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- 0:18Speaker 1: Nobody's even given me a piss test.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Really, are you supposed to get one?
- 0:23Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying, how can you guarantee that I'm
- 0:26Speaker 1: a human?
- 0:26Speaker 3: Oh that's true? Yeah, yeah, I do think it's quite
- 0:29Speaker 3: an assumption.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Yeah, why don't you swab my mouth something?
- 0:32Speaker 2: It was never I never had to prove that when
- 0:34Speaker 2: I got a job here.
- 0:35Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like, you haven't even done any
- 0:37Speaker 1: of your due diligence.
- 0:38Speaker 3: No, nothing, You're just saying it to make everyone else comfortable. Reckless,
- 0:42Speaker 3: you know what. Sometimes you got to live in discomfort. Yeah,
- 0:44Speaker 3: sometimes you got to keep people guessing.
- 0:47Speaker 1: I think he does a reckless statement to make his fact. Anyway.
- 0:51Speaker 1: I think you can make a strong assumption that both
- 0:53Speaker 1: Ashley and I are human.
- 0:55Speaker 2: I think a strong assumption is.
- 0:57Speaker 1: A little you can make. Yeah, nine o'clock hour here
- 1:02Speaker 1: on this Thursday morning, Good morning to you know, Bucky
- 1:05Speaker 1: Jacobson here today, it's Ashley, it's Chuck with you. We
- 1:08Speaker 1: got Mike Sando joining us at nine to thirty two
- 1:11Speaker 1: preview Thursday Night Football. It's a good one and also
- 1:13Speaker 1: this week in the National Football League as well. But
- 1:17Speaker 1: college football playoff rankings are out from Tuesday, and of
- 1:21Speaker 1: course selection Sunday is now just you know, a scant
- 1:23Speaker 1: three days from now, so we'll know the entire tournament field.
- 1:27Speaker 1: And i'd like to say so the conversation will come
- 1:29Speaker 1: to an end, but obviously it will just start ramping up.
- 1:33Speaker 1: There will be fury. As Nick Saban said on Saturday,
- 1:36Speaker 1: how many teams make the college basketball tournament, like a
- 1:39Speaker 1: hundred and yet they spend two hours talking about the
- 1:43Speaker 1: two teams that didn't, you know, And there's a lot
- 1:46Speaker 1: of truth to that. It doesn't matter how small or
- 1:49Speaker 1: large you make this tournament field, there's going to be
- 1:53Speaker 1: there are going to be people that felt like they
- 1:55Speaker 1: got screwed over in the process. And so can we
- 1:59Speaker 1: just remind ourselves, even if you do have biases coming up,
- 2:04Speaker 1: that we have an actual tournament now, and it's wonderful. Yeah,
- 2:09Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of the greatest things that's happened
- 2:11Speaker 1: in the last ten years in sports that college football hasn't.
- 2:14Speaker 1: It's made the regular season better, it's made the last
- 2:17Speaker 1: couple of weeks just can't miss kind of sports if
- 2:20Speaker 1: you're a sports fan, football fan at all. And here
- 2:23Speaker 1: we sit three day shy of the tournament, and we
- 2:26Speaker 1: got a great idea as to who's going to make
- 2:28Speaker 1: the tournament, but we have no idea what's going to
- 2:31Speaker 1: happen Saturday that can jumble things up. And certainly there
- 2:35Speaker 1: are going to be a couple of controversial decisions that
- 2:38Speaker 1: are going to be made, no question about it, There's
- 2:41Speaker 1: no getting around it. The committee's got some tough decisions
- 2:43Speaker 1: to make. It's very it is really razor thin some
- 2:48Speaker 1: of these resumes, and that's what they are. They are resumes.
- 2:51Speaker 1: This is not the National Football League where we have,
- 2:55Speaker 1: you know, thirty tidy thirty two teams. We might get
- 2:57Speaker 1: there eventually, by the way, that might be what college
- 3:01Speaker 1: football becomes, just to warn you, but we don't have
- 3:04Speaker 1: a tidy thirty two teams and schedule makers and divisional alignment.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Four teams in a division you play each other twice
- 3:12Speaker 1: and you get a better assessment of who earn who
- 3:15Speaker 1: truly mathematically deserves to be in. There is an element
- 3:18Speaker 1: of a committee, a group of people having to do
- 3:22Speaker 1: their best. I put in quotes to get the right
- 3:25Speaker 1: twelve teams in, and that's what I'm concerned about. I
- 3:28Speaker 1: want the right twelve teams. The deserving twelve teams to
- 3:32Speaker 1: get into the tournament field. A lot of people get
- 3:36Speaker 1: angry at the eye test, and then where's the eye test?
- 3:39Speaker 1: Clearly that team's better, you know, well, I don't really
- 3:44Speaker 1: The eye test has to be a part of this
- 3:46Speaker 1: decision making, but I want the resumes to speak for themselves,
- 3:51Speaker 1: and that's got to be the primary weapon that has
- 3:56Speaker 1: to be used on Sunday to try to determine these twelve.
- 4:00Speaker 1: But undeniably we're going to be dealing with people's biases. Yeah,
- 4:07Speaker 1: that are going to come into play. And let's start
- 4:09Speaker 1: with the big bias. And the big bias is that
- 4:13Speaker 1: people think that the biases of the committee are going
- 4:15Speaker 1: to infect this entire.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Process, right, Yeah, absolutely, especially with the SEC and the
- 4:21Speaker 3: ESPN and the YES.
- 4:23Speaker 1: And there's no avoiding that entirely. No matter what committee
- 4:28Speaker 1: that you put together, odds are there's going to be
- 4:32Speaker 1: somebody that's got an affiliation to one of the conferences
- 4:35Speaker 1: or maybe to one of the individual teams. So there's
- 4:38Speaker 1: probably no avoiding bias being sprinkled into this. But I
- 4:44Speaker 1: also would just sort of warn a little bit a
- 4:48Speaker 1: little bit. I don't want to be naive about it.
- 4:50Speaker 1: I think that ESPN is a powerful force, and the
- 4:54Speaker 1: conferences themselves are powerful forces, and certain conferences have more
- 4:58Speaker 1: sway than others. But also those conferences are better conferences. Yeah,
- 5:05Speaker 1: that's just then, and the SEC are just better than
- 5:08Speaker 1: the Big twelve and the ACC just are Yeah, that's
- 5:13Speaker 1: not a bias, that's fact. At least we now have
- 5:16Speaker 1: a tournament where those ACC teams that may have been overlooked,
- 5:20Speaker 1: or even a group of five team has a chance
- 5:24Speaker 1: to prove your biases or your belief in fact is wrong.
- 5:29Speaker 1: We are going to come in here and beat all
- 5:31Speaker 1: of these SEC teams. At least we have a format
- 5:33Speaker 1: that can prove that on the field right now. But
- 5:36Speaker 1: there's no way to get rid of all of the biases.
- 5:38Speaker 1: And I'm not going to be naive. I realize there
- 5:40Speaker 1: are powerful forces, powerful entities at play here that hold
- 5:44Speaker 1: sway over this process. But I would just remind you
- 5:48Speaker 1: we've had one of these. We've had one of these tournaments.
- 5:51Speaker 2: And everybody already wants to change.
- 5:53Speaker 1: It and there need to be changed, and there have been,
- 5:57Speaker 1: but not to twenty four teams or anything. There have
- 5:59Speaker 1: been changes. We've made adjustments. Boise State's not gonna I mean,
- 6:03Speaker 1: Tulane's not gonna get a three seed. No, right, So
- 6:07Speaker 1: we are making adjustments and changes as we go, which
- 6:10Speaker 1: is what we should do until we really do have
- 6:13Speaker 1: the system down that we want in place. But I
- 6:16Speaker 1: would just say we've had one of these things so far,
- 6:19Speaker 1: and for all of you that are just sure that
- 6:22Speaker 1: the SEC is going to get just way too much credit.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Alabama was the first team out last year, SMU was
- 6:32Speaker 1: the last team in. Now, there was a two lost
- 6:35Speaker 1: differential between those two teams, but I think we can
- 6:40Speaker 1: all agree based on the way s the SMU performed
- 6:44Speaker 1: in the tournament that Alabama probably was the better team.
- 6:50Speaker 1: I mean, eye test, Alabama probably was better than SMU
- 6:54Speaker 1: last year. If they played ad the head, they probably
- 6:56Speaker 1: would have beaten them.
- 6:57Speaker 2: I think so.
- 6:58Speaker 1: But let's get them a little bit of credit before
- 7:01Speaker 1: we just assume that this thing's just going to become
- 7:04Speaker 1: another political nightmare in our lives. They went with SMU
- 7:09Speaker 1: one year of doing this, and they chose the team
- 7:12Speaker 1: with the better resume over the team they thought was
- 7:16Speaker 1: better head to head had they played head to head.
- 7:19Speaker 1: So can we give them a little bit of credit
- 7:20Speaker 1: for the SULD. Yeah, before we just assume that this
- 7:23Speaker 1: year they're just gonna go with all SEC and Big
- 7:25Speaker 1: ten teams and screw over the little guy.
- 7:27Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.
- 7:28Speaker 3: I mean, so far, they haven't given us a reason
- 7:31Speaker 3: to think they're going to do that. So I don't
- 7:33Speaker 3: think we should make that assumption that it's gonna because
- 7:35Speaker 3: that's kind of how the old system was, right, Like,
- 7:37Speaker 3: you're going to you're going to screw over the little
- 7:39Speaker 3: guy in these big Bowl games and things like that,
- 7:42Speaker 3: because nobody wants to watch that. So yes, as you said,
- 7:46Speaker 3: we've had one year of this and they did it right,
- 7:47Speaker 3: so right, Yeah, so have some faith in them.
- 7:50Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see. I mean, I think criticizing it,
- 7:55Speaker 1: arguing for it the following week, the following Monday, that's
- 7:58Speaker 1: part of the process. That's part of the fun.
- 8:00Speaker 3: Frankly, there's either way it works out, there's going to
- 8:02Speaker 3: be people who are.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Mad, without question. Yeah, And that's really what I want
- 8:07Speaker 1: to emphasize in this segment, because let's take Texas fans
- 8:11Speaker 1: for example. I think you've got a tremendous argument. Boy,
- 8:17Speaker 1: you really aren't encouraging programs in the future to schedule
- 8:23Speaker 1: any good teams in the non conference. Yeah, if you're
- 8:26Speaker 1: not putting us in. I mean, Texas and Ohio State
- 8:30Speaker 1: both had the guts to face one another, you know,
- 8:34Speaker 1: knowing what kind of format we were heading into, and
- 8:38Speaker 1: they gave us the treat way back in Week number
- 8:41Speaker 1: one of being able to see Texas and Ohio State
- 8:43Speaker 1: right out of the gates to set the tone for
- 8:46Speaker 1: what has been another wildly entertaining college football season. And
- 8:52Speaker 1: we appreciate it. And what Texas is saying, and it's
- 8:56Speaker 1: a great argument, and a lot of people are making
- 8:58Speaker 1: the argument on behalf of Texas is man, you're discouraging
- 9:03Speaker 1: people from ever scheduling a good non conference opponent if
- 9:09Speaker 1: you don't put Texas into the tournament. And I think
- 9:13Speaker 1: that's a good argument. Now I would counter with, hey,
- 9:17Speaker 1: you scheduling Ohio State had nothing to do with you
- 9:20Speaker 1: losing by nine points on the road to a four
- 9:23Speaker 1: win team, and you did. You lost to Florida, who
- 9:27Speaker 1: couldn't beat anybody there.
- 9:28Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say.
- 9:29Speaker 3: I was like, I don't think they'd be left out
- 9:30Speaker 3: because of the loss at Ohio State.
- 9:32Speaker 2: That's not why Florida loss.
- 9:34Speaker 1: But if they're sitting there at ten and two, and
- 9:37Speaker 1: they didn't play Ohio State. They're probably getting in. They
- 9:41Speaker 1: probably are even with the loss to Florida. But you
- 9:45Speaker 1: also created your own resume ding and that has to
- 9:51Speaker 1: factor into the conversation.
- 9:53Speaker 2: You can't ignore it.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Texas is not getting in again. Texas long range fans,
- 9:59Speaker 1: I don't know if any of them are listening. You
- 10:01Speaker 1: have a great argument here, but there's also a great
- 10:04Speaker 1: argument against. You were splitting hairs here. On Sunday, there's
- 10:10Speaker 1: the hair splitting that's going to take place between Notre
- 10:14Speaker 1: Dame versus Miami and the conversation that will be held there.
- 10:20Speaker 1: I mean, they might end up both being out. I'll
- 10:23Speaker 1: just warn you. Notre Dame dropped in the polls for
- 10:26Speaker 1: a reason. Tuesday, they're on blast. Notre Dame is rooting
- 10:32Speaker 1: for Texas Tech like nobody's business because BYU could steal
- 10:37Speaker 1: their spot in the tournament with a win over Texas Tech.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Notre Dame's on the bubble. Being at number ten puts
- 10:44Speaker 1: them officially on the bubble. They could be bounced out
- 10:46Speaker 1: of this thing entirely if Alabama and BYU win. As
- 10:51Speaker 1: a matter of fact, they did a poll, they did
- 10:53Speaker 1: an analytical Data poll on ESPN Wednesday morning and said,
- 11:00Speaker 1: if Alabama and by you win this weekend, Notre Dame
- 11:04Speaker 1: has ready for this a zero percent chance, that makes
- 11:08Speaker 1: my hard hap of making the tournament. But odds are.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Odds are It's coming down to Notre Dame or Miami.
- 11:16Speaker 1: I know for the last spot, and I would just
- 11:20Speaker 1: tell either fan base that, yes, you've got a great argument,
- 11:27Speaker 1: because you want head to head against Notre Dame and
- 11:29Speaker 1: you have the exact same record. You have a great argument, Miami,
- 11:34Speaker 1: Notre Dame, you have a great argument. You overcame an
- 11:36Speaker 1: O two start. The two games you lost, you lost
- 11:38Speaker 1: on the last play of the year. You've won ten
- 11:40Speaker 1: straight games, and you are mauling people right now. You
- 11:43Speaker 1: look like by the eye test like you are absolutely
- 11:48Speaker 1: one of the top ten teams twelve teams in the country,
- 11:50Speaker 1: maybe one of the top four. That's what Notre Dame
- 11:53Speaker 1: looks like right now. So if Notre Dame gets over Miami, no,
- 11:58Speaker 1: we don't have some big comment traversy. They technically, in
- 12:02Speaker 1: my opinion, have the better resume because they don't have
- 12:04Speaker 1: a bad loss. Miami has a bad loss. They also
- 12:09Speaker 1: playing a week conference. But if Miami were to get in.
- 12:12Speaker 1: I don't want to hear from Notre Dame people either.
- 12:14Speaker 2: Nope, should have beat them.
- 12:16Speaker 1: You should be in a conference.
- 12:18Speaker 2: Well, that's the biggest issue there.
- 12:19Speaker 1: You should face better competition consistently. Good on you for
- 12:23Speaker 1: scheduling Notre Dame and Texas A and M to start
- 12:26Speaker 1: the year. Bet you didn't realize Texas A and M
- 12:28Speaker 1: was that. Good. Good on you for doing that. College
- 12:32Speaker 1: football fans thank you for that, for giving us that
- 12:35Speaker 1: early in the season. But if you don't make it,
- 12:38Speaker 1: facing your subpar schedule that you face, and your insistence
- 12:42Speaker 1: on facing Stanford, an Army and Navy every year, that
- 12:47Speaker 1: don't hold up against the competition that exists in the
- 12:50Speaker 1: SEC and these in the Big Ten. If you want
- 12:54Speaker 1: to just keep playing that game, as Brady Quinn said
- 12:57Speaker 1: earlier this week, former Notre Dame five irish, we have
- 13:02Speaker 1: to go eleven in one if we're not going to
- 13:04Speaker 1: be in a conference. Otherwise we're gonna have to face
- 13:06Speaker 1: the fact we're probably going to be left out.
- 13:07Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's your own fault. You could join a conference.
- 13:10Speaker 1: You could, but you're too arrogant. YEP. So I don't
- 13:13Speaker 1: want to hear either way. Wherever that cookie crumbles, I
- 13:15Speaker 1: want to hear it either way. There's an argument for it,
- 13:17Speaker 1: there's an argument against. And then it isn't going to
- 13:19Speaker 1: be the occasion mark to light the world on fire
- 13:25Speaker 1: because of one of the worst that hastory.
- 13:27Speaker 2: Of college football, right right right.
- 13:30Speaker 1: And then I would also because I think this is
- 13:33Speaker 1: what enters the equation. Whenever you have such a tightly
- 13:38Speaker 1: bunched thing that does allow for a little bit of bias.
- 13:42Speaker 1: What happens. What happens always when you have these debates,
- 13:46Speaker 1: your own personal biases come in and you convince yourself.
- 13:49Speaker 1: I mean, I've been dealing with it off air with
- 13:51Speaker 1: Bucky every single week. How's Texas Tech ahead of us? Yeah,
- 13:56Speaker 1: he's an organ fan. How's How's Ole Miss ahead of us?
- 13:59Speaker 1: They play the Citadel this week? Well, he's not who
- 14:02Speaker 1: you just played the entire resume of the season. And
- 14:07Speaker 1: the only thing that's driving Bucky's feeling that Oregon's getting
- 14:11Speaker 1: screwed even though they're clearly in is his own biases.
- 14:16Speaker 1: Coward his favorite team, and he's not some rabid Oregon
- 14:19Speaker 1: fan by the way he gets painted that way. We
- 14:22Speaker 1: have fun with him, right but he's not like.
- 14:24Speaker 2: Some He's not the softy of Oregon.
- 14:26Speaker 1: He's not the softy of Oregon. He likes Oregon. He
- 14:29Speaker 1: prefers them to Washington. Yes, I think he has a
- 14:33Speaker 1: duck sweatshirt, but he's not some rabid fan. And yet
- 14:36Speaker 1: even he allows his biases. I mean, I don't know
- 14:40Speaker 1: how many times off the are he said, how's Texas Tech?
- 14:42Speaker 1: I had Oregon? Yeah, well, Texas Tech has a better
- 14:45Speaker 1: resume than Oregon. They have three wins over top twenty
- 14:49Speaker 1: five teams, and they've won each of them by more
- 14:52Speaker 1: than twenty points.
- 14:53Speaker 2: I'd say that's pretty good.
- 14:55Speaker 1: They have one loss Arizona State, and yeah, that's not
- 14:58Speaker 1: a bad loss. They were eight and four this year
- 15:01Speaker 1: I think, yeah, eight and four, But they also at
- 15:04Speaker 1: the time had Sam Levitt, so they actually had their
- 15:07Speaker 1: NFL caliber quarterback. They didn't have him for the second
- 15:12Speaker 1: half of the season. They had him for Texas Tech
- 15:15Speaker 1: and they beat Texas Tech. And although you do, as
- 15:18Speaker 1: a committee have to say you lost to an eight
- 15:20Speaker 1: and four team, that's part of the equation. That conversation,
- 15:25Speaker 1: that eye test conversation does filter in, and somebody has
- 15:29Speaker 1: to bring up the fact that they lost to that team,
- 15:31Speaker 1: but Arizona State was much better with an NFL caliber
- 15:34Speaker 1: quarterback Heisman candidate at the beginning of the year and
- 15:38Speaker 1: Sam Levitt, So that does factor into the conversation. Texas
- 15:41Speaker 1: Tech has a better resume than Oregon. And the only
- 15:44Speaker 1: reason that a Duck fan would think that they don't
- 15:46Speaker 1: is because they're a Duck fan.
- 15:48Speaker 3: Right, just like any That's the only reason that Notre
- 15:50Speaker 3: Dame fans would be mad if they get left out. Yes, anybody,
- 15:53Speaker 3: it's because your bias is taking over. And I'm guilty
- 15:56Speaker 3: of that too.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the more emotion that you pour
- 16:00Speaker 1: into your own favorite team, the more biased you are
- 16:05Speaker 1: when it comes to these decisions you want. There is
- 16:08Speaker 1: a huge difference between making it into the college football
- 16:12Speaker 1: Playoff and being left out. Yeah, that changes your life
- 16:16Speaker 1: as a sports fan. But there are gonna be teams
- 16:19Speaker 1: left out, and whoever is left out, there is an argument,
- 16:23Speaker 1: a really sound argument for them being left out. And
- 16:26Speaker 1: maybe there's a fifty point three percent chance you're right
- 16:31Speaker 1: your team should have gotten in. There's a forty nine
- 16:34Speaker 1: point seven percent chance that now they didn't belong. Yeah, No,
- 16:38Speaker 1: So yeah, there are arguments to be made for about
- 16:41Speaker 1: five or six teams that are probably gonna get screwed
- 16:44Speaker 1: out of this thing.
- 16:45Speaker 2: That's what's interesting.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Everybody keeps talking about how Alabama can't have a loss
- 16:50Speaker 1: that Georgia held against them because they earned the right
- 16:53Speaker 1: to play another game this year. There's resume should be frozen.
- 16:58Speaker 1: This is the ESPN. Of course, their resumes should be
- 17:02Speaker 1: frozen to where it is right now. They should not
- 17:04Speaker 1: lose any ground. And yet you're gonna allow them to
- 17:06Speaker 1: gain ground, aren't you? If they beat Georgia twy George
- 17:10Speaker 1: is gonna lose ground, are they not? If Alabama beats
- 17:13Speaker 1: them twice, don't they flip? I would assume so, wouldn't
- 17:17Speaker 1: you assume?
- 17:17Speaker 3: So?
- 17:17Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 17:18Speaker 1: So, how can we not use the how can we
- 17:20Speaker 1: not use a loss at this point? Even though they
- 17:23Speaker 1: earned their way and by the way, they earned their
- 17:25Speaker 1: way ever so slightly, it was just a series of tiebreakers.
- 17:30Speaker 1: It's not like they were undefeated in the SEC and
- 17:32Speaker 1: old mislost two games. No, it was a series of
- 17:35Speaker 1: mathematical tiebreakers. Is what put Alabama in the championship game
- 17:40Speaker 1: to begin with. So if they lost a third game,
- 17:43Speaker 1: when we're talking about an eyelash difference between them and
- 17:47Speaker 1: the two or three four teams that are behind them. Yeah,
- 17:50Speaker 1: I think that we should use that third loss, Yeah,
- 17:53Speaker 1: against them. I would agree because we're gonna You know,
- 17:55Speaker 1: if that's the case, then why isn't BYU in. BYU loses,
- 18:01Speaker 1: why shouldn't they.
- 18:01Speaker 2: Yeah, they shouldn't be punished for losing.
- 18:03Speaker 1: Eleven and one, right, Yeah, because we're freezing all the resumes. Yep,
- 18:07Speaker 1: I guarantee you if they lose twice to Texas Tech
- 18:09Speaker 1: by twenty points or more, there's no chance BYU's getting in,
- 18:14Speaker 1: no chance BYU's getting in. They have to win on Saturday.
- 18:18Speaker 2: So somebody should tell their offense that.
- 18:19Speaker 1: I mean, I would love to see Vanderbilt in this thing.
- 18:22Speaker 1: I would vote Diego Paba the Heisman Trophy winner. I
- 18:26Speaker 1: think he's the greatest story in college football right now,
- 18:29Speaker 1: and I like seeing great stories rewarded. A ten and
- 18:32Speaker 1: two Vanderbilt with the Heisman Trophy runner up favorite.
- 18:38Speaker 2: Look at what he's doing for their program too.
- 18:40Speaker 3: Just in general, they just got like the best recruit
- 18:42Speaker 3: to decommit and commit to Vanderbilt, and.
- 18:45Speaker 1: Nate Bargatzi has a lot to do with that.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Too.
- 18:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I'll give him a lot of credit.
- 18:49Speaker 1: But i'd like see Vanderbilt in. They're probably not going
- 18:53Speaker 1: to get in. They're probably not going There are going
- 18:55Speaker 1: to be some teams that are worthy of being tournament teams,
- 18:58Speaker 1: but I can promise you that, just to wrap up
- 19:00Speaker 1: the conversation, if one of those four or five teams
- 19:04Speaker 1: that doesn't get in doesn't get in, it's for a
- 19:06Speaker 1: very good reason. It's not because of biases or idiots
- 19:10Speaker 1: or anything like that. It is very difficult to try
- 19:13Speaker 1: to figure out who the twelve spots belong to, and
- 19:17Speaker 1: there is eyelash difference between some of these resumes, and
- 19:21Speaker 1: the committee is going to do its best, and if
- 19:23Speaker 1: they screw up, in my opinion, I'll criticize them for it.
- 19:26Speaker 1: That's part of the fun. But I just don't want
- 19:29Speaker 1: people getting carried away with their biases because that's all they.
- 19:33Speaker 2: Truly are, right.
- 19:34Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't put yourself in those shoes of someone
- 19:37Speaker 3: on a committee and then try to say that you
- 19:38Speaker 3: would do a better job because your biases would sneak
- 19:41Speaker 3: in for sure.
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- 19:54Speaker 1: good morning, and yes it's our Thursday treat of checking
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- 20:05Speaker 1: you do, Mike. Sando is with us right here on
- 20:07Speaker 1: Chucking Buck. Hello, Michael, good morning. How are we doing.
- 20:10Speaker 1: We're doing all right? Would you say that? Wouldn't you
- 20:12Speaker 1: say that the average person that thinks that they like
- 20:15Speaker 1: football more than you, would you like push them down
- 20:18Speaker 1: and taunt them. Oh?
- 20:19Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean just just being a professional with that resume,
- 20:22Speaker 4: you know. I mean, there's just no one to compare
- 20:24Speaker 4: clearly to. I don't think anymore. I honestly don't. No
- 20:27Speaker 4: way people are. People are so crazed. It's great. Whenever
- 20:32Speaker 4: we meet a we call him super fan. The superfan
- 20:35Speaker 4: is somebody who really is into it. It's always so
- 20:39Speaker 4: great because, I mean, their interest is the key to
- 20:41Speaker 4: all of this working, you know, So that's true. I
- 20:44Speaker 4: love it when we find people that are totally into it,
- 20:46Speaker 4: passionate about it. It's great.
- 20:48Speaker 1: Well man, I think everybody's excited for this game tonight,
- 20:51Speaker 1: and it's not like it's the two best teams in
- 20:53Speaker 1: the National Football League. But man, it's fun. It kind
- 20:56Speaker 1: of feels like maybe playoff could be on the line,
- 21:00Speaker 1: playoff spot. If you lose this game, maybe you are
- 21:02Speaker 1: on the outside looking in. And I think points are
- 21:05Speaker 1: going to be scored all over the place. This is
- 21:08Speaker 1: a Thursday night football game you can sink your teeth.
- 21:11Speaker 4: Into it is. This almost feels like Thanksgiving matchup, doesn't it.
- 21:16Speaker 4: These teams are always on Thanksgiving not playing each other.
- 21:18Speaker 4: But I'm with you. I think, you know, Dallas is
- 21:21Speaker 4: kind of a fun, interesting team. They've beaten Philly in
- 21:23Speaker 4: Kansas City in their last couple of games, and now
- 21:26Speaker 4: you know, Detroit has their issues, but it's another preseason
- 21:29Speaker 4: kind of, you know, super Bowl type team. So it's
- 21:32Speaker 4: I'm kind of curious to see the Cowboys defense. It
- 21:34Speaker 4: feels like it's been better, but could be really exposed
- 21:37Speaker 4: again in this game by you know, probably a pretty
- 21:40Speaker 4: complete Lions offense. So I love this one.
- 21:43Speaker 1: This week.
- 21:44Speaker 4: This seems I just feel like they've done the league
- 21:47Speaker 4: has done probably a better job or maybe gotten luckier
- 21:49Speaker 4: this year with having better matchups in primetime. Just overall,
- 21:53Speaker 4: you know, they've given the Monday Night Football, better games.
- 21:56Speaker 4: This is a Thursday game that doesn't feel like one
- 21:58Speaker 4: of those Houston Jacksonville ones we've got over the years.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Right, Man, it used to be so bad. It was
- 22:02Speaker 1: like they purposely pick the worst game on the schedule
- 22:05Speaker 1: to put on Thursdays.
- 22:06Speaker 4: Exactly like Miami against Houston. You're like, okay, you know whatever,
- 22:10Speaker 4: they both lost too in a row. You know, this
- 22:12Speaker 4: is really really fun. So I'm with you. I love
- 22:15Speaker 4: this and I think it's been that way this year
- 22:18Speaker 4: with better games.
- 22:19Speaker 1: All Right, Seahawks play the Falcons on Sunday? Are you
- 22:25Speaker 1: as each week progresses here, are you getting more impressed
- 22:30Speaker 1: by the defense or more concerned about the Seahawks offense,
- 22:34Speaker 1: which has not performed as well here in the last
- 22:36Speaker 1: three weeks.
- 22:37Speaker 4: A little more concerned about the offense. Okay, I think
- 22:39Speaker 4: this is a good test.
- 22:40Speaker 1: This week.
- 22:41Speaker 4: They're playing a team that number one Rahiem Morris interviewed
- 22:44Speaker 4: for the Seahawks job. He's probably studied them a little bit.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Obviously he's with the Rams, so he's going to know them.
- 22:49Speaker 4: Their defensive coordinators, Jeff Olbrook, who was a linebacker on
- 22:52Speaker 4: the forty nine ers for years, definitely knows this. You
- 22:55Speaker 4: know this division. Their offensive coordinator is Zach Robinson, who
- 22:59Speaker 4: has comes from from Sean mcfish. So there's a lot
- 23:01Speaker 4: of familiarity here between these teams that you wouldn't think
- 23:04Speaker 4: about necessarily just looking at the matchup. So I think
- 23:07Speaker 4: Seattle had got solved pretty much offensively with Brian Flores
- 23:11Speaker 4: knowing Darnold right made it uncomfortable.
- 23:14Speaker 1: It seemed like they.
- 23:15Speaker 4: Batted down a bit every other pass.
- 23:16Speaker 1: They just had a beat on it.
- 23:18Speaker 4: And they were the first team that really took Jack
- 23:20Speaker 4: Smith and Jigba, not that they needed him to have
- 23:22Speaker 4: a big game, but two catches, you know, twenty some
- 23:24Speaker 4: yards coming off of the Ram game.
- 23:27Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 23:28Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is one of those where, look,
- 23:30Speaker 4: you're Seattle, You're going to finish this season with the Colts,
- 23:33Speaker 4: the Rams, Panthers, and forty nine ers. So their final
- 23:37Speaker 4: four games are all against teams that have winning records
- 23:39Speaker 4: right now, and so this is another one of those
- 23:42Speaker 4: games against Atlanta where you have a chance to put
- 23:45Speaker 4: everything together.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Tennessee.
- 23:47Speaker 4: They did that early, they're up thirty to ten or something,
- 23:49Speaker 4: but it ends up being thirty twenty four. So yeah,
- 23:52Speaker 4: I'm a little worried about the offense, but I just
- 23:55Speaker 4: want to see it do be a little bit more
- 23:58Speaker 4: consistent and knucket solved.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Atlanta just is in a bad place right now. I
- 24:03Speaker 1: don't I personally editorializing here, don't. I don't think Raheem
- 24:07Speaker 1: Morris is going to make it through the off season.
- 24:09Speaker 1: And I don't understand how an organization could invest that
- 24:12Speaker 1: much draft capital, hi top ten draft pick and their
- 24:16Speaker 1: offense and their skill positions, and then hire a defensive coordinator.
- 24:20Speaker 1: Why is it that the Atlanta Falcons always seem to
- 24:23Speaker 1: be a hot mess.
- 24:25Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think that they're you know, we talked
- 24:28Speaker 4: about Raheem Morris. I just think they're GM. Terry Fonteno
- 24:31Speaker 4: has been there since twenty twenty one. He came from
- 24:33Speaker 4: the Saints. I'm sure he did a good job with
- 24:35Speaker 4: whatever his job was. But as a GM, they've made
- 24:38Speaker 4: moves that just instantly, you know, win against best practices.
- 24:44Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is this continually using
- 24:46Speaker 4: top ten picks for running backs, tight ends, why even
- 24:50Speaker 4: wide receiver for where they're at in their team, needing
- 24:52Speaker 4: to get better on the lines, and so that put
- 24:54Speaker 4: them in a position this last draft where oh we
- 24:56Speaker 4: got We really need extra liignement on defense, So let's
- 24:59Speaker 4: trade a first round this year, right. They just made
- 25:01Speaker 4: moves like chasing bad decisions with bad decisions, bad money
- 25:05Speaker 4: with bad money. And now they've lost one, two, three, five,
- 25:08Speaker 4: six of their last seven and they're gonna finish, by
- 25:11Speaker 4: the way, They've got Seattle, Tampa and the Rams among
- 25:14Speaker 4: their remaining games. So I'm with you. I think it
- 25:16Speaker 4: looks looks bleak for them. I don't know. I think
- 25:19Speaker 4: Raheem Morris was a good coaching candidate. I was very
- 25:22Speaker 4: supportive of him getting a job, But I've been a
- 25:25Speaker 4: little bit, you know. I was more impressed with him
- 25:28Speaker 4: the candidate than I have been as him in this job.
- 25:31Speaker 1: I thought he was a.
- 25:31Speaker 4: Great candidate as a second chance guy. Seems like he's
- 25:35Speaker 4: got good leadership, you know, and it's just not working
- 25:39Speaker 4: for whatever reason, you know. Some of the reasons. He
- 25:41Speaker 4: got to have a good quarterback.
- 25:42Speaker 1: But still, yeah, Mike Sander was with us. Our NFL
- 25:45Speaker 1: insider joins us every Thursday thanks to Hunts Services. Does
- 25:50Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and Cincinnati have enough time to get back
- 25:53Speaker 1: in this thing? I got a big game against Buffalo.
- 25:55Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun quarterback matchup, but I'm wondering
- 25:58Speaker 1: if there's more to it than just a quarter matchup.
- 26:01Speaker 4: I don't think they can do it from four to eight.
- 26:04Speaker 4: I think the margin of air is too small for
- 26:06Speaker 4: a team that really still does have defensive issues. Now,
- 26:09Speaker 4: their defense played better this last week. They did beat Baltimore,
- 26:13Speaker 4: so but they got Baltimore again. Do you think they're
- 26:15Speaker 4: gonna sweep Baltimore?
- 26:16Speaker 1: Probably not.
- 26:17Speaker 4: They've got Buffalo, you know, Miami's been playing better. Even
- 26:20Speaker 4: Cleveland has a good defense, So I think they're gonna lose,
- 26:24Speaker 4: you know, at least one more game, even with Joe
- 26:27Speaker 4: Burrow coming back. That puts you at eight to nine.
- 26:29Speaker 4: I just don't see that doing it.
- 26:31Speaker 1: How do you handicap the AFC South right now? Jacksonville, Indianapolis, Houston.
- 26:35Speaker 1: Who's your favorite to come out of there? Now? They're
- 26:37Speaker 1: only a game apart.
- 26:38Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Houston's the best team, but they're they're
- 26:41Speaker 4: one game behind the editors, So to me, I still
- 26:43Speaker 4: think it's Houston and Indy All. I may lean towards Houston.
- 26:47Speaker 4: I just think they're so good on defense. We'll see
- 26:49Speaker 4: this week they play Kansas City, will definitely have a
- 26:52Speaker 4: better feel. I think they're in good position with the
- 26:54Speaker 4: Chiefs offensive line hurting to maybe get that. And if
- 26:57Speaker 4: they do, then I really like them. I think it's PIV.
- 27:00Speaker 4: If they don't beat can't site this week, you know,
- 27:02Speaker 4: I may lean towards one of the other teams.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Same question, the same question about the NFC North. I mean,
- 27:07Speaker 1: are the Bears really this good? I'm not buying it yet.
- 27:10Speaker 4: No, they're definitely not. But I think I wrote this
- 27:13Speaker 4: in my pick six column on Monday. I wouldn't measure
- 27:16Speaker 4: them that way. I think there are they making progress?
- 27:19Speaker 4: Do you like what's going on with this coach? Yes?
- 27:21Speaker 4: But but I'm with you, you know, of I think
- 27:23Speaker 4: I looked at this this last week. You know, their
- 27:27Speaker 4: record is way better than like what their point differential is.
- 27:30Speaker 4: You know, so sometimes you guard, you measure your record
- 27:33Speaker 4: and you look for a couple of other things like
- 27:34Speaker 4: point differential. Does it all line up? And it really
- 27:37Speaker 4: doesn't for them. I think of all the teams that
- 27:39Speaker 4: are nine and three, they're like plus six in point
- 27:43Speaker 4: differential and it's like the third worst you know, either
- 27:46Speaker 4: on record or for decades or something. So that tells
- 27:49Speaker 4: you that they're a little bit of a mirage, but
- 27:52Speaker 4: I still think it's a good mirage for them.
- 27:54Speaker 1: You know, six teams with nine wins or more than
- 27:57Speaker 1: three of them and are in our division. So how
- 28:00Speaker 1: do you what do you make of Rams, Seahawks forty
- 28:02Speaker 1: nine ers. Obviously, if I'm going to ask you about
- 28:04Speaker 1: the NFC North, I got to ask you about the
- 28:06Speaker 1: NFC West.
- 28:07Speaker 4: Well, I think the Rams open the door for Seattle
- 28:09Speaker 4: now to win the rematch on a short week when
- 28:11Speaker 4: they play on that Thursday night, and maybe Seattle can
- 28:14Speaker 4: win the division.
- 28:14Speaker 3: Now.
- 28:14Speaker 4: I think it was going to be the Rams until
- 28:16Speaker 4: they lost to Carolina. It's still you know, it's still
- 28:18Speaker 4: maybe fifty to fifty. I don't think that the Ford
- 28:21Speaker 4: Niners will do it, but they've already beat Seattle on
- 28:25Speaker 4: the Rams, so you know, I think they're a interesting team.
- 28:29Speaker 4: Eight and two in the conference, pretty good. But I
- 28:31Speaker 4: do think it's going to come down to Seattle and
- 28:33Speaker 4: the Rams. It's probably fifty to fifty. I probably go
- 28:35Speaker 4: fifty one to forty nine Rams because they got the
- 28:37Speaker 4: win already against Seattle, but I think Sales trending in
- 28:41Speaker 4: the right direction to maybe get it.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Well, another great week on Tap and the National Football League.
- 28:47Speaker 1: Never a dull moment, is there, Mike, there's not.
- 28:50Speaker 4: And I just want to say, hey, happy holidays to everybody.
- 28:53Speaker 4: I love coming on and doing this every week. And oh,
- 28:55Speaker 4: I hope you guys have a great week great weekend,
- 28:57Speaker 4: and some good Seahawk ball this weekend.
- 28:59Speaker 1: And let's enjoy it, all right. I love it. Thank you, Mike,
- 29:02Speaker 1: appreciate that.
- 29:02Speaker 4: Thank you all right.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Mike Sando, our NFL insider, joins us every Thursday throughout
- 29:07Speaker 1: the football season. Uh and uh and we we we
- 29:11Speaker 1: appreciate him too. We want him to have its. Oh
- 29:14Speaker 1: that Mike Sando, He's just a doll.
- 29:17Speaker 2: He really is just a doorm His.
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- 29:53Speaker 1: your way next. It's our last segment of the day.
- 29:55Speaker 1: Ashley and I. We always do one last thing. Doesn't
- 29:59Speaker 1: matter if Bucky's not here, We're doing one last thing.
- 30:01Speaker 3: So what do you got, Ashley, Well, I've been thinking
- 30:03Speaker 3: about this all week, and then today we did get
- 30:05Speaker 3: a text about it, confirming my fears.
- 30:07Speaker 1: Oh.
- 30:08Speaker 3: You know, when we do Factor fiction, we play the
- 30:11Speaker 3: eagle screech that's not actually an eagle, it's a hawk,
- 30:14Speaker 3: see doodle, and our dear listener, Keith just lives for
- 30:20Speaker 3: the screech.
- 30:20Speaker 1: Okay, that's good.
- 30:22Speaker 3: And so I've been worried about what happens when Factor
- 30:25Speaker 3: fiction is over, because the screech is no more. Yeah,
- 30:30Speaker 3: and he texted in today only two more screeches right
- 30:33Speaker 3: before Factor fiction.
- 30:34Speaker 2: Gee. So I think he's gonna have a very.
- 30:36Speaker 3: Hard time with this, and I think I'm trying to
- 30:40Speaker 3: think of some ways that we could lift his spirits
- 30:43Speaker 3: and keep him involved.
- 30:46Speaker 2: I got an idea, Okay.
- 30:49Speaker 1: Get him a full DVD collection. Uh huh the Bell.
- 30:53Speaker 3: Oh that would be great. That would really help with
- 30:55Speaker 3: the screech, wouldn't it.
- 30:56Speaker 1: Yes, because I'm guessing his favorite character of all time.
- 30:59Speaker 2: Is obviously screech.
- 31:01Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 31:02Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, she says, not
- 31:07Speaker 3: meaning it.
- 31:08Speaker 2: No, I think I think that you've nailed it, and
- 31:10Speaker 2: that's gonna be the perfect way to fix.
- 31:12Speaker 1: He like screeches.
- 31:13Speaker 2: Yep, you're gonna love to.
- 31:17Speaker 1: And factor fiction.
- 31:19Speaker 2: That's right, You're welcome, Keith, get ready going to meet
- 31:22Speaker 2: your address.
- 31:24Speaker 1: So Keith, and Keith alone has a weird love for
- 31:27Speaker 1: the screech.
- 31:28Speaker 2: He really loves the screech.
- 31:29Speaker 3: And he's really I think he's really getting emotional about now.
- 31:32Speaker 3: He's only got one more. A great listener too, He's
- 31:34Speaker 3: a great listener. That's why I worry about him. I
- 31:36Speaker 3: don't want him to be upset.
- 31:37Speaker 1: We wouldn't do this for every listener. No, maybe we
- 31:39Speaker 1: should do something like Jeff.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Jeff's not getting the you know, Saved by the Bell
- 31:43Speaker 3: DVD collection.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Here's an idea. Here's an idea, and you can just
- 31:46Speaker 1: download this for free. And our gift to you, Keith,
- 31:48Speaker 1: is the idea. Okay, you just put the screech on
- 31:52Speaker 1: your phone so whenever somebody calls you.
- 31:56Speaker 2: That would scare the Jesus out of me.
- 31:58Speaker 1: Yeah, And maybe it's just one part so that you
- 32:00Speaker 1: don't get it every time and get numb to it.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Maybe it's just like, uh, you know, like the person
- 32:06Speaker 1: who calls you the twelfth most yes, and so every
- 32:10Speaker 1: once in a while you just get this little treat.
- 32:11Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great idea.
- 32:12Speaker 1: Well, screech treat.
- 32:13Speaker 2: Screech treat. Everyone means that. There you go. What have
- 32:17Speaker 2: you got?
- 32:18Speaker 1: Okay? My one last thing by One of last things
- 32:22Speaker 1: about janis Antek Kakumpo, who got injured last night in
- 32:27Speaker 1: the midst of him asking out. I think we all
- 32:31Speaker 1: knew this was coming. He wants out of Milwaukee. He
- 32:33Speaker 1: does not want to be with the Bucks anymore. He
- 32:35Speaker 1: doesn't see a championship path, and I don't think there
- 32:37Speaker 1: is one. Are not in the time. I mean, you'll
- 32:40Speaker 1: probably be too old to be great by the time
- 32:43Speaker 1: the Bucks get their stuff back together. So I do
- 32:46Speaker 1: think it's time to trade him. And I would just
- 32:48Speaker 1: like to remind people it didn't happen this offseason like
- 32:50Speaker 1: I predicted. But man, nobody wants to hear this. In Seattle.
- 32:55Speaker 1: Oklahoma City is set up so well. I mean, not
- 32:59Speaker 1: only are they twenty one in one this year, they
- 33:02Speaker 1: have the most trade capital in the entire sport. If
- 33:07Speaker 1: they wanted to add him, they would be the most
- 33:11Speaker 1: likely team to be able to have the stuff it
- 33:13Speaker 1: took to get him. Now, do you disrupt twenty one
- 33:16Speaker 1: and one defending champs and you're twenty one and one
- 33:19Speaker 1: this year, maybe you don't even want to take that risk.
- 33:22Speaker 1: You think you're gonna win without him, and you don't
- 33:23Speaker 1: need to give up your draft capital. But if anybody
- 33:27Speaker 1: or trade capital, but if anybody's got it, it's them,
- 33:30Speaker 1: And I can't even imagine how dangerous that team comes.
- 33:34Speaker 1: That'd be unbeatable. And from that standpoint, I think maybe
- 33:38Speaker 1: the NBA would actually intervene and say, no, that's anybody
- 33:43Speaker 1: but Oklahoma City. You're not sending him to Oklahoma City.
- 33:46Speaker 1: But obviously, I mean people throwing out the Knicks and
- 33:48Speaker 1: the Lakers. No, no, no, no, no, unless the whole league
- 33:52Speaker 1: is rigged. No, you're Milwaukee. You got this one asset,
- 33:57Speaker 1: and if you're going to trade it and crush the
- 33:59Speaker 1: hearts of all of your fans, you have to get
- 34:01Speaker 1: the best trade possible. And that's probably coming from one
- 34:06Speaker 1: of two sources, Okasee or San Antonio. Now, the league
- 34:11Speaker 1: would love for him to end up in San Antonio
- 34:14Speaker 1: so they can just put him and wim beyond every night.
- 34:18Speaker 1: And can you imagine how long and difficult that team
- 34:20Speaker 1: would be to play? Oh my gosh, those are the
- 34:23Speaker 1: two longest human beings in the world.
- 34:25Speaker 3: You could stretch him out, like if you lay him
- 34:27Speaker 3: out across the court they go.
- 34:28Speaker 2: End to end.
- 34:30Speaker 1: They could just keep three guys under the hoop at
- 34:32Speaker 1: the other end and just play defense with those two guys. Yeah,
- 34:36Speaker 1: but anyway, it's certainly something to monitor. They bought a
- 34:39Speaker 1: little We bought a little time because he's going to
- 34:42Speaker 1: be injured and out for it looks like two to
- 34:44Speaker 1: four weeks with his injury, but we may have seen
- 34:47Speaker 1: him play his last game as a Milwaukee Buck. Would
- 34:50Speaker 1: not surprise me if he gets traded in the next
- 34:52Speaker 1: two to four weeks. Yea, and while he's as he's
- 34:56Speaker 1: coming back from injury. All right, that'll do it for us.
- 34:59Speaker 1: We'll talk to you to mo hw at six am
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