Latest / Best of Business / Liam Dann: NZ Herald business editor at large on the economic impacts of Donald Trump's presidency
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- 0:16Speaker 2: Now, Donald Trump has promised Americans he's going to save
- 0:19Speaker 2: the economy and deal with the cost of living. Liam
- 0:21Speaker 2: dan is the Herald's Business editor at large and with
- 0:23Speaker 2: US Now, Hey, Liam, so is he just going to
- 0:25Speaker 2: do it through tax cuts and tariffs?
- 0:27Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it sounds like that's the formula. People are
- 0:31Speaker 3: scratching the head of a bit as to how it
- 0:32Speaker 3: adds up because he's promised one account. One count I
- 0:37Speaker 3: saw was twelve different kinds of tax cut on the
- 0:41Speaker 3: campaign trail, which talied up to if he did them
- 0:44Speaker 3: all something like three trillion dollars out of the US
- 0:49Speaker 3: revenue government revenue over the next ten years. Three trillion
- 0:52Speaker 3: dollar US dollars is quite a lot, and that of
- 0:54Speaker 3: course means you need to well you either need to
- 0:58Speaker 3: fund it from somewhere, you need to borrow a lot more,
- 1:00Speaker 3: which is why bonds.
- 1:01Speaker 2: But he's also promising to pay down debt.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Yeah. See that. There was a British prime minister who
- 1:07Speaker 3: tried tried to say all that stuff and it didn't work.
- 1:09Speaker 3: Trust was sunk by the bond markets because the numbers
- 1:14Speaker 3: didn't add up, and the bond markets, as they say,
- 1:16Speaker 3: are the most powerful thing in the universe or in
- 1:18Speaker 3: the known world. Look. Yeah, so it's going to be
- 1:23Speaker 3: very interesting. And I guess what the issue is how
- 1:25Speaker 3: much he decides to worry about everything he said on
- 1:28Speaker 3: the campaign trail. There's going to be some more tariffs,
- 1:30Speaker 3: and there's going to be some tax cuts of some sort,
- 1:33Speaker 3: so probably corporate, and maybe that will stimulate the economy
- 1:37Speaker 3: all the rest inside America, putting aside the tariffs.
- 1:40Speaker 2: I mean, also, his timing is great, right, so he
- 1:42Speaker 2: is taking over presumably as the American economy starts to
- 1:45Speaker 2: pick up, as we start to get inflation under control,
- 1:48Speaker 2: so within a matter of months people will be feeling
- 1:50Speaker 2: better anyway.
- 1:51Speaker 3: Yeah, well, tariffs would be a one off, one off bump.
- 1:54Speaker 3: They are inflaate, they would be inflationary.
- 1:56Speaker 2: I mean, he's not going to go ahead with the
- 1:58Speaker 2: tariff tariffs, so lam.
- 1:59Speaker 3: Well, the sixty percent is hard to imagine. You know,
- 2:03Speaker 3: you'd think he would have to do something to sort
- 2:07Speaker 3: of having having talked about them so much. But I mean,
- 2:10Speaker 3: I think the numbers are details, right, He's not a
- 2:12Speaker 3: details guy, so I think as long as he makes
- 2:15Speaker 3: some move there, you know. But yeah, so look, does
- 2:19Speaker 3: it does it fix the economy? He's certainly in the
- 2:21Speaker 3: right place in the cycle. So it wasn't a great
- 2:24Speaker 3: place for Joe Biden because well, you know, for the Democrats,
- 2:29Speaker 3: because inflation is back in the box technically, but it
- 2:33Speaker 3: doesn't feel like it to people for a while. Yeah,
- 2:35Speaker 3: because you know, you can tell people that the economy
- 2:37Speaker 3: is great, and I think that was part of the
- 2:39Speaker 3: problem that you know, people were being told that the
- 2:40Speaker 3: US economy was great and they didn't feel like it
- 2:42Speaker 3: was great, and so it just played into that whole
- 2:45Speaker 3: narrative of being told by the establishment that they should
- 2:48Speaker 3: stop complaining.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. It's going to be an interesting one, as
- 2:51Speaker 2: you were just saying to me off there, and we
- 2:52Speaker 2: have to wait until he's an office to really see
- 2:55Speaker 2: what it does.
- 2:56Speaker 3: A lot of speculation over the next few weeks and months,
- 2:58Speaker 3: and of course we could go around in circles in
- 3:00Speaker 3: New Zealand worrying about tariffs and what may or may
- 3:03Speaker 3: not happen for wine growers and so on. But you know,
- 3:07Speaker 3: and and the impact on China. But look at the moment,
- 3:11Speaker 3: markets are very happy, and they're happy because there was
- 3:13Speaker 3: a clear, clean result, and also they can wipe tax
- 3:18Speaker 3: hikes off the table and more regulation off the table,
- 3:20Speaker 3: So your Kiwi savers up and you probably don't have
- 3:23Speaker 3: to worry about it till at least January twenty or
- 3:25Speaker 3: whenever the inauguration is. So that's your consolation life. You
- 3:29Speaker 3: don't like Trump, just and enjoy the market.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Run Yeah to take the money, Liam, Thank you very much,
- 3:33Speaker 2: appreciate it. Liam Down, the Herald's Business editor at large.
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