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One Battle for Supporting Actress: Aunt Gladys vs. Perfidia — Buddy & Brandon Break It Down · Yeah Buddy! Podcast

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Every episode, I try to bring some of my friends in the entertainment business, whether it
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be an actor, filmmaker, comedian, we just sit down, chop it up, see what we got going
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on in the business.
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This episode, we are continuing the One Buddy After Another journey as we follow one battle
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after another through this awards season.
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This episode, we're going to take a deep dive into the best supporting actress nominees
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for the Academy Awards, but we can't do that without our co-host, Mr. Brandon Larson,
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in the building to give us the rundown.
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He's our resident film expertise over at the Yeah Buddy Podcast.
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Brandon, man, how you doing, bro?
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I'm doing awesome, Buddy.
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How are you?
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It's always a pleasure doing this podcast with you.
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Thank you, man.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for having me.
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Thank you, bro.
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I'm excited to get into this.
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We only have the best supporting actresses to talk about.
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That's only because, unfortunately, Chase Infinity was, I would say, snubbed for a lead
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actress nomination for this year Academy Awards.
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We're not going to dive too much into the lead actress category.
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That way, if anybody was wondering why we're not doing that, that's why we're not talking
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too much about it.
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We already have pretty much an agreement that the lead actress winner is going to be the
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Buckley lady from Hamnet.
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Yeah, Jessie Buckley is going to take it down.
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There's no one anywhere near what she was able to do in Hamnet.
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Although I feel that Chase Infinity was snubbed, I think she did an incredible job.
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In one battle after another for this being her first breakout film.
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I mean, what a way to start, right, buddy?
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But on the flip side of that, we got a tight competition here.
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This is neck and neck.
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Every single supporting actress is well deserving here.
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I'd like to go ahead and list them off for you.
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Yeah, we got Amy Madigan for Weapons.
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Tiana Taylor, one battle after another.
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We've got Inga Ibstadter-Lejos for Sentimental Value.
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We've got Wunmi Masaku for Sinners.
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We've got Elle Fanning for Sentimental Value.
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So you've got two actresses from Sentimental Value.
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I mean, wow, that's fantastic.
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Yeah, that's interesting because you never really heard of Sentimental Value
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at the Golden Globes, but then after that you didn't really hear too much about it.
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So it's interesting to see them have two nominees in the supporting actress race.
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Absolutely, so I guess let's just go down right one by one here.
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Let's start with Amy Madigan with Weapons.
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Did you check out Weapons at all?
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Did you see her performance in that?
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I've seen clips of it.
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I'm not too big on horror movies and stuff like that.
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It takes a lot for me to get in and watch horror movies.
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Especially when you're talking about witchcraft and all that type of stuff.
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Oh yeah.
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But I did see the movie, but I didn't see her performance.
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So performance-wise, I'd definitely say she's worthy.
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And like I said, it was interesting this year to see just the Oscars in general
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how supportive they've been of the horror genre this year.
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So with Amy Madigan getting nominated, that's definitely worthy and not a surprise at all.
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Yeah, I watched the whole film, buddy.
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I like horror, and I thought she did a fantastic job.
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This was an iconic role.
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This is something that when you think of Amy Madigan,
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you're going to think of Gladys, who she played in this movie.
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And people this year at Halloween were dressing up like her.
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I mean, this is iconic, buddy.
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This is an outstanding, her best work.
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Now she's been in the game for a long time.
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Her last Oscar nomination was back in 1986.
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That's like 40 years ago, man.
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She's been in the game a long time.
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So this is her second nomination here.
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And what I remember her from was Uncle Buck with John Candy,
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which is a really funny film if you haven't seen that.
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She has a small part in that, but it's memorable.
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And then Field of Dreams about baseball.
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That's huge.
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And so she played the wife of Kevin Cosner's character in that movie.
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So I've been watching her, and I wanted to mention in 1986,
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she was nominated for Twice in a Lifetime.
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So again, this performance she did this past year
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to get this nomination was absolutely fantastic.
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I was scared.
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And I don't scare easily, but her character freaked me out.
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It was like if I met this woman in real life,
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I'm like running.
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I'm running.
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And literally, there's like a funny run.
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I can't do it on camera.
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But it's like...
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It's like the Naruto run.
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I know what you're talking about.
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I know the run that you're talking about.
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Or just when she's running away from the kids and stuff like that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So anyway, she carried this movie for me.
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She made this movie Weapons what it was.
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Without her, this movie would not have been as good.
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It was a good film, but man, did she have to carry this movie.
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And any scene that she was in,
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I was glued, literally glued to the television.
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Because I watched it on my TV.
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Yeah, I was reading or watching an interview
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where she was talking about...
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The director basically gave her a choice
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when it came to creating the character.
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They're like, you can either be like
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this type of witch character,
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which was what she played,
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or you can lead it to you're like an alien
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and you take over this person's body.
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You kind of choose.
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I'm assuming she went with the right choice
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of choosing the witch.
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But I'd definitely like to hear
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more about her backstory
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as far as how she chose
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to create that character.
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And how deeply grounded she was
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in this horror aspect
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is not easy to do.
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So I really do think she's a frontrunner here.
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For the Oscar?
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Yes, absolutely.
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I really think that
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she is a contender here.
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And she's not one that
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you can just eliminate easily.
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Because again,
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this role is an iconic role.
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You're going to see people
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dressing up like this person
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at Halloween.
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This is Michael Myers, man.
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This is GLaDOS.
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And so I think
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the way she looked, the makeup,
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the look, everything about her,
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the way she spoke,
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the way she carried herself.
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There's a scene, I don't want to give it away,
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but she asked for a bowl of water.
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And usually you say,
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I want a glass of water, right buddy?
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You don't say you want a bowl of water.
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And I was like,
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what is going on with this lady?
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And so everything that she did
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was weird,
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weirdly scary
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and I can't get this
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woman out of my mind
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the way she looks.
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She gives me nightmares, buddy.
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She gives me nightmares.
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That's why I said I stay away from that type of movies.
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Oh, man.
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Well, you
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did the right thing because
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I'm like,
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she haunts me in my
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dreams now, watching this movie.
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But no,
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let's move on.
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No, let's talk about this a little bit more
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because you surprised me
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with
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being the front runner
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because she
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did win the SAG award
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for Best Supporting Actress
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but I haven't really seen her name too much
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around in the
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award season
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buzz
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as far as being
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a major contender.
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Being nominated, of course,
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yeah, but being a contender
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as far as taking home the trophy?
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Yeah, I think
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I really do because
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again, when you create
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a character that is so
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iconic where
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if you watch this
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movie, I
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feel like the level
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of detail that she
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put into this character
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is unforgettable.
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It's chilling, it's unlike
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anything I've seen
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in a long time and
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that's when I'm comparing her
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with these other actresses,
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I have to give her
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a lot of weight here
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because I don't think that anyone
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could have played this part
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as well as she did
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and she's not an actress
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where you're thinking, oh yeah,
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Amy Madigan, you know her,
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right? This is
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something where she's
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sort of like Delroy, right?
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Delroy's been in the game a long time but people
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forgot about him and I think
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this is the same case for Amy
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is that we've forgotten about how
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good she is and she's
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reminding us how good
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she is in this performance.
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Just like Delroy.
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Delroy's been in the game for just as
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long as she has and
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I don't think you can discount
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the work that she's done in this movie
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where she is
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like comparison to
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all the other actors in this movie
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she just
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absolutely steals the show
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in this movie.
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Like you literally
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could have another
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movie about this
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and have her keep playing the
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character over and over
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and over again.
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That's how good it was.
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Okay.
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I'm not trying to say
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that she's
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going to win. I think she
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has a very strong chance
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to win and
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I think she's a front runner
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with someone else when we get to her.
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I'll let you know who but
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right now she is one of the
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front runners to me.
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Okay. Let's save
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Tiana for last.
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Alright. So let's talk about
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Inge Ibstadter
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Laeos
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who's Norwegian.
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She did a really
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excellent job in Sentimental Value
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plays the sister.
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A really lovely part
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supporting the main
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actress in this movie
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Renate Reinsvej.
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What did you think of her
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performance in Sentimental Value?
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I know you saw the film
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She was the one that played the daughter, right?
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She was the one that played the daughter.
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The real life daughter.
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Yeah.
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So the
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Stellan Skarsgård's
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character, the film director
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has got two daughters.
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Okay. And so the
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eldest is the main
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actress, the lead
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actress who also got nominated
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Renate Reinsvej.
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And then Inge, she plays
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the sister.
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And so most of her scenes
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are with the main actress.
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And so
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they have like a couple emotional
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scenes where they're
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on
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it's like an intimate scene where
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they're having a
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heart to heart about their father,
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about their past.
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And it's just really touching.
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They're at the table talking.
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Just really simple
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but family type
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conversations that you might
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have in your own family
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where it's about a family dynamic
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of things not going so well.
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And I felt like she really
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supported
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the main actress in this
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movie really well. I think
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that she gave a
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very natural,
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heartfelt performance here
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and she held her own
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with the lead
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actors in this movie.
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Yeah, with
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sentimental value, that wasn't
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a movie where
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I
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was
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super caught up into it.
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I definitely think we had talked about
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just how they was able to
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capture the
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relationships between
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working in the film industry and
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trying to balance
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your real life relationships, your
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personal relationships with your family
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or whatever.
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So from that aspect, like I said, there was nothing
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that I took too much away from sentimental
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value outside of that.
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So I could see
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where the nominations
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come from, like from the Academy standpoint
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because they could look at
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all of these characters, like
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the two characters that are nominated for
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supporting actress, lead actress,
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Stella Skargaard for supporting
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actor, whatever. I could see how they could look at
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those characters
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and
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relate to all those characters
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to where they could say,
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I know somebody
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like this person, to where
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now those performances are
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award nominated
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but I don't really see them
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going too much
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after that. I don't see them
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winning.
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I see them getting the nominations
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because those characters
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are characters
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that the people who are voting can relate to
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but I don't really see them
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being front runners
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for anything. They're just
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very good relatable characters.
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And I agree wholeheartedly
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here and it's not to take away
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from her performance but this is not
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an Oscar winning performance.
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However, I've got to
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tell you, this is going to help
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her career. Getting this nomination
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will help.
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I mean, this is her first nomination.
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It's really her first
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big part that we've seen
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in a global standpoint.
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Now, picture this.
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You're coming from Norway, right?
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So you're just now getting
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known. This is putting her on the map
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to where she's going to be
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considered now for other films.
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She's on people's
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radar and now people
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are going to start to think about her
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when they're writing scripts
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and so I think
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that she is a really great
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actress and she's
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going to play certain parts,
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right? We're all typecasted as
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actors.
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We all look a certain way,
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talk a certain way, and that's
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the game.
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However, I think that she is
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someone that is
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so talented
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and after seeing her performance
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I look forward to seeing
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what she does next.
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You think she is?
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As far as
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coming from another country, did she make that
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move to the United States or just keep
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making these foreign films?
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I think she's going to do both
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but what I'm saying is that
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this put her on the map
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because I didn't know
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her before this movie
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and so her getting this
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nomination is
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critical for her acting
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career because it's only
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going to help get
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her those next lead
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parts that she might be looking
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for to carry a movie
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but she really supported
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this film and she did an excellent
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job.
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So her compared to Elle Fanning,
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who do you see? If you had to choose
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one of them, well let's go to Elle Fanning's character
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because she plays an actress
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in the movie.
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How do you see her role compared
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to the other actresses role being nominated
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for the same movie?
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So Elle is interesting
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because I'm more familiar
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with Dakota Fanning.
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We all know
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Dakota Fanning, she was in
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that Denzel movie
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was it Man on Fire?
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Do you remember that one?
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So
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Elle, this is a breakout
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role for her too
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because I was taking a look at her
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and the movie that I remember
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Elle from back in
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the day was Super 8. It was kind
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of like sci-fi
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if you saw it.
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And
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so this is her first
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nomination and in terms of her
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performance in this movie
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I thought she was memorable
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and she
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played an American which worked
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in the movie because she is an American
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and so
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you got to hear
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most of the movie is in Norwegian
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and so you're reading
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subtitles but her character
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primarily speaks in English
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and so that prompts
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the other characters in the movie to also
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speak English
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and so I felt
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that Elle is going to
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probably do
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more after this
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in America just because
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she's got that
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Fannie name.
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She's got the name, the last name
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Dakota
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put her
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we could say that because
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a lot of this is
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family like if you're
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Tom Hanks and
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you're Tom Hanks
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I see it similar to
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if you're talking about
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if you were to take
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the Olsen twins
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the Olsen twins is like Dakota
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but you have Elizabeth Olsen is
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probably a way better
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actress
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than the Olsen twins but the Olsen twins
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are just more famous so she got that
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exposure but
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it wouldn't be too much
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of an argument or a debate
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to say that Elizabeth Olsen is
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the more talented if you're talking about
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just acting skill wise
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is the more talented
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of the sisters and you could almost
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say that both of the Fannie
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sisters are both talented but Dakota
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is famous but
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Dakota was also
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nominated for an Academy Award though
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at like a super
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young age
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Yeah you make great points
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here buddy I think when you
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stop and look at it
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Elle's not going away
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she is a really great
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actress and this was a meaty
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part for her she really
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supported the film she deserved
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an Oscar nomination
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here I don't think
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that she's going to win
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compared to these other
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actresses
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that we've got here
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but certainly she's got
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a bright future
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she's going to be one to look out for
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probably more so than Inga
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at least here in the States
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we're going to get to see Elle a little
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bit more I think just because
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if you live here
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it's probably going to be
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easier because you're going to have
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I feel like you must
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have a harder road
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to Hollywood if you're coming from
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another country wouldn't you agree
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because if you're in the U.S.
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I think to
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some degree just because you can understand
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how the business side of things work
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over here
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but
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like let's say overseas
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they're trained to have careers
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in not just
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movies but we're talking about just acting
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in general whether it be for the stage
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movies
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films like that is
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a legit
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career not to say that it isn't up here
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but up here I think
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as far as American
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actors go
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it's become more about
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just being on TV
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and being famous rather than
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actually having a career
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so
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it's a little bit both and a lot of
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movies are going overseas now
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so these
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how back in the days how we used to have those
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you know those day player
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roles you just get one line or
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whatever something that might help break you up
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to the next thing if those roles are going
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if they're filming these productions
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in London, overseas,
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Toronto, you know just these
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foreign countries then those
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bit parts that
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as American actors
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we used to depend on to get like our SAG
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eligibility to get our SAG membership
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or you know just something to get our residuals
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and for our residuals
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those parts
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are going overseas too as well
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so it's kind of shifted
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with the territory of the business almost
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I agree
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with everything you're saying buddy
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my biggest point was
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that sentimental value as
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a film came from Norway
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and we wouldn't have seen these
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actresses nominated if it
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weren't for how good this film
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was as a whole
23:28
you know Joachim
23:30
Trier directed it, it was a
23:32
fantastic film, it's one of the best
23:34
picture nominees
23:36
that's how good it is
23:38
I think it's going to win best
23:40
foreign film
23:42
by far it was the best foreign film
23:44
of the year hands down
23:46
if it doesn't win for best foreign
23:48
picture I just
23:50
don't agree
23:52
I think that it should win
23:54
because it was an extremely
23:56
well done film and you had
23:58
extremely
24:00
fantastic performances all around
24:02
from every single actor in this
24:04
movie
24:08
oh yeah yeah
24:10
nothing to disagree with you on that
24:12
you're totally right
24:14
with that
24:16
not too much of a dig
24:18
it's a pretty clean
24:20
cookie cutter type of film as far as
24:22
like
24:24
breaking it down from an artistic standpoint
24:26
it's pretty
24:28
easy to break down
24:30
nothing too complicated
24:32
about it and like I said it's the type
24:34
of film that when you just break it down
24:36
from the aspect of looking at family
24:38
family values
24:40
that's where it also
24:42
becomes relatable too to where it's able
24:44
to transcend from being a
24:46
foreign film to being
24:48
a film that anybody could
24:50
watch
24:52
outside of the
24:54
subtitles
24:56
I think it's one of those films too that you
24:58
can study on multiple
25:00
levels for
25:02
filmmaking as well as acting
25:04
if you want a master class
25:06
at how good
25:08
you need to be as an
25:10
actor every single
25:12
person in this movie was
25:14
like they were real people I was
25:16
watching something real
25:18
when I saw this movie so
25:20
I'm definitely going
25:22
to look at the techniques that they
25:24
all use to better
25:26
myself and I encourage every
25:28
actor to when you're looking
25:30
at a movie figure
25:32
out why how is
25:34
it that this actor is so good
25:36
why is it that their
25:38
presence is captivating you right
25:40
now because we all want to improve
25:42
is it the stillness
25:44
because stillness reads on
25:46
camera is it that emotional
25:48
connection it's
25:50
got to be all of the above right
25:52
like you've got to be connected
25:54
you've got to know your character backwards
25:56
and forwards you've got to be centered
25:58
grounded in the breath
26:00
and all these things in the moment
26:02
when you're delivering your lines
26:04
as if you're
26:06
saying it for the first time
26:08
and I felt in this
26:10
movie it was like
26:12
everything
26:14
acting related
26:16
was so profound
26:18
and excellent like
26:20
excellent level acting
26:22
from everybody
26:24
and I think that's what you
26:26
get I guess
26:28
to my point that's what you kind of get
26:30
now from these
26:32
foreign films these actors
26:34
that are coming from these other countries
26:36
just
26:38
they're kind of setting the new
26:40
tone for what it is to
26:42
be to make a professional film
26:44
to be a professional actor just to
26:46
really bring home drive home
26:48
these professional performances
26:52
you know Denzel talks about
26:54
how important it is to start
26:56
in the theater if you're an actor
26:58
and I agree
27:00
I started out in the theater and I
27:02
highly recommend it because you
27:04
only get one take and so
27:06
imagine if you're casting
27:08
a theater actor
27:10
and they're able to transition
27:12
to film acting fairly
27:14
simple with the right techniques
27:16
they can pull it back
27:18
I think when you're
27:20
giving a grounded
27:22
performance and wouldn't
27:24
you rather have an actor on
27:26
set that can do it in one
27:28
take
27:30
yeah
27:32
at least an actor that can do
27:34
a different take each take
27:36
something to give me some sort of variety
27:38
exactly
27:40
yeah
27:42
and I think that that's
27:44
what Elle Fanning did here was
27:46
she was emotionally
27:48
grounded in her performance
27:50
and she allowed
27:52
herself to be vulnerable
27:54
as well as Inge
27:56
who we talked about
27:58
both of those actresses
28:00
were so
28:02
emotionally available to
28:04
their scene partner that
28:06
I believed
28:08
the pain and
28:10
the journey of these
28:12
characters and what they were going
28:14
through in the story
28:16
and I just loved the
28:18
language
28:20
no Norwegian
28:22
but what they were saying
28:24
was like wow
28:26
I believe it I believe what they're
28:28
saying
28:34
the next one we got
28:36
to talk about is
28:38
Wunmi Masaku
28:40
Wunmi
28:42
yes and
28:44
we are both on team Sinners
28:46
yeah we both
28:48
we both jump ship from one battle
28:50
yeah that's why I wanted to talk about
28:52
Tiana Lass
28:54
we'll talk about it
28:56
I think she had a lot of steam going into
28:58
the beginning of it
29:00
but we'll talk about
29:02
that when we get to Tiana but yeah Wunmi
29:04
yeah
29:06
and she is a front runner
29:08
buddy she
29:10
is a contender
29:12
she can take it down
29:14
I think
29:16
I mean I think it's
29:18
between her and Amy
29:20
that's I think that's what it's
29:22
right now it's neck and neck
29:24
and Tiana's
29:26
right there but I think these two other
29:28
ladies wow
29:30
yeah
29:32
extremely believable
29:34
from Wunmi yeah
29:36
this was unforgettable
29:38
for me I don't
29:40
think that I mean this
29:42
is something that I can't forget
29:44
the movie as a whole I loved
29:46
as you know
29:48
saw it again in Oakland it was
29:50
fantastic in 70
29:52
millimeter
29:56
and I felt
29:58
like her performance was
30:00
such at a high level that
30:02
every actor in Sinners
30:04
was phenomenal
30:06
there wasn't an actor who
30:08
didn't deserve
30:10
an Oscar nomination for
30:12
performance and I just
30:14
think it goes to the casting
30:16
that the casting
30:18
was fantastic
30:20
for this movie I think
30:22
you know everything about the movie
30:24
but let's specifically talk
30:26
about her
30:28
this is her first nomination
30:30
every single actress
30:32
it's their first
30:34
nomination except for
30:36
Amy I think that's
30:38
good to note that
30:40
this is a breakout
30:42
role for me
30:44
the other
30:46
movie that I
30:48
remember Wunmi from is
30:50
Deadpool and Wolverine I don't
30:52
know if you checked that out but she was in
30:54
that
30:56
she was one of the TVA
30:58
agents
31:00
in Deadpool
31:02
and Wolverine but Wunmi
31:04
I think yeah man
31:06
the thing that
31:08
I like about
31:10
her
31:12
I want her to be the
31:14
front runner what it's going to get down to
31:16
with the actresses the nitty gritty of it
31:18
I think is the supporting actresses
31:20
is going to be
31:22
um
31:24
how much did they
31:26
support the film
31:28
you know like when you look at
31:30
like Amy Madigan being
31:32
the um
31:34
you know she's the person
31:36
Amy Madigan could have just as easily
31:38
been nominated for the best lead actress if they
31:40
chose to put her in that category
31:42
you know what I'm saying and that's just where it comes down
31:44
to smart campaigning where
31:46
they just look at where
31:48
she had a better
31:50
chance and this goes back to Warner
31:52
Brothers just having a whole plethora
31:54
of movies because Weapons is another Warner
31:56
Brothers movie so they're like
31:58
we're just trying to get
32:00
something in there it's very interesting
32:02
to see how they chose to nominate
32:04
Amy Madigan for supporting actress
32:06
um
32:08
um
32:10
as opposed to you know being the lead
32:12
because I mean
32:14
they could have they could have made her the lead
32:16
they could have
32:18
well it gives her leverage
32:20
though buddy it gives Amy more
32:22
leverage here and that's why I think she's
32:24
going to take it down
32:26
but I think Wunmi with
32:28
the success of Sinners
32:30
I think that because
32:32
Sinners is I
32:34
mean I think I'm going to just
32:36
prediction right here prediction buddy
32:38
I think Sinners
32:40
is going to break the record
32:42
for most Oscar
32:44
wins ever
32:46
yeah ever
32:48
I think it's going to be a tough race
32:50
12
32:52
you think it's going to take down 12
32:54
12 Oscars it's going to be a tough race I'd love to
32:56
see that I'd love to see that it's
32:58
going to be a tough race because
33:00
this is the first award season especially
33:02
we're talking about with the with the supporting actress
33:04
category where
33:06
usually
33:08
every award show leading up to it
33:10
you know you could kind of tell like who's the
33:12
front runner or whatever but every single
33:14
award ceremony is kind of
33:16
awarded a different actress to where it's
33:18
kind of up in the air with it because I
33:20
don't even know if let's hear
33:22
it Amy Madigan was she
33:24
she wasn't so Wunmi just
33:26
won the Baptist for best supporting
33:28
actress that Amy just won the
33:30
the Actors Award for best supporting
33:32
actress Tiana won the
33:34
Golden Globe for best supporting actress
33:36
uh
33:40
it's just it's just such a toss up
33:42
man it's such a toss up and that's
33:44
what make and that's what makes this category
33:46
so hard because Wunmi could
33:48
take it down like she
33:50
is a contender here and she's
33:52
a heavy hitter because
33:54
of everybody in
33:56
centers everybody in centers
33:58
was fantastic buddy
34:00
like there wasn't a bad performance
34:02
that I got did you
34:04
did you see any
34:06
buddies
34:08
and that's almost where you kind of
34:10
that's almost where they could kind of look at it
34:12
and be like because everybody did such a good
34:14
job
34:16
that's where I could see where you say
34:18
with Amy Madigan be the front
34:20
runner because with everybody
34:22
does such a good job how
34:24
it's easy for the overall
34:26
movie to stand out but now when you're talking about
34:28
the individual performance
34:30
it's so easy to
34:32
to overlook a great performance
34:34
when everybody brought their A game
34:36
and that's what makes
34:38
this tough for me is like
34:40
Amy Madigan was by
34:42
far the best actor in this
34:44
movie weapons like there
34:46
was nobody that was close
34:48
to what she did
34:50
like and I'm not trying to put down the film
34:52
the film was interesting and
34:54
scary and all that but
34:56
if I had to talk from an acting
34:58
standpoint who was the most
35:00
believable it was her and
35:02
she carried that movie this movie would
35:04
not be anything
35:06
what it is without the
35:08
level of specificity
35:10
and
35:12
just interesting choices
35:14
and frightening
35:16
like I was freaked out buddy
35:18
like if you watch this movie you're gonna
35:20
know what I'm talking about like
35:22
and if you've seen weapons
35:24
definitely this is not for your
35:26
kids because
35:28
it is scary
35:30
like if I have
35:32
nightmares you're gonna have nightmares
35:34
but with Wound Me
35:36
this was a believable performance
35:38
buddy this is a
35:40
performance that's gonna go
35:42
down in history for me
35:44
she was one of the more grounded characters
35:46
in the movie
35:48
she was one of the more grounded ones
35:50
she was the one that kind of knew everything
35:52
she was the one that was kind of explaining to the audience
35:54
everything that was going on
35:56
so that way nobody's kind of
35:58
kind of you know lost
36:00
because you kind of need that type of character that
36:02
um
36:04
subliminally is tell
36:06
the audience
36:08
what's going on in the movie so the audience
36:10
doesn't feel lost and so that's where I feel like
36:12
she becomes the most relatable character
36:14
you can even kind of tell like what her character
36:16
everybody see the movie but when her character
36:18
passes away or whatever
36:20
um now everything is
36:22
kind of lost everything kind of blows up everything is
36:24
you know what I'm saying it's up for
36:26
grabs kind of
36:28
kind of aspect and she
36:30
also speaks to the importance of
36:32
what black women mean to black culture
36:34
you know um just the importance
36:36
to how
36:38
important they are to how much
36:40
a strong black woman is
36:42
to a strong black
36:44
man you know
36:46
uh there's a reason why
36:48
there's a reason
36:50
why smoke lasted longer than stack
36:52
you know
36:54
what I'm saying
36:56
but piggybacking off
36:58
what you're saying there buddy
37:00
is it the chemistry
37:02
that Wunmi
37:04
and Michael B had was
37:06
so believable
37:08
I believed that they had
37:10
a kid you know I
37:12
believe that they lost their child
37:14
and I'm sorry if
37:16
we're spoiling it for those who
37:18
haven't checked out Sinners
37:20
but um
37:22
I just have to make reference to that
37:24
because it's something that happens
37:26
to the character and
37:28
that's not an easy thing to play
37:30
that's not an easy thing
37:32
to play uh
37:34
losing your child and then
37:36
also still
37:38
loving uh your
37:40
you know
37:42
your significant other if whether
37:44
you broke up or not it kind of
37:46
makes it feel like they're
37:48
are they together or are they not together
37:50
well they're together
37:52
right buddy
37:54
so they clearly still love each
37:56
other and uh you can see
37:58
that and you can feel
38:00
the love the love feels real
38:02
in the movie and then at the end
38:04
like you say that heartbreaking moment
38:06
where it's like if this happens
38:08
you need to take me out
38:10
take me out
38:12
right I don't want to be
38:14
a vampire
38:16
so
38:18
like that whole moment
38:20
for me was outstanding
38:22
and that that that's what's
38:24
great about this is that
38:26
that's what makes this so tough because
38:28
every single supporting actress
38:30
in this category they all
38:32
had one of those moments that you could say
38:34
that's why they're
38:36
nominated
38:38
yeah
38:40
so let's go with um
38:42
uh tiana taylor cause
38:44
tiana taylor has to be well this is what we're all about
38:46
you know one battle after another
38:48
and tiana taylor she was
38:50
at the very beginning
38:52
just like I always say with timothy chalamet
38:54
was the front
38:56
runner for the best
38:58
supporting actress
39:00
uh oscar
39:02
but as we can see through this
39:04
whole award season has gone on
39:06
our opinions have changed a little bit
39:08
which of course is going to
39:10
happen um but
39:12
let's kind of speak it to what
39:14
it was that we first saw with
39:16
with um with tiana taylor
39:18
that
39:20
made her the front runner and it's
39:22
nothing that she has done
39:24
wrong to make us change our opinion
39:26
it's more so just now that we're getting down to the
39:28
nitty gritty of it all these
39:30
other performances are standing
39:32
out and where I feel
39:34
that it like I said
39:36
it's coming down to is
39:38
being the supporting actress how much
39:40
did you really support the film
39:42
and this is where
39:44
um camera time
39:46
will come into play
39:48
and how much camera time she really had
39:50
on film to make that sort of
39:52
impact her character was a very
39:54
impactful character in the film
39:56
but we just didn't get too much of her
39:58
yeah and
40:00
the thing is is with tiana
40:02
for me what
40:04
I liked about her was how
40:06
how much risks
40:08
that she took in her performance
40:10
she took a lot of risks
40:12
and I don't know that people fully
40:14
understand the level
40:16
of detail that she put
40:18
into this role buddy so
40:20
I'm only going to lift her up and speak
40:22
positive things about this performance
40:24
because it was so believable
40:26
for me and why
40:28
and why I wanted her to win
40:30
and and you know
40:32
I was glad that she won
40:34
the Golden Globe because I felt that
40:36
she earned it
40:38
you know and and she earned this
40:40
nomination buddy for her
40:42
specificity
40:44
and she was
40:46
magnetic on screen every
40:48
time that she was on screen whether
40:50
it was not a long time
40:52
it was magnetic it there was
40:54
something about her energy that
40:56
she was able to
40:58
you know captivate me
41:00
where I could not take my
41:02
eyes off of her and what she
41:04
was doing everything she was
41:06
doing for me was solid
41:08
fantastic
41:10
I haven't seen a performance like this
41:12
in a long time where I can say
41:14
yeah maybe I do
41:16
want to see perfidia
41:18
and see her whole life story
41:20
in a movie I saw
41:22
that that she'd like to
41:24
maybe do that if
41:26
if the opportunity came out
41:28
I don't think Thomas Davis is doing
41:30
that I mean that'd be great but I don't think
41:32
it took him too long to get this movie
41:34
done he's all like nah we
41:36
cool boo maybe he'll produce something
41:38
maybe he'll produce something for her
41:40
but directing I don't know
41:42
about that but he might produce something for her
41:44
correct and but
41:46
I like what she said and
41:48
I did pick up on these tidbits
41:50
when I watched the movie that she
41:52
was having postpartum and that's
41:54
why Leo's character had to take
41:56
care of the baby because she was having
41:58
some postpartum
42:00
depression and I felt
42:02
like that that I got
42:04
that when I watched the movie
42:06
and then
42:08
also that
42:10
at the end of the movie that
42:12
that letter
42:14
to the daughter
42:16
was so touching
42:18
right like that
42:20
voiceover that she does
42:22
because I believe it was a voiceover
42:24
correct me if I'm wrong but we
42:26
hear her voice
42:28
again and
42:30
so but
42:32
her performance was in
42:34
the beginning of the movie
42:36
with all
42:38
the revolutionary stuff going
42:40
on in the movie and
42:42
you felt like this level of like
42:44
she's a badass right like she
42:46
she's a badass in this movie
42:48
is she not yeah no yeah
42:50
most definitely and
42:52
so for me it's like
42:54
if if I'm
42:56
with a gal like that like
42:58
okay yeah I'm gonna feel safe
43:00
you know like
43:02
yeah but
43:04
at any event
43:06
she I really
43:08
loved her character I loved
43:10
all of her choices and
43:12
I felt like she did the level
43:14
of a work that you're supposed to
43:16
and she was so specific
43:18
in the way she made her choices
43:20
and I think that that's
43:22
what made her a personal favorite
43:24
for me was I could see
43:26
the work as an
43:28
actor and appreciate
43:30
her work
43:32
yeah and
43:34
she was in fact if
43:36
we're saying who's better than who
43:38
she edges
43:40
out to these other actresses
43:42
for me to to put her
43:44
in the category of
43:46
me and Amy I have
43:48
to put her in that category
43:50
buddy that that she's neck and neck
43:52
with other these other actresses
43:54
yeah yeah
43:56
and the one thing that I will also take away from
43:58
with Tiana she
44:00
probably because I know we talked about this
44:02
being Chase Affinity's first big role
44:04
but
44:06
Tiana probably had the
44:08
most pressure out of everybody else
44:10
because she
44:12
I want to say the most famous
44:14
but she's probably the
44:16
most popular
44:18
person like right now
44:20
out of anybody that was in that movie she's probably the
44:22
most popular and
44:24
she had the most to prove from the
44:26
standpoint of the fact that the things that she
44:28
was known for
44:30
had nothing to
44:32
do with acting or her acting
44:34
abilities yeah she had done some acting
44:36
projects before you know Tyler
44:38
Perry but
44:40
there's a big difference
44:42
between doing a Tyler Perry movie
44:44
and then being in a movie
44:46
Leonardo DiCaprio and so
44:48
with everything that she's been known for like doing the
44:50
reality TV show the
44:52
music all this type of stuff
44:54
she actually had the
44:56
most pressure
44:58
out of all these
45:00
other nominees
45:02
to actually
45:04
put forth the performance and do
45:06
what do what she did
45:08
when she knocked it out the park
45:10
oh absolutely
45:12
and this is only going to continue
45:14
to help her move forward in
45:16
her acting career we're going to see more
45:18
from Tiana I think she's
45:20
going to be nominated again
45:22
like who
45:24
does she remind you in terms of
45:26
another actress that you can think
45:28
of is she
45:30
the next Angela
45:32
Bassett like who do you think
45:34
who do you think
45:36
nobody's touching
45:38
Angela Bassett's greatness
45:40
nobody
45:42
you gotta
45:44
no we can't
45:46
I love Tiana but we can't
45:48
Angela Bassett
45:50
is on a whole
45:52
other level as far
45:54
as the input she's done something from
45:56
every generation
45:58
she has
46:00
put forth
46:02
and we're just going to get on Angela Bassett for a second
46:04
she has put forth something
46:06
to every generation
46:08
she's done something to
46:10
empower
46:12
black women or put black women
46:14
on that spotlight whether you're talking about
46:16
the 80 like whatever she did
46:18
the Tina Ike
46:20
a Tina Turner movie you know what I'm saying
46:22
fantastic
46:24
or if you're talking about the late
46:26
90s or whatever which you know Stella
46:28
got her groove back or way to
46:30
excel or all those type of like
46:32
she
46:34
put off her you know what I'm saying or
46:36
you get into like Black Panther
46:38
being the queen of Wakanda like
46:40
I love Tiana but yeah she can't
46:42
yeah no I would say
46:44
Tiana
46:46
I'd say Tiana's
46:48
in a course all of her own
46:50
just from the standpoint that
46:52
she could literally sit back
46:54
after this movie and do
46:56
what she wants to do if she wants to sit
46:58
back and say let me keep making movies
47:00
keep making movies if she wants to say let me just focus
47:02
on music put out a CD
47:04
go on a tour
47:06
she could do that so
47:08
she's so multi
47:10
Tiana's so multi talented
47:12
she could pull a Rihanna if she wants
47:14
to just be like I'm gonna just do a
47:16
clothing line you know if she wants
47:18
to do a clothing line based off of her
47:20
one battle after another character or something
47:22
like that but she's in that
47:24
realm to where she
47:26
such a entrepreneur
47:28
that she
47:30
can literally take this and do whatever she wants with it
47:32
well I still
47:34
think Tiana is aspiring
47:36
to be that great
47:38
to be that great
47:40
that's all I'm trying to say
47:42
is that you know in today's
47:44
generation who is
47:46
the next one up
47:48
who's coming up
47:50
and she's coming up
47:52
that's all I'm trying to say
47:54
is that you know we
47:56
we both grew up with Angela
47:58
Bassett I grew up watching her
48:00
and love
48:02
her acting I think she's incredible
48:04
but in terms of
48:06
today's generation
48:08
these younger kids are looking
48:10
at Tiana right
48:12
do they necessarily know
48:14
Angela Bassett the way that
48:16
we do is all I'm trying to say
48:18
so who is
48:20
gonna be the next person
48:22
I would say Zendaya is more closer
48:24
to Angela Bassett than
48:26
I would say just because
48:28
Zendaya's been
48:30
strictly more
48:32
stayed in the lane of acting
48:34
you know same with Angela
48:36
Bassett that's legendary
48:38
actresses
48:40
whereas Tiana is
48:42
becoming
48:44
Tiana's become her own sort of iconic
48:46
things where she can literally do her own
48:48
type of thing now I mean
48:50
like Zendaya could probably go out
48:52
and sing or whatever put something like
48:54
that but everybody's always gonna put them in
48:56
this category of movie
48:58
star a list of territory
49:00
type of thing we also
49:02
need to see more from Tiana too
49:04
right we need to see more roles
49:06
like more yeah a little bit more
49:08
to see what she can bring
49:10
yeah
49:12
and talk about
49:14
not just roles but being
49:16
because if you're talking about Angela Bassett now you gotta be
49:18
you can't be no no less than number two
49:20
on the call sheet
49:22
and then we're talking about what type of movies are you
49:24
number one number two on the call sheet
49:26
for
49:28
in order to get to that but
49:30
but like I said I don't even
49:32
think Tiana needs that man
49:34
I think she's
49:36
so
49:38
set in
49:40
where she's at right now
49:42
career wise like I said she could literally
49:44
take this whole
49:46
Oscar Academy
49:48
this all Oscar awards
49:50
race and
49:52
literally the sky's the limit to where
49:54
even if she doesn't
49:56
not say she doesn't want
49:58
to but I
50:00
don't think she's gonna be stuck in
50:02
having which is a good thing she doesn't have to be
50:04
stuck in the realm of just she could take all
50:06
these awards and she could
50:08
take it to
50:10
take it to the stage like I said music
50:12
all this type like
50:14
her
50:16
I can't even get the words out about how
50:18
how far she's about to take herself
50:20
after this to where I like I said
50:22
movies is
50:24
just such a small thing
50:26
to what she to do after what she
50:28
after what she's about to do this year
50:30
well like you said she's multi
50:32
talented you know and what I love about
50:34
her mindset is anything that she
50:36
sets her mind to she does
50:38
she envisions it she plans
50:40
she strategizes and look at
50:42
what she's done I mean
50:44
she's the entertainer of the year
50:46
right like this
50:48
is somebody who can do it all
50:50
you know what I'd like to see her
50:52
do is I'd like
50:54
to see her in a musical
50:56
I'd like to see something
50:58
you know I'd like to see something like that
51:00
where she can sing dance
51:02
and act in a movie
51:04
I think that would be fantastic
51:06
I can see her do a theater
51:08
I can see her do a theater after this
51:10
she can do Broadway
51:12
absolutely
51:14
she's got the music chops buddy
51:16
like that's critical to have
51:18
if you're going to do some musicals
51:20
I think she would be fantastic in that
51:22
I'd like to see some different
51:24
things you know because we see
51:26
this hard side of
51:28
Tiana right like in this
51:30
role the specific role it's
51:32
like that badass type
51:34
but would you like to see
51:36
her in something else where
51:38
she can kind of you know
51:40
I wonder what she's thinking
51:42
in terms of her acting career
51:44
do you think she's
51:46
going to want to go to theater
51:48
do more concerts does she just
51:50
want to do it all
51:52
I think as far as like well how you said
51:54
like with her character being so tough
51:56
and stuff like that I think you get a lot of the
51:58
softer side of Tiana if you listen to her
52:00
music you'll get a lot of that
52:02
softer
52:04
side to her
52:06
as far as like but with her character
52:08
her
52:10
character had a very
52:12
small
52:14
little screen time that she had
52:16
her character had a pretty big
52:18
arc
52:20
absolutely
52:22
from just
52:24
how you say looking like she
52:26
was a badass to
52:28
almost when you look at her she like
52:30
almost think that she's just this
52:32
over sexualized person you
52:34
know but that is she's not necessarily
52:36
an over sexualized person
52:38
she just realizes that the world looks at her
52:40
that way so
52:42
she's going to use it to her advantage
52:44
and I personally
52:46
think that she made Sean Penn
52:48
better you know they talk about
52:50
an acting where you're only
52:52
as good as your scene partner
52:54
and they played well off
52:56
of each other Leo played
52:58
really well off Tiana and
53:00
let me ask you this do you think
53:02
that
53:04
the casting alone helped
53:06
make her be better
53:08
do you think that it helped
53:10
elevate her this experience
53:12
or do you think that she already
53:14
came into this
53:16
at that high level
53:20
I think she came into
53:22
it with the
53:24
the potential
53:26
I think that anytime you put yourself
53:28
in a movie with like a Leonardo DiCaprio
53:30
Benicio del Toro
53:32
Thomas Anderson, Regina Hall
53:34
even Wood Harris
53:36
when you put yourself in
53:38
those
53:40
around those types of people
53:42
you can't help but to be a sponge
53:44
so I can't say that like
53:46
I would find it hard to believe
53:48
that she was on that film set
53:50
or in the table
53:52
reads or any sort of like
53:54
even just the audition process
53:56
the multiple auditions or whatever it may be
53:58
I find it hard to believe
54:00
that she wasn't able to
54:02
take something away from
54:04
just
54:06
being around all these different
54:08
actors and actresses
54:10
and all these different types of artists
54:12
so I think it's kind of like got to be
54:14
a good mix of the both
54:16
just her
54:18
already having it in her
54:20
but then being around the right people
54:22
to kind of bring it out of her
54:24
because I know
54:26
she had just did a TV show
54:28
with Kim Kardashian
54:30
and I'm like Kim Kardashian ain't going to get that out of you
54:34
That's what I'm trying to say buddy
54:36
I felt like this put her
54:38
on another level
54:40
and I felt like you say she came in
54:42
with this level of potential
54:44
because we didn't really know what her potential
54:46
could be and now that we see
54:48
Oscar
54:50
nominee
54:52
Tiana Taylor
54:54
we're thinking about her in a different light now
54:56
we're thinking about her
54:58
like if I'm a casting director buddy
55:00
I'm going to start thinking
55:02
what scripts do I have around here
55:04
that maybe I could get Tiana
55:06
in right now
55:08
because she's got a major following doesn't she
55:10
I mean she's
55:12
very well known
55:14
and so now you put her in an Oscar
55:16
nominated film
55:18
with these Oscar nominated actors
55:20
it's just going to level
55:22
you up
55:24
but she came into it
55:26
having done the work
55:28
she came in prepared
55:30
I saw her on set
55:32
she's very serious
55:34
buddy with how she carries
55:36
herself on set
55:38
she's very professional
55:40
laser laser
55:42
focused buddy on set
55:44
when she was playing with
55:46
I got to see her act
55:48
with Leo and
55:50
when they were doing their scene
55:52
it was incredible
55:54
to witness that
55:56
that was so much fun
55:58
to get to watch that
56:00
it didn't end up in the movie
56:02
but it should have been
56:04
it should have been in the movie
56:06
because I think
56:08
they cut a lot of her scenes out
56:10
buddy because you talk
56:12
about screen time
56:14
and I can say that there were
56:16
some scenes that she was in
56:18
that were cut
56:20
I think they cut a lot of stuff out of that movie
56:22
I feel like that movie was probably going to be close to
56:24
3 hours if they left
56:26
everything in there
56:28
but they had to cut it down
56:30
they cut out a lot
56:32
but it still didn't feel like it was missing anything
56:34
they were still able to
56:36
basically
56:38
capture every dynamic
56:40
of her relationship with Sean Penn
56:42
Leonardo DiCaprio with the rest of the
56:44
mercenaries
56:46
so
56:48
that's
56:50
going to be the tough thing when it comes down
56:52
to who they choose to win because
56:54
with Tiana
56:56
performance wise
56:58
you can see why she
57:00
was the front runner from the very start
57:02
of the get go but now
57:04
it's coming down to the nitty gritty
57:06
of who
57:08
you think should win or
57:10
who we think will win
57:12
so I said I feel like she
57:14
the only thing that's going against
57:16
her right now is just the fact that she has
57:18
so little screen time now the screen time that
57:20
she is in she's killing it
57:22
you know but it's almost all like
57:24
it's like that feeling
57:26
like damn Levi you wanted more kind of shit
57:28
well I
57:30
felt that way about Heath Ledger's
57:32
performance in Batman
57:34
you know with the Joker he didn't
57:36
have a lot of screen time either
57:38
in that Dark Knight movie
57:40
but he still took
57:42
it down and still gave a memorable
57:44
performance so I'd like
57:46
to think with
57:48
a role like Tiana's role
57:50
mentioning about
57:52
screen time I'm hoping they don't
57:54
take that into consideration
57:56
I hope they just clean slate it
57:58
who did the best right like
58:00
let's take that out of the equation
58:02
I think would be the better thing to do
58:04
because you don't have any control
58:06
over that but I did
58:08
like what you said I like what you said
58:10
about
58:12
who gave the biggest
58:14
impact in
58:16
the movie
58:18
it's like what
58:20
character
58:22
supported the film the most
58:24
and who had the biggest
58:26
impact I'd like to ask you that
58:28
question out of these five
58:30
actresses who do you
58:32
think made the biggest
58:34
impact
58:36
the biggest
58:38
impact out of the actresses I would
58:40
have to say probably
58:42
Amy Madigan even though I didn't see
58:44
weapons
58:46
the movie revolves
58:48
around her
58:50
you know or her character at least
58:52
um
58:54
so I'd have to
58:56
say probably I'd have to probably say
58:58
Amy Madigan I would probably say the two actresses
59:00
from Sentimental Value probably like
59:02
towards it are probably towards the bottom of my
59:04
list correct when it
59:06
comes when it comes to Wunmi and
59:08
Tiana it's more so
59:10
just a toss up as far as
59:12
what movie
59:14
you favored
59:16
okay more so
59:18
um
59:20
I would yeah
59:22
yeah just because I said
59:24
you talk about weapons I mean
59:26
Amy Madigan was the weapon you know
59:28
she was the person well she was the person that was
59:30
controlling the weapons so correct
59:32
uh
59:34
and that's where that's I said that's where it kind of
59:36
gets tricky you know it's all like what
59:38
are these voters going to lean towards
59:40
if they're going to lean towards the
59:42
the fan frame of the person that's
59:44
been competing since the beginning but then you kind
59:46
that's what I want to see about Tiana Dabba like
59:48
with this being her first
59:50
experience being in the
59:52
awards race you know awards
59:54
season
59:56
um she had a lot
59:58
of momentum going in but and now
1:00:00
when I say Tiana I'm not talking about Tiana the person
1:00:02
I'm talking about Tiana like her team
1:00:04
of people that represent her
1:00:06
did they kind of go in
1:00:08
um overestimating what it
1:00:10
meant to actually campaign
1:00:12
for an Oscar
1:00:14
because you even kind of see that with Timothy
1:00:16
Chalamet and we're not going to get into that too much
1:00:18
but you even see what Timothy Chalamet kind of
1:00:20
um
1:00:22
backpedaling so much on the
1:00:24
you know being so president
1:00:26
being trying to be everywhere
1:00:28
I wonder if that's
1:00:30
kind of the same thing with Tiana's team
1:00:32
I think it's all about
1:00:34
momentum buddy and let
1:00:36
let's ask this question now who's
1:00:38
got the momentum right now
1:00:40
who do you think
1:00:42
has got it right now
1:00:44
to win because the Oscars
1:00:46
are coming up real soon
1:00:48
and the momentum I think
1:00:50
is on somebody
1:00:52
right now that I think
1:00:54
it's it's right here
1:00:56
if you're talking about momentum
1:00:58
if you're talking about momentum then momentum
1:01:00
based off of the last awards
1:01:02
so then you would lead
1:01:04
towards Amy Madigan but then
1:01:06
you look at just a week before that
1:01:08
after BAFTAs which is you know
1:01:10
the British version of the
1:01:12
Oscars
1:01:14
um Wunmi won
1:01:16
so if you're looking at the you know
1:01:18
the foreign Oscars
1:01:20
Wunmi has the advantage because
1:01:22
I'm imagining that what their
1:01:24
criteria is for
1:01:26
you know award winning performances
1:01:28
would be more in line with
1:01:30
what the Academy's
1:01:32
is whereas what the
1:01:34
the Actors Awards I said it's
1:01:36
just it's the actors that are
1:01:38
voting you know so
1:01:40
well let's let's ask
1:01:42
this one more time because do you
1:01:44
think Tiana's got a fighting chance
1:01:46
now because you got Wunmi
1:01:48
and you got Amy oh yeah she's got
1:01:50
a fighting chance right now to win
1:01:52
yeah Tiana yeah
1:01:54
I still think she has a fighting chance I
1:01:56
think that
1:01:58
I think that like I said I think
1:02:00
Amy Madigan has a lot of momentum going into it
1:02:02
I could see why
1:02:04
if she were to win why
1:02:06
she would win but I'm
1:02:08
still going with for as far
1:02:10
as like for who my my choices are
1:02:12
my choice is still
1:02:14
Tiana being the front runner I still got Tiana
1:02:16
winning the Oscar
1:02:18
if not then I have Wunmi
1:02:20
Wunmi
1:02:22
being um
1:02:24
second then Amy
1:02:26
for third and then the
1:02:28
two actresses for sentimental value
1:02:30
but yeah I still got Tiana
1:02:32
Tiana's still my front runner for winning
1:02:34
the Oscar I still think that she's
1:02:36
she's going to um
1:02:38
um win it because I said
1:02:40
it's now it's coming down to studios
1:02:42
how much you know they're putting
1:02:44
forth with it and because it's this is
1:02:46
all under Warner Brothers
1:02:48
and Warner Brothers
1:02:50
had this plan from the beginning from the
1:02:52
get-go this will be all
1:02:54
about Paul Thomas Anderson it's all going to
1:02:56
be about Tiana Taylor I
1:02:58
really don't see them
1:03:00
letting their foot off the gas
1:03:02
just because Amy
1:03:04
Madigan won the best supporting actress
1:03:06
at the the Actors Awards I still
1:03:08
think that they're
1:03:10
still gung-ho
1:03:12
on doing whatever they
1:03:14
can for Tiana to win the Oscar if
1:03:16
Tiana's not going to win it then I think it's
1:03:18
going to be Wunmi
1:03:20
well right now for me
1:03:22
buddy I think
1:03:24
Amy Madigan is the front runner
1:03:26
I think Wunmi's right
1:03:28
on her tail could easily
1:03:30
win Wunmi right now
1:03:32
for me
1:03:34
I think Tiana's
1:03:36
lost some momentum
1:03:38
and you know
1:03:40
it's not to take away I don't think she's
1:03:42
eliminated I think she's still contender
1:03:44
but I think
1:03:46
I've got Tiana third
1:03:48
now so again
1:03:50
Amy one
1:03:52
Wunmi two
1:03:54
Tiana three
1:03:56
I put Inga
1:03:58
four and Elle five
1:04:00
so
1:04:02
for me
1:04:04
it comes down to the
1:04:06
momentum factor
1:04:08
also I wonder
1:04:10
if they're going to weigh in the fact that
1:04:12
Amy has had
1:04:14
a 40 plus year career
1:04:16
and this is the first time
1:04:18
we've seen in 40 years
1:04:20
another nomination
1:04:22
and her role was so
1:04:24
iconic where
1:04:26
like I said earlier
1:04:28
you know
1:04:30
she's a new Halloween costume
1:04:34
so
1:04:36
man this is so
1:04:38
tough but those are my choices
1:04:40
um
1:04:42
it's so hard
1:04:44
for me to choose because
1:04:46
Wunmi and Tiana gave
1:04:48
phenomenal all these actresses
1:04:50
gave phenomenal performances
1:04:52
and that's what makes this decision
1:04:54
so tough and I would
1:04:56
hate to be the one to have to make that
1:04:58
decision
1:05:00
that and like
1:05:02
I said I still believe that the Academy Awards
1:05:04
they still don't truly recognize horror
1:05:06
as like
1:05:08
um
1:05:10
like a
1:05:12
legit award
1:05:14
winning genre you know what I mean
1:05:16
so this is what makes
1:05:18
Sinner so cool
1:05:20
I think that also because
1:05:22
Sinner plays as more than just a horror
1:05:24
movie you know what I'm saying the
1:05:26
cultural impact that Sinner has
1:05:28
kind of
1:05:30
gives it that sort of leverage
1:05:32
but yeah I still
1:05:34
yeah
1:05:36
as good as the performances Amy Madigan
1:05:38
has done I believe that she did do a good performance
1:05:40
like I said I didn't see Sinner but I've seen
1:05:42
bits of her performance
1:05:44
yeah I still gotta lean
1:05:46
towards Tiana just because
1:05:48
I
1:05:50
like I said everyone
1:05:52
is deserving of a performance but if we're talking about
1:05:54
campaigning and all that stuff
1:05:56
and I think that
1:05:58
she
1:06:00
she's had that momentum since the beginning
1:06:02
and then also
1:06:04
um
1:06:06
I forgot what my second point was
1:06:08
but whatever it may be
1:06:10
but like I said yeah I think she has that
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and um
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it's interesting to see
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it'll be interesting to see because
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I don't believe there's momentum
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I just don't believe there's no momentum going into this
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to this final
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this final week
1:06:26
you know what I'm saying or this final
1:06:28
too many people have won
1:06:30
the award for there to really be any sort
1:06:32
of true momentum
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going into it
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you know for me though buddy
1:06:38
what I've always been wondering
1:06:40
is
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certain actors who have won
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Golden Globes
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like I'm gonna just mention Jim Carrey
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because he's been in the news about
1:06:50
like being cloned and all this
1:06:52
Jim Carrey comes to mind because he's
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won two Golden Globes
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and he's never been nominated for an Oscar
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when he
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was worthy he was worthy of being
1:07:02
nominated once
1:07:04
and so for me I
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wonder if they still
1:07:08
feel that way if you win the Golden
1:07:10
Globe if you're worthy of winning
1:07:12
the Oscar
1:07:14
nowadays because Tiana
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took down a nod for
1:07:18
an Oscar
1:07:20
and she won the Golden
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Globe is why I bring that up so
1:07:24
like you say
1:07:26
does that momentum
1:07:28
of winning the Golden Globe carry
1:07:30
all the way to the
1:07:32
Oscars
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I think if done right
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yes which is why I kind of
1:07:38
went back to my point at the beginning of the day that
1:07:40
her Tiana's team
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probably didn't understand
1:07:44
what
1:07:46
all went into campaigning
1:07:48
throughout the whole entire
1:07:50
award season
1:07:52
because when you see especially with the Golden Globes
1:07:54
coming around and all the nominations started
1:07:56
I think she was even hosted SNL
1:07:58
and all these types of things
1:08:00
everywhere and I think that's where
1:08:02
if we say the steam kind of
1:08:04
lost out
1:08:06
towards the end of the awards season
1:08:08
but if you just look at what she was able to
1:08:10
capture
1:08:12
for that little bit of lightning
1:08:14
in the bottle
1:08:20
I also think though the
1:08:22
success of Sinners
1:08:24
though has also leveled up
1:08:26
Wunmi too because you're talking
1:08:28
about Sinners that
1:08:30
has outperformed
1:08:32
one battle after another so
1:08:34
far right like in terms
1:08:36
of awards and so
1:08:38
now we're really looking at
1:08:40
Wunmi now whereas before
1:08:42
maybe I wouldn't have looked at
1:08:44
her if Sinners
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wasn't nominated for 16
1:08:48
Oscars
1:08:50
and that's where I think
1:08:52
nominations
1:08:54
that's where I think they become
1:08:56
that's where I think it's just
1:08:58
it's almost
1:09:02
going to hurt Wunmi
1:09:04
and even these other
1:09:06
nominees as well just because
1:09:08
I don't want to say there's necessarily an afterthought
1:09:10
but it wasn't
1:09:12
until
1:09:14
Sinners
1:09:16
became the big old
1:09:18
cultural phenomenon that it was
1:09:20
that people
1:09:22
made people
1:09:24
look at it different
1:09:26
I think that with
1:09:28
one battle after another I think
1:09:30
one of the things that even going into
1:09:32
marketing and promoting one battle
1:09:34
after another was the fact that people were saying
1:09:36
that this was Tiana's Oscar
1:09:38
performance
1:09:40
so even just the fact that
1:09:42
the part of the marketing strategy
1:09:44
towards one battle
1:09:46
after another was
1:09:48
Tiana winning this Oscar
1:09:50
PTA winning the Oscar whereas
1:09:52
Wunmi
1:09:54
she's almost like
1:09:56
I don't
1:09:58
want to say byproducts I think that might sound
1:10:00
wrong but
1:10:02
that's what I can use for right now just a byproduct
1:10:04
of the cultural phenomenon
1:10:06
that was
1:10:08
Sinners
1:10:10
It was such an ensemble
1:10:12
piece though too buddy because
1:10:14
it's so hard to
1:10:16
it's so hard to
1:10:18
look at the
1:10:20
when you strip away all these other
1:10:22
performances and like when you
1:10:24
look at these performances individually
1:10:26
every single performance stands out
1:10:28
but
1:10:30
they tie
1:10:32
in so seamlessly together when you put
1:10:34
them all together that it is
1:10:36
it's almost like they don't stand out
1:10:38
you know what I'm saying
1:10:40
Right
1:10:42
So
1:10:44
yeah I don't know
1:10:46
it's a toss up
1:10:48
It's a toss up but
1:10:50
it sounds like you're
1:10:52
team
1:10:54
Tiana and I guess
1:10:56
I'm team Amy even though I'm
1:10:58
rooting for Tiana
1:11:00
or Wunmi
1:11:02
I want
1:11:04
yeah this is so hard
1:11:06
because
1:11:08
yeah I just can't decide
1:11:10
but for me I guess
1:11:12
I gotta give it to Amy just because
1:11:14
her role was so iconic
1:11:16
and something that I'm never gonna
1:11:18
forget literally
1:11:22
But no this is gonna be a good awards race
1:11:24
man we're gonna see how things line up
1:11:26
if y'all are watching on
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Facebook or wherever just
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put in the comment who you think's gonna win
1:11:32
for the best supporting actress
1:11:34
or even
1:11:36
any other actors or other
1:11:38
categories for that matter
1:11:40
we're gonna wrap this
1:11:42
episode up man
1:11:44
this has been us checking out the best
1:11:46
supporting actresses
1:11:48
for this year's Academy Award nominations
1:11:50
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1:12:36
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