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Star Wars Alliance The Mandalorian & Grogu Movie Review CCXC · Star Wars Alliance

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  Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always.
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  Speaker 2: Hell hello, and welcome back to another episode of a
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  Speaker 2: Star Wars Alliance. Of course, I'm your host, Clay and
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  Speaker 2: with me for the very first Star Wars Alliance movie
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  Speaker 2: review in six years. Guys, yeah years. It took us
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  Speaker 2: six years to finally get a movie review. But we
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  Speaker 2: are finally here. We are excited. Is Kate Katie is
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  Speaker 2: here with me? Hi? Guys, we better? Yes, I was
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  Speaker 2: gonna say, you definitely sound a lot better, a lot
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  Speaker 2: better than you did this last episode. We are going
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  Speaker 2: to be talking about the Mandalorian and Grogu movie review.
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  Speaker 2: As the title says, now, we do have our traditional
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  Speaker 2: non spoiler review. Now we said this in our last
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  Speaker 2: episode when we did theories and predictions. Go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: run it by you guys again. And I just noticed
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  Speaker 2: by camera is tilted. That's weird. So we are going
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  Speaker 2: to review this movie the exact same way we review
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  Speaker 2: all of the Star Wars books. So that means that
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  Speaker 2: we have a non spoiler section that we're talking about,
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  Speaker 2: of course, the non specific portions of the story. We
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  Speaker 2: are not going to give a letter grade or a
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  Speaker 2: number grade to this movie because you will know how
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  Speaker 2: we feel about the movie with the topics that we're
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  Speaker 2: going to be talking about. In our opinions, we don't
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  Speaker 2: feel that it needs to be justified by a number
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  Speaker 2: or a letter. And with our thoughts, you can then
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  Speaker 2: compile your own opinion on whether you should go see
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  Speaker 2: the movie or not. If you haven't seen it already,
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  Speaker 2: or if you have, you can agree or disagree with
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  Speaker 2: it whatever we say.
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  Speaker 3: So very simple with that statement. Yes, first impressions. So
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  Speaker 3: Clay and I both saw this movie twice.
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  Speaker 2: Guys.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so we saw it once yesterday to kind of
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  Speaker 3: get the first impression reaction, and then today's showing was
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  Speaker 3: like detailed thoughts review type things. So Clay walking out
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  Speaker 3: of your theater yesterday, Well.
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  Speaker 2: First, I am going to tell you the exact same
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  Speaker 2: thing that I told the Geek Verse Star Wars chat
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  Speaker 2: inside of the Geek First Discord, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: go check out we are all in there. I simply
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  Speaker 2: said this this is a two hour season. Uh. It
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  Speaker 2: almost feels like Mowana too, where you can kind of
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  Speaker 2: feel where each episode would have started in which where
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  Speaker 2: every episode would have ended. It wasn't bad, it just
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  Speaker 2: wasn't reinventing the wheel.
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  Speaker 3: That is my that needed to be sorry where?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? But that that is this That like my thoughts
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  Speaker 2: walking out of the movie on the because what I
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  Speaker 2: told everybody was first viewing is Hey, I'm gonna sit
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  Speaker 2: down and I'm going to enjoy myself. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: watch it just to enjoy a movie.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Second viewing is where I sat in the corner of
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  Speaker 2: the theater with my phone all the way brightness down,
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  Speaker 2: taking notes after notes after notes, being critical of the
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  Speaker 2: movie and everything else. So my more specific thoughts are
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  Speaker 2: going to come later. But for those of you who
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  Speaker 2: are actually watching, I do have a giant list of
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  Speaker 2: notes that I took.
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  Speaker 3: And I did too, I went pit and paper, but
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  Speaker 3: two and a half pages. Yeah, so a lot of
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  Speaker 3: that is because I couldn't see where I was writing,
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  Speaker 3: so it kind of fell where it did on the page.
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  Speaker 2: Makes sense for me.
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  Speaker 3: First impressions, I really enjoyed myself. Could I see where
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  Speaker 3: this was originally supposed to be a TV show and
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  Speaker 3: they cut it together? Yes, you totally can. Doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: that I didn't still enjoy myself. I went, like I
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  Speaker 3: told you guys on Wednesday, I went looking for family, fun,
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  Speaker 3: adventure and That's exactly what I got. I didn't have
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  Speaker 3: to worry too much about what else was going on.
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  Speaker 3: You can step into this movie pure fresh. I told
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  Speaker 3: my mom, because my mom asked me. I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you don't have to see anything to go watch this,
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  Speaker 3: like you're perfectly set up for that.
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  Speaker 2: That is true. You do not have to watch any
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  Speaker 2: of the previous seasons. I will say one thing that
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  Speaker 2: we talked about was, Hey, this first viewing will be
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  Speaker 2: a hey, is this family friendly enough to go take
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  Speaker 2: our kids too? I can tell you right now, due
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  Speaker 2: to the loud noises that Amberlyn absolutely despises and tiny
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  Speaker 2: spoiler maybe two or three moments of suspense, I can
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  Speaker 2: tell you I cannot take Amberlyn to watch this movie,
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  Speaker 2: nor can she watch it when it first drops on Disney.
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  Speaker 2: Plus she gets older, I think she will watch it eventually,
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  Speaker 2: for sure.
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  Speaker 3: I think I could show Mara like the there's like
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  Speaker 3: a twenty minute segment that I think would be fine.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Greg is on the chat. Hello Greg uh.
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  Speaker 3: Greg.
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  Speaker 2: I will say that I believe before we get into
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  Speaker 2: our spoiler talk and on this topic, I believe this
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  Speaker 2: movie is for anybody, and it all it's all subjective
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to parenting, that's totally up to you, guys.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really care. But in my mind, seven years
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  Speaker 2: old and older I think is quite possible the age
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  Speaker 2: range where you can talk to your kid beforehand and
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  Speaker 2: say like, hey, it's gonna be a little loud, there's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be maybe one or two scary parts, yep. But
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  Speaker 2: after that it should be a lot of fun like
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  Speaker 2: in that like conversation, uh with with your children. But
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  Speaker 2: like I said, my daughter is three years old. She
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  Speaker 2: likes grogu But with what I saw, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 2: take her to see this movie.
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  Speaker 3: I do think this movie's biggest failing is in the
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  Speaker 3: choice of cinematographer. The cinematographer for Kenvin Smith's Clerks franchise,
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  Speaker 3: this is not the movie he should have been the
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  Speaker 3: cinematographer for. And I was like, because that was my
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  Speaker 3: biggest thing yesterday. I was I was like, man, some
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  Speaker 3: of these cuts are yanky, And I didn't know who
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  Speaker 3: the cinematographer was. I couldn't remember, And so looking it
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  Speaker 3: up right now, his biggest movie are Clerks Clerks Too, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: actually Chasing Amy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, big Kevin Smith employee right there. Yeah, I I
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  Speaker 2: can see it. Uh. There is a lot of not
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  Speaker 2: legitimate talking heads in this movie, but there is a
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  Speaker 2: lot of chest up shots, not a whole lot of
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  Speaker 2: full body shots. And that is something that uh that
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  Speaker 2: clerks and talking uh chasing Amy is is really big
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  Speaker 2: at so that makes a lot of sense. Actually, another
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  Speaker 2: non spoiler music we said this was the return of
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  Speaker 2: uh Ludwig or Ludwig is it Ludwig or Lugwin? But
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  Speaker 2: sounded great. I really enjoyed. There is a moment in
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  Speaker 2: the like somewhat beginning of the film that is very
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  Speaker 2: like very classic techno Japanese pop esque. Yeah, and it
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  Speaker 2: really fits with the story and I dig it. I
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  Speaker 2: dug that part of the of the music. Yeah, there
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  Speaker 2: is one music portion that kind of took me out,
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  Speaker 2: and we will talk about that because it does have
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  Speaker 2: to deal with the third act. But yeah, other other
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  Speaker 2: than that, I think the music did really great. What
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  Speaker 2: about for you?
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  Speaker 3: For me? I really loved the music. I love how
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  Speaker 3: Ludwig kind of tailored his musical choices to each environment
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  Speaker 3: that we were in, whether that was Adelphi, Nwahada and
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  Speaker 3: Shikari and even Navarro almost to an extent. I think
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  Speaker 3: all we know all four of those planets are in here,
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  Speaker 3: so that's not a spoiler. But I really dug that
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  Speaker 3: that he tailored each one like Chakari's a little more techno,
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  Speaker 3: and then everything else kind of leans a little classical,
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  Speaker 3: with like some outbeats in the key points. But very
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  Speaker 3: good job. Greg says, yeah, I think Ludwig does a
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  Speaker 3: great job with this franchise. Greg also said this movie
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  Speaker 3: was fun, good, not great. It was a long episode
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  Speaker 3: of the show and made me remember why I fell
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  Speaker 3: off the series beginning of season three. I could totally
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  Speaker 3: get that. Yeah, good, not great. I think this was
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  Speaker 3: a great family, fun adventure that doesn't have a whole
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  Speaker 3: lot of takes involved. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 3: it's very similar to like, to me, this is a
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  Speaker 3: better movie than Solo in the stance that it stands
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  Speaker 3: alone a little bit better and doesn't necessarily have all
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  Speaker 3: of those things that you have to understand you get
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  Speaker 3: where you're going with the opening crawl Pig quotes.
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  Speaker 2: I was not gonna mention that yet because I that
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  Speaker 2: is technically like somewhat spoilerish, But when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: what you guys are talking about I am literally split
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  Speaker 2: down the middle. There is the side of my brain
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  Speaker 2: that says, hey, I know the Mandalorian is a like
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  Speaker 2: like it feels like a what do they call it,
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  Speaker 2: a company agent. That's like literally Mandalorian was was literally
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  Speaker 2: created to just bring more family fun and not so
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  Speaker 2: crazy with the lore. But of course it's gonna dabble
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  Speaker 2: with it because of fullaw right, Like, I know that
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  Speaker 2: that is the reason why Mandalorian was created. But of
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  Speaker 2: course then you have the Star Wars fan in me.
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  Speaker 2: One of my criterias of this movie was, hey, as
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  Speaker 2: long as it moves the needle forward for the Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars franchise moving the story forward, then we are a Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go ahead and say spoiler. And this one
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  Speaker 2: part of the conversation that needle for moving the Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars franchise forward does not move.
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  Speaker 3: I disagree with you there, but we will have to
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  Speaker 3: talk about that more in depth than the spoiler.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we will. Yeah, and Greg says for him himself,
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  Speaker 2: no need to move here, Clay, So we will talk
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  Speaker 2: about that. Another part of non spoiler that we wanted
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  Speaker 2: to discuss, just like we do in all of our
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  Speaker 2: book reviews representation. I have three points when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to representation, so point number one zero representation for lg
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  Speaker 2: LGBTQ plus qa. So that's a strike for us. It
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  Speaker 2: also fails are alien representation because the only aliens that
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  Speaker 2: we see are either bad guys or non verbal monsters.
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  Speaker 2: We don't you like we have been a really big
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  Speaker 2: proponent of, hey, we need to see more aliens in
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  Speaker 2: the galaxy. When you look at the New Republic, they're
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  Speaker 2: all humans. I'm not really big into that because it's
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  Speaker 2: a giant galaxy.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and I think it does do better at the
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  Speaker 3: aliens being involved, because you're too like two of your
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  Speaker 3: good guys. Here, you have zeb who is more of
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  Speaker 3: a minor character but still have a lot of speaking roles.
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  Speaker 2: And Roda yes.
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  Speaker 3: And Roda kind of being I would say, almost like
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  Speaker 3: the pro like the co protagonists here. So so the
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  Speaker 3: I would agree with Greg.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's Well, then you have Martin Scorcias's character,
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  Speaker 2: which was on what was the planet called again, I
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  Speaker 2: can't remember the planet's name.
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  Speaker 3: It was just the moon of Chakari.
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  Speaker 2: Chakari okay, yes, the moon of Shakari. And then I
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  Speaker 2: don't remember anyone else other than the bad guy alien
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  Speaker 2: that was working with Coin. So, but we are getting
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  Speaker 2: into spoilers territory there. But another portion, and this is
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  Speaker 2: something that is important to Abby when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: pop culture and everything else. So I wanted to go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and bring it up. Is the and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: butcher this name Bechetel test test, Butcher Bechtel test, which
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  Speaker 2: of course is the feminist test. It is basically, hey,
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  Speaker 2: is this is there anywhere in this movie where two
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  Speaker 2: female characters talk about anything that is not male related
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  Speaker 2: and that does not happen?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because your only a female character here is the.
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  Speaker 2: Colonel Sigourney Weaver's character.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Ward, Colonel Ward.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So I wanted to go ahead and and put
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  Speaker 2: that one down as well. Shout out to Abby. So
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  Speaker 2: those were my key points when it came to representation.
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  Speaker 2: Was there anything that you wanted to point out specifically?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Greg, But the point is is that this is
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  Speaker 3: for so Greg says, but male characters don't talk about
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  Speaker 3: only male related things. The point is is that they're
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  Speaker 3: not talking about a relationship basically. So that's the standard
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  Speaker 3: in like romantic like especially older in time. So that's
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  Speaker 3: the standard. And at this point I would have just said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: is there two female characters talking to each other. There's
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  Speaker 3: only one female character that has a speaking role. So
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  Speaker 3: I did just one point out that even though they
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  Speaker 3: didn't speak, a lot of the pilots on the Adelphi
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  Speaker 3: base uh were diverse. They were being pulled a lot
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  Speaker 3: from like producers and directors. So you saw like Deborah Chow,
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  Speaker 3: Rick Fammi Yua.
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  Speaker 2: It was the entire x wing fleet that was all
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  Speaker 2: of the directors, which I thought was really funny. But
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  Speaker 2: I did kind of harp on them as one of
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  Speaker 2: my comments for like writing things down, so.
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  Speaker 3: That doesn't bug me. I did appreciate that Deborah Chow
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  Speaker 3: actually came back because I thought maybe she had had
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  Speaker 3: a terrible experience after Obi.
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  Speaker 2: Wan Kenobi, Afterbi. Yeah, but at least.
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  Speaker 3: She came back, and like, maybe we'll see her again theoretically,
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  Speaker 3: So general thoughts, non spoiler.
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  Speaker 2: I think overall, like I said with with the comment
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  Speaker 2: of this being a two hour show or a two
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  Speaker 2: hour season of Mandalorian, it is a good time, not
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  Speaker 2: a great time. It's not like again, as my comments said,
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  Speaker 2: it's not reinventing the wheel it doesn't need to reinvent
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  Speaker 2: the wheel. But I do think that this movie, like
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  Speaker 2: it's a it's in a very awkward spot and I'm
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to understand the corporate mindset of saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: why put this so close? And I say so close?
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  Speaker 2: And it really isn't time wise to what will be,
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  Speaker 2: of course, Starfighter, because what you will end up getting
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  Speaker 2: if Starfighter is this bombastic, amazing, blockbuster breaking record Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars movie, You're gonna look and people are gonna say, oh, look,
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  Speaker 2: Mandalorian couldn't even do this, you know, and especially like
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  Speaker 2: when it's the new president of Lucasfilm's baby, you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: It's just it feels like a company just said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: here's my blaster, let me point it at my foot.
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  Speaker 3: I I think a. I agree with Greg. Greg says,
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  Speaker 3: go goo money grab.
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  Speaker 2: B.
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  Speaker 3: I think too. It is a standard character at this
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  Speaker 3: point where they can go, Okay, we're experimenting, trying to
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  Speaker 3: put this here, and then if people are like, man,
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  Speaker 3: this thinks, Man, this sucks, then potentially you go into
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  Speaker 3: Starfighter with people having lower expectations and then it get
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  Speaker 3: blown out of the water.
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  Speaker 2: Potentially, yes, potentially, But I also feel like that kind
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  Speaker 2: of makes them scared to go see another Star Wars movie.
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  Speaker 2: And that's more so general audience. We all know, no
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  Speaker 2: matter how many times somebody complains about a Star Wars movie,
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  Speaker 2: if they're a Star Wars fan, they're gonna go and
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna be one of the very first ones to
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  Speaker 2: watch a Star Wars movie always. So just for me,
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  Speaker 2: it just feels like, okay, like it's in a weird spot.
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  Speaker 2: I do want to go ahead and make the comment
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  Speaker 2: that European box office did underperform, so instead of being
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty five global that they projected is
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  Speaker 2: now all the way down to one sixty five. That's
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  Speaker 2: twenty million down.
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  Speaker 3: So they hadn't predicted one hundred and eighty five million globally.
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  Speaker 3: They had predicted eighty five million opening weekend. It was
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  Speaker 3: one hundred for the US box office and then eighty
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  Speaker 3: five million for global box office.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, yeah, but but together it was one
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  Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five the Okay, I do what you're saying. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: so the projections are now because of the underperformance of
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  Speaker 2: the first two days. Again, we'll have the entire weekend, guys,
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  Speaker 2: because of the underperformance of the first two days, they
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  Speaker 2: are projecting that instead of eighty five, it will be
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  Speaker 2: sixty five.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And they had twelve million at the box office
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  Speaker 3: for the US yesterday, so not great, not terrible. I
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  Speaker 3: was telling Clayton my showing yesterday, our showings yesterday, we
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  Speaker 3: both had ten people. Clay showing this morning you had,
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  Speaker 3: you said you had four people.
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  Speaker 2: Four Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. My showing at three forty this afternoon fully booked,
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  Speaker 3: like everybody was there. I got the last seat available
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  Speaker 3: at the at the screening, so I think it'll come
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  Speaker 3: and go. Could this movie have done better on Disney Plus, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: but it wouldn't have made as much money.
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  Speaker 2: That is true. I at this point, which is crazy
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  Speaker 2: to say, I do not believe that Mandalorian and Grogu
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  Speaker 2: is a like uh subscription like producer, Like they aren't.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody is creating a Disney Plus account or renewing a
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  Speaker 2: Disney Plus account to watch Mandalorian.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree, and I will say I do think
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  Speaker 3: this was produced for a theater and like they specifically
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  Speaker 3: filmed it a lot better than the Disney Plus shows.
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  Speaker 3: Because you know how we have constantly talked about how
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  Speaker 3: Disney plus or like any streaming service, you go to
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  Speaker 3: a dark scene and it's like terribly hard to view. Yes, yes,
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  Speaker 3: I agree, scene here phenomenal, like very well done.
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  Speaker 2: So the two moments that I think you're talking about,
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  Speaker 2: maybe even three. I saw everything crystal clear. Everything looked great.
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  Speaker 2: I love the lighting, the coloring. Everything looked gorgeous when
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  Speaker 2: it came to those moments. So I agree. I one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: And finishing up the box office talk, Greg says, now
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  Speaker 3: people still go see Fast and Furious movies no matter
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  Speaker 3: how crazy they are. Make the Star Wars movies that
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  Speaker 3: will come, Yes, And I think people just need to
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  Speaker 3: understand that the box office isn't going back to help
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  Speaker 3: was before COVID one. We'll need to produce movies better
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  Speaker 3: and recognize that, hey, if we can produce a movie
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  Speaker 3: under one hundred million, that's great because at this point
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  Speaker 3: you're still going to make profit. You're just not making
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  Speaker 3: two billion dollars at the box office.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: And also, I genuinely believe that today's studios need to
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: stop thinking with algorithms and go back to the classic
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: advertising because Disney, I used to say, was a marketing machine.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I do not believe that Disney is the marketing machine
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: that they once were. I think that the marketing for
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Mandalorian Grogu itself was not as good as previous movies
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: that I have seen before, even for Star Wars movies,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: like for Rise of Skywalker, regardless of how people felt
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: going into it or even afterward. I don't think Disney
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: is the marketing machine that it used to be because
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: they rely too much on algorithms now. That's just personally
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: how I feel.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I would say this was better marketed than the Star
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Wars story films previously. I don't remember too much about
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: the Rise of Skywalker marketing, But then again, I'm not
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: on social media that often that much right now, so
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I definitely feel like I saw the appropriate commercials at
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: the appropriate time. Like all the commercials all my streaming
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: stuff right now are Mandalorian and Grogriy related basically, Yeah,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: So I it's hard to say.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Also because Mandalori and Grogu is technically marketed as a
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: family friendly movie. Having Scream as an advertised movie before
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: this movie is wild, Yeah, like not not Scream as
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: a scary movie. Not Scream scary movie, sorry, the parody
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: scary movie like having that movie like, uh advertised in
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: front of Mandalorian Grogu. I was like, that's wild. Like
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: even in my first showing there was only ten people,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: but three of those people were children under ten years old. Yeah, okay, whatever,
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: but yeah, uh, is there anything else that you can
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: think of non spoiler you want to jump into before
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: we go?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I will to say this in the non sploit. This
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: is one of Jon Fava's worst directed films. I feel like,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I feel like he didn't do a lot of directing
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: in this. What do you feel with that?
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: So I saw a tweet that said, let me actually
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: grab it because it was in the geek verse. It's
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: literally right here. It says, oh my gosh, they did it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: He says, Jon Favreau really did it. He forgot how
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: to make a movie. And I will not say that yet.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: He is making another Disney movie. He's making another Disney
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: movie that's based off of the I can't remember the
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: character's name, but like it was filmed at Disney World,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: like and it's gonna.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Be the the Steamboat Mickey.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: It's it's not Steamboat Willie, but it's like what the
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Steamboat Willy was based off of or something like that.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I can't remember the character's name, but it's gonna be
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: half animation half live action. So let me see that
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: movie and then I will say, Okay, Jon Favreau, you
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: may want to go back to acting. Yes, again, he
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: was directing a two hour season of a show, So
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: with that in mind, I didn't feel like the directing
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: was too out of Oswald. Yes, right there, Thank you
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: so much, Oswald the Rabbit, Thank you so much. That's
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: that's the movie he is making. Okay, But again, with
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: the idea of this being a two hour season of
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Mandalorian Grogu, I felt that as it was just a
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: TV show on the big screen.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just didn't feel like he was getting the
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: because he's directed episodes of The mandalor and he typically
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: directs the opening episode and.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: The ending in the finale.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just didn't feel like he was getting
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: the same performance. And maybe that's because Pedro Pascal was
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: in the suit a lot of the time in this
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Like that's the report is that he was in the suit.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I was going to see if there was anything that
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: was saying that, because I felt that there was a
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: huge difference in performance of the body performance Yeah, between
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: what we know majority to be Wayne, Brendan Wayne, and
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: of course Pedro. So if that is the case, I
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: could definitely see it for sure.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because Latif Crowder typically does the stunt work Bob
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: and Brendan Wayne is the body double for like most
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: of the performance. So you're right, we know this. This
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: is not a spoiler. It was in the trailer. He
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: got some screen time. He got some screen time. I
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: think that's the last thing I had that's non spoiler related.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, so very first thing, the very first thing that
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: shows up in the movie.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Let's give blatant spoiler warning for the podcast people.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Thirty minutes and fifty seven seconds. Thirty one minutes now,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: spoiler talk starts now. Okay, very first thing that shows
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: up in this movie is what you technically spoiled, the crawl.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I didn't need it. It was man, you either do
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: it or you don't.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm like. I get it in this sense,
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: because you wanted to make it as friendly as possible
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: to where you didn't have to go watch the TV show.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I get it. I just wish because this crawl that
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: they are attempting to do in this sense looks.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Cheap, yes, very much. So it looks it looked and
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: felt like a high school presentation, like, Oh, this is
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: what I'm about to show you, here's the movie. And
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: so I literally have in my notes Mandalorian opening krawl
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: in quotation and then in parentheses I said, meh.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I said fulk krawl.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people and I don't know if
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: you actually watched this trailer, but on Star Wars Day
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: on May the fourth, okay, the scene that they shared
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: was when you were like, oh, they cut out the
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: part where you know Amando said this at the stroller.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: His dialogue was just cropped somewhere else. It was when
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: he went on the walker in the beginning of the movie,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: he said, oh, what are you waiting for, hop In?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: And then they run down the mountain side to the
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: at eighties right, so that entire portion that he is
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: running down and then they start shooting at him, and
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: then when he jumps onto one of the legs, that's
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: the moment that the scene ends. For the TV spot
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: that they released on May the fourth, Okay, all of
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: the dialogue from that moment was what everybody was predicting, Oh,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: if this is the entire movie I don't need to
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: see this movie. And I agreed in that portion, saying
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: the dialogue overall was kind of weak, like it was
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: very like cut and dry.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: It's like they wanted to make a movie solely about Grogu,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: but then didn't have the capability, so they needed other
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: characters involved, yes, to really make it work to where
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: it was a story about Grogu and Grogu's growth going forward.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I do think that Grogu moved forward in the story
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: and he learned a lot. So that's like the point
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: where I disagree with you, because when you were talking
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: about the needle moving forward, I thought you were specifically
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: talking about grogus story on Wednesday.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: See no, no, no, no, I was talking about the story
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: of Star Wars. I because I separated the two. I said,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: as long as there is character development and the story
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: of Star Wars moves forward. Because here's the other thing
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: we made predictions of or I did I know you
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: were kind of hesitant for it, and we did crack
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: some jokes about Ezra. I thought that we were going
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: to lead some breadcrumbs to Ahsoka season two. None.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And see I didn't need that, like I.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Would have appreciated if it was one crumb something, because again,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: this is a felony loves to play in a sandbox.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: That sandbox is in a greater universe, and you are
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: playing in a story that is going forward. Okay, well,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: we know that your story has to end at some
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: point because that other story has already come and gone
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: in the timeline. So we're going to reach a certain
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: point where we have to hit that and like it,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Like this truly feels like the O, which I should
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: be excited about, but because again my Star Wars fandom
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: brain is just like, hey, where is all the lore,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Where's all the connection connective tissue? Like this is truly
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: a Star Wars movie that is outside of the sandbus
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: but also inside.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's very different from what we've experienced previously,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: but then also just kind of like it is a
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Star Wars story. I would also disagree with you on
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: the Star Wars story moving forward because I think this
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: explains why the huts aren't present in the sequel trilogy,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Like the huts are like completely demolished. Yeah, in this
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: and I specifically wrote down, I was like, which we
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: can continue to talk about this, or we can talk
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: about this later, but I was like, it would have
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: been too tropy for Roda to to go in and go,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: you know what, I'm staying here. I'm gonna rebuild the
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: huts in a great way. No, He's like, I'm done.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing any Yeah.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Right, So the.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Huts are in disarray, like all of the huts on now.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Hudda basically just got blown up.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they they which also I did not really think
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: about the Hut family literally being stationed all in one place. Uh,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I'll be completely honest. When when Mando just started to
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: like walk through that place and was looking left and
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: right and they were all just like chilling, I was like,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: what the world the entire clan is here? What's going on?
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Like, and there's huts other places probably, but this
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: is like the Hut royal family here.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Uh so okay eh, yeah, yeah I do want Because
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Greg is also asking about this, I did put his
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: comment saying how did Grogu move forward? So talking going
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: back to the non spoiler section where Katie said, oh,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: there's like a twenty minute section where my daughter could
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: possibly watch this. The moment where it's literally just Grogu
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: on screen for the majority of the time. Yea, there
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: is a good almost thirty minutes. I did time it
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: because I did actually put in my notes where every
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: episode would have started. Uh ah. So so there is
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: a scene where a or a large segment, like a
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: good twenty five to thirty minute segment of just Grogu
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: while Mando is down and out because of the poison,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: and during that time you see him be independent. This
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: is literally the very first time we have ever seen
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Grogu independent. There has been times where you see him
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: use his force powers by himself in the other seasons
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: of Mando, but it is out of desperation to help
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Mando these times that he was actually training, meditating, finding
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: for himself, and Mando was all on his own fruition.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: He was all doing it on his own, and that
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: shows growth that is important to him as a character.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Also No Order sixty six flashback.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: No Order sixty six flashback. So that was interesting because
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: I think the one place you could have put it
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: would have been like while he was meditating, But I
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: do think that would have taken away from the moment
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: of hey, we're kind of exploring in this direction. Greg says,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: did y'all notice the fisherman spoke like Yoda. I didn't
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: notice that.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: It was literally only one time he said it. The
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: very first time when he actually speaks, he is like
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: slingshotting that frog.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: He says something along the lines of something like oh,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: you're the one that stole my fish, I think, or
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: like again, words all mixed around like Yoda. But it
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: was only that one time, and I was like, oh,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: that's interesting. And then when he actually started talking to
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Grogu again, when they were actually like sitting down while
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Grogu was eating the fish, he was speaking in a
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: normal rhythmic.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: So it was very odd.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's probably why I didn't notice it, to
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: be honest, because both times I watched this, I jumped
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: when the frog eight Grogu. Oh oh. I was still
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: pumping down from the oh crap moment. So, uh, we'll
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: talk about the Anakin Grogu thing at the.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: End, yes, because I I do have a question for
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: the end of the entire conversation. But some things that
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I also wrote down here.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I agree with Sarah by the way that dragon Steak
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: was nightmare fuel.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: That is the beginning of the or that the episode
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: four ends with the reveal of the dragon sneak.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the giant pause right there. I did love that
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: fight though. That fight was so good.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Like I do appreciate, uh, the the choreography in this movie,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: just like I did, you know, throughout all of Mandalorian,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I think that the choreography has always been a really good,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: in stellar thing for the franchise.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: The one time I had an issue with the fight
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: choreography was with the Frisbee disc bounty Hunter Dude, I
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: can't even remember his name, ohel Bell MBO. Yeah, I
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: that choreography. Man. I was struggling with so much of
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: those fights.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: So Imbo's fight was where I didn't like the music.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: The music felt too modern. It felt not Star Wars.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: There was like this like it felt like genuinely when
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: listening to the music, it felt like, oh, this is
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: a boss fight. Here's the music in a boss fight
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: of a video game. So it took me out of
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: it a little bit.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: See, the music was the one thing that kept me
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: in it because I was like, this fight is just
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: too like one two three one two three one, there's
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: no fluidity.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Well, and that was that was one of the other
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: gripes that I had about the final act the third
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: act was the fact that this movie was kind of
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: formulaic in a hey, point A to point B to
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: point See, that's all good and dandy, but oh, here's
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: the final boss fight. Like there there, it was way
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: too simple. The moment Mando woke up, it was just like, hey,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: like guns blazeing, this is a shoot him up. Let's
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: just have fun with.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: The Especially, how did you feel about Mando's take in
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: the beginning, going back to the beginning, where he is like, yeah, man,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: fighting is a last resort, Like, yeah, I didn't know
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: how I felt about that, because everything he does is
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: fight basically.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. His character development is very odd when you consider
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: the other three seasons of his character. The ending of
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: season three, he is a father, you know, he is
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: taking care of Krogu, and then here he makes the
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: comment about fighting. But then he gets his ass kicked
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: and they purposely tell him, oh, I have shamed you
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: for all eternity because we got to see your face,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: and it triggers him. This man is an occult people.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: You need to understand that he got a little heated.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: He got a little heated because you know, they broke
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: a rule of his cult. And then he wanted to
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: go on a murder spree, like yeah, that's just the
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: way it is. But I like one thing that I
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: did not like in Mando's character, the heel comment that
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: he kept throwing at Krogon, And it was, yeah, because.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: He kept treating him like a dog basically, And I
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: don't know, like I kind of threw it off as
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: like a, Okay, he's just using basic commands to try
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: and like because he's still a kid at heart, right,
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: so like you tell your kid no, like they're not
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: going to listen, so you try to throw something else
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: out there that will force them to pay attention. And yes,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: and that was have a negative connotation, and.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I knew that somebody either in the chat or you
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: or somebody else would tried and and throw this at me.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: That is true, trust me. Amber Lynn gets farah as
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: hell sometimes and I'm just like, hey, hey, hey, you know,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: it's like taming an animal. I understand that. But with
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: the type of relationship that we saw at the very
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: end of season three going into this movie, and then
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: you see him make those choices and say those things,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: it just feels weird. But then of course you have but.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: That's also coming from you as a person who knows
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: that those are dog commands on Earth, like, yes, we've
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: never seen those used in Star Wars. Yes, true, it's
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: why they should have cut Croc who out.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Well, like, because here's the other thing. Here's the other thing,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Greg And I will say, I will say this the
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: the humor. One comment that I made on my notes
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: is Star Wars humor is Star Wars humor, and it's
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: here to stay. And I will say new, we're Star
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Wars humor because people say, oh, Star Wars has always
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: had humor. Yes, that humor has dramatically changed from the
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: original trilogy to the prequel trilogy, to the sequel trilogy
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: to now it is very new. But the moment all
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: of those charges were going off at the very beginning
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: of the movie and Grogu started to like tap on
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Maddow's helmet, I chuckled, it was funny. I'm okay with
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: grogu humor because he is nonverbal. He has to do
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: things to like get his like his his thoughts across,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: so that I actually really laughed at. I thought that
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: was genius. It was fun. The other like, and I
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: think a lot of Grogu's non verbal verbal things like
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: when he like screams when he jumps out of the frog.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I chuckled the humor of oh my gosh, the ship
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: that he had to ride in to go find Mando.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: What what is that species? Yes, the end zelens that
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: that ship is hilarious. The fact that you see it
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: flight into space and you're like, that's a huge ship,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: and then you actually see them inside the cockpit and
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: they're all just like squashed hilarious. I think it's very
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: funny humor.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: And it was to show too that while Grogu has
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: matured to an extent where he can handle some of
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: these things, if he'd really thought about it, he would
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: have realized, hey, we need to take we need to
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: take our ship because he's not going to be able
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: to fit in this ship.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: So yeah, comment overall for the for the action, and
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I want to.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Know if this is a wait before you jump into
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: that because I cut out. I am having a storm
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: right now, guys, So I'm kind of cutting in and
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: out sometimes, So I do apologize about that.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: I am seeing your comments on the side, so you
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: should be good to go.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, cool, I'm trying to mark them for you.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I also want to acknowledge the chat here
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: for a second. That guy be saying I just saw
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: them as simple commands for a quick course of course
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: correction as far as grogu and then Greg saying I've
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: got a bad feeling about this. Uh, to blue cookies
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: is a long stretch? Did that? That line is famously
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: in every Star Wars project. I didn't hear it was
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: that line in the movie. No, I don't mean so,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: I don't remember it being in the movie because I
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: always I always make the comment like whenever it shows up,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: I always write it down. It's like, oh there, it's
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: it is like the it needs to be in there.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Oh just meant in humor. In humor, yeah, uh. And
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: I think that's because people right now especially want to
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: be able to laugh very easily at things with just
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: the way the world is right now. So I don't
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: mind that there's extra humor involved in things the well,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: what are you waiting for? Come on, hop on to
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: the blue cookies, Like okay, we're saving the rest of
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: these for dinner.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: Like grow the Force push, Yeah, the the I caggled
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: every helmet, cave the cave, it.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Got, It got everybody in my theater it got me
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: the first time, it didn't get me the second time,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: but it got everybody help.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Like I remember that growing up where you're like, Okay,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: if I just shove it a little harder, it'll go
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: in there and it'll fit. Like so I totally related that,
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: And maybe that's just me as the older child who
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: just wanted to not do anything. It just was like, Okay,
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: we're all gonna shove it at the closet.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: So I I got two questions for you. Okay, first question,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: and this might be a hot take, so I don't
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: know how the chat is going to feel about this.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I made the comment all of the action felt like fluff.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: Like the only action for me that felt necessary and
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I put necessary in quotes is the stadium fight. The
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: stadium fight, not what happens after in the city stadium fight,
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: then the extraction of coin, and then the firefight at
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: the third act, not the firefight that takes place in
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: the extraction of Coin.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: I just I just loved it. I loved all the
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: action pieces except for the inbo fight. I And again,
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: like I feel like with a family fund adventure, especially nowadays,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: is going to be those fight sequences that happen. So
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: are they fluff? Is the entire movie fluff?
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Like yes, question mark yes? So so that is more
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: of just like a hey, you know whatever question. My
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: second question, how do the twins know Grogu's name?
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: Did they say his name?
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Yes? And I have a theory which makes it a
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: little bit more fun, but also it doesn't make it
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make it fun anymore because they're dead now. See.
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: This is also why I was like, it moves the
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: story forward because they specifically state your little green friend,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: so they called him forever.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: They they say little green friend, and then they say
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: they say his name, they say Grogu. Okay, they say Grogu.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: Does this imply that the Huts were involved in the
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: stealing of Grogu?
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Do you Yeah? I could totally see that because.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: I have built it more so in my second viewing.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: My first viewing, I was like, okay, how do they
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: know his name? And then the second time I watched it,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh shit, because the comment is, oh,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: huts live for a very long time, so does your
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: little green friend. Grogu will live on forever and you
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: will die, And I was like, holy shit, hold on, Yeah,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: there is a good chance this means that the Huts
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: were involved in the relocating of Grogu during the time.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: I can totally see that back and everything.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: Else, because especially in the legends, like the syndicates and
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: stuff all helped like the Jedi, like you like that
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: was like the underground for Jedi kind of thing was
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: to like help them get away and stuff. So I
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: feel like the Huts being involved somehow in Grogu like
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: trying to escape and then turning him over to the Empire,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I think that's fully legit. Yeah, Greg Gregor grees.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: And Greg says it's I think it's to imply how
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: much the Huts now And this is in the same
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: space of what my theory was, because like even if
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: they weren't involved, they have ears everywhere, you know. Yeah,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: And so I think that is very very.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Fun because I think while Felony and Favro have chosen
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: to leave the species of Grogu and Yoda like unknown,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: and like originally people were like, oh, okay, so we're
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: going to return him to his home planet with his
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: own species was the goal, and then kind of sovic
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: and it's like, oh, return them to the Jedi. Like
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: I still think people are curious, like what is the species,
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: like where are they from? Like, and maybe not the
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: general audience, but I think Star Wars fandom people are like, yeah,
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: but I want to know more, like why has every
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: member of Yoda's species that we've seen been for sensitive.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: One thing that we haven't talked about, which is actually
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: plays a small part in the plot of the movie,
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: a little bit more of a plot device, the return
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: of the star Crest. How did you feel about It's
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: not the star Crest, but it's a star Crest with
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: modifications that immediately rip apart, He asked zeb to rip apart?
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about it?
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: It wasn't modified already, it was stock ed, so he
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: was trying to get around.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And also, there is a Marvel Easter Egg in
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: this movie. Oh and I don't think I don't think
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: anybody caught it because there is a long list of
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Easter eggs that I have seen multiple accounts online talk
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: about in articles, and nobody has mentioned the one Easter
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: egg that I clear as Crystal saw on both viewings.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: Accually star Wars Easter egg too. Yeah, that's there's a
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: lot of Star Wars Easter eggs.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: There is a lot of Star Wars easter eggs, but
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: there is there is one Marvel because it of course
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: has to deal with John Bavreau. When Man and Grogu
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: are modifying the Star Crest, Grow helps Mando grab something
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: from the top of the star Crest and when he
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: throws it to him, it's Tony Stark's proof of a heart.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: He he throws it to him and it like it's
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: a blink and you miss it moment, but you can
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: literally see the circle of the Oh crap, what is
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: the thing called in the arc reactor? The arc reactor.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: You can literally see the circle of the Arc reactor
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: and you can literally see the wording kay proof of
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Tony Stark's Heart. But again, it is such a blink
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: and you missed it, And of course they shrunk it
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: because of how small it needs to be compared to
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Grogu and Mando for a small piece on the ship.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: He just tosses it to him really quick.
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: I thought it looked like an arc reactor. I didn't
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: see the words, but I'm also blind even with my contacts, so.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's a it's a very very quick blink
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: and you miss it. Easter egg, which I thought was
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: really really cool. So I'm trying to think of anything
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: specific because again, there's the one last question that I
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: want to ask you, but I don't know if we're there.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Dajarek battle. Uh, yes, yes, I liked
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: how that played into things. I wouldn't necessarily consider that
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: an Easter egg. Maybe that's just me though, because it
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: plays the main part. It's not like in the background.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: I always consider Easter eggs to be like in the well.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: More so it's an Easter egg because a lot of
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: people don't know what Dajark is and we've only really
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: seen it as a uh hologram board game, and so
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: seeing it in real life could be a little bit
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: of an Easter Egg. So I thought that was cool.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Where did that cut out?
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: I a little glitch in your in your camera? Uh,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: maybe less than two minutes ago.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Well what was I saying when I cut out?
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Uh? You were saying that you did not see that
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: as a like Easter egg because it's like a plot device. Yeah.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: I always consider Easter ags to be like in the
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: background of things. Yes, So that's that's my opinion. Though,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: if you want to consider any strig, I think that's fine. Sorry, guys,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: this is I don't know why.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: So did you not hear anything of that? I said, no,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, Okay, So what I was saying was that
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: it may be considered a Easter Egg because the only
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: place we have seen it as a general audience is
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: the fact that it's a hologram board game and we
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: actually got to see it in live action. So that
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: might be why it's a little bit of an Easter Egg. Yeah, so, uh,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: there's that. There was also oh shoot, what was the
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: other Easter Egg that there was quite a a well,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: it's not an Easter Egg. They brought back the classic
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I can bring you hot, I Can bring you in cold. Yeah,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: didn't really hit his is hard that as I wanted
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: it to, and it did feel like, hey, we just
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: have to throw this in here because it is Mando. Yeah,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: but it does play off of, of course, what zeb
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: says in the very beginning of the movie. Hey, if
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: you bring them in a live it's a lot easier
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: to question them, you know. Yeah, so I can I
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: can understand like, hey, he's now giving them a fair warning.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: That's cool.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Craig says first line of the series.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Right, yep, very first line of the series.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: So going back to the beginning of the film, because
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: this was also something different than the film shows to
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: do the opening credits. We've never seen actors credited at
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: the beginning of a Star Wars movie before, and like, no,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: we had, like Matt called it the top gun credits
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: with all of the ships coming in and like, yeah,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: Alfi and stuff. That did bug me. I think it
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: just goes to show that it's also different too.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I like they truly treated this as a non
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: a non Star Wars movie within the Star Wars universe,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: which I think will help it a little bit, but
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: it will also I think again to shoot them in
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: a foot just a little bit. Yeah, so we'll see
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: how it goes. I do want to go ahead in
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: and because I did write them all, I do want
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: to write or say. The first episode would have ended
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: when Mando is knocked out in the attempt to convince
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Roda to leave.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Why didn't he pressurize his helmet?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: I I don't know. I don't know. That's when the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: first episode would have ended. Second episode would have ended
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: when Mando, Roda, and zeb are looking at Coin's estate.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: The third episode would have ended when Roda gets picked
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: up by the gun Runner at Mando's house. Fourth episode
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: would have ended with the reveal of the dragon snake.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Fifth episode ends with Mando waking up and the reveal
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: of the gun Runner ship with Grogu.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: The gun runnership felt too overgrown.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: By the way, Yes, when when you see him walking
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: up the ramp and you just see all of the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: vine just like just completely surrounding, I was like, nah,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: it's literally been two days, like chill out now. The
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: only way I could say maybe is because of the
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: reaction of the bugs. Yeah, you know, it felt more
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: so that like that forest was alive, like my god.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I thought the bugs were all coming to
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: help Grogu, like get Mando to him, like Grogu had
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: actually summoned the bugs. The third jump scare. So the
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: first was like the rat, the second, yeah, the bugs
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: or no. The second was no, the second was the bugs,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: and then the third was the frog. So like, and
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: there was a guy in my theater this afternoon who
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: also jumped, so that made me feel a little bit better.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: It was like, holy crap, that so loud loud.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: But I also saw this only as a six episode
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: season because the fifth episode ends with of course Amanda
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: waking up, uh and the real of the gun runnership,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: and then the entire last thirty minutes of the film
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: would be the finale.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: That's too long. That's too long fight episode of Men Laurin.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: You know you gotta be twenty three minutes.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Well that's that's my literal comment. Right after season or
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: season finale is every episode will probably have to be
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: cropped at least five minutes. So uh, breakdowns check out
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: good call. Yeah, Like I legit because again when my
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: first the first viewing on Thursday, I was like, this
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: just felt like the show, and I was like, if
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: I can break it down, I was like, I don't
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: know if I could break it down to eight episodes,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: because the episodes would be too short if it was eight,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: So let's do six. And so when I checked out everything,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, this feels right, this feels like everything.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Because again, when it comes to your twenty three minutes,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: you also have to include the intro and then credits
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: for each episode. So that's why I was able to
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: play around with a little bit of where each episode
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: would have started and ended. The other notes that I
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: have here, there's some nitpicky stuff. I felt like there
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: was inconsistencies with the water depth when dealing with Mando
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: in the pit. That was annoying to me that there
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: were some parts that were really shallow and then some
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: parts that were very deep.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: I see, but I think that's like all lakes though.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Have you ever swam in a lake?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Uh when I was a kid not.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: There's like really deep parts and then there's shallow parts,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: and it just all kind of depends. Like my dad's
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: boat had a censor.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: On it for well, for the depth water depth. Yeah, okay,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: uh okay. So so I saw Craig, I saw Greg
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: mention this before, and so he's bringing it up again.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Force healing. As soon as the first frame showed Mando's wound,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: I immediately thought force healing.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: But they didn't cheat with that because he healed them,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: but then he still couldn't heal the poison.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Because he And that is and that is why I
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: will disagree with with Greg, because the only time we
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: see the force healing is with Grogu as of right now,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: other than of course, with Ray and Rise of Skywalker.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: But it was literally two times with Grogu. It was
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: season one of Mandalorian Grogu and now season four slash
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: the movie and that's the only time, so I can't
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: say that they are leaning on that gimmick quote unquote.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: But doesn't force healing feel like cheating? I don't think.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: Like you can't say that for a force user because
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: then you would say, oh, using the forces cheating.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I feel like in any magic system, you
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: have a healer who can heal people faster, and so
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, other systems do it,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: and so they kind of just said, Okay, you know what,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: if other people can do it, why not I think Greg,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: I think the problem so Greg says a thousand years
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: of Jedi, but and nobody but Ray and Grogu can
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: do it. I think A Obviously your problem is it
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: wasn't introduced until Mandalorian B. I think that you just
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: haven't seen a story deep enough to get it there,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: because I do feel like it was used in the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: High Republic to some extent.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, and that's that's why I wanted to use
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: a small little correction in your verbiage of being introduced.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Force healing in Cannon has not been visually introduced until
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: grow Goo. There has been force healing in books, in
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: video games and a lot of other Star Wars French
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: or Star Wars pieces of ip.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: Or or or.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Is that the right phrasing either way? But we've seen
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: force healing before, but in Star Wars canon didn't really
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: become a thing until Grogu. I think it is is
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: it a poor way of like? Just honestly what it is, Greg,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: It is a hey like because we haven't been pushing
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: out all of the Star Wars content. This is where
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: you're gonna see it, because I believe if there was
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: more Star Wars content, you would probably see a lot
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: more of it. And who's to say that in the
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: next trilogy or whatever they decide to do for the
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: episodic movies for Star Wars, if they decided to come
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: back with episodic titles. Is because the assumption is that
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: there's going to be a whole new Council, there's going
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: to be a resurgence of the Jedi and everything else.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe we will see a lot more of it, but
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: until then, these are your moments that you do see it.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: So and Greg, I think a lot. I don't know
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: if you've read any of the New Republic forward Star
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: Wars books and the Legends collection, But there's a lot
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: of force healing in Legends, like we would just on
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: our Patreon we just did Starbuys Star Review, which is
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: a part of the New Jedi Order, which there's a
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: specific Force healer set along open people up and use
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: the force to heal their organs and stuff. So there's
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: a Legends connection there. I don't know if a lot
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: of Old Republic stuff has it. I read it, I
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: don't really remember a whole lot Besides Bain, I don't
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: think Bain had force healing. Cain like came.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe force healing was more of in the Old Republic,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: especially with the Knights of the Old Public video game,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: Force healing was seen more so as a Jedi power
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: when they separate. You know how we talked about in
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: our Patreon conversations about what is seen as a dark
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: side power versus a light side power. Force healing was
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: more seen more as a light side power, and so.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Greg, I couldn't remember if you read High Republic, which
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: is why I was referencing Legends, because I feel like
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: most of the force healing in Cannon books right now
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: is in the Higher Republic, simply because we haven't had
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of Jedi books otherwise, because like you have
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: like some of like the like Brotherhood and Padawan, but
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think they were ever trained in that, especially
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: olbi Wan to really use that, So I don't think
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: like prequel era of books would have it, so High
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: Republic would really be your only canon reference, I feel like,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: and then the New Republic books in Legends, so you
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: would have like Luke with his Jedi Academy, and then
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: the New Jedi Order and moving forward past that, like
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: you got full blown like force trances where people could
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: go in and force heal their own bodies if they
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: were in the trance long enough.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I'm trying to think of something else here.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Do you have any other points on your notes that
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: you would like to bring up.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: I really think zeb looks very good in the movie.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: I appreciate his CGI and mocap because the way it's
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: a very subtle thing, but even the way he walks
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: is almost identical hole to the way he walks in
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: the anime in the animated arms Bounce and everything, it
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: looked really really good.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: And his uh cultural staff weapon love that. I loved
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: Roda and Grogu's relationship.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, and I thought that was So does this mean
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: that that grogu' is just going to grow up to
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: be like this huge stacked individuals He now thinks of
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Rooda as a as a role model. It's like, that's
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: who I want to be when I grow up.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: Every time I looked at Rooda, I did appreciate how
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: much emotion was in Rooda's face, Like you got a
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: lot of emotion in Rhoda's face. But every time I
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: looked at him, I just see my nephew walking around
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: like this.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: Well okay, And also I think that Disney and Lucasfilm
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: did a really poor job in marketing with Roda. Yeah,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think they should have showed him the beginning
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: of the movie when the twins say, oh, this is
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: the only photo we have of him, and they show
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: a literal baby like okay, cool. But then of course
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: you also see when they're actually on the moon and
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: you see the poster of Roda, like yeah, I also
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: think that shouldn't have been a thing. The very first
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: time you see Roda should be like a oh my god,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: like that's Roda. Like that's how I feel like they
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: should have approached it. Yeah, but I do also like
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: the I liked Rooda as a character. I liked him development,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: the the growth of Rogu considering how he was when
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: he was rising up that rhino looking alien in season
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: one compared to him rising folda at the very end
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: of this movie. A lot of growth there. I really
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: And uhh, I thought there was a lot of inconsistencies
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: with Mendo coming in, Like there were some scenes like
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: maybe cut together because for instance, I don't I think
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: he loses his cloak in the pit with the dragon
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: snake because he's running through the forest and there's no cloak. Yes,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: And as soon as he gets to the enzell and
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: ship drops, Grogu off turns around, he's got a nice
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: dry cloak, like flowing in the wind. He also got
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: his blaster back after he was poisoned.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know how I have the same thing
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: written down.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: And people could be like, oh, well, maybe he just
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: picked it up.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Does because because here's the thing he puts it back
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: in its holster when he's right there next to where
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: he woke up. He does like because you because there
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: could also be an argument of like, oh it was
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: on the gun runnership along with the sniper rifle that
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: he used to have. Yeah, I liked it too. I
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: thought that was a really nice callback. But you you
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: never see him pick up a pistol in the gun Runnership.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: You see him put it in his holster when right
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: before he tells grogu, oh, the old take care of
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: the young, and the young take care of the old.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: This is the way. Like that. That's when you see
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: him put it back in his holster.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: So Greg says, he picks it up from majority he killed.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: He so the droid he killed he picks up like
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: a standard like storm trooper pistol. He doesn't pick up
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: his pistol.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, his specific pistol.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, I've colored enough of the Mandalorian's
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: pistols in this coloring book that I read that it
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: was his pistol.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: I have it right here, but it's out of arms reach.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: I can't reach.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: Oh. Mars Mara finally saw it, apparently while I was
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: gone at the movies. She was like, c O, I oh,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: the last thing. Uh yeah, the last thing. I love
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: that Carshian Neva did get to make an appearance. I
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: was worried he wasn't going to make an appearance Paul Paul.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I can't rememberse full name. I assume
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: he wasn't in more of the movie because he was
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: filming the Avatar Show. Yes, so the fact that he
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: got to get in at the last dogfight, I.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Imagine what this movie would have been like if we
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: had gotten Starfighter. Yeah, you know, which also has brings
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: back my comment or not brings back, but I'm gonna
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: go ahead and bring it up now. Sigourney Weaver. She
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: talked about her she got a fat paycheck for quite
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: possibly the easiest job ever. She had a total of
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: five lines. Maybe it felt like five lines. That was it.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: Like she did the least amount of work and probably
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: got paid the most.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: Like like that, f was she there? I find that
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: to swear in this one, guys.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: But well, because because here's the here's the thing. The
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: reason do you know why she's agent. The reason why
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: she is there is because Carl Weathers passed away. That
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: is one hundred the reason why I could see that.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: Now I could look at the timeline to see if
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: she was hired before or after. Uh, but that genuinely
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: feels like the reason.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: Well, and they also probably because Carson Neva's Carson Tiva.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, I don't know why he was saying. I
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: was saying Carson Neva point blank. I don't think like
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: they probably were just like, oh, yeah, Paul's not Paul.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: I'm looking up the full name Paul Son hung Lee.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: Is probably not popular enough to put do the role
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: in a movie because that's what he was doing in
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: the show, and he should have been.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: Able to.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: Have that. Yes, thank you, because I saw somebody who
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, there's society if you translated it says
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 3: Weather's apollo, And I'm like, why would I have to
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: do that? Like could we not reference him?
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Like well, because I legit I wanted there to be
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: a in memory of Carl weathers yeah, within the first
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: few minutes of the credits, and there wasn't. And I
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: was like, wow, that's pretty shitty. And for the fact
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: that they just did a small little homage to him
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: feels really crappy. Uh, But I know that a is
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: exact quote is most exposition character And for what a
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: waste I literally have in my notes Sgourney Weaver and
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: in parentheses I say waste of talent. They're like, I understand,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: she is a name. She's gonna put butts in seats.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: But like, people are going to feel really crappy if
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: they're like, oh, Sigourney Weaver's in this movie and then
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: they get out of the movie and they're like, oh,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't see Sigourney Weaver in this movie, you know,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: like it just it felt so unnecessary, and I'm like
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: again talking about the uh the feminist test. It literally
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: felt like, oh, I think we should put a woman
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: in this movie. Yeah, that's the only reason I have
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: met the man. I am newly black. I am grossed out. Sorry, No,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: like I I understand, I understand. He says, it feels
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: like we missed the New Republic Pilot movie.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: Well, and that's why I said, like, this movie would
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: be a completely different movie if we in Rogue Squadron,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 5: if we had gotten Rogue Squadron or Starfighter either, or
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: if we had gotten either of them, I think this
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: movie would have been completely different.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it doesn't like you have like this whole team,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: and it just feels like something's missing, especially for those
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: of us who know, like, Okay, this is where we
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: left off at and now all of a sudden, we're
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: here and we goods up. Yay, I'm glad you had fun, Adrian.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: We we can be critical, it also has still have fun. Yes,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: like again, because one of the critical things that I
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: had to say about this was Favreau and Feloni got
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: all of their Star Wars friends and made a movie
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: that's all this is basically yeah, And is that a
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: compliment or a backhanded compliment? I think it's kind of
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: both because the man Filoni cannot help himself. He has
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: to put himself in every single season of Manalorian Grogu
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: and like just the one shot of him in the bar,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: I kind of rolled my eyes at it. I was like, why,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: like you, and again, it's only probably gonna bother the
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: people who know who he is, right, like, nobody else
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: is gonna know who he is. But when you see him,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: it's just like, Okay, Dave, like we get it. You
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: made you helped make this character cool. Like let's move on. Hey,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: here's Dave twice with the.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Only black character on the screen having two lines. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: the representation, the alien part. I was happy with everything else.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: I was like, it is a small cast, like it
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 3: is a small main cast, so there's not a whole
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 3: lot you can do with already established characters that you have,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: But that means when you bring in other characters to
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: play a role in this that those characters need to
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: have some impact and make things work to accurately represent
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: people put money. He doested terrible in the New Republic
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: pilot movie every Pilot basically except Paul some.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: It.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Paul Lee is a director, Like.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and and the thing is like, there could
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: have been a lot more representation, Like the muscle for
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: coin could have easily been a woman. M hm, Like
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: that's okay, guys, we can make women have muscle. I'm sorry, Like.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially considering that the god was in was an alien,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: So you can't tell me that you couldn't have put
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: like a mega buff alien lady in there.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: Like exactly. And so like I'm okay with the bad
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: guy being a bald white dude because that's just the
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: world right now. So it's just like, oh, you know,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: we can all relate to this one. But yeah, it's
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: it's this movie was fun. We can be critical about it.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: I think that overall, as long as you're not trying
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: to go into this movie saying, hey, I'm gonna be
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: critical of everything in this movie to see if it's
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: the best Star Wars movie ever, Like, yeah, you're you're
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: going to come out disappointed. It is not the best
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: Star Wars movie in exist sense. Yeah, I think that
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: the the the pool quote that I shared Katie the
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: other day, the uh what it attempts to be a
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Star Wars movie, I think that is a little harsh.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: Now watching this movie twice now, I think.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: That definitely a Star Wars movie. It's not one that
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: moves like, like you said, moves the needle forward. It's
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: it's not one that moves the needle forward in terms
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: of like a gigantic move like it really makes the
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: most sense as a here's a tiny snippet of the
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: Star Wars galaxy and what's happening in it at this moment,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: like we are in Star Wars. This is a Star
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: Wars movie, but it doesn't have to do big things.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: So yeah, but my last question to you, Katie, My
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: last question to you, is this the end of Mando.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is the end of Grogu. Is
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: this the end of Mando?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so. Adrian. I'm
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: gonna have to get with you on this because I
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: have not played Outlaws and I have not watched the
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: credits sequences.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: I still need to play the game.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 3: He's a Outlaws fans were eating and Yeah, we talked
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: about this at the beginning. It's a Star Wars story,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: same way Solo was. It's a tiny snippet where it
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: can be a one off and you can have blast
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: with it, and that's all you need at the end
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: of the day.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So you don't think that it is the end
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: of Mando. No.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: I think Pedro Pascal is Uh is too popular and
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: there will be some way, shape or form that Uh,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: Filoni and Fabreau find ways to bring him back into
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: the fold of things. So before we get to Greg's
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: one off question, that's kind of related, but like, I'm
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: not gonna ask you what you would rate this movie.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: But we have rated our Star Wars movie, or we
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: have ranked our Star Wars movies. There's twelve Star Wars movies.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: Now with this, I'm not gonna ask you where it
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: falls precisely in that list, because I don't even know
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: where it falls precisely in that list.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go back to that episode to
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: listen to what my list was.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 3: I basically do a new one every single time.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: Every single time. Yeah, so hang on listening there with
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: this fall.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: In, I'm not gonna say one to six because I
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: feel like one to six is not gonna happen with
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: this fall six to nine or nine to twelve.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the list of Star Wars movies and
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: it's hilarious because they add literally every single one, including
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: the lego ones that you walk on. Oh, that's hilarious.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: This.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: So, now that there's twelve, you're saying, hey, is it
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: above the line or below the line?
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: I would say one to six to six to twelve,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: and I'm hitting six to twelve for sure.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: I might be right there in between because I think
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: that there is such because of how we just love
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: Star Wars. I think that the top six are so good,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: and I'm not gonna say the bottom six are so polarizing,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: but they are still good movies. You know, they're still
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: Star Wars movies. At the end of the day, I'm
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: going to say that it is anywhere between. I'm gonna
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: say four to seven between there. Okay, I'm gonna say
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: between four and seven. Again, I'll need to do another
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: last and leave Mando out to really see where it
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: can fit.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I would say I'm probably like five to
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: eight range, because again, I do enjoy a movie where
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: I can just jump in and watch one. That's why
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: Solo rinks so high for me. So also, I think
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: I did not count a clone war story, so it
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: would be thirteen movies.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say it would have It would have
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: to be thirteen because you can't leave out the movie
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: that introduces Rhoda.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: No, you're right, I definitely cannot, and that is my fault.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: It totally failed and it.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: Did hit theaters. That's also another it did hit theaters.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but guys, I think that concludes, uh, the discussion
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  Speaker 3: of the review portion of the movie, Clay, unless you
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  Speaker 3: had anything else.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you said that we were going to talk about something.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yes, I was just like, this is the end
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  Speaker 3: of the review portion.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Greg brought up a question. I'm gonna scroll up. Where's
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: the question?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: So he said, I have to ask about Grogu. Y'all
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  Speaker 3: may have talked about this before, but do you think
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 3: they're trying to play anything about Grogu and Anakin being
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  Speaker 3: born the same year having to do with the few.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: If so, doesn't that solely Anakin's reduption art? I don't
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  Speaker 3: think so, because honestly, I hadn't even put together that
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: they were born in the same year, because I think
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, people are born on
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 3: the same day every single year. Oh I may have
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: gone out again.
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  Speaker 2: No no, no, no no, I'm trying to do the
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: math here in my head.
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  Speaker 3: So they're both forty one Bby, I've got it pulled
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  Speaker 3: up on. If anything, this movie makes what Anakin did
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  Speaker 3: worse because.
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  Speaker 2: Of what he did. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. So they were both born in forty
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  Speaker 3: one Bby. To me, I think people are born on
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: the same day every single year. Like I don't think
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: that to me. Also, I have issues with the fact
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: that Anakin was redeemed, but that that's not the topic
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: for here to the Day.
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  Speaker 2: So here's here's here's the thing that I'm gonna say,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: because again we we referenced it last episode, and I'm
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: going to reference this episode. Freddy Prince Junior his rant
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: that podcast I go back to every single time somebody
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: has an issue with the way Star Wars ends up going. Yeah,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: he references, Hey, I know this because Dave Filoni told me,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: and Dave or because George Lucas told him. The way
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: that these move and this story of Star Wars fluctuates
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: is due to the literal fight between good and evil
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: and how it all needs to work in balance. The
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: Force is a living thing in canon that literally can
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: course correct if need be. When showing things like Anakin
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: his turned to the dark side, Luke and Leyhan, all
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: of these other things, other factors you also have to
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: put into consideration. Okay, is the Force going to have
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: a Plan D? Yes, that Plan D is Grogun. That
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that Anakin's redemption arc is Nolan void. It
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that he is any less of a character.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean all of the other movies don't make
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: any sense because now Grogu is the savior of the galaxy.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: Like that is not true whatsoever. You need to literally
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: just look at what the in story cannon is for
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: the literal force. The Force course corrects to keep balance
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: within the universe. Grogu is helping keep that balance.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: One hundred and I always like to go back to
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: Captain Cold in the Flash when talking about anything related
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: to the future and then make a plan. Forget the plan,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: screw up the plan, do something else.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: Throw away the plan, make a new plan. Yeah yeah, yeah, and.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: That's basically what the Force did in this case. It
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: was like, hey, we have this, but we also have this,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: but we also have this. I think that's how life works.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and and and it's a good reference point.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: And again, guys, if you have not ever heard Fray
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: Prince Junior's uh, make lacks, then make them siblings. It's
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: it's all, it's it's all a part of the plan. Okay,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: it's all a part of the plan. Uh.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: But you know what Lucas says is gold of course.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that that's that's ultimately it. Again, guys, you
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: guys can form your own opinions about these movies. You
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: can agree with us, you can disagree with us. We
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: would like to hear you either way, whether you agreed
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: with us, whether you didn't, whether you caught a certain
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: easter egg that we did not talk about. This movie
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: was fun in a way that was meant to be, Like,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say Fast and Furious fun, because I
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: think those movies are stupid and ridiculous and people love them.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: I will never agree with anybody with with that franchise.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: This movie is watchable, okay, And I think that's okay.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: I think that is okay. We have said this many
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: many times. Not every single movie when it comes to
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: Star Wars needs.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: To be don't get him started, Adrian.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: Fast is better than this. I will come home and
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: show you the way that the so so there's a
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: long conversation about it, but maybe some other time I
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: will bring everybody up to speed. But there was once
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: a time in the gua Chat that we all had
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: a discussion about popcorn movies and what that means. Oh,
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: it's just a popcorn movie. It's just a popcorn movie.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: And when I finally asked, hey, what the hell does
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: that even mean, They're like, oh, you just turn off
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: your brain and watch it. I'm like, you literally can't
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: do that. You literally this is just me and my
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: ADHD brain like saying, can't compute. Can't compute. You literally
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: cannot turn off your brain and then watch something. It
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: makes literally no sense. So that's why whenever I bring
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: up the Fast and Furious franchise, like everybody in the
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: Guachat just laughs. But when it comes to Star Wars
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: and the franchise within itself. Like some movies okay are
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: okay with just being okay, and this was one of
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: those movies. Now, when you want to be more critical
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: about it, is this the perfect movie? No, it is not.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: It has it has its flaws. It is definitely not
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: the Last Jedi. I'll say that as my favorite. It
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: is definitely not the last Jedi. But it's definitely not
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: Attack of the Clones.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: You know, yeah, so hi, Wait a second, don't we
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 3: hate non Attack the Clones.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: It is out of the episodics. The It is literally
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: number one when it comes to episodic movies, literally number one.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: The Phantom Menace is better than the Tag Clones. I
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: don't care what anybody says.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: Booo.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: So again, if you would like to share your opinions,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: of course, you can always uh contact us on Instagram, threads,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: and Blue Sky. Of course, you can always find me
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: at fanboy Clay on Instagram and threads. We're gonna be
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: posting there a whole lot more, so you know, get
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: in contact us there, and we also have a Gmail
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: account if you are more of a email individual. It
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: is at Star Wars without an a in the war
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: is very important don't forget it and shoot us an
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: email and we can you know, discuss it there and
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: give us some sort of username or something to call
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: you out so that way we know who we're talking
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: to in all of that. So Katie, what about you, y'all?
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: You can find me on most social media problems at
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: Slice of Katie. Like Clay said, shoot us an email
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: or DM on Gmail, Instagram threads or blue Sky. We
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: are off next week, but we will be back the
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: following week. So once again, that's off on the twenty seventh,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: So no episode on the twenty eighth unless Clay decides
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: be nice and give you guys a Patreon episode. That's
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 3: up to him though, And the June third, guys, we
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: will be back. We'll be talking all things about the
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: box office and any discussion points that you guys give
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: us about the movie that you guys want to talk about,
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 3: sharing your thoughts, questions, whole shabang. I think we also
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: have a comic review scheduled for that day.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: I believe.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: So yeah, Adrian says, glad I caught y'all needed to
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: see y'all before my hip surgery. We wish you good luck, Adrian.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 3: I'm i don't want that surgery for myself. They have
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: recommended it, so I don't envy you at all. Oh,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: she's the best of luck and happy healing.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, send us, send us a d M so we
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: can we can schedule something before that surgery of yours.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. So with that, guys, I want to
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: wish everyone day or night, whatever time a day you
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 3: are listening or watching. Oh, thanks everybody for being here
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 3: in the chat. Greg, also that guy be Yes and Adrian.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: Thanks guys for being in the chat. This was fun.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: It has been six.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: Years in the making, so yes, so happy.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 3: May the Force be with you. I gotta start over
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: now because other ones will screw it up with that
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 3: like sal Grade day or nights, whatever time of day
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: you're listening or watching, and we will see you next time.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: May the Force be with you.