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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with our radio and I'm sitting in studio steering at
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Speaker 1: my beautiful co host Ashley. Could I just got a
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Speaker 1: facial so I have a whole bunch of extraction marks.
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Speaker 1: But thanks for calling me beautiful. Wait what's that? Wait
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Speaker 1: we explain that a little bit. What do you do?
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Speaker 1: I noticed you weren't wearing makeup, but I just thought
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Speaker 1: you were like comfortable to be around me. I am
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Speaker 1: comfortable a zillion times about makeup. I barely come to
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Speaker 1: this with makeup on if I'm not on camera these days,
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Speaker 1: I don't usually wear it. And Jared likes me without makeup.
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Speaker 1: He's like, I like to attack your face, like he can.
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Speaker 1: You know what is that? Remember on a podcast you
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Speaker 1: have to explain in detail, and so let's start at
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Speaker 1: the beginning. You've got an extraction, Okay, So when you
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Speaker 1: get a facial sometimes most of the time, they'll do extraction.
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Speaker 1: To me, it's like they can see your clog pores
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Speaker 1: and they like upcoming pimples, so they press it down
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Speaker 1: either with the tool of their fingers, and they get
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Speaker 1: that bacteria and that puss up. So it usually leaves
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Speaker 1: like a mark or so for a day and then
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Speaker 1: you're all clear and you won't you won't break out.
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Speaker 1: Like It's like the same thing I do to my face, right,
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Speaker 1: is it do that? Yeah? I take a little like
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Speaker 1: I buy the little Uh is this weird for me? No,
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Speaker 1: you don't. Might have a secret. I take, you know,
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Speaker 1: the little diabetic pins that you stick when you like
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Speaker 1: you need to draw blood from your finger to test,
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Speaker 1: like when you have diabetes. So you can buy him
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Speaker 1: at like Walmart, you know, over the counter. And so
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Speaker 1: I buy those. And then when I have a pimple
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Speaker 1: or have a black head, or have something that I
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Speaker 1: need to extract, I use that. Give a little prick,
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Speaker 1: open it up, let it, you know, come, and then
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Speaker 1: I put a little ac on it, maybe squeeze it
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Ben. You know what's something that I've
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Speaker 1: learned about you over the past year and a half.
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Speaker 1: Have quite the beauty routine, Like you really care about
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Speaker 1: your face and your skin. You know what if one day,
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Speaker 1: when all this is said and done and somebody goes,
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Speaker 1: you know what, been really cared about his face and skin,
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Speaker 1: I don't think I'd be living my best life. But
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Speaker 1: I do. I do care about my face and skin
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Speaker 1: and I actually I don't have a weird thing or
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Speaker 1: I mean, anybody out there listening please email us have
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Speaker 1: been an actually I hurt me that com this will
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Speaker 1: be interesting. Are you okay popping your friends pimples? Well? So,
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Speaker 1: I don't think that pimples should be popped, but I
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Speaker 1: do like the way that you can do it with
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Speaker 1: one clean little needle too, like pierce it. It's clean.
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Speaker 1: Let's say that it's very clean clean, it's only been
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Speaker 1: used once, right you and then it gets you know,
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Speaker 1: an opening so you can get it out. I think
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Speaker 1: that's totally fine. I don't think you should be popping
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Speaker 1: friends pimples. I'm like, you know, one of those. Don't
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Speaker 1: look at me like I'm the only one. There's so
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Speaker 1: many of us out there, totally the needle before are you?
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Speaker 1: Are you popping Jared's pimples yet? Know? My big issue
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Speaker 1: with Jared is his black head. Yeah. He's always had
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Speaker 1: those though, no, yes, and ever since ever since the batchelor.
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Speaker 1: I remember sitting on the batchel at and he had
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Speaker 1: told me like that he he like scrubs, like with
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Speaker 1: this special stuff because he's prone to blackheads. He doesn't
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Speaker 1: scrub with anything that's scars problem. He just watches washes
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Speaker 1: his face when he's in the shower. I'm like, you
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Speaker 1: know you He's like, well if it didn't shower today,
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Speaker 1: which you know he rarely does skip the day, but
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Speaker 1: he just doesn't watch his face that day. We have
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Speaker 1: a lot of listeners who I imagine our preteen and
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Speaker 1: teen No, he's fine. You noticed his blockheads. I like to,
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Speaker 1: you're coming with me, that's what you do. Um. We
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Speaker 1: have a lot of people listening who are a preteen teen. Uh,
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Speaker 1: those years are tough on the face. Um. Actually you
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Speaker 1: know sharing your beauty beauty secrets before we bring in
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Speaker 1: and we introduced this podcast. Um, Ashley, what is your
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Speaker 1: best advice for somebody who was suffering with acne without
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Speaker 1: taking any medic medication? What would be your recommendation without
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Speaker 1: taking any medication. So I've been pretty open. I had
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Speaker 1: really bad sisteric acne in my early twenties, like to
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Speaker 1: the point where I didn't leave the house, or when
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Speaker 1: I did leave the house, I would cry. It was
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Speaker 1: really traumatic, especially for like four or five months. And
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Speaker 1: I mean, my best advice is to go the dermatologist.
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Speaker 1: But if there's something over the counter that I think
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Speaker 1: could be a quick fix for you. I love panoxel um.
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Speaker 1: It is a ten percent benzel peroxide and that can
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Speaker 1: clear you up pretty fast, even without going to the derm.
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Speaker 1: But I had a hormonal acne which needed to be controlled.
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Speaker 1: Between bioclarity and what you just said, I think we're good. Um, actually,
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Speaker 1: thank you. I think that. Actually, it's really interesting. I've
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Speaker 1: always wondered that. Um. Hey, if anybody out there is listening,
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Speaker 1: we're in studio today. I'm really excited to be here.
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Speaker 1: We have a huge podcast. It's gonna it feels going
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Speaker 1: into a little heavy We'll see where it takes us.
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Speaker 1: We really have no idea where this one'll take us.
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Speaker 1: But we're gonna talk to Jordan Kimball, who uh you know,
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Speaker 1: has made the news with his relationship with Jennet Cooper
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Speaker 1: recent They were engaged on Bachelor in Paradise. They dated
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Speaker 1: for a very very short time. Afterwards, news came out
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Speaker 1: that she might have been um having eyes for somebody
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Speaker 1: else the whole time. We want to get his side
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Speaker 1: of the story. Actually, we're gonna catch you up on
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Speaker 1: all Bachelor news. But before we do that, if you're
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Speaker 1: somebody who has listening to this podcast, uh consistently or
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Speaker 1: maybe not for the last I know two years almost,
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Speaker 1: Please go out and review our podcast on on any
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Speaker 1: avenue that you listen. We want to get reviews. It
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Speaker 1: helps us continue to keep visible. It keeps us continuing
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Speaker 1: to keep going. We love doing the podcast. We've talked
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Speaker 1: about it many times. This is this is my uh.
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Speaker 1: One of my favorite things to do each week is
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Speaker 1: coming here and talk to Ashley and see the team.
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Speaker 1: So I've been pretty intentional about my hair. This is
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Speaker 1: I've put on this, I put on this front for
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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you who want who't been here?
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Speaker 1: All right? I have some fashion, um advice. I need
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Speaker 1: some fashion advice, and there's only one person on how
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Speaker 1: to do that. H Jordan Kimball. Are you out there?
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Speaker 1: Jordan's This is Ben Higgins, This is Ashley I can Eddie.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the almost famous podcast. Oh goodness you guys.
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Speaker 1: I'm on a gondola right now. Where the girl in Canada? Um? Well,
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Speaker 1: do you have time to talk to us? Yeah, let's
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Speaker 1: do it? Okay, cool, Jordan, get us started here. We're
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Speaker 1: going through our skincare and hairy teens. Uh and and
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Speaker 1: really without even prepping for you to be on the podcast,
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Speaker 1: this just kind of came up earlier. If you could
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Speaker 1: give somebody out there in their pre teens teens some
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Speaker 1: skin and hair advice, what would it be? Well, all
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Speaker 1: our skins different, all our hair stiffer. However, there's something
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Speaker 1: that's kind of good for everybody. I think they feels
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Speaker 1: uh sticks there line is is really meant for for
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Speaker 1: most people. Um, it's got you. Uh you know, uh,
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Speaker 1: it's feels right these years us my friends at all,
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Speaker 1: it worked for all of them. I've part here. It
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Speaker 1: goes you just can't be the good that people So yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: sALS By I and I saw that on Paradise. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna go about that. You have beautiful hair, Jordan's. I
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Speaker 1: know everybody always talks about you, talk to you about
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Speaker 1: how good looking you are, and your fashion and and
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Speaker 1: your hygiens and all that stuff. Um My next question.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to the American Music Awards tonight. I've never
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Speaker 1: been known as a guy that's fashion forward. I have
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Speaker 1: never let myself fully be expressed through my fashion, but
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Speaker 1: tonight I wanted to. And so I got a bolo
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Speaker 1: tie and a black T shirt with a really snazzy vest.
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Speaker 1: Is it possible for me to wear a bolo tie
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Speaker 1: with a T shirt? Uh? So yesterday? Is um what
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Speaker 1: kind of shoo parent? And please tell me you're not
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Speaker 1: wearing a belt? No belt, no bell? Come on, I'm
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Speaker 1: not that far behind. I have really nice black like
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Speaker 1: um buckle buckle dress shoes absolutely Okay, that don't work.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I got great socks. I got like funky
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Speaker 1: socks on They're not matching, but they like they tell
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Speaker 1: a story perfect. I love that. Yeah together, Oh dude,
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Speaker 1: I'm so happy. I'm gonna wear this bullet tie. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna a bunch of pictures tonight and I hope that
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Speaker 1: you like them on Instagram. Okay, Jordan, let's get serious
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Speaker 1: for a second. Ashley and I have been doing the
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Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast now for almost two years. Uh, there's
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Speaker 1: about a half million people that listen to to these episodes. Um,
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Speaker 1: so we're gonna be talking to a large audience today
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Speaker 1: and a lot of people want to hear your story.
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Speaker 1: We got to hear on Reality Steve's podcast. You did
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Speaker 1: a great job that you're explaining yourself. We want to
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Speaker 1: give him credit for bringing you on first, but we
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Speaker 1: want our opportunity to talk to you. Jordan's You've you've
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Speaker 1: you've been You're right, I think and Ashley could explain
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Speaker 1: this too, is you're right. In the Bachelor Nation, world
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Speaker 1: has been up and down, but we left you and
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Speaker 1: that last scene kind of um on a high everybody
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Speaker 1: was cheering for you. They're cheering for you in Jinna. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you aren't unfamiliar with this storyline. You've been asked about
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Speaker 1: all the time, and now things have changed, and actually
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Speaker 1: I want to hear your side of the story. Well, Jordan,
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Speaker 1: when you were on Reality Stews podcast, it was like,
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Speaker 1: you know, just days after everything unfolded with Jenna, and
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Speaker 1: now I feel like so many things have happened since, specifically, um,
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Speaker 1: what you posted on Instagram a couple of days ago
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Speaker 1: about her lawyer sending you, um a document in the
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Speaker 1: mail which was threatening you. Can you tell us kind
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Speaker 1: of start your story from the very beginning, cover a
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Speaker 1: bit that you did with Reality Steve, and then what
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Speaker 1: has happened in the past three weeks since. Um. So,
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Speaker 1: whenever I next really signed out at this, it was
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Speaker 1: directly after I did on air. I was talking about
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Speaker 1: what the first fight, because I truly serienced that, and
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna discop the fact that I
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Speaker 1: follow up because it was happened. I'm not gonna I'm
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Speaker 1: not gonna say, hey, guys, it's uh, yeah, she's awful.
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Speaker 1: You know, this was all just you know, I regretted
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Speaker 1: or something I don't and you know, then spoke on
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Speaker 1: my ups and down to the Master franchise. I've been
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Speaker 1: the same person the entire time. It's just the way
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Speaker 1: people interpret me as time goes on. My delivery's been
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Speaker 1: the same, my jokes stay the same. However, I think
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Speaker 1: people have kind of seen now that it's a Carmos team.
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Speaker 1: That's what it is. UM like going forward with the
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Speaker 1: whole uh scandal deal, you know you wish? Yeah. So
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Speaker 1: whenever we saw that that post the reality may on Twitter,
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Speaker 1: you know a few of us are talking about it.
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Speaker 1: I get a call an overnight um to stay that
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Speaker 1: she was very nervous and I didn't know this thing
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Speaker 1: about others to get that way. So I have to
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Speaker 1: say that, like, for people who are trying to defend Jenna,
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Speaker 1: that moment where she came to you the night before
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Speaker 1: saying she was nervous is like the one thing that's
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Speaker 1: just like, well, how can you deny that there is
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Speaker 1: something so so fishy there? Right right exactly someone said
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Speaker 1: that they had something on me. I say, you know what,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be something super silly. Maybe I was getting
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Speaker 1: a coffee and uh, you know, I helped an older
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Speaker 1: woman across the street. But it certainly wouldn't be taken seriously.
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Speaker 1: So um, but it goes forward, you know. So I
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Speaker 1: get that phone call, and the next morning I got
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Speaker 1: another call to say that she just wanted to go
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Speaker 1: to the hotel and that she was, uh, was really uneasy.
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Speaker 1: So and then the inst reaction on the telephone. Um,
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Speaker 1: I'm a really intuitive person, and the nest reaction told
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Speaker 1: me kind of everything I need to know upon the
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Speaker 1: emails that haven't been shown to the public that hopefully
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Speaker 1: never gets down to the public. Um between who between reality,
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Speaker 1: Stephen the gentleman. I tried. I tried. I wanted to
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Speaker 1: talk to him. Everyone knows the kind of guy I am.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to him. You know, I uses
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Speaker 1: to talk to me. Uh. So it is what it is. Um.
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Speaker 1: So I I've been there for her. I started my
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Speaker 1: post whenever I ended the engagement, so I'd be here
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Speaker 1: for her. I was there for her. Her family started
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Speaker 1: lasting out, she started lasting out, um, and so I
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Speaker 1: just had a lot to go. And so now it's
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Speaker 1: been a little over a week. I've actually talked to her,
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Speaker 1: talked very odd. Uh. They was they was getting very
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Speaker 1: the terminology being used was very technical, It was very
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Speaker 1: position and a stand towards me against me. Uh. It
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Speaker 1: got to the point where I wasn't being talked to
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Speaker 1: like the person I've been talked at, and you know,
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Speaker 1: to choose someone to be in my life and to
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Speaker 1: choose to bring them to be a part of my family.
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Speaker 1: And it had this happened also soon after earning gazement.
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Speaker 1: It shows me that the intentions in the text messages, well,
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Speaker 1: they are what they what they were, and it hasn't
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Speaker 1: improven wrong and the lawyer did not need to get
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Speaker 1: involved to prove it wrong. An analysis of the phone
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Speaker 1: was not necessary. Um, you know, I was coming a
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Speaker 1: great good the other day. I get that email upon
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Speaker 1: other emails and prass harassing point on the sun. They
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Speaker 1: were calling me several times, and uh, I mean for me,
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Speaker 1: I'm not the kind of guy like you don't want
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Speaker 1: a verbally batt on me, and that's anybody on this planet.
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Speaker 1: You do not want to get to a verbal offication.
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Speaker 1: Georgian comple Okay, I will I will add I will
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Speaker 1: add that person and be careful. I've been pretty good. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so I don't do on the phone with with this guy.
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Speaker 1: You know the lawyer on the phone, everyone thing, no,
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Speaker 1: no you email he called me acted, um whose bossol
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Speaker 1: um you on the kind and so he says, shouting
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Speaker 1: at me. I was like listen, like please, you don't
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Speaker 1: need to stop vidicul, I said, the blackmailing. They ultimate them.
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Speaker 1: If I don't take take action, that's that's blackmail, said
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Speaker 1: and that fact very good to you. I'm recording him
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Speaker 1: to the Bar Association in North Carolina. And uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think that if you wanted, I think you wanted
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Speaker 1: to be in the public eye. Well that's kind of
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Speaker 1: accents that the witness. We're in front of the public eye. Try.
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Speaker 1: I gave him what he wanted. Uh that email. Um,
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Speaker 1: they didn't have the disclosure. Like the first theme of
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Speaker 1: bit about sharing the disclosure or starting his female won't
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Speaker 1: lead to blah blah blah blah blah. Always real action,
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Speaker 1: he said, if you share the for any video, I
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Speaker 1: would act quarteringly. What's your next group, guy? Because I
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Speaker 1: haven't heard anything. I haven't heard anything from kind of
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Speaker 1: family and heard anything from her. What's going on? Why
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Speaker 1: are your comments pans off? So Jordan, let's start. I mean,
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Speaker 1: let's because I think there's a few things you've touched
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Speaker 1: on that are new and up and updates that the
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Speaker 1: audience has not heard yet. Let's kind of pull back
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Speaker 1: to the fact that you guys were still communicating UM
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Speaker 1: up until a week ago a little over with kid. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: very much so. UM been probably nine or ten days,
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Speaker 1: but uh, we were kind of thing and it first look, guys,
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Speaker 1: I was crying. I was duly crying my eyes out.
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Speaker 1: I was broken. I felt I felt bad for her
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Speaker 1: that you had to go through this. Ever, what has
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Speaker 1: to deal with that? May people on a negative note?
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Speaker 1: It I could only imagine. And so there was a
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Speaker 1: point where I would just start breaking down it and
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Speaker 1: right the middle day for you know, for about a week,
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Speaker 1: and I'm personally, I'm very busy. I've had all these
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Speaker 1: events booked out, you know, with it Barston winks, and
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Speaker 1: I've kind of had to try to carry on and
19:04
Speaker 1: you know, sound I don't want to talk he or anything.
19:08
Speaker 1: But if anyone is as possible as pans parents possible,
19:12
Speaker 1: she's almost made it easier for me to move on
19:15
Speaker 1: because of her actions and because of her words. And
19:19
Speaker 1: I say that there trying to be as as graceful
19:21
Speaker 1: as possible. As hard to say. You know, guys, be
19:24
Speaker 1: careful to you let your life and when someone starts
19:28
Speaker 1: totally changed up on you and you've been there for
19:31
Speaker 1: them and their family is is attacking you online, you
19:35
Speaker 1: gotta just you know, you gotta let it go. You
19:37
Speaker 1: gotta let it burn. And that's the I'm gonna write
19:39
Speaker 1: her a letter. I will burn that letter and the
19:41
Speaker 1: word plen it hopefully get carried to her in a
19:43
Speaker 1: drink because I have nothing I have to say to her.
19:47
Speaker 1: Her trying to spend this on me is absolutely mind blowing.
19:52
Speaker 1: To say, the ice fabricated at text not only does
19:54
Speaker 1: like Google app stores that have any purpose of anything,
19:57
Speaker 1: I don't know the checked up that. So however, the
20:00
Speaker 1: thing I did this lad you know claimed I had
20:02
Speaker 1: quick of my text. That's I mean, come on, that's
20:06
Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. I'm not that kind of person. If there's
20:09
Speaker 1: that thing illegal against ending any danger. If I want
20:12
Speaker 1: to break up with DNA, I would have just broke
20:14
Speaker 1: up with DNA. You want. If you watch Para, it's
20:18
Speaker 1: very clear that I felt for her. No, it's very
20:21
Speaker 1: clear that you definitely were in love with her at
20:24
Speaker 1: first sight. Let's clarify something when you guys were talking
20:27
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, were you talking like friends,
20:31
Speaker 1: like lovers, or like somebody who was preparing for their
20:35
Speaker 1: lawyer to make a statement to them. So that's kind
20:38
Speaker 1: of what okay. So initially we were talking like like
20:42
Speaker 1: we talked and like you know usually, and I was
20:44
Speaker 1: I was really talking to be there for I ended
20:47
Speaker 1: the engagement. I said that you could talk to me.
20:48
Speaker 1: At eight point, I said, hey, do you need anything,
20:50
Speaker 1: you let me know. And it started very rapidly kind
20:54
Speaker 1: of change, the test part change. The length of phone
20:58
Speaker 1: cost started to change, and she was, They're funny, I've
21:03
Speaker 1: hurt her why even to herself in these in these
21:07
Speaker 1: phone calls? And she said, I said these things that
21:10
Speaker 1: I've ever said, and the other I oh, well, how
21:13
Speaker 1: anyone else do this? And how that's like? Hold on?
21:16
Speaker 1: He said, you never never called the guy princess vend
21:18
Speaker 1: Your lawyer claims that you have called me that in attack.
21:21
Speaker 1: I don't even actually call that, but it's for me.
21:24
Speaker 1: It's just all these why the Thames that she tried
21:27
Speaker 1: to use the stand on didn't do this, but it's
21:30
Speaker 1: probably true. The fact thing she could then look whether
21:33
Speaker 1: she did it or not. I'm still unsure. I know
21:36
Speaker 1: for a fact that I didn't fabricate this, and whether
21:40
Speaker 1: she did it or not, she should have just that's quiet,
21:45
Speaker 1: you know, perhaps apologize that anyway. I'm so sorry, you
21:49
Speaker 1: have to go do this. Uh you know, I didn't
21:51
Speaker 1: do this. I didn't do this. She she didn't ever
21:54
Speaker 1: even say immediately, never said like I didn't do it
21:57
Speaker 1: that ever. Those three words will work. I didn't did
22:03
Speaker 1: never happen. I don't like. Yeah, I know that's the
22:07
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23:48
Speaker 1: There's one thing about this Jordan in a situation that
23:51
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23:54
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Speaker 1: to return to our interview with Jordan's. Now the lawyer
26:25
Speaker 1: is saying that they're demanding you to make a public
26:28
Speaker 1: apology or phase legal action. I'm assuming you're just doing nothing. Yeah,
26:34
Speaker 1: I kept I didn't know what we can do everythine,
26:40
Speaker 1: oh my god, like court. No, I'm not for what
26:45
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't have anything to prove. Look, I
26:47
Speaker 1: didn't hear my head on the Bible today. I did
26:50
Speaker 1: do this. Everyone knows. I talked aout every day. So
26:52
Speaker 1: that's that's a big deal about quote. And I don't
26:55
Speaker 1: need I don't need to battle. But look, and I
26:59
Speaker 1: presented to the book. You're gonna put that n M.
27:01
Speaker 1: I text the public that's and that's fine, that's that's
27:04
Speaker 1: really fine. I'm gonna present the angle of ear taking
27:07
Speaker 1: on me for the public. So um and then just
27:11
Speaker 1: have a pull a trigger on if you're gonna attack
27:14
Speaker 1: my character. Okay, here you go. This is this is
27:15
Speaker 1: what on guys, this is what my day was like.
27:17
Speaker 1: And then they sent me there was another email. Uh
27:21
Speaker 1: that was sent, and they've sent that email and then
27:24
Speaker 1: when they sent me the other emails came backed up
27:26
Speaker 1: in between the other emails they sent and uh, they said, uh,
27:31
Speaker 1: he said, this was a question. Now evidence of the
27:36
Speaker 1: for myself. They also want to stame detectis to just
27:39
Speaker 1: the clear reality see them myself next book. I've never
27:42
Speaker 1: talked to reality ever until the evening at this news
27:45
Speaker 1: came out. And that's when you decent me with the email,
27:48
Speaker 1: and we we would not expand this of each other
27:51
Speaker 1: at all. I mean, that's the last books I've goot
27:54
Speaker 1: to hop on the pub with her or through the
27:55
Speaker 1: message over too. And I think that there's so many
27:59
Speaker 1: people you know, that are bloss in the whole thing.
28:01
Speaker 1: It's not everyone's persisted to understand this. I had to.
28:05
Speaker 1: I had to clear my name until my innocence by
28:08
Speaker 1: presenting their own words against them in that tax. And
28:11
Speaker 1: I took no jab to anybody I used to. I
28:13
Speaker 1: just serve the public with the email of the sense,
28:17
Speaker 1: and I tried to stay as classic as possible. It
28:19
Speaker 1: is not easy as a prideful man to bite your
28:23
Speaker 1: tongue until you practice feel like you're bleeding, and just
28:27
Speaker 1: and just you know they're drink their own blood. You know,
28:31
Speaker 1: you just throw it back because you can't open him out.
28:33
Speaker 1: You just can't. Well, now you want to time and
28:35
Speaker 1: attack my character. I've stayed the waren Sema Entertainment's right,
28:40
Speaker 1: but I did not ever get this text. And you know,
28:43
Speaker 1: I look, I've got nothing to proof here. Um, I
28:47
Speaker 1: didn't do it, and anyone that does verything like anyway
28:51
Speaker 1: that people watched me on PG watch the interact and
28:53
Speaker 1: Dad and I would never caused me harm to her.
28:56
Speaker 1: So uh, and that's that's why that's where I stand
28:59
Speaker 1: right now. So not going after her. I'm not trying
29:03
Speaker 1: to call her home, but I mean it totally say,
29:11
Speaker 1: you know, more into a real life before So Jordan,
29:16
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think one thing that we're
29:18
Speaker 1: getting is this is this is an ugly breakup. Obviously,
29:22
Speaker 1: this is a breakup unlike most breakups that we've ever
29:24
Speaker 1: heard about. It is now. Uh, you know, we'll go
29:28
Speaker 1: back to the famous world saying when this happened, it
29:30
Speaker 1: opened up a can of worms that has still yet
29:32
Speaker 1: to be closed. But you do have feelings for Jenny.
29:35
Speaker 1: You did have feelings for Jenna. I'm sure at some
29:38
Speaker 1: level you still do. You've mentioned that you know she
29:41
Speaker 1: had a special place in your heart in your opinion.
29:44
Speaker 1: How is she doing emotionally with all of this, because
29:48
Speaker 1: we've gotten to hear how you're doing, and it's not
29:51
Speaker 1: been easy. It's been hard. How is she doing? Um?
29:58
Speaker 1: And I'm worried. I am worried about her, but I can't.
30:04
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing I can do at this point
30:05
Speaker 1: retain out to her. If not, it's practicing. It's very
30:10
Speaker 1: very smart for me to do. And I wish he
30:14
Speaker 1: was best Right now currently, I'm assuming that she's feeling
30:18
Speaker 1: worse than ever for the first time turned her comments off. UM,
30:24
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that she's not very happy with with
30:29
Speaker 1: how these things developed. Whether or not it was the
30:32
Speaker 1: lawyer was gonna send me, it still happened. It's still
30:34
Speaker 1: her counsel, her legal representation, and she is going to
30:37
Speaker 1: have to deal with that at some extent. So I
30:40
Speaker 1: feel for her to have to deal with it. But
30:42
Speaker 1: at the same time, look at the way astolt with it.
30:45
Speaker 1: That was the way seized out with it well, and
30:47
Speaker 1: and yeah, that is action is not It's not our
30:51
Speaker 1: place to judge on who's handle it better. I do
30:53
Speaker 1: wanna Actually yeah, and my sorry, UM. The question I
31:01
Speaker 1: have for you though, if you if you overly see
31:05
Speaker 1: this whole situation, it's ugly, it's difficult, there's lawyers involved,
31:09
Speaker 1: and it's a breakup. And granted, these breakups that are
31:12
Speaker 1: public can be really hard. I've been through them, but
31:17
Speaker 1: this has taken the next level in your opinion, and
31:20
Speaker 1: maybe in considering Jenny here, how does this get resolved?
31:24
Speaker 1: Because I feel like right now, even listening to you
31:26
Speaker 1: and in all honesty Jordan's, it just doesn't seem like
31:28
Speaker 1: it's coming to any resolution that, if anything, it just
31:30
Speaker 1: continues to open up more wounds and more pains and
31:34
Speaker 1: more he said. She said, how can you resolve this?
31:37
Speaker 1: And how can you get it to maybe just end
31:39
Speaker 1: You're done, the relationship is over, let's move on. Well, Uh,
31:46
Speaker 1: I've got no resolution, said, I'm just so if they
31:51
Speaker 1: are faked, um, if they all real, then I have
31:55
Speaker 1: to Um, but I think answers I have. I have
32:01
Speaker 1: no way to help. I've tried to help first off
32:03
Speaker 1: it and there's nothing that I can do going further. Unfortunately,
32:09
Speaker 1: I don't I think that her next movement maybe the
32:11
Speaker 1: last out of me. I don't think it would be
32:13
Speaker 1: her best move, but hey, that seems to be her
32:16
Speaker 1: style of it. I don't know when it's to be resolved,
32:19
Speaker 1: if there ever, if anyone will ever know the truth. Um,
32:22
Speaker 1: but my truth day that I am done with the relationship.
32:25
Speaker 1: I'm moving forward and I'm doing so, you know, with
32:30
Speaker 1: potentially finding a relationship you know, wherever I may be.
32:36
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not necessarily looking very hard. But if
32:39
Speaker 1: I meet the right person, and I meet someone that
32:41
Speaker 1: makes me happy, I'm gonna place right now where I can.
32:45
Speaker 1: I can try to start really slow and you know,
32:49
Speaker 1: and Steve Stewart, things go. Um, I've got to move
32:52
Speaker 1: on from this. I'm twenty years old and I'm traveling
32:56
Speaker 1: to all these places right now, the times to live
32:58
Speaker 1: like I would have loved to have taken her to
33:00
Speaker 1: all of my adventures and share adventures with her and
33:03
Speaker 1: you know, do everything that we plan to do. However,
33:05
Speaker 1: it's uh that has expired and it's time to move on.
33:10
Speaker 1: And it's the assence that has occurred after the fact
33:14
Speaker 1: of the channel being released has really made it, like
33:18
Speaker 1: I said, made it a little easier for me. Unfortunately, Jordan,
33:21
Speaker 1: I have two big questions for you left. Were there
33:24
Speaker 1: any red flags about Jenna that you had prior to
33:28
Speaker 1: this reality Steve Newsbreaking. Uh, there was a red flag. Um,
33:34
Speaker 1: there was a writ an article that was sent to me.
33:36
Speaker 1: It stated very similarly the kind of stuff that's in
33:39
Speaker 1: these text messages and uh, there's something I could I
33:43
Speaker 1: could disclose to you right now, it was said, and
33:46
Speaker 1: I have it in my phone. I'm not going to
33:48
Speaker 1: do that to her. But it gave me an indication
33:50
Speaker 1: that there was something. But I didn't think that it
33:53
Speaker 1: was this. I truly didn't think it was this. Uh So, um,
33:57
Speaker 1: this was very blindsiding, even with that red flag that
34:01
Speaker 1: occurred for very early on after uh you know bat
34:04
Speaker 1: the States from Paradise, and I definitely that took a
34:08
Speaker 1: relationship that article because it was I said to myself,
34:11
Speaker 1: this has got to be hurt. I mean, this is
34:14
Speaker 1: the spoiler. Were can't even really out that butchers the
34:16
Speaker 1: information that was being said. So, yes, there was that
34:19
Speaker 1: red flag, and I kind of just simply moved forward
34:22
Speaker 1: from it and uh, yeah, where it is. So there
34:26
Speaker 1: was that one red flag. So it was just a
34:28
Speaker 1: very similar situation that you read about. That's correct, Okay,
34:33
Speaker 1: and then do you have like you think that she
34:39
Speaker 1: just straight up cheated, that she was talking to one
34:42
Speaker 1: or more other guys during this period of time that
34:44
Speaker 1: you were engaged. Do you think there's more than one?
34:48
Speaker 1: I mean, do I think there was more than one?
34:52
Speaker 1: I think there's a time for um. Do I think
34:55
Speaker 1: it was but I think that they were So I
34:59
Speaker 1: think that. Okay, So I'm I'm gonna say this. It's generally,
35:05
Speaker 1: if possible, this person that that sent the emails that
35:10
Speaker 1: breaks out reality know her in a sexual manner. I
35:14
Speaker 1: know this for a fact, and this is the one
35:18
Speaker 1: person that's stepped up. There are other things that are
35:22
Speaker 1: stating that, hey, this is probably not the only guy.
35:25
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to speculate on that. I'm not
35:27
Speaker 1: gonna heard that kind of state. Uh is it in
35:30
Speaker 1: the back of my mind? Sure? Am I ever going
35:33
Speaker 1: to say it afterlutely or not? Do you think that
35:36
Speaker 1: I've read rumors about possibly there just possibly it could
35:41
Speaker 1: have been like a sugar daddy situation. Do you believe
35:44
Speaker 1: that it was really her being romantically involved with someone,
35:47
Speaker 1: or that possibly it was a financial thing. I don't
35:51
Speaker 1: think there was a romantic relations I don't think it was.
35:54
Speaker 1: I think that, to be honest with the athlete, I
35:58
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be. I think that she did fall
36:01
Speaker 1: for me, However I didn't know how to handle it.
36:04
Speaker 1: For trust to that individual so much that she could
36:07
Speaker 1: get away with it for a little longer. And how long?
36:10
Speaker 1: How much longer is that continue? How much longer to
36:12
Speaker 1: you continue to cope the other relationship going? I'm not sure,
36:16
Speaker 1: but I'm not here to answer. Ever, I'm not here
36:19
Speaker 1: looking for an answer to that. But yeah, I think
36:23
Speaker 1: you're romantic. Job I don't. I don't really thinks bro Okay,
36:26
Speaker 1: so you're saying that you do genuinely think that she
36:28
Speaker 1: was in love with you, but there's just like some
36:30
Speaker 1: other relationship that possibly she couldn't sever. I think that
36:34
Speaker 1: she grew to love me. I think that anyone that
36:36
Speaker 1: spends time with me would have a hard time. Now
36:38
Speaker 1: I'm a gold distribut you know. I think everyone wants to,
36:41
Speaker 1: you know, watching file, give me a set here and
36:42
Speaker 1: there for me a frite. But you know, for me,
36:46
Speaker 1: I think this sit in the falling trap and therein
36:49
Speaker 1: this happened. So we're working, we're both hurting, and both
36:53
Speaker 1: of all the sasiness for the whole term feature long
36:57
Speaker 1: term teuture has been you know, affective. Uh you know
37:00
Speaker 1: in the last tun kind that's something that we can
37:03
Speaker 1: do about it. We can't come back and change. And
37:06
Speaker 1: the people that are paying and that's I'm playing that
37:08
Speaker 1: they're against me, or that the people are saying the
37:11
Speaker 1: Gordon and that they're against her. If anyone's godon guys,
37:15
Speaker 1: you don't have to be against her. It doesn't mean
37:17
Speaker 1: if she actually we don't did this. It just mean
37:19
Speaker 1: because she hasn't provided proof to show you. No one
37:22
Speaker 1: needs to be attacking with her. If you're a King
37:24
Speaker 1: Gordon's person. Hey, Fallow, what the stud does? I'm being
37:28
Speaker 1: very very Everyone needs to go out. There's no resim.
37:33
Speaker 1: Thing has to turn to time myself on it today.
37:35
Speaker 1: Everyone needs to stop attacking her. It's hard enough already. Yeah,
37:39
Speaker 1: Okayeka's coming at me, let me handle that. What's the
37:42
Speaker 1: big dog hand? A lot of kay I've got I've
37:44
Speaker 1: got this and wasn't attact like it. So anyone that stops,
37:49
Speaker 1: they're trying to attack her. So that's really nice that
37:52
Speaker 1: you're still supportive of her in that sense. Is there
37:55
Speaker 1: any chance that maybe a couple of years down the line,
37:58
Speaker 1: you'd be down to forgive and maybe continue a relationship
38:02
Speaker 1: romantically with her. I've I've forgiven her, Um, I forgive
38:06
Speaker 1: her right away. I look, guys, there's so many things
38:10
Speaker 1: that I can forgive. Oh my god, I mean there's
38:12
Speaker 1: so many things I could forgive. These tetes were so evil. Yeah,
38:17
Speaker 1: I have to know fault ever ever, even almost at
38:21
Speaker 1: this point, you even ever talked to her again? Um? Whoever?
38:25
Speaker 1: Who who never did for me? They that reading that
38:29
Speaker 1: long techt teesta about how she's start to me and
38:32
Speaker 1: all and and that she never loved me and all
38:34
Speaker 1: these things. I mean that that hurts. And so is
38:38
Speaker 1: there a chance on that? I mean, honestly, even after
38:41
Speaker 1: her trying to pend us on me? Now there's shot shot.
38:45
Speaker 1: So this is Um Jordan. This is something it's always surprising.
38:50
Speaker 1: You've been in the Bastel Nation now for a few years,
38:52
Speaker 1: and there's always something new it seems to pop up,
38:54
Speaker 1: always something that surprises us. And this is one that
38:57
Speaker 1: hurts Um. You obviously hurts Jenna. Um. People were rooting
39:03
Speaker 1: for you, guys. We appreciate you being honest and open
39:06
Speaker 1: and sharing your thoughts. I hope there's a resolution, but
39:09
Speaker 1: it feels like we're gonna close out this this interview
39:13
Speaker 1: without any end in sight. UM. And so hopefully next
39:17
Speaker 1: time we talk to you there can be some clarity,
39:20
Speaker 1: there can be a happy ending or an ending. But
39:23
Speaker 1: until then, UM, just we encourage you and Jenna both
39:28
Speaker 1: Um to continue to try to fight for resolution. Jordan,
39:31
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the podcast. We appreciate your
39:33
Speaker 1: honesty and openness. Thank you. Bye. Jordan's all right by,
39:41
Speaker 1: enjoy the gondola. I don't know how I feel about this,
39:44
Speaker 1: Actually no, I don't know. I just feel like there's
39:48
Speaker 1: a lot of unknowns, a lot of questions. It feels
39:49
Speaker 1: like it always the case, which with these kind of sagas,
39:54
Speaker 1: there's no clarity. You know, Jordan's a talker, UM, very charming,
39:59
Speaker 1: very charming. I I would imagine, just like all of these,
40:02
Speaker 1: both sides are at fault at some level. M at
40:08
Speaker 1: some level. Do you think it happened. I think that
40:13
Speaker 1: she did not have a romantic relationship with the man
40:16
Speaker 1: that she was texting. That's just my opinion on it.
40:20
Speaker 1: It doesn't make anything more right obviously. I just don't
40:24
Speaker 1: know if there you know, here's a frustrating part to me.
40:30
Speaker 1: I'm trying, we do this podcast. I'm trying to really
40:33
Speaker 1: love this this show, and I really love the Bachelor
40:36
Speaker 1: and the Bachelor and Bachelor. I really love you know,
40:38
Speaker 1: the show has been good to me. It's I think
40:40
Speaker 1: it can work. I know the ins and outs of it.
40:43
Speaker 1: It's real, you know, I invest and so now you
40:45
Speaker 1: know you knew about two years ago. Maybe when we
40:47
Speaker 1: first started this, I was having a hard time getting
40:49
Speaker 1: back into the show. It was just hard for me.
40:50
Speaker 1: I was in a weird season. I don't really like
40:51
Speaker 1: watching it. I didn't really like any of like the storylines.
40:54
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because like Jojo was a Bachelor and I
40:56
Speaker 1: was like, this is just weird. Um. And then even
40:58
Speaker 1: the season after that with Nick, like Nicks a buddy,
41:00
Speaker 1: and I didn't really like get into that too much.
41:04
Speaker 1: I'm separated, and now like over the last I mean,
41:06
Speaker 1: I feel like uh Becca's season was one of them,
41:10
Speaker 1: and even our season a little bit. I kind of
41:13
Speaker 1: emotionally invested into her, got angry and felt things for
41:16
Speaker 1: and then Paradise happened, and I really enjoyed Paradise. There
41:19
Speaker 1: was it was a great season and and I came
41:22
Speaker 1: out out of it like a fan does, and I said, Okay,
41:25
Speaker 1: there's a few things I really want to see happen here, like, yes,
41:27
Speaker 1: it was christ and Crystal, my favorite couples and my
41:29
Speaker 1: favorite characters on the show. Ever, no, but they found
41:32
Speaker 1: each other and that's awesome, and I and I'm I'm
41:34
Speaker 1: all four I would feel for them if they broke up.
41:38
Speaker 1: And then and then you have Jordan and Jenna and
41:41
Speaker 1: a couple that I was rooting for the whole time.
41:43
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, how cool is it when you
41:45
Speaker 1: have a polarizing, complicated figure like Jordan's who that America
41:49
Speaker 1: doesn't like me, has a complicated relationship with definitely, but
41:55
Speaker 1: and and then coming off, he finds a person to
41:58
Speaker 1: compliment him, to kind of break through his layers, and
42:02
Speaker 1: you see a side of the America loves because you
42:04
Speaker 1: see him kind of become comfortable, become normal, stop speaking
42:09
Speaker 1: in parables and civilies, and he just starts speaking like
42:12
Speaker 1: I like this guy. And then this happens, Ashley coach me,
42:17
Speaker 1: how am I supposed to continue to engage in this
42:19
Speaker 1: show as a fan and invest emotionally into these relationships
42:22
Speaker 1: if they keep burning me and this is about me
42:24
Speaker 1: right now? Really, you know it's about me? I don't know.
42:28
Speaker 1: I think you're just gonna have to go in with
42:30
Speaker 1: the expectation that maybe half of them are going to fail.
42:35
Speaker 1: Let's brutal. Well, I think that's kind of Um, the
42:38
Speaker 1: modern average of bachelor couples is that how I go
42:41
Speaker 1: into my relationships? Now, Well, no, you shouldn't. I don't
42:45
Speaker 1: think not. No, I don't think so. I think you
42:48
Speaker 1: should go all in. Okay, let's talk about this. Let's
42:50
Speaker 1: switch this. Let's make this about me for a little bit. Um,
42:53
Speaker 1: you're about to go on a date. I'm about to
42:55
Speaker 1: go on day. Let's say, and do I enter into
42:59
Speaker 1: these how do I what's my mindset? Do I tern
43:01
Speaker 1: into this? Going? Okay, I'm looking for my wife? Kay? Absolutely,
43:05
Speaker 1: I've always believed that the only reason for me to
43:08
Speaker 1: date husband to find my husband. I don't believe in
43:11
Speaker 1: dating for fun because I don't really think that dating
43:13
Speaker 1: is fun. Yeah, okay, so you you going to eat
43:15
Speaker 1: the first date even like this could be my husband,
43:18
Speaker 1: this could be my wife, and the pressure isn't there.
43:20
Speaker 1: You're not like pushing this person to to make that commitment,
43:23
Speaker 1: but you're saying I'm viewing this through the lens of this,
43:26
Speaker 1: this is either going to be a long term thing
43:27
Speaker 1: or not. And then the second part is, am I
43:29
Speaker 1: going in with the expectation that this will fail? You
43:32
Speaker 1: shouldn't go in with the expectation that it'll fail. I'm
43:35
Speaker 1: always a very much of positive optimistic thinker, So I
43:38
Speaker 1: always think things are going to kind of be a success.
43:40
Speaker 1: Like I always even when I was at the depths
43:43
Speaker 1: of being single and never having a boyfriend and all that,
43:47
Speaker 1: and I would say things like I haven't gonna die alone.
43:49
Speaker 1: I never really believed I was going to die alone.
43:52
Speaker 1: So no matter how many failures, I'd always be like,
43:55
Speaker 1: it's going to come through one day. So I think, like,
43:57
Speaker 1: you have to be long term optimistic, long term optimistic. Okay,
44:01
Speaker 1: so that's kind of my mindset now when I go
44:03
Speaker 1: into watching The Bachelor is I want to believe these
44:06
Speaker 1: couples will be forever. I want to believe. You know
44:09
Speaker 1: that Colton is going to meet his wife, but I
44:12
Speaker 1: also know that it might it probably won't happen, but
44:16
Speaker 1: when it does, here's a cool part. When it does happen,
44:19
Speaker 1: we need to celebrate those couples like the Tanner and
44:23
Speaker 1: Jade's and the Carly and Evans. We need to celebrate
44:26
Speaker 1: those couples because that is a huge success story. Yeah right,
44:30
Speaker 1: that's cool. So we need to celebrate Arian Lauren. Right,
44:33
Speaker 1: We've we've kind of pushed him aside. I think his
44:35
Speaker 1: bachel Nation for you know, reasons that everybody knows that
44:39
Speaker 1: this his season was you know, criticized, he made you know,
44:42
Speaker 1: he made the switcher. U. Okay, however it worked out.
44:45
Speaker 1: Becca is happy. He's happy. He's on his way to
44:47
Speaker 1: get married in January. Mari, if you're listening, I gotta
44:53
Speaker 1: change that up. Man. Um, they're gonna get married. Let's
44:57
Speaker 1: celebrate them. That's a huge sess. That's awesome. Um, prepping
45:03
Speaker 1: for weddings is tough. Actually is doing it now? Actually
45:06
Speaker 1: you're you're in full um workout mode, workout mode. I
45:11
Speaker 1: wish I've been. Really, this is my wish for myself
45:15
Speaker 1: to become a vegetarian. All I want to do is
45:17
Speaker 1: be a vegetarian. But I love cheeseburgers and tacos so much.
45:21
Speaker 1: It's you know what I would say with you, Ashley,
45:24
Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to pull off whatever it is
45:26
Speaker 1: you walk into that wedding with and so it leads
45:28
Speaker 1: me to my next email. Uh, it's from Kylie says, Hey,
45:32
Speaker 1: y'all huge fans of the podcast and a lot of
45:35
Speaker 1: the earlier episodes actually always said that Ben was going
45:37
Speaker 1: to officiate your wedding, and I was wondering, is he
45:39
Speaker 1: going to Actuley? Am I going to afficiate your wedding? Well, um,
45:43
Speaker 1: I don't know that I really mentioned that once. I mean,
45:45
Speaker 1: I think you'd be a great efficiant for weddings. I
45:47
Speaker 1: think you should really get into that. I mean, how
45:50
Speaker 1: many people around this country would hire you for that job. Well,
45:55
Speaker 1: we actually had a couple in Indianapolis, Indiana reach out once.
45:58
Speaker 1: We said that once in the podcast and they were great.
46:00
Speaker 1: I really wanted to, but it it wasn't fitting into
46:02
Speaker 1: my schedule ers previous obligations. I would have loved to
46:06
Speaker 1: be there for their wedding. I think it'd be a
46:07
Speaker 1: blast to celebrate marriage, love and life with somebody. I'd
46:10
Speaker 1: love to speak some truth. But I am doing my
46:12
Speaker 1: cousin's wedding, Rebecca and Cody. Uh, they're getting married next year,
46:17
Speaker 1: so I will be there for that. I'm practicing prepping Um,
46:20
Speaker 1: I'm gonna actually call them. Uh this week, I have
46:23
Speaker 1: on my list. I'm gonna start doing pre marital counseling.
46:26
Speaker 1: I don't know how to counsel anybody, but I want
46:28
Speaker 1: to hear their story. I want to hear why they
46:30
Speaker 1: love each other. I think it's gonna make it fun
46:32
Speaker 1: for me to stand up there and be proud to
46:34
Speaker 1: to speak to them and with them. Um, so, Rebecca
46:38
Speaker 1: and Cody, I know they listen, wait for the phone call.
46:42
Speaker 1: I'm excited. It's it's fun. Love is a cool thing,
46:44
Speaker 1: and to be there for the Efficient as the Efficient
46:47
Speaker 1: is a massive deal to me. Well, you won't be officiating,
46:52
Speaker 1: that's cool, No, no, nobody. I was just kidding, right, Yeah,
46:57
Speaker 1: I want you to be an Efficient all over the country.
47:00
Speaker 1: But Tanner Tolbert's going to appreciate our wedding. That's that's cool.
47:05
Speaker 1: Mainly been because Tanner has been with us like every
47:08
Speaker 1: step of the way, and I haven't. You have been around,
47:12
Speaker 1: but you haven't been as involved with pairing us together
47:15
Speaker 1: as Tanner has always been. Yeah, and you will crack
47:19
Speaker 1: up watching Tanner officiating. Come on, Tanner with a slate
47:22
Speaker 1: little smile. You're selling me on this right now, just
47:26
Speaker 1: let me be heard for a little bit. We'll be
47:27
Speaker 1: here for a little bit. Okay, Eastern, can we get
47:30
Speaker 1: that music again? That little thing you did, that's how
47:35
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Speaker 1: do right now. This is this podcast just feels heavy.
49:09
Speaker 1: I knew it was going to be heavy. I want
49:12
Speaker 1: to talk to you about smaller serious things. Aren't my wedding? Okay,
49:15
Speaker 1: let's talk ash Okay. First off, I think your goal
49:18
Speaker 1: should be to get a plus one. And this is
49:21
Speaker 1: a question that I have for you but also our audience,
49:24
Speaker 1: So please email Benn and Ashley at iHeart Media dot com.
49:28
Speaker 1: Jared and I think that will probably do plus ones
49:30
Speaker 1: for anybody who is like in a serious relationship six
49:34
Speaker 1: months prior to the wedding. Do you think that is? Like, wait,
49:36
Speaker 1: when's this wedding? If I'm if you're hoping I get
49:38
Speaker 1: a plus one? Okay, I got how many months? So
49:42
Speaker 1: I go, like, you have to get the girlfriend in March? Okay?
49:45
Speaker 1: The hunt? The hunt is on. Do you think that's
49:48
Speaker 1: a good amount of time it's somebody to like have
49:50
Speaker 1: a plus one? I think it's fair. I think for
49:52
Speaker 1: me it would be helpful if you told me I
49:54
Speaker 1: don't have a plus one if I wasn't in a
49:55
Speaker 1: serious relationship, like if you know, I'm not dating somebody
49:58
Speaker 1: and I felt the pressure to show up. Like what
50:00
Speaker 1: what that does is it sets up the scenario where
50:02
Speaker 1: there's a lot more single people, which makes me feel
50:05
Speaker 1: less pressured. Oh, you shouldn't feel pressured, I know. And
50:08
Speaker 1: that's why I think it's good for that six month RL.
50:10
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody should feel um upset with you
50:14
Speaker 1: for not letting letting them bring a random date to
50:16
Speaker 1: the wedding, because your wedding is going to be one
50:18
Speaker 1: that's sought after. People are gonna want to come, and
50:19
Speaker 1: so this is what happens with those types of weddings. Um,
50:23
Speaker 1: let's just say Billy Bob, you know, is a part
50:25
Speaker 1: of the Bachelor franchise, and he gets an invite to
50:27
Speaker 1: your wedding and he gets a plus one, he's going
50:30
Speaker 1: to look for the one person he can invite or
50:31
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna reach out to him wanting to be invited,
50:33
Speaker 1: and it's going to cause fake and flawed relationships, and
50:36
Speaker 1: it's gonna cause drama amongst the group. And so for you,
50:40
Speaker 1: let's keep it amongst people that care about you and
50:42
Speaker 1: really love you both. And then if you know they
50:45
Speaker 1: have somebody that they love as well, then they can
50:47
Speaker 1: bring that person. But if not, let's just have a
50:49
Speaker 1: big singles mingle. That's that's what I like. I like
50:52
Speaker 1: to be a serious relationship. And also, you don't really
50:54
Speaker 1: invite people to weddings unless you really see a future
50:56
Speaker 1: with them too. Write casual have been to wedding like years,
51:01
Speaker 1: So really, yeah, what does that say about me? I
51:03
Speaker 1: have been just so many. I have to upcoming on
51:05
Speaker 1: the East Coast. We're staying at home in Virginia. We're
51:07
Speaker 1: going back to back to weekends. But see a lot
51:09
Speaker 1: of my friends we got married young. I mean I
51:12
Speaker 1: had a buddy who got married at two. He now
51:15
Speaker 1: has three kids. I had most of my friends by
51:17
Speaker 1: the time they were twenty seven were married. And so
51:20
Speaker 1: I'm done with weddings in a sense. I mean I
51:22
Speaker 1: still got a couple, but yeah, we're pretty much done
51:23
Speaker 1: with weddings, um, except for years and um. And so
51:27
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm pumped for your wedding. I will start
51:29
Speaker 1: hunting now. Is that the right term? Is that just?
51:32
Speaker 1: Is that it's just in a very a very direct term.
51:35
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start cordially dating, being relationship I'm gonna start
51:39
Speaker 1: being relationship minded so I can get a date to
51:41
Speaker 1: Ashley and Jared's wedding. Hey, it's off season. Uh, we've
51:46
Speaker 1: pulled up some great episodes for the offseason so far.
51:48
Speaker 1: Off season one of my favorite times because we get
51:50
Speaker 1: to bring back the segment that that none of you love, um,
51:54
Speaker 1: but I love been bitches in this segment. You know,
51:59
Speaker 1: actually you've known me a little bit of time. Here,
52:01
Speaker 1: there's a very there's a couple of things that really
52:02
Speaker 1: irk me. Let's see if you can guess. You get
52:05
Speaker 1: two guesses on items in life that really irk me. Go, well,
52:09
Speaker 1: I know that Jordan's self described a bit there and
52:13
Speaker 1: you're cringing. That's number one, and number two is usually
52:19
Speaker 1: like airplane travel and etiquette, you're close, see as that's
52:22
Speaker 1: why I love you. You listening and you remember, um,
52:25
Speaker 1: you're close. So the same kind of scenario here as
52:29
Speaker 1: an airplane, but we're not on an airplane. But it's
52:31
Speaker 1: the same mindset. It's patients, it's respect, it's manners. You're
52:38
Speaker 1: standing in a grocery store, Okay. I stopped at a
52:40
Speaker 1: grocery store right by my house in Denver, Colorado, every
52:44
Speaker 1: day for a kombucha kombucha. Kombucha kombucha. Same Yet does
52:49
Speaker 1: it make you regular? It? Does? It helps u? A kombucha? Okay,
52:53
Speaker 1: that's all I want. That's all I need is a kombucha.
52:55
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk in, I'm gonna walk out. It's gonna
52:57
Speaker 1: take me no amount of time. The other day, which
53:00
Speaker 1: isn't the first time it's happened, I had to show
53:03
Speaker 1: up to the grocery store around twelve o'clock. My workout
53:05
Speaker 1: ran over. I was feeling strong. When I show up
53:08
Speaker 1: at twelve o'clock. The lunch rush hour had came in
53:10
Speaker 1: and the grocery store was a little more full than
53:12
Speaker 1: it was a typically nine o'clock in the morning, when
53:14
Speaker 1: there's no lines. But this time there's lines in every
53:17
Speaker 1: single aisle, and I find myself looking at the fifteen
53:22
Speaker 1: nimes or less line. It's full packed. I don't want
53:24
Speaker 1: to go there. But as I turned the corner, there's
53:27
Speaker 1: an open line with only two people standing in it.
53:32
Speaker 1: But I can confront it by a lady. I'm gonna
53:36
Speaker 1: say between forty and seventy with a full cart staring
53:39
Speaker 1: at me, knowing that this line is either hers or mine.
53:42
Speaker 1: Remember I only have a kombucha. Yeah, she should definitely
53:46
Speaker 1: say go ahead, sir, yes, but no, no, no, no,
53:50
Speaker 1: she moves in front of me. She moves in front
53:53
Speaker 1: of me and makes me stand in line behind two
53:56
Speaker 1: grocery carts while they check out. Now, this is this
53:59
Speaker 1: is the that's very in Guess what happens. The light
54:02
Speaker 1: on top turns off. That line is now shut down
54:06
Speaker 1: because of timing, so I have to move to my
54:08
Speaker 1: next line. And here's the point of the matter. When
54:11
Speaker 1: you're in a grocery store, when you're in an airplane,
54:13
Speaker 1: or you're standing in line in security, or you're at
54:15
Speaker 1: a restaurant, have the proper decency to surround yourself, look around,
54:21
Speaker 1: surround yourself and get a knowledge of what's happening and go.
54:24
Speaker 1: How can I let their life the people around me
54:26
Speaker 1: be a little bit easier? Am I gonna take up
54:28
Speaker 1: all of their time and make them wait another thirty
54:31
Speaker 1: minutes checking out my groceries? I'm gonna allow this poor
54:33
Speaker 1: guy who has to be on a call in a meeting,
54:37
Speaker 1: take his kimbucha and go, because as soon as he
54:39
Speaker 1: drinks it, he doesn't have a lot of time before
54:41
Speaker 1: he needs to be in his proper office the bathroom. Hey,
54:46
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Here's the thing, and this is one
54:48
Speaker 1: of last times I talk about it, and I mean it.
54:51
Speaker 1: Let's go back to how we were his five year olds.
54:53
Speaker 1: Would somebody standing over you sit telling weight line, wait
54:56
Speaker 1: your turn, respect people around you. Let's learn how stand
55:00
Speaker 1: in line again. Let's learn how to weigh our turn.
55:03
Speaker 1: Let's learn how to respect people around you. And when
55:05
Speaker 1: you find yourself in a standoff at a grocery store,
55:09
Speaker 1: please let the other person with the less amount of
55:12
Speaker 1: items go first. When it's significant different. No, yeah, we
55:19
Speaker 1: had to stare down I Honestly, I think I think
55:22
Speaker 1: she was just like wanting to one up. You know,
55:24
Speaker 1: I get it, like life gets long, and maybe it
55:27
Speaker 1: was a tough weekend, it was a you know, whatever
55:29
Speaker 1: it was. And she looked at me and it was
55:31
Speaker 1: almost like, bring it on, are you really are you
55:35
Speaker 1: really going to step in front of a fifty five
55:38
Speaker 1: ish lady with a grocery car or are you gonna
55:42
Speaker 1: wait your turn? Been? And so I had to wait
55:44
Speaker 1: my turn, which is now that I'm saying it, I
55:47
Speaker 1: guess I did the right thing. You did. But she
55:49
Speaker 1: should have just been like, oh my gosh. You know,
55:51
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