Latest / BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show / Route 66: Myth and Reality
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- 0:00John Summers is the motoring historian.
- 0:02He was a company car thrashing technology sales rep that turned into
- 0:06a fairly inept sports bike rider.
- 0:08Hailing from California, he collects cars and bikes built with plenty of
- 0:12cheap and fast and not much reliable.
- 0:15On his show, he gets together with various co-hosts to talk about new
- 0:18and old cars, driving, motorbikes, motor racing, and motoring travel.
- 0:35Good day, good morning, good afternoon.
- 0:38It is John Summers, the motoring historian, and again, I am
- 0:42on the road, this time rural Oklahoma, west of Oklahoma City.
- 0:50The bit where it starts to feel like plains and then like Texas instead of
- 0:56all nice rolling green hills and bucolic
- 1:01ponds, which Missouri is like, and a lot of Oklahoma is like that.
- 1:07I really must explore that area more.
- 1:09But I digress.
- 1:11So I'm on Route 66, aren't I?
- 1:14Theme of this episode is Route 66.
- 1:18Everyone's talking about Route 66 because it's the centenary
- 1:23of Route 66.
- 1:25What is Route 66?
- 1:28I mean, you probably know this, but it was a route designation, right?
- 1:33The highways agency at the time wanted to help people drive from one place to
- 1:38another, so they called roads things like Route 66 or earlier, the cross-country
- 1:45route was the Lincoln Highway, San Francisco to Times Square in New York.
- 1:50Route 66, of course, is Midwest, like Chicago, St. Louis, and then
- 1:56to Santa Monica, Los Angeles.
- 2:00Route 66 was a designation that was given in 1926, hence
- 2:06this being the centenary of it.
- 2:08What is there left?
- 2:10Well, the answer is, for as long as I've been talking to you, I've been running
- 2:15on 40 with the cruise set at a legal 75, and to my right there is Route 66.
- 2:22It's about 50, uh, oh, no, less than that.
- 2:26I would say at most 100 feet, probably only 50 feet from the
- 2:31road that I'm driving on now.
- 2:34It's a two-laner, but the surface is the original surface.
- 2:38Original to 1926.
- 2:41You say, "Well, Matt." Because obviously, right, the route changes shape over time.
- 2:48One of the tropes of Route 66 is the town which is bypassed by the
- 2:55road, bypassed where the main road, the freeway, Highway 40 that I'm on,
- 3:00bypassed by the road, the town dies.
- 3:04And of course, this story, this trope, is best expressed through the Pixar
- 3:09Cars movie that, you know, at one time 10, 15 years ago was really one of
- 3:15those, like Mickey Mouse, Coca-Cola, Harry Potter ubiquitously recognized.
- 3:22I think less so now based upon conversations with my students
- 3:26who are early 20s, late teens.
- 3:28But yeah, that might just be my students.
- 3:30It might reflect my students' international background.
- 3:33Either way, certainly with Queen and the Pixar franchise, the Pixar Cars
- 3:38movie franchise depicts this town, Radiator Springs, and so much of the
- 3:43imagery of the Cars movie is drawn from different parts of Route 66 mythology.
- 3:53Well, what is this Route 66
- 3:56mythology.
- 3:57What do I mean by that?
- 3:59I mean that, yes, there's the physical road there, and you can drive on it, but
- 4:05Route 66 is a whole lot more than that.
- 4:08Yes, John, there's museums, and there's all these silly world's largest rocking
- 4:13horse and world's largest clogs m- things to go and look at for the tourists now.
- 4:18Yes, yes, there is.
- 4:19And, and almost every exit where it says Route 66, there's a Route 66 museum.
- 4:24I, I mean to stop and go in one day and actually see what they've got and, you
- 4:29know, go deeper with the ephemera of what Route 66 is because a road that has
- 4:37a museum, not one museum, but lots of museums… Like, what would you put in
- 4:41a museum to the M5 motorway in England?
- 4:45You know, I don't know, like, a man with receding hair and a company
- 4:49car that has too many miles on it?
- 4:51I don't know.
- 4:51How would you, you de- depict that?
- 4:53But of course, that's not what these kind of museums are.
- 4:57They are full of the stuff that was by the side of the road to service
- 5:04people who were driving on Route 66.
- 5:07And then one of the things that I think's noticeable is in the
- 5:10old days, the cars were crap.
- 5:12You needed to stop a lot.
- 5:13It wasn't just that the roads go past the towns now, it's that cars used to
- 5:19really need gassing up pretty often.
- 5:21They used to need serious work, not uncommonly.
- 5:27So in other words, if the weather was damp, I could see my 1980s
- 5:32Ford Cortina not starting.
- 5:34I could easily see you driving out to a place like this, going to bed outside
- 5:40the motel, coming out, and your muscle era Ford, if it was anything like my
- 5:45'80s Cortinas, Sierras, that kind of thing, not starting because it was damp.
- 5:51The point I'm making here is that even comparatively recently, the '70s, the
- 5:56'80s, there was a lot more need for roadside service, roadside repair.
- 6:03Nowadays, you might be able to drive 100 miles between giant Love's truck stops.
- 6:10In the old days, you couldn't do that because vehicles would break down
- 6:15between that distance, so it would make sense for there to be service stations
- 6:19at far more frequent intersections.
- 6:22So the reason why there are so many dead buildings along Route 66 is because
- 6:28the distances cars and trucks can drive and the amount of service they need
- 6:34has progressively gotten to be less.
- 6:37I hope that makes sense So there are the physical manifestations left, the road
- 6:42itself, which you can drive on, which is an incredible, incredible thing that you
- 6:47can do it for thousands of miles literally from here in Oklahoma through New Mexico
- 6:55into California, the road runs parallel.
- 6:59Now, typically, and this is not surprising, the road is
- 7:03like a frontage road now.
- 7:05So when you get into a town, there's shops and businesses that
- 7:08have grown up along Route 66.
- 7:12Let's get out of this Ram fellow's way.
- 7:16There we go
- 7:20It's like bucolic.
- 7:21I just passed… There's a tree with black cows all sheltering from
- 7:26the monster heat underneath it.
- 7:28But it looks like, it looks like the kind of scene that could have been
- 7:32painted by Pizarro or one of those French landscape painters where you
- 7:37can actually see what they painted.
- 7:39They didn't just paint lilies in their back garden.
- 7:42Well, why don't you drive on Route 66, you're probably saying.
- 7:45Well, the answer is I did on the way here, and it took me ages, and I just
- 7:50need to cannonball a bit more right now.
- 7:52But is that losing the essence of Route 66?
- 7:55Well, I was thinking it might be.
- 7:57But here's the thing, if you cannonball like this, you
- 8:00actually see the country change.
- 8:01And here's the other thing, part of what Route 66 represents, I
- 8:08think, is a joined-up America, an America which is accessible.
- 8:13And therefore, driving on this road where you just set the cruise, you
- 8:19know, do whatever you like with your mind as you just drift down the highway
- 8:23here, this is America connected, isn't it, with this kind of, of highway?
- 8:31The whole notion of the modern American highway is wrapped up with Route 66 On
- 8:38the way across, I shot film and sort of talked as well about how the Route
- 8:4666 murals and things that you see, it's sort of from a particular time.
- 8:53So I was struck by one mural that featured a perfect Marina Blue 70 Chevelle SS.
- 9:02And, you know, it was on rally wheels.
- 9:04It was perfectly depicted on a mural in one town.
- 9:10And in another town nearby, when I was rolling, you know, on the way over here,
- 9:16there was this perfect 65, 64 and a half Mustang convertible in white, roof down.
- 9:24You know, you could see the VA emblem on the fender.
- 9:29I did as I rode past.
- 9:30So again, it's this notion that while the concept of what Route 66 might
- 9:38be is vague, we can nail it to this kind of car, this make model even.
- 9:47Well, that's really interesting, isn't it?
- 9:51Well, also those are from the 60s and the 70s, right, aren't they?
- 9:55So is that when the myth of Route 66 was there?
- 9:58Maybe when you read much about Route 66, they often talk about a show.
- 10:05I don't know if I remember if the show was called Route 66, but fundamentally it
- 10:10featured the sort of spirit of Route 66.
- 10:14And it was these two guys in a Corvette traveling around having adventure.
- 10:19A bit absurd if you think about it, because a Corvette's a terrible
- 10:22car to be traveling around in from place to place, a 50s Corvette.
- 10:26But it captured the romance of the road for a certain generation of Americans.
- 10:34And Route 66 is close to that.
- 10:40So to drive that older road
- 10:45is to wonder at what point in time you are stepping back to.
- 10:52What, what do you mean by that?
- 10:54Well, the idea of Route 66, I think, is
- 11:00tied in the era of those cars, the Mustang, the Chevelle,
- 11:04that this is the '60s, '70s.
- 11:10This is the era where all of the entertainment and movies came from
- 11:15Hollywood, and the rest of America culturally looked to Hollywood.
- 11:21You know, if you wanna make it big, you got on the Greyhound bus, and you went to
- 11:25Hollywood to make it big kind of thing.
- 11:28This, this is the myth of how it worked, right?
- 11:30Well, if that was the myth of how it worked, Route 66 was the mythical road
- 11:36that you were gonna get on to get there.
- 11:39So let's clarify that a little bit more.
- 11:41The magic of the road, the reason why there's all the museums, the mythology of
- 11:47the road, is all wrapped up, I believe, with the dreams that people had of
- 11:54going to Hollywood and making it as a movie star or as a actor, entertainer.
- 12:01What the dreams the everyday Americans had could be realized by
- 12:10going on Route 66 to Hollywood and achieving fame and wealth and glamour.
- 12:23Now let's just think about that idea of towns being bypassed.
- 12:26What does that look like?
- 12:27It looks like somebody recognizing that there's a section of road that's not very
- 12:33well-serviced if people have breakdowns, and so they open a, a gas station or
- 12:42a tire place or a free radiator water and clean bathrooms kind of place.
- 12:49They just open something that services motorists And if that
- 12:55business is successful, other businesses spring up nearby and
- 12:59communities grow up around that.
- 13:02So some of these places that you drive through on Route 66, I mean, they have
- 13:08schools, maybe only, you know, open from like the 20s to the 60s or something
- 13:13like that, but they had schools.
- 13:15Now, what I think is interesting about this is there are ghost towns
- 13:19in Nevada that, you know, look like complete Western towns and then 20
- 13:24years later are completely gone.
- 13:26By complete Western towns, I mean, you know, there's wooden buildings
- 13:30on both sides of the streets like you see in cowboy movies and loads of
- 13:34people walking around and, you know, horses tied up and saloons and that
- 13:41kind, you know, a bustling community.
- 13:43Well, even the wood goes in Nevada because it doesn't rot.
- 13:47So you can just take your buildings down and put them up somewhere else.
- 13:50So that's what people do, believe it or not.
- 13:52So this notion of community that comes into existence exists for a decade or
- 13:59two, walking and talking like a community which you as a European or an East Coaster
- 14:04might recognize and then just completely evaporating like some sort of weird tent
- 14:10city burning man meets the Wild West.
- 14:15That seems to be a reality for a lot of these communities.
- 14:21So let's go back to these towns.
- 14:24Let's go back to one of these towns.
- 14:25First the tire place, first just the tire place.
- 14:28Now the gas station.
- 14:30Now the shop.
- 14:31Now the antique shop.
- 14:33Now the used car salesman.
- 14:35Now the diesel truck service.
- 14:38So now there's a lot of people going backwards and forwards across
- 14:41the road and there's an accident.
- 14:44So they put in a stoplight.
- 14:46It's great, right?
- 14:47It makes people stop and look around and need to get traffic, right?
- 14:52Now the stoplight is a pitch point, isn't it?
- 14:56Especially if because of the stoplight, more people are stopping and getting out
- 15:01and buying their Indian souvenirs and their Coca-Colas and decided to stay in
- 15:07the themed motel that they're looking at.
- 15:10Given all of that, it's pretty easy to see why a decision might
- 15:15be taken to bypass that town.
- 15:17So you have the Radiator Springs scenario where the town, once so
- 15:22bustling because of the road, now is bypassed and falls into decline.
- 15:31So it's still out there running parallel now.
- 15:35And there are tumbled down buildings regularly.
- 15:41But what I would say is most of it is completely untraveled.
- 15:46And in all the time that, you know, I've spoken to
- 15:55you since we've been driving here, there has been no traffic on Route 66.
- 15:57So if you yourself choose to drive it, you have a weird experience
- 16:04because was it this quiet years ago?
- 16:07No, because that's why they built the main highway.
- 16:09But how well-traveled was it in 1928 in comparison to 1968?
- 16:17How much of 40 was actually built in 1968?
- 16:23By that I mean that you could look up individual sections, but
- 16:28the route is always evolving.
- 16:30I drove the wrong way coming through Tulsa.
- 16:34This is coming in the other direction, coming east through Tulsa.
- 16:37Just because of the way the freeways were laid out, I'd not done it before,
- 16:41I just found myself in the wrong lane, fast-moving, heavy traffic.
- 16:44It just took me the, the wrong way.
- 16:46This happens, doesn't it, in, in, in Europe, but quite often what they'll
- 16:50do at junctions like that is they'll redesign them to make it better.
- 16:54And coming through the other way today, I realized that that's exactly what
- 17:00they're doing, that they're doing a whole building project which is gonna
- 17:03move away from that kind of '50s looking freeway infrastructure to something
- 17:11that looks like it was, uh, you know, built to cope with the 21st century
- 17:20First blew by Cadillac Ranch.
- 17:23I did stop there the first time I came across the country.
- 17:26Actually recognized the hotel where I stayed and ordered the worst,
- 17:31slowest takeaway pizza I've ever had.
- 17:35I actually recognized that magenta on the way here through Amarillo.
- 17:41Cadillac Ranch, you've seen it, the graffitied Cadillacs in the ground.
- 17:46A Route 66 icon, they'll say.
- 17:49You have to stop.
- 17:50I mean, maybe.
- 17:52They're a long way from the freeway, so rather than looking impressive, they look
- 17:56a bit forlorn, and it's quite easy to miss them, especially if you're going west.
- 18:01Now, when I went, it was early in the morning, 7:30 in the
- 18:04morning, and I had them to myself.
- 18:06It was raining, so you couldn't really see them properly.
- 18:10But, you know, I, I had a experience.
- 18:14What I was trying to say?
- 18:15I, I'm… Am I trying to say I had an authentic experience that,
- 18:20you know, if you go with all… No, I'm not trying to say that.
- 18:24I'm trying to say that now, on the way into Amarillo, coming, if you're coming
- 18:30west, there's Volkswagens graffitied in the ground in the same way, and
- 18:37before you get to Cadillac Ranch, there is a RV park that has nicely painted
- 18:45Cadillacs, but with their fins in the air.
- 18:48I have a feeling they were fiberglass replicas.
- 18:51But why is something not cool if it's, like, done to death?
- 18:55I feel like that was a cool thing when it was just ironic artwork.
- 19:03Well, not ironic.
- 19:03I don't know what it was.
- 19:04When it was like an art installation that you could interact with,
- 19:08that was a deeply cool thing.
- 19:10When other people copied it, I don't know, that really seems to dilute the cool.
- 19:15Thank you, drive through.
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