Latest / Beautifully Complex / 368: Preparing for the Back-to-School Transition, with Penny Williams
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Part of this experience for nerudivergent kids is that environments
- 0:05Speaker 1: that aren't made for them are a struggle. We can't
- 0:08Speaker 1: completely take that away, but we can prepare for things
- 0:12Speaker 1: to go as smoothly as possible. And I want to
- 0:17Speaker 1: share those preparations with you. I want to share with
- 0:20Speaker 1: you what I learned after a lot of trial and
- 0:23Speaker 1: error that was really going to help.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Welcome to Beautifully Complex, where we unpack what it really
- 0:30Speaker 2: means to parent neurodivergent kids with dignity and clarity. I'm
- 0:35Speaker 2: Penny Williams, and I know firsthand how tough and transformative
- 0:39Speaker 2: this journey can be. Let's dive in and discover how
- 0:42Speaker 2: to raise regulated, resilient, beautifully complex kids together. Oh and
- 0:47Speaker 2: if you want more support, join our free community at
- 0:51Speaker 2: hub dot beautifully complex dot life.
- 0:57Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone. I am so excited to have you
- 1:01Speaker 1: here with me, all of you who are just wonderfully
- 1:06Speaker 1: carrying adults in the lives of a neurodivergent kid. I
- 1:11Speaker 1: want to talk to you about back to school. It's
- 1:14Speaker 1: the end of July, and I know for me, at
- 1:17Speaker 1: that point in the year, I was already bracing. I
- 1:22Speaker 1: was already cringing because I knew school was coming, and
- 1:28Speaker 1: school was so hard for my kid, so hard for
- 1:31Speaker 1: me honestly as well, and so I was bracing. I
- 1:37Speaker 1: was trying so hard mentally to stop time, to put
- 1:42Speaker 1: it off because it was just so hard, and I
- 1:46Speaker 1: wanted to protect my kid from those difficulties and really
- 1:51Speaker 1: protect myself. But of course we can't stop time. I
- 1:56Speaker 1: was unable to stop time. And eventually every year went
- 1:59Speaker 1: by and my kid graduated, and now here we are
- 2:03Speaker 1: as a young adult. And over the years, those thirteen
- 2:08Speaker 1: years of school, doing it with my own kid, it
- 2:13Speaker 1: taught me a few things the really hard way. I
- 2:17Speaker 1: learned a lot of lessons the really hard way. But
- 2:21Speaker 1: that means that you don't have to learn them the
- 2:24Speaker 1: hard way to write. You don't have to keep trying
- 2:28Speaker 1: things and them not work and struggle. Of course, I
- 2:31Speaker 1: don't have all the answers. Part of this experience for
- 2:35Speaker 1: neudivergent kids is that environments that aren't made for them
- 2:39Speaker 1: are a struggle. We can't completely take that away, but
- 2:42Speaker 1: we can prepare for things to go as smoothly as possible.
- 2:47Speaker 1: And I want to share those preparations with you. I
- 2:51Speaker 1: want to share with you what I learned after a
- 2:55Speaker 1: lot of trial and error that was really going to help.
- 2:59Speaker 1: I have five tips to share with you. All of
- 3:01Speaker 1: them you can start today. You don't need any supplies,
- 3:04Speaker 1: you don't need any preparation. They are sort of these
- 3:09Speaker 1: really easy quick wins that you can go ahead and
- 3:12Speaker 1: get started on for the impending school year, which is
- 3:17Speaker 1: going to come no matter how much we might try
- 3:20Speaker 1: to will it not to. The first tip that I
- 3:23Speaker 1: want to talk to you about is mornings. I cannot
- 3:26Speaker 1: tell you how many parents I have talked to in
- 3:29Speaker 1: coaching calls who want help with mornings, and we struggled
- 3:34Speaker 1: with mornings as well. There's a lot of executive function
- 3:37Speaker 1: required in the morning, and a lot of our nerdive,
- 3:41Speaker 1: vergent kids struggle with executive functioning. So right there, there's
- 3:44Speaker 1: already a likely gap between skill and what's required to
- 3:50Speaker 1: be able to manage themselves in the morning on their own.
- 3:53Speaker 1: But we can do things that mitigate that negative impact
- 3:57Speaker 1: of executive function deficits, things like visual routine charts. I've
- 4:03Speaker 1: talked about the visual routine card that I had for
- 4:06Speaker 1: my own kid for mornings many times before, but it
- 4:10Speaker 1: really changed everything, and it was the one and only
- 4:14Speaker 1: list or chart or checklist that had any positive influence
- 4:20Speaker 1: and impact. So I want you to not try necessarily
- 4:25Speaker 1: to systemize the whole morning at once, but pick the
- 4:29Speaker 1: single hardest transition in the mornings. What is it? Is
- 4:34Speaker 1: it coming from bed and waking up and getting up?
- 4:37Speaker 1: Is it going from eating breakfast which is pretty low demand,
- 4:42Speaker 1: to then having to put on clothes and get hygiene
- 4:46Speaker 1: and get your things prepared. Is it the transition out
- 4:50Speaker 1: the door and onto the school bus or into the car?
- 4:54Speaker 1: What is the thing that is the most difficult piece
- 4:57Speaker 1: of your mornings right now? And anchor on just that one?
- 5:01Speaker 1: Think about what can you do to help whatever is
- 5:05Speaker 1: getting in the way in that particular piece of the morning.
- 5:10Speaker 1: We have to start small. We have to get whins
- 5:13Speaker 1: where we can get them so that we feel confident
- 5:17Speaker 1: to keep going so our kid feels confident to keep
- 5:21Speaker 1: using the tools that we might be trying to provide
- 5:24Speaker 1: to them, because their buy in is the ultimate key.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Right If you have a kid that either that system
- 5:31Speaker 1: or tool doesn't work for them or they are not
- 5:34Speaker 1: interested in using it, then there is no chance of
- 5:39Speaker 1: success there. So pick one piece of the morning to
- 5:43Speaker 1: focus on write down maybe three to five things that
- 5:47Speaker 1: you think are getting in the way in that moment,
- 5:51Speaker 1: and then take it one step further and think about
- 5:54Speaker 1: what could you try that's different, because if it's not working,
- 5:58Speaker 1: then you have to do something different right. Bedtime is
- 6:03Speaker 1: probably the second most thing that parents talk to me
- 6:05Speaker 1: about as a parent coach. Bedtime is really difficult for
- 6:11Speaker 1: a lot of reasons, one of which is that going
- 6:14Speaker 1: to sleep and staying asleep is often difficult for neurodivergent kids,
- 6:20Speaker 1: and many of them are night owls, so asking them
- 6:22Speaker 1: to go to bed at a reasonable time is very
- 6:26Speaker 1: difficult because their body just doesn't function on that timeline. Also,
- 6:33Speaker 1: some kids have anxiety about going to sleep. They have
- 6:36Speaker 1: anxiety about being left alone in the room, but they
- 6:39Speaker 1: also have anxiety about being unconscious and what might happen
- 6:44Speaker 1: during that time. And then often they don't want to
- 6:48Speaker 1: stop doing fun things to go to sleep. Getting in
- 6:53Speaker 1: bed to go to sleep is boring. Why would you
- 6:56Speaker 1: want to do that right? Unless you are super tired
- 6:59Speaker 1: or you can really see the value and getting to
- 7:03Speaker 1: sleep or getting to bed earlier, you're going to have
- 7:07Speaker 1: a hard time doing it right. And so we want
- 7:10Speaker 1: to start shifting that bedtime routine now for the start
- 7:17Speaker 1: of school. Don't wait until the night before the first
- 7:21Speaker 1: day to start implementing an earlier sleep schedule. Now, if
- 7:25Speaker 1: you've kept the same sleep schedule all summer long, then
- 7:28Speaker 1: you're pretty golden in that aspect. What are other ways
- 7:32Speaker 1: that you might help to change the struggle with bedtime?
- 7:37Speaker 1: Sometimes there's a lot of executive function that goes into
- 7:40Speaker 1: bedtime too. We have to change our clothes. That means
- 7:43Speaker 1: finding our pajamas. That means putting our dirty clothes where
- 7:47Speaker 1: they're supposed to live. That could mean a length of
- 7:50Speaker 1: hygiene requirements, brushing teeth, washing face, maybe brushing hair, you know,
- 7:58Speaker 1: taking a shower, take a bath. There's lots of things
- 8:02Speaker 1: that sometimes we ask our kids to do at bedtime
- 8:05Speaker 1: that will require some executive functioning. So if they are
- 8:09Speaker 1: struggling with the executive functioning, what can you do to
- 8:13Speaker 1: try to help with that? Again, think about one spot
- 8:17Speaker 1: right now, just one It is a real hurdle, and
- 8:21Speaker 1: brainstorm a few things that might be getting in the way,
- 8:24Speaker 1: and then a few things you can do to mitigate
- 8:27Speaker 1: those hurdles. The body doesn't just reset on commands, so
- 8:33Speaker 1: It's really important if you're timing for summer and sleep
- 8:39Speaker 1: is different than your timeline for sleep during the school year,
- 8:42Speaker 1: that you build in a gradual window to shift and
- 8:47Speaker 1: adjust for that gradual is always going to work better
- 8:52Speaker 1: than a cold turkey sudden change. It just is. There
- 8:56Speaker 1: are also things that can help kids who struggle with
- 8:59Speaker 1: sleep by logically, like melatonin, sleepy time, tea, weighted blankets,
- 9:06Speaker 1: things like that could be really good tools to help
- 9:10Speaker 1: you during that time as well. Number three is homework.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Another one of the things that I hear parents seeking
- 9:21Speaker 1: help for a lot, but also homework was a huge
- 9:26Speaker 1: struggle for us because this kid was fighting all day
- 9:29Speaker 1: to keep it together to try to meet expectations. He
- 9:32Speaker 1: had no capacity when he got home for anything school related.
- 9:36Speaker 1: And also he has dysgraphia, and so he'd been asked
- 9:41Speaker 1: to write all day long. The last thing that he
- 9:45Speaker 1: wanted to do was write some more. It was so
- 9:49Speaker 1: taxing for him. So let's look at what can be
- 9:53Speaker 1: getting in the way of getting homework completed successfully. If
- 9:59Speaker 1: it is a a daily struggle, we need to first
- 10:03Speaker 1: ask is it motivation or is it a volume or
- 10:07Speaker 1: format problem. Most of the time it's not going to
- 10:11Speaker 1: be a motivation issue. It's really going to be an
- 10:16Speaker 1: availability to learn issue. Do I have the capacity? Do
- 10:21Speaker 1: I feel like I have enough support or accommodation to
- 10:25Speaker 1: be able to do this? That reframe alone is going
- 10:29Speaker 1: to change how you respond when you're struggling with homework.
- 10:34Speaker 1: But understand that when a child is not doing homework,
- 10:39Speaker 1: they're avoiding, they're refusing. Those are signals of a need.
- 10:45Speaker 1: Those are signals of a problem. What is getting in
- 10:49Speaker 1: the way Because kids really do want to please us,
- 10:53Speaker 1: They want to do the things that are expected of them.
- 10:56Speaker 1: If you're finding that that's not the case, then there's
- 11:00Speaker 1: something getting in the way. But I want you to
- 11:02Speaker 1: reframe it and think about the fact that it's actually
- 11:05Speaker 1: a can't and not a won't. It's a can't and
- 11:10Speaker 1: not a won't. Okay, Just that piece alone is going
- 11:14Speaker 1: to make things so much more insightful for you, Like
- 11:19Speaker 1: it's going to open your mind in a way that's
- 11:21Speaker 1: going to help to guide you toward figuring out what
- 11:25Speaker 1: that problem, that hurdle actually is. Sometimes it's about getting
- 11:31Speaker 1: reduced homework accommodation because a lot of our kids have
- 11:34Speaker 1: slow processing speed and they should not be punched for that.
- 11:38Speaker 1: So if the teacher for your child expects that they're
- 11:41Speaker 1: doing thirty minutes a night on homework and yet your
- 11:45Speaker 1: kid is taking them two hours, that's not okay. They
- 11:48Speaker 1: need reduced assignments. They should only be required to do
- 11:52Speaker 1: thirty minutes as well, not to do the whole assignment
- 11:55Speaker 1: until it's done, no matter how long it takes. Getting
- 11:58Speaker 1: creative leaning into what is your kids learning style? Are
- 12:03Speaker 1: they kinesthetic? Do they need movement, do they need texture?
- 12:07Speaker 1: Do they need more audio? Do they need more visual?
- 12:10Speaker 1: How can you adjust homework so that it leans into
- 12:14Speaker 1: that and works for them. The fourth tip that I
- 12:31Speaker 1: have for you is around school calls and school meetings
- 12:36Speaker 1: because they are in evitability for most of our nerdiversion kids.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Some nerdiversient kids are so fearful of getting in trouble
- 12:44Speaker 1: that they're able to somehow hold it together. But that's
- 12:47Speaker 1: not what we want for our kids. We don't want
- 12:49Speaker 1: their behavior to be governed by fear that is going
- 12:52Speaker 1: to harm them. So we want them to be able
- 12:56Speaker 1: to feel safe in the environment so that they can
- 13:01Speaker 1: be regulated so that we don't have challenging behavior. But
- 13:06Speaker 1: it can be a process to get there, especially if
- 13:09Speaker 1: you have a kid with a really sensitive nervous system,
- 13:12Speaker 1: or who is very easily disregulated, or maybe they kind
- 13:15Speaker 1: of live on the fringe of dysregulation and they're very vigilant.
- 13:19Speaker 1: Their nervous system is just right on the edge, hyper
- 13:22Speaker 1: vigilant all the time. That kind of thing leads to
- 13:27Speaker 1: not meeting expectations at school, which can then lead to
- 13:30Speaker 1: those calls in those school meetings. Right, so, I want
- 13:33Speaker 1: you to first decide about your non negotiables in a steady,
- 13:39Speaker 1: stable moment. Don't do it when you've had that first
- 13:43Speaker 1: call from school this coming year, or right before you're
- 13:46Speaker 1: going to have your first meeting. That's not the time. Now,
- 13:51Speaker 1: and when you're feeling pretty safe and comfortable yourself is
- 13:56Speaker 1: when you decide what your non negotiables are for your kid.
- 14:01Speaker 1: It's a non negotiable that they don't get suspended for
- 14:05Speaker 1: behavior or punished for behavior. Is a non negotiable that
- 14:09Speaker 1: they don't get separated from their peers. Is a non
- 14:13Speaker 1: negotiable that they don't have to do longer homework than
- 14:18Speaker 1: their peers. You know what is it for you that
- 14:22Speaker 1: is a hardline in the sand. You need to determine
- 14:26Speaker 1: that before you're involved in any conversation. Deciding under pressure
- 14:32Speaker 1: is a mistake. The disagreement may not be a mistake,
- 14:37Speaker 1: but getting really reactive and speaking in that reactive space
- 14:43Speaker 1: is likely going to be a mistake. I can tell
- 14:45Speaker 1: you from experience. There are many times where I said
- 14:50Speaker 1: things in a way because I was dysregulated, because I
- 14:53Speaker 1: was having a hard time that I wish I had
- 14:56Speaker 1: been able to say differently, or wish I could have
- 14:58Speaker 1: a do over on right. But knowing what your non
- 15:02Speaker 1: negotiables are helps you going into calls or meetings. But
- 15:07Speaker 1: I don't want you to be like a robot or
- 15:11Speaker 1: a soldier or super inflexible because you have some non negotiables.
- 15:17Speaker 1: It's not okay, Well, these are the things that I
- 15:20Speaker 1: must have or my kid must have, and that's what
- 15:24Speaker 1: you need to know. And I'm not bending right. We
- 15:27Speaker 1: have to go into it collaboratively. But knowing where your
- 15:32Speaker 1: boundaries are is important. It will help you in those
- 15:37Speaker 1: conversations and it will help you with your advocacy. And
- 15:42Speaker 1: then the fifth and final piece for back to school
- 15:46Speaker 1: is overwhelm. I want to help you with overwhelm, and
- 15:50Speaker 1: I know I can't erase it completely. But when we
- 15:54Speaker 1: are able to get sort of clear about what we
- 15:59Speaker 1: need to do, so not being anxious before we have
- 16:02Speaker 1: things to be anxious about right and really timing things
- 16:06Speaker 1: so that works for our own nervous system, then things
- 16:10Speaker 1: go more smoothly. You don't need a whole bunch of
- 16:14Speaker 1: new systems for the school year. You just need a
- 16:18Speaker 1: few things in place that are going to help make
- 16:22Speaker 1: that transition smoother for now. That's just what you need
- 16:25Speaker 1: to focus on. So one thing you could do right
- 16:29Speaker 1: now is to pick one spot in your house and
- 16:32Speaker 1: that is now the school infozone. Everything school information related
- 16:39Speaker 1: should be compiled in that spot for you and for
- 16:43Speaker 1: your kids, for everyone in the house. This is the
- 16:46Speaker 1: school infozone. This is a spot. It could be a basket.
- 16:50Speaker 1: It could be a bin. It could be you know,
- 16:52Speaker 1: a taped rectangle on top of a bookshelf with a
- 16:56Speaker 1: piece of paper there that says school infozone. It could
- 17:00Speaker 1: be a basket that hangs on the wall. It could
- 17:03Speaker 1: be a magnet on the fridge, a certain magnet that
- 17:06Speaker 1: holds all your school info. That might get heavy and
- 17:09Speaker 1: become a problem, but it's an idea. So what's going
- 17:12Speaker 1: to work for you and your family. Where can you
- 17:15Speaker 1: establish that this is the point where all the school
- 17:19Speaker 1: info goos. This is the point where you put your
- 17:21Speaker 1: papers that you need me to see your process. This
- 17:24Speaker 1: is where I put the papers that you need to
- 17:26Speaker 1: take back to school or you need to do something
- 17:28Speaker 1: with for school. Right, then be open to figuring out
- 17:33Speaker 1: the rest of that as you move through the timeline.
- 17:37Speaker 1: This is just one thing for one day tomorrow or
- 17:42Speaker 1: the day after. You might think about, Okay, where is
- 17:47Speaker 1: the drop zone our command center going to be? For us?
- 17:51Speaker 1: It was a backpack and a shoe cubby like a
- 17:54Speaker 1: hook behind the door, and a shoe cubby or a
- 17:56Speaker 1: shoe closet, And every time we came in or out
- 18:00Speaker 1: of the house, that stuff always went there first. That way,
- 18:04Speaker 1: we weren't looking for a matching shoe for twenty minutes
- 18:07Speaker 1: and late for school the next morning. Right, So be
- 18:11Speaker 1: thinking about other things. But I don't want you to
- 18:14Speaker 1: overwhelm yourself. I want you to take at one step
- 18:17Speaker 1: at a time, because here's the thing. Doing this well
- 18:21Speaker 1: for your specific kid usually takes more than I can
- 18:27Speaker 1: give you in one short podcast. And I would even
- 18:31Speaker 1: say it always takes more because we have complex kids, right,
- 18:35Speaker 1: So we need to look at a lot of different
- 18:39Speaker 1: things and consider a lot of different things, and there's
- 18:41Speaker 1: so many different moving parts. But you can only do
- 18:46Speaker 1: what you can do in the moment. So I want
- 18:49Speaker 1: you to really break it down, and I want you
- 18:51Speaker 1: to be thinking about it now until school starts. Don't
- 18:55Speaker 1: wait until the week before or the day before, because
- 19:00Speaker 1: then it is going to be a mad scramble and
- 19:02Speaker 1: it will be overwhelming. If any of that made a
- 19:06Speaker 1: lot of sense to you, if any of that sounded like, Ooh,
- 19:09Speaker 1: this might work, or oh that was the permission I
- 19:11Speaker 1: needed to slow down and take it one step at
- 19:15Speaker 1: a time. That's exactly what the back to school prep
- 19:18Speaker 1: week is, except I'm not just going to tell you
- 19:22Speaker 1: my tips and my ideas. We're actually going to sit
- 19:25Speaker 1: together on Zoom and build the actual things, live together
- 19:30Speaker 1: in a group customize tailored to your individual kid. So
- 19:36Speaker 1: we're going to design your kid's routine cards, your kid's
- 19:40Speaker 1: morning routine, bedtime routine, how that might look. What tools
- 19:44Speaker 1: might you use to overcome executive function struggles. We're going
- 19:50Speaker 1: to build your scripts for actual school meetings, IP meetings,
- 19:56Speaker 1: five oh four meetings. We're going to work together to
- 20:00Speaker 1: create a safety plan for your kid. What would it
- 20:04Speaker 1: take at school to help your kid feel safe, to
- 20:07Speaker 1: create an environment with queues of safety that their nervous
- 20:11Speaker 1: system needs. What would that look like at home? Let's
- 20:15Speaker 1: build it out for your specific kid. We have fourteen
- 20:20Speaker 1: different workshops and I believe it is ten or eleven
- 20:26Speaker 1: of them that is live. Eleven of them are live
- 20:29Speaker 1: together each day from noon to two pm. We tackle
- 20:33Speaker 1: two of them and we tackle it together, so we're
- 20:37Speaker 1: doing this in real time together. And everything that's part
- 20:41Speaker 1: of back to school prep week is all of the
- 20:45Speaker 1: stuff that I wish that I had had at the
- 20:47Speaker 1: beginning that I ended up learning the hard way. I
- 20:51Speaker 1: don't want you to learn it the hard way. I
- 20:53Speaker 1: don't want you to have a bunch of trial and error.
- 20:56Speaker 1: There's going to be some of that because you have
- 20:57Speaker 1: to customize this for your kid, But I can help
- 21:01Speaker 1: you to prepare for a lot of what is to
- 21:04Speaker 1: come in a way that's going to make the transition
- 21:07Speaker 1: back to school smooth and also your school year smoother.
- 21:12Speaker 1: And that's what I want for you. I really want
- 21:17Speaker 1: for you to be able to have a breath, Take
- 21:21Speaker 1: a breath, not freak out, not be overwhelmed, not have
- 21:26Speaker 1: so much dread. I want that to be a different
- 21:29Speaker 1: experience for you than it was for me in the
- 21:33Speaker 1: early years. Many of our parents who came to Back
- 21:36Speaker 1: to School Prep Week in twenty twenty five and twenty
- 21:38Speaker 1: twenty four said that it was so helpful that it
- 21:41Speaker 1: was a relief, that they felt truly prepared, that they
- 21:45Speaker 1: felt at ease more than they had before that. So
- 21:50Speaker 1: it really can make a big difference for you and
- 21:54Speaker 1: of course for your kid as well. So dates for
- 21:57Speaker 1: Back to School Prep Week or August third through the seventh,
- 22:00Speaker 1: twenty twenty six live. We have two different topics that
- 22:05Speaker 1: we go through in a two hour time block each day.
- 22:09Speaker 1: There is a twenty minute break in the middle so
- 22:12Speaker 1: that we can get what our nervous systems need. We
- 22:15Speaker 1: can have a break, we can breathe, we can get
- 22:17Speaker 1: some food, some water, we can walk around. Right. Well,
- 22:20Speaker 1: we'll have a break there, but we'll put two topics
- 22:23Speaker 1: together to make it easier for you to fit into
- 22:26Speaker 1: your schedule. So registration if you are interested PARENTINGADHD and
- 22:32Speaker 1: autism dot com slash prep slash pr EP. That's it.
- 22:39Speaker 1: All the information is there. We start Monday, August third.
- 22:43Speaker 1: I would love to see you there, but even if
- 22:46Speaker 1: I don't, go through the steps and the tips that
- 22:48Speaker 1: I've outlined here in this podcast episode, so you can
- 22:52Speaker 1: start to do some of your own prep to make
- 22:54Speaker 1: back to school transition a little bit easier for you
- 22:59Speaker 1: and your family. Take good care, guys, I'll see you
- 23:02Speaker 1: next time.
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