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Andre Ewing - Comments on Theetge, the mayor, city manager, and city hall · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: And happy Friday Eve in the house. Man. I'm telling
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  Speaker 1: you this guy gets me, Rile that he gets me
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  Speaker 1: shouting at the computer and doing high fives when no
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  Speaker 1: one's in the room and I'm watching what he has
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  Speaker 1: to say. Andre ewing curse breakers three hundred. He can
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  Speaker 1: explain to you about that again. But welcome back, Andrea.
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  Speaker 1: You are an outspoken i'll say, critic, but not always critic.
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  Speaker 1: You praise stuff that's good and you attack things politically
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  Speaker 1: that are bad. Retired police officer, you had thirty years
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  Speaker 1: of police a service under your belt, right, Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 1: you've seen it all. Yes, you remember the days before
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  Speaker 1: issue five, and you obviously there were problems. You can
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  Speaker 1: even mention that if you choose to, it wasn't a
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  Speaker 1: perfect system. Back then, I know a lot of police
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  Speaker 1: officers weren't thrilled with Chief Tom Striker being police chief.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, but now we have it completely politicized.
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  Speaker 1: And of course this conversation brought up because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of rumors swirling around the police chief. Thiji's job was
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  Speaker 1: on the line. She got hauled back from her police
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  Speaker 1: convention conference and sort of why did she go in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of all this chaos is question. But at
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  Speaker 1: least she wasn't well watching when it all hit the fan. So,
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  Speaker 1: but it's become politicized, Mayor, I have to have pervall
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  Speaker 1: the city manager have total control over who gets hired
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  Speaker 1: and who gets fired. And a lot of suggestions I
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  Speaker 1: know you were listening to Dan Hills this morning, that
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  Speaker 1: that creates this sort of capitulation someone who could be
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  Speaker 1: a strong leader, someone who might have great ideas about
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  Speaker 1: policing and might run a foul of what pervol and
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  Speaker 1: the manager and the city manager want, which means their
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  Speaker 1: jobs on the line if they disagree. That is not
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  Speaker 1: a good view from my standpoint. And here we find
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  Speaker 1: ourselves today a lot of crime in downtown. Have to
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  Speaker 1: have Pervoll, with his election on the line, doing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things, or at least paying lip service to it.
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  Speaker 1: But now we've got this wrinkle in the thing about
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  Speaker 1: maybe Chief Thiji's going to lose her job. Is any
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  Speaker 1: of this her fault? Andre Ewing, welcome back, man, Hey.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, brother Brian. It's always a pleasure. I
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  Speaker 2: want to give a shout out to my wife, Danielle Ewing,
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  Speaker 2: who's a police officer as Will and also a breast
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  Speaker 2: cancer survivor, so and Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Just want
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  Speaker 2: to talk to all my survivors and your thrivers, so
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  Speaker 2: we love you and keep fighting.
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  Speaker 1: Amen, thank you very much for bringing that up.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get down to the truth, brother Brian, because
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Water it down.
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  Speaker 2: I've always said that Fiji has no business being the chief.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Dan Hills was on the show talking about she
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  Speaker 2: did better than what I thought? What is better than? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we clearly said that Lisa Davis was the better choice.
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  Speaker 2: And what rings in my mind is December tenth, twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty two. That rings in my mind. Why because Cheryl
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  Speaker 2: Long and Scottie Johnson walked into District two and started
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  Speaker 2: to ask us questions, what chief do we want? And
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  Speaker 2: it's interesting because I've been on your show before and
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  Speaker 2: overwhelmingly we told the city manager, do not place Terretha
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  Speaker 2: Thiji out of chief position. And it was almost like
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  Speaker 2: we were begging her overwhelmingly one hundred percent in the room,
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  Speaker 2: and they did an assessment and overwhelmingly you heard even
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  Speaker 2: Dan Hill say, yeah, we weren't for Thiji. It was
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  Speaker 2: overwhelmingly and you still chose somebody that everybody said do
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  Speaker 2: not do. So I'm not gonna just say Thiji should
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  Speaker 2: go once again having a convention out of town during
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  Speaker 2: all this telling chiefs what what not to do and
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  Speaker 2: how to talk to criminals to just behave This is
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  Speaker 2: absolutely ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's revealing of a pattern, because as you
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  Speaker 1: were talking about that, who is most I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: city residents obviously impacted by who's running the police department,
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  Speaker 1: but that's one thing. But she is there to keep
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  Speaker 1: the police department organized, to hire and fire the right people,
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  Speaker 1: to give promotions to hopefully the merit based right people,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. So you're most impacted as a
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  Speaker 1: police officer. Overwhelming support for someone other than Thig. That
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  Speaker 1: sounds remarkably like the city council and this mayor's treatment
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  Speaker 1: of the residents of Hyde Park who were overwhelmingly against
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  Speaker 1: that damn development project so much so that they got
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  Speaker 1: it on the ballot to have it repealed. That's what
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  Speaker 1: forced the city to capitulate in this particular case. Doesn't
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  Speaker 1: sound like the city's capitulating anything. They're like, okay, you
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  Speaker 1: want that police chief, Sorry, screw you. Guys, we're going
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  Speaker 1: with dig anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, which is ridiculous. That's why Sheryl Long cannot get
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  Speaker 2: off the hook. And what makes her a specialist in
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  Speaker 2: picking and choosing the right police chief? What skills does
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  Speaker 2: she have to disregard an entire police force? And how
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  Speaker 2: do you just get that power from individuals who have
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  Speaker 2: no experience in policing? And we see the results of
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  Speaker 2: that decision. And so it's interesting because Fiji is collateral
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  Speaker 2: damage being placed in a position that it was really Hey, Chief,
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  Speaker 2: we're begging you don't take it because you're not ready.
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  Speaker 2: You're being set up by a highly political process. And
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  Speaker 2: this is the results of leadership. That's why I said
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  Speaker 2: AFTAB needs to go. Sheryl Long needs to go as
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  Speaker 2: well as Chief and Iris Rowly because we keep hearing
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  Speaker 2: about this collaborative agreement. Will somebody, a professional attorney sit
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  Speaker 2: down and really break down this entire process because you
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  Speaker 2: hear it so much. It's it's a document that we
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  Speaker 2: need to know what exactly is in those documents that
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  Speaker 2: appears to be that Iris has so much power in
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  Speaker 2: this situation.
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  Speaker 1: And we will bring that topic back up. We're bumping
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  Speaker 1: up against the break here Andre a Ewing, Brother Dre.
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  Speaker 1: You can find him online. He's going to revamp his
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  Speaker 1: Facebook page with currently it's Andre a Ewing. I follow him.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta watch his weekly videos. They are you'll find
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  Speaker 1: yourself high fiving no one in the room while he's
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  Speaker 1: talking about it. Forty five fifty five Charity Doug Zasion
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  Speaker 1: quickly mentioned for in exchange. Because you want to save
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  Speaker 1: everybody should be a talk station seven forty nine here
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  Speaker 1: fifty five krc DE talk station. Andre. You check him
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  Speaker 1: out on Facebook. I recommend you checking out what he
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  Speaker 1: has to say each and every week. Outspoken observer, critic,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes supporter, but things going on in the city
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  Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, bringing his thirty years of law enforcement experience
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  Speaker 1: and observations and never pulling any punches on it. So
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  Speaker 1: check him out. You said you're going to rename your
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  Speaker 1: page at some point, Andre.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sir, it's going to be under a Curse Breakers
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  Speaker 2: three hundred right now, caurse Breakers three hundred dash Brother
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  Speaker 2: Dre is going to be revamped, but it definitely a
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  Speaker 2: Brother Dre and Curse Breakers three hundred, So definitely let you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, all right, and you'd be doing the same thing
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  Speaker 1: even under the different A right, yes, because I would
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  Speaker 1: hate if that weren't away. Absolutely back to iris rol
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  Speaker 1: you've never personally seen the collaborative agreement? Are you suggesting?
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  Speaker 1: Is this kind of like a hidden document. It's not
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  Speaker 1: like I can't search for the Sensei Collaborative Agreement and
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  Speaker 1: come up with a full page PDF for the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: And it's interesting because nobody seems to know the heart
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  Speaker 2: of the collaborative agreement. The mayor has thrown it around
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  Speaker 2: a lot in the debate. He threw it up, and
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  Speaker 2: so what needs to happen to the citizens of Cincinnati
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  Speaker 2: since it's being brought up and Iris Rolli's name is
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  Speaker 2: being brought up presented to the city, read verbatim the
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  Speaker 2: structure and the importance of it. Now, we do understand
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  Speaker 2: that from the Tim Thomas murder, from the police officer
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  Speaker 2: and the issues that occurred there, that the collaborative agreement
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  Speaker 2: was started and the profiling that officers were doing, so
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  Speaker 2: it was needed, But now here we are it was refreshed.
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  Speaker 2: What exactly is in there? Because I'm tired of hearing
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  Speaker 2: about it and tired of hearing that she's at the
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  Speaker 2: table dictating what rules are in or not? So will
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  Speaker 2: somebody show us verbatim and that should come from the
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  Speaker 2: chief or city manager or mayor, since you're referring to
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  Speaker 2: it but showing us no facts of her position dealing
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  Speaker 2: with this all right?
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  Speaker 1: And I had read Signal ninety nine's post and there
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  Speaker 1: was a reference in there that Iris Roly did do
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  Speaker 1: a presentation to law enforcement officials and other services that
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  Speaker 1: the governor offered. So before you come here to work
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  Speaker 1: for two days a week, maybe now four days a week,
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  Speaker 1: you got to listen to a sermon by Iris Roley.
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  Speaker 1: I'm boiling down what she said. But presumably I can imagine,
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  Speaker 1: since she was there for the creation of and was
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  Speaker 1: an integral part of establishing the Collaborative Agreement, that she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't know what's in it. But is it everybody's understanding
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  Speaker 1: that she was telling the officers and officials what's in
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  Speaker 1: there and what they have to do by way of
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  Speaker 1: how to conduct their policing activities in the city, or
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  Speaker 1: was she providing her own version of it, because that's
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  Speaker 1: where the wording in the collaborative Agreement is so damn important.
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  Speaker 1: Question number two And I think you know the answer
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  Speaker 1: to this, or can guess it. Is there anything in
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  Speaker 1: the collaborate agreement that allows for the designation of a
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  Speaker 1: pope or an i mom or a grand poobah of
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  Speaker 1: the collaborative agreement? How did she land in that role
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  Speaker 1: as a highly paid consultant going around telling people how
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  Speaker 1: to do things?
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  Speaker 2: And you know what those are the mystery questions that
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  Speaker 2: need to be answered to find out exactly what is
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  Speaker 2: her position? As you see, it never was told to
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  Speaker 2: us even after everything occurred. And seeing this is where
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  Speaker 2: a chief Thiji is a problem as well, because you
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  Speaker 2: haven't spoken out even when she was out harassing officers,
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  Speaker 2: So what exactly is happening? No one actually came forward
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  Speaker 2: to present and say this is a problem. So until
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  Speaker 2: we actually know under what power she has, this is
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  Speaker 2: constantly going to be confused. She can address it to
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  Speaker 2: the osp and say we want you to follow this
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  Speaker 2: collaborative agreement and resources say that there was a memorandum
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  Speaker 2: that they had to sign and follow, but what are
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  Speaker 2: you following? And that is the question that the citizens
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  Speaker 2: and taxpayers need to know.
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  Speaker 1: That's an excellent observation, all right. Pivoting over to something
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  Speaker 1: the mayor seems to want to embrace and I know
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  Speaker 1: Cranleigh was wanted to embrace the idea of hiring more
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  Speaker 1: police officers. Were down a couple of hundred more taking
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  Speaker 1: early drop. I mean they're not even sticking out the
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  Speaker 1: entire drop program. They're just washing their hands up and saying,
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  Speaker 1: I'm out senior officers losing experience, and we don't have
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  Speaker 1: enough younger officers fill in the rank. So this concept
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  Speaker 1: of lateral hires has come up. Sounds brilliant. You know,
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  Speaker 1: dangle a carative incentive over here in the city of
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  Speaker 1: Cincinnati for someone to quit their suburban police officer job
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  Speaker 1: and work in the city. That sounds like a tough
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  Speaker 1: road to ho there, Andre Ewing, what in your perception
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  Speaker 1: should the city do to get people to want to
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  Speaker 1: come and work in the Cincinnai Police Department. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: is there a simple solution to that? Because everybody's climbing
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  Speaker 1: for officers out there in the world.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, and leadership is the key. Once again, no one
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  Speaker 2: wants to be a police officer. This is a serious issue,
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  Speaker 2: and this is why you release the full package with
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  Speaker 2: the OSP And this is interesting because this could be
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  Speaker 2: a test temperature to say we're gonna test how the OSP.
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  Speaker 2: We release the full package. We allow them to do
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  Speaker 2: their traffic stops, their investigations, help with cis all the
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  Speaker 2: things the police need. That means what more officers. So
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  Speaker 2: if you already have the funding to give us the OSP,
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  Speaker 2: why would you keep complaining about we need to hire
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  Speaker 2: more officers.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the test, baby, right here. Release all these officers
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  Speaker 3: at your disposal. This leadership is ridiculous. I just gave
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  Speaker 3: you the blueprint. Release it and see how this goes.
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  Speaker 3: And you will see when we get more officers. Here
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  Speaker 3: is already the blueprint that's been set. Release the full package.
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  Speaker 1: Get the full package, get the officer back up to
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  Speaker 1: where they should be, and let's see if it works
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  Speaker 1: at least, right that's what you're saying. Absolutely try it out.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, maybe in six months from now, if
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  Speaker 1: they did all that, just flooded the streets with every
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  Speaker 1: day twenty four hours, seven days a week, the additional resources,
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  Speaker 1: and six months from now, if crime has gone up
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  Speaker 1: or things haven't changed, you can say, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: it isn't the amount of officers. It's got to be
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  Speaker 1: something else. Thank you very much, Andre Ewing. You are
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  Speaker 1: the vehicle for such logic and common sense to make
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  Speaker 1: it out to the residents and the folks that listen
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  Speaker 1: to this conversation on the fifty five Casey Morning Show.
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  Speaker 1: My friend, you always have a welcome spot here. I
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  Speaker 1: enjoy what you do every week, and again, I'll encourage
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  Speaker 1: my listeners to check out what you've got to say
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  Speaker 1: and enjoy your reaction to Andrea Ewing's words.