'll go through all the morning sessions and power on.
• 33:30
  Well, just as well, it's also like the stuff that happened out,
• 33:35
  Now, you know, the shenanigans you got up to, I think, is what everyone wants
• 33:38
  to also hear about. So please don't leave out those details.
• 33:42
  For me to live vicariously through you. Okay.
• 33:45
  Absolutely. So there was a couple other bits. Young and Strange,
• 33:49
  the amazing UK duo, they were hosting this particular session.
• 33:52
  We did a tutorial on how the Baby Spikes works.
• 33:56
  For those of you that don't know what the Baby Spikes illusion is,
• 33:58
  it's effectively a very large cardboard box. And then you have close to 20 odd
• 34:04
  dowels, long wooden sticks of dowel that are sharpened at each end.
• 34:09
  And you basically put your assistant in the box. You stab the crap out of the box.
• 34:14
  And the person in there is stuck. They wear the white flag. Typically,
• 34:18
  everything gets pulled out. They come out unscathed.
• 34:21
  And they explain that illusion. And that whole tutorial was called like the
• 34:24
  $9 illusion because the box is $9 and away you go.
• 34:28
  So very, very cool trick. And it was very cool to see. I've seen it many a times,
• 34:31
  but they actually showed it with like an overhead camera on what's involved
• 34:34
  with actually achieving that illusion, which is super duper cool.
• 34:38
  The next, another morning session was Adriana Cabron, who's responsible for
• 34:42
  the end book test is probably one of his most recent, amazing feats.
• 34:47
  And he basically did a creativity class, which was super cool.
• 34:50
  He's a great creator, Angelo Carbone, man, like he doesn't miss,
• 34:55
  miss. So yeah, I'm sure that was great.
• 34:58
  Yeah. And thankfully what he also did was he basically had these like three
• 35:01
  wheels that you would spin just for the sake of creating.
• 35:03
  He was kind enough to make one
• 35:07
  in such a way that it's online and you scan a qr code
• 35:09
  and you can like do your own spins and and
• 35:12
  do that i don't think it would be to share that we might share that on
• 35:15
  the discord for fun you know so you guys can have a bit of a creative tinker
• 35:19
  with it you know so yeah so we did that we had the auto shaping perceptions
• 35:23
  by gabrielle wehrlein that was pretty cool and then there was a children's magic
• 35:28
  one that actually got cancelled so yeah mike is talking
• 35:32
  about my favorite lecture which i will mention shortly now in
• 35:36
  the next general session there was master pain who was hosting the whole thing he did
• 35:38
  a very good presentation on how to present this was
• 35:42
  probably one of the one of the better general sessions that day
• 35:44
  because it was all about presentation and so forth but for me the standout person
• 35:48
  in that one was actually john armstrong oh john armstrong spoke and man brilliant
• 35:56
  and and what the most important thing And just so you get the most value out of this episode,
• 36:02
  this is what you need to take away from John Armstrong's lecture or his talk.
• 36:08
  Close-up magic is conversational and stage magic is presentational.
• 36:15
  Okay? Say it again.
• 36:19
  Close-up magic, conversational. Stage magic, presentational.
• 36:23
  When you understand that it just makes
• 36:27
  so much sense why someone like myself
• 36:30
  who can chat to the cows come home crushes it in the close-up game
• 36:33
  you know in a roving sense because i can do that and i can you
• 36:37
  know but yeah when people think they can just translate this
• 36:40
  conversational skill set to the stage they're doing it
• 36:42
  wrong because you need to present in the cleanest
• 36:45
  most direct most appropriate way you know
• 36:48
  so he covers all that and the many different methods
• 36:51
  in order to do that and how to recent book published on
• 36:54
  kind of that whole subject i think winning is
• 36:57
  that the name of the book on yeah it might be right magic to
• 37:01
  the stage and yeah so one of
• 37:04
  the things he touched upon thanks for bringing that up doug because what he
• 37:06
  actually said was you know
• 37:07
  it's like oh how did you go on stage like oh i killed it i killed i killed the
• 37:10
  audience because we don't kill the audience we win the audience we win the audience
• 37:14
  right you know what i mean so how'd you go did you win i won i won them i won
• 37:18
  their affection i won their respect i won them so So when you think about that
• 37:22
  concept of winning your audience over, very important stuff.
• 37:25
  So then there was a gentleman who, who from the CIA, who was talking about how to profile people.
• 37:31
  So you can choose the most appropriate spectator. That was wild. Um.
• 37:36
  Emily Robinson, who did this amazing Akon, Carter, any number on Fool Us.
• 37:43
  She explained how that works.
• 37:45
  Is this the one that everyone was like, it was com what's the right word?
• 37:50
  It was Confederate. Confederate is what you're thinking.
• 37:53
  Controversial where they were like, you know, yeah. With the,
• 37:57
  the one that had the handheld mic, right?
• 37:59
  Correct. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Controversial. Why?
• 38:04
  Well, people thought that, wasn't there a thing going around?
• 38:07
  Oh, she just, well, I don't know if I want to say methods, but it was like, she just, you know.
• 38:11
  I love it when people accuse magicians of cheating.
• 38:19
  Yeah. There was something about like, she just dubbed his voice or something
• 38:23
  or rather, and is that fair to, you know, to do in the show or whatever, whatever. I don't know.
• 38:28
  But it was great because it made people talk about it. So, you know,
• 38:30
  it's not a bad thing. It's just what I remember hearing about it.
• 38:33
  It was great. It was very good. Andrew main.
• 38:35
  There's a name you haven't heard in a while. Yeah. I saw a picture of him. Yeah. How fun was that?
• 38:40
  He was awesome. It was so great to sit opposite him. This guy,
• 38:44
  his brain is too big for his head.
• 38:47
  Is he still active in magic? Dude, you know what he does? What does he do?
• 38:51
  He's like one of the top guys for like chat GTP.
• 38:56
  Wow. That's not surprising. You know, he's smarty.
• 39:00
  So yeah, like chat GTP for, his name's there like he was like and remain did this stuff like the guy.
• 39:07
  Genius and also for chat gpt as well or just chat gtp whatever it's called but
• 39:15
  that whole come on now you know what we love it i keep equating it to like car
• 39:21
  racing because i'm that guy but you know i'm talking about yeah chat r2d2 did
• 39:25
  you race cars did you do that
• 39:27
  while you were there i didn't do race cars we'll move
• 39:30
  on with the con then i didn't think it i didn't think it was appropriate with
• 39:33
  the lack of sleep that i had during the day i felt like being at the wheel of
• 39:37
  a four hundred thousand dollar supercar with three hours sleep was a bad idea
• 39:41
  so i decided against it so the other cool thing above that was dynamo was a guest speaker.
• 39:49
  Oh yeah and so he did a a talk about how he's sort of rebranding from the dynamo
• 39:55
  name to the steve name. That's going to be hard.
• 39:59
  Yeah. Yeah. Well, he's gone through some stuff. He's gone through some health
• 40:01
  issues and so forth. And he was very open about that, which was cool.
• 40:05
  Yeah. So that was super cool. The next focus session, there was.
• 40:10
  Javier Benitez, who did his stuff, super funny stuff. He does this bit with, like, false teeth.
• 40:16
  God, it's so funny. If you watch my shorts on my Instagram, you can see some of that stuff.
• 40:22
  Christian Engbaum did some stuff with rubber bands and whatever else.
• 40:25
  And then Chris Philpott and Steve Valentine, whom I love, did some acting for
• 40:31
  magicians stuff, which I thought was very important because a lot of people
• 40:33
  don't think about that. Very important stuff.
• 40:36
  Over the last year, I've become the biggest Steve Valentine fan.
• 40:39
  Man. Like he's such a pro, such a lovely guy. And he has this ability.
• 40:43
  I don't know how he does it, but like when you, when he says hello to you,
• 40:46
  you feel like the most important person in the world.
• 40:48
  You're like, nothing else matters. He just has this like gravitas.
• 40:52
  It's amazing. He's a beautiful human.
• 40:54
  The next session was like interviews one after the other, where they had more
• 40:57
  team Christensen, Danny Garcia, Christopher Hart, Taylor Hughes,
• 41:01
  Eric Tate, and Rachel wax.
• 41:02
  And they basically, every time somebody finished an interview,
• 41:06
  they then became the interviewer and then the next person became the interviewee.
• 41:11
  And I just kept swapping over like this.
• 41:12
  You're doing what, like 10, 15 minutes each? Is that what it is? Yeah. Move on? I like it.
• 41:18
  That was basically it. And I think that it's not mentioned here,
• 41:21
  but in that session, I do recall that Mike Cavney got up and did some talks
• 41:26
  about learning magic online and so forth, in which he also brought up Dave Liamson.
• 41:30
  They talked about Dave Liamson's slide school and all the different platforms
• 41:33
  in which you can learn magic online and through proper schools and through good
• 41:38
  tutelage and sure enough the amazing dog con his school got a.
• 41:43
  What learn slide hand.com the magic
• 41:46
  is parked about you bet oh yeah do the blatant plug there we are that's right
• 41:53
  learn slide a hand.com got a great big plug in front of all the magicians at
• 41:58
  magic live and yeah yeah looking forward to when that all comes to fruition
• 42:02
  the other thing outside of that was Miguel Angelgea did a lecture.
• 42:06
  I was struggling to stay awake for that one just because of,
• 42:09
  you know, it's just Wednesday, the third night in.
• 42:13
  Probably one of the best lectures. I think my favorite lecture,
• 42:16
  somebody did ask, which is my favorite lecture?
• 42:18
  It's pretty much between Javier Benitez and Miguel Angelgea.
• 42:24
  They're both sort of out of the same vein, but I think collectively those two
• 42:28
  were the biggest influence for me.
• 42:30
  I took the most out of those two brian brushwood
• 42:33
  was there i actually had a bit of an embarrassing interaction with
• 42:36
  brian brushwood because i was i went to his stand to say hello and i
• 42:40
  was just sort of about to fall asleep mid-conversation and
• 42:43
  i was like i'm gonna pass out and i was like oh you have to excuse my manners
• 42:46
  brian i think i drank too much coffee and i haven't had enough sleep i must
• 42:48
  i think i need to hydrate maybe excuse me it was like yeah yeah go like i just
• 42:52
  felt like it was a rude way to end the conversation with him because he was
• 42:54
  so polite a good way to get out of a conversation actually yeah i need a glass of water i'm gonna.
• 43:05
  So I had to bail on that one. And then outside of that, there was a close-up
• 43:07
  clinic. Typically, these are where they have multiple tables.
• 43:10
  And these guys sitting at each table, and you sit with them,
• 43:13
  and they talk about things to teach. And you basically go between each one learning some stuff.
• 43:17
  Now, this close-up clinic consisted of these magicians.
• 43:20
  It was Norman Beck, Kent Gunn, Laura London, Jeff McBride, Gary Plants, right?
• 43:30
  Gary's a gem. Oh, isn't he just? Yeah. He really is.
• 43:35
  Yeah john wilson and paul wilson
• 43:38
  so that was really really cool to talk about all those guys did
• 43:41
  you get to see kink guns cups and balls did you see that okay
• 43:44
  no it's brilliant so happy to see him getting
• 43:47
  the spotlight on him this cups and balls routine is
• 43:51
  quite unique but yeah you know
• 43:56
  there was it was hard to fit everything in yeah right you know and in between
• 44:00
  that and even just from that getting to the dealer room damn near impossible
• 44:03
  but there's a few more things we'll touch upon which is basically they had shows
• 44:06
  each evening right so one of which was a show called tanto t-a-n-t-o with these
• 44:12
  two amazing magicians which was paco agrado and.
• 44:17
  Giancarlo scalia i love giancarlo scalia oh my god he is incredible well this
• 44:24
  this act was so brilliant so unique it was a full card show that played to i
• 44:30
  think maybe like it felt like of 300 people in this room, maybe more,
• 44:33
  with one table, one stage,
• 44:36
  and one screen, and it was brilliant, my friends. It was absolutely brilliant. Yeah.
• 44:44
  Just staggering. I don't toot my own horn a lot, but it's hard to fool me with a deck of cards.
• 44:51
  This guy smoked me over and over again at will with his travelers and palming.
• 44:58
  It's like, are you kidding me with what I'm seeing?
• 45:01
  It's the cleanest type of magic, and it's so impossible that it's just really staggering.
• 45:05
  So their act was absolutely brilliant. That was one of the most wonderful experiences
• 45:09
  we got to have in the show.
• 45:11
  As well as that, we also had another thing called the Close-Up Experience.
• 45:15
  The Close-Up Experience consisted of Javi Benitez, who opened the show.
• 45:20
  And I got to tell you, man, he was such a strong opener that nobody else could
• 45:25
  like hold a candle to his performance.
• 45:28
  He came out like so strong and so funny and so mind-blowing.
• 45:33
  Then he went like, and now to be serious for a second, and then closed this
• 45:38
  beautiful like FISM-esque type routine,
• 45:41
  which I think he may have done on Full House with some beautiful palming and some bits did
• 45:44
  all that and then like called it
• 45:48
  a night and then the next act came out the next act being danny
• 45:51
  garcia oh he came out and performed whoa
• 45:55
  he hasn't performed like years he said he hasn't done like actual performances
• 45:59
  in years so he's out there he did a show at tricks he was on the bill there
• 46:03
  in november that's a minor lie he and he crushed he kills well just words from
• 46:10
  his mouth he's like i haven't performed in like 10 years i was like oh Oh, okay,
• 46:13
  cool. He probably says that every time he goes on stage.
• 46:15
  Probably. Smart guy. Smart way to go about it. I might start saying that at
• 46:20
  every corporate gig. Yeah. I only performed like 10 minutes.
• 46:24
  Yeah. So it was him, Christian Engblom, which was great.
• 46:30
  Really fooling stuff and also Miguel Angel Gaya
• 46:33
  who closed the evening and rightly so like he covered
• 46:37
  everything he did in that show in his lecture and
• 46:40
  it was just staggering just geniusly staggering so that was that was really
• 46:44
  good another big and well I'll get to the juniors in just a moment because those
• 46:49
  guys were absolutely brilliant and I got to find out who these kids were because
• 46:52
  man can we can we can we also find out about the dealers hall absolutely there was a lot
• 46:57
  of you know now post magic live there's a lot of hype
• 47:00
  about tobias's liquefy or liquid
• 47:03
  i mean and and obviously he's he's
• 47:07
  tempted us with that routine in a lot of his videos in the
• 47:09
  past but now they're actually a product did you get to see it
• 47:12
  or did you buy one what's i
• 47:15
  thought about buying it but i was like it's just not what
• 47:19
  i want to do like i i want to do something original
• 47:22
  with a ring and i haven't quite tapped into
• 47:25
  it yet but i know that's not what i want to do but it's a beautiful effect if you
• 47:28
  haven't seen it where you can take a piece of metal or a ring
• 47:31
  and you dip your finger in it and it looks like it's turned to liquid and
• 47:34
  just by spinning it around your hand it turns into a ring
• 47:36
  on your finger it's very cool you know if
• 47:39
  i got one it'd be just as a utility to keep in the shelf but it's not something
• 47:42
  i want to perform immediately but i do think it's very cool is it because it's
• 47:46
  not something you would keep on you at a gig like is it yeah it was kind of
• 47:52
  a feeling it was that type of thing where it's like i get it but it's It's not
• 47:55
  going to enter my work in repertoire.
• 47:57
  Right. You know, but I would do it for like a piece. Sure.
• 48:01
  It's very cool. You get multiple colors, multiple different things to do.
• 48:05
  It's not just like one thing. So it's a very good kit for this effect.
• 48:09
  And I think it's totally worth it. Yes.
• 48:11
  Little big show was great. It was, you know, this way, Christian Morton performed
• 48:15
  his Fism act. Absolutely brilliant.
• 48:17
  There was Christian Hart, Rachel wax. We went over that. And these guys were absolutely brilliant.
• 48:21
  Okay. But what I want, I want to just give a quick plug to the juniors.
• 48:25
  So the juniors did their act. I actually think the juniors act was stronger
• 48:28
  than the actual close-up gala.
• 48:31
  It was hosted by a good friend, Taylor Hughes, and four amazing juniors who
• 48:36
  performed their acts. And it was just brilliant, man.
• 48:38
  Like I won't, just for the sake of time, I won't get into what their acts were
• 48:41
  like, but you know, one kid was a theater kid who performed his bit and absolutely slaughtered.
• 48:45
  There was the opening act who did a beautiful manipulation act where he had
• 48:49
  like a rose and did some stuff.
• 48:50
  And then the music stops and then you hear rain and then it's raining on the kid.
• 48:55
  Like he's just got rain running down his face and all over his suit.
• 48:59
  And he's just like producing water from places. Like, and he's a kid who's like,
• 49:03
  he's like 17 or something. Look, that's not easy.
• 49:07
  Magic with liquid is insanely challenging. Yeah.
• 49:11
  And he just did all this beautiful minute, you know, all these guys were brilliant.
• 49:15
  These other kids, Zach, he did this act with a headphones, like multiplying
• 49:19
  headphones, a very cool street esque type routine.
• 49:23
  Just like, I mean, You see that and you just think like, oh,
• 49:26
  thank God, magic is in safe hands. You know what I mean?
• 49:30
  So just absolutely wonderful. So that effectively covers everyone we needed
• 49:36
  to, like that's the little diary we was talking about.
• 49:38
  But with the remaining time that we have, I mean, we can talk about this for
• 49:42
  ages and ages, obviously, but I think we should touch upon the dealer's room
• 49:46
  because the dealer's room is always epic.
• 49:49
  I bought some bits. I didn't get too carried away. Okay.
• 49:52
  But I bought some bits. You didn't buy any drones this time.
• 49:56
  I didn't buy any drones this time. I did get close, but I was,
• 49:59
  yeah. Yeah, so I found this Jumbo Jumbo coin, and I was super happy to do that.
• 50:03
  Wait, where'd you get that? Where'd you get that thing? I got this from SEO
• 50:08
  Magic. SEO Magic. That's like a nine-incher, huh?
• 50:12
  Yeah, let me measure that. Is it plastic or metal?
• 50:16
  It's plastic. Yeah, all right. Which is good because... Nice.
• 50:20
  Yeah. The other thing is I wouldn't want to hand this out to the kids.
• 50:23
  The kids will snap it in half. You know, like it's the only thing.
• 50:26
  You know, you can hand out your normal Jumbo dollar, but this is a giant yeah
• 50:30
  that's gonna be good i was also gifted some old vintage magic from
• 50:35
  some friends up there so i got like fantazio candles
• 50:39
  like in full brand new condition those are right yeah like and and my friend
• 50:44
  and you know taylor hughes was like oh i know all this stuff and he showed me
• 50:47
  because wow it's so rare these are like fully brand new like they're never been
• 50:50
  used and i'm like yeah you've been wanting some of those like i love that gimmick the vanishing candle.
• 50:56
  Yeah. Actually, the appearing candle is the way to go because it goes both ways.
• 51:00
  Yeah. I don't even, you know.
• 51:02
  Yeah. I was also gifted an old vanishing birdcage because I...
• 51:07
  Playing with a bit of an idea with the old vanishing bird cage type of
• 51:09
  thing you know and you can oh yeah yeah like yeah and
• 51:12
  so i'm trying to think with that i got like
• 51:15
  a bunch of other like i got like a metal canes like full og metal
• 51:18
  canes from the 90s look at to me there was
• 51:22
  this really cute bunny like it's kind of like a rocco thing like a
• 51:25
  like a rocco raccoon but it's a little bunny you know
• 51:28
  what i mean i think oh yeah cool i think this
• 51:31
  i just had to have i just think it's so cute look at it i think that
• 51:34
  was that was a drunk buy i think maybe you hadn't slept much
• 51:37
  when you bought that you get a drunk buys this shot glass
• 51:40
  by tcc magic that's a good buy that
• 51:43
  is on the way that is on the way to me currently what is that what does that
• 51:48
  do basically you have you you you have a silk you show it you know front and
• 51:53
  back very very empty like hands totally like this you know and then you just
• 51:56
  shot glass it's a it's a new it's a new holdout for a shot glass Is it what it is? Okay.
• 52:03
  Okay. I bought a notifier from Illuminati Magic.
• 52:08
  I used some of their products already, and I just wanted to be able to slowly
• 52:12
  build upon a couple more ideas I had.
• 52:14
  They were very kind and spent a lot of time with me there. That was very,
• 52:17
  very cool. What is a notifier, Mr. K?
• 52:19
  It's basically for anyone who exists within the Illuminati ecosystem.
• 52:24
  You better finish that sentence.
• 52:27
  The Illuminati ecosystem. ecosystem,
• 52:29
  there is a lot of things that sort of communicate from with that.
• 52:33
  And basically this is a little miniature screen that can communicate to you
• 52:37
  either by, by, by vibrating or by actually showing certain entities that you might want to know.
• 52:42
  It might be something to the effect of like, take a card and put it under your
• 52:44
  seat and you can see what it is, you know, little things like that.
• 52:48
  Yes. Miracle class stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very clever stuff.
• 52:53
  I didn't, I've never had a thumb But I decided to get this one,
• 52:56
  which is called Epic Rider.
• 52:58
  I've sort of packaged it up because the package was quite large.
• 53:01
  Is that a Sharpie? No, it's actually a pen. A pen. It's an actual pen.
• 53:06
  And I liked that. I was like, this is good. So.
• 53:10
  Yeah, the LEDs are like sketchy at best, hard to control, and not something
• 53:15
  really anyone generally uses these days.
• 53:17
  That I really liked. I really, really liked that. So now there is,
• 53:22
  I also bought this from, this is the jumbo card trick by Martin Christensen.
• 53:27
  This is apparently it's just a very comedy based routine and it wasn't expensive
• 53:31
  and there was two left. And I was like, I'll take it. And then I was like,
• 53:34
  Hey, there's no tutorial.
• 53:35
  You got to teach this to me, my team. And he was like, send him an email.
• 53:39
  That's in a tier. I'm like, okay. So.
• 53:42
  And then after you left, he put another one more on the table. I mean, two left.
• 53:48
  I reckon that's how they get you. I got this amazing gimmick.
• 53:51
  I asked Bizarro to make this for me where you have like a jumbo coin and you
• 53:55
  just sort of peel back the chocolate and you can eat the chocolate.
• 53:58
  I saw, Pix, you were hanging with Bizarro too, right?
• 54:02
  Well, I've had a lot of good times with Bizarro.
• 54:05
  Bizarro was actually, well, he's very good friends with Doc Andrew. Yeah.
• 54:12
  Bizarro hasn't been on the show yet We need to get Bizarro on this show I'll
• 54:17
  reach out to him, man And ask him, absolutely He's got some stuff coming out,
• 54:20
  so I may as well sweat him for it Look, he should just come on We go way back,
• 54:23
  me and Bizarro Yeah, and so.
• 54:27
  When I first went to Magic Live He was very kind and took me To some cool places
• 54:31
  to eat And then took me to the What's it called?
• 54:35
  The Pinball Museum This is a
• 54:38
  pantomime yeah it's a pantomime yeah i
• 54:42
  bought this book from joshua j called the particle
• 54:44
  system and this is based off a new stack type
• 54:47
  work that he does i don't do
• 54:50
  a lot of stack work and i've been spending the past few weeks getting it around
• 54:53
  your monica and i thought hey why not let another stack that you don't
• 54:56
  know why that why that system can you give
• 54:59
  us uh i've not read in depth enough
• 55:01
  to know about it but from the very little that
• 55:04
  i read on the flight home and i i flew home at midnight so i
• 55:07
  didn't want to be that guy with the light on yeah getting everyone
• 55:10
  around him right but there is basically just a
• 55:13
  lot of cool things about it where within two shuff like two pharaoh shuffles
• 55:17
  it's it's within like you're in that stack and you can achieve all these types
• 55:20
  of things that's super easy to remember you can do a couple of things in which
• 55:25
  you know with a couple of cuts and shuffles that it basically goes back to like
• 55:30
  the new deck order type of finish and.
• 55:32
  Things like that yeah so even
• 55:35
  william fisher is saying like i wonder why you don't do more stack work
• 55:38
  i know i get it i get it because the stack is an index i
• 55:42
  get it you know so yes i am working on that but there was this thing here this
• 55:46
  is called gravity clips by vanishing ink and i wanted to give us a quick shout
• 55:49
  out because i don't know what to do with it just yet but i just know i had to
• 55:53
  have it and what it is it's a i'll describe it for the listeners out there but
• 55:57
  effectively it's It's just a bunch of bulldog clips on a string, okay?
• 56:02
  But what's cool about it, right? And in fact, maybe I can give you a quick demonstration
• 56:06
  as I sort of, I'll give it, as I circle back, I'll circle back with a demonstration in just a second.
• 56:12
  But a couple of other things that I saw was there was this particular deck that
• 56:17
  I bought from a gentleman called Peter.
• 56:20
  And it's the Invoke deck. Oh, I met that guy in Texas. That's a killer marked deck. Oh my God.
• 56:29
  Imagine a mark deck on steroid yeah that's
• 56:32
  true it's like mark like eight ways or something like
• 56:35
  that right it's it's it's insane yeah i
• 56:38
  and you know because the way we we we spoke about
• 56:41
  it was i was sharing ideas that i had and i
• 56:44
  had this idea for an effect and i
• 56:47
  was like i don't know how to do that and he was like i got you my guy give me
• 56:50
  a call and and that was
• 56:53
  literally how it went and so peter is an engineer who's now
• 56:56
  released this deck and he's trying to get it out there into to the market you
• 56:58
  know what i mean so yeah i would love to find a way to be able to help him but
• 57:02
  i'm going to show you this gravity clips thing as i slowly got set up as we're
• 57:06
  chatting away so the idea is is that you can kind of have a whole bunch of things
• 57:10
  sort of hung and i like this idea because you could probably have this in your
• 57:13
  apartment just holding photographs and stuff maybe some socks.
• 57:17
  And then they can are doing this correctly
• 57:20
  i think so and they can like make a choice and
• 57:23
  let's say that like hey choose one of these and and
• 57:26
  i go okay now just say drop and then everything drops
• 57:29
  except for one what oh my word
• 57:36
  that is exciting to see that
• 57:39
  and so i had to share this because
• 57:42
  i just feel that like i don't know what to do with it yet i've
• 57:45
  i've thought about a couple of things it's something that i
• 57:48
  haven't tapped into yet but i saw this and i just went there's something
• 57:52
  there there's something there it doesn't have to be cards anything
• 57:55
  the clip holds yeah and then the clip holds it could be anything it
• 57:57
  could be you know like and and then i just love the
• 58:00
  fact that it like it's not expensive i think it was 40 bucks wow nice
• 58:04
  can the spectators hold it is this something that can happen yeah you could
• 58:09
  have a spectator hold it but just keep in mind if it goes under tension that's
• 58:13
  what releases it so okay all right okay so i mean i don't think it's bad to
• 58:17
  expose it yeah because i i believe that just by showing this to this wonderful
• 58:21
  audience that you You guys will probably get around it.
• 58:23
  Yeah. So I have a feeling there's a, there's a, an old thing you do with.
• 58:31
  Like if there's five objects and, you know, you get them to think of one and
• 58:35
  then move, you know, a certain amount, depending on what number they're on.
• 58:39
  And you can basically force what they end up on. I feel like the starting point
• 58:42
  would be something like that.
• 58:44
  Yeah. You've got the audience now thinking about one object and then only that one stays hanging.
• 58:49
  Like maybe that's something to start off with. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways.
• 58:55
  I think, I don't know. I just, I feel like there's, there's something there.
• 58:58
  Like, I don't know what it is, but. It's just cool.
• 59:01
  And it's just cool. And I was like, I need that. So I'm going to scope out the
• 59:05
  tutorial. I think later on today, which I'm not going to show,
• 59:07
  but it's there and see what that's about.
• 59:08
  I also bought this thing here called emotions. I love this idea.
• 59:12
  This is a, basically a mock deck and in this deck on the, in,
• 59:16
  in between each one, there's like a list of emotions on there and you can get
• 59:20
  people to think of one and choose one and so forth.
• 59:22
  And you can basically identify what emotions they're thinking of.
• 59:25
  And I love this because I was like, there's an idea there. I have this idea
• 59:29
  of being like, you know, I'm 40 now and guess what? I'm very proud to announce
• 59:32
  I finally have a girlfriend.
• 59:34
  Why? Because I'm able to understand and read their emotions without even knowing
• 59:36
  a single thing. I'm going to prove it to you.
• 59:38
  I just have this idea of like presenting it in this very comedic,
• 59:42
  fun way where it's like you're thinking of a word and it's just like,
• 59:44
  you know, I'm like, just invoke that emotion. I go, you're either constipated or you're angry.
• 59:48
  I'm going to go with angry. You know, I think it's like a fun moment there that
• 59:51
  I can play with in my presentation.
• 59:53
  I got some amazing decks from Xavier Spade. I've got this thing here,
• 59:57
  Duality Pro. This is probably my favorite purchase.
• 1:00:01
  Duality Pro. Duality Pro by Cobra Magic. I wanted to buy a lot of stuff from Cobra Magic.
• 1:00:07
  They have this chair that's a gaff, and it's like it's structure balls as well.
• 1:00:14
  And I wanted that, but it just had this function that I wanted that it didn't have.
• 1:00:19
  And that's the only thing that sort of dodged me. But Duality is...
• 1:00:24
  Good. Like it's very good. It's basically the ability to do a prediction, a video prediction.
• 1:00:33
  So the effect, if I can, if I can describe the effect, okay.
• 1:00:36
  I had my mobile phone and I explained that you had to choose.
• 1:00:40
  I knew you're going to choose that number because before I came out,
• 1:00:43
  I made a video, let me play the video. And then I play the video and I say,
• 1:00:46
  Hey, I'm just backstage, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:00:49
  And there was a, this is how I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it like this.
• 1:00:51
  I go, I'm going to film this guy in the front row, that cat there.
• 1:00:54
  He's going to think of this, like, he's thinking of a number.
• 1:00:56
  I'm guessing it's going to be this. I'm going to, like, before I show you,
• 1:00:59
  like, think of the number. And, like, I knew you were going to say that.
• 1:01:01
  And you can show that it's written down, like, on a piece of paper.
• 1:01:04
  But you do it live. So I can literally do this and go, like,
• 1:01:08
  show you a video and go, Doug, name a two-digit number. And you say.
• 1:01:12
  32. Terrific. And then I just do this. And I got 32 written on the wall behind me on a piece of paper.
• 1:01:18
  Wow. That's cool. Yeah. It's a very, very clever piece. It's not cheap.
• 1:01:25
  Retail's a 400 US, but they were doing a special on it. So I bought it.
• 1:01:29
  But man, they only had two left. Yeah.
• 1:01:34
  Copeland coins have this amazing gaff, which I bought in the Eisenhower setup,
• 1:01:43
  to do what I think is probably some of the most fooling matrix work.
• 1:01:46
  I don't do matrix work. I wish I did. I don't particularly like it,
• 1:01:50
  but I saw this and I was like, I could use this for so many things that I decided to buy it.
• 1:01:56
  Big fan of Copeland Coins. I love Jeff Copeland and what he's doing over there.
• 1:02:00
  Those two boys, he and Sean, Roy and Sean, I have all the time in the world. I love them.
• 1:02:06
  I have all the time in the world for them. They're absolutely brilliant people. Yes. Good folks.
• 1:02:11
  Yep. I bought this thing called the AI system, which is basically a one-man
• 1:02:14
  show. You can cue your show from it using your phone.
• 1:02:17
  That was a very handy piece of kit. Who was selling that?
• 1:02:21
  That was also Cobra Magic. Cobra Magic, huh? Cobra Magic, yeah.
• 1:02:24
  Control your show with your phone, huh?
• 1:02:28
  Yep. So you have like a 30-day free trial on this one. Is that Bluetooth then? Yeah.
• 1:02:33
  And it comes with this remote. Okay, there we go.
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  It's about the size of a half dollar circular remote and you can cue your show
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  from that. What are they selling that for?
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  It's a subscription piece. Oh yeah, you said that. Five bucks a month or seven
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  bucks a month, depending on how much you commit to.
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  But Copeland, All the time in the world. Really nice people. Really sweet folk.
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  There was the stranger, which was a product by Jonathan Levitt.
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  And it's a thousand dollars for this product.
• 1:03:07
  He marked it down for the, for the what's it called? He's charging for that. Yeah.
• 1:03:14
  It's beast of a product. The modern wizard.
• 1:03:18
  It's, it's staggering how good this thing is. A thousand dollars.
• 1:03:23
  Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ouch.
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  Yeah. No, I didn't.
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  I didn't, but it's on my radar. Like if I have the capacity to perform it more
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  often, yeah, I would do that. Yeah.
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  Yeah. I have no beef about that. I think it's worth it. I'll say that much,
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  but man, it's really something.
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  I would love to actually invite him on the show to talk about the depth of it.
• 1:03:49
  You know what I mean? I'd love to invite a lot of these guys,
• 1:03:51
  Cobra Magic, to come on the show and say, let's talk about your products. You know what I mean?
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  With the time, seven minutes over time, we could talk about this at the cast,
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  come home, as well as the cool gaff decks and stuff that I come across, or this beautiful gift
• 1:04:03
  that I got from Teller, which is when I'm dead, all this will be yours by Joe
• 1:04:07
  Teller, a portrait by his kid Teller, which he signed for me on the inside.
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  Yep. There is it. There it is.
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  To Nick from your old pal and fan.
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  Oh my God. You bastard.
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  Well, look, with all of the magic live wisdom ensured in you,
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  let's take it out with the final word from Nick. I reckon. Let's do it.
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  So one of the cool things about magic live is not only
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  just seeing amazing products being
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  part of amazing lectures and so forth there is a
• 1:04:44
  very important second part of that which is outside of
• 1:04:48
  the actual lectures and the convention itself it's the times you sit around
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  the table making friends with strangers it's the time when you're sitting down
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  in the cafe having a slice of pizza and you see a magician sitting by himself
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  and you extend the hand of friendship and they come and sit with you and they're
• 1:05:03
  an amazing talent, an amazing person.
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  And it's those memories that I think are far more valuable than actually being
• 1:05:09
  part of Magic Live in itself.
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  It's the friends you make, the friends you catch up with, and it's the connections
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  you make in that sort of process.
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  So I think with that being said, you don't need a convention to experience that.
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  Extend the hand of friendship, do it kindly, play with your friends,
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  play with magic, and enjoy. Thanks for listening.
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  It's time for us to disappear now. Disappear now.
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  But we'll see you again on the next episode of the Magic Guys.