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The Truth Behind The U.S. Government_s Nuclear Cover Up -part 2 · The conspiracy

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Speaker 1: The United States has experimented on human beings for decades.
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Speaker 1: In a recent video, I exposed a pattern of decades
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Speaker 1: of human radiation experiments. Pregnant women being fed radioactive materials,
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Speaker 1: human bodies being stolen either dug up, exhumed from the ground,
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Speaker 1: stolen from cemeteries by the government, human organs that were
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Speaker 1: being acquired by government officials for experimentation and testing, all
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Speaker 1: against the wishes of the family members of the deceased
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Speaker 1: or the victims. Children that were experimented on by NASA
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Speaker 1: as a part of their studies to see if astronauts
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Speaker 1: could survive radiation levels. I mean, it's a disturbing pattern
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Speaker 1: of human experimentation that occurred for decades. But part of
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Speaker 1: that video that I created was about the government's reluctance
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Speaker 1: not only to compensate the victims to pay them for
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Speaker 1: the damage that the government had unwillingly subjected these people to,
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Speaker 1: but the government's reluctance to even acknowledge that these things
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Speaker 1: happened in the first place. One of the most infamous
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Speaker 1: nuclear incidents, if not the most famous nuclear incident that
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Speaker 1: ever occurred in United States history, happened at Three Mile
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Speaker 1: Island in Pennsylvania. So at four am on March twenty eighth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine, the Unit two reactor at the Three
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Speaker 1: Mile Island Nuclear Generating Station in Pennsylvania suffered a partial
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Speaker 1: nuclear meltdown. People have theorized that if this wasn't handled properly,
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Speaker 1: it could have led to a Chernobyl style incident. If
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Speaker 1: this hadn't been controlled as it was, this could have
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Speaker 1: led to massive death and destruction here in America. But
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Speaker 1: according to the government, they were able to contain this
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Speaker 1: thing and there were never any adverse health effects. But
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Speaker 1: a few years ago, when I was in Pennsylvania, I
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Speaker 1: spoke with a professor at a local university who informed
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Speaker 1: me that a lot of residents in the area actually
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Speaker 1: had developed specific types of cancer relevant to nuclear radiological leakage.
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Speaker 1: She claims that the United States government has been covering
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Speaker 1: up the long term ramifications of exactly what happened at
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Speaker 1: the old, abandoned Three Mile Island nuclear facility. Today's episode
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Speaker 1: is incredibly explosive and features an actual interview with a
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Speaker 1: nuclear whistleblower that I conducted while on the ground in Pennsylvania.
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Speaker 1: This is going to be a dark, a very disturbing episode,
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Speaker 1: and it contains information that the US government refuses to
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Speaker 1: acknowledge to be true. As always with all of these things,
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Speaker 1: all parties are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a
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Speaker 1: court of law. I don't have resources for this episode
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Speaker 1: because the resource is a primary source, the woman that
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Speaker 1: I'm actually interviewing in the video, So all the information
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Speaker 1: is coming from her. She has lived through all of
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Speaker 1: these experiences. She is a professor at a local university,
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Speaker 1: and she's sharing her story and the stories of others
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Speaker 1: who she's spoken to over the years. And yeah, I
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Speaker 1: don't plan on going anywhere or doing anything to myself
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Speaker 1: in the near future, but let's just get into this.
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Speaker 1: In Ysaye whistleblower interview, my name is Colin Brown. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for tuning in. Welcome to the Conspiracy Files.
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Speaker 2: On March twenty eighth, nineteen seventy nine, at the Three
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Speaker 2: Mile Island Nuclear Power Plant near Middletown, Pennsylvania, a cooling
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Speaker 2: malfunction caused part of the core to melt in the
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Speaker 2: number two reactor. The TMI two reactor was destroyed, thus
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Speaker 2: sending the plant into a lockdown and causing a massive
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Speaker 2: panic in nearby towns. This was the most serious accident
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Speaker 2: in US commercial nuclear power plant operating history, and which
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Speaker 2: forever changed the future of nuclear power in the United States.
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Speaker 2: Then US President Jimmy Carter visited the plant in the
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Speaker 2: days after the accident. In the move there was meant
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Speaker 2: to assure the public that the radiation levels being emitted
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Speaker 2: from the plant were barely above normally. However, in the
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Speaker 2: years since the Three Mile Island incident, many have raised
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Speaker 2: questions about just how much radiation was released into the
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Speaker 2: environment that day, Although the official government story is that
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Speaker 2: no massive amount of radiation were released and that there
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Speaker 2: were never any adverse health effects on people who lived
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Speaker 2: in the area and continue to live there, there's a
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Speaker 2: group of people who were raised in the area who
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Speaker 2: have noticed higher cancer rates in the regent that are
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Speaker 2: directly related to radiation exposure. While I was in Pennsylvania,
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Speaker 2: I decided to stop by and speak to someone to
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Speaker 2: the contract at Thyroid Cancer herself who believes that the
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Speaker 2: incident at Freemane Line that had something to do with it.
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Speaker 3: So my name was Christine Achenbach Kimmel. I was a
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Speaker 3: freshman at Cedarcliffe High School in Camphill, Pennsylvania. On the
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Speaker 3: end of March of nineteen seventy nine when three Mile
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Speaker 3: Island had its incident. We're currently at Elizabethtown College and
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Speaker 3: behind me our beautiful mineral gallery, and this is where
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Speaker 3: I work. I'm an occupational therapist and my job right now,
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Speaker 3: for the last eighteen and a half years, has been
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Speaker 3: placing our occupational therapy interns in in their internships. So
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Speaker 3: I've been at Healthcare Provider for thirty two years of
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Speaker 3: a master's degree from Penn State at Campus in health education.
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Speaker 3: So my life has been all about helping people to
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Speaker 3: be the healthiest that they can be, and for that reason,
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Speaker 3: I think I'm motivated also to share this story. Well,
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Speaker 3: I know that TMI almost melted down. Whatever happened on
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Speaker 3: a Friday, I was only I was nineteen seventy nine
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Speaker 3: and I was born in sixty four, so I was
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Speaker 3: a freshman in high school. I don't have a really
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Speaker 3: great memory, but you know, whenever there's a historical kind
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Speaker 3: of experience like that, it's kind of like you know
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Speaker 3: exactly where you were when nine to eleven happened. So
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Speaker 3: I know I was in high school at the time.
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Speaker 3: I was dating a guy who had just graduated high
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Speaker 3: school from our neighboring high school in the same district,
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Speaker 3: and he was threatening to come to school, come to Cedarcliff,
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Speaker 3: pick me up and just start driving and just to
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Speaker 3: get me out of town because he was scared about
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Speaker 3: what was happening. He was a graduate Redland High School,
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Speaker 3: which is probably the high school that is closest to
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Speaker 3: TMI as the crow flies. It's right across the river
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Speaker 3: from TMI in lewis Berry, Pennsylvania. So he was really
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Speaker 3: nervous about what was going on, and being out of school,
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Speaker 3: he was listening to the news and you know what
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Speaker 3: was all happening. Just to give you a little context,
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Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy nine, we didn't have the internet, we
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Speaker 3: didn't have computers, we didn't have cell phones. So mass
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Speaker 3: communication happened by TV radio and you would have to
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Speaker 3: pick up a landline because everybody had one in their
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Speaker 3: house or at least one, if not two, and you communicated.
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Speaker 3: That's how you communicated. So trying to get information out
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Speaker 3: to the masses already is a challenge. So I'm in
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Speaker 3: school and we hear the sirens go off, and we're
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Speaker 3: wondering what the heck is going on. So of course
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Speaker 3: the teachers and the school officials, they're telling us what
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Speaker 3: they know and what they're allowed to tell us. We
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Speaker 3: were all wondering, well, you know, if you knew something
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Speaker 3: about nuclear energy, like our physics teacher, our chemistry teacher,
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Speaker 3: they kind of had a little bit more of a clue,
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Speaker 3: but the rest of us peons, we didn't really understand
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Speaker 3: what this nuclear energy thing was. Just to give a
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Speaker 3: little context too, I lived in Lemoyne, which is probably
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Speaker 3: about fourteen miles from TMI, and they really only considered
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Speaker 3: within a ten mile radius of the reactors to be
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Speaker 3: ground zero, so we were safer than people in ground zero.
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Speaker 3: So people were wondering, well should I. I mean, there
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Speaker 3: were all kinds of people that were leaving town. They
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Speaker 3: were packing things up, shutting up their house, driving in
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Speaker 3: any direction just to get away. And recently, when WITF
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Speaker 3: TV and radio put on a forty year anniversary celebration
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Speaker 3: if you will, or remembrance, I'm not sure what they
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Speaker 3: called it. They had some events where you could get
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Speaker 3: together with other people that had memory, so their memories
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Speaker 3: kind of filled in some of the blanks for me,
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Speaker 3: and I learned a little bit more. I think as
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Speaker 3: to what we have learned as a culture and a
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Speaker 3: community and just the general area and what science and
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Speaker 3: what Exelon wants us to know, and you know, all
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Speaker 3: the people that were involved at the time, we've kind
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Speaker 3: of learned a little since nineteen seventy nine. So my
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Speaker 3: dad was a mechanic and a car salesman. He owned
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Speaker 3: a place in Stilton, Pennsylvania, which is very close to Middletown,
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Speaker 3: which is the address for TMI if you go up
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Speaker 3: two thirty. He had a place there where he sold
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Speaker 3: and repaired cars. And because he was such a great mechanic,
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Speaker 3: he had people from out of the area who would
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Speaker 3: bring him their Olds and Biel's, Mercedes Benz, you know,
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Speaker 3: more expensive cars. They trusted him. He was a good mechanic. Well,
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Speaker 3: when TMI happened, they actually refused to come pick up
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Speaker 3: their cars. And at that time, in the late seventies
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Speaker 3: into the early eighties, car businesses were failing. At about
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Speaker 3: half half of the car businesses that went into business
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Speaker 3: were failing. So we had that issue and we had
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Speaker 3: the service manager was coming in on site when we
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Speaker 3: would go to church. He would come in on Sundays
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Speaker 3: and steal parts from the parts department to the tune
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Speaker 3: of about ten thousand dollars, so between customers not picking
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Speaker 3: up their cars, coming back in town to pick up
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Speaker 3: their cars, and they were calling my dad saying, Charlie,
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Speaker 3: you need to keep the car in your shop. I
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Speaker 3: don't want to expose any more radiation than it already
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Speaker 3: is being inside this brick building. So my Dad's like,
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to run a business here. How can I
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Speaker 3: bring other cars in and have them repaired if yours
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Speaker 3: is here in storage and you're not paying me. So
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Speaker 3: it was a really rough time. So I never actually
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Speaker 3: put it together until in March when I was reviewing
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Speaker 3: all this again and my dad actually closed the doors
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Speaker 3: and lost the business in nineteen eighty and we declared
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Speaker 3: bankruptcy as they declared bankruptcy as a couple, my dad
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Speaker 3: and mom, probably as a combination of the TMI incident
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Speaker 3: and the kind of the fallout if you will, to
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Speaker 3: really bad, but a double meeting there from all of that. So,
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Speaker 3: being you know, fourteen whatever I was at the time,
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Speaker 3: I never really put the pieces together to realize that
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Speaker 3: these things were all connected. So it really did impact
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Speaker 3: by social history. But getting back to the actual day,
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Speaker 3: I just remember that they closed school, we went home.
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Speaker 3: We were told to do whatever we needed to do,
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Speaker 3: whatever our families felt was the right thing to do
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Speaker 3: for us, whether that was leaving town. I don't remember
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Speaker 3: how many days school was closed, but I do remember
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Speaker 3: that Jimmy Carter came to town and toured TMI shortly
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Speaker 3: after all of this happened. So from what we've pieced
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Speaker 3: together since then, they were worried about the hydrogen bubble
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Speaker 3: that was accumulating in reactor to or cooling Tower two
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Speaker 3: I believe it was, and they were worried about all
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Speaker 3: of the overheating that was happening. And what they shared
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Speaker 3: at the WTF events in March this year was that
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Speaker 3: there was a release valve that was not opened when
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Speaker 3: it should have been. It would have leased the extra
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Speaker 3: hot water that was accumulating in the cooling tower, and
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Speaker 3: because of that, there was something that the reading wasn't correct,
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Speaker 3: So the technicians didn't know to fix this problem, and
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Speaker 3: that they're claiming is what caused all of the problem.
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Speaker 3: So I've been looking at some of the research since
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Speaker 3: then and have some information that I think is interesting.
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Speaker 3: So if there was radiation released that day. There's conflicting
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Speaker 3: stories about that. Apparently there was a helicopter that flew
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Speaker 3: over the tower that day, and because it was directly
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Speaker 3: over the tower, the reading that it got got miscommunicated
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Speaker 3: to the masses that that was actually the reading outside
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Speaker 3: that general vicinity. So everybody assumed that that reading was
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Speaker 3: an indication that there was a lot of radiation released.
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Speaker 3: But I don't know that anyone has really ever come
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Speaker 3: forward and said, this is how much radiation there was.
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Speaker 3: I've looked at research that has measured residual radiation. Of course,
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Speaker 3: the radiation, you know, has half lives. So if let's
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Speaker 3: say a certain let's say plutonium has a half I'm
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Speaker 3: not a chemist or an engineer, so I don't know
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Speaker 3: these things. But let's say if something has a half
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Speaker 3: life of ten years, that means in five years it
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Speaker 3: still has half the radiation it had when it was
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Speaker 3: first kind of created, and then half again it's still
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Speaker 3: going to have half that much. So it never actually
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Speaker 3: fully is not radioactive, because you can cut things in
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Speaker 3: half all the time and you're still going to have
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Speaker 3: a number. So how much radiation it was retained by
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Speaker 3: things like the rocks in the Susquehanna River, so there
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Speaker 3: are studies out there that measure residual radiation in that situation.
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Speaker 3: I've also looked at what's happened in Chernobyl, in the
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Speaker 3: area surrounding Chernobyl since that accident, and also in Japan
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Speaker 3: since that reaction, and what you see in all three
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Speaker 3: cases in TMI and also in Japan is a rise
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Speaker 3: in the thyroid cancer rate. Because we know thyroid cancer
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Speaker 3: is caused by radiation over exposure. So there's been a
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Speaker 3: lot of things that have happened since then that I
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Speaker 3: think are attributable, but there's really no one smoking gun
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Speaker 3: that says, yes, this is truly cause and effect. And
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Speaker 3: as someone who's been working in social science for the
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Speaker 3: last almost nineteen years and doing research, I can tell
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Speaker 3: you really never can fully say A causes B. You
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Speaker 3: can never really identify that there's a causal relationship. You
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Speaker 3: can say there's a correlation, but to fully say there's
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Speaker 3: causal relationship you have to be really really conservative about that.
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Speaker 3: If you're within ten miles of TMI, now, you every
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Speaker 3: year you get in the mail a printed color brochure
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Speaker 3: about what to do in case there is an emergency
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Speaker 3: at TMI. So I always look at it and laugh
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Speaker 3: and say, yeah, buddy, you're about forty years too late.
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Speaker 3: You know, we could have used this information so to
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Speaker 3: bring it to today than what I think is some
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Speaker 3: poetic irony. So my birthdays in September, and in September
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Speaker 3: of this year, TMI would be officially shut down, and
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Speaker 3: I see that as kind of a victory, if you will.
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Speaker 3: What's also interesting in the after effects from TMI is
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Speaker 3: that there have been no new nuclear reactors open in
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Speaker 3: the country since TMI, So I think that's another historical
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Speaker 3: marker that is worth noting about this whole incident.
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Speaker 2: So the whole entire complex is going to be shut down, right.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm seeing that to completely dismantle everything will
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Speaker 3: take fully sixty years.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a.
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Speaker 3: Nuclear energy is one of the least researched kinds of
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Speaker 3: forms of energy. So I remember at the one WTF event,
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Speaker 3: I think he was a physicist and people were asking him, well,
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Speaker 3: why do we have to go for nuclear energy, Why
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Speaker 3: can't we develop renewable like wind and solar And he said,
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Speaker 3: no matter what you pick, energy and matter cannot be
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Speaker 3: created or destroyed. They just change states so you're going
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Speaker 3: to take solar energy and turn it into electricity. To
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Speaker 3: do all of those things will take some sort of
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Speaker 3: material that is toxic to our environment. So I had
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Speaker 3: never really thought about that before. So solar panels apparently
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Speaker 3: use a heavy metal to collect solar energy. So what
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Speaker 3: do you do with a solar panel when it's no
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Speaker 3: longer able to collect solar energy efficiently? Does that go
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Speaker 3: on a landfill? Do we reclaim it, repurpose it? What
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Speaker 3: do we do with that? But I still think that
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Speaker 3: nuclear energy is probably the least smart, in my opinion,
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Speaker 3: source that we could do. You know, why not do
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Speaker 3: turbines on a dam and use the motion of the
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Speaker 3: waterfall or the dam to create some steam heat and
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Speaker 3: for electricity. I just think that we're not putting our
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Speaker 3: research dollars in our y dollars where they really need
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Speaker 3: to be.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Question number three, This one's a pretty short one.
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Speaker 2: Do you trust the government's story of what they said,
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Speaker 2: you know, happened and how much radiation was released the
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Speaker 2: numbers that they've alluded at.
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Speaker 3: So what you're asking is, is the government ever fully
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Speaker 3: truthful with us? My categorical answer to that, regardless of
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Speaker 3: the country you're talking about is no. I don't really
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Speaker 3: think that anyone fully if they've got something to convince
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Speaker 3: someone of that they're ever fully going to tell the
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Speaker 3: truth objectively. I think they're going to spin it. They
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Speaker 3: the way they want people to hear it, the way
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Speaker 3: they want people to believe it. I think one of
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Speaker 3: the purposes of the government is to reduce the fear
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Speaker 3: response to any event, regardless of what it is. You know,
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Speaker 3: you've got to I mean, there's what three hundred and
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Speaker 3: fifty or million or more people in this country. If
16:54
Speaker 3: we all got up in arms about anything all at once,
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Speaker 3: and we actually did whateople in France do, where they
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Speaker 3: protest and they gather and they say, look, we want
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Speaker 3: this to stop, we'd have some major things going on,
17:08
Speaker 3: especially if public health is at risk. I would hope
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Speaker 3: we would have a big response. And that's what I
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Speaker 3: think the government needs to manage. And one way that
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Speaker 3: they manage that is through mitigating and spinning. And we
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Speaker 3: see that coming out of the White House all the time.
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Speaker 3: Let's put it the way I want you to believe it,
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Speaker 3: so we never quite can get at the truth.
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Speaker 2: So what do you think is the truth behind the
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Speaker 2: incident in any way that you'd like to present it.
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Speaker 2: What do you think happened? What has been happening?
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Speaker 3: The core of the argument is, so my personal belief
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Speaker 3: is I'm a conservative Christian, and one of the tenets
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Speaker 3: of our faith is that we have to be good
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Speaker 3: stewards of what we have. God gave us this earth,
17:50
Speaker 3: He created the garden of Eden. He gave us all
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Speaker 3: the animals and the foods, and the trees and everything
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Speaker 3: for our needs and for our enjoyment. But he also
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Speaker 3: put us in charge of taking care of it, and
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Speaker 3: the job we've been doing at that we should all
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Speaker 3: be ashamed of ourselves. Just global warming enough. Whether you
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Speaker 3: believe that or not, that certainly the evidence is there
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Speaker 3: that that's happening and we are ruining our earth. Why
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Speaker 3: we even have plastic bags anymore in grocery stores is
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Speaker 3: a mystery to me, because we know that when you
18:20
Speaker 3: create a piece of plastic, it's there for how many
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Speaker 3: hundreds of years? That is not good stewardship. So in
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Speaker 3: the context of that of being a good steward, I
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Speaker 3: think that nuclear energy makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Spent
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Speaker 3: fuel rods, we know that that radioactivity continues to be emitted.
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Speaker 3: Where do you put that, Whether you take it out
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Speaker 3: in the middle of the Nevada desert and you bury
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Speaker 3: it deep in the ground, you know for every action
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Speaker 3: there's an equal and opposite reaction. Something is going to
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Speaker 3: happen that will be a result of that. I really
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Speaker 3: think that what WITF was sharing in March, I have
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Speaker 3: no reason to believe that they have any hidden agenda.
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Speaker 3: I tend to believe that public television public radio probably
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Speaker 3: has one of the more pure, I don't want to
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Speaker 3: say completely objective, but one of the more trustworthy approaches
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Speaker 3: to newscasting and news reporting than maybe Fox News or
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Speaker 3: some of the other agencies that are out there. Not
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Speaker 3: that I fully trust anyone, because all of us have
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Speaker 3: our opinions, and human memory is not infallible. So I
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Speaker 3: think I believe that it was that technical malfunction of
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Speaker 3: the heat vent or heat release valve that caused the
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Speaker 3: buildup of energy that almost caused the hydrogen bubble, or
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Speaker 3: almost caused a nuclear meltdown. I am thankful that they
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Speaker 3: caught it and remediated it in time, that whatever damage
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Speaker 3: happened was all that happened, because it could have been horrific.
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Speaker 3: It could have been Hiroshima or Nagasaki right here in Middletown, Pennsylvania.
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Speaker 3: And then that means that the current generations would know
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Speaker 3: that TMI stands for softhing besides too much information. If
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Speaker 3: you've ever flown into HIA Harrisburg International Airport, you fly
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Speaker 3: basically over the cooling towers and it's really eerie. There's
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Speaker 3: four of them there. Two of them are still producing steam.
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Speaker 3: They will still continue to produce electricity until September. Two
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Speaker 3: of them have not produced electricity since March at nineteen
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Speaker 3: seventy nine. Yeah, I think that what they're telling us
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Speaker 3: is probably true. Is it all of the truth? I
20:32
Speaker 3: would never think that that was the case.
20:34
Speaker 2: What do you think is happening to the people that
20:36
Speaker 2: lived in the area? And I know you mentioned the
20:39
Speaker 2: elevated thyroid cancer rates? Can you kind of explain that
20:42
Speaker 2: absolute concept a little further so?
20:44
Speaker 3: And there's even the physician at Hershey Medcenter that is
20:47
Speaker 3: specifically studying this, but he's got inclusion and exclusion criteria
20:52
Speaker 3: that I don't. I've been excluded from that because my
20:56
Speaker 3: own I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in all August
21:00
Speaker 3: of twenty ten, so that was obviously thirty one years
21:05
Speaker 3: after TMI melted down or almost melted down. Listen to me.
21:08
Speaker 3: So when I first was being treated for that, there
21:13
Speaker 3: is a history of cancer in my family. My dad
21:15
Speaker 3: died of liver cancer. Remember I said he owned a
21:17
Speaker 3: car shop. Well, he did a really stupid thing. OSHA
21:21
Speaker 3: wasn't a big thing then, and so he didn't have
21:24
Speaker 3: the MSDS sheets on carbon tutrichloid, which was the parts
21:28
Speaker 3: cleaner they used, and a lot of even today using
21:31
Speaker 3: a lot of shops. Carbon tet is the parch cleaner.
21:33
Speaker 3: So they used to have safety clean had these big
21:35
Speaker 3: drums with a faucet on it. So if you took
21:38
Speaker 3: a part out of a car and you needed to
21:39
Speaker 3: clean all the oil and the grease off of it,
21:41
Speaker 3: you could put it under this running spigot of this
21:44
Speaker 3: carbon tet. Well, when it's airborne, it causes lung cancer.
21:48
Speaker 3: That was shown in labrats in the eighties. But my
21:51
Speaker 3: dad had big hands and he would cut his hands
21:54
Speaker 3: when he was working on the engine to stick his
21:55
Speaker 3: hand directly under that because it stopped the bleeding roll. Well, well,
21:58
Speaker 3: he may as well been injecting it into his body.
22:00
Speaker 3: So in nineteen eighty seven, he was diagnosed with liver
22:03
Speaker 3: cancer because your liver detoxes your body from any chemicals
22:06
Speaker 3: that are in it. So his liver basically at that
22:09
Speaker 3: point said I can't do this anymore. You need to
22:12
Speaker 3: stop putting this stuff in. And so I don't know
22:15
Speaker 3: it was it the combination of his exposure, his occupational
22:19
Speaker 3: exposure and TMI. I don't know, but when I was
22:24
Speaker 3: diagnosed then of oh, by the way, he passed away
22:29
Speaker 3: twenty one months after his diagnosis or twenty two months,
22:31
Speaker 3: I think it was. So he lived a whole ten
22:33
Speaker 3: months longer than people usually do after a diagnosis of
22:37
Speaker 3: liver cancer. It's pretty nasty interesting speaking of political kinds
22:40
Speaker 3: of things too. At the same time that he was
22:42
Speaker 3: out at Presbyterian Hospital in Pittsburgh twice to be a
22:46
Speaker 3: libert transplant candidate. At the same time, the governor at
22:49
Speaker 3: that time was being considered, who was about the same
22:52
Speaker 3: age as my dad at the time, was being considered
22:55
Speaker 3: for a double lung and liver transplant surgery. The governor
23:00
Speaker 3: got the transplant. My dad, because he was just a
23:03
Speaker 3: lowly mechanic with a cancer diagnosis, didn't get the liver transplant.
23:08
Speaker 3: So not making any judgment calls on that. I'm just saying,
23:11
Speaker 3: are things political? Maybe? Fast forward then to two thousand
23:16
Speaker 3: and nine. Actually I went to my obgyn for my
23:21
Speaker 3: annual exam and you always get a physical as part
23:25
Speaker 3: of that exam, and my gynecologist was palpating my thyroid
23:30
Speaker 3: and he said, you know, your thyroid gland feels enlarged.
23:32
Speaker 3: You should go see an endocrinologist, which is the medical
23:36
Speaker 3: professional that specializes in antocrine which your thyroid is an
23:40
Speaker 3: endocrine gland. So I went to see an undochronologist and
23:42
Speaker 3: he said, yeah, you've got some swelling there. We really
23:46
Speaker 3: need to do an ultrasound to find out what's going on. Oh,
23:49
Speaker 3: by the way, in two thousand and nine, I said, oh,
23:52
Speaker 3: it's just a thyroid gland. What's a thyroid gland? Forget it?
23:55
Speaker 3: So I didn't do nothing about it for two that
23:57
Speaker 3: for a year. So next year went back to the
24:00
Speaker 3: same guy of colleges and he said, your thyroid's still enlarged.
24:03
Speaker 3: Did you ever get that checked out? Because he checked
24:05
Speaker 3: his notes and said that he had told me that
24:07
Speaker 3: in May of two thousand and nine. I said, no,
24:09
Speaker 3: I didn't. I probably should do that hunh. So that's
24:13
Speaker 3: when I saw the other endocrinologist and he said that
24:16
Speaker 3: I had this mass and I should get it assessed,
24:19
Speaker 3: so I didn't ultrasound. The ultrasounds showed that I had
24:21
Speaker 3: masses on both sides of one centimeter and one point
24:24
Speaker 3: two centimeters. Because your thyroid is a butterfly shaped giam,
24:28
Speaker 3: so it has two larger lobes.
24:31
Speaker 4: Sometimes if you're lucky and you only have a mass
24:33
Speaker 4: on one side, they just take half out. So what
24:36
Speaker 4: I was going through all of that evaluation and treatment
24:39
Speaker 4: and eventually this scar is my thyroid ectomy scar. So
24:43
Speaker 4: that was done in August of twenty ten, and because
24:47
Speaker 4: I wanted to get a second opinion, I actually went
24:50
Speaker 4: to Johns Hopkins Hospital, which you know, world renowned hospital,
24:54
Speaker 4: and they said, yeah, we agree with your Harrisburg based
24:56
Speaker 4: under chronologist looking at my pathology reports. I'd had to
24:59
Speaker 4: find needle biopsy of both lobes, which is a very
25:02
Speaker 4: interesting experience just having the biopsy. If you don't like needles,
25:06
Speaker 4: you really are not going to like needles in your neck.
25:08
Speaker 3: I had four on each side. That was a very
25:11
Speaker 3: interesting test. So the endocrinologist that I saw, doctor Reinio, Joshi,
25:16
Speaker 3: who is and who is with UPMC Pinnacle Harrisburg, a
25:20
Speaker 3: head of endocrinology. She said, you know, as an endocrinologist,
25:23
Speaker 3: I have seen a very high rate of thyroid cancer
25:27
Speaker 3: in this area compared to my colleagues across the country
25:30
Speaker 3: and what they're reporting. So I started to do a
25:33
Speaker 3: little research and I found out that the CDC reported
25:38
Speaker 3: and this these are actually twenty fourteen examples. This is
25:42
Speaker 3: what's called the SEER rate, and the SEER rate is
25:45
Speaker 3: actually the surveillance of ademiology and end results. That's what
25:50
Speaker 3: SEER stands for. So they look at incidents of disease
25:53
Speaker 3: across the country. You'll notice that PA is a red state.
25:57
Speaker 3: And in this case, that doesn't mean Democrat or recover
26:00
Speaker 3: look in, it means that's the higher incidence rates. So
26:04
Speaker 3: New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Pennsylvania New Jersey on the
26:10
Speaker 3: East coast all have red rates. Pennsylvania had in twenty
26:14
Speaker 3: fourteen the unenviable position of being number one in thyroid
26:19
Speaker 3: cancer incidents in the country. So when I dug a
26:24
Speaker 3: little deeper in twenty fourteen, because September is thyroid cancer
26:28
Speaker 3: awareness months, So in September I try to make a
26:30
Speaker 3: little display for my students because women are three to
26:34
Speaker 3: four times more likely to be diagnosed with thyroid cancer
26:37
Speaker 3: at than men because it is a hormone based disease.
26:40
Speaker 3: So I discovered that we had that high rate. But
26:42
Speaker 3: when you look at the incidents geographically, it used to
26:47
Speaker 3: be I think in south central Pennsylvania. Now it's actually
26:50
Speaker 3: the higher rates are in western Pennsylvania around Pittsburgh. Because
26:54
Speaker 3: you think about the steel industry in Pennsylvania. The smelting
26:58
Speaker 3: of ore iron ore into steel releases radiation into the air,
27:03
Speaker 3: and Pittsburgh had a lot of steel industry going on,
27:06
Speaker 3: so they still have a hotbed, even though the steel
27:09
Speaker 3: industry is pretty much shut down in Pittsburgh now and
27:11
Speaker 3: they've repurposed those buildings. If you drive along I think
27:15
Speaker 3: it's the Yakagany River where there's quite a few former
27:19
Speaker 3: steel processing buildings. I think I would be a little
27:22
Speaker 3: nervous if I was renting an apartment in one of
27:25
Speaker 3: those renovated buildings because that radiation, again is still residual
27:30
Speaker 3: in the steel girders of the building and the concrete
27:32
Speaker 3: of the building. I just don't think it's very smart
27:35
Speaker 3: use of the residual landscape there. When I looked at
27:39
Speaker 3: the seer rates recently, it looks as though Massachusetts is
27:43
Speaker 3: now number one, but we're still number three, so we
27:46
Speaker 3: still are high in the rate of thyroid cancer. And
27:48
Speaker 3: I think that that's something that everybody that lives in
27:51
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania should be doing a neck check. So if you
27:54
Speaker 3: don't know how to do that, you put your fingers
27:57
Speaker 3: on either side of your at it just below your atoms,
27:59
Speaker 3: apple on either side, and you swallow. And if you
28:03
Speaker 3: feel like there's a lump that makes your fingers kind
28:06
Speaker 3: of come out a little bit, even if it's slightly
28:08
Speaker 3: probably a nodule. The interesting thing about thyroid cancer is
28:11
Speaker 3: that fifty percent of us in this country have a
28:14
Speaker 3: nodule in our thyroid gland, but only five percent of
28:19
Speaker 3: those are cancerous or pathological. Let's say pathological. There are
28:23
Speaker 3: four kinds of thyroid cancer. The one that I was
28:26
Speaker 3: diagnosed with was papillary thyroid cancer, and it's the easiest
28:30
Speaker 3: one to cure. So I basically had thyroidectomy eight weeks later.
28:37
Speaker 3: For two weeks, I had to go off of my
28:38
Speaker 3: thyroid medication. And that's like pulling your spark plugs out,
28:42
Speaker 3: like I had new energy. But the reason for that
28:46
Speaker 3: was because they were going to do a radioactive iodine treatment.
28:49
Speaker 3: That was my chemo, if you will, my radiation treatment,
28:53
Speaker 3: and then they do a total body scan and that
28:55
Speaker 3: radioactive iodine. If there's any thyroid cells left in your body,
28:59
Speaker 3: they'll pick up the iodine that's in the radioactive idem
29:01
Speaker 3: and it shows up on a body scan. Now, the
29:03
Speaker 3: weird thing about thyroid cells, You're like, well, why didn't
29:06
Speaker 3: they just scan your thyroid Well, thyroid cells can actually
29:09
Speaker 3: migrate to anywhere in your body. There have been people
29:11
Speaker 3: who've had thyroid cells show up in their big toe.
29:14
Speaker 3: So it makes sense that when you're going through any
29:17
Speaker 3: kind of treatment for thyroid cancer, they have to check
29:19
Speaker 3: out your whole body.
29:21
Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, do you think
29:26
Speaker 2: that there was more radiation release than they're talking about,
29:30
Speaker 2: or what is your theory on just you know, how
29:33
Speaker 2: it all went down and what that has to do
29:36
Speaker 2: with these elevated rates. Is was it something that had
29:39
Speaker 2: to do with TMI or is that culmination of TMI
29:43
Speaker 2: and the steel or do you think it's for people
29:45
Speaker 2: in this area pretty directly related to that incident.
29:49
Speaker 3: I would say that there is building evidence that, you know,
29:55
Speaker 3: as more and more people are coming forward and just
29:57
Speaker 3: like doctor Joshi's saying, hey, I'm seeing this high rate
30:00
Speaker 3: of thiray cancer in this area disproportionately, so you can't
30:04
Speaker 3: deny that. My opinion is that I think there's something there,
30:10
Speaker 3: whether it's now, if every third person in south central
30:13
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania in the last you know, forty years was coming
30:17
Speaker 3: forth with thyroy cancer, that'd be pretty much a smoking
30:19
Speaker 3: gun in my opinion. But I think there's still enough
30:23
Speaker 3: evidence to suggest that there was enough radiation released that
30:29
Speaker 3: day from TMI that probably had an impact. You know,
30:33
Speaker 3: you're hearing that more and more of the newer phones
30:36
Speaker 3: are releasing more radiation from the phone, so we should,
30:40
Speaker 3: especially if you use your cell phone a lot, use
30:42
Speaker 3: it on speaker mode. Don't hold it up against your head.
30:44
Speaker 3: You do not want that radiation getting close to your brain.
30:47
Speaker 3: I lost an uncle to brain cancer. You do not
30:50
Speaker 3: want that experience. So whatever we can do, you know,
30:54
Speaker 3: putting a shield, a radiation shield over the front of
30:56
Speaker 3: your PC screen because that emits radiation. Spending as little
31:00
Speaker 3: time in your cars you can to our cars emit radiation.
31:03
Speaker 3: Whenever you go to the dentist. And this is also
31:06
Speaker 3: I think contributing, but this is a nationwide thing. When
31:08
Speaker 3: you go to the dentist in every six months or
31:10
Speaker 3: a year or whatever it is, you're supposed to get
31:12
Speaker 3: a dental x ray. The dental x ray technician is
31:15
Speaker 3: supposed to do not only give you the lead cape,
31:17
Speaker 3: but they're supposed to give you a thyroid guard to
31:20
Speaker 3: protect your thyroid gland. They don't unless you ask for it.
31:24
Speaker 3: It is stupid things that we're doing as a society
31:27
Speaker 3: that just we don't know what we're talking about with
31:30
Speaker 3: protecting our thyroid glands. So was it TMI or is
31:34
Speaker 3: it TMI and all of these other things. I don't know.
31:39
Speaker 3: I just know that it's important that once you do
31:42
Speaker 3: know that you take action to protect yourself. That's really
31:46
Speaker 3: the I think. What is the takeaway from all this?
31:50
Speaker 2: You have anything else I'll have to say about as
31:52
Speaker 2: the insid int or life.
31:54
Speaker 3: Well, definitely the most important thing I think is to
31:58
Speaker 3: take care of yourself, you know, and watching My master's
32:02
Speaker 3: degree is in health education, and one of the things
32:04
Speaker 3: we talk about in that program was how do you
32:08
Speaker 3: change health behavior? And I've seen all kinds as an
32:12
Speaker 3: occupational therapist. I've seen all kinds of approaches, from the
32:16
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick my head in the sand and whatever
32:18
Speaker 3: happens to me, I don't care, or I'm not gonna
32:21
Speaker 3: eat well, I'm gonna go to McDonald's, you know, ten
32:24
Speaker 3: times a month, and whatever happens to me happens to me.
32:26
Speaker 3: That's fine, you know, if that's how you choose to
32:29
Speaker 3: live your life. But it also has an impact on
32:32
Speaker 3: the rest of us because our insurance rates go up.
32:35
Speaker 3: You know, you're more likely to have a heart attack
32:37
Speaker 3: behind the wheel of the car, and then you're gonna
32:39
Speaker 3: take a couple other people out with you. So I
32:42
Speaker 3: really think for public health reasons, we need to be
32:45
Speaker 3: doing all of these things, permittive health things. You know,
32:49
Speaker 3: your health insurance, if you have health insurance, pays for
32:53
Speaker 3: prementative physical once a year, for God's sake, do it
32:57
Speaker 3: or listen to your doctor. I was stupid in two
32:59
Speaker 3: thousand nine and didn't listen. Had I listened to him
33:03
Speaker 3: and gone and had that checked. Because my nodules were
33:07
Speaker 3: greater than a centimeter, I had to lose my whole thyroid.
33:10
Speaker 3: So for the rest of my life I have to
33:13
Speaker 3: manage with synthroid, which is a synthetic thyroid hormone replacement.
33:18
Speaker 3: I have to do that for the rest of my
33:20
Speaker 3: life because I can't because I don't have a thyroid.
33:22
Speaker 3: I can't produce that hormone anymore. And for nine years
33:25
Speaker 3: I was pretty good at it, and then in May
33:28
Speaker 3: my butt was dragging. I have to take care of
33:31
Speaker 3: myself because now instead of my thyroid level, my TSH
33:35
Speaker 3: level being below one point zero, which is what's the
33:38
Speaker 3: recommendation for someone who's status post popular thyroid cancer survivor.
33:43
Speaker 3: I was pretty good at keeping it around point five.
33:45
Speaker 3: Well May first it was actually five point oh three,
33:48
Speaker 3: which explains why my butt was draggon and I was
33:51
Speaker 3: having to take a nap at five o'clock in the evening.
33:53
Speaker 3: Now I'm waiting now trying to get it back in order.
33:56
Speaker 3: I just got married in November for the second time,
33:58
Speaker 3: so having just raised my son, he's twenty five, I
34:02
Speaker 3: now have five step children, the youngest of which is eleven,
34:05
Speaker 3: and he spends weekends with us. I got to keep
34:07
Speaker 3: up with an eleven year old boy. If I don't
34:09
Speaker 3: have energy to do that, or to live my life,
34:11
Speaker 3: or to run my errands, or if I'm falling asleep
34:14
Speaker 3: behind the wheel, I'm going to be a threat to
34:16
Speaker 3: everybody else. So there's all kinds of good reasons why
34:20
Speaker 3: we want to take care of ourselves and live the
34:22
Speaker 3: healthiest life we can live and be informed. Sticking your
34:25
Speaker 3: head in the sand doesn't serve anybody.
34:28
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I actually interviewed
34:31
Speaker 1: that woman six years ago, in twenty nineteen, and nothing's changed.
34:35
Speaker 1: No government has not admitted to any of the things
34:40
Speaker 1: that she alleged that they were guilty of. They've never
34:43
Speaker 1: talked about the long term effects that the Three Mile
34:45
Speaker 1: Island incident has had on the surrounding communities. They've never
34:49
Speaker 1: studied it, they've never researched it. There have been no disclosures,
34:52
Speaker 1: and the individuals that were affected by the Three Mile
34:55
Speaker 1: Island incident are still clamoring for justice. I can't even
34:59
Speaker 1: begin to imagine how many men, how many women, how
35:03
Speaker 1: many children were affected by the fallout from the Three
35:07
Speaker 1: Mile Island incident, and it's never really been reported on.
35:11
Speaker 1: I mean, apparently according to her, and from all the
35:13
Speaker 1: research that I've done online surrounding this entire thing, there
35:16
Speaker 1: are so many individuals in local communities surrounding that old
35:20
Speaker 1: plant that have suffered adverse effects that are clearly linked
35:24
Speaker 1: to levels of radiation that are present in the environment,
35:27
Speaker 1: and yet nobody's been compensated. This has not been officially acknowledged,
35:32
Speaker 1: And who knows how many people have died and how
35:35
Speaker 1: many of those deaths could go back could be connected
35:38
Speaker 1: in retrospect to the radiation levels present in the environment
35:42
Speaker 1: from Three Mile Island. I mean, it's just crazy. This
35:46
Speaker 1: whole episode, this interview was something that I had forgotten about,
35:49
Speaker 1: that I had recorded years ago, that people hadn't really
35:52
Speaker 1: seen because it was posted on a different channel of mine.
35:55
Speaker 1: But when I was recording my episode about Karen Silkwood
35:58
Speaker 1: and Dorothy Lagaretta, my memory was jogged and I remember it.
36:01
Speaker 1: I've actually spoken within nuclear whistleblower and nothing happened in
36:05
Speaker 1: her case. It just goes to show the government is
36:08
Speaker 1: willing to go to extreme lengths to cover up their
36:11
Speaker 1: dirty trails. They're willing to lie, They're willing to kill,
36:15
Speaker 1: They're willing to cover up and steal and slander and
36:20
Speaker 1: nuke people off of the Internet and off of social
36:23
Speaker 1: media because some of these things are so egregious and
36:26
Speaker 1: disturbing that they've done. That they really do not want
36:30
Speaker 1: people discovering these topics, and they obviously also don't want
36:33
Speaker 1: to pay people out for the things that they themselves
36:36
Speaker 1: did to them. I mean, if you don't believe me,
36:38
Speaker 1: go watch that video about Karen Silkwood and Dorothy Leagaretta,
36:41
Speaker 1: the nuclear whistleblower murders, and you will see that this
36:44
Speaker 1: was a pattern through the seventies, eighties, nineties of the
36:48
Speaker 1: government not only allegedly killing people that were going to
36:52
Speaker 1: talk about their dirty secrets, but also covering up the
36:55
Speaker 1: things that they had done. They are patterns of radiation
36:58
Speaker 1: experiments that they had carried out on humans, the stealing
37:01
Speaker 1: of human bodies, the digging up of human bodies from
37:04
Speaker 1: cemeteries against the wishes of family members, the experiments done
37:08
Speaker 1: on children, the refusal to pay out victims of nuclear
37:11
Speaker 1: radiation that the government had caused themselves. I mean, it
37:15
Speaker 1: is a long and disturbing and deep and dark rabbit hole.
37:18
Speaker 1: But hopefully one day she can receive justice. Anyways, y'all,
37:22
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening today. I know that
37:25
Speaker 1: this was a weird video that isn't like the normal
37:28
Speaker 1: videos that I post, but this was an important one
37:31
Speaker 1: and I really hope that this reaches the right people.
37:33
Speaker 1: And it really pisses some individuals off because there are
37:36
Speaker 1: these hidden truths and these hidden secrets in American society
37:40
Speaker 1: that not only the government doesn't want to acknowledge or
37:42
Speaker 1: talk about, but that people also don't want to bring
37:44
Speaker 1: up or talk about because they can be sensitive, they
37:47
Speaker 1: can be disturbing, they can be distressing, and in my opinion,
37:49
Speaker 1: people would rather live in that little bubble where the
37:52
Speaker 1: government doesn't lie, where they have the best interests of
37:55
Speaker 1: the people in their minds and that nothing bad could
37:57
Speaker 1: ever happen, or that nothing bad ever had has happened.
38:00
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38:04
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