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OneLegUpAlex Sports- Jordan Beaudoin of Enforce The Sport and ONNJ Helps Us Have One Leg Up on the Big Game (recorded 2-5-26) · OneLegUpAlex Media

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  Speaker 1: Day.
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  Speaker 2: Hi everyone, It's Alex Starrett, host of One Look Up
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  Speaker 2: with Alex Garrett aka One Look Up. Alex. Excited to
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  Speaker 2: have you for a year thirteen of this podcast. We've
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  Speaker 2: gotten through twelve amazing years thanks to you. Here's to
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  Speaker 2: Lucky thirteen. All right, Well, I talked with Caleb about
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  Speaker 2: the Giants two Super Bowl wins earlier this week. Now
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  Speaker 2: to round out the week, I've got Jordan Baudoin of
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  Speaker 2: on In Jay and so much more. Jordan, first of all,
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  Speaker 2: thanks for joining Jordan, Thanks for joining my podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I am so happy to be here and
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  Speaker 1: to talk with you today.
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  Speaker 2: Now, where exactly are you right Nowaday? I know it's
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  Speaker 2: in forced the sport, but you still work for ON
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  Speaker 2: and J as well.
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  Speaker 1: I do a little bit of both. I actually bounce
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  Speaker 1: back and forth between the two.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's awesome to have you on. And I just
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  Speaker 2: met your colleague John at the other day at Pinstripe Pride,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just it's a great network you guys got
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  Speaker 2: going on over there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we we really know how to you know,
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  Speaker 1: talk and come up with story ideas. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't talked to her in a in a hot minute.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, we do a lot of we do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of writing when it comes to like Philly
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  Speaker 1: stuff and all kinds of other stuff. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: know I kind of enjoy doing that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, then let me ask you that. Firstly, how is
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  Speaker 2: it to be a giant fan in South Jersey slash
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  Speaker 2: you know, Philly where everybody's pretty much ego as I
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  Speaker 2: imagine your neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of fun to be different. I
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  Speaker 1: mean the people around me, they're all Yankees fans and
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  Speaker 1: all that other stuff, and you know, I'm actually really
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  Speaker 1: enjoying it.
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  Speaker 2: Now, does that mean you're a Philly Philly girl? Like?
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  Speaker 2: Are you an a Phillies fan or a Yankee fan?
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  Speaker 1: I am a Phillies fan, I do not. I am
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  Speaker 1: not a fan of the Yankees. I will watch them,
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  Speaker 1: I will pretty much. I will watch whatever sport is
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  Speaker 1: in front of me. Let me put it that way.
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  Speaker 1: But that's kind of been my whole life is pretty
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  Speaker 1: much aways it's been about sports.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you if there was ever a second
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  Speaker 2: city I moved to, it's Philly. I just feel like
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  Speaker 2: a home there because I love going to see the
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  Speaker 2: historical I mean America two fifty. You can't be being
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  Speaker 2: in Philly for that, so it'll be an exciting year
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  Speaker 2: for sure. But let's get to the tasking hand, which
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  Speaker 2: is Super Bowl Week and the last couple days with
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  Speaker 2: an honorary anniversaries including the GIANTSH eight win and of
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  Speaker 2: course the twenty twelve when now, which one do you
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  Speaker 2: remember most? Do you remember them both vividly? Like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: were those Super Bowls where your fandom for the Giants started?
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  Speaker 1: Actually, my fandom for the Giants started actually before I
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  Speaker 1: was born. My parents actually their first date was to
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  Speaker 1: a Giants game. So when I was born, things really
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  Speaker 1: kind of you know, our house has always been Giants pride,
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  Speaker 1: so it just kind of I grew up with it.
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  Speaker 1: So being a little kid and watching the Giants win
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  Speaker 1: in eight and twenty twelve, it's just been it was exciting,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and you know, I was I want to say,
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  Speaker 1: maybe six seven eight years old at the time watching
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  Speaker 1: those games, so I was kind of like just sitting
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  Speaker 1: back and like trying to understand the game a little more,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, you're a little kid, so you don't
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  Speaker 1: really have a full understanding, but you know, it was
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  Speaker 1: fun to watch, like my dad took me to my
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  Speaker 1: first Giants game.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I'm guessing you were not really around for the
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  Speaker 2: Giant Stadium world or were you around for Giants Stadium
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  Speaker 2: and then you grew up in Met Life.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up in Met Life, so I was not
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  Speaker 1: around for stadium world.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Giant Stadium was a interesting place to watch a game.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure your parents and your your family told you
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  Speaker 2: a lot of stories about the old Giant Stadium and
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  Speaker 2: met life because we share with the Jets a little
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  Speaker 2: more Blander, but I still feel the Giant Blue whenever
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  Speaker 2: there's a game day there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, to Chris and it would basically that
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  Speaker 2: win the first couple of seasons in was really special.
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  Speaker 2: And now you're writing for the team. I mean, how
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  Speaker 2: cool is that to grow up and now you're writing
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  Speaker 2: for them on a on a on a you know,
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  Speaker 2: being published about them. It's gotta be feel awesome for you.
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  Speaker 1: Jordan's it's yeah. Yeah. When when I first got in
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  Speaker 1: touch with and Force the sport, they asked me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what do you want to write? And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I want to write. I want to write Giants.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what I did, and you know, I follow
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  Speaker 1: them every day, you know, I keep up with what's
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  Speaker 1: going on, and it's it's exciting for me. So for
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  Speaker 1: everything that's been going on, this is like, this is
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  Speaker 1: like really exciting for me to look forward to this
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  Speaker 1: coming season.
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  Speaker 2: Oh after years having to write about this and the other.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's sad because Daviles first year showed a lot
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  Speaker 2: of promise and I'm sure you felt that way too.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he started his tenure with a two point
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  Speaker 2: conversion against Tennessee that won the game, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, this guy could be here for a while.
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  Speaker 2: I never thought three years later would be a complete disaster,
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  Speaker 2: but it ended up being so. And now this is
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  Speaker 2: really a reinvention of the Giants. John Harbaugh is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be the reinvention for the Giants. What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: I think so big time. I mean, he's been to
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowls, he's been to playoffs. I know his last
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  Speaker 1: couple of seasons with the Ravens were a little bit tough,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, I feel like him coming in with
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  Speaker 1: the Giants is going to really turn things around.
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  Speaker 2: But Jordan, what I love about your work is it's
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  Speaker 2: not just like all right, here's what everybody's hearing about.
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  Speaker 2: You dig in, I mean, you dig in and write
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  Speaker 2: about things nobody's hearing about. Like, I'm sure half of
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  Speaker 2: the population doesn't know Matt Naggi's the offensive coordinator, But
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  Speaker 2: if you turn to Jordan's speech, he's already ready writing
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  Speaker 2: about it. I'm sure that's how in depth you get
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  Speaker 2: with this team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's how in depth I am with this team.
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  Speaker 2: And then you throw your you know, your your hats
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  Speaker 2: and stuff at the TV when they screw up, so
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  Speaker 2: that you have a passion for him. So what's it
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  Speaker 2: like to write your passion write out your passion for
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  Speaker 2: this team and even get vocal about it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you don't. You don't mince words at all.
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  Speaker 1: No, I do not mince words when when I am happy,
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  Speaker 1: when I am sad. It truly depends on how they
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  Speaker 1: play kind of pretty much what sets my mood for
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  Speaker 1: pretty much the whole rest of the weekend or the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the day. I would say it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: I have touched base on a lot of areas where
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  Speaker 1: you know, frustration and watching this team just kind of
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  Speaker 1: fall apart where they shouldn't be. But I feel like
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  Speaker 1: there is a lot going on, Like they have the
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they have all the pieces together, They're
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  Speaker 1: just not quite sure what to do with them yet.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think a healthy Scat, a healthy Leak, and
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  Speaker 2: a healthy Jackson, well with Harball, it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: great pairing. And you know, I look at I look
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  Speaker 2: at Harball. He won with Joe Flacco. He basically, you know,
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  Speaker 2: taught Lamar Jackson. I know it was a bad split,
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  Speaker 2: but early on he mentored Lamar Jackson what a great player.
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  Speaker 2: Jackson's you know, becabb He's become one of those elite
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  Speaker 2: quarterback debates, right, And so I think you can do
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  Speaker 2: that with Jackson Dart, and I think he can do
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  Speaker 2: it in a balance way. We all know Dabill loved
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  Speaker 2: the guy, but maybe to the point of getting the
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  Speaker 2: concussion protocol. There might have been an overuse of Jackson
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  Speaker 2: Dart his first year. What do you think.
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  Speaker 1: I think there was a very much overuse of Jackson Dart.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like things kind of fell out of place.
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  Speaker 1: And I felt like in the last I want to
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  Speaker 1: say last year and probably the year before, where they
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  Speaker 1: were calling plays and every time you turned around, the
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  Speaker 1: Giants were running the ball, and it's not you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a play that every that a team should
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  Speaker 1: play all the time, you know what I mean. So
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  Speaker 1: I felt like like when they called the concussion protocol
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  Speaker 1: where they had him running and running and running and running,
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  Speaker 1: it was kind of rough to watch because I felt
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  Speaker 1: like they couldn't they didn't have the trust in their quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where they went wrong is they have to
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  Speaker 1: find the trust in Jackson Dart to get that bull
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  Speaker 1: out there and get it in the air. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's got an arm. It's just a matter of working
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  Speaker 1: with it. And that's where I feel Harribo is gonna
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  Speaker 1: help to turn that around for him.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe a little discipline. And like I watched that
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  Speaker 2: Saints game and I'm like, Jackson, why going for those
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  Speaker 2: extra few yards? He fumbles the football And there was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of I want to say stubbornness as well.
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  Speaker 2: His first year he got very ambitious. I think Jim
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  Speaker 2: Harball can John Harbough sorry, could bring a discipline to
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  Speaker 2: Jackson that maybe he didn't have this year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you on that, And.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll have to see. The kids got talent, the
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  Speaker 2: kids got an arm and then Scattabo. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: can't really help what happened, and that was horrible in
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  Speaker 2: that Philly game. But another kid that might need a
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  Speaker 2: little discipline under Harball's watch. We'll have to see how
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  Speaker 2: that goes. And Leak ends up being the veteran of
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  Speaker 2: the three of them. How funny is that. I mean
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be now his third season. I think he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be the vet of this three.
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  Speaker 1: The score here, Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. That's
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  Speaker 1: pretty crazy. I remember the moment that the night he
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  Speaker 1: got drafted. I was actually watching it at home with
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  Speaker 1: my dad, and I was really excited to see him
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  Speaker 1: get drafted.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so you're a kid watching these through Super Bowls.
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  Speaker 2: I want to go back to that because I think
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  Speaker 2: all of our in our children, in their kid was
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  Speaker 2: pissed off that Eli wasn't voted a second time around
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  Speaker 2: to the hall, like that's our childhood hero. Wouldn't you agree?
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  Speaker 1: I would agree?
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  Speaker 2: And so how old were you firstly? And did you
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  Speaker 2: have a grasp of what Eli Manning did at that time?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was pretty magnificent what he did. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: he had a solid defense too, which helped out both
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  Speaker 2: years there but when you were a kid, could you
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  Speaker 2: feel that magnitude even in the young's you know, young Jordan,
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  Speaker 2: if you will, I.
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  Speaker 1: Did, actually because I remember, like, you know, when my
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  Speaker 1: brother and I first started watching gay As, my dad
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  Speaker 1: would look at us and he would like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: talk to us about the Giants, and you know, kind
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  Speaker 1: of like our entire schedule during football season revolved around
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  Speaker 1: New York. So he'd be like Eli and like he
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  Speaker 1: would get us excited. So like we'd watch the games,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember, I remember a lot of that. So yes,
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  Speaker 1: watching Eli play those games was like amazing. So when
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  Speaker 1: I was a little kid watching that, that was that
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  Speaker 1: was exciting for me because you know, my dad got excited,
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  Speaker 1: so why not be excited.
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  Speaker 2: And we're cann't forget that freezing cold in Green Bay
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  Speaker 2: the first Super Bowl run. I mean that was quite
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  Speaker 2: an effort there, now was quite an effort in the
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  Speaker 2: freezing cold and Tomlin's face, Tom Coughlin's face like all
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  Speaker 2: red and raw. It was just you'll never forget those
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  Speaker 2: sights and sounds that first of all, Then the second one.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me, if you notice this parallel, So in the
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  Speaker 2: first one in Sanday, Samuel just missed an interception, and
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  Speaker 2: then the Tyree play in the second one, there was
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  Speaker 2: almost that similar thing that Manningham had, that incredible catch
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  Speaker 2: on the sideline. I mean it felt like parallels against
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots both years there.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes it did.
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  Speaker 2: And of course it came down of the last throw
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  Speaker 2: by Brady two times, the last one of course, falling
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  Speaker 2: in front of Grunk, the other one where the defense
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  Speaker 2: was just a miracle, no pass interference at all. Like
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  Speaker 2: I can remember that like it was yesterday and jump
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  Speaker 2: around the house as a high school kid watching this.
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  Speaker 2: I'll never forget all that. But let's fast forward today,
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  Speaker 2: because once again the Patriots have reinvented themselves too. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: you're earlier than the Giants. I kind of knew Drake
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  Speaker 2: May was gonna be special going into the year. I
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  Speaker 2: know he's gonna take him in the super Bowl. This
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  Speaker 2: is a bit of a surprising year for them.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, this has been a bit of a surprising year
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  Speaker 1: for them watching them play.
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  Speaker 2: But in a sense, and I know I'm not supposed
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  Speaker 2: to say this, but in a sense, I'm kind of
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  Speaker 2: happy for Drake May that he's broken into this league.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know, I'm just going to say that
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  Speaker 2: as a Giant fan, but it is impressive to watch
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  Speaker 2: his first year.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it is. It is impressive to watch him play
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  Speaker 1: the first his first year, and you know it's been
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  Speaker 1: it's been a rough ride for the Patriots just as
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  Speaker 1: much as it has been for Giants. They just got
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  Speaker 1: to their rebuilt faster than the Giants did.
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  Speaker 2: And Rabel, you know, he's been there before. He's won,
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  Speaker 2: he's lost, he's been in the trenches, so I think,
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  Speaker 2: and he's one of those rare guys that learned under
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  Speaker 2: Belichick and has succeeded. And remember Belichick is a bad
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  Speaker 2: track record, the coaches breaking off from him and not succeeding.
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  Speaker 2: But Rabel's reversing the trend here.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, I picked up on that.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, I want to ask you about on the
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  Speaker 2: other side, we all saw Darnold struggle because I know
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  Speaker 2: you also followed the Jets as well a little but
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  Speaker 2: even though don't wright about you followed them because I
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  Speaker 2: feel like you follow all things football and New York football.
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  Speaker 2: I'm also happy for him too, like he's kind of
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  Speaker 2: given the fu to both the Jets and the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: for giving up on him. And now he's in the
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  Speaker 2: super Bowl with the Seahawks, and actually he's in the
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  Speaker 2: same category as Brady. I think it's like fourteen thousand
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  Speaker 2: pass yards or whatever. Only the other guy to do
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  Speaker 2: that in back to back years was Tom Brady. He's
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  Speaker 2: already mentioned with Brady, and it's just it's amazing to
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  Speaker 2: watch his renaissance as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it is kind of that was exciting to see
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  Speaker 1: him because you know it is, and I agree with
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  Speaker 1: you that it's kind of like a screw you to
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  Speaker 1: the Jets and the Vikings because they gave up on
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  Speaker 1: him too soon. He's one hell of a player, I'll
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  Speaker 1: put it that way.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's got guts, he's got grittiness, and it's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he got to show his athleticism with
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  Speaker 2: the Jets at all. I feel like they kind of
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  Speaker 2: pigeonhole him. So to see that with the Vikings last
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  Speaker 2: year and what he did with them, they should have
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  Speaker 2: kept him. To be honest with you, they shouldn't. Because McCarthy,
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  Speaker 2: as much as I loved him in Michigan a surprising flop.
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  Speaker 2: A surprising flop. I know he's been hurt too, but
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  Speaker 2: still it's just a shock because he was such a
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  Speaker 2: dominant force in that title game. I'm sure you remember
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  Speaker 2: that a few years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I do, I do, But yes, I can't agree with
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  Speaker 1: you more that that is one of the biggest flops
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  Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the only part that would be wanting to root
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  Speaker 2: against the Patriots in addition to dart Up success is this.
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  Speaker 2: I know that we the eighteen and zero and then
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  Speaker 2: n eighteen and one will never be replaced ever. Like
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  Speaker 2: what the Giants did to interrupt that undefeated year for
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  Speaker 2: Brady and the Patriots and how they knocked them off
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  Speaker 2: for the ship Ball is just it'll be one for
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  Speaker 2: the record books, and I think you'll talk about it
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  Speaker 2: for ages. Oh yeah, but for the kids as the
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  Speaker 2: Patriots get beat more than the Super Bowl. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to say it waters down what the Giants did,
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  Speaker 2: but it's like, Okay, the Patriots were kind of beatable,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't want that to be the case. Like
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  Speaker 2: I wanted the Giants to have that stand as like
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  Speaker 2: the only team to ever beat and now the egos
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  Speaker 2: being them was interesting too, But I always wanted the
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  Speaker 2: Giants to be the only team because it made that
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  Speaker 2: more special, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Yeah, that's what it made more special. I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't agree with you more on that.
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  Speaker 2: Like, okay, folds and the egos were an interesting thing,
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  Speaker 2: but then it became well, then then that's another team
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  Speaker 2: that beat the Patriots. But I always thought the Giants ones.
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  Speaker 2: You can never take that away, no matter how many
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  Speaker 2: teams beat them. But if the Pages win, it kind
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  Speaker 2: of saves that. All right, what the Giants did was
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  Speaker 2: special even years ago, decades ago. Yeah, because we all
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  Speaker 2: know as we get older and the kids learn it,
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  Speaker 2: they see it differently. They don't see that historic run
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  Speaker 2: that we did, and that's why you writing about it
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  Speaker 2: and preserving it's so important. Yeah, Now at MetLife, what
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  Speaker 2: do you like about game day there? Do you like
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  Speaker 2: the game day atmosphere could be different? I mean, obviously
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: I think a winning cultural help, but what's your Do
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: you still get excited to go to a game even
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: as they're struggling.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, I still get excited to go to games even
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: though they are a struggling team, because I get to
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: go and see how many other people are in support
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: of this team despite how much they've been falling apart
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. You know, I like
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: going just to see, you know, the stadium full, and
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: you know, and you know when Jackson Dark came in
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: and that stadium was I beg to go to that game.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Like my dad was like, well, you know, I gotta
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: I want to take your mom. You know, that's usually
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: her game. And I was like, you know, I really,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: So I went and I bought the tickets because I
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: was like, this is a big game, Jackson Darts coming in.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: I want to go. So I bought the tickets and
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I went. And just seeing that stadium filled and seeing
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: how excited all the fans were, you know, it was
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I hadn't seen that in a long time. So to me,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: that's like that makes me happy. And then walking out
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: of the stadium where everyone's chanting when the team does
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: win a game, that makes me excited too, you know,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: And just getting to see them on the field that
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: that actually makes me really happy because you know, watching
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: them grow as a team is one of the best
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: things I love to see.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: And Jordan, right, I like about our commonality is we
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: don't care about draft picks, just much that locker room
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: doesn't care about draft picks. And for them to win
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: the way that the last couple of games said, Okay,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: maybe that's how of what could be to come. I mean,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: we had a new coach that we had to look
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: forward to and all that. But I don't want to
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: go down losing to the Cowboys. I don't care what
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: draft pick we have to get, Like I just it's
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: a it's a Giants pride thing almost.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: It's a Giants pride pride thing. I agree what I
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: felt about those last couple of games. You know, they
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: had the number one pick, and thinking back on it,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I was kind of excited for them to
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: have the first pick, and then I really thought about
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: it and I was like, well, I feel like most
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: first picks kind of fall off the edge after the
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: season starts. So I'm kind of glad that they won
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: those last couple of games and drop down to number five.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: So to me, I'm kind of ready for whoever they pick.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: You know, I kind of hope it's either Jordan Tyson
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: or somebody else. But we do need to fill those
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: those empties, those vacant spots.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, you gotta get a line in for
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: for Jackson. There's no doubt about that. And that's always
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: been a Giants perennial thing. You gotta keep that offensive
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: line enforced. But we don't need the quarterback, So not
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: getting first is okay. I mean Mendoza and I pray
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: wherever he goes he keeps that spirit. I mean, I
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: love his jovial nature that he played with it what
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: just about winning for him, like he had a whole
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: genuine feel about him. I want that to be preserved
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: no matter where he gets drafted. I think it'll be
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: with the Raiders. But the Giants kne number one. They
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: just needed to know they were gonna be okay to
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: end the year. And I think we're seeing that. So
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: yeah and so. And I want to say, in your writing, Jordan,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: it reflects your optimism slash. It also reflects your your analysis, right,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: but you're very optimistic when you write. Would you agree?
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I would agree, yes. When when I do write, I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: try to find the optimistic side of it, keep things up,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: you know, despite the downhill. I kind of look at it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: That way, and I'm sure I enforce the support loves
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: that when you get to write from a positive spin,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: because look, you can write all the negatives and we
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: see that in the media all the time. But I
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: think to have one leg up over the media, gotta
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: write a bit positive. And I've always said New York
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: sports media should celebrate the wins. I don't understand why
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: we don't do that enough.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't understand where we don't do that enough.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: We always focus on all how bad things are. I mean,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: this hardball thing is tremendous, and it's just there's really
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: not a negative you could think about it.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, there's no. I don't believe there's a negative
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: with this coach at well. You know, everybody's kind of
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: up in the air about the defensive coach the offensive coach.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: But I feel like these three put together is gonna
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: light things up in New York again.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about your writing. Now. Did you
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: do this as a kid? Where you Because here's the thing,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of a geek. I would actually write notes
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: and I'm still gonna do it every super Bowl because
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: i always do like a big post Super Bowl day
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: podcast about the bear I break it down, you know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: And I've always written notes even as I'm at a
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: watch party. It's kind of geeky, I guess. But were
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: you the same? Like I feel like you're a note
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: taker even during these games.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I honestly, I kind I like to listen with the commentator,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: So I listen to some of the things that they say,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: and then I kind of go off my own thoughts.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I will write it down. I do write things
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: down to remember things. I also, you know, do take
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: some little notes. Sometimes I will start writing the story
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: before the game is over, and then I'm like, you
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna wait on this because if I
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: start saying they're gonna win, then it's all gonna go downhill.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Yes that article against Denver, you hadn't written the whole
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: thing yet, and then sure en up they blow I
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: mean thirty three points in that fourth quarter. I I
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: still can't get over. But like a game like that,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: how do you write like that? How do you write
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: for that?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: You you? Honestly, I kind of just sit back and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you know, I contemplated. I'm like, Okay, depending on how
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: this game is go, maybe I'll write the first sentence.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: And then in the middle of the game, when I
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: do start the first sentence, I'm like, you know what,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop it right here. Like before I even
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: finish it, I get like four or five words in
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: and then I'm like, you know what, stop right there
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: before you write this whole thing out, Wait till this
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: game's over, because you never know how it's gonna end.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: And that's pretty much what happened with that story.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Why didn't we get rid of it? And I didn't
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: realize Dabel had the control of this, and I think
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: that's another reason why he was like, oh, he didn't
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: fire Kafka. He didn't fire a bowling at all, and
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: that was kind of weird. But yeah, if they get
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: rid of him after that loss, the Giants still have
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: a chance. I believe the Giants were still having a
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: chance even after that because they had that high against
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: the Eagles and they were running off that high and
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden this happens. Why didn't d Abell
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: get rid of him sooner? What do you think the
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: mindset was?
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I honestly, I don't think at that point. I think
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: he was just trying to keep his job at that
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: point and just trying to figure things out. I was
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: kind of done by even before that game. I was
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: kind of like, I need Dabel out of here, I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: need Bowing out of here, I need Kafka, Like I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: was ready to who just completely wipe the slate and
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: start over. I was so over that coaching staff that
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do it anymore. And I knew the day
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: he walked off the field after the Bears game that
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: he was.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Done another one when they blew that one, And that
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: was just awful too. But I want to get into
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: your you know, you just graduated, I think a couple
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: of years a year or so ago from school, And
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: did you major in this? Is this what your feel is?
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I actually majored in just journalism. But I when I
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: was in college, I had tried to step away from
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: sports if I might have you and try and you know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: write other stories such as like you know, feature stories
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: on like what's going on in this school department or
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: what's going on in that school department. And I got
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: an email from a professor one day that said, hey,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: do you want to be our sports editor next semester?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: And right then and there I was pulled back in
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: and I knew right then and there that sports was
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: that No matter how many times I've tried to step
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: away from sports, the fishing line comes out and I
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: get reeled back in. And since then I have just
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: fallen in love with it, and I keep up with everything.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I watched the Devils, I watched the Phillies, obviously, I
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: watched the Giants. I watch pretty much anything that's put
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: in front of me.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Well, you're in South Philly, right or in South Jersey,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I should say, so you're you're close to Philly. I
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: gotta ask you this. Uh, the Sirianni rumors never end,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: and I'm sure they always swirl. It seemed like Phillies
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: never happened, even if they just won Super Bowl last year.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: You know, do you find this guy in the hot
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: seat almost every season, no matter what happens.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: No matter what happens, he's always in the hot seat.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And is it justified or is it like, come on,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: give the guy a break kind of at this?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: You know this past season, I don't know. I would say,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: you know, let him sit on the hot seat a
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: little while longer.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Did it pain? You see Saquon go to the Eagles?
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Like I kind of understand the Giants rationale. The only
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: thing I don't understand is why we dumped that money
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: into Jones and not into Saquon or something different than Jones.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: That's really my only question on that. I understand letting
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: them go though, because he wasn't always healthy. And I
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: kind of get that argument too.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah I could. I couldn't agree more on that. He
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't always healthy, you know, but there there was a
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: lot going on there, and I understand it was the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: first time in a couple of years that the Giants
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: had gone to the playoffs, But there was no need
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to give Daniel Jones that contract.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Now, he's an athletic guy, and I think we could
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: see if he has the right line, he can do well.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you know it just the forty five million.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I just I don't know. I wouldn't I wouldn't.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Have done it, but I wouldn't have done it.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: But what who are we?
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: We're just kind of on the on the talking I
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: don't want to say talking heads, but we were out
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: of here just trying to figure it out for the fans. Really,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: that's what it is.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Hey.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: You know, I got to give a shout out to
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Nathan because in our media is the guy who can
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: next us with all his you know, daily tags and
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: all that. I'm like, oh, Jordan, this is awesome. She's
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: a writer, she's cool, giant fan. Let's connect. So I
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: gotta give Nyhing a little shout out here for connecting.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: But that means during gratiating New Jersey sports. I mean,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: do you feel that New Jersey sports community or what
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I do?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: And and and how often do you see you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: those who are in the Jersey sports community at different events.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Do you ever get out to different events and all that.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I honestly I haven't gone out to one in a while.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: But when I do, you know, I kind of get
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: excited because you know, I get to meet all these
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: new people, make connections, and for me, it's it's it's exciting.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Oh. I mean the Woodbridge Brewing thing alone is just
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: a fun event every time you get to go there.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I hope we've gotten some events with them, and I
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: know other places throw giant stuff specifically, so I got
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: to get to that this season. And I think they're
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: going to see more of it. I think I think
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: more gonna come out of the woodwork with these changes
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: that we've seen this offseason, Like more people will want
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: to do watch parties and all that.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: And I gotta connect. I know, if you're connect with
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Jazz Mainte, but I think they just started a podcast.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: You gotta get on there and talk to them about
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: that whole with them, because Jazz Meet's saying, as you know,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: a lifelong ticket, you know, season ticket guy. And that's
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: the other thing about the Giants, maybe with Jets too,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: but the Giants have a legacy, you know, like they
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: aren't here one hundred years for nothing. They have a
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: whole family, as your family is a lineage of Giant fans.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It's not just like one for It's like a whole
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: family behind you.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's that's what I love too, is that,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: you know, my family connects on football, especially New York football.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Every time around this year, you know, we get all
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: these anniversaries thirty five years since wide right Norwood a
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, and then the Sims era. I mean,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: does your dad and mom talked about those Giants two
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: of the parcels Giants. I mean it's almost like talking
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: about glory days. Not to quote Bruce Sprecy or anything,
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: but you.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, no, they talk about that. You know, my
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: dad's favorite player was Lawrence Taylor, so you know we
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: talk about that and how exciting those games were. You know,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: he he watched a lot of those games. Back in
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: back in the day.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: And I always love it. And we grew up watching
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Sims on TV, and I always loved watching his commentating
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: with Jim Nance. There was nothing like the two of
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: them going back and forth in the booth. I do
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: miss that, and I actually miss him overall commentating, although
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I know he has the podcast now, but that era was.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I've been calling these guys voices of our childhood. I
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: know they played, but they're like voice of our childhood.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: We listened, we grew up listening to them. As you say,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: listen to these guys now, I want to ask you this.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Please tell me listen to Bob Papa and Carl Banks
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: on Sundays because I feel like they are I must
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: listen during Giant games, not only itaus our household names,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: but just because they got a great energy about him,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: even when the team's stinking up the twoe.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Yep yep on on the car rides home from the
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Giants game. And so my dad and I all listen
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: to those two.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Not and Carl Banks not the guy who, though he
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: was a former Giants play employed by f an not
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: a bid to call it out and he's been doing
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: that forever and We had the pleasure meeting Dick Lynch
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: many years ago, who was on the f an call
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: with Papa and and and Banks. So it's like, again,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: we grew up around these guys. And tell me, listening
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: to radio is so much better than TV because TV
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: they don't highlight the players much. On radio, you have
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: to know who's going to what and I'm like, oh wait,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: that guy's on that team. You know, it's a different
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: connection than TV than TV.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get to visualize it, which I get excited at,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: which I get excited about. And I really like it
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: because you know, sometimes like I don't get to watch
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the game, so listening to it like I know who's who,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: what they look like. You know, I can picture in
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: what they're doing.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Now I've gotten to interview Kevin Harlan radio row twelve
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: years ago now, and that was when the Seahawks played
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: the Broncos here at MetLife. Nicest guy in the world,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: and he's gonna call another Super Bowl. Come on, tell
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: me you don't love listening to Kevin Harlan call. I
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: mean that's just muscless and radio too.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yes I do, I do.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you about your your blogging. Now,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: before you joined these publications, were you blogging yourself? Were you,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: you know, writing online yourself and then you just eventually
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: ease into these different publications or what.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so that's how I got started. Actually, I
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: was blogging on my own and you know, I was
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: writing my own stories and so I was doing that.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: But you know, I started really looking and when I
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: got into in my first couple of years of college,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't know what I want to do. I knew
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I wanted to write, but I didn't know what I
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: wanted to write about. So, you know, my my counselor
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, why don't you take this you know,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: media course. You can take this multimedia, you can take
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: this other course, you know, take intro to Journalism. So
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, So I was like, you know,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not really I wasn't sure at the time, like
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: what journalism was. Like I was taught that, you know,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: it was you know, you just you have to talk
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: to people, you have to do this, you have to
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: do that, and like I felt, it was a lot.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know. So I took the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: class and I knew right then and there that I
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: fell in love with it. So I being that person
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you could get within that course, you could get extra
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: credit for every story you wrote for the school's page.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: And at one point, all the stories I had written,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: my name was on the top of the school page
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: and literally I took over the front of the page
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: because that's how many stories I wrote.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Wow that and what school was this? You don't let
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: me ask?
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: In Ocean County College.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, very cool? And so your name on the top billing,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: if you will, on the headlines. What's next? I mean,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting to get those press passes, Jordan, I've been
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: asking about that. Are gonna get press passes through these outlets?
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Like what's next?
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: What's next? Well, I gotta get all that, and I
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: gotta you know, the moment, I'm still writing for Enforced
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and still writing for All New Jersey, and at the moment,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of at a standstill until something else falls
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: into place.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: And these outlets you think you'll be able to You're
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: not sure, I guess, but hey, as long as you're
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: getting your work out there, that's what matters now. On
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: in Jay, you don't just focus on the giants, right,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: If I'm not mistaken, I think you're right about the
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Phillies and stuff as well, or is that, Jenna.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: I I write about the Devils, I write about the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Phillies On there. I go to some of the high
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: school games, so I'll cover some of those. I used
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: to cover some of the college games that were played,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: so I was kind of all over the place. I mean,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: at one point I was down at TCNJ catching some
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: of the baseball games.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: And then they tell you these kids in college and
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: even in high school, they so appreciate the local coverage
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: because they need it, you know, and it's a way
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: to get these kids on the map. And you know, hey,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: some kid might be out there recruited. We don't know,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: maybe because of your article. You know, it could happen.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: It could happen. Yeah.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Now, have you ever thought about podcasting? Because you got
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: a great sports talk energy and I could I could
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: tell you're you're one that would take phone calls and
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: you'd be like lighting up the phone lines. So you
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: got a really good sports talk energy about you.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I've contemplated. I thought about taking podcasting in college, but
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I had way too much on my play as it was,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and I just couldn't fit it. Into my schedule, so
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I did not, But in the future I would hope
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: to get involved in more podcasts.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Writing technique I want to get into that has been
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: to like adapt your technique, and really it sounds like
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: you've been able to do for different writings, and I
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: feel like writing these different things, it takes different techniques.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Asn't like to write for future it's a little different
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: than writing for sports and vice versa.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Yes it is. It is very, very different. I can
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: tell you that for a fact. You know, sports is like,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: you know, you got to be quick. You gotta be
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: on the money right now, get it out there, you know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: because it goes by quick. With feature writing, you know,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: you can you can take your time with it, like
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: it's a little slow of a process. But the thing is,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I like to you know, when I have a story idea,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: I want to get on it. So like, for example,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: the one of my recent stories, which was Jackson Dart
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: helping to get Harbaugh in the door. You know, I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: thought about it. I was like, oh, I want to
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: get this out like two days. So I sat down
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: and I wrote it. Now, in college, when I had
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: a feature story, I you know, it took me a
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: day or two, you know, not the day of, but
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: it took me maybe two three four days to get
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: it done, just because I wanted it to be a
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: little smoother and a little cleaner. I guess.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this. The speed and accuracy
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: is so important because I watch a lot of journalists
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: try and get the news out before anybody else, and
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: they follow their face half the time. So how do
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: you do it in such a meticulous way that you
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: can be fast and accurate at the same.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Time notes You gotta take your notes.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just think of John Hayman an Arson
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Judge when Aaron Judge was not going to San Francisco.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: You know, that type of moment happens. But that's because
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: of these journalists are always going to rush, and yet
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: you knock out a story the same day, but you
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: do it in such a different way that's not like
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: rushing the like. You take your time. And I think
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: more journalists can learn from that, you know. Yeah, all right,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: A kid today sees your name top billing at energy
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: sports or uninjured sports or at enforced supports and says,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I want to do that one day. What's your advice
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: to kids? I know, you're basically a kid yourself. You're
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: just graduated college, and you know what I'm saying, you
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: can be a leader for the kids you know after you.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: So what's your advice.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: My advice is to, you know, take your time. It
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't all have to happen right now. You know, get involved,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: you know, be social and ask the questions. If you're
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: curious to know and you want to get that story
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: out there, you just got to, you know, sit and
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: talk with somebody and ask them, you know, can I
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: record you? Can I take notes on this and always
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: always have a pen on you because you never know
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: what an idea is going to strike.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Speaking of that interviews now, obviously the Giants media department's
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: a little different. But have you ever thought to like, hey,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I have this blog, I want to interview so and
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: so into a Q and A. Have you thought about
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: approaching even an NFL team about that.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I have contemplated it from time to time, but otherwise
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I've just kind of sat back on it for a
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: little while.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like you're waiting for that next big
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: break to happen. So we're gonna be following your journey
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: along the way. And I love that you are able
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: to and you're driven to cover everything, not just the
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: NFL or MB but even the local kids. And I
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: think I think they appreciate that too. Yeah, well this
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: has been great. Any any final thoughts. I mean, maybe
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: one day we'll see on Radio Row those those those
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: weeks are fun.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: It's just it's a great time out and out in
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Radio Row. Maybe you'll get out there. I know our
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: friend Nittan is there living it up every day. It's
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: it's pretty cool to watch. Do you ever see yourself
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: on Radio Row covering this as a as a journalist?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: And by the way, I should say, yesterday was Women
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: in Sports Day and I'm sure those kind of days
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: mean a lot to you as well, to see how
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: far you've come, uh in the business.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I did see that, and it was
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: it was exciting to see that across social media. So
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: maybe really happy to know that women are being you know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: shouted out and you know, being allowed to follow their
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: dreams and you know all that good stuff.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: All right, give us, because maybe people don't know my podcast,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: give us your socials right now and tell us where
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: we can follow you and your writing.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: You can follow me on Instagram and Twitter under Jordan Bodewin,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: and it will be under random oh nine two four
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: oh two on Twitter, but Instagram is Jordan Underscore Bodwin Underscore,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and that's it.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Are either type to wake up in the middle of
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the night and say, oh my god, I have an idea,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: let me write down. I mean, that's how Jerry Seinbeld
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: did all of his jokes. He had all these things
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: by his bedstand writing his jokes. You feel the same
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: way about writing that, Oh my god, I have an idea,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I got to write down right now, yep, yep.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I usually I usually sleep with my phone next to me,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: so if I do get an idea, I kind of
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: open it up and I start typing it out.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Favorite source that you like to go to and trust
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: that helps you with your writing.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I mostly, you know, I check them with Adam Schaeffer
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: for NFL, and I kind of mostly follow, you know,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: when the news drops. I follow ESPN. So those are
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: all my sources that I usually use.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: But I know from personal experience she accepts tips from
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: people everyday. People too, I'm like, you gotta jump on this,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: and you write about it. I'm like, oh, that's cool.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I gave you that, you know, so you accept tips
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: from everybody, which is even better.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, yeah, I do love and everybody gives
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: tips my way, so kind of makes me think about
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: it before I start writing it.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: There you go, Well, Jordan Bodewin not Boardane, Okay, Bodewin. Awesome.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: Finally gonna get you on my podcast and enjoy super
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Bowl Week. I also can't believe that these Giants wins
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: happened fourteen years ago and sixteen years ago. Time's flying
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: too much here, Jordan, and I also want to see
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: another super Bowl before you know, too long anyway.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been too long. I feel like next year
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: might be a super Bowl year, if not just a
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: playoff here.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad you brought that up. I can't. I
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: gotta ask you this as a follow up. Then the
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: pressure's on, I mean, there's no doubt about the Giants.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Pressure is on from the media. How scrutinized You think
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: this guy's gonna be on the sidelines every game, not
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: just day one, every game.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Every game? Yeah, I think I think he'll be scrutinized
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: almost all season long.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: And what's your lease for John Hartball? Like, because you
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: you kind of give these guys a low leeway, and
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: then when you get pissed off, you write that too.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: So what's your least? Because I feel like you also
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: understand this is his first year. You can't expect them
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: to be the savior right away.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: No, you can't expect them to be the savior right
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: You got to give them time. I gave Dable, you know,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: a couple of years. You know, after the playoff year,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I was, you know, kind of thinking about it, and
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: then we just started losing games left and right, and
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I sat back on it, and then just watching every game,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: it was like run the ball, run the ball, run
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the ball. And I was like, I am so tired
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: of this. It doesn't work.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: In the Buffalo game. Can we talk about that for
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: a second. The Buffalo game, yep, one yard line, you
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: have the pass interference bonus, and they still don't score.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was the most frustrating part. I did,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: the most frustrating game of Dable's tenure. Then, of course,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: the misfilgos that would happen left and right, Nope, And
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: I started to think my conspiratorial brain and started to think,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: are they blowing these games on purpose to get the
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: number one. You know, it starts to make you realize,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: make think, how are we losing these games? It just
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: didn't make sense.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: It didn't make sense. It didn't make sense at all.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: It was it was a matter of watching you know,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the year before this past watching them in the red
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: zone was a complete disaster. But you know, going to
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: you know, the training camp and seeing how put together
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: they were before everything happened, you know, it kind of
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: gave me a little bit of hope for this season
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: and then you know, the season happened, and watching them
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: in the red zone this year, it was more intact,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't enough, I'll put it that way to you.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: And I think getting a special teams coach going to
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: be different because we don't want any more miss field goals.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Ironically, Tyler loops miss field goal kind of set I
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: think was the doom for John Harbaugh. But you know,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: you got a different personnel in here well to see.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I never I said you were covering Matt Naggie, But
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts on that real quick
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: because the ovens of coordinator was actually a big situation.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: We thought it was going to be Tom Monk and
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: then he takes the deal with I think Cleveland, So
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: it's like, well, where do they go next? You know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Naggi wasn't the best head coach with the with the Bears,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts on him as oc with
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: the Giants? I mean, could he work with Dart in
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: a good way here?
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I think I think it'll be. I think it'll be
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: different in a good way for this coming year. It'll
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: be it'll be something different, something to develop and you know,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: figure out, you know, what can we do here? You know,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I have all the pieces to work with. You know,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: you know they in the past, you know, the past
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: coaches couldn't put those pieces together. But this time around,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe he'll be able to do it.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: You know, we were spoiled, okay on the defensive end,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: we were spoiled with Spagnolo for two super I think
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: it was superle both years, and we haven't gotten it
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: right since the defensive position. I loved Martindale also, but uh,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Spagnolo spoiled us, and I think that's why a Bowen
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: situation pissed us off, because like we're used to good defenses.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Where do they is there a defensive coordinator. I don't
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: even know. I haven't really even kept up with that
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: naming process yet.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have a believe Dinnard Wilson from the Titans
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: is their new defensive coach. So this should be something
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: interesting for this season.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure I'm gonna be writing about it and
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: real fast. The collab we never thought would we'd see
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: coming h Robert sala At Dable, the both ex Giants
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: X and New York coaches teaming up in Tennessee. And
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you, put the both of their brains together,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: maybe they have a shot. Because cam Ward's cam Ward's good, right,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I mean there could be something there.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: There could be something there. Yeah, I mean he was
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: he was a number one pick.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: So it just I think both of the way both
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: of them ended their tenures here, it'll be very I
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: don't you're gonna be watching as closely I might because
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I want to see how the tandem works together. Having
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: both I don't know failed in New York. Could we
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: say that in a sense, I mean they both basically
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: fail in New York. So what do you think? I mean,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: can we see something big from the Titans this year?
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Uh? You know, I don't know that there could be
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: that possibility. I mean, they're also in the midst of
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: a team rebuilt too, But you know, we'll see what
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: happens with that.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I'm sure you'll be following it all because I feel
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: like football is your sport. I know you cover the
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: Devils too. And by the way, we gotta get another
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: episode on that because hockey it's a low weird in
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: New York and New Jersey right now. We all wanted
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: the other Hues brother here in New York and New Jersey.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Didn't happen?
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Could they make a playoff run though? Real quick?
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean they've they've had their ups
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and their downs this season, so you know, it's it's
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: looking a little downward right now. But I'm sure we'll
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: see what happens. That's where I'm at. We'll see what happens.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is when you right about these players,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: not afraid to tag them either, even if it's the
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: worst criticism, like that kicker that I cut, you tag them.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like, that's pretty savage, but that's that's a great trade, davage.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Like you're not afraid to call these guys out when
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: they need to be called out yep. So, uh, do
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: you get responses from players? That's my last question? Do
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: you get response from players? Hey? I like the way
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: you wrote, I don't like the way like. Do you
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: get responses at all? I?
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I do not, but I believe when I was writing
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: for the New Jersey Blue Clause, I did get a
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: couple of responses from a couple of players, So that
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: was that was exciting for me. I'm actually still in
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: contact with one of them, so I'll be back at
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the Blue Clothes this coming season just to you know,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: see him play and see a couple other guys come
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: in and play again before they move up.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: So all right, Jordan, Well, studying the NFL this whole
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: season long, do you want to make a prediction here
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: on the One look Up Network about this Sunday or
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: are you going to let it all play out?
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna let it all play out. I I'm
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: gonna say go Seahawks because That's what I'm rooting for
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, and other than that, we will
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: see what happens.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: Should be entertaining as always, all right, Jordan follow her
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: work on NJA Sports and of course enforce the sport
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: and We'll be in touch, I'm sure, and we gotta
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: make the collap happen in person too, Yes, all right,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Jordan Bodoan, thanks so much for joining the One Leg
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Up Network and keep adding one leg Up for New
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Jersey ands in your writing.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: You got it.