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Endurance racing, look ahead at MotoAmerica at NJMP & MotoGP at Motegi in S5 Ep 30 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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  You're listening to the B Favor Cool podcast.
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  My name is Rex 45. This evening we got the All Star
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  lineup. We got TJ in the building.
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  What's going on? TJ man, how you doing, man?
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  I'm doing great man, excited for this weekend.
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  We got Moto GP and Moto America ahead of us and I can't wait
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  because I found around the Moto America see where everybody
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  places and see a lot of people in person so.
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  No doubt, no doubt, no doubt we're going to have some fun
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  tonight. It's going to be a good night.
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  Let's move down the line up. We got Reese in the building man
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  Reese, how you doing tonight? You must be excited.
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  You got the weekend coming up. I don't see you sweating over
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  there. You look cool as a cucumber.
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  It's. Good man.
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  Hey man, I'm hanging in there man.
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  Ready to go, ready to get to the weekend started.
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  Hopefully it don't be a wet one or I ain't got to be looking
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  like a swamp monster. I, I know that we're going to
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  talk about all the possible options for conditions out
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  there. Last but not least, we got the
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  numbers guy in the building. Lewis, what's going on, man?
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  What's going on today? Another another interesting
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  weekend of motorcycle stuff. You know, you might not notice
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  Lewis man, but a year ago we did our first interview together.
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  Now look at this man. Crazy man.
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  Yeah, man, it's, it's, it's gone by really fast.
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  And you know, I, as always, you know, I like to thank everybody
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  that listens and watches. It's great to get feedback and
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  you know, have just people hit me up on Instagram, things like
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  that. It's cool, man.
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  I didn't think when we first did the first interview, you know, I
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  was thinking we'll do a few and we'll see how it goes.
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  But you know, here we are a year down the road and seems like a
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  lot has happened in the last year.
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  No doubt, no doubt. We're going to keep this thing
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  moving for sure. What's going on, fellas?
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  Welcome back. You know, there's going to be
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  some cheers, some tears this weekend, whether you're in the
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  US, whether you're in Motege, hell, you might even be in in
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  the UK somewhere because you might not get a contract.
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  A lot of moving pieces in in, in the motorcycle community this
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  this time around. So we'll jump into it and we'll
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  talk right off the back. You know, you know, Tap Rock
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  came over to the USI don't know if he was looking at doctors,
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  looking at houses or just trying to get comfortable with Koda,
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  but he got the you know, the motorcycle community talking
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  about what you can do on the BMW.
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  I hear guys and women and you know, they're going to get that
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  stock 1000 to come sometimes down on on some people.
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  But you know, we want to talk about deciding a little bit.
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  Well, let's talk about what top rack did over in Coda, man, Was
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  that a big deal? TJ What's good, man?
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  I mean, yeah, I mean, I I found out late and I really think Coda
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  is a really nice track. I think it's one of the best
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  tracks, like I said last week, like you can figure out anything
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  on that track with any manufacturer just because of the
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  layout uphill, downhill, but for top practice to come out here
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  and I don't know what he's trying to prove be in shape or
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  see if he can tend. I don't know what it's about,
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  but I think he put it like a two O 6 or something like that,
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  which is a pretty good time. I think Bobier put something
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  like that when they just went to Dakota, but I just can't wait to
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  see him in Moto GPI mean I I feel like he already got this
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  season locked up. It's pretty much over for Brewer
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  again. I don't know how much hard
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  harder he can try, but it ain't going to happen unless Todd
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  Bragger was out. But but yeah, what he did out
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  there was pretty impressive for I don't know how many times it's
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  written, Conan. But.
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  I can't I can't wait till he gets into PC happens.
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  That's the other part of it. How many times has he written
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  Coda, you know, over the, you know, I remember watching the
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  clip. I'm, I'm, I'm going to jump on
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  talk to Reese next. I was watching the clip with
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  Scott Greenwood a few years ago. He's talking about, you know,
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  when he first couple of laps, he was trying to break the wheel of
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  other riders. So they don't even want to come
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  in and make his race easier because, you know, he he pulled
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  out some lap times. Reese, you mean you think that
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  you know the Flack that you hear people complain about the BMW
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  and he comes out and do this. Is he tired to tell people like
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  just shut up and ride? Like you know that that's
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  serious on on a stock 1000? I mean, it's serious on a stock
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  1000, and you gotta also think he's on Pirelli tires.
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  You know, the tires do make a hell of a difference.
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  People don't think so, but tires do make a hell of a difference.
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  I mean, Jake was at AA74 on USA stock on US spec Dunlop tires.
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  So I mean Michael. Jordan got to be the shoes.
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  Got to be the shoes. On this one, I mean, it is Top
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  Rank. Top Rank is is the guy you know,
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  if you know, so he makes BMW look great.
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  I mean, because, you know, I've had, I mean, there was some
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  couple of guys out on, on on Instagram telling me that the
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  BMW is a great and giving me this, but I'm like, if it wasn't
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  for top rack, where are we at with BMW?
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  Like I had to go back into the record books and it's like I I
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  can't pull nothing up. So I mean, and I talked to a
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  couple guys there like BMW is a great street bike.
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  You know, they're still trying to develop it as a pure, pure
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  race bike. So I mean, but what he had done
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  on a bike is next to phenomenal. I mean, the guy is the last last
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  person to come up as an alien that can do pretty much
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  anything. Yeah, shout out to those fans,
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  man. We really appreciate all the
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  comments. We're doing something good over
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  here to be forever Cool podcast. We've got people talking that
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  would normally normally talk, but we're going to leave the you
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  know, not to say the best for last or miss the numbers guy.
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  What do you talk? You know, I know you have a
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  different take on the stock 1000, so I'm going to let you
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  have you a piece man. What's?
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  Good. Well, let's start by saying
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  stock 1000 does not mean stock from the showroom 1000.
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  Right. It means a stock 1000 race bike,
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  similar to the race bike that Orange Cat team is using in the
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  stock 1000 series in Motor America.
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  You know this this this bike had alpha racing parts in it.
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  This is not a stock showroom bike, so let's start with that
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  there. All right now the first thing I
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  got to say is is Top Rank is absolutely the last guy that you
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  want to see at the track in a race because there's a reason
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  why he's a reigning world champion and why there's only
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  one other guy in World Super bike that he can can even smell
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  his exhaust. If Nicola Buliga wasn't racing
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  in World Super Bike this year, Top Rack would run away with the
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  series because nobody else is touching it.
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  So right off the bat, Top Rack is going to come with plus 3
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  seconds in his pocket. To anybody that's racing in the
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  US on the same bike, you know, that's just what he is, man.
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  And then again, as Reese was saying, then you add the Pirelli
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  factor and I know there's a lot of ball riders out there that
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  are like, oh, you know, tires, tires, tires make a difference.
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  Don't sleep on tires. The only reason bikes can do
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  what they can do today is because the tires have evolved
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  to allow them to do what they can do today.
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  Take a 26 Moto GP Ducati and put it on a set of 22,000 and five
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  Michelins. It won't do the times that it's
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  doing today. Tires evolve and tires allow
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  bikes to evolve because you can get more out of the bike onto
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  the track through the tires. Last time I checked, I haven't
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  seen a bike riding around in rims doing much.
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  The tires that were put the power to the ground, they put
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  the inputs to the ground, they make the bike turn, they make
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  the bike stop and everything else.
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  And Pirelli is absolutely a superior tire to the Dunlops
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  that are being used in the US today.
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  With that said on Dunlops top rack would still go 3 seconds
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  faster than anybody else in the US.
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  I'm sorry, but he would also crash his brains out especially
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  if it was on the tires that motor America's using.
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  And Reese, you can you can confirm with this, Dunlop has
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  not made a tire in the US in over a year now.
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  Their factory closed. They're still giving tires and
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  selling tires that were made over a year ago, sometimes two
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  years ago. So if you go around the Motor
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  America paddock, if you don't see a Dunlop tire that was made
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  outside the country, that shit has an expiration date.
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  And it's not within the last year.
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  Like there's tires out there in Motor America that say built in
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  22, built in 23. You know, when Pirelli went to
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  Moto 2 and Moto 3, all of a sudden all the Moto 2 and Moto 3
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  times went a second, a second and a quarter or a second and a
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  half faster. Same tracks, same bikes as last
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  year, same riders as last year, but they're going a second
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  faster. Why?
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  Because the year before they were on Dunlaps, and this year
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  they're on Pirelli's. Why do you see so many Moto 2
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  and Moto 3 lap records falling left and right?
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  Tires make a difference. I'm not saying Pirelli is the
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  greatest tire ever made, but it's definitely at the very tip
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  of the spear, man, you know? And it's definitely at the very
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  tip of the spear. If you look at Moto America and
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  you look at the Super Bike Times, there's Super Bikes is
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  still running the US spec Dunlop tire.
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  This is the last year that they're running the US spec
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  tire. If you look at Super Sport, go
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  look at the times from last year to this year.
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  Why? Because they're running the
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  Japan spec tire. Now only Super Sport is running
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  the tire. OK, so.
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  So for all the Internet engineers, tires make a
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  difference. Not to be confused with the
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  other I triple E. Tires make a massive difference
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  and and again, there's a lot of great tire companies out there,
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  but at the very top, people really do have to give the
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  flowers to Pirelli because anytime they step into a series,
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  that series goes faster, it doesn't go slower.
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  And, and I really want to see what they're going to do when
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  they step into Moto GP, because I don't think they're going to
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  come with a tire that has the issues that they're currently
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  having now. I think they're going to try to
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  resolve the tire pressure issues so they can get rid of that.
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  I think they're going to give them a compound that all the
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  riders are going to like. I mean, they've been making
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  bikes go fast for a very long time in world Super bike.
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  And if they can take that technology and bring it over, I
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  think you just going to see guys pushing the limits even further
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  and the bikes going even faster. And you know, again, top rack
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  would still, I hate to say it, I mean, he would wipe the floor
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  with anybody in the US because he's top rack.
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  It's the same way as Mark Marquez if he came here.
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  And like, yeah, I'm going to race this weekend in more
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  America. Just stay in your pit, bro.
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  I'm going to save all my money from this weekend.
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  I'm not even going to that track because there's certain guys,
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  I'm sorry, but there's certain guys that that the level of
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  talent and the level of what they can do is just that next
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  three or four runs higher than anybody else can seem to get to.
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  Like there's, you know, there's natural talent that you can't
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  teach. You can't learn it.
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  You can't no matter how many laps you do, this guy can just
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  do that extra one or two things that nobody else can do, man.
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  And I mean, when I saw that lap time, I was like, man, that dude
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  is for lying. Lying, Lying 264A6 Four.
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  Jesus Christ. You know, I don't, I don't know
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  if you guys saw the the interview with Johnny Ray and
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  Tap Rock and your boy Alec close on that podcast, but it seems
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  like top Rock gave Johnny Jonathan Ray a lot of credit in
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  learning how to become a champion, learning how to push
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  when even your bike, you know, is it moves like a tractor and
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  stuff like that. So I don't know if you guys saw
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  that and with your thoughts on that before we move on.
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  And also, you know, is this enough to kind of say mode
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  America has to do more for next season, Although sounds like
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  they're going to be going with the the European compound
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  version of. The Japanese compound.
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  Japanese. Yeah, I saw a little bit of that
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  interview. I didn't catch the whole thing.
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  I actually want to. I've downloaded it so I can
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  listen to it tomorrow since I'll be on the road for several
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  hours. But it's if there's one thing
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  that I've always seen consistently in every interview,
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  the top racks ever done is he has a joyfulness to him.
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  Like, I don't think I've ever seen a racer enjoy being on a
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  motorcycle more. You know, like the the the Oh,
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  by the way, this is the only stunter I know that actually
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  knows how to ride a bike. Right, he is sorry.
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  Sorry to disappoint everybody that's doing wheelies for a
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  mile. This is the only guy that could
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  do wheelie for a mile. I'll stop you for a mile but
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  then also blow the doors off you on the track.
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  But this dude legitimately loves being on a motorcycle and he has
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  a humility to him and a humbleness to him where it, you
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  know, it doesn't hurt him to give people props, which is very
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  rare when you're at the top echelon of of a competition
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  sport like this. You typically don't give other
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  people their, their, their, their just desserts or, or give
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  them credit. And when I heard him talking
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  about that Ray, I mean, you know, Ray's not hasn't done well
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  the last couple years, but this guy has won a multitude of
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  championships. In a row.
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  In a row, yeah. Not in between losing a race
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  here and there like 6 or seven in a row out of Kawasaki.
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  That race is nowhere else in the world.
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  Right, As Sam Lowe said, you know, I couldn't ride that bike.
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  And this guy is, you know, fighting for the podium.
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  I'm. I'm like sixth or fifth, yeah.
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  So again, top, you know, before the new wave of younger riders
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  come like Ray was the benchmark. So for him to say, you know what
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  Ray kind of and again top rack was it on a Kawasaki in super
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  sports. So he was part of the Kawasaki
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  team. So he probably did get a lot of
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  input from Ray. And Super bike, he was on Super,
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  Super bike. Yeah, yeah, we switched.
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  But but again, like that's I think that's a really important
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  part of being a champion is honoring and respecting and
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  looking at what the Champions before you did and the legacy
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  they put in place. And then you try to add to that
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  legacy with your own name and with what you do.
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  And then hopefully, you know, at some point, Top Rack pays it
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  down, pays it forward and hopes a future champion, you know,
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  kind of find his way and get to that same points.
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  Yeah. I love seeing that stuff, man.
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  That's the kind of thing that we need more of a in the sport, to
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  be honest with you. No doubt, no doubt.
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  And before we praise Yamaha and the FIM endorse series, Reese or
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  TJ got anything to add about Top Rock, Johnny Ray and and that
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  section and also just him, you know, is his last season
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  Jonathan Ray. I mean, I definitely want to
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  like Lewis and I want to download that and and watch it
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  myself because that didn't I really see much about it.
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  But yeah, Top Rock is a cool guy.
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  He's very humble. I mean, and it's just, it's just
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  good to see what he's doing. Jonathan Ray is just, he's just
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  a legend as well, you know, and his own right for winning all
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  those titles and stuff like that.
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  So you got to pay respect to the to the and stuff like that.
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  So but yeah, I definitely want to see, but I also want to know
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  like how top track, I want to know who else was at this track
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  with top track really Because I told her because the same like
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  it was just him. No, it was Nate, Nate Kern, the
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  Orange Cat Racing guys. I mean there were some amateur
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  racers and stuff like that. Like it was it was a a full on
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  like BMW event, but there was some other.
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  How was that crazy? Like Andrew Lee was there, Jason
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  Uribe was there and a couple of others, but even those guys,
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  they were on the track with him. They were like, hey bro, this
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  guy's this guy's the truth, man, this guy's the truth.
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  That's. Pretty cool though, you know,
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  it's just just a track that you probably just end up adding or,
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  or paid good money to go to to to race with those good guys and
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  and top tracks. I mean it, the one thing that it
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  kind of does hurt is like after seeing him at CODA, man, I would
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  I would wish World Super Bike would come back to the US and do
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  a round in the US. Yeah, man, it definitely didn't
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  throw that on the calendar. Yeah, Laguna Seca.
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  You know, even if it's going back to Laguna Seca, go
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  something like we got to get a World Super Bike round in the
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  US. We can't just have one Moto GP
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  round and nothing else. I I completely agree, Reece
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  before you, you know, you switch cameras.
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  I hit the wrong button. I mean, you guys are taking
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  notice over there, you know, in, in Yamaha camp or what he's
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  doing. I mean, you always take notice
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  to what Top Rack's doing. I mean, Top Rack is like, he's
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  just an anomaly. He's an alien, but he's a very
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  humble guy. You know, he like Lewis said, he
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  loves the ride. He he loves doing what he does.
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  And he actually gives praise to the guys that paved the way for
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  him. And he's he's one of, like you
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  said, he's one of the only stunt riders that you can see actually
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  blow the doors off you and just blow by you like like you're
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  standing still. But he's a very humble guy.
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  And he's just, he loves doing what he does.
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  So, I mean, you have to give you have to give credit to that
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  because he he understands, Hey, this person has done what's
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  Johnny Ray was six in a row, so 6.
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  Or seven? Yeah.
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  Like he understands that and that's not, that's not an easy
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  task. That's something that you can't
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  ride and not many people can ride.
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  And that's nothing that's, you know, falls short of not being
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  recognized. So he he recognizes that and
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  that's something that sets him apart from a lot of other guys.
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  I I agree and and we've said it on the show already, it seems
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  like lately Ray doesn't get the credit like, like people are
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  acting like, you know, he, he, he never won a title, much less
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  six in a row to be the only guy to do it and stuff like that.
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  It hopefully as as time goes on, more people recognize that.
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  But Speaking of recognizing stuff, look, I didn't really
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  notice what's going on either. The FM I FM FIM endurance world
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  championship. This is a big deal.
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  Yamaha looks like they they still won, you know, what are
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  your thoughts on the endurance series, the championship?
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  You know, 8 hours for most of the racetrack, but 24 hours for
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  Le Mans on a bike headlights you got you got flashing things on
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  your body if you crash because it gets dark, you know, you know
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  that kind of thing. What do you guys thoughts on
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  endurance racing and should we have more of it?
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  And we have it in, you know, the Azra series and the Wherewa
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  series and stuff like that. I've, I've participated in, in
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  one of the endurance, you know, a couple of three hours, a
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  couple of five hours. I, I, I think it's, you know,
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  it, it kind of shows you who you are as it tells you the truth
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  about yourself. I kind of thing.
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  What are you guys thoughts on the, the, the the series and,
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  and the weekend that just happened?
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  We'll start with TJ. I mean, yeah, it's it's it's
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  unfortunately I didn't see like the whole race or anything like
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  that. I just saw Eclipse.
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  But overall I think endurance racing is really cool.
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  Definitely got to be in shape and and mentally ready for that.
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  8 hours is a very long time and Lamar's 24 hours is just insane.
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  But I think it like we were talking earlier, it should be
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  like market a little more because they don't really know
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  about it. It it seems like it is a series
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  that goes on and we just caught the the last round of it.
• 19:55
  But just to see Vice in a different aspect, like, you
• 20:00
  know, you don't think Vice can race that night.
• 20:02
  You know, like what precautions do you take right at night?
• 20:04
  Do you do you turn it down from like?
• 20:08
  You know, mapping 3 to mapping two or something like that.
• 20:11
  Like take down the RPS a little bit or extra lights.
• 20:14
  What do you think? I take advice.
• 20:16
  From all the all the all. The riders, they got all the
• 20:22
  lights on their bikes in the city, you know, So I mean, and
• 20:24
  then it's just pretty cool to see though.
• 20:26
  So I think it it should bring more attention to it.
• 20:30
  So definitely next year going into the series, I'm going to
• 20:34
  definitely, you know, watch it with the mods first.
• 20:36
  It seems like it usually is. And for some reason Suzuki is
• 20:40
  the biggest one, which I we were talking about, I thought was the
• 20:43
  only one as well. But like we was talking about
• 20:46
  there's a whole series. So it was really cool.
• 20:49
  Right. Reese, what are your thoughts?
• 20:51
  You know your guys ever think about going to go do some of
• 20:53
  these endurance races? No, you got to be in shape for
• 20:59
  that, man. You got to be mentally prepared,
• 21:02
  physically prepared. I mean, that's that's a lot. 24
• 21:05
  hours and 8 hours. I mean, I don't know if
• 21:08
  anybody's riding a bike for 8 hours, but that's a lot.
• 21:12
  I've ridden behind Lewis for about an hour and I was dead.
• 21:18
  So it's not, it's not something easy.
• 21:21
  I mean, I didn't get a chance to see the four AI saw a couple of
• 21:24
  it, bits of it, but I think it's pretty neat.
• 21:27
  You know, like you, like I said, I need to advertise a little bit
• 21:29
  more, you know, and make it a little bit more public so we all
• 21:32
  can. A lot of people can watch it
• 21:34
  more and bring it, bring it more to the forefront instead of just
• 21:39
  kind of talking about it. But I think it'd be nice to
• 21:42
  actually go see it personally, me and myself, you know, I
• 21:45
  think. You know, I don't know if you
• 21:48
  saw the clip where one guy's bike, he crashed and the bike
• 21:52
  caught on fire. And I mean, the bike is like a
• 21:54
  like a like a barn fire and he's running to the bike like he can
• 21:58
  get on for a second. Like, you know, what is that
• 22:00
  with riders? Are they just in in a different
• 22:02
  space that they don't like see like there's a big ball of flame
• 22:06
  they run into? Well, no, they do see it, but
• 22:08
  their, their, their mindset is like, Hey, if I can get it back
• 22:11
  to the pit, at least ride it back to the pit and get it
• 22:14
  fixed. Like if there's a red flag, I
• 22:16
  can get back in the race. You know, that's their mindset.
• 22:19
  Always get that bike back to us to get it fixed to get it so we
• 22:22
  can get, you know, they can get back in the race just in case
• 22:25
  there is a red flag. And normally sometimes, a lot of
• 22:28
  times if they crash bad or anything like that, they're
• 22:31
  going to red flag it. But if they can ride it back on
• 22:33
  their own power, they can actually, you know, repeat.
• 22:37
  That's that's, that's one repair job right there, Lewis.
• 22:41
  Ask you just off. Ask yourself here, because I
• 22:45
  didn't notice until the crash that you know the guy, the
• 22:48
  writers, their their suit light up and stuff like that.
• 22:52
  Can you talk a little bit about that and and also what your
• 22:54
  thoughts on the race? Yeah.
• 22:56
  Well, the technology, well, when you're doing endurance racing
• 22:59
  specifically, and it's endurance racing that you got to, you got
• 23:03
  to consider the weather becomes a factor in endurance racing
• 23:07
  over the long stretch. So you might start, it's sunny
• 23:10
  and 45 minutes in, it starts to rain, it gets dark, it gets
• 23:13
  cloudy. If you're racing overnight, like
• 23:15
  in the Le Mans 24 Hour, you're racing overnight and a lot of
• 23:18
  these tracks aren't equipped with lights.
• 23:20
  So the only light you have are with the few lights that are on
• 23:23
  the track and the lights that are on your bike.
• 23:25
  So in the event you crash, you want some way to be seen.
• 23:29
  Because if you crash in the middle of the darkness and
• 23:31
  somebody's coming around the the turn behind you at full pop and
• 23:35
  they didn't see you crash and you're laying on the track, you
• 23:38
  become a speed bump. So you know, we used to have a
• 23:41
  suit that actually had an LED on the back of the hump and if you
• 23:44
  crash and the airbag went off, the LED would start blinking.
• 23:47
  So that way people can kind of see that you're on the ground or
• 23:50
  something like that. But in these particular races
• 23:53
  where they're going overnights and they have weather
• 23:54
  conditions, a lot of them do have little LED pieces that they
• 23:57
  put on their suits and so forth. So in the event they crash, they
• 24:00
  do start to blink. Some of them actually stay on
• 24:02
  the entire race or they turn them on and they do all the laps
• 24:05
  with the light on so that they can just be seen.
• 24:08
  Because you got to think in an 8 hour endurance race it it's
• 24:14
  going to show you what you're made of.
• 24:16
  Like I like to equate it to kind of what Habib Namaganera from
• 24:20
  MMA said one time. He says he takes people into
• 24:23
  deep waters and they find out who they really are.
• 24:27
  And that's what endurance racing does.
• 24:29
  Endurance racing takes you into deep waters and you get to find
• 24:33
  out what you're made of. Are you going to make the 8
• 24:36
  hours? Are you going to make this 24
• 24:38
  hours? Are you going to be able to
• 24:39
  rotate with one or two other guys?
• 24:42
  Because I think some of these teams are usually three riders,
• 24:45
  sometimes they're two riders. But think about it, 2 riders
• 24:48
  over 24 hours, you're talking about you're going to split 12
• 24:50
  hours riding between each other. So you're going to have at least
• 24:53
  like a 45 to one hour stint in between.
• 24:56
  And you're still going to have some pit stops in between
• 24:59
  because you got to change tires, you got to refuel.
• 25:01
  I mean, you really do go into some deep waters and you find
• 25:04
  out what you're made of, man, your steel is different.
• 25:07
  Plus it, it also engages the rest of the team.
• 25:09
  Because if you think about a normal race, the team preps your
• 25:11
  bike, you go and they sit back and they hope everything they
• 25:14
  did works, but it's on you now with pit stops, you know, the
• 25:19
  team actually becomes a very important part of just the
• 25:22
  overall race itself, not just sitting back and see what
• 25:25
  happens, but now they're actually involved in the race.
• 25:27
  I've always said I would like to see a couple of more rounds in
• 25:31
  the US that are kind of like Daytona, where pit stops are
• 25:33
  required because the length of the race is so long.
• 25:37
  Even if we just do it maybe at one or two tracks, I think it
• 25:41
  would be that extra bit of like enjoyment and entertainment as a
• 25:46
  spectator sport. Like if we took the the Coda
• 25:48
  race for instance, and took it from 22 laps and put it up to 50
• 25:54
  laps. That would be dope.
• 25:56
  Let's make. You're trying to make us.
• 25:57
  You're trying to make us cost more money, man.
• 25:58
  Let's, hey, let's and all right, we won't have two races this
• 26:03
  weekend, but we're going to have one long ass race this weekend.
• 26:06
  It's still the same amount of money as you would with two
• 26:08
  races, except now it's all happening over the next two
• 26:11
  hours. We're going to see what team,
• 26:13
  what bike and what rider is going to be able to to to pull
• 26:17
  it off because there ain't going to be no chubby riders left,
• 26:20
  man. These guys are going to have to
• 26:21
  get on their bikes and make sure they're in shape because you.
• 26:23
  Have to get rid of those quarter mile mechanics and get these
• 26:26
  diesel mechanics to be survive 8 hours.
• 26:30
  I mean, that's a, that's a really different bike than a
• 26:33
  than a super bike. You add in a pit stop, you add
• 26:36
  in, you know, a tire change, you do all these things and now, at
• 26:39
  least for those one or two rounds, you got these extra
• 26:42
  couple elements. It's one of the reasons I love
• 26:44
  Daytona. I only love Daytona because of
• 26:46
  the pit stops because now there's a whole different
• 26:49
  element that you have to take into account and, and it just
• 26:52
  you know, it's, it's a different level of excitement, man.
• 26:55
  You know, a guy could have a good pit stop and all of a
• 26:58
  sudden gained 3 or 4 spaces or a guy that was walking away with
• 27:01
  that could have a shit pit stop and all of a sudden, you know,
• 27:05
  the gaps are all gone and now you got to start fighting again.
• 27:08
  You can't just walk away and it's a parade for the next 1214
• 27:11
  laps. No, no, no, it's a race man.
• 27:13
  It's a race till the checkered flag comes out.
• 27:16
  Yeah, no, I, I listen. I I did it once and I hope to do
• 27:19
  some more so you know I have a sign up list guys let me know if
• 27:24
  you go. Yeah, exactly.
• 27:28
  Yeah. You want to talk that crap, now
• 27:31
  you go out there. I got a question though.
• 27:37
  Why isn't Daytona a part of the Motor America Series?
• 27:41
  I mean, I know it's like a classic.
• 27:44
  Oh, OK. Next year, so next year will be.
• 27:47
  Starting next year, the points, actually there will be points
• 27:50
  that count towards a championship because this is one
• 27:52
  of the reasons a lot of the teams haven't been going to
• 27:54
  Daytona because it's very expensive to go and the points
• 27:58
  didn't count for the championship.
• 28:00
  It's very expensive. Two bricks.
• 28:02
  I mean, dude, just renting one room in Daytona for four days,
• 28:06
  you're talking thousands of dollars.
• 28:07
  So if you got a pit crew of like 10 people, mechanics, everything
• 28:11
  else plus your racers just in hotels, you're going to spend at
• 28:14
  least 30 grand. Most of the teams actually rent
• 28:16
  big Airbnb's and Reese. You can you can confirm like
• 28:19
  most of the teams try to find like 5 or 6 bedroom or three or
• 28:23
  four bedroom houses and rent the Airbnb and everybody sleeps in
• 28:27
  the same house because just to try to keep the cost down
• 28:30
  because a hotel room in Daytona during that stretch.
• 28:33
  You talking between 3:00 and $600 a night?
• 28:36
  Yeah, and then you got to think about it.
• 28:38
  This is another thing that people don't realize and
• 28:41
  everybody gets pissed. But Daytona, those bikes get
• 28:44
  used one time for the year. That's it.
• 28:47
  That's it. You make one bike for one race,
• 28:51
  that's it. That bike sits in the garage for
• 28:53
  the rest of the time. So you spent about $60,000 on
• 28:56
  just one bike for one race? Cerise, tell us how you really
• 29:01
  feel about the the news coming out.
• 29:04
  I ain't got nothing to worry about.
• 29:06
  Supermarket there, I'm good, I'm good.
• 29:10
  I'll be over there like hey how y'all doing so?
• 29:14
  I'm just, I'm just glad that I'm going to have like a hospitality
• 29:17
  suite that I can go eat their food now because.
• 29:19
  Well, see, now he has a hospitality suite, so that just
• 29:22
  told me I'm only 30 minutes down the way, so I'm coming to the
• 29:24
  hospitality suite. No, I was talking about yours.
• 29:28
  I was going to go eat an attack. Are are you guys not thinking
• 29:33
  about running the 200 because of that?
• 29:36
  I mean, or is it just the the Super sport folks need to worry
• 29:39
  about that? That's just super sport.
• 29:41
  It's just like when you're when you're.
• 29:43
  So noun. That is part of the points.
• 29:46
  It's kind of hard for like just us to just jump in and just do
• 29:49
  one round because it's part of the points.
• 29:51
  It doesn't count for us, but then it actually counts for the
• 29:53
  Super sport guys. And you know, you got your guys
• 29:56
  getting ready for the Super bike, They're getting ready for
• 29:58
  the Super bike series, they're getting ready for coming up,
• 30:01
  what the first round is, what Barber again or Atlanta.
• 30:04
  So they're getting ready for, you know, we're doing testing
• 30:07
  and prep and getting ready for that, you know, so it's kind of
• 30:10
  not pointless for us to go. Right now I, I say, I hear you
• 30:14
  say it's one bike, but is it really just a, a whole bike?
• 30:17
  It's not just the engine, not just the tranny, Is it literally
• 30:21
  just chassis? Everything is is just for that.
• 30:24
  One bike, that's it. You can't use the same bar.
• 30:28
  Bar handles nothing. It's got to be a different.
• 30:30
  Literally, literally, the bike that we ran at Daytona 200, it's
• 30:34
  still sitting in the shop. It still sits there.
• 30:38
  Wow. Why though?
• 30:40
  Why? Because it's just too much to
• 30:42
  like transfer or it's just what's required at Daytona.
• 30:45
  It's just too much. So you got suspension, you got
• 30:47
  tires that certain. You only can run those tires
• 30:50
  that don't like getting you at Daytona.
• 30:54
  Then you have a bigger gas tank. You got a bigger gas tank, you
• 30:58
  know what I mean? You got that, you got
• 30:59
  everything. It's just everything.
• 31:01
  Certain pieces on that bike are set up for like a quick change
• 31:05
  when we got to do the the tire change, it's certain things are
• 31:08
  set up on there for that. So once you're done with it,
• 31:11
  what we're going to use that bike for.
• 31:13
  'Cause you're just going to sit out bike like Top Rock.
• 31:17
  Yeah, sure. I.
• 31:18
  Mean, that makes sense. I mean, and Derrick is set up
• 31:21
  for our endurance, so pretty much so.
• 31:24
  It's just, it's just a lot if you, there's a interview when I
• 31:28
  think it was on Instagram that Richie from Ray Hall put out and
• 31:32
  he was saying how much it's going to cost them to do, you
• 31:36
  know, for the Daytona 200. Yeah, I think it was like 6080
• 31:39
  grand just in one bike. So imagine you got 2 riders.
• 31:43
  There's, you know, 160,000 right there.
• 31:47
  You just spent, that's just on the bikes now.
• 31:49
  You still got to bring your riders in.
• 31:51
  You still got to, you know, you may not have to house them.
• 31:53
  They can house themselves or then you still got to bring your
• 31:56
  crew in. You still got to house, you
• 31:58
  know, make sure they have a room.
• 31:59
  You still got to, you know, pay for their flights.
• 32:01
  You still got to pay for their food, their lunch while they're
• 32:03
  there. What's the next town over?
• 32:07
  I'm just sleeping the next town over.
• 32:09
  I mean, the next town over is just expensive in Daytona
• 32:11
  because remember, it happens during bike week.
• 32:13
  Yeah, yeah. True.
• 32:15
  Yeah, I was going to say this too.
• 32:17
  So I mean, when, as I know, I, I didn't mean to show to go this
• 32:22
  route, but we might as well talk about it when Azra was running
• 32:26
  the series, you could just show up on a bike and race it, you
• 32:30
  know what I'm saying? And now you're looking at these
• 32:32
  numbers is, you know, is it good for Daytona?
• 32:37
  Are we going to see fewer riders?
• 32:38
  Because, you know, listen, man, we talk about sun and people
• 32:42
  and, and what Top Rock did or, or, you know, stop by Scott
• 32:45
  Greenwood trying to break people's will.
• 32:47
  When people hear that, you know, these teams are spending 120 and
• 32:52
  you know, dudes looking like I got, I got 8 grand.
• 32:55
  Like, why am I going to go as, as one of these writers who's
• 32:58
  really fast? But you know how you how do you
• 33:00
  compete with that? I mean, you want me to answer?
• 33:04
  I'll answer that. It's just like, OK, so you take
• 33:08
  the NBA, right? You got the top players.
• 33:11
  What are they spending on? Nutrition, training, everything
• 33:16
  else. They're the top guys for a
• 33:18
  reason, right? You're not running a charity
• 33:20
  case, you're running, you're in the pros.
• 33:23
  This is what it is. This is what you got to do,
• 33:25
  right? You're not here to the pros are
• 33:27
  here to win, to separate the, you know, the the amateurs or
• 33:32
  the club rider, right? They're, they're there.
• 33:33
  It's the same thing what they're doing in the stock 1000 class.
• 33:36
  You know, people complaining, but you're here to win, you're
• 33:39
  here to compete. You're in the pro series for a
• 33:42
  reason. You're not here in the club
• 33:44
  series. So you want to step up into the
• 33:46
  pro series. Now this is what you got to
• 33:47
  compete with. You know, it's this is this is
• 33:50
  the the nature of the beast. You're in the pros.
• 33:53
  They're not in the club series no more.
• 33:55
  And then you get people that want to complain about it.
• 33:57
  But then when it goes away, you're like, oh, well, it went
• 34:00
  away. Racing went away.
• 34:02
  Well, it was just a club race. You can do that anywhere, right.
• 34:06
  So this is the pros. The Daytona 200 isn't anywhere.
• 34:11
  It's not anywhere, but it's the pros running it now, right?
• 34:14
  You everybody got mad when the pros weren't there, so now the
• 34:17
  pros are here. So it's either hey, you got to
• 34:20
  step up or hey, here's the bench right here for you.
• 34:24
  Watch. Take a seat and watch.
• 34:25
  And here, Dion Sanders tell it, you can't learn anything from
• 34:29
  the bench. It's sad to say man, so.
• 34:38
  All right, let's talk about this weekend in in the Motor America
• 34:41
  Jersey. The last round, I wish I was
• 34:43
  there. All you 3 guys are going to be
• 34:45
  there. I think Reese is probably going
• 34:47
  to lose the most weight, you know what I'm saying?
• 34:52
  But let's talk about Jersey. We'll hear from TJ and and Lewis
• 34:57
  and then we'll talk to Reese. I think it's your second year
• 35:00
  going, TJ. So what does like Jersey mean
• 35:03
  for you? And checking out Motor America
• 35:05
  and kind of I know who your guy is, are we all know who your guy
• 35:08
  is. So we don't have to necessarily.
• 35:10
  We already know who you want to win so.
• 35:17
  Who is it? Who is it?
• 35:19
  Right. What are you talking about?
• 35:23
  Come on man, is not. Your guy.
• 35:24
  Oh, God, yeah. Don't do that to me right now.
• 35:26
  Don't. Do that.
• 35:30
  Don't do that to me in front of recent.
• 35:35
  We got. We got people that listen to the
• 35:38
  show. Yeah, the big.
• 35:39
  Heron fans that listen man, no, no, no, I'm a, I'm a like I
• 35:42
  said, I'm a Josh Heron fan before I got into racing like
• 35:46
  that was my guy and I actually went to a Ducati event, was on
• 35:50
  the track with them. So like, and I had conversations
• 35:53
  with them. He used my toolbox and all that
• 35:55
  good stuff. So I had a little site, you
• 35:57
  know, talk with him and stuff like that.
• 36:00
  But he. He stole your time, didn't he?
• 36:03
  No. No.
• 36:04
  You. Know, I don't know what he was
• 36:09
  using actually he was trying to install a camera onto his bike
• 36:13
  and. He needed some.
• 36:15
  Yeah, so, but anyway, but yeah, I definitely like to root for,
• 36:20
  you know, Yamaha as well. Bobby Foley's been doing really
• 36:23
  well. Like he surprised me from the
• 36:25
  time he joined the team. Like I didn't expect him to be
• 36:28
  runner, you know, in the league of the championship.
• 36:30
  So so I'm definitely going to be ruined for Bobby falling for
• 36:34
  one. But you know, Josh Herman at the
• 36:36
  end of the day is my guy. So like, I know how hard he's
• 36:38
  going to try. And like he said, all the
• 36:41
  excuses he's going to give to the story that's going on.
• 36:43
  He doesn't want to lose his number one plate.
• 36:46
  So like he's going to do whatever he can to try to
• 36:49
  survive throughout the season. So it's going to be 3 races this
• 36:53
  weekend. It's going to be interesting.
• 36:54
  But you know, Ducati or Yamaha, that's what I'm going for it.
• 36:58
  But I'm Bobby pulls it out the shows.
• 37:00
  All right, all right, balance answer, man, I'm a big fan of
• 37:04
  the Jersey track. I'm not going to lie, when I
• 37:06
  first got there, it was it was weird for me and doing enough
• 37:10
  races on it. I'm a really big fan of that
• 37:13
  track. It should be a fun and
• 37:15
  entertaining time. What are your thoughts, Lewis?
• 37:17
  I know you're kind of, we don't want to tell anybody you're
• 37:19
  going to be working, but you're going to be working I'm.
• 37:21
  Going to be working. I usually when I, I, I, I watch
• 37:25
  the races, but in between, like I'm pretty much working.
• 37:30
  I mean, Bobby's my boy, obviously.
• 37:32
  So, you know, I want him to win. Bobby's been in the series for a
• 37:35
  long time and I've known Bobby way longer than I should, to be
• 37:39
  honest with you. And, and you know, I, I've seen
• 37:43
  him struggle. I've seen his hard times trying
• 37:46
  to get rise, trying to, you know, be competitive and
• 37:49
  everything. And last year he had a really
• 37:51
  great opportunity with the wrench team and he really showed
• 37:54
  that. He rededicated himself to the
• 37:56
  sport and and show some, you know, some real flashes of
• 38:00
  brilliance last year and he was lucky enough to get the ride
• 38:04
  this year with Yamaha. And you know, he knows that or
• 38:08
  he knew at the beginning of the year like it was a one year
• 38:11
  deal. So he just had to kind of come
• 38:13
  into the series in the best shape that he's ever been in and
• 38:17
  focus everything he can. And and that's what he did, man.
• 38:20
  I mean, you know, during the offseason he worked out
• 38:24
  constantly. Every day he worked out.
• 38:26
  I mean, he lost, I want to say he lost about 18 lbs during the
• 38:31
  offseason. Like he trimmed down, he got in
• 38:33
  great shape. Like he really dedicated his
• 38:37
  life to this man. And it would be great if he can,
• 38:40
  if he can pull this one out man. But if he can't, I mean, the
• 38:43
  other person that I'm really happy for is is Cameron
• 38:46
  Beaulier, because the last couple of years, I mean, Cameron
• 38:49
  Beaubieu is a multi time US champion.
• 38:52
  He went to Moto 2 and he had a wretched time in Moto 2.
• 38:55
  He never really was able to put anything together.
• 38:58
  Then he came back here and you know, he's not on what you would
• 39:02
  consider the best equipment. I mean, everybody thinks that
• 39:04
  BMW is great. The BMW is great, but you know,
• 39:07
  you can hear from the people that ride it.
• 39:09
  It's also a hard bike to ride, man.
• 39:11
  The bike is not an easy bike to ride.
• 39:14
  And he's had a couple of hard years with a lot of injuries.
• 39:17
  So if he was able to pull it out also and Bobby didn't, I'd still
• 39:21
  be happy for him too. Because you know, these two
• 39:24
  guys, I've known them in a long time.
• 39:25
  I've talked to them a lot and you know, they're both in it for
• 39:29
  the love of the game. And you know, neither one of
• 39:31
  them has any guarantees for next year.
• 39:34
  Neither one of them knows where, where they're riding next year
• 39:36
  or even if they're riding at this point, even going into the
• 39:39
  last round. So both of them are going to be,
• 39:42
  you know, really trying to put it all out there.
• 39:44
  And the thing with both of them is if you watch them race, even
• 39:47
  at CODA, even when the two of them were dicing it up, they
• 39:50
  were real clean about it, man. They weren't trying to push each
• 39:52
  other off the track or do anything sketchy to each other.
• 39:56
  Like they had this mutual respect in the way that they
• 39:58
  raced each other. They raced hard, but they raced
• 40:00
  clean. And that's what I want to see,
• 40:02
  man. If these two guys can get out
• 40:03
  front and really race each other hard and clean, you you know
• 40:08
  Jersey is not a high speed track.
• 40:11
  So horsepower is not the end all and be all.
• 40:14
  So the BMW is not just going to be able to get on the throttle
• 40:16
  and pull away. It's a technique track, it's a
• 40:19
  style track, it's a technical track and it doesn't have a lot
• 40:23
  of passing areas. So you got to be super clean
• 40:25
  because if you don't pass clean, I mean, you will take yourself
• 40:28
  out as well as somebody else. So it's going to be really great
• 40:31
  to just, you know, some people don't like Jersey at the end of
• 40:35
  the year because the weather always sucks.
• 40:38
  Knock on wood. It looks like it's going to hold
• 40:40
  out this year and I hope that we get a great, you know, 3 races,
• 40:45
  man, there's three races this weekend, right, right.
• 40:48
  So it's not just, you know, Saturday and Sunday, there's
• 40:50
  like a third race that if the points are still there,
• 40:53
  literally we can have three nail biting one after the other races
• 40:58
  throughout the weekend. And I'm looking forward to it,
• 41:00
  man, I'm, I'm hoping, I'm hoping my boy comes in, it comes
• 41:04
  through because like, I know how much it means to him, man, you
• 41:07
  know, I talk to him almost every day and I just know how much
• 41:12
  it'll mean to him. No, I, I I can only imagine.
• 41:16
  And Reese, you probably know it better than all of us.
• 41:19
  You know, I'm trying to think of a basketball analogy.
• 41:22
  I think of like, you know, the Spurs and, you know, Kawhi
• 41:25
  winning young and then going to Toronto and nobody thought like
• 41:29
  he would have got anything would have happened in Toronto and he
• 41:32
  got one in Toronto. I mean, this is, you know, this
• 41:36
  is, you know, this is, I don't want to say it's a fairy tale,
• 41:39
  but you know, you know, dreamers, you know, they, they,
• 41:43
  they, they get their chance. And you know, you guys saw
• 41:47
  something in them, signed them. And I, I can't imagine any of
• 41:51
  you guys. And if you did say it, and I
• 41:52
  don't know if you can say it on air, might have joked about it,
• 41:55
  but like, hey, this guy is going to be competing for the
• 41:57
  championship at the end of the season when you signed them.
• 42:01
  But like now you are a you know, he's leading the points.
• 42:06
  You know, it can we will find out this weekend.
• 42:10
  But what are your thoughts on how he's doing?
• 42:12
  You know, when you signed him, when you guys signed him to
• 42:15
  where he is now? And and can you guys believe it
• 42:18
  was it Like, you know, you just knew this.
• 42:20
  I mean, you did talk about it, but you kind of have to talk
• 42:22
  about it, right? You can't you can't sit here and
• 42:24
  get on air and be like, yeah, we're not going to make it this
• 42:26
  year. You got to lie to yourself
• 42:28
  before you start seeing it, right?
• 42:31
  Because I have to do it. You know, it's like, you know
• 42:33
  what I mean? I'm saying here reaching out to
• 42:35
  Lewis like, hey, yeah, you want to come on the show a year ago
• 42:37
  and, and, and, you know, now, now look at us now.
• 42:40
  So, you know, you know, life is about dreaming.
• 42:43
  So you know what? What are your thoughts, Reese?
• 42:47
  I mean, you got to look at last year, you got to look at the
• 42:49
  year Bobby had on a wrench team. I mean, you knew signing him
• 42:52
  that he was going to be one of the top contenders coming in.
• 42:54
  I mean that he did some things on that R1 that nobody else was
• 42:58
  doing. Our guys were hurt, you know,
• 43:02
  Jake and and Cam P was was hurt or and then Jake stepped away to
• 43:07
  get his, you know, stuff, you know, repaired and we had our
• 43:10
  substitutions. But knowing him coming in and
• 43:13
  when we signed him, we knew he could compete for the top spot
• 43:16
  and the top guys. A lot of people, a lot of teams
• 43:20
  had us, you know, checked out saying, you know, we're not
• 43:24
  going to win. So for us to be here, we're just
• 43:27
  we're we're enjoying the moment and we're going to go for it as
• 43:30
  as best we can. You know, we always know that
• 43:33
  we're going to compete and we come every weekend to compete.
• 43:39
  You know, we don't, we don't, we don't bring nothing a week and
• 43:41
  we, we bring everything we got and say, hey, let's go.
• 43:44
  And you know, we let's make the R1 great again.
• 43:50
  You guys don't bring any Team Wu chains with you.
• 43:53
  No, I don't bring the Team Wu chains.
• 43:57
  Yeah, we don't need that. Bring the good.
• 43:58
  Stuff breaking. Not nothing, but the good stuff.
• 44:02
  So you know, what is the mood like Reese man, for this
• 44:05
  weekend? As much as you can give out.
• 44:07
  Obviously weather may play a big part.
• 44:09
  I haven't checked the satellite to see if there's going to be
• 44:12
  any rain and stuff like that. But is it business as usual or
• 44:17
  is it kind of, it depends after the first practice and see what
• 44:20
  people's times are and stuff like that and then you know, the
• 44:23
  game plan happens from there? No, as it goes in as business as
• 44:27
  usual. I mean, if it rains, it rains.
• 44:30
  I mean that R1 in the in the wet is one of the most dominant
• 44:33
  bikes in the wet. And I mean rich is going to make
• 44:36
  you a wet specialist. I mean, he in that bike in the
• 44:39
  wet is is phenomenal. Bobby used to didn't like the
• 44:43
  wet. Now he doesn't mind the wet, you
• 44:45
  know, so we we were come in business usual.
• 44:49
  If it's rain or shine, that's that's just go.
• 44:53
  Right Lewis who who's taking it? You know, we we we you know TJ
• 44:59
  got Heron is is your money on? I mean, you have, I guess you
• 45:04
  got to say Bobby, you can't say I.
• 45:06
  Got yeah, I got to say Bobby, man, like, you know, I have to
• 45:08
  put all my chips in on Bobby because again, man, three years
• 45:13
  ago, Bobby wasn't even racing, man, you know, And then he got
• 45:17
  an opportunity to race a couple of baggers to make some quick
• 45:20
  money doing the dash for cash and things like that.
• 45:23
  And that kind of evolved into doing more baggers the following
• 45:26
  year. And that kind of evolved into
• 45:28
  him getting the wrench ride. And so, you know, the past 3-4
• 45:32
  years for Bobby, I mean, unemployed, employed,
• 45:35
  unemployed, you know, racing a bagger hoping to win 5000 bucks
• 45:41
  so he can, you know, pay some bills.
• 45:43
  Like he's, he's had a real tumultuous last few years and,
• 45:47
  and, and, and dude, I mean, this is, this is his, his
• 45:53
  opportunity. I mean, you know, you don't get
• 45:55
  too many bites of the carrot at this age.
• 45:57
  I had to say, you know, Bobby's in his 30s and you know, in your
• 46:00
  30s, you don't get a ton of bites in the carrots with a lot
• 46:03
  of young kids coming up. So I really hope he pulls it
• 46:06
  out, man. I hope everything comes together
• 46:08
  and you know, he, he's able to do it, man.
• 46:11
  Hey drinks and drinks on TJ. We win too.
• 46:16
  I got you, I got you. I'll be there till the last race
• 46:20
  and I'll see what happens. No doubt and I I want to shout
• 46:23
  out to Nathan Bettencourt and I hope he does well.
• 46:27
  He had a giveaway last night for some tickets and be forever cool
• 46:32
  one. I was able to donate those
• 46:34
  tickets to TJ and he's going to show up and and stuff like that.
• 46:39
  I mean, hopefully we'll we'll have him on the show in the near
• 46:41
  future. He's a young and up and coming
• 46:44
  before we get into Moto GP. Speaking of young and up and
• 46:46
  coming, Donna CEO has on social media is if it's to be believed,
• 46:54
  he wants more people in Moto GP other than the Italians in the
• 46:59
  Spaniards. What are you guys thoughts on
• 47:01
  that? Because I'm thinking some
• 47:02
  Jamaicans already. Yeah, my side of the team, the
• 47:06
  the side of the team, but no, like, yeah, I mean, it needs to
• 47:12
  be diverse more, you know, it was just just, I don't know, I
• 47:17
  just feel like it should be more diverse.
• 47:19
  And obviously you have to be up to speed and, and be competitive
• 47:25
  because like, you know, if you, if you're not fast enough, you
• 47:28
  can't be out there. But, you know, develop A-Team
• 47:31
  and and make it more diverse. Well, it's good to hear and say
• 47:34
  that. And then not, not to cut off
• 47:37
  real quick, but yeah, I was going to North America anyway.
• 47:41
  But I appreciate that in court, like we get those tickets.
• 47:44
  So I appreciate your rights for that.
• 47:46
  That's what's up, that's what's up.
• 47:47
  What are your what are your thoughts, Reese on on on that?
• 47:50
  I mean, is it is lip service because like TJS say, man, you
• 47:54
  got it. You got to have the pace.
• 47:55
  You can't. I mean, it's, it's, you know,
• 47:57
  there's some things in life that you can show up and, and maybe
• 48:00
  not be, you know, good at, you know, like maybe making coffee
• 48:04
  and burgers, but you know, it like there's a lot more that
• 48:09
  goes behind being good enough to compete at that level.
• 48:15
  A Stanka, you're dead, man. We might have a team, but I
• 48:23
  mean, there is a lot more than just to, you know, just to
• 48:26
  showing up and race. I mean you got to have pace.
• 48:29
  You got to have, you know, the, the, the right crew behind you,
• 48:32
  you know, the people you could trust.
• 48:34
  I mean, because, you know, at the end of the day, the the
• 48:36
  riders are just riders. They're just there.
• 48:39
  You know, they're, they're entrusting their team to put the
• 48:42
  bike together, the guys that have this bike ready for them
• 48:45
  and not kill them, you know, so they're entrusting those guys
• 48:48
  that have this bike up and running just like our guys are.
• 48:51
  So I mean, there's a lot more just to show up.
• 48:54
  So I mean, there's a lot of fast guys out here.
• 48:59
  But at the end of the day, it's I look at it like just as any
• 49:01
  sport, you know, we could be out here working, they're out there
• 49:04
  just practicing doing what they got to do.
• 49:06
  So you got to put the time and effort and then put the work and
• 49:10
  pave your way and pay a little bit to get that practice in and
• 49:13
  just go forward. Just put all put all your money
• 49:15
  and chips in one basket and say, hey, we're going to try this
• 49:17
  out. You're listening man, all the
• 49:20
  yachties out there that think y'all fast it's a hard time.
• 49:24
  Cool runnings. You want to kiss my egg, man?
• 49:29
  I think it's a great notion, but you know, it's, it's just words
• 49:34
  until they until there's actual actions and until there's
• 49:37
  actually a plan. Because the reason that the
• 49:39
  Spaniards and the Italians dominate is because, you know,
• 49:42
  these kids are indoctrinated into motorcycle racing at a very
• 49:45
  young age. And there's an infrastructure in
• 49:48
  both of those countries that nurture that talent.
• 49:52
  You know, you can race a little pocket bike.
• 49:54
  There's areas for them to race pocket bikes every weekend.
• 49:58
  There's opportunities for them to come up racing and to to kind
• 50:01
  of grow with the sport and to evolve over time.
• 50:05
  And, you know, this is part of the culture of those particular
• 50:09
  countries, I mean, and several other countries in Europe, but
• 50:12
  we don't have that here in the US.
• 50:14
  There's no infrastructure here in the US for that kind of
• 50:16
  support. I mean, we have mini GPS and we
• 50:18
  have all these little go Kart tracks that do like mini motos
• 50:22
  and things like that. But it, you know, it really
• 50:25
  takes a lot of time and money. And then the other thing is, if
• 50:28
  you look at on the inside, Dorna needs to fix some things on the
• 50:32
  inside as well. There's not enough manufacturers
• 50:35
  in Moto GP, There's not enough bikes, there's not enough seats.
• 50:39
  You know, there's limited opportunities even for the
• 50:41
  riders in Moto 2 now from the countries that are all competing
• 50:45
  in Moto 2 now, do I want to see more diversity?
• 50:48
  Yeah, I'd like to see more people of of different colors,
• 50:52
  different races, different backgrounds, different
• 50:54
  countries. You know, I would like to see,
• 50:56
  you know, you know, someone like Top Rack is going to be a Moto
• 51:00
  GP. Like that's great for the Moto
• 51:01
  GP because this introduces Moto GP to an entire segment of the
• 51:05
  world that has nobody to root for.
• 51:08
  You know, you got Morbidelli that was raised in Italy, but he
• 51:11
  has Brazilian roots. Like that's the only person from
• 51:13
  all of South America. You're going to tell me
• 51:15
  throughout all Mexico, South America and Central America,
• 51:18
  there's not another talent. We have talent here in the US
• 51:22
  but, you know, nobody's giving them seats.
• 51:24
  Nobody. Nobody's giving them
• 51:25
  opportunities. So I think if, if the Dorner
• 51:29
  really wants to see this, there needs to be some money and some
• 51:32
  incentive behind it. You know, maybe Dorner puts some
• 51:36
  money where their mouth is. And hey, if you bring in a rider
• 51:41
  from the US or you bring in a rider from one of these other
• 51:45
  countries, we'll give you some sort of financial support.
• 51:49
  We'll give you this and that, you know, we'll something to
• 51:52
  incentivize the teams to look outside of the normal pools
• 51:55
  where they look. Because if you're not going to
• 51:57
  incentivize them, if they still have to pay what they have to
• 51:59
  pay, then they're not going to take risks on people.
• 52:03
  They're going to go where it's the easiest path, the path, the
• 52:06
  least resistance and where there's a big talent pool.
• 52:08
  They're not going to look outside of Italy and Spain and
• 52:11
  France and so forth and so on. So that's that's my only thing
• 52:15
  is if Dorno is really serious about this, there has to be
• 52:19
  money behind it, not just words, because words don't mean
• 52:22
  anything until somebody shows up with a checkbook.
• 52:25
  And and if you're a stunt rider out there, and if.
• 52:27
  You're a stunt rider. Yeah.
• 52:29
  Start looking, man. Stop going to track.
• 52:31
  Man, and I have something to piggyback on with Lee.
• 52:35
  I got something to piggy on back with Lou.
• 52:37
  It's like, you know, he's correct.
• 52:38
  You know, they do need some more manufacturers out here.
• 52:41
  But again, you know, Lou's correct and, and I tell
• 52:45
  everybody, you know, from being on the inside, it actually a lot
• 52:49
  of people don't understand this, but it actually starts with us
• 52:52
  as as consumers, as fans as anyone, It starts with us.
• 52:57
  You want the manufacturers out there, you have to go 1.
• 53:01
  You have to go to the race and you have to stop.
• 53:04
  You have to stop buying bikes from second hand because if you
• 53:09
  don't buy, yeah, bikes are expensive.
• 53:11
  They're a shit ton of money. We all understand that even if
• 53:14
  you just buy the little bikes, just buy a little bike, it
• 53:17
  doesn't matter what kind of bike you buy, you buy it brand new.
• 53:20
  That's where the money comes from for the manufacturers say,
• 53:23
  OK, let's go race. We have money to spend.
• 53:26
  So if you don't, if you're not buying the bike, you sit there
• 53:28
  and talk. You talk, you say I want to buy
• 53:30
  it and you're buying it from a second hand.
• 53:31
  Oh, I bought this. But it's a Yamaha that does
• 53:33
  nothing for the manufacturer. They already got their money
• 53:36
  from the person pay for it the first time.
• 53:39
  So you buying a second hand from a dealer or whatever, use the
• 53:43
  money that you're buying. It is just going to the dealer
• 53:46
  or to that person. So you have to buy new and start
• 53:50
  getting out here and support to get the manufacturers back.
• 53:54
  Just sitting back talking trash and want to see it and want to
• 53:58
  understand it. They're not going to do it.
• 53:59
  A lot of people think that the manufacturers got money.
• 54:02
  They don't. They ain't got the money.
• 54:04
  That's why Cali's sitting back. I I I agree with you, buy more
• 54:07
  new bikes because that way used bikes can be a lot cheaper.
• 54:10
  Used bikes are just way too expensive.
• 54:12
  I'm sorry. It is the market.
• 54:14
  The market has changed and to, to, I found out that Cali wants
• 54:22
  to, to build a new one, but to build a new platform, a new
• 54:25
  power plant, because everything is the lightweight now, the
• 54:28
  lightweight crankshaft, the lightweight Pistons, everything.
• 54:31
  It's going to cost them about $2,000,000 just to build a new
• 54:34
  platform in that part. So that gives you an idea on
• 54:40
  what money they're spending. It's just to build something for
• 54:42
  us to have in these streets. Yeah, yeah, that's the main
• 54:46
  thing. A lot, a lot of a lot of our
• 54:47
  fans, a lot of the people in this industry, a lot of fellow
• 54:51
  riders, they don't, they don't understand that we vote with our
• 54:55
  with our wallets. That's the that's the only vote
• 54:58
  that we have. That's the only real say we have
• 55:00
  is how we use our wallets and when we go out there.
• 55:04
  And you know, I understand if you're a new rider, you're going
• 55:06
  to look for a used bike or something inexpensive, but a new
• 55:10
  bike is maybe a couple of 1000 bucks more.
• 55:13
  But it'll be your bike. You're the first owner.
• 55:16
  You can go through that experience of building it the
• 55:18
  way you want, learn on it and kind of evolve from there.
• 55:22
  Used bikes are great. I mean, I've owned a bunch of
• 55:24
  used bikes, but I've also owned a bunch of new bikes, you know,
• 55:27
  and, and there's got to be a little bit of a mix.
• 55:29
  We can't just keep recycling used bikes between each other
• 55:33
  for eternity. Because if you look at what's
• 55:35
  happened over the past 10 years, there's been less development in
• 55:40
  new bikes because new bike sales are not where they should be.
• 55:44
  The only company that is actively investing in new bike
• 55:48
  technology over and over seems to be Ducati.
• 55:51
  Why? Because they're selling a lot of
• 55:52
  Ducatis. Not right now, but they have
• 55:55
  been. But there's, they've been
• 55:57
  selling a lot of Ducatis. And as they sell Ducatis, they
• 55:59
  can race more, they can develop more bikes.
• 56:01
  They can do this and that. So, you know, it's what comes
• 56:05
  first, the chicken or the egg. Well, without buying new bikes,
• 56:08
  these companies aren't going to invest in our sport because
• 56:12
  we're not investing in our sport.
• 56:14
  So it it it's an important thing.
• 56:16
  And, and you know, another part of that that you know, I'm
• 56:19
  starting to see in the, you know, the meet up, bike meet up
• 56:23
  community. I, I feel that it may be a
• 56:26
  little bit in track community too.
• 56:27
  If you're a new rider and you have a bad experience, you take
• 56:31
  that with you forever and, and, and, and, and you become this
• 56:35
  other creature when somebody is trying to promote the sport, you
• 56:40
  know, you're the, you're the, you're like the, the grumpy old
• 56:42
  men on The Muppets just complaining about everything and
• 56:44
  stuff like that. And and that's, that's, that's
• 56:46
  unfortunate because that that Jay's the community.
• 56:49
  We know, we know all these things happen And but it we have
• 56:52
  to find a way to give new riders a better experience because
• 56:58
  once, once they once they go sideways that they ain't coming
• 57:01
  back and then they go tell everybody that they're, you
• 57:04
  know, that they whatever motorcycles are not for you or
• 57:07
  something like that. Like I had a guy complain at me
• 57:12
  on IG saying that, oh, there's a bunch of manufacturers over in
• 57:16
  world super bike. I'm like, there's none.
• 57:17
  They're all factory supportive. But it's, it's that one person
• 57:22
  that's going to go tell the next person that go tell this for and
• 57:25
  it just spreads like a disease. And it's like, instead of
• 57:28
  sitting there doing your research and look at it or
• 57:30
  listen to a person that's been in the industry.
• 57:33
  I've been in the industry now since 96, it is now.
• 57:37
  So take my advice. It's it's, it's there's a lot
• 57:40
  that goes on that people don't see.
• 57:43
  No doubt. And Speaking of Ducati, they
• 57:46
  just released a new V4. What can?
• 57:50
  I the V4R, the V4, great, great. More money, no.
• 57:54
  What I mean, what's money? Reese, come on, You're you're
• 57:58
  you're in the top level of Motor America.
• 58:01
  Come on, what's money? A lot.
• 58:06
  But you know what I that? Trophy over this weekend is
• 58:08
  going to be more than that. I say about Ducati, listen, it's
• 58:12
  nice to be partners with Lambeau and Volkswagen Group, ain't it?
• 58:16
  It is. It is.
• 58:17
  I. Got I got some Volkswagen stock,
• 58:21
  don't worry, because especially if if they didn't have the back
• 58:27
  end, they would be more closer to MV Augusta or Aprilia if they
• 58:31
  didn't have the if they didn't have the back end.
• 58:32
  And, and, and that's the biggest thing because where their tech
• 58:35
  can compete with with the Japanese.
• 58:39
  That's that's that's that's all you know, St. money.
• 58:44
  That's exactly what it is. I mean, it's good for Ducati
• 58:47
  that they can build a bike that sells for 50K and they can
• 58:51
  actually sell the bike, right? That's all right.
• 58:54
  You know, I mean, Yamaha builds an R1M that's $24,000 and people
• 58:58
  like what? For Yamaha, when somebody comes
• 59:03
  out with a Ducati that's 50 grand, it's like, where do I
• 59:05
  sign on the dotted line? It's like wait a.
• 59:07
  Second, working in a dealership. My, I got my, I got my red
• 59:11
  floor. I'm like dude, you could have
• 59:13
  just got the R. But but from working in the
• 59:16
  dealership, I used to hear people say that a lot.
• 59:19
  Like why would I spend 24 grand on an R1 when I can spend 24
• 59:23
  grand and get a Ducati and be part of the elite family?
• 59:27
  So here's here used to be my retort when I when I was P&M at
• 59:32
  a dealership is just because you can afford to buy something.
• 59:35
  Doesn't mean you can. Afford to own something.
• 59:38
  Right. Or you can't afford the
• 59:40
  maintenance. Exactly.
• 59:42
  A Yamaha might be, you know, a few thousand, a Yamaha R1 M
• 59:45
  might be a few 1000 less than this Ducati.
• 59:48
  But when it comes to maintenance, you know, that's
• 59:52
  when it's going to hit you. And luckily here Ducati has
• 59:55
  evolved the technology. Before they went to the chain
• 59:58
  driven and they were just belt driven and you had to do a
• 1:00:01
  decimal service like every so many 1000 miles.
• 1:00:05
  And. It was painful.
• 1:00:07
  If I read if I read right it's 24K no matter how long you have
• 1:00:12
  the bike warranty. Right, 24.
• 1:00:15
  So Ducati, you got to service it year, annually or by miles no
• 1:00:20
  matter what. And you got to do the decimal at
• 1:00:22
  that point at that certain mall. And that decimal service is
• 1:00:26
  expensive. So I mean, you know, and a lot
• 1:00:29
  of people going to put 24K on their Ducati, so you know, a lot
• 1:00:33
  of service is going to be free. But let's move on to Motegi
• 1:00:35
  before we get out of here. Japan.
• 1:00:39
  Yes, I can't wait to go. It's one of my to bucket lists
• 1:00:44
  places to go watch Moto GP and and just appreciate the the
• 1:00:47
  country as well. What are your thoughts?
• 1:00:50
  I mean, history could be made as far as Mark Marquez winning the
• 1:00:53
  championship in Motegi. It sounds like it.
• 1:00:56
  He's probably already consoling his brother, saying look, Alex,
• 1:00:59
  I waited long enough, man, come on, man.
• 1:01:01
  I, I look, man, look, man, look, look, I got to do it, you know.
• 1:01:05
  What are your thoughts? Is it, is it going to be done or
• 1:01:08
  are we going to see some riders push him to the next round?
• 1:01:12
  No, it's done. It's done.
• 1:01:15
  I mean, at at this point of the the season, I mean, Mark's
• 1:01:19
  pretty much stayed up the whole year.
• 1:01:22
  You know, he hasn't gone down. I used to go down on the Honda.
• 1:01:27
  I think his brother has to. I mean, it's like a three-point
• 1:01:30
  difference or something that has to be all scored or something
• 1:01:32
  like that. But we're going to see another
• 1:01:35
  champion this weekend. So we're going to see a champion
• 1:01:37
  Moto America, we're going to see a champion Moto GP.
• 1:01:40
  That's going to be a good weekend.
• 1:01:43
  But I'm hoping KTM can redeem themselves also for having a
• 1:01:48
  terrible weekend. But it looks like from last year
• 1:01:50
  they had one of the fastest times, so we'll see how how how
• 1:01:57
  it plays out. But we're going to have a
• 1:01:58
  champion as much. We got 3 champions, the crown
• 1:02:01
  this weekend, Super Sport, Super Bike and Moto GP.
• 1:02:04
  That's it. All right, all right.
• 1:02:07
  So that's it, huh? And and only one of the three is
• 1:02:10
  is not pretty much guaranteed because.
• 1:02:13
  The other two are pretty much. Guaranteed.
• 1:02:15
  Pretty much serious. You want to elaborate for people
• 1:02:19
  who are listening that may question with this?
• 1:02:26
  I. I don't see.
• 1:02:28
  I don't see Matthew, I don't see Matthew Schultz not winning the
• 1:02:31
  championship at Jersey and and I don't see Mark Marquez not
• 1:02:35
  winning the championship at Mutegi when he only leads three
• 1:02:38
  points. Got you.
• 1:02:39
  So the only one that's up for real debate or with nail biting
• 1:02:43
  is the Super bike championship in Motor America because it's
• 1:02:46
  it's razor razor thin, man. But looking at the weather for
• 1:02:50
  Mutegi this weekend, it looks in the low 80s, partly cloudy and
• 1:02:56
  maybe some AM showers on Sunday, but other than that looks clean
• 1:03:01
  marks. One there in the dry marks, one
• 1:03:02
  there in the wet marks. Won several championships there,
• 1:03:05
  so not much more to say man. Yeah, I I don't go ahead.
• 1:03:13
  I don't see, I don't see any way that he gets out of this weekend
• 1:03:17
  without three more points than his brother.
• 1:03:19
  Like that's, that's, that's insane.
• 1:03:21
  Three points, man. I mean.
• 1:03:24
  I sneeze and get 3 points. I can get sneeze in three or
• 1:03:27
  three points. He's won three times, never got
• 1:03:30
  pole position, you know, so and. Clinched 2 championships.
• 1:03:35
  There he did. I mean, you know, it was.
• 1:03:37
  Listen, it was. We won't talk about the one
• 1:03:39
  with. What that that should have told
• 1:03:41
  you right there. When you say he's never hit pole
• 1:03:44
  and still won, what else you need to say?
• 1:03:49
  Fair enough, fair enough. That's in the cover that.
• 1:03:56
  Ducati's been generally strong there, so it's possible that
• 1:03:59
  some of the writers may show up. It's, you know, I mean.
• 1:04:05
  No. No, no, I will say this because,
• 1:04:08
  you know, I'm I'm the youngest that to my knowledge, Pops
• 1:04:11
  hasn't told me otherwise. So you know.
• 1:04:15
  I'm, I'm waiting for Alex to like, listen, all right, man,
• 1:04:18
  come on, man. Like the young, the youngest got
• 1:04:20
  it, like Michael Jackson. I mean, there's, there's so many
• 1:04:22
  youngest. I I like, you know, he, you know
• 1:04:25
  what I'm saying? He, he might, he might be able
• 1:04:28
  to, you know, take out his brother and and, and finish the
• 1:04:31
  race. Nah.
• 1:04:36
  I got a better chance of hitting a lot.
• 1:04:37
  Of give them the the the Rossi in the corners just kick them
• 1:04:40
  off let them look at them before they keep going.
• 1:04:44
  I'm sorry bro, just. Just just crash into them at
• 1:04:47
  the, you know, take. Off nobody got to get points.
• 1:04:53
  I got I got a better chance of hitting the lottery.
• 1:04:59
  But I mean, you know, I, I got to assume you got to be tough
• 1:05:01
  for Alex, you know, because, you know, outside of his brother,
• 1:05:07
  you know what I'm saying? And, and I guess maybe this
• 1:05:09
  might have been the first time that he's had to compete with
• 1:05:11
  his brother as well, because Mark was kind of always ahead of
• 1:05:14
  him. So he was always just kind of
• 1:05:15
  chasing Mark. So it's the first time that
• 1:05:18
  they're in the same class on, on, you know, at the at, you
• 1:05:21
  know, 1 and 2. So psychologically that that,
• 1:05:24
  you know, even though he shows like he's cool as a cucumber,
• 1:05:28
  you know, it has to be difficult.
• 1:05:29
  And even you see with Mark and saying, you know, like the, you
• 1:05:32
  know, even when not Mazano, the round before Mazano is like, if
• 1:05:35
  I won in this round, you know, that means Alex didn't do well
• 1:05:39
  and, and stuff like that. So I mean, I, you know, we've
• 1:05:41
  heard it from Serena and Venus when they had to compete against
• 1:05:44
  each other and stuff like that for championships and and
• 1:05:47
  whatnot. I mean, you know, as parents, I
• 1:05:49
  can't imagine like, like, like what, you know, dad can't be
• 1:05:52
  winking at Mark, you know, while hugging Alex, like, no, you
• 1:05:57
  know, this got to be it's a tough thing And and you know,
• 1:05:59
  and cool as well for Moto GP. I say yeah, listen, you want to
• 1:06:08
  go D? Yeah, yeah, you got it.
• 1:06:11
  I mean it's got to be tough for him but I mean at the same time,
• 1:06:15
  you know, Mark, I mean not Mark. Alex hasn't really done that
• 1:06:17
  great over his GP career. So it's like you can kind of
• 1:06:22
  take the good and the bad. I mean, he's like, yeah, it's
• 1:06:24
  tough. I got to be behind my brother.
• 1:06:26
  But at the same time it shows what what I can do and what I,
• 1:06:29
  you know, what kind of riding capability I have, you know,
• 1:06:33
  that I've been yearning for to show people that I can do.
• 1:06:36
  You know, I'm up here battling with the, you know, the eight
• 1:06:41
  time champion, my brother, I'm battling with him.
• 1:06:43
  I'm one and two with him. So it shows the competitive
• 1:06:46
  nature of him and it shows his it shows his talent finally.
• 1:06:49
  So you got to take it as a stepping stone for him, like,
• 1:06:52
  you know, so you got to take it saying, yeah, you're bounding
• 1:06:55
  your brother. It sucks, but it also shows some
• 1:06:58
  greatness. That is that is with you.
• 1:07:01
  So. Right.
• 1:07:02
  I hear what you're saying and I, I want to say this, I don't know
• 1:07:06
  how much you guys follow tennis, but there was a match at
• 1:07:10
  Wimbledon with Federer and Andy Roddick.
• 1:07:14
  It went for like 5 hours with five sets.
• 1:07:19
  You know, they split sets, they had to go to tie in the fifth
• 1:07:22
  round tiebreaker and Roddick won.
• 1:07:24
  I mean, Federer won and Roddick was like, what else can I do?
• 1:07:29
  I mean, if this is Alex Marquez best year and he doesn't win,
• 1:07:34
  like, I mean, Roddick retired, you know, and and threw away
• 1:07:38
  pretty much all his trophies, you know.
• 1:07:41
  So like, you know, I'll ask Lewis, you're the numbers guy,
• 1:07:44
  you know what I'm saying? I mean, you know, could this be
• 1:07:47
  detrimental for Alex? No, I don't think it is because
• 1:07:52
  again, he just finished second in the world championship to
• 1:07:55
  possibly one of the greatest riders to ever throw his leg
• 1:07:57
  over a motorcycle, whether it's his brother or not.
• 1:08:00
  If you take the brother equation out and he was just Alex Lopez
• 1:08:06
  racing against Mark Marquez, he's still racing one of the
• 1:08:09
  greatest riders to ever throw their leg over a motorcycle and
• 1:08:13
  he came in second place on a satellite bike, you know, So I
• 1:08:17
  don't think there's anything like he.
• 1:08:18
  There's no reason for him to leave this season with anything
• 1:08:22
  but his head held high. He did better than anyone ever
• 1:08:25
  expected him to do. He did better than the two time
• 1:08:29
  world champion. One time world champion.
• 1:08:31
  Or 1 1/2. No Pekkos won two.
• 1:08:41
  No, I meant Martin. Yeah, yeah, Quatararo.
• 1:08:46
  Those don't count. But I'm saying like he, you
• 1:08:50
  know, he came in second place in a championship that's loaded
• 1:08:54
  with a lot of talent and he came in second place behind what one
• 1:08:58
  of the greatest riders ever, you know, So he has nothing to be
• 1:09:02
  worried about, nothing to complain about.
• 1:09:03
  I mean, there's a there's an interview online for those of
• 1:09:07
  you that are not Spanish, try to find it and see if you can get
• 1:09:11
  it translated. But he goes into a lot of
• 1:09:13
  details about the sacrifices he made as a kid because he wasn't
• 1:09:17
  as talented as his brother. And he says, you know very
• 1:09:21
  plainly in his interview that he was never the talent most
• 1:09:23
  talented rider. He's still not the most talented
• 1:09:25
  rider. He knows riders with more
• 1:09:28
  talent, they just don't outwork him when other kids were out at
• 1:09:33
  parties. Luca Marina Marini see eye to
• 1:09:35
  eye. Yeah, yeah, Him and Luca Marini
• 1:09:37
  see eye to eye, except, you know, Luca's a little further
• 1:09:39
  back right now because of the bike he's on.
• 1:09:42
  But they're both living in the shadow of greatness.
• 1:09:45
  You know, they're the four story building next to the Empire
• 1:09:47
  State Building. It's a nice building, but that's
• 1:09:50
  the Empire State Building, my man.
• 1:09:53
  You know, it casts a big ass shadow and it covers your entire
• 1:09:57
  little building. Even though it's a nice
• 1:09:58
  building, brand new, nice, nice sauna, good gym, still Empire
• 1:10:03
  State Building, you know, and that's what, that's the way you
• 1:10:05
  have to look at it. Damn, I'm I'm, I'm glad I'm like
• 1:10:11
  Michael Jackson. That's, you know, 1.
• 1:10:13
  Thing that Mark's dad was always in well, Marquez's dad was
• 1:10:20
  always in Mark's panic. I I've never really seen him in
• 1:10:24
  the in Alice's panic, maybe time to time, but when the camera was
• 1:10:28
  on him, it seemed like he was always in Mark's panic.
• 1:10:31
  So I still think that's his favorite until he's out of the
• 1:10:34
  game. I mean, you know, Mark, Mark's
• 1:10:39
  probably been buying them more stuff longer than Alex has
• 1:10:41
  because Alex only really started coming into money in the last
• 1:10:44
  like few years. Like real money.
• 1:10:46
  TJ he's trying to say parents got favorite kids, of course.
• 1:10:50
  Man, kids paying all the. Bills.
• 1:10:51
  That kid, that kids. They like that kid.
• 1:10:54
  He's just the youngest boy. He's just the youngest, not the
• 1:10:57
  oldest, but you know what I'm saying?
• 1:11:02
  But like you said, like he was saying, Mark's paying the bills,
• 1:11:05
  so. Yeah, you got to.
• 1:11:06
  You got to, you know, hey, man, that the guy that's paying the
• 1:11:09
  bills, you got to give him a little extra love, a little few
• 1:11:11
  more hugs, you know, than the kid that's costing you money.
• 1:11:16
  But again, man, at the end of this year, I'm one.
• 1:11:19
  I'm glad that he's going to be with Garcini again next year.
• 1:11:22
  I'm glad he's going to have the same structure behind him, the
• 1:11:24
  same people behind him. He's going to be on factory
• 1:11:27
  equipment next year, so that might give him that extra couple
• 1:11:31
  of 10s because you never know man.
• 1:11:32
  Again, this kid for the talent that he doesn't have.
• 1:11:36
  People forget man, he is Moto 2 world champion.
• 1:11:39
  Like he didn't just come into Moto GP with the last name and
• 1:11:42
  Moto 3. He didn't just come into Moto GP
• 1:11:44
  with with no credentials. Like the dudes put in his work.
• 1:11:47
  The dudes worked hard and I hope to see him in the same position
• 1:11:51
  next year, you know, and I hope to see him in that position for
• 1:11:55
  years to come. You know, I think he's an
• 1:11:56
  incredible talent. If you take Mark out of the
• 1:11:58
  equation that the minute that Mark Marquez retires, Alex
• 1:12:02
  Marquez can pick up a a torch and run with it for another who
• 1:12:07
  knows how many years and keep the Marquez name in that GB
• 1:12:11
  paddock and keep pissing off those Italians for a long time
• 1:12:14
  man. Listen, man, Alex need a lot of
• 1:12:17
  a lot of a lot of credit because he could have Nancy Kerrigan, a
• 1:12:21
  few people, all right? So it's going to be cool to see.
• 1:12:30
  I'm looking forward to it. I know you guys are going to be
• 1:12:33
  at Jersey. I'm jealous because I'm not
• 1:12:35
  there. Definitely take some photos,
• 1:12:38
  Reese. Good luck, man.
• 1:12:39
  I'm rooting for you guys because I know you.
• 1:12:42
  I mean, that's what it is. I got I got Yamahas in Ducatis,
• 1:12:47
  but you know what I'm saying? We appreciate.
• 1:12:50
  It. So, so definitely go Yamaha and.
• 1:12:56
  We appreciate it. We appreciate it over here.
• 1:12:59
  I can't wait to watch. I'm not going to be sweating
• 1:13:02
  like you, got you, like you. So make sure you, you know, at
• 1:13:06
  least steal something from Louis Best.
• 1:13:07
  He's not going to drop off a T-shirt or anything.
• 1:13:09
  Right. Ain't dropping.
• 1:13:11
  I'm stealing. All his gear.
• 1:13:12
  His gear I'm stealing. And find out where y'all are
• 1:13:17
  located, yeah? No, no doubt man.
• 1:13:19
  Have fun man. Jersey's.
• 1:13:20
  Going to be nice. It's the Be Forever Cool
• 1:13:22
  podcast. My name is Rex 45, you got TJ
• 1:13:26
  from 2 Wheels and coffee, Reese from Attack, Yamaha, the real
• 1:13:29
  Louis Ortega, the numbers guy and more.
• 1:13:32
  It's a crazy show. Peace.
• 1:13:34
  Peace, Peace.