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Football at Four: Taking an Updated Look at the Eagles Offensive and Defensive Issues · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is football at four.
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  Speaker 2: To watch Chicago go in there and physically offensively do
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  Speaker 2: what they did to Philadelphia's defense, it felt like a
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  Speaker 2: defense that knows the offense right now is not good
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  Speaker 2: and they were just holding on. I have not seen
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  Speaker 2: anybody push around the Philadelphia Eagles defense the way that
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  Speaker 2: Chicago did. And so you're watching this defense almost like
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  Speaker 2: break that there's nothing left for us to do. We've
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  Speaker 2: tried to keep us in games as long as we can't.
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  Speaker 3: That was Dad Orlowski talking about the defense. Is their
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  Speaker 3: concerns with the defense? Is it a one time issue?
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  Speaker 3: And he was talking about it like, hey, we're doing
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  Speaker 3: everything we can, but you're not holding up your end
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  Speaker 3: of the bargain. Offense. We're gonna get into that and more.
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  Speaker 3: Is their concerns with the defense. So much about the
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  Speaker 3: offense has been discussed, but let's talk about the defense.
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  Speaker 3: Adam Kaplan from the Inside the Birds podcast, which you
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  Speaker 3: can get on all podcasting platforms, and you know, he
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  Speaker 3: talked about how physically beat up the Eagles got by
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  Speaker 3: that Bears team. Is there a concern with this defense
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  Speaker 3: or is it a one time thing?
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  Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan, No, that's.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I put in my notes. It's a great
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  Speaker 4: question because it's the reality of it. This defensive performance
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  Speaker 4: might came out of nowhere. The defense is playing such
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  Speaker 4: a high level for a while now, and even better
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  Speaker 4: with Jalen Phillips. So then, Mike, they got manhandled. We
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  Speaker 4: talked about this, Jeff Motion and I talked about our
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  Speaker 4: postgame show now on did they get moved a lot,
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  Speaker 4: the lack of discipline up front? They got moved off
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  Speaker 4: the ball. It was it was crazy to see them
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  Speaker 4: being powered by the Bears offensive line. I know that
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  Speaker 4: the Bears have a brand new interior. They're off to
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  Speaker 4: the f line. Two guys are required by trade and
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  Speaker 4: Drew Dolman was SUDN free agency. But they got manhandled.
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  Speaker 4: This like doesn't happen. It's I believe on your question,
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  Speaker 4: and I wanted to address this. We won't truly know
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  Speaker 4: until we see what they look like against the Chargers
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  Speaker 4: Monday night. I expct them to be fired up. I
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  Speaker 4: strongly believe based on the coaching, which is simpically outstanding.
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  Speaker 4: I expect them to come out really well. And we'll
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  Speaker 4: talk more about this on Friday, Mike. But I think
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  Speaker 4: it's a one time thing based on what I know
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  Speaker 4: about how they're coached. Hunhart's a phenomenal defensive line coach,
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  Speaker 4: was once a defensive coordinator for Seattle coach with Vic
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  Speaker 4: and with the Bears. Vic, you know how great of
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  Speaker 4: a coach he is and how great their staff is.
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  Speaker 4: Their front seven was by far the worst that they've played,
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  Speaker 4: Mike since they've been here. I mean it's been a
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  Speaker 4: it was awful in two years that Vick has been
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  Speaker 4: here with his staff. So I I just I don't
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  Speaker 4: I know Danielllafki very well. I just couldn't disagree more.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like mentally, oh well, you know, we're sick
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  Speaker 4: and tired of of having to carry the load here,
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  Speaker 4: so we're just gonna quit. No, that didn't happen. So
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  Speaker 4: it's just but I do say this though, and maybe
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  Speaker 4: Damn meant this. The linebackers and some of the assignments
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  Speaker 4: on the on the front, on the front, Mike, they
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  Speaker 4: did some things they normally wouldn't do. They they didn't
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  Speaker 4: play their gaps correctly. I wouldn't say there was hero ball,
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  Speaker 4: but they they had a lack of discipline in that game.
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  Speaker 4: The tape showed it. I mean, I'm it's telling you.
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  Speaker 4: I know that's the fact, and that's that is a concern.
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  Speaker 4: And we've now we Mike, we've not seen that before
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  Speaker 4: from this group.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know they have allowed three hundred and forty
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  Speaker 3: eight yards through the air to the Cowboys, then two
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  Speaker 3: hundred and eighty one yards on the ground to Chicago.
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  Speaker 3: So they're getting beat in both aspects. Eight hundred and
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  Speaker 3: ninety eight yards allowed over the.
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  Speaker 1: Last two games.
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  Speaker 3: It's the second most it's allowed in any two games
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  Speaker 3: in the Sirianni era.
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  Speaker 1: So they're getting beat by land ed by Sea.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like, well, in the Dallas game, let's not
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  Speaker 4: forget Dallas, Dallas's behind, they had to throw. Yes, they
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  Speaker 4: egos got him. They got hit, They got hit hard
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  Speaker 4: and opposite Jackson got hurt in that game. We have
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  Speaker 4: we you know, we know that. So yeah they got it.
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  Speaker 4: Look they got handled there and Caleb Wayants, by the way,
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  Speaker 4: did that was probably the worst game. I know. The
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  Speaker 4: win was bad. He had throw the ball well, Herston
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  Speaker 4: throw the ball well. The passing games, as I told
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  Speaker 4: you Friday, might be a problem. It was or whenever
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  Speaker 4: we did our football four last week is on Wednesday
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  Speaker 4: said the website gonna be bad. It was, But Mike,
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  Speaker 4: as we move forward here, it's just a one game situition.
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  Speaker 4: There's no reason to think based only the coach and
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  Speaker 4: based on the effort or the guy the players usually
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  Speaker 4: part of this game, that this is going to be
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  Speaker 4: something we were really concerned about that. There's no reason
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  Speaker 4: I think that because it's not happened before. But it's
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  Speaker 4: certainly on my radar to keep an eye on.
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  Speaker 1: So the defense a one time issue.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, they got the Chargers coming up, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: justin Herbert with that broken hand, We'll see what his
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  Speaker 3: status looks like when Adam's back on Friday show. So
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  Speaker 3: everyone's talking about the defense. What can we expect with
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  Speaker 3: this offense going forward? What is missing offensively?
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  Speaker 1: Everything?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Well all right, I'm going to start for the
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  Speaker 4: one thing we forgot to talk about this and the
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  Speaker 4: shambled on us the small thing cut it's it's big
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  Speaker 4: with ten Bigsby, I don't understand what like you're having
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  Speaker 4: trouble moving the football, particularly running it. No one suggested
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  Speaker 4: who has a brain that he should be taking over
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  Speaker 4: the starting job. But why would you not give Bigsby
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  Speaker 4: a little bit more of a role. I just don't
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  Speaker 4: understand it. I don't understand you can't give him fifty
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  Speaker 4: eight carries when you can't run the football. That to
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  Speaker 4: me is bad coaching. I mean, Mike Barkley was okay
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  Speaker 4: in this game, over four yards of carries, better than
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  Speaker 4: he has been for most of the season. But they
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  Speaker 4: need to use him as a change of Bigsby is
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  Speaker 4: such a contrast and styled. I just I was flabbergasses, like,
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  Speaker 4: what are you guys doing here? You can't you have
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  Speaker 4: trouble scoring, it's windy, you can't throw it. Do better, man.
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  Speaker 4: That's just that's the stuff that Patula and Syrianic control.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's inexcusable to me that he didn't get more work.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he had nine carries in that game against
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  Speaker 3: the Giants, and really since then you would think that maybe, look,
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  Speaker 3: he added a little spark to this run game at
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  Speaker 3: over one hundreds they have really I don't think he
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  Speaker 3: has nine carries total since that game.
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  Speaker 4: Ridiculous, Mike, that's bad coaching to me. That that that again,
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  Speaker 4: control the controllables, they have control over that. That everyone
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  Speaker 4: who's an Eagles fan knows this Bixby's got some choice,
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  Speaker 4: he gives them. Why do they make the trade then?
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  Speaker 4: And by the way, he's signing me. And we told
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  Speaker 4: you it was nonsense that some of the reports were
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  Speaker 4: put out that they they brought him into be a
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  Speaker 4: kickoff turner was complete nonsense. That would be part of it.
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  Speaker 4: They wanted him because AJ Dillon. That turned out to
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  Speaker 4: be correct. The AJ Dillon was not good enough. He
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  Speaker 4: wasn't consistent enough. And now he's been benched and AJ
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  Speaker 4: Dillon's not good enough kickoff returner anyway. By the way,
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  Speaker 4: Dylan's on a one year deal. Bigsby has this year
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  Speaker 4: next year left so he could play. Man. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you got you gotta get something out of the guy,
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  Speaker 4: and I don't. This is just bad. This is just
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  Speaker 4: not good coaching.
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  Speaker 1: What do we think about Adam kaplan football at four? Here?
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  Speaker 1: Getting hurts a little bit more comfortable.
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  Speaker 3: How can they get that possibly to get his confidence going?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I've already I've talked to you, Mike uh
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  Speaker 4: Ad nauseum. Really now, for two seasons, Kelimore didn't do
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  Speaker 4: a good job of this till late in the season.
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  Speaker 4: Get it hurts comfort early in games, get him comfortable
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  Speaker 4: with easy passes. Uh, that that's got to happen. But
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  Speaker 4: the other two things I'm gonna add here continue with
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  Speaker 4: the change up of hurts under center boy that did
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  Speaker 4: really well, more of tempo like that as well, and
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  Speaker 4: the design runs Listen, We'll never know for sure. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not gonna even expect like I don't know, nobody else knows.
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  Speaker 4: It hurts that he he doesn't want to like McNabb
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  Speaker 4: what I had heard back many obviously when he was
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  Speaker 4: an Eagle and the second half of his career with Eagles,
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  Speaker 4: that he didn't want to run as much. And plus hurts.
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  Speaker 4: I mean McNabb had been beat up with injury, teveral
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  Speaker 4: injuries over his career, so and he didn't want to
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  Speaker 4: run as much as what I was told back then.
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  Speaker 4: This is GOI mech obviously a couple of decades. But
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  Speaker 4: it hurts. Don't know, but man and he definitely adds
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  Speaker 4: something they seemed to only o. The gun run on
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  Speaker 4: a clear and it's worked, by the way, and there's
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  Speaker 4: gun runs on shotgun with empty SATs like on with
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  Speaker 4: empty That means why no one in the backfield. He's
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  Speaker 4: got red seed parting Mike it's actually really work pretty well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would like to see Adam.
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  Speaker 3: You know, let's say they go three and out and
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  Speaker 3: that happens every now and then, not the rate that
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  Speaker 3: they generally do. Hey, we went three and out last series.
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  Speaker 3: Let's let's we'll run a little tempo, let's run a
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  Speaker 3: little Harry up after. You know, they don't seem to
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  Speaker 3: have a little change of pace at all. They don't
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  Speaker 3: run the screen game at all. That's another way they
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  Speaker 3: can get creative and get guys touches.
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  Speaker 4: Another thing in my notes, Mike, when they've run it's
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  Speaker 4: actually not been too bad. I'm just this is like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we've we've shut our offense on around the league.
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  Speaker 4: When we talk to people on our show that people
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  Speaker 4: we talked to set it's a bad offense, it's a
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  Speaker 4: bad scheme. Well, again, this is something they control, Mike.
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  Speaker 4: They do very little that other teams do that it's
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  Speaker 4: just normal. And it's nothing to with Sean McVay and
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  Speaker 4: trying to be different that that's not what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about just staples of an NFL offense in
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  Speaker 4: the twentieth century. I just don't understand this, don't give
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  Speaker 4: me that Hurts can't handle it. That's nonsense. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: buying that, that the vanilla stuff anymore with oh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you can only do certain stuff with Hurts. There's certain
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  Speaker 4: things any NFL starting quarterback can do. Or by the way,
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  Speaker 4: you shouldn't be playing if you feel you can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: Is there, you know, Sirianni said.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody will be evaluated all the stuff, and then it's hey,
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  Speaker 3: you made the evaluations. Are there any changes? I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what they could change. Is there any change players?
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  Speaker 3: Something they could do, even something on a minor level
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  Speaker 3: that might unlock something here.
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  Speaker 4: Well, look, a coach from another team gave me something
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  Speaker 4: really interesting. He doesn't know, Sirianni, but he said, when
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  Speaker 4: coaches are struggling sometimes and I'm not saying Nick is
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  Speaker 4: doing this, to be clear, sometimes they actually they limit
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  Speaker 4: how much access from the coaches have to the quarterback,
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  Speaker 4: where maybe sometimes there are too many voices. We talked
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  Speaker 4: about this in twenty twenty Mike on Football four on
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  Speaker 4: an odd platform as well, that it was so Marty
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  Speaker 4: morning Wog believe or not. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 4: know this. Marty was a consult quarterback. Consult for Hurts.
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  Speaker 4: He was actually there. He was with the quarterbacks, but
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  Speaker 4: working a lot with Hurts in twenty twenty. All these
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  Speaker 4: guys that they have Rich Gangerell who I debate whether
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  Speaker 4: even Peterson wanted them too many cooks in the kitchen.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe he's got it's a great question, Mike. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: he's got a limit. Maybe he's got to just just
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  Speaker 4: limit this stuff and just come up with a couple
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  Speaker 4: of people involved and just get Hurts going here, Mike,
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  Speaker 4: they are eating for their game and a half up.
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  Speaker 4: I know Dallas has got momentum now. Those trades are
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  Speaker 4: working out for them, but they're healthy at offense, Mike,
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  Speaker 4: other than Lane Johnson. This is absolutely embarrassing. And as
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  Speaker 4: one quote from another team told me, he used to
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  Speaker 4: work for the Eagles too, said that Jeffrey Laurie must
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  Speaker 4: be embarrassed and upset about what he's seeing because he
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  Speaker 4: wants a world class offense. He's getting anti work class years.
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  Speaker 3: He's getting a good ac JFL football offense. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: a couple of quick notes, Darius Slay has been released
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  Speaker 3: by the Steelers. Any interest there or they do have
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  Speaker 3: a need it, Let me.
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  Speaker 4: Go inside, let me exclime. Explain. Okay, so here's what
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  Speaker 4: I'm told. He was benched, he didn't play last week.
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  Speaker 4: He's healthy. One source told me he didn't really fit
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  Speaker 4: their scheme. It's Mike Tomlins defensive scheme that they're running there.
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  Speaker 4: Mike doesn't run it, but someone else is running it
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  Speaker 4: for him. But it's just he didn't really fit. He
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  Speaker 4: doesn't move all that well. He's near the end. He's
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  Speaker 4: definitely lost a step now. He obviously knows that the
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  Speaker 4: system from Banjo obviously want a super Bowl with it.
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  Speaker 4: He's near the end Mic if he clears waivers now.
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  Speaker 4: One person said to me, it would not be surprising
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  Speaker 4: if he took the deal that Adam Feeling got to
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  Speaker 4: be released because he has to be released slated, then
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  Speaker 4: he has to take a pay cup. You know, he's
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  Speaker 4: making eleven million, which is pro rated, but to get released,
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  Speaker 4: typically they're going to ask you to take a pickup.
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  Speaker 4: We're doing you a favor. Well, we're going to release,
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  Speaker 4: then you got to take a pay cut. Yeah, that
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  Speaker 4: could actually make his contract more claimable. He subject to waivers.
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  Speaker 4: Every player who's cut putting bested veterans are subject to waivers.
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  Speaker 4: There for the trade dadline. So, Mike, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: Huh if you're the Eagles, Well, first of all, you'd
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  Speaker 4: rather you wouldn't want to claim him, you'd rather just
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  Speaker 4: bring him in and and sign him to your practice squad.
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  Speaker 4: Why is that? Why you don't have to feel you
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  Speaker 4: don't keep him when you're fifty three? And lets you know,
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  Speaker 4: they what he looks like that way, there's no monetarily
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  Speaker 4: gets only gets as a practice cud salary. But we're
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  Speaker 4: we're looking into it. But Mike, if I'm Howie, what
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  Speaker 4: is what is the harm? He's a good teammate. I
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  Speaker 4: know he turns thirty five in January. He's the oldest
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  Speaker 4: cornerback of the National Football League by far, But but
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  Speaker 4: what what do they have to loose at this point?
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  Speaker 4: Jackson's not good enough?
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  Speaker 1: We know that.
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  Speaker 4: What did they have to loose by bringing in and
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  Speaker 4: take a looking at taking a look at him?
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 3: Good inside stuff there By the way, it just announced
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  Speaker 3: December twentieth, Philadelphia, Washington. That will be a five o'clock kickoff.
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  Speaker 3: That is the Saturday game against the Commanders, a five
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  Speaker 3: pm kickoff. Adam kaplan everybody back on Friday. We'll get
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  Speaker 3: you ready for the Eagles and the Chargers.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Adam, you got it.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: There he is Adam Kaplan Football at four powered by
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