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128. Sarah's Journey To Flight · The Shift Podcast

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Welcome to Frontline Static, we will get to hear interviews with
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some of my clients journeys of getting into flight and how they
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utilize coaching to help them create success of getting hired
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with less confusion and more ease.
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Make your dream a reality of getting into flight.
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Listen in as you hear some of the stories of the people
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getting there and come join the Flight Prep group.
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OK, I'm so excited. I just needed to push record
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'cause we're starting to get to the good stuff before we even
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started recording. But I have Sarah with me today.
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She's been on the podcast before, but she just got hired
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into flight, so we're going to talk about her journey to flight
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today. So Sarah, do you want to
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introduce yourself? We'll start there.
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Yes, I'm Sarah Senior. I'm born and raised in Georgia
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and that's where I currently live with my family now.
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I've been in nursing for four years now, strictly in the ER.
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I decided I really wanted to get into fly and that was my goal.
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And then I happened to stumble upon Janessa's Instagram, full
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of the flight coaching and everything.
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I've kind of stalked her for a little few months on the
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Instagram and then reached out to you.
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I think that was at the beginning of 2024 about this
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group that you were creating and decided to go all in.
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I was pregnant at the time and so that was also AI guess, an
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obstacle I thought I was going to have to overcome.
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But you made it seem so easy and it was the whole time.
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So recently I landed a job as a flight nurse and I'm all excited
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about it now. Woo Hoo.
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We're here to talk all about it today on this episode.
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I love your story because OK, this is what I love.
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I want more women to be in this job.
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We need women as flight nurses. We are good multitaskers.
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We're empathetic. We this this is like a great
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career for us. And I do feel like this is kind
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of a male dominated space. So I'm a huge believer when my
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female clients or even people who don't work when they come to
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me and like they're like, well, I wanna have kids and I have my
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family. Like, how is that gonna be with
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my kids being so young and working 24 hour shifts?
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And I, I poignantly remember when you came to me and you
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said, well, I just found out I'm pregnant.
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What is that gonna do? How what does this look like for
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me? And I remember just telling you,
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you will be the best flight nurse because you're our mother
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and this will make you so good at your job.
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And I just remember you believing me and trusting me and
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I just like am so proud of your journey and where you've come.
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So I would just love for you to share to the other moms out
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there or to be moms like, how is how have you?
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What were you thinking? And how have you like reconciled
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that in your mind? So I will say going into our
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first meeting, the I've been in 2024 when I first found out I
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was pregnant, in my head I was like, no flight company is going
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to hire me because he wants to train me for me to go on
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maternity leave or I just felt like that was going to be a turn
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away for flight companies. And when I expressed that to
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you, he said, well, do you want to work for somebody?
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Basically he's not going to support your goals and family.
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And so that really changed everything in my head.
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I'm like, you're right, I don't want to be with an employer or a
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company that's not going to allow me to have the family and
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because that's my priority. And so I feel like that changed
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my whole mindset and everything going into flight nursing.
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And then on my first ride along with a flight company, I happen
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to be with a flight nurse who was pregnant too.
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And so I felt like it was all just meant to be because then it
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really showed me first hand like, OK, well, she's flying.
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She had is about to start her family and the flight company
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was really supportive of her. So I feel like it just opened my
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mind to OK, this is really is attainable.
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And so throughout my pregnancy, I did my EMTI, did multiple ride
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alongs. I got to see first hand with how
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flight companies handle the supporting working moms and got
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to see just from different flight nurses their perspective
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of how this career can support their families and still have
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the perfect work life balance. I forgot that story like I
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forgot that your first ride along she was pregnant.
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Yes, and I feel like that was so meant to be.
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That was like the perfect like how I could have gotten into
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thought. Yeah.
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And I have like the, I really have this big belief that when
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we really want something, like people come into our lives and
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are placed into our lives to like really help us for that
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particular situation. Like I don't think things are
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coincidental. And I also believe that when we
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really have the courage to go for something that's scary or
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that we have fear, like those people are placed in our life
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too. And I just, I haven't heard that
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from anybody else that they even followed someone who was
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pregnant and for you to be matched with someone who was is
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just like crazy. Yes exactly, she had just
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recently found out she was pregnant too and we were both at
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the same like beginning of our pregnancy so that was just crazy
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to me that it all worked out that way.
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Yeah, yeah. OK, so now let's Fast forward
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from 2024 after you found out you were pregnant.
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Now your baby's like almost one, right?
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Do 14 minutes now. Oh my gosh. 14 Oh my gosh.
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So I will say going in a fight and looking at these positions,
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I knew very clearly after working with you which company I
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really wanted and what I wanted my schedule to be like, which
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was part time so that I could spend a lot of time home with my
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baby. That was like the ultimate goal.
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And so I've interviewed with several companies and several
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ride alongs and then ended up landing this position as a part
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time flight nurse near my house. And so that means 124 hour shift
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a week every Wednesday. So it's a set schedule.
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And so that's exactly what I wanted.
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That's amazing. And I, and I told you this like
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via text that it's you must have done phenomenal for them to give
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you a part time position as a brand new flight nurse and then
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also a set schedule because they want to do so bad.
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It's awesome, it's everything. I couldn't ever want it I feel
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like, especially starting out with fly.
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And I'd love for you to talk on that because I, I do tell people
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like you're when this is like quote UN quote dating them, when
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you're doing ride alongs and making connections, you're
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trying to figure out what they value and if it's a match for
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what you value. And I love that to begin with.
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You're like, I need someone to who values having a family,
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having children. And that's kind of how you, your
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lens on everything and how you found this company.
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So I think people don't believe that because I think this is my
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dream job, so I should just take whatever there is.
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But can you speak on how that's been different for you and
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really figuring out if it's a match?
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I will say I've done several interviews with three different
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flight companies total in my area and like you said even on
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the ride alongs I would ask the people I was with like how's
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your family work life balance? How do they support your family?
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Is it easy to get days off if you need it if you I want to
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have kids like how does that look?
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And so I got different responses for everybody.
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And even in my last like trimester of being pregnant, I
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interviewed with the company and that was my question is I'm
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pregnant now. What is it look like supporting
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going forwards if I was to take this position and they gave me
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their honest answer. And so I feel like that really
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led me into the position that I was able to interview for now,
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as far as the nurses there said that they're really supportive
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of their family work life balance.
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So that's what I really was striving for.
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My main goal was to find that. Yeah, I love that you have a
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perfect match because you looked for the perfect match.
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Yes. Can you also speak on having cuz
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was this you had three interviews prior and then this
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was your 4th or was it 2 and then this was your third?
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This is my second interview with this company.
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I had I think 2 before then with two different companies OK my
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area. So this is the second one I had
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with this specific company. OK, this is perfect.
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I'd love for you to talk about that and also that this was, you
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know, third interview, your second one with this company.
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Because what happens for a lot of people is they interview for
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one and then they don't get it. So then they pull back and
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they're like, it wasn't meant for me or it's not my time.
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But what was it for you that kept you going and interviewing
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and seeing if it was a good fit and then also coming back a
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second time for the same company?
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I feel like when these come, from what I've heard from almost
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all come, all the companies I interviewed for and the flight
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nurses that I was able to do ride alongs with is more than
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likely you're not going to get on your first time and they want
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to see you keep coming back. And that was just in my head.
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I just assumed I was like, just keep showing persistence and
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they'll say that I'm serious about it.
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And so with this particular company that I just got hired on
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for, I reached out to several bases and like really made
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myself annoying I guess to them I would ask for, ride along, ask
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for just kept on being persistent with them.
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I ended up interviewing for a position at the beginning of the
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year that was out of state. Not even I knew that I wouldn't
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be able to take it, but they were like, go ahead and
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interview for it. So you can see how the
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interviews are like and they can see your face with a name.
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And so I did. They didn't offer it to me, but
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then I was able to reapply for another position that I went for
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the interview and again, did not receive that one because I said
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they had someone internal doing it.
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But then several months later, they reached out to me, just
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called me out of the blue one day and was like, we have a
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position for you, it's yours. And so that's when I accepted it
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just a couple weeks ago. Yeah, and this is like an
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example of leave room for a little bit of magic.
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And that was my podcast episode last week where it's like, it's
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not linear. It's not like you interview for
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one base and then you get that basis position.
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No, look at you interviewed for for a different position.
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You didn't even apply to this one.
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And they remembered you from the previous interview even though
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it was a no. Yes.
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And they didn't even have to post this position.
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They just had me on their list. And they were like, when a
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position becomes available, we'll let you know.
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And that's exactly what happened.
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Yeah, and that was just because you were willing to get yourself
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in the interview, do ride alongs, make connections with
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them. So they had you in mind before
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they even posted it? And I will say doing interviews
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with different companies, they were all three companies did it
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completely different. One did it on Zoom with several
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different members, I guess of their base.
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One did it in person and it was just me and the manager, just
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one-on-one. And then the company that I did
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with now brought a whole group of us in and we had to do like
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we were there all day to do the testing, the actual interview,
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the case scenario. So that was interesting also to
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see it each company does something so different.
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And remind me, Oh, go ahead. Well, this group prepared me for
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each interview because that's what we went over and our weekly
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calls was going over each scenario of the interview.
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Yeah. And remind me with your last one
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with the group interview, did they interview all together or
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they brought you all and then separately?
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Separate. So they brought us all into a
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room to do the testing and then in the middle of us testing,
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they would call US one by one to do the interview and then the
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case scenario. But it was in front of like 10
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people, I believe it was at a round table and everybody just
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went one by one asking questions.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And what I love about that is
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that that's what I kind of teach you guys too, is that I'm seeing
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more group interviews like that because they want to know your
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psyche of when you're seeing the other applicants.
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It's like, what is this going to do for you?
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How are you going to be able to showcase who you are and also
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not be stuck in comparison mode? But I've also seen interviews,
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Well they're they'll interview all 10 of you at the same time
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and ask you the same question, which is super interesting as
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well. And that's what I've prepared
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myself for is all these scenarios.
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I felt like we really worked on that each week in the interview
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prep courses. And so I feel like that really
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helped me with no matter what the situation was, I felt
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prepared. So good, awesome.
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My question for you with this is what did you learn?
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What do you feel like you learned from from every
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interview since you got to sit in multiple ones and different
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kind of scenarios of them? I believe just how my flow went,
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just getting into a flow of how to answer the questions each
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time. After each interview, I'd write
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down all the questions that I got asked and really come up
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with a strong, solid answer so that pretty much each interview
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I went to, next time, if they didn't ask that particular
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question, I was able to kind of modify a question I already had.
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And like we discussed in the group, just tying it back to if
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I was getting lost, just having that one thought in the head,
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like I just really want to fly or whatever each person had for
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them. What was your thought that
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helped you like Recenter when maybe?
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I just want to fly but this is what I want to do.
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I just want to fly, so I feel like each question I did I
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talked about myself but tied it back to how much I just really
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want to fly. Yeah, I love that.
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I love that. What was I going to ask you
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about the interviews? I guess like a more broader
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question that I'm thinking people who are listening might
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be thinking to themselves is what do you think were the
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steps? And everybody's journey is
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different, but what do you think were the steps that like created
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success for you to now have an offer and then also have the
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position and company that you that you really wanted?
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I will say mindset, just my mind completely has changed from the
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beginning when I first talked to you to going through these
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weekly coaching and then because by the beginning I thought this
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was going to be a goal in like 5 or 10 years.
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It's working with you and just growing over the last year.
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I felt like that's really changed my mindset and just, I
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know I'm still nervous. I'm scared about this position,
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but I had the mindset of I know I can do this.
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I know that I'll get the training and I know that I'll be
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fine. And so I felt like that really
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I've just grown that way. And then just taking the steps
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of figuring out which each like company requires and then what
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they want. And also with this particular
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company, when I first interviewed with them at the
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beginning of the of this year, I showed them what I was doing.
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Like I had a mentor, which was this company.
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I did my EMT already. Like I had all these check
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boxes. And so when I didn't get that
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position, but I was getting brought back for another
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interview. What I really make sure is how
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can I show them that I've grown since the last interview?
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So good. I had been, I passed my CN and I
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was currently had scheduled my CFR and I had transitioned to
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cross training in the ICU so that they could see that I was
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serious about going for this position.
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And each time I'd also emailed them back and be like, what can
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I work on for the next interview?
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And I felt like that really showed them that I was going to
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continue with this position. And that's, I feel like what
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ultimately got me hired as they saw that I was wanted to keep
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growing and wanted to keep learning.
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Yeah, I think you touched on something really big before,
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which includes. This is like being annoying,
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being being persistent, and being consistent.
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Yes. And that.
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I feel like it's key. That's like something we coach
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on almost every week. Almost everybody comes to me and
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they're like, well, I don't want to e-mail them back or ask about
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this because I don't want to be annoying.
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I don't want to be eager. And I'm like, if you're being
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annoying, you're doing it right. You just have to be willing to
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feel the discomfort of thinking that you're annoying.
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But knowing all these companies, they're not thinking about the
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thousands of people reaching out to them.
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So you have to advocate for yourself.
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And they might not see the first 3 emails or, or anything that
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you send. And then it's the fourth one
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that they're going to be like, oh, and then they look back and
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see that you have been consistent.
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And so they're like, OK, well, she really wants it.
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Yeah, and that's why I love offering you guys like those
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thoughts of like, if you're thinking, oh, I'm being
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annoying. No, they're thinking, oh, she's
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consistent. They're persistent.
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She really wants this. And that's what all companies
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that I've done right along, they're like, you just have to
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keep on networking and being ride alongs and reaching out and
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you'll eventually get the job. And that's exactly what
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happened. I'm curious for you because it's
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been interesting. I've I've helped probably in the
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last six months. Two people get a part time
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position and one person get it per DM which I've really never
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ever heard of for a brand new flight nurse.
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So I'm curious for you, what do you, how do you think that you
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presented yourself to be able to fill a part time position versus
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a full time 1 which is like normal?
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I feel like just in the interview, I did go in there
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with the mindset of being confident and just like I don't,
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I really don't know. I feel like it's just how I came
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off of even when I was asking when it came time in the
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interview to ask questions, I was asking all the right ones.
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I feel like as as far as training, what that looks like,
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if I have the opportunity to at least train full time, what they
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prefer if I train part time hours or full time hours and
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just getting letting them know what I wanted.
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Also, because they have to, they give you a sheet of paper for
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you to circle like what positions you want and
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everything. And I just wrote on there
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instead of circling. I was like part time anywhere.
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I was like full time at the closest base to me.
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And so I felt like being honest and not just saying that I'll
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take any position. I felt like they really took
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that at consideration. I love that.
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I'm also thinking what would be something if someone listen
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right now, male or female? But I just think US women were
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like, we have a lot of mom guilt.
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So if a female or a mother is listening or someone who's
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planning on having kids, what advice would you give them who's
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like they're thinking, I don't know how this is going to affect
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me being a mother. I don't know how this is
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affecting me having a family. Like what would you tell them if
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they really want flight? If you want it bad enough, it's
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going to happen there. You just have to want it enough
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and you will make it work and it will be in your best interest.
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Ain't your kids best interest. If you're happy and you're doing
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a career that you love, they're going to see that.
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And I feel like it's going to reflect to me, I feel like
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flight was going to open more doors and let me be at home more
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versus working these 3648 hours in the ER.
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When I leave, I'm exhausted, when I come home I'm exhausted.
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And I really only have two or three days at home with my
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family and not being exhausted. So I feel like flights going to
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be the best work life balance right now.
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It really will. Like I hit the work life balance
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lottery when I went to flight when you work 224 hour shifts
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and then I had five days off in a row.
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I was like maybe I need a full time job somewhere else.
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Exactly, that's the way it was funny because on one of my ride
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alongs I was with two males and I just asked them.
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I was like so what's work life balance like do y'all have a
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family at home and do you get to see them a lot with this job?
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And one of them answered gassing them too much and so I thought
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that was funny. He said by the time his stretch
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is done, he's ready to be back and get a little break from him.
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Yeah, it is totally funny because since I've been home as
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a full time flight nurse for the last three years, you know, I
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flew for seven. It's it's difficult when you
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don't live at home for seven years and now you're back home
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full time. It's a good like it's a good
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enough reprieve to like be with your friends and your teamwork
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and you know, all of that stuff. I'd love to talk.
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Oh, so actually my question was when you said that are you
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planning on staying on your ER job?
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Are you going all in in flight and?
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So for right now, I turned in my notice at work and I'm going to
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go all in on flight just for the training.
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I know up front it's going to be a lot.
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So I definitely don't want to try to balance the PRM position.
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And my manager and everybody I work with was very happy for me.
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And they're like, if you want to come back, just text me.
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So I have that door open if I want to in the future.
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But for right now all in the flight I want to learn as much
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as possible and just put all my all into becoming a good flight
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nurse so and also be at home with my babies.
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So yes. So good because that's like the
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number one thing that I coach new flight nurses on is like,
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they want to still like hold on to the other job.
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And usually it's because they're nervous they're going to fail
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and so they want to have that lifeboat.
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But I'm like, if you want to work more hours, you can in this
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in the flight. Yeah, yeah.
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I'd love for you to talk about business too, because I love not
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only that you want to get in flight, but that you're you also
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have something else that you like are doing for work and your
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travel business and you have a family because I that, and maybe
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I'm biased, but I think nurse make the entrepreneurs because
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we're so used to doing multiple things at once.
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We're so good at it. So I'd love.
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Passionate and seeing the world and helping others travel.
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And so honestly I feel like nursing is the hardest job
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possible. I was like, if I can do nursing,
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I can do anything. And literally I feel like
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anything after nursing is just so easy compared to the 12
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shifts at the hospital. And so I felt like that was also
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a good way for me to just have a different work life balance, I
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guess of seeing something else and not having to physically
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work hard. It's all pretty much on the
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computer and just talking to other people, which I love and
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talking about travel. So I feel like that was really,
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it doesn't feel like work, it feels awesome and just helping
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others travel. And so I feel like with this
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part time position in flight, it's also going to give me more
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opportunity to grow my business along with travel often and then
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be at home with my baby too. So.
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That's the scenario. Yes, completely.
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And we'll link up at how to get into contact with you if people
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are interested in that. But can you just tell us like
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if, if they want to contact you about travel and that business,
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how do they do that? I'm on all the social media, so
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like Instagram, Facebook, I have my website, but it's White
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Forest Luxury Travels on my Instagram.
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It's linked there, but just literally either texting or
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calling me. I have my number linked on there
24:26
or I have forms to get in contact with my e-mail.
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So there's so many ways I feel like to get in contact with me.
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OK, perfect. We'll link up your Instagram so
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that they can contact if they're interested.
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In that, yeah, that would be awesome.
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I love that. I really am a big believer.
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I love healthcare. I love being a nurse.
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It's not always roses and daisies and all of those things,
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but I do think it's important that we don't get our identity
24:52
too tight up into that, that we find external things, whether
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it's like another career, excuse me, hobby, business or whatever,
25:02
that we really enjoy our identity outside of it.
25:06
Exactly. So I love that you have that.
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Thank you. I love it and I feel like it
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keeps like I said the balance. I'm just trying to find a good
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work life balance and I feel like it keeps me from being too
25:19
much of all in as the nurse and spending every single day
25:23
nursing because that's mentally exhausting.
25:26
And also being a full time mom, being at home all the time.
25:30
So I feel like it's just another escape to do something I love
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and then hopefully make money out of it.
25:37
Yeah, yeah. And I love it because I think we
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have to be responsible for what we really want.
25:42
For sure, everybody can, I feel like can create the life that
25:46
they want. If you want it bad enough,
25:48
you're going to make a way. Yeah.
25:50
And we have to go out there and take action towards it.
25:52
We can't. Like, you know, we see a lot of
25:54
people who complain about not liking a department or their job
25:57
or all those things. But if you really want
25:59
something, we have to go out there and we have to go and
26:01
create it and so that we can experience it.
26:05
And it's possible if we do, if we keep at.
26:07
It 100% possible. It's completely up to you.
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I feel like yeah, life that you want.
26:13
If you want flight bad enough, you're going to.
26:15
It's going to happen. I love that.
26:18
I love your story. I love how you created the
26:20
perfect flight job that you want with the travel that you want,
26:23
with the family that you want to have.
26:25
Like, I just think your story is so powerful.
26:28
And I feel like the biggest key to getting me here as far as
26:32
flight, the same thing when I started my travel business, it's
26:35
just finding mentors. You were the one for flight.
26:38
When I had a travel business, I had a mentor for that too.
26:42
For nursing, there was nurses I looked up to to talk to.
26:45
So I feel like the main thing is the biggest key is finding a
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flight mentor and mapping out the road to getting there.
26:53
Yeah same. I've had a mentor for everything
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and it just helps you not quit. Exactly.
26:59
You're held responsible, and then when it feels like it's not
27:02
going to happen, you have somebody be like, no, it is.
27:05
I already, like you kept saying, I already see it for you
27:08
already. You're already getting there.
27:11
Yeah, sometimes it's hard to believe in yourself, but when
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you have somebody holding you accountable and believing in
27:16
you, it makes it a little bit easier.
27:19
That's key. Like that's how I chose my
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mentors is I have to have a mentor who believes in me, like
27:23
believes in like my vision before me and then holds me to
27:26
it like my feet to the fire. Yes.
27:30
Is there anything, Sarah, that we haven't talked about that you
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want to mention or any like piece of advice that's been
27:36
really helpful for you up until this point that we can like kind
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of end with? I don't think so.
27:41
Like I mentioned, just really having a mentor and finding
27:45
somebody that's going to be there to in your corner to help
27:48
you and if you want it bad enough, it's going to happen.
27:53
We're just staying consistent. This is key.
27:57
I love that being annoying. OK, well Sarah, thanks for being
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on. I really appreciate it.
28:06
I know people are going to really take something from the
28:09
conversation that we had today and I am so excited to just kind
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of watch you grow into your dream and living your dream.
28:15
Thank you, thank you for everything in this group, for
28:18
supporting me, because 100% don't feel like I'd be here as
28:22
fast as I am now if I was not part of this group.
28:26
Man, we really cut your timeline down from 5 to 10 years.
28:29
Did you say 5 to 10 years to? What?
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Yes, yeah, it's been a year. So just within a year, I feel
28:36
like mentally I've grown so much and then getting this position
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has just filled the deal. I love that you'll keep us
28:44
posted on everything. I will.
28:46
OK, perfect. Oh, and Sarah is going to be on
28:49
our live panel interview with people who just got hired in a
28:52
flight next Wednesday, October 29th.
28:54
So if you guys are listening to that this week before then join
28:57
us on that because you'll get to hear more from her and ask her a
28:59
question. OK.
29:02
Thanks, Sarah. Thank you.
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Bye. Bye.
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