Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Trump’s DFC Chief Ben Black and the Lingering Shadow of Jeffrey Epstein (Part 2) (6/8/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:02Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
- 0:06where he left off with the Guardian article talking about
- 0:09Ben Black. The author of this article is Kate Brown.
- 0:16Ben Black attended the Dalton School, a prestigious Upper east
- 0:20Side establishment where Epstein briefly taught math and physics in
- 0:24the seventies. He graduated in two thousand and two alongside
- 0:29many of New York's most well healed children, and went
- 0:32on to study history at the University of Pennsylvania. He
- 0:35later earned a dual master's in business and law at
- 0:38Harvard and a master's in taxation from New York University Harvard.
- 0:44Always with Harvard. In twenty eleven, Ben Black and several
- 0:49of his family members invested in Environmental Solutions Worldwide, a
- 0:53diesel emissions control company where Epstein was a six percent
- 0:57shareholder VIA's Virgin Island shell company Financial Trust. According to
- 1:02SEC filings, Ben Black and Joshua Black, one of his brothers,
- 1:06became directors of ESWW that same year. Company record show AH,
- 1:11I have no doubt that Jeffrey Epstein had nothing to
- 1:13do with it, never mind the fact that Leon Black
- 1:15has given Epstein hundreds of millions of dollars. But sure,
- 1:19nothing to see here, just another coincidence. It's not clear
- 1:24whether Ben Black was aware that Epstein was ESWW shareholder
- 1:28when he took a stake in the entity through his
- 1:31personal trust fund, though his father, Leon had encouraged Epstein
- 1:35to invest in the group a year earlier. Oh, he
- 1:37had no idea. Stop with the nonsense. Okay, not that
- 1:42big of elite. His dad knew his dad encouraged Epstein
- 1:46to invest. Is it too much for us to think
- 1:48that Ben Black knew too? Two weeks after Leon black suggestion,
- 1:54Epstein wired one million to purchase ESWW company debt augmenting
- 1:59holdings that dated back to two thousand and five. According
- 2:02to his barristern's account. Epstein, through his company, sold his
- 2:07ESWW shares to the Black Family Partner's LP, a private
- 2:11partnership that manages some of Leon Black's fourteen billion dollar
- 2:15estate in November of twenty twelve. All these ties blind
- 2:21and if this was normal circumstances, and say that you
- 2:24or I were accused of what Epstein was accused of,
- 2:27this will all be rico And I know, I know
- 2:29you're tired of hearing it. But guess what, I'm tired
- 2:33of living in a reality where it's not a Rico case.
- 2:37This is exactly what Rico was built for. Lawyers for
- 2:42Leon Black described this as a change an investment strategy
- 2:45on behalf of Epstein. Oh just it's always Epstein's fault.
- 2:49Have you noticed that too? All these people that get
- 2:51called out, all these people that had relationships with them,
- 2:54now they all want to blame Epstein. He was evil,
- 2:56he was this, he was a well was he evil
- 2:59when you got as were getting riched together? Was he
- 3:02evil when he was pressing women that you allegedly assaulted?
- 3:06And if he was, then why do you still do
- 3:08business with him? Why didn't you write him out? Why
- 3:12didn't you go to the authorities and tell them I
- 3:14know a lot more about Epstein than other people. There
- 3:17are some discrepancies in the public timeline documenting Ben Black's
- 3:20involvement with ESWW. A Senate Ethics disclosure dates his board
- 3:25term to June twenty twenty one, ten years after Black's
- 3:29role was first listed in SEC filings. A company web
- 3:33page that listed Ben Black on its board of directors
- 3:36between twenty fifteen and twenty twenty three has been taken down. Oh,
- 3:41I'm sure it has been. Got to cover those tracks.
- 3:44Got to make sure the cover up is running as
- 3:46smoothly as possible. Right. Lawyers for Leon Black did not
- 3:50answer questions about Ben Black's role on the ESWW board
- 3:55or his tenure there. ESWW did not return a request
- 3:58for comment about Black's ten with the company, and I
- 4:01doubt they will private company. Why would they? Ben Black
- 4:07said that he would resign from his position at EESWW
- 4:11upon assuming his role at Development Finance Corporation, but would
- 4:15continue to own company stock. By his mid twenties, Ben
- 4:19Black had taken a position within the natural resources group
- 4:22at his father's firm in New York, but he had
- 4:25no idea about Epstein, right, no clue that Epstein was
- 4:28a dirt bag. My dad hangs out with him, must
- 4:31be a great guy, or the flip side of that,
- 4:34your dad's scumbag too, either or Records show that Black
- 4:40was scheduled to meet Epstein on several occasions after the
- 4:43young scion returned to the city. He was first scheduled
- 4:46to meet Epstein as his father's guest in twenty twelve.
- 4:50It's not known whether the meeting went ahead. A year later,
- 4:54emails between Epstein's staff and a Google administrator reflected that
- 4:58Epstein would be joining Ben Black and his girlfriend for
- 5:01a private tour of Google's New York headquarters. Leon Black
- 5:05and crinny A Shuliac, Epstein's longtime Belarussian lover, were also
- 5:09listed as part of the six person tour. The identity
- 5:13of the six guest was redacted in Justice Department filings.
- 5:17Oh what an intricate web we weave. All these people
- 5:21are so connected, and they all knew Jeffrey Epstein a
- 5:23lot more intimately than they ever let on. And now
- 5:26that it's all coming to light, they're trying to say
- 5:29face the best way they can. But when it comes
- 5:31to these emails, they provide receipts, and all the people
- 5:35that denied being friendly with Epstein being partners with them, well,
- 5:39they were proven to be liars. Lawyers for Leon Black
- 5:43said that Ben Black did not attend the tour of
- 5:45the Google headquarters, and that a tour did not attend
- 5:48does not establish a relationship of any kind, let alone
- 5:52a close one. By September twenty thirteen, Epstein obtained Ben
- 5:56Black's contact information after a family estate planning meeting which
- 6:00both men were present. According to a memo summarizing the meeting,
- 6:04Leon said fine to set up meetings with Ben and Josh.
- 6:07Leon Black's assistant emailed Epstein's assistant. It's not clear whether
- 6:12the two men corresponded, but Epstein told a friend that
- 6:15he flew to the Hamptons to celebrate Ben Black's birthday
- 6:19his thirtieth birthday in July of twenty fourteen. Lawyers for
- 6:23Leon Black said Epstein did not attend a birthday celebration
- 6:26for Benjamin in twenty fourteen, wherever, well, somebody's lying, who
- 6:31is it? And why would Epstein lie about going to
- 6:34the party. After reviewing the email in which Epstein told
- 6:38a friend that he attended Ben Black's birthday, the lawyer
- 6:41later said that they were not aware of any email
- 6:43to Leon Black acknowledging any attendants at the party, and
- 6:47mister Black and his son have confirmed that Epstein did
- 6:50not attend whatever he may have set in emails. It's
- 6:54very well known that Epstein was prone to exaggeration, lies,
- 6:58and embellishments to try to elevate his importance with others. Oh,
- 7:02Epstein was so evil, It's well known they knew that
- 7:05about him, but they didn't know he was diddling people. Okay, sure,
- 7:10how can anyone take any of these people serious? That's
- 7:12the real question. And honestly, I'm at the point that
- 7:16the people that take this kind of shit serious, I
- 7:18don't take them serious. Sorry. If your ass is dumb
- 7:22enough to be dog walked by these people at this point,
- 7:25you deserve everything you get. Two days after Ben Black's
- 7:28birthday party, Epstein weighed in on Black's plan to buy
- 7:31and eleven and a half million dollars townhouse. The transaction
- 7:35was carefully orchestrated to minimize tax exposure. Email show Epstein
- 7:39toltally on Black's executive assistant that if Ben had questions
- 7:43after the purchase, he could call any time. People need
- 7:47to understand that was Epstein's biggest role, bundling money. That's
- 7:51what he did. Everything else was secondary. Epstein was so
- 7:55useful because he knew how to hide money. That's it.
- 7:58That's the whole story. And because he was so useful,
- 8:00they looked the other way. By the end of twenty fourteen,
- 8:07Black's parents had moved into a thirty room Italian Renaissance
- 8:10style mansion one block from Epstein's upper East Side address.
- 8:14Tensions between Leon Black and Epstein Ebden flowed over the years.
- 8:18Emails show Epstein repeatedly admonished Black for delaying personal changes
- 8:23in his family's office, Elysia management, and short changing his
- 8:27compensation for a formidable advisory task. In February twenty sixteen,
- 8:33Epstein's assistant asked Ben Black and his brother Joshua if
- 8:37they would have their portraits painted as a gift to
- 8:39their father. The brothers agreed and met Kyang No, a
- 8:43Korean painter, for a photography session. No told The Guardian
- 8:47that he received a scholarship from Epstein to study portraiture
- 8:51at the New York Academy of Art. He said the
- 8:53scholarship stipulated that he had to paint at least one
- 8:56portrait for donors. They sent me the two guys, he recalled.
- 9:00I looked their photo and then I painted it in
- 9:02my studio space. After graduating, some guy came and picked
- 9:06it up. Well, I don't blame the artist, right, I
- 9:09have no qualms with him. His job is to create art.
- 9:13That's what he did. And Jeffrey Epstein, we all know
- 9:18that he had his fingers deep in the New York
- 9:21Academy of Art. And that's another question that I've always had,
- 9:25just how deep did that go? And was the New
- 9:28York Academy of Art feeding girls directly into the belly
- 9:31of the beast, because if you listen to what Maria says,
- 9:35that's what was happening. He added that he had no
- 9:38knowledge of Epstein or the Black family at the time
- 9:41or received any money in exchange for his work. Lawyers
- 9:45for Leon Black initially said that neither Benjamin nor his
- 9:48brother Joshua had sat for a portrait commissioned by Epstein,
- 9:52and that no follow up eml suggested that a portrait
- 9:55had been painted. After reviewing a picture of the painting,
- 9:58the lawyers additionally said, as for the portrait you provided,
- 10:01it appears to be painted from a picture. Neither Ben
- 10:05nor josh Black sat for a portrait commissioned by Epstein.
- 10:08Leon Black doesn't have any portrait of Ben and josh period,
- 10:12So I guess the artist is lying. I'm gonna believe
- 10:15the artist over Leon Black. Sorry. If Epstein appreciated the
- 10:18boys help, his emails didn't convey much respect for their
- 10:22financial acumen. You have a bomb of colored string that
- 10:26your retarded children have formed, Epstein wrote to Leon in
- 10:29a detailed note about their family finances. It has to
- 10:32be carefully unwound. And that's what I said earlier. In
- 10:36Epstein's own words, called Leon Black's kids retarded, and Black
- 10:40continued to have a relationship with them. Imagine somebody telling
- 10:44you your kids are retarded. I'll show you retarded because
- 10:48you're gonna have CTE after I'm done with you. But
- 10:50Leon Black, Nah, no big deal. I got a couple
- 10:52retarded kids, haha, Jeffrey. On December thirty one, twenty fourteen,
- 10:58Epstein received an email from Saint Bart's, a Caribbean destination
- 11:02where many of the financier's friends flocked for the holidays.
- 11:06Hello Jeffrey, Yes, last night we met Black's family and
- 11:09Greek boy too. He was with a very ugly, rude girl.
- 11:14But we had a great time with the brothers. Hopefully
- 11:17we'll meet them today. They are very nice and this
- 11:20is from an undisclosed person. On New Year's Day, he
- 11:24received a second email. Tonight dinner with Ben Black and brothers.
- 11:28This is a great time and lots of fun here.
- 11:30I love it well. I wonder who that was. Were
- 11:34they girls that were being trafficked meeting with the Black brothers.
- 11:37So it looks to me like they've just been lying
- 11:40this whole time, and they're so embarrassed about their relationship
- 11:44with Epstein that they'll do whatever they can to try
- 11:46and make sure nobody knows about it. But I think
- 11:49these emails are damning, and my question is why is
- 11:53Ben Black part of the administration? His email contacts were
- 11:58among the young women gathered in same Bart's for New
- 12:01Year's where one person reported that two hundred fabulous and
- 12:04more fabulous guests had joined the Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich,
- 12:09then wife for a year in bash. Leon and Deborah
- 12:13Black were among them. A month later, Epstein received a
- 12:17missive from a woman in New York. Hello, Jeffrey, please
- 12:20help me what to answer to Ben Black? He just
- 12:23texted me, So, how does your schedule look? I have
- 12:26a few ideas, but do you have a preference? Well?
- 12:29What does that mean? Why does Jeffrey Epstein have anything
- 12:32to do with some woman hanging out with Ben Black?
- 12:36Could it be that Jeffrey Epstein was not the lone
- 12:38predator that we've heard about. Nah, that couldn't be the case, right,
- 12:45Epstein and the woman who identified herself as Cheek in
- 12:49more than one hundred emails discuss Ben's email and his
- 12:52subsequent invitation to dinner. At nine am the next morning,
- 12:56Epstein received an email with the subject line Ben Black, Hello,
- 12:59j Free. Last night I had a great time with
- 13:01Ben and he kissed me. He was behaving like a
- 13:05real gentleman. Chick references Ben Black and his family on
- 13:09at least three separate occasions in her correspondence with Epstein.
- 13:13So what role did Epstein play here? Was he matchmaking again?
- 13:18And was this one of the girls that was trafficked?
- 13:21I got questions? She first asked Epstein for help to
- 13:24get in with Leon and the family to an exclusive
- 13:27New Year's party. After he arranged her tickets to Saint
- 13:30Bart's back in New York, Cheek asked Epstein for help
- 13:34responding to blacks text messages, and then asked whether Ben
- 13:37Black would be joining her appointment with his father one
- 13:40month after they had kissed. Is Leon Bee coming tomorrow alone? No,
- 13:45bb Jeffrey, what time would you like to see me tomorrow?
- 13:48She wrote? It's not known whether the appointment went ahead. Look,
- 13:51I'm sure that I'm not the only one that thinks
- 13:53all of that needs to be explained, like what the
- 13:57hell are you people doing and why. The Black family
- 14:01lawyers describe Ben Black's relationship to Chick as a single
- 14:05private date between two consenting adults. In twenty fifteen, Benjamin
- 14:09met a woman and they went on a date and
- 14:12he treated her nicely, a fact represented in the emails,
- 14:16they said in a statement to the Guardian. They also
- 14:19said that Ben Black did not know that the woman
- 14:21would email Epstein or the content of any emails that
- 14:24may have exchanged with Epstein. The lawyers did not comment
- 14:28on records linking Ben Black to women in Saint Bart's
- 14:32The lawyers did not comment on emails referring to Leon
- 14:35Black and Chick. Like the other women in Epstein's orbit,
- 14:39Chick appeared to defer to Epstein for both personal and
- 14:42financial support. She asked for small favors like polishing a
- 14:46resume or purchasing a coffee machine, and larger ones like
- 14:50topping up her bank account when I ran dry. Epstein
- 14:53also called on Chick for favors and scolded her when
- 14:56she didn't follow through. We had planned to go to
- 14:59Paris and I he needed help on the plane, he wrote,
- 15:01after New Year's shameful, shameful. Amid their conversation, Chick appears
- 15:08to write about Ben Black with a similar blend of
- 15:10deference and awe. He is so cool and I don't
- 15:14understand what he wants from me, she wrote, Oh, I
- 15:18know what he wants. Not that difficult. Several DFC staff
- 15:22raised questions about Ben Black's background when Trump first elected
- 15:26the Wall Street scion to lead the US multi billion
- 15:29dollar lending arm, according to interviews with nearly a dozen
- 15:32former and current employees who spoke to The Guardian on
- 15:36the condition of anonymity for fear of retribution. Oh, fear
- 15:40of retribution from Trump? Come on, never, he would never
- 15:43do that. Trump's just a great guy, and you know
- 15:48he allows a lot of criticism from the people around them.
- 15:53Black has a limited track record in emerging markets. According
- 15:56to public records, his New York based private equity firm
- 16:00Fortinbras's Enterprises opened an outpost in the UAE in twenty
- 16:04twenty four, where Black helped open a branch of his
- 16:07family's office. That same year, his father, Leon was the
- 16:11subject of a Senate investigation into dealings with Epstein at
- 16:15the time. He's not qualified to do this for sure,
- 16:18A former DFC director said of Black, it does make
- 16:22you wonder, you know, why is he in that role? Nepotism.
- 16:26That's why nothing more than Donald Trump thrown as boy
- 16:28Leon Black a bone. A White House spokesperson sent an
- 16:32unsolicited email to the Guardian defending Black's fitness to lead
- 16:36America's Deal Team, an agency that has been rebranded under Trump,
- 16:41and Leon Black's lawyers sent a legal letter to the Guardian.
- 16:44It's absurd to imply that Benjamin, who has law and
- 16:47business degrees from Harvard and a master's in taxation from
- 16:50New York University School of Law, is somehow underqualified to
- 16:54run the DFC or only got the position based on
- 16:57his father's connections to mister Trump. How many other people
- 17:01have those same qualifications. So what may bend Black so special?
- 17:05Pretty simple question. When the Department of Justice released portions
- 17:09of Epstein's correspondence in December twenty twenty five, a handful
- 17:13of DFC employees uncover records of their boss and the
- 17:16files and their concerns changed. Initially, people were sharing Epstein's
- 17:21comments and private group chats, particularly Epstein's criticism of the
- 17:25Black Children's financial skills. One former staff member said, people
- 17:30were like eye roll. The guy running the world's largest
- 17:32bilateral bank apparently can't manage money. The person said, this
- 17:37is such a joke. A few weeks later, staff discovered
- 17:40chicks email to Epstein describing her date with Ben and
- 17:43the chatter largely stopped. People just wanted to put blinders on,
- 17:49a former staff member said, summarising a series of their
- 17:52conversations with current employees. Now, they said, morale is low
- 17:56and people are afraid to speak out. Everybody's just looking
- 17:59out for their jobs. Well, that's usually what happens. Nobody
- 18:03wants to come forward because they know the deal. If
- 18:06they come forward, then Trump and his foot soldiers are
- 18:09going to come after you, and as we've seen recently,
- 18:13that is not a good ideal when it comes to
- 18:14your career. So look, let's be clear. There's no allegation
- 18:18that Ben Black did anything criminal, none at all. The
- 18:21problem is his father is somebody that was deeply entrenched
- 18:25and deeply tied to Jeffrey Epstein, and considering where the
- 18:28investigation is and that his father is a target of
- 18:31the investigation or should be, you would think that Ben
- 18:34Black wouldn't be in the administration, but unfortunately, in this
- 18:38bizarre reality that we find ourselves in, up is down
- 18:42and down is up and Epstein adjacent. Well, that's acceptable,
- 18:47all right, folks. That's gonna do it for this one.
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